The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show - Robert Sarver Suspension Reaction

Episode Date: September 20, 2022

Draymond Green gives his perspective on Suns governor Robert Sarver’s one year suspension and $10 million fine after the investigation into his behavior and language in the workplace. #Volume #Herd ...Produced by: Jackson SafonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:57 and I think you all know what it is. I've sat back on this topic and just kind of watched for a few days or a week or so of statements, of reactions, actions taken. And it's been very interesting to me. And obviously the topic that we are going to discuss today is Robert Sarver, the governor of the Phoenix Sons, who was recently suspended one year by the NBA and fined $10 million for, his or how he conducted himself in the workplace,
Starting point is 00:01:45 how he ran the organization. And I think it's very interesting because to get suspended for one year and fine $10 million, I mean, the only way you get suspended for one year and find $10 million is if you are the owner of an asset and you can't be fired.
Starting point is 00:02:08 because I think anyone else in the NBA who, and especially from a front office standpoint, like maybe not a player, although we've seen players get thrown out of the league for less. But I think anyone that's an employee of an NBA team, not NBA player, although you could possibly throw them, us in there as well, would 1,000% be fired if half of the things that came out of the investigation into Robert Sarver came out about anyone else?
Starting point is 00:02:58 And as I said before, I've sat back four, five, or six days, and just kind of watched different people's reactions. And a lot of things around this or surrounding this is very interesting to me because, number one, if you use the N word to re-describe something that someone said or telling a story that someone has told you or using the word because someone else did, stop it. That's ridiculous. Because the level of comfort that you have to have to even use the word again does not validate or make it okay for Robert Sarver to use the N word. I saw the report also said he used it at least five times. Okay. at least five times could be 100 times
Starting point is 00:04:22 at least five times could be six times at least five times could also be that is just a word that you use in our comfortable using now quite frankly I'd have a hard time believing that he's using the word with an A ending and not an ER ending
Starting point is 00:04:45 however not really that that matters or not, but ER does get a little harsher than A. And quite frankly, I can't imagine that in his vocabulary is the N word ending in A. I can't imagine in his vocabulary is the N word ending in ER. What significance does that have? Zero. The significance or the relevance that it had is that it baffles me that people try to decipher the difference in between the two. Well, if that guy used it ending in ER or A, it's less discriminatory or it's less of a gut punch or it's less meaningful if it's used with ER or an A. it's absolutely ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:05:49 What else is ridiculous is, and by the way, I say this as someone who actually uses the word. When I am amongst my friend groups, when I am amongst people I'm close with, I may use the word. I do use the word at times periodically. I too am a little out, just say wrong.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I too am a little wrong for using the word. I too am a little out of touch. Because, and here's why I say this, the fact that I myself and others will use such a word as an endearing term, it's a little fucked up. It's a little messed up in itself. I grew up using that word.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I grew up as the word being okay. And I'm also not going to sit here and lie to you and say, I probably won't use the word again. That would probably be a lie. I'm kind of not into lying. Like, it is what it is. I have gotten better at about using the word. But the reality is I still do use it.
Starting point is 00:07:25 But I think it's actually. sad that like you don't you don't really hear words in that vein for other nationalities for other races used as an endearing term so why is it that the term that's been used for us as African Americans to degrade us to disrespect us to call us everything except for our name. Why is that term used as a term of endearment? I think it's actually insane. I've been doing more thinking about this, especially since all of this stuff came out. I've just been thinking about it, but let's not get off topic. Because that's a totally different conversation. But the conversation that needs to be had is how can someone that's leading an organization like Robert
Starting point is 00:08:29 Sarver, which, let's face it, the reason your organization thrives, the way the organizations thrive is pretty much built on the backs of African Americans, because, I mean, you could just look at the team roster. This is also a team that has an African American coach. This is also a team that has an African American general manager. So the thriving that's going on in that organization is 100% being heavily driven by African Americans. So, okay, let's say Robert Sarver gets a one-year ban as he did in a $10 million fine. So when he returns next year, because it's only a year, does everything just go back to normal?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Are those guys supposed to unsee everything that they just saw and heard? Are those guys supposed to feel comfortable with continuing to work with this guy? And quite frankly, I think it'd be absolutely insane if they were. But to each his own, I can't judge how they feel or how they may or may not feel. That's not up to me to judge. But I do think it's absolutely insane that, you know, know, Robert Sarvers is just going to receive a one-year ban and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, just return to the sidelines next year and return to the building next year.
Starting point is 00:10:20 It actually goes against everything that the NBA stands for. The NBA stands for inclusion. the NBA stands for diversity. The NBA definitely stands against bigotry and racism. And I commend Adam Silver, our commissioner, and the entire staff at the league office for the stands that they have taken over the years. I don't think there's been any other organization or league
Starting point is 00:10:51 that supports their players like the NBA supports us. So this does not, race. Like one thing you do, I know we live in a world of where you can do like a million good things and one bad thing and people paint you to be a bad person. Let me say this. This does not paint Adam or the NBA as like these bad people as if all the decisions that they've made up until this point have been incredible and this one kind of fell short of what should be. This does not paint them as that. But for everything that the NBA stands again, against and stand for.
Starting point is 00:11:34 This report that came out last week is the total opposite of everything that the NBA stands for. And so to think that someone like Robert Sarver that's acting in that manner can continue to represent us, that's bullshit. You can't continue to represent way more people than yourself with those. views was speaking to people the way he did with treating African Americans and women the way he has that's not okay because the moment the moment any of us do something wrong it's always I we you know we don't support that we don't do this we don't do that
Starting point is 00:12:26 and we're kind of left out on our own to figure it out. This guy gets to just come back in the fold as if he's still representing us and as if he's a part of one of us, that can't be so. Because for us, especially as African Americans, I'm uncomfortable. I'm very uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And knowing that, in that position you can just essentially do whatever you want and because you own an asset you can't be punished and so I saw where Commissioner Silber said I've taken the steps
Starting point is 00:13:16 that I can take the maximum penalty that I can hand out I hand it out and now it falls on you know in order for him to be kicked out as an owner of a franchise and forced to sell, that that vote would fall on two thirds of the other owners of these assets.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And so what I would say is then why don't we pose a vote? Because that is definitely an offense that's probably grounds for being forced to sell. I personally myself was actually a part of the game that was about to be played right after the Donald Sterling press conference, which if you remember back, it was Commissioner Adam Silver's first thing that he really had to take a stand on as the commissioner of the NBA, which was a tough one. And I remember, we were not going to play that. game that night, if Adam, if we, the players didn't think that Adam had taken the necessary steps that should be taken, that if the hammer that he dropped was not as tough or as hard as it should
Starting point is 00:14:48 have been dropped, we were not going to play that night. Looking back on that, I even with that, I still didn't think we should have played. However, I was super young. Probably think I was in my second year in the NBA. Had no say, whatever was going to. happened was I just had to go along with. I had no say. But I was a part of that game. And I, and I remember us seeing that announcement that Adam made was like, all right, well, I guess we're going to play. And so a part of me wonder why was it okay then, but not okay now. I would really need some clarity on that of how was it able to like how was it that Donald Sterling could be forced to sell and he's not it's the same thing the only difference is we don't have a recording but we do have a ton
Starting point is 00:15:48 of people and if you've read the interview um if you haven't you should and if you have if you have you know the amount of people that were interviewed as a part of this investigation. Now, let me say something. I do not support cancel culture. I do not believe in cancel culture. I think quite frankly, if you want my opinion, I think a lot of it is a bunch of bullshit.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I think a lot of cancel culture are people that didn't work as hard in life or didn't make it as far in life and think they're just allowed to punish those. that did. So let me make it clear. I do not support cancel culture. This is not cancel culture. This is not like, I'm sure most people that are basketball fans can't walk past Robert Sarver and say, oh, that's Robert Sarver. So canceling him is like, canceling someone, that's like two totally different things. So I want to make that clear. But it,
Starting point is 00:17:03 It's a little baffling to me that we'll walk into the arena next year. The Phoenix Suns will walk into arena next year. He'll sit on the sideline and we'll just continue on playing. So the one thing that I'm going to need is someone to explain to me why is it that it was okay to get rid of Sterling, but it's not possible to force Robert Sarver to sell after what we read. And secondly,
Starting point is 00:17:36 why isn't there just a vote being like, all right, so let's have the vote? Because then also what we'll know is, who else may be standing behind closed doors? That's something that I would love to know. And based on these votes, maybe we'll know that or maybe we won't. just because someone votes no
Starting point is 00:18:06 doesn't necessarily mean they are using that word behind closed doors because be that this, that is a fireable offense, I would never just throw that on somebody. I would never say, hey, if one of the other 29 voted, no,
Starting point is 00:18:24 they're using a word behind closed doors. I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all. But what you will know is values. like what are the values of others that, you know, quite frankly, we're playing for? What are their values, what they believe in, you know, morals? Like, you would just have a better picture of all of those things, and you would know how to operate yourself.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I think that's one thing that we would learn from a vote. And quite frankly, we would simply know who stands with us and who don't. because it's easy to sit back and not say nothing. We all can sit back and not say anything. That way, your opinion just isn't heard. It's not that you had an opinion and it was against the popular opinion or not. It's just not heard.
Starting point is 00:19:21 And no one's really asking for it. I'm asking that there be a vote. If that's the only way, then let's see what those numbers are. Let's see what they are because what I did see was a minority owner of the Phoenix Sun said if he's going to continue to be there, I'm out. I did see PayPal say if he's going to continue to be there, our sponsorships out.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So be that those things are happening, it's definitely grounds for a force to sell. Now, it's how would that take place? Because it 100% needs to take place. So how do we get to a, space into a place of where that's going to happen. That is my question. That's what I need answers on.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I think more of my brothers in the NBA need answers on, and I am looking forward to hearing that. Lastly, before we get out of here, and this is to guys in the NBA, this is to agents, this is to anybody who may hear this and may concern. I recently read, I know everybody's caught up on the news of, oh man, we're going to get high school players going back from high school to the NBA.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Great. I have no problem with that. Have at it. It's your business. Don't get so caught up in the big headline that you miss out on the fine print. And what I read in the fine print was harsher luxury tax penalties are being discussed. Why is that important? I think that's important because don't for one second fool yourself and just think.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Harsh or luxury tax penalty don't have anything to do with me. Because that's not true. Harsh or luxury tax penalties, that just falls on the owners. They got the money. They can pay it. Let me explain something to you. What I've learned in this league and what, what I've been taught in this league.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It's normally there's three to four teams per year really trying to win a championship. And quite frankly, if you're really trying to win a championship this year, unless you just overhaul the roster, you're really trying to win a championship next year. And after next year, unless you just overhaul the roster, you're really trying to win one that following year. So you really have three to five teams per year that is really trying to compete for championships. Why does that matter? That matters because harsher luxury tax penalties just mean those teams that aren't winning,
Starting point is 00:22:24 which is the vast majority of the NBA, they're just not going to go into the tax because there's harsher penalties. Well, guess what, guys, if those teams aren't willing to go into the tax, What does salaries do or the amount of people getting bigger salaries? They go down. Why? Because teams aren't going into the tax. So don't make the mistake of saying, harser luxury tax penalties,
Starting point is 00:22:54 that ain't got nothing to do with me. It has everything to do with you. It has everything to do with me when you speak of harsh or luxury tax penalty. Because most won't be willing to pay those penalties. So in turn, most won't be getting paid. And so that's something that I wanted to throw out there. Read the fine print. Don't just read the headline.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Don't get so caught up on the pretty headline that you miss the fine print and the things that really do matter. Because quite frankly, if high schoolers start coming into the NBA, what, I mean, there will be seven of them drafted in a great year. Okay? So if there's seven drafts in a great year, realistically, there may be three or four in a year most of the time.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Okay, that's three or four spots of the 60. Hars or luxury tax penalties, that's 60 to 80 guys not getting paid what they could possibly get paid. So don't let that go over your head. Pay attention to those small things, and don't get it twisted and think, That don't bother me. I don't got to pay the luxury tax penalty because you do.
Starting point is 00:24:14 So keep your eye out for that. That's a wrap on this segment of the Draymond Green show. This was obviously I wanted to share my opinion, my thoughts, and most importantly, my questions. Based on this Robert Sarver thing, I think it's we all know what needs to happen. I've said what needs to happen. I've been a part of a very crucial game that happened right before a force to sell. I've kind of seen it all unveil. And I think it's time that we see this one as well.
Starting point is 00:24:43 That's a wrap from the Draymond Green Show. Peace.

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