The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show w/ Baron Davis: Dray on Steph’s Injury, Baron’s Random JJ Redick Meetup, Dwyane Wade Statue & NBA Locker room Etiquette

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

Draymond Green and Baron Davis share their reactions to the unveiling of Dwyane Wade’s statue for the Miami Heat (20:00). They discuss whether the Oklahoma City Thunder need to change their approach... to win a championship, as well as whether Giannis Antetokounmpo and Damian Lillard are the main issues for the Bucks, or if there are other factors at play. Draymond also provides insight into Steph Curry's injury,   stressing the importance of improved performance in Curry's absence (23:00). Additionally, Baron recounts a viral moment when he ran into Los Angeles head coach JJ Redick at a car wash in LA, where Redick was watching game tape (3:00). #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:34 about him sitting out back to backs. But I will say, players are starting to think about their future. After basketball is over as well. Word. But I know low management for him has to be something the whole franchise got to be thinking about at this point. It got me thinking about how long seasons is about to be for you as well. This is about to be a long season for you, Doug.
Starting point is 00:01:57 So I went shopping yesterday on Amazon. and I got some looks for you, some different, I'm going to do that. Yeah. Word. But I know Lowe's management for him has to be something the whole franchise is, you know, thinking about, they worried about.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And then it got me thinking, man, you know, you ain't, what, your 13th year? You know, I got to be thinking about you, brother. So I went shopping yesterday on Amazon, and I got to look for you with some different options. and I got a box and a gift for you. And I order something from you for Amazon for this season. There it is.
Starting point is 00:02:46 It's already open. Hey, a massage gun. This is clutch. For anybody who travels a lot, especially for me when playing a role game. I'll say, well, a low management. Huh?
Starting point is 00:03:02 I looked at different options and feel like I ordered the right gift for you. Got it. All right, my mom. I fucked up on that. All right. Word. Oh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Word, but I... It's already open. Oh, I'm waiting. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, word. But I know load management for him, but, oh, word.
Starting point is 00:03:30 But I know load management for him has to be something the whole franchise has been thinking about. And it has me thinking about you, Dre. It got me thinking, you know, this is a long season. and for you I had to go shopping yesterday on Amazon I looked at different options
Starting point is 00:03:52 and I felt like I ordered the right thing for you brother you have the right gift for me there it is saw already open hey a massage gun this is clutch for anyone who travels a lot
Starting point is 00:04:08 and especially for me when playing road games however load management really becomes a factor in back to backs games across the country. See? I'm looking out for my dog. I appreciate it, man. You know, them back to backs.
Starting point is 00:04:25 They are tough. And here's the thing. I understand where older players are coming from when they say, when they say, yo, you need to play back to backs. There's no such thing as low, man. We have X amount of games. But then you see like some of the older players and their bodies are broken down later in life.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And I think with all of the science that we have today, everyone takes things a bit more seriously. And we use the science, whereas they didn't have that back in the day. So, you know, it's a couple of things rearing its ugly head. But yet, I think there's valid points for both sides. No, I agree, man. You know, plus products are better now. You know, when I play, they had a massage gun and it was still. And so if it hit your bone, bro.
Starting point is 00:05:15 If it hit like your shit, you may be out for the game. Now, you know, they got all these great products. And so shout out to Amazon. I picked the right gift for you, bro. Help you like the massage gun. Appreciate it. Longgevity, baby. Much needed.
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Starting point is 00:06:43 What are you doing? How you doing, my brother? What's up, big dog? How you feeling? I feel great, brother. Disappointed lost last week, but we'll get into that. I got something. Over the weekend, I see you tweeted,
Starting point is 00:06:57 just ran into at JJ Redick at the car wash. He had the laptop watching film. Players coach, Lakers in Gray Hands, hashtag dedication. Talk to me about this. Like, what are you thinking when you running this? You know, hey, bro. It's a casual Saturday. You're doing parent stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It's your day off. You know what I mean? You're probably coming off the back to back. You know, we all in the same, you know, Jay, we all in the same neighborhood. Our kids play at the park. And so I was going to get my car wash. And me and my kids, when he got some lunch, I come back from the car wash. I see JJ Reddy.
Starting point is 00:07:41 He run up on me. What's up, B.D.? What's up, JJ? I look over there. I'm like, damn. bro, you're getting it in. You're working. He's like, man, I ain't playing around.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And we sat there. We had a conversation about just him, the team. And I was telling him like, yeah, bro, your personality on this team gives them real leadership. And he was just talking about like, you know, looking at breaking down film, but talking about the game. And he's one of those dudes. You can talk basketball all day. You know what I mean? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And, you know, I got excited because it's, you know, it's like talking to one of your peers as a coach. And you're like, man, I want you to win so bad because you know what the fuck you're talking about. You know what I mean? And I, and you're going to get these dudes to play. Like, he's talking about all the other players. You know what I mean? He talking about. No, that's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:08:39 He's talking about the, you know. Absolutely. Ron going to do what he do. We know that. AD. AD, now we all know how special AD is, but AD right now is playing at the level that everyone has kind of hoped and thought that he would play at for many years.
Starting point is 00:08:59 The way he's dominating right now is unlike an AD we've ever seen, in my opinion. And I think that does have, you know, that does have a lot to do with coaching. I think coaching has. You know, one of the biggest roles for a coach is you're one of two things. You're either a confidence giver or you're a confidence taker. And what it's looking like with not only AD, but with Roryon-Haree, Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves. D.D. Lowe hasn't played as great.
Starting point is 00:09:35 But what it's looking like with those other guys is Jackson Hayes, they have confidence. They have a belief in themselves. and man, when you got that type of confidence and you're getting that from the coach. It goes a long way. Especially in the league, right? Because everybody can play. And a lot of it is like,
Starting point is 00:09:54 I don't think fans or people really understand it's all the intangibles, right? Am I playing? Do I got confidence on working out? Like, when people say basketball is a mental game, it's all the mental components of the things you have to have like some mental fortitude. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:14 Like, I'm really good. I'm sitting on the bench. You know what I mean? I'm losing my, like, so having a coach believing you and letting you go out and hoop the way you know how to hoop, bro, that turns you into a whole different species. You know what I mean? And I think I'm saying we seeing that, you know, from the Lakers, I think, you know, when y'all had the run, you knew that. Like, you already knew who you was coming to the game. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:43 And you can do anything. You can make adjustments on the fly. So that type of confidence, right, allows you to be a real, real basketball player. You feel me? And not a system player. That's a fact. 100%.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I agree. So they're looking good. We'll see, you know, how it continues as we move forward. Because one thing I do think is if they're going to continue to play at a high level, they are going to need a better deal. For sure. Like D. Lowe with his shot making ability, his scoring ability, they're going to need him to play at a high level.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And some of his interviews I saw early was kind of like a little eye turn it. I catch him. You know, it was like you couldn't kind of tell whether he was like over it or pull him. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So which way they turn him, I think will be ultimately will be important as teams get into the season, you know, everybody start to get the, you know, a position of where they know what's going on, conditioning levels, all the stuff, and everybody's clicking as you get into the season. You're going to need a better deal, so I think that's something to watch for it, but I think they're doing well.
Starting point is 00:11:59 But I got one for you. I got another one for you. So a lot of people talking about this one. It's from your era, though I did play against D2. Number one, first, I want to say, congratulations to Dway. Congratulations to flash. My dog. That's my dog.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Absolutely. Yes, sir. I think, like, to get a statue, man, like that. To get your jersey retired is one thing. Like, that's incredible. It's great. To get a statue like you. On another level, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:31 You're not going to wear. That's a totally different level. You're immortalized. Absolutely. And so, number one, like I said, congrats to him. But we must, I must ask, what was your first thoughts when you saw the statue? You know, people are making a lot of body.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Do you say, who is that guy? Man. Man. What's your thoughts, man? Man. Man. All right. First of all, first of all, I want to echo.
Starting point is 00:13:11 what she said. You feel what I'm saying? Flash Hall of Famer Olympian. You know what I mean? NBA champ, you know, to have your jersey tired to be immortalized in a statue, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:27 incredible. You know what I mean? Probably emotional day, all the people out there and shout out to the Miami Heat organization because they just always you know, do it right. Until, until they picked a person to design the statue. I got some jokes because I felt you was going to ask me this.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I said, why did they give Dewey a T-Mu statue? when he said, yeah, when he said, who is that? I was like, man, who is that? You know, hey, bro, who is that? Who, who is that? Hey, I would like to make an announcement right now to anybody retiring or anybody picking another statue. Please consult with Barron Davis Enterprises on how to approve and design a statute. Come on, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I mean, come on, dog. We back. So check this out. Look how they did Iverson in Philly. And now look how they do it. It was like this big. Huh? I couldn't believe AI statue was like this big.
Starting point is 00:14:57 They gave AI an Oscar trophy. Come on, dude. That's the answer. That's the answer. That stands outside the arena. Come on, dude. So check this out. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I saw pictures of D. Wade viewing the statue face. It's actually, I think it was on Rachel Nichols' page, if I'm not a mistake. Of D. Way viewing the statue. And I must say, the maca of his face looks absolutely nothing like the statue turned out. So everybody's like, oh, D.Way saw it first. Like, he saw he approved it. But the mock-up of his face before the turn up, it looked like D. Wade.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Afterwards, it looked like Tim Thomas. Hey, bro. And I don't quite understand how it ended up that way. That's sick. But my thing is, like, don't they show the statute to maybe someone like, maybe Pat Riley, like, when it's complete before they just unveiled it and everybody like,
Starting point is 00:16:12 oh, yo, who is that guy? I just, and then another one is the, then the guy who made the statue comes out today with a statement
Starting point is 00:16:26 saying it is not for all humans to understand. It's not for all human activity or something of that nature. And I'm just like, yo, you can't come out and defend that. Chill,
Starting point is 00:16:37 Oh, me. Hey, you know what? One person that came out and agreed with your statue face, bro. Come on, dog. You got, this is what I think. I think they were like, yo, D. Wade, we need you to pose for this statue.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And you know how busy he is. He's like, man, I ain't got all day. And this shit was taken all day. So he called his cousin and said, hey, man, film him. So you think it's not D-Way? It could be. cousin.
Starting point is 00:17:10 He was like, man, I'm tired of this shit. Hey, cousins, stand in for him. And the artist didn't know if it was D. Wade or the cousin. Deshawn Wade. Damn, man. Shout out to Dway, man. We love you, bro. We love you, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:28 It's just... No, but I actually saw D. Wade last week, man. It's always a pleasure to see D. Wade to be in his presence. But, dude, you got, can they, like, redo the faces? That's like, how does that work? We got to do something, we got to do something. We got to do something. Because, like, think about, like, 20 years from now.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You know what I mean? Like, he's going to be like, yo, like, there's my statue. You know what I mean? And your grandkids are going to be like, hey, man, knock it off. He looked 20 years older in the statue right now. Yeah. Hey, hey. me to find the artist to create art for statues to represent these legends.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Lauren Hawsey. I'm not dissing the artists. She'd be great at it. I'm not dissing the artists or nothing because I understand art. I understand artistry. But when you do sculptures of people, you know what I mean? you're going to face the most backlash because we know what D-Way look like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:43 And so we want to see a D-WA statue. You know what I mean? That's a fact. I agree. I hope they can like twist the head off and like change it out or something. Or paint like a hologram on the face. You know what I mean? Like maybe.
Starting point is 00:19:05 something. Use some AI, a 3D printer, something. We got too many things today. This must be correct. This must be correct. He'll be going to be while. I'll be walking by my statue ducking and shit.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Like, that ain't me. That ain't me. I ain't going to get no statue, so I don't care. I'm going to make my own shit. Put outside my granny house. But not with that artist. Right in the hood. Not with that artist.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Granny ain't in the hood, no, ball. That's like the homie, that's like the homie, like, hey, bro, let me make a statue for you in front of Granny house. D-Way, these are jokes, man. We love you, though. D-Way is, hey, that's one boy, man. D-Way is going to be on my next season for WPF Baron Davis, so he already know.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I love you, bro. Yes, sir. Congratulations, though. That's amazing. That's amazing epics. Effigues. Way County. Does your favorite NBA player have what it takes to be crowned king of the court?
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Starting point is 00:21:30 Man, it looked like our boy staff would be re-evaluated on Friday. He had an ankle injury against the clippers. Now, with him missing the next two games, I think, you know, it helps. But how do you feel that changes your game with Steph not being there, you know, early on this season? Got to be more aggressive for sure. I think, you know, you got to find, I mean, number one,
Starting point is 00:22:03 it was very uplifted and refreshing to see him walking today. Absolutely. Because he's walking pretty good. so I thought that was that was good to see gives you a little more hope than what you initially had when I saw him lead to floor
Starting point is 00:22:22 so that was good I think for me obviously have to be more aggressive try to find different spots to score got to get up out that corner and then I'll probably handle the ball more you know, be more of a decision-making
Starting point is 00:22:42 and more of a decision-making role. But it's interesting because, you know, I don't really know what that entails today because we're kind of running an entirely different office. You know, so in a normal world where, you know, the offense that we've been running for the last 10 years, the nine years, I know exactly what that looks like. But we're kind of running a different office this year
Starting point is 00:23:08 And so it's hard for me to say currently what that'll look like for me. But I imagine that, you know, shots will come in different areas because the gravity that still pulls, it won't be there. So you'll probably find shots in different areas than normal. So just got to be aggressive and willing to take those shots because without a step on the floor, the first open shot you get is probably going to be the best shot. that you're going to get throughout that possession, as opposed to you get an open shot with Steph on the floor, you still, something else still going to open up once he started moving
Starting point is 00:23:48 because he just draws so much attention. I've been watching the way y'all play, too, and I think you can take more opportunities to just get more points. You know what I mean? It's like, especially, like, posting up, you know what I'm saying? So like the way I was looking at it is like, man, this should help you. It should help the young guys, right? And start figuring out like, oh, shit, let me start getting back in the post because
Starting point is 00:24:17 ain't nobody posting up. You know what I mean? And like, shit, you got post work. Yeah. You know what I mean? You got post work. For sure. It's like it could be.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And then also like now step out. Now you back to secondary push, pace push. You know what I mean? Moving a ball. Cutting. like all that little murkiness, you know, with the intelligence, okay, I'm going to get to the free throw mind. Okay, we can slow the game down.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Like, I think with child new offense and with these young guys, like, it's going to be, like, it should open something up. So when Steph come back, when other people, like the gravity, like you say, the gravity heat pool, it's almost like, damn, like pick your poison. You know what I mean? your poison. So I like that, man. And there was a moment. I think so, too. But there was a moment in the Clippers game. When Stefan, you collided, you came up, Pablo. After that, has something like that ever
Starting point is 00:25:22 happened to you in the 13 years? Listen, man. What should you say? No, that's a question. Oh, my God. My dog. What are you and Steph doing out there? Hey, relax. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Yo. Number one. That was. That shit hurts. I get them. Hey, bro. In 13 years, have you ever witnessed some.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Bro, he came onto me after like, yo, you are, I kind of ran it to you. I'm like, you think you ran into me? Edit that shit out. I saw he try to hop out the way. Edit that out. I saw you try to hop out the way, but I kind of read it to you.
Starting point is 00:26:35 You good? Oh, that shit was. So funny. Yeah, I'm all right. I hurt, brother. That shit was fun. I still feel the residual effect of that, by the way. That don't go away, just right away.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Crazy. No, I haven't ever had anything like that happened to me in. Oh, man. Oh, man. Listen, let's move on. That was crazy. Oh, man, that was. You know what?
Starting point is 00:27:10 I'm not going to discuss this. Listen, man, we're moving on. We got back to back coming up against the Pelicans. Obviously, everything becomes tougher with stuff out. Yeah. But not only is stuff out. You got wigs out. You got D'Anthea Mel now.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And so, you know, it's crazy because we're going to last night. And it's just crazy. The NBA, man, it changes everything. as you know, man, it changes so fast. And so you're going into last yesterday and just won two games about 77 points start the season combined. Feeling good, looking at a home stretch where you're like, all right, we got the clippers coming in,
Starting point is 00:27:56 then we got the pelicans coming in twice, you know. You're looking at that. You're like, yo, we could possibly start four and one, five, and oh, which is a great start. You let one get away yesterday. today that, you know, they just came out. They punched us in the mouth. Yeah, they punched us in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:28:14 They defended great. They were really good offensively. They put a lot of pressure on the rim getting downhill. You know, Derek Jones Jr. hit three-threes. Like, they had guys making shots. They played well. And all of a sudden, you lose that one. But not only do you lose that one, again, just how quick stuff, Shane.
Starting point is 00:28:35 You got those three guys out now. and with a tough back-to-back coming up. So not only are you losing some of the depth, which we spoke about, but you're going into a back-to-back and losing that depth. And so it just makes things a lot tougher and just shows you how fast stuff can change in this league. All of a sudden, like I said, you're looking like, yo, we could possibly start 4-1, 5, and 0,
Starting point is 00:28:59 and then you're faced with these injuries, man. And it's just crazy just looking at it. When you look at the schedule, I remember I used to look at the schedule month to month and say damn these are going to be the tough ones these are the ones we have to get you know what I mean and then this is a rubber game
Starting point is 00:29:17 you know what I mean? Yeah and so when you got injuries and you know you get a hard fog game like the clippers and like damn you know we was rolling we got caught up now you got Zion coming in you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:29:33 yeah for sure Sure. And we got to slow him down. Like Zion, Zion is a very tough, tough cover, man, because he, Zion is like, Zion is like a linebacker who's, like, you can't run a ball against him. Or like a running back who's just constantly putting pressure on your front seven. He always puts pressure on the rim. Like at all times, he's putting pressure on the rim, which reminds me a lot of, Blake Griffin.
Starting point is 00:30:10 When I was playing Blake, when I was playing Blake during, you know, them years when he was with the clippers, always putting pressure on the rim, always a lot of force, strong as hell. And like,
Starting point is 00:30:22 you can do what you want. They're putting their head down and get to the rim. And, you know, it's just a matter of you like trying out the foul, trying to make them make tough shots and then trying to keep a body in front of them,
Starting point is 00:30:34 understanding your distance to the rim, because ultimately you got to know once both of those guys are inside the free throw line, at that point they'll just jump. And once they jump, there's nothing you can do. Like, they're going to figure it out in the air because they got that type of bounce. And so slowing down Zion is tough.
Starting point is 00:30:55 You know, and, you know, one of the ways that you try to slow Zion down is not always defensively is putting him in action on the defensive end because you don't want him getting the rest on that end. And with Steph out, again, that's another one of those things that makes it tougher to kind of bring him into the action and also try to wear him down on the other end as well. So, you know, it creates a lot of issues. But nonetheless, it starts with doing the job on Zion, which will have to try to slow him down in order to try to stagnate their offense.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I agree. He's, and like, I think with him and Blake, you know, the difference is he brings the ball up the court, right? So, you know, I like how to use, I wish, like, Benny Del Negro would have used Blake, like, my boy Willie Green is using Zion as, like, a playmaker, initiate the offense, move them around. But I do think, you know, there's a gift and a curse with that, right? Because Zion, for how he's built, he's, he's downhill,
Starting point is 00:32:05 downhill, downhill, downhill. And, you know, I always say this about bigger guys. It's like when you play a guard game and you move like a guard, you're susceptible, right? And prone to more injuries, right? Because you cut and try to be finessed. And like, what a dude like that, he coming down hill, people getting in his way, right? And like his cutting, the way he moved is just, it just put a lot of wear and tear on it. on him and put a lot of fatigue.
Starting point is 00:32:40 So in a situation like that, you got to put him in picking rows. You got to post him up because he puts the ball up two or three times go to the, oh, he's going to fall on the other end, right? And so you got to play that. Yeah. You got to play that kind of like that game and stay in front of them and ground them as much as you can.
Starting point is 00:32:59 You know what I mean? Like I used to see Blake, like I used to tell Blake like, yo, bro, if you got space, I'm just going to throw the ball up. I don't even care. Because can't nobody get vertical faster than you can. You know what I mean? But I do think
Starting point is 00:33:14 you can stop them because you know why I'm picking you, bro. You're my front runner for a defensive player at a year. And I'm about to lead a campaign throughout the season, right? And so I want to share with our fans
Starting point is 00:33:35 some impressive staff. to start. My guy, Jemond Green, on my fantasy sleeper app, is holding opponents to just 29.6% shooting through three games this season. Now, I hope, I hope you get, I hope you get points for defense because my two, two, and five did not serve you well last night. Oh, bro. I needed like 40 points from you, dog.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I was, I'd take the L. You know what I mean? I take the L. I'm a bounce back, man. I got to get myself up out of that corner. Get out the corner. I'm a bounce back for you, brother. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:19 All that with the defensive player of the year, you know what I mean? I need that. Like, we got to get the boards. You know what I mean? We got to up that. We got to up the Annie on that. Like, you, AD, I got you.
Starting point is 00:34:33 I got you because I think your team is going to be a great. great defensive team and you're going to be a different type of anchor than AD. So I got a UNAD defensive player, but I'm campaigning for you. I appreciate that, bro. I think we've definitely got a chance to be a really, really, really, really good defensive team. Obviously, that starts with me as the anchor of the defense.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And so I'm really locked in on that end, man. I think, and then, you know, seeing AD and what he's doing, I'm like, man. Hey, they need to stop talking about defensive player at a year and go put himself in that MVP category with JT, man. Come on, man, going away from over here, man. Go ahead over there. Hey, D, what you're doing, man? Go ahead over there.
Starting point is 00:35:23 You know what I'm saying? So, now I'm locked in, though. I think, and then also we got a, you know, we brought in Jerry Stackhouse. And Stack is coaching the defense. And Stack got everybody locked in. And he, like, grading everything you do, every game. And so there's a level of, there's a level of accountability.
Starting point is 00:35:45 And last night, man, he had my grade low. And I'm like, Stack. And he showed a couple of the clips of what he said I did wrong. I'm like, yo, Statt, I can't leave Zubach body right there and trap that box with James coming down. I got to meet James at the rim. If I leave too early, that's a lot. And he's like, no, Wigs can get there.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I'm like, nah, Stack. Wigs can get in front of Zubbush. that tight to the rim if I leave early, but what I can do is meet James at the rim. And then there was another one that he deemed me over. And I saw the clip, and I'm like, he like, Dremont, no box out. Like, no box out.
Starting point is 00:36:23 My man is shooting the ball. That's not my man getting a rebound. No box out. And so, stack, stack, stack been on this, man. Let's go stack. And he's brought a couple, like, different things. Like, as you know. just about everybody in the NBA
Starting point is 00:36:39 do the same thing defensively. Stack coming back from college, he brought a couple different things that he wanted to incorporate, and I think it's really ultimately going to help our defense a lot. Shout out to Stack. Having someone like that
Starting point is 00:36:52 to hold you accountable like he's holding us accountable, it make you feel like, y'all, I want to do this for him. You know what I'm saying? Not just necessarily for myself. Like, yo, exactly. I want to do this for him.
Starting point is 00:37:04 He, you know, as a player, you know, as a vet, as a coach, as an OG. You talk about somebody who love the game, bro. It's like it'd be a different level when they love that game. You know what I mean? When they know the game and love the game, that's, you know, I'm just a fan now.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Just all my, all my dogs and my air, they're coaching and shit. And like they're coming back and like, they're giving y'all something. You know what I mean? Because that's what I've been waiting for. Like, we need the stacks. You know what I mean? We need Rico Heinz. We need Earl Watson and JJ Reddicks.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And you know what I mean? We need all these dudes around. You know, Willie Greens. We need these dudes because they got, they connected. You know what I mean? They connected and they can challenge you. Absolutely. Man, shout out to Stack, man.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Yes, sir. O.G. Stack, man. It's been great having him around. I always tell him like, you know, he reminds me of my Uncle Benny. I'm going to bring my Uncle out here. They sound alike. They acolyte. They got her seriousness to them.
Starting point is 00:38:09 You know not to fuck with him. Oh, really. He reminds me so much of my uncle. So it's been great having stack around, man. So I think that's going to ball well for us, and it's definitely helping me. But in other news, we're going to move around the league.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Okay. Oh, yeah, let me ask some that. Yeah. All right. Now, you know, we got to talk who you keep saying, I got to get myself out the corner. I know what that means, right? Explain to our fans, what are you mean?
Starting point is 00:39:01 Because you keep saying, I got to get myself, I know, I got to get myself out the corner. What does that mean? So coming into the season, like I said, we've kind of been running a different style of offense. And the spot of the office that I'm in is just, it's a corner. as players, when you're adjusting to a new offense, initially you just go to your spot, right?
Starting point is 00:39:28 Like you haven't figured out the loopholes in the office where you can find different space, how to find that space. And so for these first three games, I'm just kind of in the corner, and I don't necessarily know where those spots are yet. Like I'm still trying to figure out where I can find my way out of the corner
Starting point is 00:39:47 and not mess up the space. Right? Like you incorporate our offense. Everybody got their spots. That's cool. But then as players, it's on us to then figure out like, all right, like, where can I find my spots? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:05 Within this offense to where I'm not in Steph's way or I'm not in Whigs way. But yet, I'm putting myself in a position to be successful as well. I've never really been that successful out of the corner. because I've never really, except for my rookie year, I've never really operated out of the corner. And so, new terrain. Just trying to figure out that spacing and how I can find my spots and where I can go to get out the corner and not bunched off and something.
Starting point is 00:40:35 So that's kind of the challenge for me. And it's, no, it's definitely a challenge, but just trying to figure out. Yeah, and I would say, like the way I translated it was like, damn, I'm stuck in the corner. like I'm flat foot. You feel what I'm saying? So like getting comfortable is really like, okay, I know I'm gonna be here.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I gotta get my puppies moving. So it's a shot, it's a move, it's a pose, you know what I mean? And then being able to, but sometimes it's like, because it'll be a new office, you're like, damn, what do I do now? You know what I mean? And basketball is way faster than that.
Starting point is 00:41:16 So I think, you know, as, you know, just talking to the fans, as you get more comfortable in the offense, you know what I mean? It's also just getting comfortable in the corner and realizing that I don't have to stand here. I can't be stuck here. Like, I got to try some shit too because it's early in the season. You know what I mean? So for someone like you, just try. It's like you.
Starting point is 00:41:43 But what makes you so great is, a lot of young guys and a lot of players would try to force action. Like, hey, I'm not involved, like, instead of figuring out. You know what I mean? Great players take chances, and then they figure out their space and where they comfortable, and then they start building towards that. You know what I mean? So I think that's my translation.
Starting point is 00:42:16 So that's where I'm at. That's a great translation. I like it. That's exactly where I'm at with it. But that's what I was saying. No doubt. And I know like I got to figure it out. But that's what I was saying with a posting.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Like it's on me. With the posting. Mm-hmm. Crashing weak side. Like like I see it. You know what I mean? The fadeaways, the three-point shot, the pumping, the pump fake, you know, getting to like baseline, getting to the middle, baby hook.
Starting point is 00:42:42 You know, like putting pressure on the defense. Like, I can see it. You know what I mean? But a lot of times it's like, With the new office, everybody is learning how to figure each other out. You know what I mean? 100%.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And basketball is a very, basketball is a very instinctual game. And right now, I can't say that I'm playing off instincts because you're trying to just figure out kind of the nuances. And so, got to find a way to speed that up
Starting point is 00:43:11 to where it becomes instinctual. Because when I'm playing off my instincts, you know, the one thing I trust is my, trust my instincts. I trust my brain. I know what's going on a basketball course. So just got to find a way to make it more instinctual. And that's what I mean
Starting point is 00:43:26 by getting myself out of that corner. That's what I'm talking about. Let's get up. But let's get up out that corner. In other news, we're going to move around this league, man. Let's move around this league. Obviously the good guys are no longer undefeated. I would ask you, who do you got as the best
Starting point is 00:43:45 undefeated team left? You got Thunder, you got Celtics, you got the Lakers, you got the Cavs, who is your best team? Or, I wouldn't even say best, because I think the best everybody's going to say Celtics. Lakers and the Celtics. Who are the team that you're most excited about in that bunch?
Starting point is 00:44:02 I say the Lakers, because I just think they got they got it, they got and they are one establishing an identity which like, we don't know what the identity of the Lakers. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:18 since the bubble or whatnot, but the Lakers never really had an identity outside of like, it's the LeBron's team. Now they back to being the Lakers. I like OKC because they probably have the most talent of any team in the league. You know what I mean? And those young dudes are highly skilled basketball players,
Starting point is 00:44:39 and they just got to get mean. You know what I think? Yeah. By them losing it in the playoffs last year, getting punched up, like they got a little bit more confidence, you know, to go with it. And then the Celtics, you know, defending channels. Cleveland, you know, I like what they put together, but I don't think that Cleveland is, I don't think they want to the best, you know, I think they would be the weaker out of the four, but they play some great basketball.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And they, you know, they got a good system. They got a better system, you know what I mean? They got a better system. But if Darius Garland and Mitchell, if they can sink like they was that one year when they were both all-stars, they could be dangerous. They can. I think OKC definitely has some special talent. Shea gives Alexander is one of the best players in the league. And I don't think there's anyone that you can find to debate that.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I think he's going to put himself in that MVP category. possibly compete for, possibly come home with it. And they got a lot of special. Jalen Williams, special. Chet Holmgren, it's special. The one thing I would say about them is there's a certain readiness when you're ready to win, and I don't care how old you are.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I won my first championship in my third year, Steph's six-year, Clay's fourth year. And we used to joke around. We will pour, we will pour water on a guy's head. And, you know, we will pour water on the guy's head every now and then. And after the game. And we would do little stuff like that every now and then. Not every time.
Starting point is 00:46:40 But the one thing I see with the OKC team that is a little alarming for me is like their post games, like seven guys. in the interview. Like, there's a certain seriousness that it takes to win in this league. Absolutely. And there's a certain fear you have to instill in a team
Starting point is 00:47:00 in teams in order to win. And I just don't know if they're instilling that fear in teams with all the browlans and stuff after the game. Like, bro, all we all the bros and the homies. Like, that's cool. There's a time and a place for that. But every time somebody's in the interview,
Starting point is 00:47:19 seven guys, eight guys. Then you got the same seven, eight guys with a picture with Josh Giddy right after they play. Like, again, I'm all for having fun. Like, it's an 82 game season. You should have fun. But you also have to understand when people, people watching, are looking at you to be the team. And you have to understand when your moment is. And right now, I don't know if OKC understands, but their moment is now.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Absolutely. Their moment started last year. you go out, you had that great regular season, your clock starts now. You're no longer the team that's just building through the draft. You've arrived. It is now time for you to take that next step. And I'm not
Starting point is 00:48:00 sure that they quite understand everything that that entails. You know, they understand the play. Them boys special. Like, they get out there. But it's another level. It's another level to, they got to get
Starting point is 00:48:16 two more levels. to get to the championship. Absolutely. So it's, it's when I'm watching that and I, and, you know, I'm in your conference and we're about to play in the playoffs. If I, if I think you soft, I'm not, there is, there's no fear. Yes, I'm not anxious. I'm not, I'm like, oh, bro, I'm going right at these dudes. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:48:44 And so, you know, all that, like, the, like, the, Fun and games is fun. Like it's dope seeing them, but there's also like, they got to mature a little bit and become more professional so the stars can be the stars. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:00 Exactly. And let the stars do the interviews be the stars. You know what I mean? And like, let's start getting this pecking order right. Because when the playoffs come, you know, and everybody, buddy, buddy, and everybody in panic mode, I mean, anybody is shoot the shot.
Starting point is 00:49:16 You know what I mean? 100%. That's how they got bottled up. That's how they got bottled up last year. Exactly. And you got to think about it like, even like you said, the stars being stars,
Starting point is 00:49:28 Shea Gildj is Alexander. Shea is on the verge of becoming like a superstar. I don't quite personally think he's a superstar yet because superstar to me is worldwide. Everybody know you. And to me, there's only a few superstars in the NBA. But Shea has superstar level talent.
Starting point is 00:49:48 However, just because you have superstar level talent doesn't always make you a superstar. And for Shay Gilgis Alexander to take that next step, there are certain things that superstar does. Like, for instance, like I said, the interview, Shea, people want to hear what you got to say. They want to hear you speak. They want to hear your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Exactly. And they don't want to hear. with seven guys in the back, they don't want to hear that because they're not actually getting to experience who Shea Gilgis Alexander is. And that's what the world want.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And by the way, like I said, that goes hand to hand with taking that next step and becoming Shea Gilgis Alexander. Not Shea Gilgis Alexander who all the players look at and be like, yo, he's nice. But Shee Gilgis Alexander
Starting point is 00:50:42 that all the players look at and be like, I'm not looking for it. to facing him today. Like, everybody know going into the game that Shay going to get you 30. But now it's time to instill that fear and all of that
Starting point is 00:50:57 goes into that. And by the way, I know Shay got that killer and got that dog in the, if you ever meet his pops, he ain't got no choice but to have that dog in it. He got to get that to his team. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. He got to give all that
Starting point is 00:51:12 is him to his team. And he got to of like, hey man, like all these games and shit and playing around like that shit cool. But like, yo, come on guys. You know what I mean? Like I remember my second year in the league, Sacramento, Chris Weber. They came to Charlotte, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:32 And they was tripping and Chris Weber was like, yo, it was the second game of the season. He was like, yo, we did not come in this season to be bullshit. We're trying to get a championship. Lock in. I was like, yeah. game two. They're talking about
Starting point is 00:51:47 having shit. You know what I mean? They're talking about they on a mission. That's where it starts. And so like, and that's the year you see Sacramento take that leap because it's like, man, you've got to put yourself from the beginning of this season in that mode. I don't want no friends, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:04 If you don't. They have no friends. You got to be the business. You know what I mean? People don't understand this. Championships are not won in April, May, June. That's actually. the whole thing with the Joelle and V thing.
Starting point is 00:52:21 It's like championship. A championship is a process. No pun intended. A championship is the process. It is a process. It is a process from day one. And every day practice games, you're chipping away at that. And you chip away and chip away.
Starting point is 00:52:37 You have a setback. Chip away, chip away, chip away, chip away, take two steps back. Chip away, chip away, chip away. It's an everyday process over the course of nine months. It's not just get to April healthy, get the May healthy and we're good. Nah, you building every single day.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And that's what those guys got to understand. That there's just got to be a certain seriousness. And it was cool when y'all were the new guys on the block last year coming out winning 50-plus games. Now you're expected to do that. We expect y'all to win these regular season games. We don't need seven guys in the press conference anymore. We need Shea Gilder's Alexander.
Starting point is 00:53:16 And then Lou Dork is going to have a great game. they ain't going to want to say that night, they're going to want to hear from Lou Dort because he clamped somebody and he had 20, and we need Lou Dord in that interview. And that's the type of seriousness that this group I think is going to need in order to take that next step. Because what they must understand is you got a year or two to take the next step. If you don't, you start pulling pieces out and you start plugging other guys in and you pull this guy out. And all of a sudden, She going to be making $300 million and check going to be making $300 million. can they also afford to pay Jalen Williams $300 million? Then you start to run into those issues.
Starting point is 00:53:53 So you got to take advantage of it as soon as your window open because as fast as that window open, it closes even faster. Yeah, I mean, and that's, you're crazy if you don't take that moment right now. You know what I mean? Because you got to be, you also got to be aware and have a great deal of respect for who in front of you, who next to you, and who coming behind you, bro. You know what I mean? because it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:19 every year, it's like, you don't know, you know what I mean? But okay, C, need to mature. If they mature this year and take that leap all of them and get serious and get serious about, hey, man, we won this game,
Starting point is 00:54:35 let's get to the next one. You know what I mean? They're going to be all right. One thousand percent. Like, speaking of some of the teams, though, I saw, uh,
Starting point is 00:54:47 In an interview, my boy Janice. Now, my son loves Janice, bro. And he was talking about how the bucks need to find their identity. Like, that's a big word in sports. That's almost like a bad word in sports. A good word or a bad word. They just fell to one in three. And when it comes to team finding an identity,
Starting point is 00:55:12 like who sets the precedents? Players or coaches? It starts with coaches. The coaches have to come in with a certain swagger, with a certain confidence, with a certain seriousness, to A, let guys know what their roles are. I think on any great team, coaches come in and they define. And it's not, all right, Jemont, your role is boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Steph, your role is boom, boom, boom. Clay your role, or not Clay. It's a natural thing. BP, your role is boom, boom, boom. It's like, no, you come in and they start establishing this is what we need. These are the roles to fill. You're going to, you know, we need you in this spot, da, da, da, da. And you start to figure out your identity and what's first your roles.
Starting point is 00:56:05 You discuss what it is that we want our identity to be, right? So we want our identity to be X. We want our identity to be a great defensive team. We want our identity be a fast-paced offensive team. Push the ball, get up and down. That's what we want our identity to be. So from day one, that's what we're trying to build, right? And so it starts with coaches.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Then it moves to your best players. What are y'all doing on a day-to-day basis to make sure that you're bringing X so that everyone else know they've got to bring Y and Z? Because if the top players are bringing X, everybody else, you have to bring YIS here, you're no good here. And so then it starts with players. And I'm going to tell you this, one thing that Coach Zizzo used to teach us,
Starting point is 00:56:58 and he would always say, it's a saying he would always say, he said, a player coach team is better than the coach coached team. And that was his motto. When we had a leader that was coaching up the team and holding guys responsible on the court, that things that Isol didn't have to do because he had a leader doing that. It makes his life easier.
Starting point is 00:57:22 It makes your players. It make your players relationship with him better. And all of these things, right? And the things that he have to focus on changes. It allows him to expand his bandwidth because he doesn't have to focus on that. And so as much as it is, coaches have to establish it.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Yeah. It then falls on the players. Who are you going to breathe? What are you bringing to the table? What type of intensity are you coming to the table with each and every game? And then what is important? Is winning important to us? Because if winning is important to us,
Starting point is 00:58:01 then we'll do the things that we've identified that we want our identity to be. If winning is not the most important thing to us, we usually become a team that is not sure what their identity are. and you don't know from night to night what team is going to show up. And those teams can't win in the NBA. And I've been on a lot of those teams, right? And for real, I've been on a lot of those teams.
Starting point is 00:58:25 And like, the thing is, man, it's like, there's no trust or communication. You know what I mean? And so when I look at Milwaukee, you don't trust the system, right? There is no system that's putting you in a position to where your game, you feel like you're a game, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:56 Everybody's stuck in the corner. You know what I mean? That's a fact. That's a fact. If Janice and Dame Lillard are stuck in the corner are stuck in a separate corner and they're not communicating, right? Then now you've got to go to the coach as the guys
Starting point is 00:59:13 talk to the coes. You know, now, now it's therapy, right? And it ain't basketball. You ain't figuring it out. You ain't figuring it out together. And the team that don't communicate, right? Like, like the bucks need a little bit of what I, OKC got. Because they're too serious.
Starting point is 00:59:34 You know what I mean? They're almost two goddamn serious. It's a balance. It's a unique balance. It's a balance you got to find. And because Janus is won a championship, right? he is like that's his determination and so people are not up to that level or can't get there or a coach can't bring them to that level then that's where you have identity issues but i'll
Starting point is 01:00:03 excuse me i would always say even the boston team with kg and paul and ray allen i mean they got one you know what I mean? And I would say for a team like that with all that talent in that era, how they put that together, you know what I mean? They were beatable. You know what I mean? Like Doc,
Starting point is 01:00:28 the way he puts this team together, the way he coaches his teams, his teams are extremely talented, but the way the system is, is you're playing against the system. So you can beat them. You can beat them.
Starting point is 01:00:42 playing Doc system. And so it's got to be a little bit of Doc got to figure it out. Yonis and Dame got to figure it out. But everybody else on the team got to say, hey, man, we ballers. This is what we like to do. And then you got to go and try
Starting point is 01:00:58 and force that in the game, right? Can't be sitting back at 1 and 3 saying, man, we don't know what I. All right, then you got to go establish one now and almost go kamikaze until you get in flow. Because it sounds like they ain't been in flow.
Starting point is 01:01:12 from last year, they have a good training camp, it sounded like, they ain't coming into the season, and it's still like a major disconnection between your top three people, your coach and your two superstars. So I'll ask you this question, because I actually came across this earlier today, and I haven't thought none of it until we just started talking about the bucks.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I came across a clip earlier today, and Gil was talking about Dane, And he pretty much said he doesn't think Dame has figured out how to pick and choose his spots when he should be looking to score. Gills, and he compared it to himself in Washington when he had Twan Walker and, or no, Tuan Jameson. Carran, Larry Hughes. Karan, but, yes. He had a whip. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:02:05 And so he compared it to himself. And he said, listen, I would just pass to those guys to start to gain. let them drive. Karan getting to the cup, getting filed. Why, I'm just drawing a black. Larry Hughes, Antoine Jameson. Antoine Jameson getting to the hole, getting filed. And I let them get the files up now.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Once they start getting the team to like three and four files, I know you have to guard me differently is what he said. Because I know you have to guard me differently because we're in a bonus. And so now I can really attack you. now I can take advantage of my skill. And so Gil made the comparison. He was like, he don't think Dame is letting Janus go, go, go, and then pick and choose in his spots.
Starting point is 01:02:54 He said he'd think dames come out, take three or four tough shots, and then if you miss them. Yeah. And then it's kind of tough from there. What are your thoughts on that? I can't necessarily speak to that. I'm not a point guard or I was never a scoring guard. What are you, what are your thoughts to that?
Starting point is 01:03:10 I totally agree. I think Dave is super talent. He's super elite. And for the majority of his career, he had to come out and damn near put up 40 for them to have a chance to win, right? When he play with Lamarcus Aldris, give it to Lamarcus Aldrin's let him anchor.
Starting point is 01:03:34 I think he got to start going back to that mentality. Like, okay, guy, Janice, let me low Yonis up. Let me get these dudes going, right? And not that you not, it's not yourself, but it's not your points. You know what I mean? Like, you started a game hitting three, four, five, three pointers in the first quarter, like that's not going to help the Bucks win. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:06 Like, if it was Portland, oh yeah he about to go off everybody is going to rise to that level because he's elevated in in Milwaukee Bucksland that's like keeping you in the game the way they play you know what I mean so he got to learn how to finesse the situation so it opens up for him right and so be be dame time right script like write a script for yourself right, go home, write a script for yourself. Every game, write a script. This is what Yon is going to give me.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Boom, this is what Port is going to give me. This is what I'm getting from Lopez. This is what I need in this game. And then four minutes, six, we have six. It's damn time. And so you start making your points matter based on, oh, damn, we down six. Let me go get to the line. Boom.
Starting point is 01:05:03 We have six. Let me take two of these just to see if I can put some, distance, right? And so I think it's more so Dame trying to once again, it's the system. Dame trying to figure out how to do Dame time and Yonis trying to figure out how to do Yonis time.
Starting point is 01:05:23 And so if you remember with the Clippers, you had Chris Paul and Blake Griffin. And they played two different styles. And that's why the Clippers can never beat you guys. You know what I mean? They could be, they be San Antonio because Blake played well, Chris Paul play well,
Starting point is 01:05:44 but together, you know what I mean? There wasn't like, they didn't dominate the game. They actually like allowed you to stay in the game because one player was balling, the other player was balling, but if they were ever balling in sync,
Starting point is 01:05:58 they were going to blow your ass out. You know what I mean? And I think that's where Milwaukee is kind of handicapped because there's no, there's no connective tissue for like yin and yank there's no yin and yank you know what i'm saying yeah no for sure well number one under no circumstance where the clippers ever going to blow it's how but i get what you say uh number two when i when i played did i play against you before you was old and why
Starting point is 01:06:30 i was the clippers up uh huh i like 22 in the third quarter came back to go to state I was watched, though. So check this, though. Check this. So if you say Dan, Janus is the one that has won the championship. Dame is still kind of figuring out his way there. At what point does the onus fall on Janus to maybe get Dame goal? Because Dame could also make life easier on him.
Starting point is 01:07:07 So where is it or is it just on? It's the system, bro. You feel what I'm saying? Because if you look at Janus in this system, he don't play like Janus. You dig what I'm saying? Like, he's not pushing it. He's not taking it, you know, taking it on the wing and saying, hold on. Like, I ask for forgiveness later.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Right? So he's kind of lost a little bit of who he is and how he could help dang, right? Or like it's almost like they're trying to help each other so much that they're overworking without working together. You know what I mean? And then when you go into the system, like identity is a system thing. Because if Yon is saying, we got an identity problem, that means somebody don't know who the man around here. And then somebody don't know who the man. when the man is supposed to be around here.
Starting point is 01:08:12 You know what I mean? And so everybody's uncomfortable. You know what I'm saying? And so that system, the way they play, there are only two playmakers on that team. Janice and Dame Lillard. And Dame Lillard is a scoring playmaker. Yonis is a scoring playmaker, a defensive playmaker.
Starting point is 01:08:36 That's true. Neither one of those guys are assist guys. they don't set they're not they they weren't molded to be great to set people up their greatness is in
Starting point is 01:08:48 their points you know what I mean and their pressure that they put on defense from an offensive standpoint yeah it's on both ends of the floor you feel what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:08:59 so like dame is not going to be Jew holiday for the Milwaukee bucks Milwaukee bucks got to go find somebody that can do that
Starting point is 01:09:14 so Dane can be a better version of whoever was the two guard when they won it. You know what I mean? For sure. So does Chris Middleton, whenever he get back from injury, does he change that or do you still have the same issue?
Starting point is 01:09:31 Well, one, I want to see Chris healthy because, you know, he's another score, right? And so if you ask him Chris Middleton to come back and be the Chris Middleton he was during the finals, then you're a fool. You know what I mean? Because he was bringing a ball up. He was playmaking.
Starting point is 01:09:51 They need somebody that can break down the defense or need somebody that can look for people. You know what I mean? And you know who they need? They need Ben Simmons. I was just about to say, ideally, who do you think they need Ben Simmons, bro? You think, so you think Ben Simmons is. is the answer to the Milwaukee Hell yeah, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Hell yeah. Okay. All right. But I don't think the system is going to work. I think, you know, they have something good with Agent Griffin, whatever, like, bro, you know how to drama go? When it's drama, that's all drama and soap opera.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Milwaukee has found themselves in the basketball soap opera of, oh, you used to be good. now you're about to go through some shit now you got to figure it out now you're going to unravel it and you don't want to piss off Janus because he can leave
Starting point is 01:10:47 piece it back together so might I remind you that Doc Rivers was the coach of the Ben Simmons fallout in Philly I know so I don't know Ben Simmons is necessarily going to be the guy Doc Rivers
Starting point is 01:11:02 They did and Bill Doc Rivers is not the guy bro because he will put you in a system that only he knows how to coach it. So, so you, so that's what you're saying the problem is it's not Dame, it's not Yannes. It's, it's, it's the system.
Starting point is 01:11:17 It's neither one of them. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's the system and the way you built the team. And so you built the team around two guys that are incredible basketball players, right? But you have nobody in the middle that's bringing them to a point. of their ultimate capacity.
Starting point is 01:11:43 If Dame is going, Yonis ain't going. If Yonis is going, Dame ain't going. Why the fuck aren't they both going at the same time? They're deadly in a pick and roll together. Of course. Who's on the opposite side? Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:12:01 What's happening on the opposite side? Who else is chiming in? Who else is making a play for Dame or a play for Yonis? So when Janice make a play for Dame and he wide open, it's like, damn, I'm wide open. I ain't never been wide open. And my entire, Dame Lillard has never been wide open in his entire career,
Starting point is 01:12:18 unless he made himself wide open. You feel what I'm saying? So like, it's new to him too. But they got to get that connective tissue. And I think you got to change the system, right? Y'all got a fast break. Y'all got to get back to playing defense. Right?
Starting point is 01:12:37 but you got to let, you got to let Damianas figure the shit out and get out the way sometimes as a coach. Because you still don't get wins based on the, they talent. Bags. Bats. I respect it.
Starting point is 01:12:55 All right. So, I'm sorry, Doc, but, you know, I ain't no real. I'm just, you know, when I'm looking at coaching, I'm like, yo,
Starting point is 01:13:04 a Doc Rivers team is a beatable team. I don't go. will fuck how much talent they got because they only play in patterns. Cool pattern. Okay. I respect it. So speaking of Ben Simmons,
Starting point is 01:13:17 did you see the fan yesterday when Ben Simmons is walking past tell him he's trashed to his face? Oh, that was crazy, bro. In Orlando. So in Orlando, you walk to the locker room and they had this guard railed up
Starting point is 01:13:34 and you're walking right next to a bunch of fans, which number one is ridiculous. They, They allow fans to line up right there when you're going in the locker room when you're coming out, people are standing there screaming and trying to get autographs.
Starting point is 01:13:47 An NBA locker room is the most non-private place. Oh my gosh. In the building. Like there's no privacy. You're getting dressed. There's people in the locker room. You're doing media.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Like you're getting prepped before the game. There's people in the locker room. As soon as the coaches break the huddle after the game, there's people in the locker room. It has to be, the most insane non-sanity, or however you want to frame it,
Starting point is 01:14:17 place in an NBA locker room. I mean, in the NBA arena. It's just like open season. Like you go and you do what you want. There's a million people in Orlando next to, like, but then if we say something back, we get in trouble. We get in trouble.
Starting point is 01:14:37 We get fun. But this kid who's standing there with his dad is going to say in my face, I'm trash. He don't know what it takes to make it to the NBA. You really want to beat his dad up for letting him talk like that, control your kid. But yet, it's just like, oh, respect the game. Fans can, like, they pretty much say what they want to you and you just have to take it.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And just the empowerment of fans to say what they want to say to us. as if we're not human beings. We just got to hit them back. He called them trash. We just got to, like, bring your mama back. You know what I mean? Like, your mama, your daddy. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:21 You know, would you tell you? I slap your daddy. Shut up. Or have one of those little lappy, those little things. Wow! Get out. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:15:37 That's crazy, yo. I thought that was wild, but I thought, you know, Shorter came back to his defense. Ben kind of said, why you ain't said it in my face? But, you know, I just think that's always been an ongoing issue. They still ain't figured it out. Yeah. Probably never going to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:15:58 It's just something that we have to deal with. Oh, that's... And it is what it is. It is. Bro, Donald Sterling. Before we get out of here, though. Hey, bro, Donald Sterling. Oh, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:16:07 I'm sorry. I play with the Clippers, bro. We won a game. And he came in there with, like, no lie, like, eight old-ass ladies. They had to be like late 50, 60s. I mean, they looked like they was 70-80. And he came in with an entourage, bro. I bullshit you not.
Starting point is 01:16:28 And coached just finished. And he said, hey, ladies, you know, meet the guys. And I'm sitting right at the door. And he was like, man, you can sit in. you can sit right here and talk to him wait till he take his towel off whoa chill and the old lady was just sitting here
Starting point is 01:16:46 and ask me all kind of questions bro I'm sitting there with my towel like bro I'm not about to I'm about to wait this old lady out I'm not about to get up bro it was hey bro it was diabolical she was waiting for you to take the towel
Starting point is 01:17:02 locker room it was crazy bro he was like way he was like way for him that's nuts I'll tell you what though I'm gonna tell you what all this is gonna take
Starting point is 01:17:18 is for somebody to get sued in this climate you got so many people in the locker room people can say anything guess what you're even if you ain't guilty you're guilty by public perception and we live in a world where you're guilty until proven innocent
Starting point is 01:17:34 and once you're proven innocent, nobody's going to talk about it. But before you're proven innocent, you're going to get talked about like a dog, like you're guilty. And all it's going to take is for someone to sue and say X, Y, and Z. But it's just unfair to players
Starting point is 01:17:52 that you have to be put in that situation. You can't say nothing in the locker room no more, right? So, like, even if you were, even if it was a team inside joke, after the game and you yell something, right? And people can take anything now out of context. You know what I mean? It's just, man, this shit is crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Like, they got to be some type of, like, privacy for, like, the players and the team to have a moment before people rushing in. Even for some players, like, say you did something wrong or say something happened in the game, like, get that dude a moment, you know what I mean? And maybe talk to the team. You know, talk to the players and be like, hey, bro, don't do that. You know what I mean? Don't crash out.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Facts. But the media will be trying to, now, they're trying to, they be trying to make you crash out on them. No, for sure. For sure. Yeah, it's a media lounge. There may be. But right after the coast, the media come right in. So you got about five minutes.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Maybe. Exactly. Three to five minutes. And the head of the PR, the PR guy going to come in. They're like, all right, we open for media, and they're in the locker room, literally, three to five minutes after the coach walk out. No time. And that's what guys are left dealing with it's like. So, by the way, three to five minutes, if it was a rough end into the game, you ain't even had time to like take a deep breath.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Coach just talked. Right. You may say something to the guy next to you before, look at your phone before you know it. It's over. People in your face. It's over. Right in your face. And it's something that guys have complained about for years.
Starting point is 01:19:53 It's something that went away during COVID, and you thought it was one of those things like marijuana that went away during COVID. They're testing for marijuana. They don't test you. You thought it would be one of those things? No, that's what I'm saying. They stopped testing for that during COVID. They also stopped letting. media members in
Starting point is 01:20:15 for pretty much a year and a half where you didn't have media in the locker conference, yeah. Yes, and everybody was like, yo, this is great and thought like that would be the end of it and then it came back and I just don't understand. I don't know why they got to be in the locker room.
Starting point is 01:20:32 They just hanging out. I don't talk to media before the game. I don't talk to them before the game anyway. So why are you in here? He got whispering shit. You know what I mean? Turn the music down. We had to ease dropper. before.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Yeah. We had an eavesdropper before that when KD was on our team we were having a conversation in the locker room. I'll never forget it. It was in Utah. And the guy tweeted
Starting point is 01:20:56 like a conversation we was having. And I was just like, yo, like you can't, like we're not talking to you. We're having a conversation amongst each other and you eavesdrop on our conversation
Starting point is 01:21:09 and then go tweet it. Yeah. Back on. But, you know, you always talk about like the protection of the players. There is no. It's afraid of players. And it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:21:21 You don't, and yet nothing gets accomplished by media being in the locker room before the game. Guess what? The media come in the locker room after the game and then Raymond would say, all right, I'm taking Draymond up to the media room. What's the point? Help me understand that. Why did they come in here when I was just sitting in my locker? Help me understand that.
Starting point is 01:21:44 And so I don't know, man. It's one of those ridiculous things that you would have been. I'm not even going to say need to go away because you would have thought, let's keep it. Maybe if we say, yeah, everybody keep it, get rid of it. Because it should have been gone a long time. I think they should get rid of it because it creates more of a mistake. You're not getting dudes with cameras, with towels on,
Starting point is 01:22:06 they shirt off. You like get them at the podium dressed up. It just creates more of a vibe for what the league. It's trying to do with fashion and personality and shit like that instead of the mistake of, you know, somebody with a camera in the locker. And like, I'm getting dressed. Somebody getting an interview. I'm in the back.
Starting point is 01:22:28 You know what I mean? And so, like, it just cut out all the confusion. It's really uncomfortable. It's really uncomfortable in the locker room. You have men, you have women, and I'm trying to get in the shower. It is a very, very, very uncomfortable. The shower is supposed to be a private thing. It's a very uncomfortable space walking around in a towel
Starting point is 01:22:51 with a bunch of people that just come in when you're... Yeah, you know what they're in there for. It's very uncomfortable. Yeah, I can do that. Perfect. Okay. Man, man, we're speaking in, you know, locker room and neck it in the locker room. Right now, my boys, the Dodgers up 3-0.
Starting point is 01:23:42 in New York. The Yankees, the media of us in the Yankee locker room. I'm a Yankee fan. Sorry for that. I'm a Yankee fan. And however, you know, my guy,
Starting point is 01:24:03 Peter Goober is an owner of Dodgers. So I'm not upset. I want to see Peter do well. How can you be a Yankee fan? Magic. How can you be a Yankee fan? Magic. And not. Because I've been a Yankee fan since I was a key. How can you not be upset?
Starting point is 01:24:15 Then how can you not be upset? I am upset. I want to win. No. I want to win, but you know, I'm happy for Peter. I don't know. I'm happy for Peter. But the series isn't over yet.
Starting point is 01:24:26 We're not going to do that. You can't be happy. What you're not doing that. Oh, look at you. I'm happy for Peter. I didn't say I was happy for the doctors. Hey, bro. I said I'm happy.
Starting point is 01:24:35 We don't want you to be happy for us. It does not. You are a New York Yankee fan. It does not feel good. When we win that you guys are like, oh, you guys beat us. We're like, no, we want you to hate us. That is the problem with the Yankees. Fortunately, we got, we got 28 World Series games, bro.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I don't know what more you want. Nice, nice guys. We have 28. Y'all just made y'all 23rd appearance. We got 28 of them. That's okay. We on the way. We on the way, though.
Starting point is 01:25:09 We on the way. Otani, 10 years. years. Hello? Hello? Those contracts are bad after three years. No, no, no. His whole contract is deferred. After three years. Yep. After three years, y'all going to be paying him. We're going to be going to be paying him. We pay him a ton of three million a year. It's a shame they let show like that. Hey, bro, that's smart. That's smart business, bro. You would do it. You would do it. You it? Y'all about to,
Starting point is 01:25:44 y'all, it went wrong for it in game one, man. We should, we took game one, it changes the series. We let it get away. What? What happened? And now y'all feeling good. Oh, you know what happened in game one. Did you not watch?
Starting point is 01:25:58 Because you probably didn't believe. You weren't believing at that point. No, no, no. So you weren't watching. And then you hop on the bandwagon. You probably are an Angels fan anyway, and now you want to act like you're a Dodger fan. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:26:09 You are an angel fan. Stop front. Oh. You're an angel fan. You're a Yankee fan from Michigan. Yeah. Absolutely. That don't count.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Absolutely. That don't count. Why not? You know who my favorite Dodger is? Fernando Venezuela. Come on. You know who my favorite Yankee is? Outside of the captain.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Outside of the captain and Mo Rivera. My favorite Yankee growing up was Daryl Strawberry. and Chuck Knoblo. And where Daryl Strawberry from? Chris Shaw High, L.A. He wanted to be a doctor. What I got to do with me? He wanted to be in.
Starting point is 01:26:52 It's that Dodger Essence. We birthed him. Shout out to Chris Shaw High, but he went over there to win championships. The Dodgers wasn't winning those championships then. He went over there. We birthed Darrell Straffery. He went over there to win championship.
Starting point is 01:27:04 He was a Dodger. Shout out to Chris Shaw High, but he went to, he went to over there. The essence of the Dodgers. He went over there. He went over there. Frady Freeman. He went over there.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Oh my God. Oh my God. Hey, bro, I'm in Irwan. I did five laps around the ear wand. And now he want to come alive. He has zero home runs and one RBI at a time. Ready free. And then he want to look up.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Man, stop. Grand slam. You heard it here first. The Yankees coming back because guys who don't win championships get excited before the series is over. And now the Yankees coming back. And we're about to take this World Series. You heard it here first.
Starting point is 01:27:43 That's a wrap from your time. too guys. Appreciate you all tuning there. Check us out later this week. Peace. The volume.

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