The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show - Trade Deadline Reaction

Episode Date: February 10, 2023

Draymond Green gives his thoughts on the wild NBA trade deadline including Kevin Durant getting traded from the Brooklyn Nets to the Phoenix Suns, Russell Westbrook getting traded from the Los Angeles Lakers, James Wiseman getting traded from the Golden State Warriors to the Detroit Pistons and the Dubs bringing back Gary Payton II, and the minor moves made in the Eastern Conference. Produced by: Jackson Safon #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's up everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green show. Trade Deadline special. As you know, I said I was not going to do a podcast until next week. But then big moves start happening in the NBA. And I just have some thoughts to share. So let's lock straight into them. The Phoenix Suns got a lot better, you think.

Hey. Kevin Durant to the Phoenix Suns and T.J. Warren to the Phoenix Suns for Michael Bridges, Cam Johnson, a 2028 pick swap and four first round picks. Number one, the Phoenix Sun's new majority owner of the Phoenix Suns team. Matt Ispia, my Spartan dog, Spartan brother, 2000 national championship, or excuse me, 2000 national champion. Matt Ispia takes over the suns yesterday

at about 12 noon was the press conference. And within 12 hours, he makes the biggest splash in the NBA. Who's surprised? I'm sure everyone else is surprised, but quite frankly, I'm not surprised at all because we Spartans go about things a certain way. When you're a Spartan, everything's all about winning. And quite frankly, Matt Isbier runs his company,

United Wholesale Mortgage, like Tom Isle runs his basketball program. Very Spartan to the core, Spartan through and through, still holds on to all of those same principles. And he's taking that to the Phoenix. Suns. Okay, so you take over to Phoenix Suns and you come in right away and you're swinging. You got to respect that. To trade for first round picks, you're pretty much saying I'm going for

everything right now. We have a window and while we're in this window, let's go all in. And I respect that because when you do have a window in this league, you have to be, you have to, you have to go all in if you expect to maximize that window. And you also don't know how often those windows are going to come around. One person acts out, one move made, and one injury, and it can completely kill a window. So when you have that window, you have to take advantage of it. And Matt HB had come in, taking over as the owner. What this says to me, number one is he's all in, he wants to win. Number two is that I plan on having this franchise for a very long time.

Because although I'm trading these four picks, I'm going all in right now, I'll ride it out until we get picks back. And you add Kevin Durant to Devin Booker, Chris Paul, DeAndre Aidan. That's a tough lineup. Monty Williams is a great coach, as we know. That's a tough lineup. Losing Michael Bridges is not a small thing. Number one, Michael Bridges continues to get better.

He's gotten better with the ball. His shot has gotten better. It's mid-range, it's money. And as we all know, he's an incredible defender. And he's an Iron Man. It's never missed the game in the NBA. I mean, plays every single night. And that right there alone is an asset.

That right there alone is a huge asset. set. They say the best ability is availability. Michael Bridges has not missed the game in his career. That is impressive. I mean, you're spraying ankles, your back's hurting, you travel, all of it. That's very impressive. So that right there was a big deal. Now, you think about, now, here's where you have to think. a player in your franchise like that that does all of that right,

that model citizen, kind of a great moral compass, and obviously talented. Taking that away from a team also does something to a team. Now, you're adding Kevin Durant, so Kevin Durant can definitely make up for what that does to a team. But just from a spirit standpoint, that can do something for your team

because Mike L is the guy who no matter what, no matter what's going on if books hurt, C.P.'s heard. If Aidan's out, no matter what's going on, everybody in that locker room know they can look to their left, and Mike Lerl's going to be in that lineup. So just from a spirit standpoint to your team, that can do something. But like I said, I have a lot of respect for Phoenix going all in. the way they have. Now,

what could be the downside for Phoenix? Obviously, we know the long-term downside. They have no picks, but who gives a damn? You're trying to win championship. Now, you figure out the picks later. And the reality is this. You have Devin Booker. You always have picks. Because at any point

you say, all right, fellas, this ain't working. We're going to blow it up and start over? You get, what, five first-round picks if you trade Devin-Berker. So you always half picks anyway. So the long-term effect, like, that doesn't matter, but where's the downside? Or where does Phoenix still have to improve? The biggest worry, I think, for Phoenix right now is the depth, although getting T.J. Warren back in that trade was a very big deal because T.J. Warren helps with that. You already have Tori Craig. You already have D. Lee. And I'm not

sure what's the deal with campaigns. Injury. Will he be back? Is it something that could linger? I don't, I don't know. But you have campaigns. So that's a lot. That right there is what is an eight deep rotation. In the playoffs, you really only play in nine. So I've heard Will Barton is going to go there on the buyout market. Phoenix, when you sign it, when you bring in a player like Kevin Durant and you're all in on championship, now you go to the buyout marketing, you can get the best players on the buyout market. Or, you know, maybe you're going to.

to get some of the top guys on the buyout market, just because they're going to think, A, I have a chance to win a championship, and if we win a championship and I play well, I can then go and get some money from somewhere. So you do have that opportunity. So insane all of that. To trade and get Kevin Durant on that roster,

I take my hat off to Matt Ishpia, James Jones, their entire front office staff for going all in and getting that done. Because that's a major, major, major move. major. You don't trade for players like Kevin Durant. Guys like Kevin Durant, they don't get traded. So to pull that off on day one of ownership-ish, I don't know where you go from here, brother.

I don't know if you can make a bigger splash in this league than what you did last night. But like I said, I'm rooting for my Spartan brothers, so kudos to that. Job well done. Are the sons' favorites in the West now? on paper. They have to be favorites in the West. Definitely on paper.

But you know, the Doves still in the West. And it's the Doves invitational until further notice, baby. So that's it on the Phoenix Suns. The Los Angeles Lakers, one day after LeBron James becomes the all-time leading score in NBA history,

the Los Angeles Lakers do what most had been thinking they would do since last year, which was traded Russell Westbrook, Along in that trade was Juan Tuscano Anderson plus a 2027 first round pick. One through four protected for DeAngelo Russell, Malik Beasley, and Jared Vanderbilt. The Lakers got better. And the reason they got better is not necessarily because they got better players,

because Russell Westbrook is still Russell Westbrook, point blank period. But DeAngelo Russell is a hell of a player. Malik Beasley is a hell of a player as a good player and Jared Vanderbilt's a good player and what do these guys add to the Lakers? Well, Malik Beasley is a shooter

which the Lakers need shooting as we all know D-Lo is a scorer but obviously can catch and shoot and the Lakers need that. Jared Vanderbilt is energy is defense is rebounding is dirty work. You know he's doing all those little things. So they got better.

They got length. Jared Vanderbilt adds lane. So they definitely got better. I think the thing that I will watch in this trade is Delo's fit next to Brine. That's going to be a big thing because Delo plays at a certain pace. And although since he's been with the Timberwolves, he's picked up that pace a bit.

but Delo Stills likes to play at his pace. And so just to see that fit and how that's all going to come together, I think that's important to how this trade will be judged. Obviously, the trade in the end is ultimately judged by the results. And that fit is going to be a key to watch in that trade. The Lakers also traded Patrick Beverly and bought back Mo Bamba, which was huge because they sent Thomas Bryant to Denver and sending time is Brian to Denver, you lose a big man but you bring back Mobamba,

who hasn't really lived up to the hype of the draft pick coming out. But Moamba can shoot the ball, and he has great length, great room protection. So if you compare him next to AD for, say, 10 minutes a game, that could be something dangerous. So I'm also hearing that Patrick Beverly is going to get bought out by the Orlando Magic, and it'll be interesting to see where Patrick Beverly goes. But overall, the Lakers got better. DiAngelo Russell comes off the books next year. Jared Vanderbilt has another year on his contract,

and Malik Beasley has a team option. And I think one million or three million of it is guaranteed. So the Lakers got better. They also left themselves some flexibility for free agency this year, which I think is a big deal, to not make a move and getting off Russell Westbrook where you got $47 million coming off the cap

if Russell were, if they just held on a Russ for another couple months, you got $47 million coming off. I think they still leave themselves a lot of flexibility as Dilo will be a free agent as Malik Beasley is on a team option and you can make that decision

when you need to make that decision. They leave themselves an opportunity to still go out in free agency and make a big splash. So I think job well done there for the Lakers. One thing I did not like is the way Russell Westbrook has been scapegoated. And not that Russell Westbrook wasn't the best fit, but like to hear guys get on TV and say a vampire in the locker room,

I'm not in their locker room. So I can't say what the energy was in their locker room. But to say a vampire in the locker room, like, you better be certain. that that is the case. Because that right there could really affect someone's livelihood. That right there could make a team that was like, will sound Russell Westwood, be like, ah,

but do I want that in my locker room? Because he was in the locker room with LeBron James and Anthony Davis. And if he's a vampire in that locker room, then what's he going to be in the next locker room? And so I think if you're going to go on TV and say that he was a vampire in the locker room, number one, you better be very certain. As I said, I'm not in their locker room. but that's almost, that's a hit at character.

Like that is a huge hit at character. And as you know, I'm very big on it. You take a shot at someone's character. You better be sure that that is the case. And then you ask yourself the question, what was the reason that he was vampire like in that locker room, if that is the case? Was it just a fit thing?

Like, you know, like you just know the pieces doesn't fit on court because again if that's the case and that's what's dragging the energy down is that we just know these pieces don't fit again to say that he's a vampire in the locker room would almost be implying that he's selfish that he's a bad person in your locker room that you don't really want him in the locker room around your younger guys if you have younger guys like and so even if you go out and say that like you have to have more details you can't just throw that boom and then leave it there like you have to have more details and saying that so I didn't like that because it just felt like a shot at character.

And me personally, I know Russell Westbrook does not have bad character. I know Russell Westbrook is an incredible dude. And so I didn't love that. But again, I can't 100% dispel that because I'm not in the locker room. But like I said, I am going to say, if you are going to say that, you better be damn sure that that is the case. And if you do say that, and if you even are sure, then God damn me, you got to give some facts. You can't just say, I heard he's a vampire in the locker.

You got to get facts because we need to hear those facts if you're going to say something like that. Because, again, talking basketball is one thing. Saying this guy shooting isn't that well may turn the ball is one thing. But then when you start taking shots at character, you got to make sure that's certain, and you have to back that with evidence. So that's it on the Lakers. Turn every Thursday into payday with TNT Thursdays on Fandul Sportsbook. Doesn't matter if you win or lose.

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And I think that's such a beautiful thing. I feel like in this trade, James Wiseman gets what he needs. The Warriors got what they need. James Wiseman needs to go somewhere where he can play, where he can get minutes and reps, and he's not expected to compete at a championship level. And he did that, or they did that. It's happened for him and going to Detroit,

where you're with a bunch of other young guys who's going to make a ton of mistakes, and you can just get to play through those mistakes and learn through those mistakes, because as we know in life, experience is life's greatest teacher. So for James Wiseman to go to a situation where he will have the opportunity to play

and play through mistakes, it's great for him because he's super talented, super skilled, just haven't had the reps. Played three games in college, 20 games as rookie year, no games is second year. He's probably played four.

15 games this year of actual NBA games. Like, you just, how do you get the reps? How do you see that picture that everyone wants to see, that developing that everyone wants you to see? If you never get the reps, yeah, you can watch as much film as you want, but you need the reps. And so, Jimmy Wise, good luck. You're a champion, and it's a lot of guys that've been in this league for 10, 15 years,

that don't check that box. you're a champion, you're going to a situation where you'll have the opportunity to play or you'll have the opportunity to get better. And I would just say, man, go into it with an open mind, go into it hungry, understanding that I got a new beginning and I got new life and take that energy from that and go and be who James Wiseman was expected to be coming out. I give credit to the Warriors for making that move and understanding that James Wiseman could very well still become an all-stop.

But what's the timeline on that? And does that timeline fit where you are right now? And so I give the Warriors credit on that. What you have to understand about James Wiseman is he's up for an extension this summer. What decision do you make then if that comes up? And so ultimately the dubs end up moving James Wiseman to the Detroit Pistons for five second round picks, excuse me, sending Sadiq Bay and Kevin Knox to the Atlanta Hawks.

Those five second round picks that the Warriors took back for James Wiseman has been moved to Portland. For the Young Glove, GP2, I'm excited about this move. Number one, we have struggled with defense. We've really struggled on the defensive end, bringing GP back. We all know what GP's capable of on the defensive end. can plug GP right in. He knows the system like the back of his hand.

We know him. There's really no adjustment. I mean, there's always going to be an adjustment. This is a different team. But you start looking at different lineups. You know, you look at a lineup with GP and Dante in the same lineup. And Andrew Wiggins possibly in that lineup. You start thinking about the defense and just the different combinations that you can put out on the court.

I like this trade for us. You always hate to see a guy go. Jimmy Wise is a guy who I've been here now for three years and just watching him grow up. But like I said, I'm very happy for a move. I'm happy for him because this is what he needs. That move before shipping the five second round picks to Portland for Gary Payton's second

would have saved the Warriors $131 million in Texas. salary and taxes over the next two years. That's a boatload of money. A boatload of money. So the Warriors could have credit to Joe Lekup. The Warriors could have taken that money back and said, we're just going to stay pat, and then we'll see what happens from here. Now, the Warriors will save about $40 million in tax as opposed to $130.

So the move to get GP will cost the worry essentially about $90 million, $90,000. close, maybe $100 million, or close somewhere in that range. So, got to give credit to Joe Laker for being willing to say, oh, no, we're not just going to sit on that. Because also then what message does that send to your team now? What message does that send in your face of your franchise and Steph Curry if you just stay packed? And so those are all the things that you have to take into account when you're seeing

these things take place at the deadline. It's cap hit, tax hit, long term, can you pay a guy, different things, all of those things go into play when you're watching this deadline happen. So incredibly active trade deadline. The Clippers made a move. They actually sent out Reggie Jackson. They sent out John Wall. They sent out Luke Canard to get back.

Eric Gordon, Bones Highland, and Mason Plumley, I think they also brought back. I like that move for the clippers. You get a young Bones Highland who plays with a ton of energy who may have the opportunity to walk in there and start. And that's what Bones want. Bones want to start an opportunity. I give credit to Bones. I love Bones demeanor.

Bones can play. I always tell young guys, especially young backup point guards, is be certain that you're ready for that when you ask for that. because as long as you are a great backup point guard, you always have the thought in someone else mind, and man, this guy may be able to start for it. And as long as you keep that thought in someone's mind, you can negotiate off the fact,

off the thought of them thinking you may possibly be a starter, anybody in the league. That is a negotiating chip. And so I always say this with younger guys, especially backup point guards, but younger guys in general, the thought of what you could be is sometimes better than the sight of what you could be.

And that's what young guys really need to understand. So bones wanted this, bones asked for this. You got to go deliver now. And by the way, delivery is... Clipper's trying to win a championship. So you got to deliver at that level. Or if you don't, then now people know you're a backup. And if they know you're a backup, your salary drops significantly

as opposed to they think you're a possible starter. to see Bones in his second year are already ready for that. I respect it. And the young fella got dog. He got hard. He going after it. So I respect it. But it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out

because starting every night is a totally different monster than coming off the bench. Totally different monster. The clippers also getting Eric Gordon back. It's good to see Eric Gordon play some winning basketball. Man, it's been years just watching Eric Gordon in Houston under, as we know, not the best circumstance, to see him back in L.A. with the Clippers, as he once was before,

but also just to see him get the opportunity to compete at a winning level. Like, you see E.G. on the court in Houston, and it's just like the life was sucked out of him playing that basketball. And you saw an interview not long ago where he was speaking on it. And so happy for him for that. And then also Mason Plumley, I think, is a good pick up. Mason Plummies are very solid big. You go from Zubok to Plumley, Plumley to Zubok,

however you want to look at, however you go about it, whoever you start. That's solid as well. So I think the Clippers, I think ultimately, they probably got better. Luke Canar wasn't playing much. Reggie Jackson had collected DMPs as a late. John Wall collected DMPs as of late.

So I think the Clippers got better. Very marginal, but I think they got better. And if Bones Cup become a legit starting point guard in this league and, you know, keep getting better like he's been getting better, Clippers definitely got better. The Eastern Conference, before we get out of here, they made a few moves. The Bucks get Jay Crowder, which they've been trying to do for about four or five months. The Celtics get Mike Muscala from OKC. The 76ers gets Matisse.

I'm sorry, they send out Matisse Stibel. and Jalen McDaniels comes back to the 76s. I like that move because Jalen McDaniels is a good defender, long defender. He has a decent shot where T.Eston struggled to shoot it a little bit. McDaniels can shoot it a little bit, so I think that helps. You know, it's not a move that's going to win you or lose you a championship, but it ultimately helps and that's what you need.

And then the Knicks get Josh Hart from Portland for pretty much nothing. first round pick, but something that doesn't help Portland much right now. So yeah, those were the moves in the East. There was a lot of noise around Toronto. Also, we had Jako Pertil go to Toronto. That's an interesting one because I already feel like there's like a log jam of like kind of Biggs, Biggs, kind of in Toronto. And there was a lot of noise about Fred Van Vlittigin moved.

OG Ananovia get moved. Gary Trent Jr. will get moved and quite frankly, nothing happened. They brought, Toronto were seller, seller, seller, seller, all you heard was seller and they ended up a buyer and not selling pretty much anything.

So that was an interesting deadline for them. We'll see what happens this summer with them. I think their idea would be to see how this works with Perto for the next two to three months. however long their season may go, and then you can make a decision on OG this summer. You can make a decision on,

are you putting Fred in a signing trade? Are you extending him? He has an opt-out. What's the deal with that? You can make a decision on are you resigning Gary Trent or what's the deal? So I feel like they're, you know, are you keeping Pascal past this year? So I feel like Toronto just put themselves in a position

to give themselves, what, 20, 30 games to see what it is that they have. And then maybe they're a seller this summer. maybe they're a buyer who knows. But overall, my favorite move from the trade deadline, I mean, come on. It has to be Kevin Durant. You just don't see players like Kevin Durant get traded and definitely not at the deadline.

So that has to be my favorite move. To the Brooklyn Nets fans. And this is it before we get out of here. I know y'all don't like Kyrie. I know y'all think Kyrie messed over y'all. But I'm going to give you a different perspective because most fans don't really have this perspective and don't really understand the business.

Kyrie Irvin should be the most loved Brooklyn-esque player of all time. Tell you why. Kyrie Irving deciding that he was going to go to Brooklyn, it didn't quite produce what everyone wanted it or thought it would produce or at least Kyrie thought it would produce, and a lot of people thought it would produce, which was a championship. Didn't produce that.

But what did it produce? Well, let's see what it produced. It brought you back. Spencer Dinwiddie, Dorian Finney Smith, Mikel Bridges, Cam Johnson, five or six first round picks.

Now, you're going to say, how did it bring us back all of that? Because if Kyrie never goes to Brooklyn, there's a zero percent chance Kevin Durant goes to Brooklyn. Kevin Durant only went to Brooklyn Nets strictly because Kyrie was going to go to the Brooklyn Nets, and he was going to play with Kyrie. So Kyrie brought you Kevin Durant.

Kyrie brought you James Hardin because the Kevin Durant, Kyrie pairing, brought you James Hardin. You also got, what, a picker or two back, a first-round picker-two-back for James Hardin. So in total, Kyrie Irvin delivered the Brooklyn Nets about six to eight first-round and the players that I just named for you. Instead of the Kyrie Hayden and Kyrie Slander, learn the business and appreciate Kyrie because he did y'all just about a good as was solid as anyone could do for a franchise

without delivering a championship. That's a wrap in the trade deadline special. So yes, like I said, love to Kevin Durant move those just don't happen. But GP2, coming back to the Dubs, I'm rolling. So right from this episode, peace.