The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show - Lakers/Thunder Recap + Jaren Jackson Blocks Controversy

Episode Date: January 31, 2023

Draymond Green recaps the Golden State Warriors victory over the Oklahoma City Thunder, what he's looking for in the team's matchup against Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves on Wednesday, and gives his thoughts on the Jaren Jackson blocks controversy. Produced by: Jackson Safon #Volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back to the Dremont Green Show. We have a great top of the show today. A few things going on around the NBA. Our win yesterday versus the Thunder was a good win for us. I think that's our first time winning back-to-back road games, they said this year. Winning four out of the last six games. And the two we lost, we gift wrap to team. But we'll get into that first.

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what's up to y'all in the chat. But let's get straight into the business. If you love the dubs, you know that January is a key month for us. Big matchups at home against Phoenix, Brooklyn, Memphis, and on the road against teams like Boston and Cleveland. Going to be a lot of fun to watch on television. But what if you actually could be at those games? For last minute amazing deals on tickets,

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After all of that, let's not get our hopes up too high, as we all know. The difference between fifth and 11th is like one game. Maybe 11 is an exaggeration, but you get the point. So it's important that we continue to put these wins together, but I thought last night in OKC, we got off to a really great star. I was looking, I saw something interesting on the box score yesterday. OkayC won the second.

second, third, and fourth quarter. Now, albeit one of them was like by a point and blah, blah, blah. Whatever. They won the first, second and third quarter, but we got off to such a great start. I thought in that first quarter, especially, like, we had the ball humming. Defensively, we were locked in. Offensively, the ball was just flowing. We were getting out in transition because we were getting stops.

We weren't following. And they struggled to keep up with the speed a bit. I thought it was very interesting. Their coach didn't call many timeouts and tried to run with us. I knew that would change when at the end of the first quarter. I looked down at their bench. Now, shout out to the young fella.

He's having an incredible year. All-Star will be in all-star, as we all-star, as we all know. Shout out to young fella Shea. I looked down at their bench at the end of the first quarter, and She was down there like, like this. Now, he had both hands stretched back like this. And I said, whoa, they're going to keep trying to play at this pace. I also thought it was interesting because they had been starting, you know, as you know, they have two Jalen Williams on their team. They have been starting both

Jalen Williams. And they took the bigger Jalen Williams out, the big man, and they started small. Now, me and Lune always had this running joke about all these guards and the NBA. NBA and I was no more big man. So Luna and I laughed about that. But I thought it was interesting because what they were pretty much saying was that they were going to match speed for speed. And they actually fare better when the bigger Jaylon Williams is on the floor. He shot the ball really well last night too.

But it was just interesting to see the theory. Like most teams usually go bigger. They tried to match small. and I felt like if they would have kept matching us up small, like trying to match small groups, I thought we were about to run them out of the gym and beat him by 40. But they switched their game plan.

And, you know, Shea got going. I think we had him bottled up really well in the first quarter. He got a couple buckets there in the second quarter. They kind of got him going. And then he finished the game with 31, pretty much right around his average on the year. But, man, I was really impressed with the development. and, you know, we've all been watching Shade develop at this race since,

I mean, pretty much since his rookie year. I remember playing him in a playoff series with the Clippers before he got traded for Paul George and the Paul George trade, and he's been improving. But I was really impressed with the improvement of Josh Giddy. Last year, when Josh Giddy first came into the league, he was really, really a past first guy. And still past first, still look at it. and set other guys up. But it's like that he's gotten that floater down.

Like if I'm watching the game, mid-ranges and floaters, he's gotten that shot down. And at 6-6 or 6-7, for him to be able to get into the lane and shoot that floater consistently like he's been doing, that's going to be dangerous. Because what that'll mean is if he can continue to do that, you have a guy in Shea and him who can get to their spot and get to the shot they want to get to at will,

which as you continue to build that team out, let's not forget they got Chet Holmgren on the bench. As Chet comes in and get his feet wet and, you know, obviously you still got to become the player that everyone think you are, which I don't doubt that he will. Just the raw skill that he has at that size, I think is absolutely incredible. Josh can really get everyone else involved. So you still have a traditional point guard in a sense that will come down, not even think about his shot at all, get everyone else involved. But that ability to get to that shot when you can't get everyone else involved,

that's going to be very critical. And as his career goes on, even if he just plays the traditional point guard and get others involved and never go shot first, With having that, he'll average somewhere between 14 and 18 points a game. That's without even having a score first mindset he can do that. Now, he continues to get better. That shot continues to get better. And it can be even more.

So I think, you know, that OKC team and what they're doing, it can get interesting. It can get very interesting. And then, as you know, they have some young guys, like, Zhang, who we really can't even tell yet if they're going to pan out or not. So say they do. It can get interesting. So I really, you know, I really enjoyed playing against those guys last night.

You continue to see their growth. They're writing the thick of things. You know, I spoke about the game apart. You know, they're writing the thick of things in the playoff hunt, which I think is absolutely amazing. So very fun game to play in last night. Like I said, I thought our start was great. And the way we closed the game out was great.

Obviously, they have made their run. They cut the lead to two, possibly even tying the game up. And, you know, we made our run, pushed it back out to eight. And once we pushed it to eight, you know, that was kind of a wrap. And they couldn't get back in after that. But a fun game and a much-needed win for us. put two in a row, you know, two in a row together on the road is big. Now, and saying that, to start this road trip, 2 and O with a win tomorrow,

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obviously, they're still without Carl Anthony Towns. Anthony Edwards is having an incredible season. And since Carl Towns has been out, he's really picked up his scoring. He's picked up his aggressiveness. And, you know, it's very interesting because it's almost as if the paint was clogged when Cat was playing. And obviously they have Rudy.

It's almost as if the paint was clogged. But as we all know, Carl shoot the lights out of the ball. But where it gets interesting is the spacing. because the four usually is in a trail spot, right? Like, the four isn't, especially not Carltony Towns, most of his threes come from above a break. And so he's not really in the corner. He's always in the trail spot.

And what that does for driving angles for, like, even if you have to honor Carl Towns, if you have to honor Carl Towns and maybe not help as much, it still clogs it up a little bit. It puts someone in gaps. and takes away some of the driving angle. So to see that now there's only one traditional big out there with Rudy and and slurishing, and I also think when Rudy missed some games,

the cat was playing and was flourishing. It's an interesting take because my first take when the trade happened with Rudy was that you're going to two traditional bigs and you have a very dominant guard, young, number one pick, kind of showing you he's ready to. to take the rain and putting them out there with two traditional bigs, what's that going to do for his driving lane? And so it's been interesting just to see that dynamic on, like, whichever big has been, he's been more aggressive and been able to get more into the paint.

And so that's going to be something to reckon with. We have not played this group yet with only one big. So it will be interesting to see the difference in Anthony Edwards. as opposed to the Anthony Edwards that we saw at the beginning of the year when we won here in Minnesota. Looking forward to that. But in saying that, as I always say, we come out, we take care of our business, we play Warriors basketball. I have no doubt in my mind that we'll be successful in that. Now, for a little bit of your NBA controversy this week, it came out the other day that Memphis bookkeeper, stat keeper,

is under fire for padding Jaron Jackson Jr's stats. That's interesting. The reason that's interesting is because, number one, if you don't know, I mean, we live it every night. Apparently, I needed to get seven and a half points last night. I only got seven. How do I know that? Because people talk so crazy on your social media when they bet

and they don't successfully, when they don't successfully complete their bets. Like, oh, it's, Drayman, you suck, you only have seven points. But it's like, actually you suck at betting because just like I only have seven points and it was seven and a half. You could have very well chose under seven and a half, and you chose seven and a half, over. Does that make me dumb and sorry

Or does that make you dumb and sorry at Betty? Because you actually made that decision. So I think more so you should credit Vegas For putting the line right there And like fought yourself because you chose the over. Like you can't. People are notorious at Gellin like pointing a finger to someone else. Like hey, you had a choice.

The choice was very simple. I think Ramon's going to score eight points. I think he's going to score seven points. Regardless of what I score, you made that decision. So you're actually bad at what you do. Like, just because I score seven points doesn't actually make me bad at what I do. It makes you bad at what you do because you lost your money. You can't get mad at me.

Anyway, back to what I was speaking about in the first place, which is the Jaron Jackson's stats being padded. Number one, let's say this. Super happy for Jaron. That's my young fellow. That's my young Spartan dog. I'm always rooting for him. So do I think his stats are padded?

I don't watch all of their games. I can't say if they are or not. But what I do know is Jaron is a hell of a defender. The majority of his stats are blocks. And Jaron gets a lot of blocks. As I've said on this podcast before, one of my problems with Jaron is he goes for every block. And being as great a defender as he is,

he doesn't have to go for every block. So if I see a game where I'm like, oh, man, Jaron has a lot of blocks, that's very realistic because he goes after a lot of blocks and he's very, I mean, much more than capable of getting a ton of blocks. That's a skill that he has. So I can't sit here and say, oh, man, his stats are patted.

But the reason that's interesting is because, number one, you think when you're speaking of defensive player to year boatings and all of those things, quite frankly, blocks and stuff matters, which is crazy. And, you know, it's just like points. Like, you know, people will see, oh, man, this guy has 17 points. That guy may be playing awful and may not be helping that team at all.

It may be getting garbage points. But if they see they have 17 points, it's like, oh, man, that's great. People look at defense like, oh, look at that. He has such, such, such, such steals. That doesn't necessarily mean this guy was good defensively, not saying Jaron, just saying in general. Stats don't always tell the story. I've had games this year where I've completely locked down the defense side of the ball,

anchored the defense very well, and had one still and zero blocks. Now, where we're calling the question is if I really only had one still and really has zero blocks. But in saying that, that is what's on the stat sheet, and I know what I did on this game defensively. But voters, they look at those things. Like, you look at Rudy Gober. He won, like, what, three defensive player of the years because of blocks. and, you know, it matters to people. It really matters to people the stats that someone has.

And so it's interesting from there. Back to the betting, it's very interested from a betting standpoint because one block or one steel or something like that can really change people, the outcomes of people nights. In some cases, it can change the outcomes in people lives. And, you know, when you think about the money that people have been on these Fanduil sites and hot streaks and all of these other things,

it's really, like, it really matters. Now, I personally, I've noticed all year that, like, I'll get a steal, I'll knock the ball away. And so, for instance, if I, if somebody comes down the lane and I knocked the ball away, right? And one of my teammates go pick it up, that's my steal. Or I've noticed it on rebounds. Like, I'll go up for a rebound and, like,

I'll just tap the ball to one of my teammates. Instead of grabbing, I'll just tap it to my teammates to start the break. And, like, I'll look up and I didn't get the rebound. And all year, I hadn't really said anything. I would just, like, kind of let it go or whatever. My mom has said something to me for, like, for a while about this. Like, they're not counting your stats. And also my guy, Charlie, who watches defense like a hawk.

And I always watch things. He always says it as well. And so when this came out, I was like, well, maybe I should acknowledge this because the reality is to say that I'm only ours in 0.8 blocks and 0.7 steals or something like that. Like, I know that's not accurate. That's not accurate at all. And so, yeah, the NBA has to do something about this stat thing. I would like the credit for my rebounds and credit for my blocks.

I'd be interesting to know if somebody went back and counted up all the blocks that I have, all the steals that I've had that didn't get credit for all the rebounds that I've had, What would that actually come out to? I'd be interested in seeing it. Like, for instance, last night, I had two blocks. Somehow I finished the game with zero blocks. And it's just like, yo, like, two steals and two blocks in the game, that's pretty impressive.

Like, I would like my two blocks. So, like I said, and what you're starting to see is also, was like, I remember our old bookkeeper, his name was Fred Katz. He retired. He was incredible. What you're also starting to see is like a new wave of stat keepers, bookkeepers coming into the game. And quite frankly, they're not as experienced as the Fred Katz of the world.

And so, like, maybe they just got to get up to speed and realize that, hey, man, if this guy knocked the ball away, that's his, that's not someone else's. or if he tapped that rebound of somebody, a control tip, that is his rebound. That's not someone else's because, quite frankly, I really, like I said, I haven't really said anything about it all year because I just kind of go on by my day,

but it does matter. It matters in a major way. So someone need to get that right, not quite saying the bookkeeper was or was or was not padded stats. I can't just throw allegations out there like that on people. It's a stiff allegation, so I'm not going to throw it out there. But I do know I've been missing some stats, and I just kindly like to ask if someone can help me out here

and just make sure I give my stats, I very much appreciate it, because I'm missing some stats here, and like I said, they do matter. So if y'all can see to that, that would be great. However, that's a wrap, this episode of the Draymond Green Show. have an interview coming up later this week with Mr. President himself, C.J. McCollum, leader of the New Orleans Pelicans. As we know, Zion Williamson is an all-star starter. Steph Curry is an all-star starter. Luca Donchitz is an all-star starter. LeBron James is an all-star starter. And Big

Yote is an all-star starter coming out of the west. Out of the east, you got Donovan Mitchell. You have Kyrie Irvin, you have Kevin Durant, Yannis, and J.T. Shout out to the All-Star starters. We actually have the All-Star Reserves coming up tonight, I think. If I'm not mistaken, it's tonight. I could be wrong, and it could be Thursday night. So don't quote me on that. It's possibly Thursday, Jackson.

Okay. Well, that's on you to do your research on that. It's Tuesday or Thursday. Don't miss it. That's a wrap from this episode. to the Draymond Green Show. Peace.