The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show w/ Baron Davis: Draymond Green on Klay Thompson’s return in Mavericks-Warriors & Steph Curry's HUGE 4th quarter

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

Draymond Green reacts to Klay Thompson’s first game against the Golden State Warriors as a member of the Dallas Mavericks, Steph Curry's mindset going into the NBA In-Season Tournament game, and the key block that helped seal the NBA Cup game for the Warriors against Luka Doncic’s squad. Draymond and Baron reflect on the Warriors' strong 4-1 road trip and analyze Golden State’s games with the Boston Celtics and Cleveland Cavaliers. They also talk about what’s wrong with the Philadelphia 76ers, Jaylen Brown calling Giannis Antetokounmpo “a child” after the Milwaukee Bucks star’s fake handshake in their loss to the Boston Celtics, and which teams might need to hit the panic button as the NBA season progresses. 4:00 - Start 5:00 - Warriors win in Klay's return 23:00- NBA In-Season Tournament MATTERS 30:30 - Facing Grizzlies without Ja Morant 45:30 - Warriors' 4-1 road trip 01:02:45 - Cleveland Cavaliers are HOT 01:07:45 - Season over for 76ers & Embiid? 01:12:45 - Knicks need to panic? 01:18:30 - Jaylen Brown calls Giannis "a child" (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Before we get into this episode, make sure to subscribe to the Draymond Green Show with Barron Davis so you don't miss any episodes. Follow the show on Twitter. That's at Draymond Show, so you don't miss any of our announcements. In today's episode, we'll discuss Clay's return to Golden State, the 4-1 road record, fake handshakes, and which team needs to be in panic mode. Clay return. You know, it was a big hype around Clay. the Warriors game, everybody in attendance, a captain's hat for Clay's return. I think that was a great tribute, a great tribute video, which he well deserved.

But y'all got the dub, right? Steph got hot in the fourth. I know you and Clay and like, man, let's kick that off. What was that like? Man, Steph was on 10 the whole time. And you knew it right away when they tried to pull. posts him up, very first play, and he filed clay. And that's one of the ones where, like, he knew it right away that it was a bad foul.

He didn't care. He didn't think anything of it. He was so overzealous to get to stop. And so that play, you know, like, all right, it's a little, you know what I'm saying? It's a little testy. The very next play, they try to run the same play again. And my man's in the corner. So I try to bump him out to Najee Marshall, like, yo, bump.

bump, I'm here, so I can switch and guard the post. He totally ignored me. So I run all the way over there to bump. He didn't, he didn't get the script. He didn't get the script. I have to run all the way back to the other side of the to guard my man, because he won't bump out. And sure enough, you know, he'd get the next couple stops.

And he dialed in, man. And I knew, you know, I knew he'd be dialed in. I'm going to keep a G with you. I watched Clay's interview leading up to it, all of them. I read all the quotes. I watched any interview I could find. And I watched stuff interviews leading up to it. Now, mind you, when they asked me the other day at OKC,

I totally ignored the question. I'm like, we got an NBA Cup game. And that's what Thursday is about. I mean, not Thursday. That's what, whatever day the weekend is on. Monday. Monday, Tuesday. It's the NBA season.

It's ground on. The next game. Absolutely. And so I'm like, like, that's what it is. And I completely ignored the question. And then I saw Steph's answer. And I saw Clay's answer. And then I saw Steph answer.

And it was a little sentimental. And I'm like, all right. And then I see Steph speak somewhere different. And it was a little more sentimental. And I go look at Clay's stuff. And I'm like, all right. So finally, yesterday morning. I text them.

And I text them like, hey, listen here, big dog, I need you to be locked in. Whatever it is that you do, whatever it is that you need to do, if that's watched this tribute video, before we actually see it go up on the board, whatever it is that you need to do

to make sure that your emotions are where they need to be. So we dialed in. I said, I'm going to do the same. And so I hit double off, bring me rid of it. and I said, Ray, I need to see that tribute video. And Ray sent it to me.

And I watched the tribute video, and I was like, so I got it out. Yeah. And Steph got up. So by the time, Steph coming to the game last night, he pissed. I didn't call it. As soon as I texted, he called me right away. So I tried to stir the pot a little bit, baby. I'm starting to buy.

As you should. Ain't no, all my splash brother, nah. I'm stirring the pot. We're the ops. We the ops. Hey, so I put stuff off. He's like, yeah, I talked to Clay last night about, he was like, because Steph was supposed to speak before the game.

He's like, yeah, I call Raymond and told him I'm not speaking. Like, I just need to lock in on the game, so I ain't even speaking. And I talked to Clay about it. Try to check out on Clay on something else. And Clay ghosted him. So he got pissed. And here we go. Here we go.

That's why he was on 10. That's why at the end of the game. Ooh. Hey, bro, that ended the game. He was, that was almost like the Olympic shot. You feel me? Like he was on, even after the game, after y'all shook hands, it was like, what was that feeling like? Because, you know, there's so much emotions, bro.

That, you know, Clay is, is, is, is legacy. brother almighty you know what I mean Hall of Famer and that your connection you know what I mean that's the first time you know we we've been able to see the not connection you know what I mean you know it's crazy Steph said to me right away he was like

yo you know we had Andre when he left and he came back and like you know KD's kind of never really materialized like it was so many years in between him playing actually coming back and play here from when he left that it was kind of never really you know that he was like but we ain't had nothing like this yeah i'm like you right you know what saying so that moment bro it was such an incredible feeling because we've done special things together and clay included like there's nothing else without clay it's crazy because i was talking to

Tribe last night and Tribe was like, yo, you and stuff was locked in so crazy. He was like, but it's nuts because Clay was locked in too. He said when I saw how all three of y'all were able to lock in on that game,

that's how y'all know how y'all won that championship, right? He said it makes so much sense. He said these people had to deal with three of y'all like that. Yeah, yeah. He said it it makes so much sense when I watch how all three of y'all was locked in. It's levels to it.

Absolutely. And saying that, so knowing that and understanding that, like the night couldn't have gone better and it couldn't have been a better feeling for us. You know, it's us too still holding it down. Yeah. Still holding the fort down. Oh, geez.

Holding the black down. You know what I'm saying? And to know, you know, like, hey, he ain't with us no more. That felt good. And so like I said, it could not have, the night could not have gone any better. When you talk about NBA script writers

as the people say on Twitter and Instagram. No, that was a perfect setup. That script, Clay Thompson played great, incredible. And they lost. That's how we needed to deny the game. That's how the script. When Steph had those moments, though, when he, like, locked into the moment and he gets talking this shit.

He's going to start, boop. He going to start, because Steph came out talking shit. Then Clay hit him with the shimmy. Then Clay called fire. And then you see Steph over there, he hot. You know what I mean? You know, and then I'm, and back to the intensity, like, Clay's intensity up Dallas level. I don't even think the Mavericks seen something like that.

You know what I mean? And so, like, watching how you and how you and Steph were on this side, you know, Moody got off. You know what I mean? Moody was bawling. You know, Buddy was balling. Melton was bawling. Melton was bawling. Looney played big.

You feel what I'm saying? Like, offensive rebounds in 14 minutes. It's crazy. Come on, dude. Come on, dude. That's the UCLA brewing right there. And then my dog, my dog, defensive player of the year, we on that track. Let's talk about these stats.

11.7 rebounds. Six assists. three steals, two blocks. Even Steph, he talked about it after the game. He said, man, you put on a master class on the defensive end. I would agree to that, especially the block on Daniel Gaffert. That saved a big shot. You know what I mean?

You was just use the plug. You know what I mean? You used the plug all night. Man, just talk about it. I want to like, what was it? You know what I mean? Like, you're starting to look, you're starting to look and feel young again, bro. What is it?

I feel incredible, bro. I'm in the best shape I've been in in years. I'm as focused as I've been in years. Like, I'm so dialed in on these moments, man. Like, just enjoy it. Just enjoying playing the game. You know what I'm saying? Just enjoying going out there and grind it.

Knowing that we've been counted out. We're the underdogs. Like, it feels good to be the underdog. dog again. My whole life I was an underdog. Being all this high and mighty shit ain't ain't what I'm a customer to. Like, I've been an

underdog my whole life. And so just being back in that role, like I feel that. You know what I'm in that space. I feel that. I'm locked in. And you know, I had to have a conversation with myself this summer. Just, you know,

the last couple years I've been kind of like, oh, you know what I'm saying? Like, I know the commentating stuff is around the corner like, you know, I want to transition into some of that as I'm done. Yeah. You know, you start looking at all. And I'm like, man, I start focusing so much on that stuff. Yep.

So where basketball is kind of almost put on the back burner, I flipped that. You know what I'm saying? Like, and this summer I'm locked in and I'm like, you know what? I don't know if it's one years, if it's two years, there's three years, if it's fine. I don't know. But I actually don't care. Right.

What I do know is, whether it's, one, two, three, four, or five, I will be in tip-top shape for each and every last one of them. And I'm going to be dialed in on the task at hand and enjoying this game that we've been playing since kids. Totally. But it's opportunity that we wanted since kids.

Yep. That's where my mind is. And so to be, like, I got goals, but I really want that defensive player at a year. You know what I'm saying? Like, CP, CP being here last year and having 10 all defense teams in like eight first team,

I'm like, dang, man, I still got more to do. You know, I still got more to get. And that's how I'm feeling, bro. I'm locked in. And so,

you know, to get that block on Gafford in that moment, A, it was literally very reminiscent of Kyrie's drive and Kyrie had to drop off to him last year. Yeah. Same exact play.

This time it was Luca got to drop off. Come on. Like, but this. them the plays where down the stretch, Steph making them shots, like that's what he do. Me making them plays, that's what I did. Thank you.

Like that, you know, I got to do my part on that side so that he can do his part on the other side. Yeah. And that's why I'm at with it, bro. Man, you can just tell it's a different mentality. You know what I mean? And then just even talking, how we talk every day. it's like you choosing to make that a moment with Clay right that that's what you need you choosing to make that a Boston moment the okayC moment like it's almost like you re-energize and you plan like shit man if this is my last game they're gonna get Jemond Green they're gonna get the best version to Jemond Green at the league same and that and and that is what the team needs bro that is like and and and

And the points. You feel what I'm saying? You know how I am about these points. I like the 11. You feel? We got to get them points, too. You feel like it? But it was a big...

It's played me a totally different way. They are. Yeah. I can tell by the way they guard me, they're accounting for that now. And they're just like, oh, he made it, they're now like, oh, he's... They got to get there.

Yeah. So... Because you're getting shots in rhythm, and it's in offensive rhythm. and offensive flow. You know what I mean? And so them six assists, you know what I mean? That's another 12 points, you know,

18 points depending on how many threes. So that's what I'm saying. Like I like the aggression because now, like, you're a playmaker, dog. Always. You know what I mean? You always been a playmaker. So when you out there and I see you doing that

and looking for your shot and making plays, I'm like, okay, we, Yeah, we're going to have a good night. We're in good company. Yeah, no, for sure. And that's how I feel. That's where we're at. The Emirates NBA Cup is here.

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Like, when you walk out there on that court, the court's different, jerseys there, you automatically like something's different. Yeah. So it's like this, it's like this aura around and man, there's aura in the gym. As soon as we walked in last night, we walked out, I should say, we ran up. Loon said, man, they feel like Oracle. I said the dude felt like oracle. Like, it's just a different vibe around them in-season tournament games, bro. Oh, excuse me, NBA Cup.

Yeah, the NBA Cup. These NBA Cup games, man, and we saw it last year. And, like, if you had any doubt that, like, oh, the first, you know what I'm saying, In the first year, it was exciting, but if you had any doubt, look no further than last night. The Detroit Pistons winning on the last second shot. Come on, dude. That was wild. I was having to come back from down seven with under four minutes to go and winning that game in regulation.

The Boston Celtics losing to a Frey Young list. L.A. L.A. L.A. Box team in Boston. Right. Like Portland. destroyed Portland destroyed the Timberwoods beat them by 14.

Like these in season tournament games is different, man. You can't get cost of it. And it's like an NCAA tournament. Not that you won and done, but you feel like that because if you lose, once you lose, it's no longer in your control.

Right. Right. Now, if you can win out, you control everything. But if you lose, you're at the mercy of everybody else. Yeah, exactly. For the system.

And man, and so it's crazy because it started off as like this whole thing like, yo, we can go win $500,000. And it's crazy, BD. Nobody even mentions the money anymore. Right, right. It's just all about like, yo, we want to go win this thing. Yeah, we want to compete for this thing. Yeah.

And I think the NBA has done an incredible job of creating this NBA Cup. And I think as fans, when I say as fans, I am a fan of this game. For sure. As fans, we need to embrace this thing for what it is. It is an in-season championship. Yeah, yeah, it's cranky. Very much so. And by the way, it should be celebrated.

Just, it's something, see, it takes people a while to come around because it's something so new to you like, oh, that don't matter. but like the Lakers winning that last year, it should be celebrated. When you watch it, when you look at like basketball, the NBA is a global game, when you look at La Liga and, you know, even Euro League basketball,

all these different Cups that they matter. You know what I'm saying? That stuff matters. And so I'm hoping to see this continue to grow with fans for fans to celebrate this. Is it going to be an NBA championship? No, it'll never be an NBA championship. He's going to take you the whole season.

But it matters. But it matters, man. It matters so much. Because, like, you think about you don't get no rewards from training camp. You don't get no rewards for preseason. You don't get no rewards for start of the season. And everybody trying to play to be an all-star. You know what I'm saying?

So this kind of changed a lot of the mentality because now you got to be team. oriented. You look at a team like Indiana, right? They run, help them have that run in the playoffs. You know what I mean? That confidence. And so for a young team being able to snatch some wins,

get a, you know, and maybe even make it to the Cup or to the Final Four, man, you know how, like somebody like a Detroit and a Portland, you never know. They could get, this could, it's tricky times right now. You feel me? Anybody can get hot.

I remember when I was playing, like, the Houston Rockers won, like, 23 in a row. And nobody was expecting that. But, like, dude, if you get, you know, you beat the Timberwolves. You beat a Miami Heat as one of, you know, a Detroit or Portland. You can get hot. You know what I mean? And, like, especially for where you guys are right now, you know, it's like this underdog mentality. It's like, man, I want that cup.

If it's out there, you feel what I'm saying? If it's out there, bring it home. It's an opportunity to go get it. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. And that's how guys are looking at it, man. And just, again, the fan in me and just watching these NBA Cup games, I love that how it's at the beginning of the season.

Yep. I think in January, February or something like that, as this NBA Cup continue to become more and more successful. if they do like an intra-conference cup. You know what I'm saying? So like these Eastern conference teams are playing in some type of cup for a few weeks. Western conference teams playing against each other

in some type of cup for a few weeks, boom, then all-star break happened. Once you come out of all-star break, as you and I both know, now the eyes are set on the play. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's it. It's no January, February games, you know what I'm saying?

You can fall. Exactly. And that's a way. Yep. You make those games more meaningful. That's a way to, I would necessarily say compete because it's just a such different thing,

but that's a way. Is this so many games? Yeah. It's just a lot of games. It's more meaningful at that time. Yeah. You need the NBA Cup, you need the end-season tournament.

You need another cup, right? Because it's so many games, Like, you got to have different feeling and different emotion to, like, you know, up at a level. And, man, the training camp preseason, first part of the season, like, we see a lot of guys getting injured, you know. And it's like the season has been accelerated so fast that when you jump into it, it's like, damn, dude, you know, you may not be in the best shape. Or you know, it takes a while to get in basketball, NBA shape. game shape, and you're going to have these little knickknacks. And so something like this is just so important for the right team with the right mentality,

who got nothing to lose coming into the season. You know what I mean? And that shit can propel you going into All-Star being like, damn, like, all we got to do is win 20 out of 30 and we end, you know? And so it makes a big difference. You know, I know y'all have the Mavericks for the NBA Cup. game. That was the first one. The Grizzlies are next.

You know, followed by the last two teams in the group, the Pelicans who've been injured and the Nuggets. But the Grizzlies up next, obviously is no John Moran. You know, they have been bawling. Like, what is your take on that?

Like, how do you adjust? Like, talk to us about how do you, like, okay, John Moran is out, right? that means nothing, correct? It should mean nothing. But as you know, the only problem would it mean to nothing is we're human beings. Yes.

And as human beings, we have natural human reactions. Yeah. And so the natural reaction is John Moran's out, you put your guard down. Yeah. Do not do that. If you sit in a boxer ring and you put your guard down, you get knocked out. You're going to get hit. Yes.

And so this Grizzlies team, we played them a couple years ago in the NBA playoffs. In the game, John Morant missed, they beat us by 50. Yeah, they smacks you. They beat us by. They were 50 points in the second quarter. It wasn't like, oh, the game got out of hand later. They were a 50 points in the second quarter. Right?

Right. Because you naturally let your guard down. is the NBA, man, Santiago Adama is playing great basketball. Scottie Pippin Jr. is playing great basketball. He's playing phenomenal basketball. Jay Huff is playing great basketball, right?

Trip just getting back and starting to get his feet underneath him. But these guys are playing great basketball. And so the challenge is, A, you naturally let your guard down. Okay, this is in this season. NBA Cup game, got to lock in. You can focus on that, right? You can use that to lock in.

the challenge is though Scott Lee Pippin Jr. has been really good. He's going to be even better because he's going to be even more free. Exactly. Santi-Oadama's been really good. He's going to be even better because he's going to be more free. And so that three that you may be like, let me get this back to 12 and see what 12 could create.

Now, you just like, it's going up. You already know. It's a different mentality. Yeah. Exactly. So you're right. job and rent being out means nothing from the standpoint of we still need to come in with the mindset that we know we need to come in with regardless of who they got on the floor

where jaws out baines out smarts out whoever's out our mindset need to be what our mindset has to be and so it doesn't mean nothing in essence but on the flip side a number one I always love playing against job job brain when you play against job He'll bring out a different level that you have to get to in order to match his intensely level in order to match the swag that he comes away, he's going to bring out a different level in the real competitors.

And so I love playing job. And then also just seeing him get back. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, we all watched him go through some stuff and I know how it is when you go through stuff and everybody wants you out and doubts you. So also, just on a personal standpoint, just watch him get back.

prove everybody wrong, show everybody why he got the Nike sneaker, show everybody why he was the most exciting young guard that everybody was looking forward to a couple years ago. You know what I'm saying? And so you also just want to see that from that aspect. And then playing great games, man, like you want to play teams at full strength

because as a competitor, you want to compete at the highest level that you can compete at. And so that's kind of where we at with it, you know? But in saying that, who they put on the court is who we got it. Yeah, you got to be ready. Because them young boys, they like to eat, you know what I mean? They like to eat.

They don't care who on the floor. I like them. I think they will coach, you know, and they got a hell of a lot of talent, you know, and surprise talent to a lot of people. But, you know, they got, when you're in the league, bro, you just need a chance. You know what I mean?

Sometimes you just need a chance. You know what I'm saying? in the right situation. In the right situation. I can turn your whole career around. 100%. And speaking of it, Jai, who was the guy

like when you were coming through that most reminded you of Jai? I say Jai is a combination of Allen Iverson and Vince Carter. You feel what I'm saying? Wow, V.C. is crazy. Yeah, just like,

like I you know if Alan Iverson jumped like John Moran dog it had been crazy you know what I mean Alan Iverson was the dude when you knew you was playing him it was no matter where you were in Philly Charlotte Cleveland the gym is hot you know like when it feel like the fog and all that man that's that's how Alan Iverson you know that's the type of energy that he brought you know what I mean

the intensity, you know, he never talks shit. You know what I mean? He talked, you know, but he never talked shit. He never talks shit to nobody. Disrespect to nobody. He was just all about his team or, you know, on the ref. So, you know,

it was just like, when I knew I was playing against Iverson, it was like, man, fuck that. You know what I mean? I got to get mine off, too. And I hate you, you feel me? Like him, Marbury was like that. You know, because coming into the league,

it's like, all right, you got to play defense, and you got to pass the ball as a point guard, and they just, man, they just run enough to score. You know what I mean? So it was like Iverson, Marlberry was a lot like that. And then I say Steve Nash. Like Steve Nash had a certain type of swag and type of energy.

But the dude you couldn't sleep on was Tony Parker. Oh. Because he was going to bust your husband. Regardless. Hey, bro, he was going. Tony Parker, people don't give him enough credit. Hey, bro. He, he kills everybody.

He doesn't kill everybody. It ain't nobody that can look at Tony Parker and say, hey, bro, I ate you up. You know what I mean? Or, like, you know, I destroy you. No, baby. No way, baby. He won't all fades. Tony Parker was probably one of the most, to me, one of the most underrated.

point guards of all time. Tony Parker was nice. I actually got the chance to play against Tony when he was still moving. You know what I'm saying? Tony Parker come down hill at you.

Hey, bro. He gets layups. You crush. He moving fast as hell. Then he hit you with that spin and still on balance? Still going towards the rim? You're dead.

I watched Tony Parker film all summer when he led the league and points in the paint. I was like, how the fuck is he doing this, Doug? Like, how is he getting to the front of the realm? He gets layups.

Hey, BD. He leading the league in points to the paint. Help these people understand. This is at the time where the NBA got real big. Yeah. This is Shaquille O'Neillis. Like, she's, big. Ben Wallace.

Yeah, you have to have a big dude. Jamal McGlure. You know what I mean? And dudes that will hurt you. You know what I mean? Like, you ain't going, like, I wasn't going in the, in the paint trying to just dunk on people. You know what I mean?

I don't know how Tony Parker. Tony Parker and what's his name? Tarique Evans. I never knew. I would watch them and be like, damn, dude, how are they getting to the front of the rim? So easy.

It's nuts. It was crazy. So shout out to Tony Parker. He liked that, he got that type of intensity that job. You know what I mean? It's the same type of shit. I got.

And it's like this chip on, it's like a killer chip on your shoulder. Where it's like, bro, if you don't knock that chip off his shoulder, he's going, he don't keep, he going to keep punching on you. Yeah, yes, sir. Shout out to TP, man. One of the ghosts. TNT Sports on True TV is here, and it's bringing you action for some of your favorite leagues, including live games and events from NHL, MLB, U.S. soccer, and more.

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That was a good. Big win in O KC. I don't like to say which win was the best, but which win was like, which one was like, oh, You know, we got this one. Boston. Absolutely.

It has to be Boston because, you know, we beat them in a championship on that floor. When you walk into these arenas that you won a championship at, you automatically go back to that bike. Oh, man, this place. Like, I feel good in this place, you know what I'm saying? So going in that place, you know, they're playing great, you know, one loss. They got us coming in, you know, and it's the setup is there. It's cracking. You know what I'm saying?

And we start the road trip off 2 and O and then headed into Boston, everybody. Like, oh, they start the road trip off to and O. But now the road trip get tough, and then we go in there. Like, we pretty much controlled that game, the whole game. Like, you know, and to go in there and do that, and obviously there without J.B., you know, and K.P., but you can only play who they put on the floor. And so to go in and send that message, like we're still here. And I'm going to tell you, it's even a little more emphasis on it.

Here's why. Last year we did the whole shooting thing with Jalen Brown, and I felt like we kind of let the wrath off of them. I feel like we propelled them a bit when we did that. The confidence of that team after that just went through the roof. You know, and so to then come back and go back in that place, that we did that and lock up like we did and play the game we did. Yep.

That made that one feel like it was the one, you know, and then going to the OJC. Yeah, that was, and that's the one to get, you know what I mean? It's like, you're looking at five games. You're like, damn, dude, that Boston game, if we could be two and O going into Boston, ooh, we got a chance. We got a chance. And the way y'all came out, the way y'all came out, it was like, y'all just been focused man

y'all just been so focused you know what I mean like the Boston game was great there was a moment where you know current stuff kind of got into it you know what I mean like we we we starting to see you know

kind of like the nostalgia of I wouldn't say I didn't care in the past but it was like it was so much other shit that now like the the intensity is on on the game. Talk about like that moment with Steph and Kerr and like

when shit like that happened, like how do you guys or for the fans like talk about reacting, you know, the reaction to that. So for us, I always, you know, like I pay attention on all that stuff.

And so for us, when I saw it, I just go to Steph and reassure him like, yeah, we're good. Like fuck that. Like let's move on. Like just to make sure his head stay in the right place.

You know what I'm saying? Because people respond to things differently. You know what I'm saying? You never know what response you're going to get. And so I immediately go to him like, man, fuck that. We're good. Like, let's keep it pushing. And now, again, and I always try to tell guys,

when you are one of the top dogs on the team, the job goes far beyond just going out there and playing a good basketball game. As you know, there are so many more things that you have to deal with. Yeah. You know, when you're going through this stuff. And so I'm immediately watching that and I see it.

And I'm watching Steph's reaction and how he respond to it. Because if he respond negatively, and when I say negatively, I don't mean arguing. I don't, I mean respond negatively like his play. You know what I'm saying? His demeanor. If he responds negatively, I'm already, I've already told myself, like, I need to go talk to coach. and make sure coach understand the reaction. You know what I'm saying?

To make sure a coach understand, hey, Steph ain't respond great to you yelling at him like that. Yeah. Let's just keep an eye on that. So that's already my mindset. Because, again, you have to keep an eye on all of these things. You have to know what make your guys tick and what makes them not.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm watching that like a halt. In turn, I'm then watching the post-game press conferences. and stuff like, no, I want to be coached like everybody else. That statement lines up with the way you continue to play after you and Steve has your own. So cool. I wash my hands and I'm on to the next thing, you know. But it's those types of things that when you're trying to compete at a high level,

when you're trying to win championships, it's those types of things you can let slide by and you look up later on down the road and you're like, man, where did I? Like, where did we go wrong and you for you, and you don't pay attention to those types of moments, you know what I'm saying? And so I pay attention to all of that little stuff because when you're trying to do something special, those little things add up.

It's the little things that matter. You know what I'm saying? And so that moment was huge because what it also did was. And no one has a problem with that on this team. But again, when you see Steph Curry, your cussed out like that. And he just like, but no real reaction.

Just like, like, and then Steve, you come at you, you gotta shut the hell up. For sure. Like, you have no choice but to shut the hell up. And it sends a message to everyone. And more importantly, who else is sends a message to?

which I think is even more important than sending message to players. It sends a message to the rest of the coaches. Coach. Coach. Yep. Get it up. Get your coaching up. Like,

hey, man, I'll tell you, man, Stackhouse to this. Hey, man, y'all got Stackhouse stouts over there. He's an offensive mastermind. Yeah. Hey, bro, y'all got,

y'all got some dogs over there. When, what they, the additions that they've made this coach and staff, stocks, He's an offensive mastermind. Is this offense? As you know, I live on that defensive side of the ball and what Stack has done with his defense.

Oh, man, it's been crazy. Hey, and what he has done with his defense make me say, that ain't Dreybonds' defense. That's Stacks defense, and I'm going to be a part of Stacks' defense. Yeah. What he has done there, the point of emphasis he's put on that side of the floor, the mentality that he's made us have on that side of the floor, what he come he come every day locked in

and he's like oh we watch the field stuff said something yesterday he's like oh stack you know well right there I was thinking this so I had to do this stock was like oh tell me next time tell me that because I definitely dinged your ass on them grace for that I dinged you're right so next time make sure you just share that with me that that's what you was thinking and that's what happened

because I for sure dinged your ass and stuff like yeah I saw it at this time on my sheet. I love that down. But it's just a different accountability level. Like, man, I get them grades. We get a notification. We work on this app with our team

and we get these notification grades out, man. As soon as I get that notification, I need to see my grade. And last night, my grade was high as hell. It had to be. I think I need to go back and check the grades, but I'm almost certain it was the highest grade of anyone

on the seat. Come on. Hey, Stack. I need to get one of these gray sheets. Add me to the list, that put me on the text notification. I need to see that. It's so great to hear, I mean,

you see the results, but when you buy in to a defensive philosophy and you got to coach this back there, engineering, and then also you got a grade. Like that, we live on goals.

You know what I mean? Like, we live on success. We are, We are fighting and chasing perfection every time we come on that court. And so to have that accountability, that structure, but also that trust, right? You know, like you were saying with Steph and wanting to be coach and coaches wanting to coach is really, you know, it's that trust, right? It's being able to nip all the little things that could be deterrence, right? and no every time it's nipped or every time it's fixing soft it builds greater trust you know what I mean

sure and that's you know that's why I like on a defensive end like you guys are are gritty you smart you know and you're not you're not worried about if there is a misassignment like who did something you know what I mean like a lot of times like oh shit I damn I'm switched out on the wrong person, y'all don't look at it like that. Everybody takes the challenge, everybody has support, and that's what you need, you know, to really be a winning team, because

like the deflections, like, you're not tall, yeah, not super athletic. You know what I mean? It's like the deflections, the, you know, the over-the-back calls from boxing out, right? Just all the little things that, the block shots, right? The steals,

all those things measure up, right? And if those are, held at high esteem. I remember it used to be deflections. Or for me, like when I let the league in steals, my coach told me, taught me how to do it. He said, just pick the dude up, like, right before half court. As soon as they get to half court,

jump their ass because they can't go back. So I was getting all kind of turnovers and steals because as soon somebody come across half court, first thing they do, they relax. You're ready to call a play. And then I was on them. You know what I mean? And so, like, them little goals are like, them little bitty things getting fixed.

Like, that creates that trust. You know what I mean? Talk about your trust. You know, we got out there. I think the trust is coming from, you know, the coaching staff is being willing to earn that trust. You know what I'm saying? They ain't walking in like, all right, we're the coaches. and y'all do X.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They're walking in trying to earn that trust. Like, you know what I'm saying? Stack. Again, I keep going back to Stack in the defense.

Every time some start going wrong and we like, yo, we need to get out this cover. Stack like, this is what we doing. This is who we are. Do this.

And so you stand on something like that. Everyone else has no choice but to believe and trust in it. because you're standing on it's so tough. You know what I'm saying? And like, I think Stacks also doing a good job of like standing so tough on it initially. But now starting to be like, all right, cool, y'all seeing this change.

Well, let's change this. Let's tweak this thing. You know what I'm saying? Whereas initially he's like, no, this is what we're doing and just do it. And I actually like that mentality because what it showed is like, I believe in this. I think this is what's going to give us the best chance to win. Let's try to be great at this thing. Now we can start to make adjustments, right?

You're like 11 games into the season. You're starting to figure out and build an identity. You can start to adjust some things when you need to, when you see fit. But first, you have to build a base. And I think, you know, the coaching staff has been willing to build that base. And in turn, when you see guys who've been through it, who know what it looks like, trusting in it. And doing all of that, it creates.

for a different opportunity and for a different situation and I feel like that's where we at right now. Man, let's move around the league a little bit, BD. As a Wednesday, Cleveland Cavaliers are the only undefeated team in the league after playing against them. This past Friday,

I personally believe that they have a chance to get to the conference finals in the East. Okay. If you can get past Boston, that's on you. Right. Like, get yourself a chance. Boston is still your front runner out there east, huh?

Absolutely. No question. But I think these Cleveland Cavaliers are serious, and I'm going to tell you why I think they're serious. That ball humming so crazy BD, my head was on goddamn spinning. They was moving that ball so fast. I was like, whoa, whoa, oh, man, oh, I went to hell. Oh, this dude just replaced three.

Like, he just, like, I'm like, he relocated. Oh, my God. Like, they move in the ball so crazy. They got bigs. Yep. Which, in turn, allows their guards who's smaller to just funnel you to their bigs, right? Yeah.

So, like, Donovan Mitchell, not a great defender. D.G. not a great defender. But if I can funnel you to Evan Mobley and Jared Allen, all I got to do is not be a screen magnet and chase over the screen and force you to drive. Right? Makes a difference. Kenny Accuson, what he's brought to that team, the mindset that he's brought to that team,

you see it in Darius Garland. Darius Garland is playing at an all-star level, an NBA starter all-star level. Yeah. Right? Again. That's, you see that in Kenny. Evan Mobley.

Crazy. The way Evan Mobley is playing is what you thought Evan Mobley would be coming out of college. He has not been that. He's shown. you, he's worthy of being viewed as possible to become that. He's now becoming it. Yep.

And man, them boys playing some basketball. You got Okoro hitting shots now. If Okoro is the only guy you can help off of and he hitting shots, you're done. Yeah, he does. You know what I'm saying? I think, I'm sorry, I think this team, they got some there. And Strucane playing, they got yep, right?

like Todd Jerome balling off the bench. George Nien, we know he shoots that thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, they got Caris Levert coming off the bench. Max Struce is out. Like, they got depth. I'm telling you, man, I like, I like that team. I like that team.

I like the fact that they have energy. You know what I mean? Before when they played, it was like, depending on Donovan Mitchell energy or depending on Darius energy and there was no connective energy. These dudes got,

they are like connected tissue out there. You know what I mean? Evan Mowbly, you know, I say glue, right? Like a super glue.

Like he's starting to become like their super glue guy. Obviously, Alan, you know, he's super talented and, you know, just defensively smart.

You know what I mean? And then the way Darius Garland is playing in compliment with Donovan Mitchell. Yes. And compliment, you know, with Mian and the other dudes, like they're playing both like league guards. And they're taking the challenge to be that. You know what I mean?

Together as opposed to like, oh, I got it this game. I got it this game. He's going that. Like they are figuring this, figuring it out together, which is very critical. You know what I mean? For them to be to get to that next level. And to your point, when I saw the game against you guys, I was like, all right, well, you know, this ain't really a real testament.

You know what I mean? To what the score was. But these dudes are really good. You know what I mean? Really good. Yeah. So in a real game, it's going to be a really good game. because they got so many offensive weapons,

they got breakdown players, they got shooters, you know, they got guys who can play ISO one-on-one. And so I think they are dangerous because outside of a lot of teams, they have more guys who can, if they have the ball with five seconds

and they got the ball in their hand, they can get their shot off. Absolutely. Like when you look at a lot of different teams, you know, you go through New York, you go through Philly, you go,

even Boston, right? You know, like, you can't throw the ball to anybody. on Boston and expect him to get a shot with five seconds is going back to Jalen Brown is going back to Tatum. But these dudes,

they got a few dudes who can wiggle and get their own money. And it changes things. It changes your defensive game plan when you've got that many guys that can get to it. You don't think Philly can be... Philly, it's over for Philly. It's over for Philly. It's over for Philly before it even starts.

And by the way, when you have the amount of talent that Philly has, you can always put some stuff together. Yeah. But when the public take over the narrative of your team is hard. Yeah, it's super hard. It's hard because now it ain't just about the game. Now you're dealing with all of these other things that... You're depressed.

It's a depressed energy. Yeah, absolutely. They're in the tough spot, man. They're in a tough spot because now everything Joel do, everything he say is going to be picked apart. And it just makes everything that much tougher. So then you ask yourself to question, none of those guys, and I repeat, none of them,

except Kyle Lari has ever done it. And so if you've never done it, And you got to deal with these things to try to do it. Yeah. It's one thing if you won a championship and you know, like, all right, we won a championship. And because we've won a championship, because we've won a championship, we now know that this is coming with it because of that, right? But they got to deal with stuff that, and they ain't won no championship.

So you don't know how to win a championship. championship. And now you got to deal with all the extra curriculers and extra things that ends up coming with a team in the spotlight that's won the championship. And y'all don't even know how to do it. And you got to do it with that weight on your shoulder? Man, that's hard, man. It's hard to do when you know how to do it.

Right. You know what they are. You know what they are. They are the desperate housewives of basketball. They ain't got so much drama going on. And it's like, yeah, damn, you got, you know, and then you look at, you know, you look at Kyle Lowry, he did it, you know what I mean?

He's trying to bring a championship pedigree. He probably, you know, older, they got young guards. These dudes are way different than how Kyle Lowry came into the league. The dudes he had to pay, you know what I mean, to even be a brand and to have a name, you know, and so they got, you know, you look at Tyrus Maxie, he's out. But he's like, to me, he could be a superstar.

Paul George, in and out, hurt. M.B. In and out, hurt. They got so many injuries, but to your point, it ain't even that because they could just be off to a slow start. It's the energy of the media, of what's going on with Joelle, you know, I don't play back to backs,

oh, I'm just trolling. All that shit is just unfocused energy. They have the most unfocused energy, and I would say cloud around them, right? So where it's like, okay, we're going to turn the Philadelphia 76ers into this year's Desperate Housewives.

This is where all the drama is going to exist. We don't know what's going on. You know what I mean? And so like, we're not talking about Philly about hooping. Yeah. Right now. True.

You feel what I'm saying? There's nothing coming out of Philly about who. And by the way, I'm going to tell you something about that, B. That's a great point you made. I went through that last year. Yep.

But nothing about me and became this team was about basketball. It was about all the other shit. It's impossible to win that way. It is. It's impossible. It's a depression. You know what I mean? Because, you know, like, I'm watching y'all last year,

and I'm watching you last year, and it's like, you're trying to get out of a funk, but, you know, frustration, anytime you get to the cuss of doing something, like, oh shit, I ain't got triggered. You know what I mean? And it's like, that ain't even you. You know what I mean?

The cloud. It's the cloud. You know what I mean? It's those little whispers, those secrets. The same thing you said was, when Kersay something to step or somebody rolling their eyes, nobody's picking up on that because that cloud is hanging. So they can't huddle and be like,

come on, guys. Like, forget what everybody else is saying, and this is about us. Let's be as real and as honest as we can so we can go be the best on the court. You know what I mean? But they don't have a message. They don't have a message.

They don't have a slogan. Like what the hell is the, like what, what, what's the thing for the season with Philly? You know what I mean? We don't know. That's a fact. So you're saying Philly need to press the panic button, correct? Absolutely.

New York Knicks. Do they need to press the panic button or would they be fine? They're going to be fine. Okay. You know the Knicks is my squad, bro. You know the Knicks is my squad. Absolutely.

Okay. I think the problem with the Knicks, here's my issue with the Knicks. You went out and got Carl Anthony Towns, right? It's a difference, non-difference, than Julius Randall. You figured out a,

you figured out the best way you played Tibino basketball was without Julius Randall. Yeah. who has not been good in Minnesota, by the way. Yeah, who's been trying to figure his space out. So I want people to know, like, Carl Anthony Towns coming to New York does not guarantee anything.

Julius Randall going to Minnesota does not guarantee anything. These men have to move their families, move into the city, just like you said, do all this media, and then figure out, like, you know, wait, what happened to me? And then not only that, who am I, who am I on this team? how do I fit into the offense, the defense? Like, you got to, like, it's going to be a learning process for New York and Kat.

You have some high moments, some low moments. But I think he has to adjust and Tibino got to adjust into figuring out, like, the Julius Randall shit didn't work. That's why I got rid of him. So if you got Carl, uh, uh, uh, cat over here, like, you got to figure out how to play scrappy, playing fast, and best mobilized cat, because he had better weapon for you than

Julius Randall, if you use them right? 100%. Well, I think it's even less about Julius Randall, though, and more about other guys. Obviously, Mitchell Robinson's out. He's out. They lost Hardinstein.

Hardinstein is with Oklahoma City. Neither one of those guys can walk on the same pavement that cat can walk on this basketball ball player. I get that. But it's everything and what someone brings to a team is everything and where the Knicks is going

to struggle more, I think, with Kat than say last year. A, they snuck up on people last year. Nobody thought they was going. Now you're expected to be good. That's a different thing. But also where I think

with Kat, you're worse defensively for sure. You know, and Jalen Brunson isn't a great defender, you know. So now what ends up happening is it's not so much that, it's not so much that it's like, oh, well, cat isn't as good of a defender as Hardinstein or as Mitchell Robinson. We get that, but it'll be fine.

It's not totally and solely that more so than you had one. non-defendant on the court out of five. Now, you've got two non-defenders out of five. You know what I'm saying? When you start adding, when you, I won't even say add it, when you start compiling non-defenders into one lineup, it makes a difference. It makes a huge difference.

When you got to hide one guy, it's doable. When you got to hide two guys and three guys is impossible. And they're your best players. Exactly. It's impossible. Yeah, it's a big difference. I think that that's where the biggest struggle will be for this New York team is it's going to require O.G., Mikel and Josh Hart, it's going to require him to be so good and fly around so much and try to cover so many things defensively, that then you also then have to,

Once they have to do that, you then have to make sure that Jalen and Kat's attitude towards the defensive end. Yeah, they got to take that challenge, bro. And not only do they have to take the challenge, but their attitude towards it can't be like, whatever, on that end. Because if it is that way, the guys that are doing all of the work on that side of the ball, I'm going to be like, man, fuck this guy. Like, he don't want to give me nothing on this. And then you start to have these clashes and stuff. And so those are all just the little games within the game

that people don't understand that. You must know all of those things make a difference. All right, Jay. You know, I got to come with a little, you know, social media. What's trending in social media? You know, Jalen Brown called Yonis and Chow. After Sunday. After the Buck Celtics game.

and basically Yonis elbow Jayla I don't know if you saw it in the face and then Yonis fake the handshake Yonah is a big ass kid for real man I'm not saying it I mean just by when you look at that

when you look at the video or Damia Liller giving them the shoes like most people that are with Nike would be like I ain't getting near that. Like, he's a singer athlete with that, like, free shoes is free shoes like, he.

He's having the best time, dude. Yeah. I say that. I don't say that in a way, like, like, Jaylen was pissed. You all right? Like, so he calling him a child, like, man, like, I say that in a way of like, like, Brian, for instance, Brian is a big ass kid. Like, and people don't realize he's a big ass kid. Yonis, to me,

you know, he always gives you this super serious and like, but like, to me, it seemed like he is a big-ass kid. And honestly, when you are that type of force, you kind of need some of that for guys to be cool, follow them. Yeah. Because they need something to relate to. Yep. You know what I'm saying?

And so that was my takeaway from it. I thought it was wrong. Hey, bro, that was, oh, my God. But to me, it seemed like a joke. I didn't take it as like. But he just cracked you. Like, Doug, what if he cracked you in the face with an elbow? And he was like, all right, it's cool, Dray.

No, it ain't cool. Oh, you would have been hot. That is true. Hey, dog, you would have been hot. Yeah, I also get my elbows back. You would have to. You would have. You would have definitely elbowed him and did the same thing,

help him off the ground and do the same. Come on, man. It's fun, though. I like this era, bro, because I like what, you know, like this era is like, they're hell of playful. You know what I mean? Like, but it's also like some seriousness to it and it can start rivalries and beefs.

Yeah. The littlest thing, you know what I mean? like Jalen Brown wasn't playing, but Yonnis wasn't playing, but Yonis don't care. You know what I mean? Because they compete and they don't like each other. So it should just raise the intensity level, right?

You're hearing dudes talk smack over Twitter and social media and then interviews. I like the podcast because people be, they be getting shit off their chest, but it also be setting them up for like, okay, you're going to have to see that dude again. What is it going to be? You feel what I'm saying?

So, man, Shout out to Janice. You know, I love Janice, man. He's one of my son's favorite players. And he is, like, the nicest dude in the world. You know what I mean? He's, like, one of the nicest dudes in the world. But he is a, I like it because it's like, man, I elbowed you, and I'm about to leave you hanging.

So my teammates know, like, I get, like, I'm sorry, but I ain't sorry. But I ain't sorry. Like, I ain't trying to take you out, but I ain't really sorry, bro. And we're really not cool. Yeah. It's like, are you okay? All right, cool. You straight?

All right, cool. Oh, man. I rock with it, man. Like I said, you know, I rock. You know, his personality. I think it's great that he shows his personality. That's a part of becoming a superstar, which was one of my points about Shagos to Alexandria.

You have to give people something else other than just being a great basketball player that they can connect to. And that is how you move in the super star. That's how you move to need them. Shout out. Yonis, man. He better figure it out over there because his coach by the... He's coming for you, Yonis.

He's about to be on his second coach in a matter of six months if they don't figure it out fast. Don't buy insurance from Doc Rivers, bro. They better figure it out fast because I tell you what, if they don't win some games here soon,

they will be paying three coaches four because they still pay them, but. They still paying Adrian Griffin Doc. And soon they'll be still paying

Doc and paying somebody else and they don't figure it out fast. They should just bring me in there to just sit down and monitor

and be like, ah, man, this shit ain't going to work. Ah, that ain't going to work. Ah, let me talk to the guys.

Like, come on, dude, you got players like that and you're trying to coach them. And what I mean, Dre, you know what I mean.

Like, you, you coaching is putting your best players, in a position to be the best players. And everyone else who has a superpower to be in a position to be a superstar

and realize and maximize their superpowers. It's not about your coaching. And that's what Milwaukee is going through. They're just going through an identity crisis. It's like, I can't, I don't know how to be honest. I don't know how to be Dame. And I damn show don't know how to be a Milwaukee book right now. And go.

That is a fight, my brother. That is a wrap from this episode of the Dremont Green Show with my dog, BD. We appreciate y'all. Make sure you check this out. Subscribe where you get your podcast. Subscribe to the YouTube channel. We appreciate you. We love you.

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