The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show - Dillon Brooks Suspended, Ja vs. Steph, and a Playoff Breakdown

Episode Date: May 5, 2022

On 'The Draymond Green Show' Dray breaks down Game 2 of Warriors-Grizzlies including Ja Morant's amazing game, Dillon Brooks's foul, and what the Warriors can do moving forward. Then he discusses the ...viral clip of Mad Dog Russo and JJ Redick on First Take and how the rest of the playoff series' are shaping up. #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:56 I've had a little time to think about everything that happened as well as the other game 2s. So let's, well, before we get into that, I know we've discussed on this podcast before about Hazel saying, don't have a hat on and have my haircut. So I want to explain to you my last 36 to 48 hours and why I have a hat on. So yesterday we got back at 4.30 in the morning. My daughter needed to go to school. But the rest of my morning was filled with going to see plastic surgeon to get more stitches in the side of my eye. And I could not get a haircut.
Starting point is 00:01:38 cut because I also, while seeing a plastic surgeon, I also had to see an ophthalmologist and get the inside of my eyeball checked for bleeding and all of these other things. So you can imagine how my yesterday was so brownie blends could not come touch up the hair. So that's rough. And the hat helps my eye looks a little smaller than what it actually is. And so it's like compressing down and it's not giving you the full picture of how bad I look, although I look terrible right here. Don't give me wrong, I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination. I actually look okay here, but it's a little worse without the hat.
Starting point is 00:02:20 So bear with me this episode. I hope you all understand why I have this hat on, why everything is kind of looking a little. Ah, but that's that. That's my appearance. This is, you're not really here to see my pretty face, are you? No, I think you're here to talk. and let's talk about some games and let's talk about the world of basketball.
Starting point is 00:02:41 So let's get into it. The Warriors lose game to 106 to 101. Let's dive into that one. John Morant was absolutely incredible, which you'd expect. You know, I've spoken about Jai for a couple years now and the type of player that I think he's becoming. And so when you speak of going into an opponent's arena ahead 1-0, with the possibility of going up to or headed back home,
Starting point is 00:03:11 you expect everything. You expect desperation, which is what they play with, which explains the Dylan Brooks file to me, and we'll talk about more. But more importantly than the Dylan Brooks file, what it explains is John Morant and the passion and tenacity and the ferociousness and aggressiveness
Starting point is 00:03:35 that he played games. game two with, and he ended up with 47, 8, and 8. Now, the reason I say that is because, like I said, I've, even with the MIP conversation, as you can see LeBron tweeted the other day, like, and this is why John Moran is way too special to even be in an MIP situation, because guess what? John Morant would be in a situation like that last year and possibly give you that same game. And so that was kind of the whole thing about the MIP conversation. But like I said, what explains John Moran's game to me better than anything is the desperation that he played with, the desperation to not allow my team to go down 0 to 2
Starting point is 00:04:23 headed out on the road. And so what did he do? He did everything. He made threes. He got to the basket. He had 15 straight points in the fourth quarter. He did everything that they needed him to do. to win the game.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Now, in saying that, and with him doing everything, us, to go to State Warriors, I'm looking at this, like he did do everything, he did make every play. A couple bounces here and there, a couple of files on myself
Starting point is 00:04:46 that I have to be better with down the stretch, and there's a 102 to 101 game with still an opportunity to win the game. So I feel very good about that as an opponent, knowing that there are some things that we can clean up, one being turnover, We had nearly 20 turnovers, which you turn the ball over that many times against any team.
Starting point is 00:05:09 You put yourself in a dangerous situation. You turn that ball over that many times against a young Memphis Grizzlies, probably the most athletic team in the playoffs still playing. You're really, with one of the most athletic point guards to ever play, you're really going to be in trouble. And so when I look at that, I say, man, in spite of having nearly 20 turnovers, in spite of all the things that transpired in the beginning of the game,
Starting point is 00:05:40 in spite of John Moran having 47, 8, and 8, we still had it under one minute, one possession game. We come up with a rebound, we go down to score, and maybe we're talking to everything. There's a totally different tune now. The series is in a totally different place. But in saying that, the series is one-to-one, headed back home.
Starting point is 00:06:01 When you go on the road, I've said this before, you want to go win one game. You want to take home court advantage. Did we try to get greedy? Yes, we failed. But we did what we had to do and let's go out and win one game. And so the position we're in is pretty good, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:18 coming back home. Jai Morant, some of the finishes that he had in that game, I saw some of the comparisons to Erd Jordan. I mean, it was absolutely incredible. But the one where I came, Helpside, and jumped and went vertical, and he did whatever he did in the air and went underneath. I mean, that was just one of the incredible finish. It was absolutely insane.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I'm going back looking at that, like, man, you just got to take your hat off to him. He made some incredible plays. I think for us, I think we also had a bunch of shot turnovers, which is something we talk about, which are bad shots that we take that leads to transition runouts. I think we had quite a few of those. And so when you look at, we nearly had 20 actual turnovers,
Starting point is 00:07:06 probably 20 shot turnovers. That's absolutely hard to overcome. And like I said, yet we're still sitting there with a chance to win the game. You know, when you look at a guy like Zaire Williamson, you got to take your hat off to the rookie, he hit was four for eight from three for 15 points. Now, they were big threes.
Starting point is 00:07:30 They weren't like just a three here or three there. He hit timely big threes. And again, when you're going on the road, those are the things that you have to take out. Now, in saying that we were seven for 38 from three, a lot of threes that, you know, I think we make on a normal basis. when you look at some of our shot turnovers that we had,
Starting point is 00:07:58 you have to ask yourself, number one, when you're getting those open threes, if you don't get into a rhythm, which I don't think we did, if you don't get into a rhythm, then once you do get those open threes, they're not so open because the rhythm isn't there. And so you have to get a Memphis Grizzlies defense credit.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I think they did a good job of defending, but I also think some of that falls on us as well and some things that we can correct. By the way, I actually don't have my ring light today either because I don't want my face lit up. So I hope you all understand that as well. But I just had to say that because I see my video. I'm like, oh, I'm a little dark. That's intentional just so you know hiding all of this. But and moving forward, the Dylan Brooks file, when I say,
Starting point is 00:08:52 that their desperation explains the Dillon Brooks file. It explains John Moran. When I say that explains the Dillan Brooks filed to me, you're starting off game to, I'm not one to get off into the, oh, is he dirty, is he not? That's for you to make your own decision. I really don't care whether someone wants to classify him as dirty, whether you think it was dirty, whether you think it's not.
Starting point is 00:09:20 The moral, that means the reality is it happened. Like, the play happened. Gary Payton is hurt. That's my only concern. I can really care less about, is Dylan Brooks dirty? Was it intentional? Was it not? That's small.
Starting point is 00:09:36 That's low-hanging fruit. That's beside the point. Like, Gary Payton is hurt. That's my concern. That's where it begins and that's where it ends. I don't get off into the, oh, it was a dirty play. Like after the game, I say, yeah, it was a, BS play. I think it was a BS play. But to get off into it's Dylan Bruce, a dirty player.
Starting point is 00:09:56 That ain't a lane that I live in. I let the talking heads live in that lane. I let them debate it. I don't get off into that lane. The lane that I get off into is how do I make this right? How do we, what do I have to do in order to overcome the loss of Gary Payton the second? you know and that's kind of as far as it goes but the desperation you know you're starting off a game you're trying to set a tone it was evident to me that they were there to set a tone so you can say was it a mistake was it not like i said i don't get off into that you can say was the elbow a mistake or was it not like i said i don't get off into that what was evident to me was that they were there to set a tone.
Starting point is 00:10:49 So whether you did those things on purpose or not, maybe, yes, the elbow wasn't intentional. Maybe, oh, man, the file wasn't too intentionally hurt him. But what was intentional was they were coming out to set a tone. As you have to do down 1-0 on your home court going in the game too, you have to come out and set a tone. If you look at all the press clippings and, you know, the things that they put out, it was, we knew they were coming out to set a tone.
Starting point is 00:11:20 They talked about how we had running a rebound in battle, and they weren't as physical as they normally were. So you knew that they were coming out to set that tone, just like I knew they were coming out to set the tone. So that's why to me, whether the things were intentional or not really doesn't matter. What was evident was they were coming out of the set of tone, and as their opponent, you got to take that on the chin. You got to take that here.
Starting point is 00:11:44 You got to take that how it comes. And so for me, it's like, okay, they came out and set the tone that they wanted to set. Give them credit. I'll give them credit. Like some fans may be upset. Give them credit. They set the tone that they want to set. You knew right away, first three, four minutes of that game, the type of game that that was going to be.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Whether you were opponent, whether you were a fan, you knew what type of game that was going to be. And so for me, that's kind of all that really matters. You know, the eye, the elbow, the cameraman bleeding. I don't know if people saw that on TV, but right after I went out, the cameraman on the baseline thing's bleeding. And so, again, that was all a part of it. The gym was cracking now. The arena was cracking.
Starting point is 00:12:35 It was a fun arena playing. I mean, it was exciting. And game five is going to be even more. But it was cracking in there. And it immediately took on the same vibe that the players had on the court that the game kind of was taken on. It immediately took on that same vibe. And so like I said, you got to give them credit. They came out.
Starting point is 00:13:00 They set the tone that they wanted to set. Let's not get off into, oh, man, he did that on purpose. He elbowed him on. They said they were coming out of set a tone as a very young team. They set the tone they wanted to set. now it's on us to respond. It's on us to reach that level of physicality and exceed it. That's what you have to do.
Starting point is 00:13:20 That's a playoff series. Playoffs get physical like that. Playoffs get chippy. So I've been in enough of these series to know that's all a part of it. I don't get caught up in it. And moving forward, let's talk about the way I was booed on my way out. You've probably seen my press conference by now where I said, listen, they booed me.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I think it's very distasteful to boo anyone after they have an injury. I saw some of that, or we saw some of that, when Kevin Durant tore his Achilles in Toronto and fans cheered when he went down. I think that's one of the most distasteful things that can take place in sports. Why? As I spoke about before, when you leave the basketball court, any injury that you sustained on the basketball court, that injury does not go away when you walk off that basketball court. It's not like, hey, man, I go on a basketball court, and anything that happens to me there,
Starting point is 00:14:21 once I walk off that court, I'm fine. You know, if I get an elbow to the eye, my eye is swollen on the court. When I leave that court, it doesn't stay there. Like, you live those things every single day of your life. And so, um, when, when Toronto fans, Blue, Kevin Durant or cheer Kevin Durant cheer when he injures himself. That's so distasteful. That A,
Starting point is 00:14:49 affects how he feeds his family. B, he has to now rehab that for a year. He has to go under a knife, which is life-threatening. You have to do all
Starting point is 00:15:05 of these things. You don't just leave that injury on the court. And so it's so distasteful because contrary to popular belief, we are actually human beings. And you actually feel that pain when you leave that basketball court. And when you leave that gym, you actually can't go home and possibly play with your kids. Or, you know, you can't go on and, you know, do the necessary things or on about your normal life like you normally do. And so it's such a distasteful thing because you're a fan of a bad.
Starting point is 00:15:40 basketball game or a basketball team. Be a fan of a basketball team. But understand that there are actually human beings that you're watching. And sometimes you need to learn how to step outside of, oh man, I'm cheering for this team and this happened. And that helps my team. No, no, no. Because if somebody coming your job and slap you in the face or kick you in the face or elbow you in the face or harm you in any way and other people there laughed at you, you'd feel away. Now, when I say fill away, it's not that my feelings are hurt per se because, again, I did what I wanted to do. And like I said, it felt very good to do as I did.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I mean, it may have felt too good. I must be honest with you. I enjoy every moment of that, every second of that moment, I enjoyed it. So don't feel bad for me. I got off what I wanted to get off. And like I said, it was worth every penny. See, what you don't understand is when you get ejected from games, you get a fine. I didn't get my money's worth on that fine.
Starting point is 00:16:59 But I got my money's worth on whatever fine is coming my way. immediately in that moment, I said, all right, I'm either about to flip them off or I'm not. And there's been this, there's been this, this clip coming to my Instagram and coming to my Twitter of myself and Maverick Carter. This was in the very early, early days. If I'm not mistaken, it was the very first episode of Spring Hill slash uninterrupted hosted by Maverick Carter's show, chasing dough, needing dough,
Starting point is 00:17:37 I'm sorry, kneading dough. And when I did that, A, it was probably six or seven years ago, but B, $20,000 is still $20,000. What I'm telling you is I justified in my mind
Starting point is 00:17:52 that it was worth whatever price that I was going to pay at that point. $20,000 is still $20,000, which is why you also see, I said, I'm going to go do an appearance and make that money up. because I still want my 20, 30, 40.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I don't know if I'll get fine. I think Kyrie Irvin may have gotten fined $50,000. There were multiple instances there. I had one. So I don't know if I'll get fined that, but again, this is me you're talking about. So I probably will. Maybe it will see that.
Starting point is 00:18:26 But the moral of that story is I got my money's worth. And so when you're sending me the clip that says, oh, when it says me saying $20,000, is still $20,000. No, that's a fact. $20,000 is still $20,000. But in that moment, I was totally fine, and I'm still totally fine
Starting point is 00:18:47 with whatever dollar amount I have to pay because it brought me great joy to give them the fans in Memphis exactly what they deserve that you're going to cheer or boo or something when someone gets hurt. It's just as tasteful. And there's no place in sports for that.
Starting point is 00:19:04 There's no place in sports. for us. So they are who they are. Maybe they'll do it again. And in that moment, I'll decide what I'm going to do. But in that very moment that happened, I made that decision. I live with that. I stand on that. We move forward. It is what it is. The booze will be louder in game five. Kudos. Let's get it. Before we go to the next series, we have our first ever mid-pod breaking news. what Adrian Wojnaraski says that Dylan Brooks is going to be suspended for the next game. Your thoughts?
Starting point is 00:19:43 Dylan Brooks is going to be suspended next game. Wow, that just happened right away. Breaking news, that is interesting. You get my live reaction. I mean, again, what's the debate if he should have been suspended two games or blah, blah, blah? I think it's legit. You know, you get thrown out for a flagrant two.
Starting point is 00:20:03 And as I've said, clearly intent doesn't matter anymore. Whether he was intends or not, doesn't really matter to me. But the reality is Gary Payton's second is out for an extended period of time. It was a nasty fall. Defensive's a player. I get it. He's suspended for one extra game. Kudos to them.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Doesn't change our method of attack. We still got to do the same thing. You know, we'll see how the fans feel about it. Do they think it was enough? Was it not enough? I respect the accountability from the NBA. You got to hold guys accountable. I've been held accountable.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I always respect the accountability. So we'll see. I mean, you know, he's ejected for the next game. Still a tough game for us, as you can see. He was ejected pretty much the whole game. Last game, we lost. So it's low-hanging fruit for me. Yesterday, there's a lot of news.
Starting point is 00:21:08 news in sports talk world in the sports talk world. But in particular, JJ Reddick sending the clown back to the circus. Number one, I'm not sure where this dog, this bad dog guy really came from. I really noticed them maybe over the course of the last couple months going up and just screaming to the top of his lungs when he's sitting next to Stephen A. Yesterday he goes on TV and he says, America is tired of Draymond Green.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Not sure what gives him the right to speak for America. what he's done in his life for her. I mean, he sits in on Stephen A's show and screams. So I'm not sure who he's become in sports or in media to say how America feels and what gives him that right. But we're not shocked that he would think that he has to write to speak for America. He then proceeds to say, shut up and play. I'm not wanting to really pull the race car very often because I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:37 we all know the role that race play in the world that we live in. And so I'm not really wanting to pull the race car very often, but that definitely had a very racist connotation. Just, I mean, he, a very racist undertone and even beyond it being, having the racist undertone, we don't need to go any further than who are you?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Who are you to say, like, what have you done in your life to say America's tired of him? Shut up and play. Shut up and play. As I said on my Instagram caption the other day, those shut up and play, shut up in dribble days, those are long gone. We don't, we don't listen to that anymore. We don't want to hear it anymore. It has no place here and nor will it be tolerated. I also proceeded to say, it's time for you to go home and sit on your couch and thank the good Lord that I didn't want his job.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I meant that from the bottom of my heart. Before I signed with Turner, I was actually offered a spot on first tape. So there's your backstory for, I don't play games. I don't play these reindeer games. When I speak, I speak from the heart. When I speak, know it's real. it's thoughtful and more importantly, it's truthful. When I say sincerely yours, the new media, what I mean by that is the landscape of media is about to change.
Starting point is 00:24:21 You will no longer be allowed to sit there and say what you want. You will no longer be allowed to put out these false narratives. You will no longer be able to allow to not know what you're talking about and we're going to listen to you. Those days are long gone. You know why? because we have guys like JJ Reddick who's done it, who speaks it, who knows how to speak on any different topic, who's not afraid to shut an idiot up?
Starting point is 00:24:48 When I say sincerely yours, the new media, you will be held accountable. And you will have to know what you're talking about in order to speak on these sports. You will have to know what you're talking about in order to speak on this game of basketball. you know why because we're doing it now we're doing it now and we speak it and we can do it so so bad dog go thank the good lord that i didn't want your job you can have that but just know you will be held
Starting point is 00:25:27 accountable i will be watching you and embarrassing you so make sure when you go up there screaming and yelling and talking all that nonsense out the side of your name you're not that nonsense out the side of your Oh, now, buddy, you will be held accountable. You will. Believe that. I'm holding everything you say accountable. The days of the media holding players accountable and you no longer being held accountable are over.
Starting point is 00:25:54 We're not living with that no more. Sincerely yours. The new media. Moving on to other game tools, the Celtics and Bucks. Jackson's happy. everybody clap it up for Jackson one time for the one time. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:26:19 The Celtics come out 109 to 86. Now, if you remember correctly, I said when we were talking after game one, if you're both of those teams, you leave that game like, we didn't do this well, we didn't do that well, and we would see who got the better. Well, I said specifically, Janus won't, you know, if you're the Bucks, you think Yonis won't shoot nine for, 25 again. Yannis had a rough shooting night again. And that has a lot to do with the Boston Celtics
Starting point is 00:26:52 defense. I don't know. After two games, you can see the Celtics, they are really, really, really loading up on Yonis. They're making it tough. And also, I think the thing that most people don't understand about the Celtics and what makes their defense so great is they have so much length. And so even when Janice is driving past one guy or, you know, driving into one guy, you have another two guys coming over. There's so much length. I mean, their starting lineup goes 611, 610, 69, 68, or 6,7, whatever you consider Jalen Brown.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And then they started Derek White, who's 6'5. So they're starting, and Marcus Mark normally starts who's 6'5. So they're starting lineup, there's so much length. and it really makes it hard, especially for someone like Janus who really lives in the paint. It really, really, really makes it hard for Janus. And so their defense has done a great job now. And saying that, the series,
Starting point is 00:27:57 and before we talk about the series moving forward and back to Milwaukee, Jalen Brown came out with Avengers. Jalen Brown came out. He said, I'm going to do. dominate my matchup, and Jason Tatum then picked up from there. Now, the beautiful thing about that is everybody, and I spoke about this before everybody was talking about Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum can't work, blah, blah, blah. You be very careful in getting rid of a number two who can come out and start like that and get you 30 points. I'm going to say that again, breaking that up.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It's good to see those young guys working, but Jalen Brown, I mean, the way he came out and started that game, 17 points in the first quarter. It was beautiful. He put his stamp on the game and Boston row from there. Now with the series moving back to Milwaukee, you have Boston. They've done their job and getting it to one-to-one. But now you have Boston going in there feeling good knowing that we can stop, Yannis, can't stop him, but we can make him take tougher shots and throw off the percentages and just live with the tough ones. The thing about that is, going back to Milwaukee, all of those other guys are going to shoot better.
Starting point is 00:29:14 They're going to shoot better on the road. They're going to play better. More like game one, Grayson Allen got it going. Those guys are really going to shoot better at home, which then makes that defense have to extend out more and it creates more lanes for Drew and for Yonis to drive.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So that's what I'll keep an eye on going into that game is how the other guys shoot the ball because role players, as I've said before, road players play better at home. So that's something to watch for. I think that'll help unlock Janus. But that is definitely something to watch for. The Miami Heat goes up too old on Philly.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I'm not going to spend much time here. If Joelle comes back, we'll talk about this series. Joe L don't come back. That one's over. The Phoenix Suns versus the Dallas Maveris. I do want to talk about this one because the Phoenix Suns, what they showed last night was, and I was watching that game in the first half, and I'm like, man, it's only a four-point game, two-point game.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Dallas was playing pretty good. Phoenix weren't playing good. C.P. Norbook had got it going yet, and the game was right there. I knew they were in trouble. And so the Phoenix Sun showed why they are the number one seed. I mean, Chris Paul, one thing that Dallas has to understand is, if you're in a position where you don't have D-Book going, Chris Paul is, he's about to be 37 years old.
Starting point is 00:30:39 He's a great player still. But as you get older, you just can't do that all the time the whole game. And what Dallas has to realize is when they have Chris Paul tamed, when they have Devin Booker under wraps, they have to take advantage of those leads. They have to take advantage of those times and build the lead up. You can't just sit around four because at some point, Devin Booker is going to make shots as he did.
Starting point is 00:31:03 and at some point Chris Paul is going to take over the game. We know that. That's who Chris Paul is. He's always been that way, but even more so now that he has to preserve energy more. That's just how it goes as you get older. It was absolutely beautiful to watch the way he took over that game. He's calling Luca into every switch. Now, people may say, oh, man, they're calling Luca into every switch,
Starting point is 00:31:25 and that's important because they're scoring. No, why that's also important because it's not allowing Luca to rest on that end, and he carries such a heavy load on the offensive end and a heavy burden that the energy that that requires is through the roof. Well, for Luca, now having to defend that as well, I mean, that's a very, very, very tough one and it's taking those legs away.
Starting point is 00:31:54 So that's something to watch as we saw Jason Kidd say, other guys got to step up. It can't just be Luca getting 30. you can't do that in the playoffs, but they're going home. And the other guys will shoot better at home. Luca will get them shots. And so that's what I'll be on to watch out for, just putting Luke in that action, draining his legs.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And as you see, by that third quarter, he had two points. That's hard to sustain that over the course of 48 minutes. So I actually think Dallas will go home and they'll play better. But the sons are controlling that series right now. They end up winning by 20 last night. I wouldn't say it was necessarily a 20-point game. but they won by 20. Dallas has to make some adjustments,
Starting point is 00:32:35 and they have to find a way to get those guys involved early. In particular, Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson is going to need to play better. They're going to need that second guy if they're going to have a chance to beat a great defense like the Phoenix Suns. That's going to be a wrap for this episode of the Dremont Green Show.
Starting point is 00:32:51 We will be back next week. We have some interesting news of few things that may go your way, but you will need to tune into the pod next week, and we have some exciting news for you coming here from me live from the Draymond Green Show this week. That's a wrap. Peace.

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