The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show - De'Aaron Fox

Episode Date: October 21, 2022

Kings guard De’Aaron Fox joins The Draymond Green Show to discuss adjusting to former Warriors assistant Mike Brown as his head coach, what it’s like playing with Domantas Sabonis, his reaction to the Tyrese Halliburton trade, the Kings playoff drought, if he regrets canceling his draft workout with the Suns, what Keegan Murray can bring to the team, personal goals for the season, and much more. #Herd Produced by: Jackson Safon #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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dot net in west virginia what's up everybody welcome back to the draymond green show our next our guest for this week uh is an exciting one an electrifying one um none other than well let me rewind fifth pick in the NBA draft in 2017 brother just got a nice contract not long ago i need a loan so i'm already putting my call in i know the calls really start coming in when the bag hit i need a loan I'm putting my ass in right now. A guy who I look at and thinks he will and should be a future All-Star, and I'm looking forward to seeing that happen, honor, to have our next guest, De Aaron Fox. What's up, my brother?

What's up, man? I appreciate you having me, dog. Absolutely. Just before we actually started filming this, you just mentioned your new coach, Mike Brown, who I had the pleasure of playing for, I. I think six years Mike Brown was here. And, you know, so I understand Mike Psyche. I understand how he coach.

But just for starters, how has that been adjusting to a new coach and in specifics, Mike Brown? Well, when you got on, I just told you, I'm like, these practices have been long. But this is something that I feel like we've just, that we've needed. Like I said this, I think at the end of last year, obviously knowing that we need a new coach, I'm like, we just need structure. Like we need somebody that's going to pay attention. That's going to be real attentive to every little thing. And he, something will be good.

He'll stop and he'll nitpick. And I'm like, that's something that we need it because you already know. You can have a terrible game. You could win. So it's like, what did we learn? And I think that's what he's brought to us, you know, from day one. It could be good, but it could always have been better. Absolutely.

No, that's absolutely incredible. You know, obviously we had Mike as an assistant. and coach, and you could still feel his imprint on things, like imprint on drills. The drills start to go long. Very detail-oriented. But Mike B could get a little long-winded, but I love Mike B. That's my God. But film can get long.

You got to tell Mike. We haven't had a day where film went the right amount of time. It's gone over. Every day of training camp is gone over. Gotta love it. Got to love it. But no, I agree with you. I think to have someone that's bringing that structure to you guys, like you all have a lot of young talent. You know, and like you're just now starting to tap into your talent, you know, bringing over Sabonis, who's still a fairly young dude, Kevin Herder, Davion Mitchell, the list goes on and on. You guys have a lot of young talent. And so I think adding that structure and especially what he's going to. to bring on the defensive end. I think, you know, Mike, Mike Brown is a defensive genius. I'd have the opportunity to pick his brain

and we toss ideas back and forth. So I'm actually happy for you and for y'all moving forward because I think it'll be a really good thing for y'all. Yeah, for sure. I mean, this is the most talented team I've had since I've been in the league, and it's not even close. But one of our problems has been, we've been terrible defensively. And, like, we know it, you know it, everybody knows it.

We've been horrible. So to bring in somebody like that is definitely going to help us and just push me personally to be a better defender. Like I know I can be it. Absolutely. And he knows I can be it. Absolutely. Now, that's incredible. At the deadline last year, you guys made a few trades, but obviously the big one being bringing in Sabonis. And I think, you know, that was a great value ad for you guys with just what he brings to the table on a nightly basis. I think it's incredible.

and like I said, still a fairly young guy. What did that trade, what did that message send to you as the franchise guard? And also what were y'all able to find, like chemistry amongst you, too, towards those last couple months of the season that y'all got to play together? Yeah, I mean, when the trade, when the trade happened, obviously everybody's talking about, you know, the me and Tyree's dynamic, you know, who's picking, blah, blah, and when the trade happened for one he told me. And I was like, yo, you lying.

Like, yo, they didn't trade you. And then woes tweeted like two minutes later. I'm like, wow, we really, we really did that. But obviously, seeing that, we got Domaz back, I'm like, every time we don't match up with bro, he's 20 and 20, 20 and 15, every time we played him. So I'm like, I'm excited to play with him. But for me, just playing with somebody and, hell, Steph could probably, Steph and Clay can attribute that to plan with you.

having a big that can pass the ball the way that y'all pass the ball is it opens up the world and i mean i was shooting like 38% from three since we got him so he's he's just helped expand my game tremendously and um having a big like that and then getting shooters around them i think is it makes our team so much better and it's absolutely it's fun it's fun playing with with guys that can pass a ball like that pass ball out of the high post pass it out of the low pose pass it out the top of the key he can grab a rebound and go like is ask staff or anybody man they they have fun playing with people like that absolutely no no doubt man definitely and i think uh you know i want to ask um a question also along the same lines of the trade uh what what message did did it send to you from the

organization uh that they decided to trade tyrese because i know there was you know once they drafted tyrese there was like this thing like oh are they planning for tyrese you to be their franchise point guard moving forward. Like, how does this work? And then a year into him being there or a year and a half or whatever it was, he gets traded. And in my opinion, I think that sends a clear-cut message.

Yeah, yeah. For me, it's like, man, for me it's like, yo, they believe in me. But two, it's like, my fuck, we just traded somebody who can be a franchise point guard either here or somewhere else. So you better get on your shit and you better start winning.

Like, so it's like, does it add pressure? Yeah, a little bit. But at the end of the day, I've been trying to, you know, get us into the playoffs for years. So it's a little added pressure ain't ever hurt nobody. Absolutely. And speaking of the playoffs, I know everybody make this big deal of like playoff drought. And obviously you guys having the longest playoff drought.

Question I want to ask you. Because I think, you know, I catch a lot of flack from people. I'm not a lot of flak. because flack wouldn't be the right word. But from time to time, I get people telling me, like, oh, man, you wouldn't be nothing if you weren't on the Warriors. Or, like, yes, success is predicated on the Warriors. And, you know, it's funny to me because the Warriors didn't have success before I got here.

So the whole notion, I didn't go to the Los Angeles Lakers or, like, the Boston Celtics or somewhere that, like, had success. Before I got to the Warriors, they won 23 games. the year before. So I always laugh at that notion. And saying that, you know, people would always just speak about Warriors basketball of the past before we got here, which wasn't very successful. I think before we made the playoffs in 2012-13 season, that that was the second time in 20 years the Warriors had made the playoffs. And so, you know, people would be holding on to that

and almost make you feel like as a player that that's your burden. You know, like it's your fault. And I wanted to ask, like, do you feel some of that burden being a franchise guy of the longest drought or do you just feel the burden of since I've been here? I mean, I want to say since I've been here, but every time you see a little Instagram post,

yo to Sacramento Kings ain't been there for 16 years, I'm the face that's on it. Like, I've been in the league for 16 years or something. So now you definitely, you definitely feel, feel the burden of the 16 years rather than just the five that I've been here. But, man, you walk around and you talk to any Kings fan. First thing they're going to bring up is 0-1-0-2. So I'm just trying to be able to get back to that

so that now you're bringing up, you know, 22, 23, or whatever it may be rather than we talking about something that happened 20 years ago. Like every, if the Kingsman is over 30 years old, they're going to bring up that Lakers series or that year at nine times out of 10. So like, I'm not saying I'm getting tired of hearing it, but I'm getting tired of hearing it. So you're going to change that? Yeah, yeah.

That's the goal. That's the goal since I've been here. Like, I told people, even with the draft, like, I kind of knew where I was going. So Philly had just traded for the first pick after I worked out for them. So they wanted Markell, Boston, I mean, L.A., the Lonzo thing, the whole connection, knew he was going there. New Boston was going to take JT. And then next was Phoenix. And Phoenix at the time had just gave, they just gave Brandon Knight like $80 million.

Eric Bloodsoe was on a crazy deal. So I'm like, I was supposed to have a workout for him. I'm like, shit, should I work out for them? Like, y'all got 150Ms going to two point guards. I'm like, I don't want to do that. So I cancel my workout, fly back to Houston for a little bit, take a little break because I was in LA working out and stuff. And then I had in Sacramento was number five.

So I'm like, that's where I'm going. Like, that's where I want to go. I know about the history at the time that had been 11 years. I'm like, I can go there and change something. So, like, I knew that's where my destiny lied. And so you canceled your workout in Phoenix because they had two point guards. So I have a question, just a follow-up on that. And looking back on that and knowing how it played out with Brandon Knight in Phoenix,

how it played out with Eric Blesso in Phoenix, do you ever look back on that with any regret and say, you know, had I went through with the workout, I probably still could have been the point guard of the future there with a back court mate like Devin Booker. Do you ever look back at that or do you kind of just keep it? I'll for sure look back at it. And like, I probably could have worked because that's the, that's the year that, uh, Bled had

tweeted, yo, I don't want to be here no more. So they traded both of them. My rookie year traded both of them. And even that year, I didn't think about it, but like three, four years later, I'm like, that actually, me and book would have been a, would have been a nice back court. So I've definitely thought about it before, a thousand percent. That's absolutely amazing. And just circling back, we were speaking on the draft.

You guys drive to Kiga Murray, who has been impressive. What has been your thoughts of a young fellow out of Iowa? And what do you think his potential is? Man, he's crazy how good he is. But he also has that, like, Tim Duncan demeanor. Like, every day I see him, like, yo, what's up, Brooke? Like, what's up, Fox? I'm like, come on, darling.

You got to give me something. You just give me something. But, like, he doesn't, he comes. comes in, man, he's the most efficient guy I've ever been around. Like, you look over if he's just shooting, he's not missing. Then we played pickup a little bit before training camp. He doesn't miss. He doesn't have any wasted motion.

Like, everything he does is just efficient, defensively, offensively, grabbing rebounds, boxing out. He kind of really just makes the game look easy. And if he had some facial hair, I would have thought the bro was like in his 30s. But he, 21, I think he just turned 22. He walks around and like the demeanor is just always calm and this he's going to be he's going to be really good. Like he's going to show the world what he can do. That's incredible to hear.

And I think for our listeners out there, I think one thing that you should take away from that and really understand is if he had facial hair, I think he was 30 years old because that's saying a lot. And, you know, one reason, and you know this well, Fox, one reason guys come in the league and struggle is not necessarily from the offensive end. Most guys can't pick up the defensive end. They can't pick up the rotations. They can't pick up, you know, when a guy should be sing out, or, you know, when you're bottom low man or the communication and getting a switch and pick and roll coverages based on who the people are

and the, you know, in the pick and roll action. People don't understand that. is just like, like somebody might not be fast in terms of like speed getting up and down the court, but in that half court, everything moving like that. And I think that's where that's for sure where people come in this league and start to struggle. Absolutely.

So that's, that's really saying a lot, you know, and that's, you know, I got high expectations for the young fella. I obviously being a big 10 guy, watch him against my sparks quite a bit over the last couple of years. So I got high expectations for him. and the way he's shooting the ball with the way the league has turned to guys stepping out of shooting it. Y'all running pin downs for him, different stuff like that. Like for most four men, have to chase a pin down?

Yeah, it's not territory that you used to being in. Absolutely. And so I think that's going to be really cool to see that develop. And I'm looking forward to that. When you look at your game, you know, know, as a basketball fan, like, who do you model your game after? You know, coming in, I remember in high school, everybody used to tell me Nick Van Exel, right? So I'm like, I'm young at this time.

I'm like, yo, I don't know who's Nick the quick? So I started looking at up highlights. I'm like, you know what? Like, I do kind of move like him when I'm coming up. And so I kind of started watching more film on him, a little film on like John when he was younger, like how he got to the basket, how he was playmaking. And then a lot of, like, young CP and Tony Parker, I started watching a lot of those guys. Okay.

Like, Chris Paul from New Orleans to me, like, so I'm from New Orleans, so I was, I watched him growing up a little bit. Going back and watching, obviously, from the way he plays now and the way that he was playing in New Orleans, it's like night and day. It was, I still, even before games, I still watch a lot of film on a young CP. Wow, that's impressive. That's impressive. Yeah, and the Warlands, man, with those series that he had and with San Antonio and stuff like that, yeah, he was, dude was amazing. He was actually amazing. Absolutely. I spoke about you being the fifth pick in the 2017 draft, and I wanted to ask you a question. I know Lanzo, like you said, Lonzo was drafted before you. Obviously, JT was drafted before you. Markell folks. And then, gosh.

And, okay. So, here's my question. question. I know when I look back early on my career, I think about the young guys and you actually just mentioned one that I'm about to speak on. I think Brandon Knight was a year before me in the NBA draft. I'm certain he was actually. Kyrie Irvin would destroy Brandon Knight every time they played. And I had

a relationship with Kyrie. Kaii was still like didn't like Brandon Knight because everybody thought that they were better to him in high school. So every time he played Brandon Knight in the NBA, he destroyed him. Like, if you think back to the rookie sophomore, the rising soccer, yeah. You remember Kyrie made him fall?

Yeah. Okay, so that's going all the way back to high school. And what I wanted to ask you is, do you feel a personal rivalry with those guys that were drafted before you, especially the guards? Do you feel, you know, Lonzo, Markell Faults, not necessarily Josh Jackson, not necessarily JT, as they are wings? But against those guards that were drafted before you, were you like, I probably should have been a number one pick.

I'm a point guard. If y'all were looking for a point guard, it's me. Do you feel that rivalry still when you play those guys or not really? Not really. I think the only person that, like, it would have been a rivalry per se would have been zo. And that's only because we played each other twice in college. Like, I never got to play, I never played, I never played, I never played JT. I never played Marquille.

And then obviously, when we were coming out, you know, Zoh's Pops was, you know, he was loud at the time. I obviously, he's torn down, but he got three sons in a league now. But, like, he was loud at the time. So everybody was turning it into something that it wasn't. Like, me and Zoh was cool because we had been to camps together. We had been to the drastic, like, we did a lot of stuff together. obviously when we step on the court like it ain't no brother shit like it's all competing but off the court you know it was never like that uh but that would have been the only guy and then we were in the same

division like we we both got drafted to terrific so we was playing each other times a year um so that would have been the only one that would have been but uh even then it kind of never really to to me it was never really a rivalry but to some people you know they try to you know Kentucky UCLA kings lakers it was it was it was was supposed to be something like that, but it never really was. And then Kale was hurt for a while. So I probably only played Kail probably two or three times in my career right now. Wow.

So were you in Lanzzo never really a rivalry because you just felt like, no, like I'm better and it's not a rivalry? Or was it just not a... I mean, I think we had such different games that it was never really a like go-at somebody. It's like me. Like, whoever it is is on me, I'm trying to get 40. And if you got help, I'm gonna kick it. But Zoe is I'm gonna get my guys off first

and then, you know, my offense comes as it comes. So I never really, like, we never had like the same mentality. So it was never kind of a thing like that. I know you got married this summer. Congratulations, number one. I said a ring on yours too. Mine's not on right now.

I had to get it fixed. I can dig that. I'm still getting used to wearing this ring all the time, man. it takes them getting used to for sure. Yeah. But congratulations on that, number one. Number two, just like, how do you feel? Like, I think that's a huge step in life.

And you and your wife has taken that step. Just how do you feel? Like, what feelings did that bring over you? It was great. Well, one, like, you y'all actually, because Rese worked for y'all for a year. But it was probably the best day of my life. You see, I can't stop smiling.

It was, man, it was great. Like, we've been together for a while. And, I mean, she was, like, she was a wife to me. She's always making sure I'm good before anything else. She played basketball. She played basketball at a high level, too. So it's like I got another coach in my ear. But when I come home after a bad game or something, she's not going to say nothing because

she's been through it. She's a coach's kid. But it's great, man. like, I feel like there's not many better things than getting married, especially getting married to the person that you feel like you're going to be with forever. So the look on your face says everything. It says everything, and that's amazing to see. I love, you know, just to see people find their person.

You know, you go through this life and it's, you know, for every good that it gets, you know, that it gives, there's some negatives as well. You know, and I think people always think, like, oh, it's just positive, this, positive that. But to have someone to, like, go through everything with, I think that's absolutely incredible. And I've heard, and you just said it, you know, your wife, who, I've heard about, like, you know, she go to your workouts with you,

she'll get on the court with you, like, how is that sharing and that? And knowing that, like, y'all both have an equal passion for the game of basketball. Yeah, yeah. Until everything, like, is official, like, during the season, like, she's here. I'm like, if we got an optional workout or something, like, she's coming. Because, for one, it's a summertime, and this is the most time we get to really spend together. So we do everything together. Workout.

She's in the gym getting shots up. Hell, she'll be like, yo, let's go to the gym on Sunday night. Let's get 100 makes or whatever it is. So just having her there, like, I've gotten better as a, not only a man, but as a basketball player since. we've met since we've been together. So it's, I said, it's like having another, it's like having another coach with me, like, all the time. That's incredible, man.

I'm happy to hear that. Just looking forward to this season, what are some of your goals moving forward? Like, what do you think is next for you in your career? The next thing that you need to prove moving for, other than obviously, you know, making the playoffs. Man, for me personally, it stems to shooting the ball. Like, whenever I've shot the ball well,

the team has done better because now you might have to take an extra step up and an extra step up guard me it's probably it's a wrap so just being able to shoot the ball I think unlocks so much for this team we'll have shooters everywhere around Domas like it'll I think it turns us into

an entirely different team if I'm shooting the ball if I'm shooting the ball the way I want to shoot the ball and for me like it's a lot of film like I've shot the ball well in practice now it's like, do that shit in the game. And like it's, I don't want to say it's a mental thing for me, but like I shoot the hell out of the ball in practice,

shoot the hell out of ball in workouts, all of our live play. Now it's just getting to that level of consistency in the game. And like consistency is the biggest word for any professional athlete, really. If anybody understand that brother, it's me. I think, you know, I've had it in my career where I shot the lights out of the ball.

And, you know, and then really once KD came here, it was kind of like, yo, I need to get these guys involved. And I stopped looking to shoot. You know, and then once I stopped looking to shoot, the rhythm of it was messed up, then you start to lose confidence in it and getting that confidence in that shot. And the game is a totally different thing. I always tell guys like, no, you come in a gym with me. You come in this Warriors gym.

There's two guys who are going to out shoot me. That's Steph and Clay. And nobody else outshooting me. But making that translate to the game is a different thing. You know what I'm saying? So I 100% understand that. You know, and then from that standpoint, too, like to be a winner for me, like the way I've looked at it over the years is your point guard has to be able to shoot the ball.

I'm like, well, it's the last team that's won a championship, and the point guard wasn't a really good shooter. Like, you're probably going back to like, what, 2013, whenever the Spurs, whenever the Spurs won, was it 13? 14, one of those years. When the Spurs won, it was TP. 14. 14. Like, that's the last time because then it was Steph, Kyrie, Drew can shoot the ball.

Like, all these guys, all you to win at a high level as a point guard, you have to be able to shoot the ball. And that's why for me, like, that's the biggest, most important thing. And I think even when you look at Tony Parker, the game was so different than where three point wasn't really a prevalent shot or wasn't really a shot that people were hunting. and Tony Parker mid-range was deadly. Fire. That was a big shot then. Absolutely. And obviously, like, you know, in the playoffs,

you have to be able to get to a mid-range shot because teams are going to start taking away your first, second, third option. So you have to be. Yes, they are. Which I think I can, I'm a good mid-range shooter. I can get to the basket at the blink of an eye. So now that next step is being able to extend my range.

And it's not like I have to shoot 40%. It's really just being 35, 30, 30, like just being respectable from three. And I think that opens up the world for us. It definitely will because nobody can stay in front of you, you know, and with your speed and just being willing to knock that shot down. Like, oh, I know he's willing to take that and he can knock it down.

It's going to change the game for you. It's going to open the floor for your teammates. And I look forward to seeing you do that. I'm rooting for you, brother, always ever need something for me. Got a question for me. I'm here. And I'm really. rooting for y'all because Mike Brown is my

guy and I want to see Mike do well. I know you and Luke has built a great relationship. Luke was here with us so you got some good guys on your side brother and I hope you know that it can turn for y'all I think it will this is a big year for you and

I'm looking forward to seeing you take that next step. You should 100 percent be an all-star if you not an all-star that shit is on you. That ain't on nobody else. Which your talent, which your skill. If you're not an all-star this year, that ain't know nobody else with you

because you are that damn good. Yeah, I appreciate it. And that's respect, man. Everybody, like, I'm like, I love Dre because one, he's going to spit the real. But, like, it's always going to be respect at the end of the day. And we all know, like, this is a brotherhood guy is going to get into it.

But once we step off the court, you know, that shit is done. That shit is done. And we are brothers. So I really appreciate that. Absolutely, bro. I'll see you soon, man. As you know, we play four times a year.

I'm looking forward to seeing you, but I appreciate you coming on, man. Yes, sir. Thank you for having me, Doc. Peace.