The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show w/ Baron Davis: Moses Moody

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

Golden State Warriors guard Moses Moody joins the Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis to discuss his first contract extension and the valuable experience of playing with Steph Curry (7:00). He reflects on his time at Montverde Academy with Cade Cunningham and the impact Draymond had on his defensive skills (43:00). Moses also shares the excitement of winning a championship in his rookie year, the NBA Draft process with Rich Paul, and his connection with Klay Thompson (34:00), highlighting the strong bonds he's formed early in his NBA career. (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Green fucking fantasy. Okay, Sleeper. Hey, Jay. 80 points. 80 points. 80 points. Wow. Let's go.

Let's go. Wow. 80 points. We're not playing, bro. Defense of clarity year. Let me, I got, I got, I got to run it real quick.

I got to run the program. Hold on. Just show you what you did. Will, you already know what you did. But defensive player of the year candidate, Draymond Green, went 1888, five, one block. Ooh, no steals, though.

Only two fouls and two turnovers. No, I had a steal. They shorted me. You know what? They did short you, bro. Hey, y'all got to stop doing my dog like that. Deflections are stills in Jemond Green's world. It's rough.

We got to get that deep, what is it? That's a fact. You knocked a ball away and my team at my team. At least get half of my steels. How are you feeling on the road, bro? You know what I'm saying? I feel great, brother.

I kicked it last night with Tribe. And when we got in here to Boston, by the way, this hotel bringing me great memories, man. I was recording podcasts in this hotel after wins.

I was sick. And the finals. This is great. But, you know, we got to Boston, and I sat in my room and kicked in with trial. And every now and then, it used to be more frequently, but, you know, they, yeah, they start to grow up on you, man. And every now and then, though, I get a text. And when I get this text message, BD, it be my rook, my young fella, he'll hit me,

and he say, hey, man, can I come through? And he just come through, and he just sit and listen to me talk. and I just try to give you a bunch of gang and we just sit and chop it up and we sat here to a four something in the morning last night with my young fella, my rook, who I have the honor of welcoming to the show today.

More money. What's up, y'all. Glad to be here, right? Glad to finally be y'all. I'm excited to welcome the champ to the show. You know, we always talk about things that you need something to talk about, you know what I'm saying?

And like, in this league, just saying I'm in the league ain't enough. Like, you need something to talk about. And you, yourself, which means me, myself, and the way I feel, just when they got you a bad.

Come on, congratulations. You signed the extension. You got a paper. With the Warriors. Your first extension. how how how how how how how does it feel to get that first extension and did you go buy yourself something once you got that extension so you know being in the NBA you get there you got this amount you got this image of what the NBA is like on what it is as a kid growing up but then just like going through life and everything and just being able to separate the two between the NBA and their real life but just having that like finance and stability like that life change and money life change

and situations it's easy to take that for granted when you're stuck in the NBA world, but separating it, you're really able to appreciate what that is, what you're doing it for. So the first extension is amazing for me, and just appreciative of it and just kind of solidified stuff for me a little bit, and now you can just hoop and have fun with it. So, yeah, that's been everything from me. And would you say, is that motivation? You know, like, because usually you sign that contract, you're like, all right, here, here's

what I did. I committed to this. now, you know, what is the next phase? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So, and I try not to get too caught up in the, like, you know, what's next, what I'm trying to get to next. And like, because I've been working for this so hard.

So first I want to be able to appreciate what I did and then being able to get that flex. Then it's the NBA season, you got a game tomorrow. So you can't really be basking it too long. But, yeah, just somewhere in the middle of it is, you know, working for the next thing while I've been appreciating what I did. That's big time. BD, did you have, like,

what would you say your most lavish buy was? I probably bought, like, a house, I guess. Yeah, I probably bought a house. I bought a house in New Orleans. This big ass house in the garden district. That shit was haunted. Bro, I was scared as hell.

That shit was haunted. It took me like a year to remodel this shit. I had the worst year. in my life when I was remodeling next year I was cracking but yeah it was a big and then the house turned

into be the real world's house real world New Orleans so they they trash my shit yeah they you know when they took the toilet to the toothbrush the one kid yeah so

I would say that was it I bought a big ass house and didn't even need it I ain't as smart as you Moses you know what I mean I never bought my first house I never bought my first house I never bought

my first house, my wife and I. Oh, perfect. I remember you was telling me, Jerry Woodland in the locker room one day, you was telling me, like before the sign of the deal, it was not even a year ago.

So just talking about when you get it, just the importance of being, like, keep your money and investing in it rather than tie it up and something, too. So then even like getting the deal and everything is really, that's really been the biggest thing I've been on just trying to learn,

figure out money, learn money, because I ain't never had it before. So just figuring out. for you. If there was one thing that I could do, I'm sorry, if there was one thing that I could do over again, the one thing I would tell a young guy to get their first big contract is that next year after you just get that first big contract, live the same life. Absolutely. On your first contract. Absolutely. On the rookie deal for at least a year.

Because if you can save more by living that same life, if you can get a. hand on the savings that first year and help build that nest egg, then moving forward, it makes everything else way liar. But when you adjust your lifestyle the first year,

then you start picking up the bigger bills and you don't necessarily get to save as much. So that would be my advice and getting that first one is like for one year, the same apartment that you live in, live in that same apartment. The same car

you drive, drive that same car. Like all of those things, at least for the first year, just keep all the same. Yeah, I would ask to that. It'll really help you get ahead. Basketball is free. Everything you do in the NBA, you get for free. You know what I mean? So what do you need

all this money for? Right. And so that's a good way to look at it. It's like, yo, I live for free. I hoot for free. I go to the gym. I eat for free. Like my lifestyle is free So what do you need to go and Spend on being extravagant For what? You know what I mean?

And me being from I'm from Little Rock, Arkansas, I ain't never had much Growing up. So Like, so, you know, some people ain't never had nothing when they get something They want to wild out. But I'm That ain't really me. Like, I ain't never had nothing, so I'm cool and not much, honestly.

So you're being able to, because I heard somebody told me that a while ago, like, you don't need to be rich when you're 20 years old. You need to be rich when you're 50, when you guys, and grandkids and whatever that. Then you need some money for real. So I ain't in too much of rest to change up. The problem with that is, the earlier you get rich to better

because there's this thing called compounding interest that the sooner you get the money, the more money it makes for you. So that must have been a broke person that tells you you ain't need to get, you ain't need to have. Like, you need to be, you don't need to be, you don't need to exploit or worry about

being rich in your 20s, say the money be rich in your 50s. You know what I mean? You need to get the money but you don't even spend it until you older. You need to get it, yeah. Okay, that makes it. That's great advice.

All right. I'm about to say. Now, that is great advice. I thought they were saying. No. All right, no. I don't know. Who is this person

talking to my dog? No, he got it, right? All right, now, we got a question you. You're trying to sell him, you need to have money until he's 50. You feel what, moving into, you know, obviously what we all want to talk about. The hope season. It's just going into this season. You know, you're going into your, you just started your fourth year, not going into,

you just started your fourth year. But just want to rewind a little bit, just going back to the beginning of the preseason. I felt like you approached this season with a different mindset and not a different mindset in the aspect of your work ethic because I've always seen you work since you've been here. I always tell people like, Kvon Looney is the most professional player I've ever played with when it comes to just being an absolute pro.

And second to him is you. And you know, you're second because you just don't have the body of work in the lane. but the way you've always gone about your business is admirable and respectable. But like I said, I felt like you approached this year, this preseason, this season with a different mindset. What was some of those goals that you set for yourself to come in with this new mindset and this, you know, I felt like at times before you'd be aggressive and then like not know, and like now it's just like you're seeing more certain of what it is and who you are.

Just talk to me about that and making that a job. Yeah. And so a lot of that was this summer, like going into it, because as much as you know, you got to stay level-headed and not worry about whatever it is, like I went into training camp with like I want to, like I can sign a contract this year, not knowing what it's going to be and trying to figure that out. Like this is like, so going into training camp, kind of showing what I've been working on. But this summer I was working out at proactive with my guy Dash and all. And I was really just learned it a lot about footwork and how to be the guy.

what was you trying to get to and stuff like that. And that was really big for me because my own life, I've been a hard worker. Like, I've been a workforce. But realizing that, like, it's more about what you're working on than how hard you're working sometimes. So that was the biggest thing that switched for me this summer

and going into the season. Even Marys said why. So that was big, and I think that kind of showed a lot of the progress. But then, to answer your question, the mindset going in, and the difference of it is kind of just been, And like, I know what to expect now. I know the NBA, like, I know what coaches is like this and that.

And for me, it's really just been, I've been trying to get playing time, trying to stand the rotation, trying to do what the coach won't. Like, that was kind of the game that I played a lot earlier on. But then once you play that game long enough, you realize, man, it's going to go. It's going to be how it's going to be no matter what you do, honestly. So I'm going to just hoop and then let it let all that go how it do. Yeah, I like that. You know, Steph retiring to playing the Wizards,

Wizards game. It's like a tongue twist. I can't say with it, litherth. I said it with a list. But before that, you started three games without stuff, you know,

and you was bawling. And what I saw was, you know, stuff being active on the bench with you. Can you talk about, you know, how it felt, you know,

how you feeling in those three games, but then also just a relationship, you know, as a young dude, you know, making this progress that you got with your vets, like staff and definitely

dry. Yeah, yeah. It's been an ideal situation for me. Just coming into the league and having these vets, having these dudes. But something that I learned, like, as I got older, is that just because you got the people there don't mean you're going to learn that they're from or don't mean you're going to get the best from them.

You got to earn that. Like, you got to get that respect. I ain't just going to sit up here and talk to somebody that might not want to get talked to, might not want to learn nothing. So, like, part of the professionalism that I come with every day dealing with anybody is to get that relationship and get that respect. Like, if I'm showing up late to everything we're dealing with,

then you might not want to, you're going to come with a different thing to offer. But I want to get everything I can get from Dreys and Stephs and CPs and dudes that I've been around. So that's why I ask so many questions. I'm opening that door. So you don't got to worry about how to talk to me. I'll tell you. Like, I want it. I want the game.

I want to talk about it. Like, I used to go, I would go to Dre all the time on the place. and we'll watch film together. But it's just because I want you to be okay to come talk to me about anything because I want that from you. You got to earn that and get that from people. So like you was asking about Steph in particular, that's a big thing with him.

I feel like he's not a guy that's going to come up to you and just give you game. Like I want you to have this. I'm going to talk to you, talk to you. But if you asked him a question, he'll go on for however long you want to talk to him. You just got to go. Right, right. You got to go knock on the door. And then he all there.

He's ready to do it, but that's what that's about it. That man gave you the most profound answer. He walked you through every step of it. We could be in practice, one of them going to him for advice. We've been moved on to the next drill. He'd still be over there in the corner talking to him. We all just be standing in the huddle, standing out of waiting for him to stop.

Give you the most profound answer. It's one-on-one, too. He ain't doing it in the front of everybody. Everybody to see it. Like, no, he's talking to you. Yeah, that's killer. That's it. Nobody else have a clue what the hell you're talking about.

It's very quiet. It's over there amongst them, too, and that's... Hey, Moses, I do got a question. Have you ever asked Steph a question? And he go, oh, man, I don't know. He's like, damn, like, oh, man, you know. Yeah, yeah. I feel like, that's the thing that I like about Steph

is that, like, he really. He's really real. And, like, so far, even to say, like, if he don't know to answer to the question, he'll be like, no, I don't know. And he's not going to come up with a fake answer because he's supposed to know or whatever that is. And he'll go figure it out and come back and tell you. But if he don't know, he'll say that. Yeah, I know, I know Jay asked him about that shot in the Olympics.

I mean, I've seen you, you've seen him make incredible shots. Do you ever go up to him and be like, yo, how did you do that? And I wonder if it's the same answer? Three game, Jemond. Yeah, I ain't ever, I really ain't never went up to him and asked him out to because he obviously didn't do so many things. But, no, I ain't never went up to him out. He just seemed like hella humble and, like, he'd just be doing shit out there

and don't know what he'd be doing, but he'd be doing it. And he can't explain it. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that be the case a lot of, yeah, okay, I get what you said. That'd be the case a lot of times when I'm asking him about stuff. is that he really just, because he's so free-spirited with it on the court and everything, it's not everything is completely figured out to the teeth. It's like shooting.

You know, when I ask him about shooting, I might ask him about a turn that I noticed that he does because I'm watching. I notice that he does something, and he'll grab a ball and be like, well, I guess I do do that. And then he'll tell me why it came from or something, but he didn't realize he didn't. He'll do it every shot. That's hilarious. That's funny. That's Steph, though.

And that is his greatness, though. Like, you just be in it, right? Like, just doing it. Oh, yeah. You know, it's not for sure. He's not over-analysis. It's funny. I heard him say the other day.

He said yesterday. That's one thing Steph ain't going to do. The last thing he's going to do is sit there and over-analysis situation, which explains, I mean, it doesn't explain it at all, but which also explains, like, a part of his greatness and why he can shoot the way he shoot because he has short-term memory. We was breaking a huddle yesterday, and Steph hit his first three on the court

and BP says something like, ooh, first three back out there, you knock it down. Touch my hand, touch my hand, so I can hit the shot. And Steph said, I should touch your head. Steph touched his hand. He said, I should touch your head. Get all out your head. Get out your brain and go play.

He just touch your brain. Get all out of your head and go play. But that's how he is. It's always just like, yeah, what you're thinking about? Like, why are you thinking? And he just do what I'm saying? And that's, like I said,

that's a part of his greatness. And it being a year four for you, you won a championship in your first year. So you know how it looks. You know what things look like. You know how it feels. A lot of guys in year four can't say that. You know, you want your first year.

championship before I won my first championship, which I don't necessarily love, but it's cool I'll give you that. But in saying that, a lot of talk has been put on this, about the depth of this team. What is your takeaway about this team? Like, what stands out most to you about this team? It would have to be the depth. I mean, just kind of wise, without, with so many, with so many guys, so many players. And given that I have been able to see what the playoffs is like, what the stretch is like. The biggest thing is that it's not about the first five. Like, it's not, you get to the playoffs.

And then it always seemed like, man, they would have won if that dude didn't get hurt or if that situation was different. And that's the biggest thing about going down the stretch is that it's not going to be as you plan. It's not going to be perfect. It's not going to be the way it was supposed to be. So having enough to withstand almost anything is a superpower. It's a cheap going almost. Yeah, that's the fact.

I always say to people, you win championships six through ten. You don't win championships one to five. We see great one to fives all the time. Every team is almost built to have a great one to five. Everybody's built. Like, who's my starters? Yeah.

If you just have that, you're screwed. Like you, it is absolutely necessary that your 6 to 10 be strong. Your 6 to 10 need to be able to win you games in a regular season, which in turn, if they can win you games in a regular season, they may sneak you one during the playoffs. But during the playoffs, your best players got to be playing great. Ain't no sneaking games. You know me, I know you.

Best players got to be playing great, but your 6 to 10 got to be strong. And your playoffs, you know, it becomes 8. Sometimes it becomes 9. But that got to be so strong in order to win. And a lot of people don't understand them. Yeah. How would you describe your experience playing defense alongside my dog, Jemond Green?

And then also we talked about like previous episodes how like it was a challenge, you know, guarding somebody like Jason Keel, you got Donovan Mitchell, you got SGA coming up, talk about, you know, garden players like that. but then also, you know, you got, you got the man right here, this defensive player of the year right here. Like, how has, you know, the experience which you and Jay, you know, affected your defense again? Yeah, yeah, that's a good question.

I would talk about it in my rookie year to where it's like I'll be guarding somebody and they feel like they just hesitant. Like they don't want to make moves a certain way and, like, because they see me and they don't want to attack their, attack here. And then I realized the fact that it's like, like in a movie or something to where it's like the dude, the dude in the front, I'm already looking at you, but then I got this big old dude behind me.

Yeah. And then they act in a certain way this or that. And then as I've been able to become a better defender too, now I can mess with them. I can take more gambles and kind of affect the ball, affect that because they always have that hesitancy. Because Drey, he's not going, he's not like halfway showing. Like, no, he's standing right here.

Like, where are you? Where are you? We double team and you are both. because he can react and get back to where he's supposed to be. So just having that behind you at all the time, it just lets you become a different player, different defenders. And so, yeah, and then I appreciate it. Yeah, that's a big shout out, man.

Like, you know, how that big dude behind, you know, had that big old security dude, that big old OG gangster. You know what I mean? It's like, yeah, I can gamble. I can be out here gambling, boy. It's a beautiful thing. And then talk about, like, you know, you are now your fourth year, so you're going to be facing the Donovan Mitchell's now, the SGAs.

Like, y'all got them two coming up. What do you think about their game and, you know, what's your strategy on, you know, your approach when you plan against these, you know, superstar shooting guards? It's like, since I was talking about, like, learning the game and everything throughout the summertime, like I was watching a lot of film on a lot of different guys, and I watch it differently because now I'm looking at footwork

why are you good? Why do you score? Why do you beat this guy? Why do you beat people all the time? So I was thinking about it for myself, but even on the defense and end, now that you understand it, you understand it both ways.

And that allows me to kind of realize, too. Like, we're dealing with those guys. Everybody says that you don't stop SGA or whatever players, like some of those top players, but you can make them do what you want them to do. And then team, their defense, being able to send them to the help, being able to take away a couple things

and just have a game plan, like that, the more you understand the game, the more you simplify it. And that's what you can do on the defense then. I always speak about, as I said before, just your professionalism and your demeanor. You being, you're quiet to most, although you're not quiet if you know you, but you more have a quiet, more reserved personality. And so for me personally, I always like to speak you up, you know, speak up. things I think you do well, you as a person, all of these things, you know, about your game.

But in assessing yourself, what is it that you hang your hat on when speaking of your game that you're like, this is who I am, this is what I hanged my hat on, this is what separates me from my peers. What is that to you for you? Yeah, I would say shooting is my thing, and that's been, like, I've gotten better at it,

get it out and all of that. But shooting is the thing that I do. But then outside of that, I've been working on like ball handling and being able to control the ball come off picking rolls and kind of read situations like that. The hustle plays and all

of that. I've had to do it so much to where that's part of me now. And then defense, I can guard the one through four. You can switch me on five if you need to every once in a while. But really just that multi-purpose, but shooting is my thing. The Emirates NBA Cup is here.

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Uh-oh. This next week, too. What do you expect to be the, what do you expect for the atmosphere? And then also, if you were to describe your relationship with Clay Thompson, how would you,

what words would you choose? Yeah, yeah. Clay is such a, like everybody talk about like free spirit and this and that, but Clay really just a real dude. he he don't

he don't do nothing for no interior murdals he's not doing this because it looks good or because these people gonna think though he's doing it because he wants to boss

but even like dealing with him that's been my dog since I've been here in conversation just that same feeling like he let you on the boat because he wants to hang out

with you for a while not because no other reason like so we still be playing chess and stuff all the time it's just an authentic relationship with authentic dude.

So he, he ripped. Who been winning in chess? I've been, I've been hot lately. I've been, I've got to fight three, four games in a row. But before that, I was talking to you and told you he was getting off. He had me like five games in a row. I just started to fight back. So, yeah, we, we pretty, Nick.

He up like two games on the record. BD, what you was about to say, BD? No, I'm just looking forward to this matchup. I already know, you know, Clay called Draymond, ah. Yeah, he did. He called Jada Op. Ooh.

He called John the Ops. So you know, Clay coming in to Chase Center. You know what I mean? He, ooh. I'm going to have to come out for that one. Listen, check this out, most of them. I'm working out at Yula this summer. And, you know, Dollars come in.

Well, Kyrie, Clay, a couple of other guys. They come in at the gym after I finished. my workout and I had to run that day because I had Pilates right after so as soon as I finished and I ain't get to see Clay but I saw a couple of other guys and then Traff saw Clay come in and Traff was talking to Kai Rhee and Clay walked up to Kyle like God don't be talking to the ops

so then Traff came and told me that Clay said that he was like you think he was serious And I was like, well, it's Clayso. He's joking. But he's definitely a little serious. Like, but he's joking. But he's definitely serious. And so sure enough, the next day I'm working out there,

come in again after me. And I'm talking to Kyle. And he woke up, Kyle, you're talking to the ox. Wow. And I said, love this. Try. He's, there's, definitely some seriousness to it.

He just said the same thing to me. So therefore I'm going to run through his chest when we played him now. I wasn't going to. Come on. Hey, you have to. And that's where that whole thing came from because he's just like, oh, they're the ops.

They're the ox. Obviously, we all love Clay, but to love Clay is to also know that he's going to come in there trying to murder us. He's not trying to be up for him. That's why you love. playing. You see me?

I'm looking for, I ain't seen Clay Posto in Dallas at all. He's going to be trying to run you to the post mode. He's going to be on all of that. That's going to be. I got to get to that. I probably got to show up and pop up for that game. That's going to be a historic game. I know.

Y'all got a, yeah, I got a, you know, you're going to. You know he's going after. You know what I mean? You can't let him get an op advantage because you know he's a dog. You know what I mean? You know what I'm doing? He's engineering. And he's engineering that war room right now for you.

You know how everybody talking about like saying like you playing against your friend or a brother, whatever it is? And everybody's like, oh, they play a buddy ball, this or that. But when you really dealing with your brother, like, you play harder than when you play than when you play against anybody else, like, you know, you want to. you want to go at it with him. He's been here all this time before I've been here, obviously.

So you see him go at it with these dudes, and that's why you like him. That's why you like what he brings to the table. So just because he's on the other side don't mean he's still that same dude. And that's why you like him. So, you know, you can't, he's going to bust your head if you,

just like he was busting him on the dude's head if you let him. You better pay attention. Don't let you go out there. Born and raised in Little Rock, Arkansas. Born and raised in Little Rock, Arkansas, Mount Verde Academy in Florida.

After your sophomore year in high school to further your basketball career, before we get to the Stack Squad you were on, who did you model your game after when you were growing up? Model my game after, being for Arkansas, you know, you don't really, you don't got a team or nothing. So I just grew up watching a lot of different players.

I like Ray Allen a lot. I don't shoot like them. I never really modeled my format them, but I just like to watch them. I like Joe Johnson being from Little Rock. I grew up watching a lot of different guys, though. And so just taking certain things from different guys

and really just being a fan of the sport. And then two, guys in my city. I ain't, I only watch NBA players. I ain't only taking, like, I'm watching this. My homeboy, I'm in middle school. He's high school. I'm going crazy. I'm watching a kid.

I had a guy like that. growing up. Man, we had Anthony Roverson, Pete. Oh, that's my dog. And just to watch Pete, man. Pete was crazy. That was my dog. He used to come across half court.

Freshman. Come dribbling across half court. And the whole gym, literally, when he starts dribbling the ball from the back court, everybody goes, ah. As he crossed half court, they get louder. Ah, did he raise up? Oh, man. So crazy.

And, like, Big Ranch in my hometown playing at the, at the Vets Park and Stillbill, Dell, and all these guys, Sean Matthews. I learned how to, like, the tricks into the trades of the basketball game from those guys. It's like, them old heads, 38 years old, they still playing in the rec leagues. and O.G. Fred Harvey. I learned, to your point, Mo, I learned a lot of tricks. My Uncle Benny, I learned a lot of tricks to the trades from playing against those guys. Right. Yeah.

So, no, that's fire. Hey, man. Told him, man, Moses from Little Rock, Arkansas, man. You just ain't getting that from many people, man. You're not getting that from many people. But you'll see a year. You're on the number one team in the country. Kate Cunningham,

Scotty Barnes, Ryan Nimhart. What? Yeah, they team was crazy. That's crazy. Y'all had a couple more guys, I feel like we're missing up, right? Yeah, Day, Ryan Sharp,

Dereke Whitehead, Caleb Hughes, Lowe, Lex & Love, Z.I.L. Before N.I. How much they pay you? How much they pay you?

They have to pay you. Yeah, because that's here right there. Because me and Kay and Ryan, we all went there a year before. So we was already there. And then they became that. So it wasn't even like they put that team together, like on the spot.

That's a crazy team. That's a sick team, dude. But you and Kay, You and Kay Cunningham were roommates. How was it being roommates with Cade, you know, as we get into this? Like, your living situation, you move out of your parents' house. You moved to Mount Verne, Florida, and you're rooming with Cade Cunningham. First experience with a roommate.

How was that? It was different for sure. Well, for me, I grew up with, like, with dudes. Like, I'm always in my homeboy house. I got my brother. I got cousins. Like, I grew up around people, so that part wasn't a hard for me. But my first year there, I can't even put it on a scale how small that room was we was in.

But, like, in the room, my bed is here, cave bed is here. It's like this much room in between the two beds. Like, it's crazy how small this room is. So given that was the situation, we used to get into it about stuff. Like, we used to always get into it because he liked to had a light off in the room in daytime. And I'm like, in daytime, I don't want to be sitting in the press. And so we like, we used to get into it. to it.

I'm leaving the room. And it light on my side. So if I wanted to light on, I'm turning out of my own. That sounds like jail, bro. And so that year, we used to get into it a lot, but it wasn't never like we really into it. We didn't argue much, but that's my dog,

especially now. And in the second year, we had a bigger role and everything. And we've been, we brothers at that point. So you argue like brothers, it's not even. And you're living with these dudes. We're on the road together, playing basketball together. but we just got a special relationship from being so close all the time even when you don't want to be.

So, oh, yeah, that's my dog. With the team like that, the better player then at that time is not how it always turns out, like to be the better pro. When you look at your team, has it shaped out kind of the way that y'all thought it was shape out from that point of like who was the top dog? or who's having a better NBA career?

Like, how has that shaped out for that team? It's really been. It's probably, like, similar to the way it was when we was there, honestly. Cain was a number one player in the country being there. Scotty was top five, top ten, or whatever it was. And then me and Dayron, like, in the rankings or whatever, it was so much. And we had so many dudes on that team to where we got 10.

10 guys that are all top 20, like top 50 or whatever in the ranking. So like coach trying to play everybody, but then the younger guys, this and that. So he would always play Cade and Scott. He's know they number one and number three in the country or whatever they are. So they got to kind of get a little more, but they can't even get that much more. And then we beat and changed by 50. So we got to stop playing about a third quarter. So everybody averaged like 11, 10 points a game.

So then on the ranking side and all that. Now guys don't look as good, this and that. but it was all up in the air. If you could do it all over again, would you make that same decision? 100%. Definitely. And honestly, I didn't like it when I was there a lot of times.

And with that being said, that team that was on, probably my favorite team I've ever played on outside of basketball. But when I was there, you got to keep in mind, bro, I'm leaving school. I'm leaving my city of like 15, 16 years old,

going to live in Florida with a bunch of dudes. My VIR has students from 93 different types. So you dealing, you got the Africans over here, the Brazilians over here. Like, it's so, you deal with it. And as a kid from Litterat, I'm exposed to the world. And so even what that did to me growing up, and then, like, mentally, I'm getting cool with the A-Ds and the teachers and the advisors, this and that, and working your way through a system and organization is, like, having to think for yourself as a grown man, that's saying what that did for me growing up is irreplaceable experience,

especially for a kid. That's fire. You got a lot of dogs in your draft class, you know, and being a lottery pick comes with expectations. Did you know that the Warriors were going to draft you with a 14 pick? I thought so. I didn't know for sure, no, you know, you can't know. But going into it, like, I had a big range that I could have went from, like,

seven to 25, you know, like, I didn't have a guarantee or nothing like that going into it. So they had two chances in my spot. And then I worked out with them. And then I came back and worked out again. Now the only place I worked out at twice and I played really well. So I knew it was a big chance. But look at this.

This is the day in the drive. Oh, that's crazy. And it says, who at 14 he said at the same time it's 9.20 p.m. here so 6.20 but

I say Bob as he's texting in Moody if he's there I'm saying Moody question mark I said damn I'm good ha ha ha ha I love that pit so

needless to say I was on the Moody train he was on it Before I met the young fella. That's amazing, dude. I was on train before I met the young fella. Absolutely. But if you remember, though, I was in Rich House in the summertime,

and you came through, and, like, I was, like, y'all was really just talking. I was trying to just listen to me, y'all talk. And even, bro, it's crazy. Before coming to the NBA, I would really just be sitting there thinking about, like, just who I wanted to be around in the NBA. and you was at the top of the list of guys just like, I don't know this dude. I don't know what he's like, how it is.

But I don't know what I want to get from him, why I want to be around him, but that's just saying like a cool dude to be around and learn from a little bit, just from what he's not even what you saying to me, but what you would say to other people and just, because I like watching people. So I had that thought beforehand.

And then when I was over there, when it was at Rich House that time, I was like, okay, that's cool. I'm going to get to sit here and do it. Do it even now. but not knowing what the future was going to be. I remember that, you know, they was out there for pre-drive

and you was over Rich House and we were sitting in the back. I remember that like it was yesterday. And it was after that, after that, I just knew you had a maturity to you and Rich was sitting there vouching for you. And the thing about it, and Rich had been vouching for you and talking to you about me,

but the thing about Rich is me and Rich can have an honest conversation. Like, he ain't going to vouch for everybody to me. me because he know I'll call him out like I ain't buying that and he was really really high on you and so I end up watching a lot of your film and when I watch because I've always like for the last seven eight years I've maybe not so much the last couple years um but originally I would have a lot to say in the draft process and I would like be in it and I would watch film when I was studying like you know, do all these things and talk to people.

Like, and so I knew a lot about you already. And when I sat on, when we sat back there and we talked, if I'm not mistaken, I think we were watching like some playoff games or something. And, and we had that conversation. Like, I just knew you had a different level of maturity than the average 18-year-old. And, you know, that for me was like, yeah, the game is what it is. Like, we already knew that, you know, but that did a lot for me, you know. And so when I was asking, I'm like, I'm saying Moody, like, it kind of should be him.

Like, yeah. And so that's pretty funny. I forgot all about those text messages. But when you just asked that, it made me remember. Yeah. That's your time, though. Yeah, you were the first working to hit me after I got drafted, too. Yes, sir.

Brotherhood. Clutch gang. Clutch gang. Everybody's going to be mad that day. Oh, my brotherhood's a lot. Yes, sir. I mean, I just, people don't understand that, you know, we all come from different places,

but we all come from similar places. And what connect us is that we think and execute and operate on a high level in order to even get here. You know what I mean? And you make so many concessions. That when you see some, somebody that's in the same situation. You're like, man, I know this dude

been through something to get here. You know what I mean? And so that's how that brotherhood form and people don't know. A lot of times, people, fans don't understand that because it's the journey that make the story. You know what I'm saying?

It's the journey that make the story so it make it easy for you to be in sync and say, oh, I want to, man, Jamon Green is somebody I want to talk. You know what I mean? Like, you know, because it's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our DNA, you know who you want to be when you grow up

and you know who you want to hang with when you grow up and who you admire, you know. That's the beauty of our sport and what I love about this game is you can admire somebody and never meet them and then meet them one time. You know what I mean? Like I saw Kevin Garnett and Chris Weber meet for the first time when they were retired.

And they never had a conversation until that moment. and it was just like, you know, the reason why I never said nothing to you, I didn't want to give you an advantage. The reason why I never shook your hand, I didn't want to give you an advantage. Remember you knocked me down? Like they remember every moment through admiration,

but they could never express that on the court because no, they was battling for that top spot. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't want to put no words or whatever, but that sounds kind of similar. to Dre and C.P. being on the team this year, last year,

after they battled so much going into it, but then getting around each other, like, oh, you call you pulled. That's a fact. I hated C.P. Man. Not only did I hate him, but we were always battling.

Like, you got to think, C.P. It's right at the heart of everything we were trying to accomplish. He was the top dog at Point Guard. So I come in, and I'm watching him as step. relationship. And I'm like, that ain't going to work for us to be who we want to be.

Like, him like kind of being your big bro, like, I'm just looking at it like, and see, and as you know now, Mo, see, he's smart as hell. And so I'm just looking at it and I'm like, yo, he's playing on that. Like, he's using that to like keep you here. But I don't like that. And so I start, like, being messy in between it, like, creating a riff. Like, because I'm like, I need this riff in order for us to be able to move ahead of them. Like, we can't move ahead of them. And you, like, big bro. Like, and so I intentionally, like, they were super tight.

I intentionally start creating a riff. And because I felt like CP was using that to his advantage. And then as I'm creating a riff with them, me and CP like, this. And under no circumstance do I even want to correct it? And then Uncle West tried to force me, really forced me

to try to correct it. And he didn't for it. But you know. And and then CP was kind of like yeah, it can't be it. But not really. And I'm like, fuck it. Like, fuck this. Like, I don't care about it. And I remember when I first, like,

me and Blake, man, me and Blake was at it. And I remember when I first hung around Blake off to court, I was a little skeptical about it because I felt like I had some fear instilled in him and not fear like he afraid of me, but like a respectful fear of like I got a deal with this dude. You had a psychological advantage. Exactly. I felt like I had that and I knew like I know the type of person I am. If I hang around you, you probably go like, because I'm not an asshole. I don't think I'm bigger than what I am. I'm a normal dude. I'm having fun.

If there's some fun to be had, we're going to have fun. Like, we're going to joke. And I know how I am. And so I was a little skeptical about, like, when I was around him the first couple times, I ain't even, like, say much to him because I wanted to keep that. And then, you know, we end up, you know, kind of getting know each other better and being cool and moving past it. But that's a real thing, man. That's a very real thing.

You got to hate everybody, bro. If you try to be that dude or you're trying to get that team over the hump, you got to hate everybody if they ain't your teammate. And you got to develop that as an edge, you know, because, you know, everybody's cool. Everybody's good people. In the offseason, dudes got families. You want to, you know, you're hanging up.

When that season comes, you got to find a reason to hate somebody. Yes, you do. You know what I mean? Like, nobody. How much you love him, how much you admire him, you know what I mean? Like, you know, Sam Casale, Tossi Bill, it was big bro, but it was, there was none of that when it was cracking. You feel what I'm saying? It's like, I got to figure out a way, you know, to level myself up because I ain't about to be nobody little bro to nobody.

You know what I mean? You can't be, man, because when you approach guys like that, they treat you. like that on and on. And you know what's crazy? I remember my rookie year, man, we was playing against Memphis. And Zibo is my big homie.

Like, Zibo is Spartan dog. That's the OG. And like something happened on the court, and he did my head like this. Now, number one, I hate what people touch my head. Like, and I teach myself, don't let people touch your head. But I also honor

our brotherhood. that Michigan State. Legacy. I honor that. And under no circumstance, am I about to do something in this moment and get into it with Zipo about that? And they go somewhere else.

That's my big bro. And so in the moment, I'm just like... That's different. Yeah. I'm saying he's shake my head. And in the moment, I was just like, I just kept walking back. And Coach Jackson pulled me over to the side.

And it was like, hey, man. like, that's your dad or something like that. And I'm like, nah, he's like, I know that's your big homie, but just knowing this league, everybody is looking to get an advantage. And so if you let him do that, like, and it, you know, again, it don't have to, you know, it's not like, it's just this huge problem. I ain't saying that. But I'm just telling you, if you let people do stuff like that,

he could have an advantage on you and you don't want him. anybody to have an advantage on you. And so when he told me that, that also gave me like a boost to like, all right, well, I'm at Z ball. Like, yeah, that's the big homie. But I'm at him just like anybody else. You know what I'm saying? And it gave me that confidence to do that.

But that's a, that's like a key moment in my career because it set the stage for who I became. You know what I'm saying? And I think if that's, like, I don't know y'all's situation, whatever. But if you deal with somebody is really your big homie, that's really your brother, big homie, your little brother,

then it ain't no limits to like competition or whatever it is. We can go at it 100% and I know you don't mean nothing else by it. That is 1,000% of fact. It's for them bragging rights for afterwards. You know what I mean? When you're hanging in the summer,

like, yeah, I cracked you, homie. You know what I mean? Or you don't have to say much. But you got, you know, it's all bragging rights and it's all love. but you got to go in, you got to earn your respect in this league, bro. You got to go take some respect.

And that's like, that's like when you're dealing with your man's or your best friend and y'all, like y'all can argue, or y'all can play and say whatever, and it's cool. But if you deal with somebody, it's going to be different.

You better, you better not say that to me just because he said it to me. If you say that to me, because he said it to me, or if you say that to him, because I said to him, we're going to jump you. That's how that's going to go.

We're going to jump you. So you should probably not do that again. Because if you think you can do that because we do that to each other, we're going to jump you. Because if I fight you, he's going to fight you too. So just don't do that.

You, man. Like, no, you should, don't do that. That ain't for you. That ain't for you. And that's another thing, too. Like, I got into my whole voice before. Like, yeah, we talked like that. when we're hanging out.

But don't, we don't do that around other people because they go think that's, I got to go for that. And that ain't that. That's your special situation. This relationship hit a little different, man, it ain't that. You and BD drafted 22 years apart.

BD was the third pick in the NBA draft. Besides being drafted, is there a particular moment for you from that night on your draft night? that stands out in your memory? Yeah, plenty of them. Really early on, like my whole first year,

everything was so new and everything was so exciting from really, really from, like, pre-draft, from like, I'm chilling at Rich House with Draymond Green. Like, I was just up on my couch, and now you, you're there, and then you meet LeBron before the season starts,

so it's not like you in the NBA, you don't got a team, now you meet everybody to come through there and then you're in the NBA now I'm on a team with stuff like and then then you went preseason and then you're in the season and then you're in the season and you plan against all the dudes

now you're in the playoffs so new and so much that it really becomes like you numb to numb to excitement, numb to feelings because you've got to be cool through all of this to where it's like anything can happen tomorrow man and I don't even I don't even flinch

there's a world win You got to take it. Because it all happens. So now it's slowed down now because you kind of get to a point. And now, you know, it's not as exciting this and that. But especially early on, it was fast. So much. It just becomes your reality.

Yep. Right. Once it becomes your reality. And it's a transition period. And it's like, all right. It's kind of what you expect at that point. Yeah, it's fast, bro. It's fast.

You know what I mean? But it's from the time you get drafted. you're in the next, you're in the city, you're doing a press conference, and after that, it's on until it stops. And another one, yeah, another point to answer that question too, I know you took thinking more of basketball stuff,

but even like my first time staying at your place in Cabo was, it was something for me because we're growing up in Little Rock, like all the dudes with money, like they got they changed on and they flashed and this and that. And it's cool, you know, pieces on. But I'm like, all right, well, I'm not a big, I'm not a very flashy guy.

So I really don't need money like that. Like, what do I need it for if that's the only thing? But being able to, like, get here and go see something like that, it's like, man, it's really, it's really some stuff out here. Like, it's really so you can see what money buys and what, like, the freedom to be able to go do that. And, like, that was a big, that was an eye-opening experience. You know what's funny? about that experience and I'm happy that that's what that experience did to you because the second most important reason, the third most important reason I've learned. The third most important reason I wanted,

A, because I love the property. It's an incredible property. B, I love what the property entails for my children. Like, my kids can go there and have a blast and, like, it's safe and it's a place that they can, like, spend a part of their growing up and, like, see something that, and experience, like, this kid paradise that never had the opportunity to experience. But my last reason and but very, very, very important reason of why I bought it was, as you know, math and Brian them got a house

they got a house they live on the same property right next door and because of that I could always go to Cabo for free and have a beautiful

home to stay in and now is that because they made that available to me and once I felt like I was in the financial position and do it

I wanted to be able to make that available to my family and my friends, you know what I'm saying, that aren't their friends, you know what I'm saying? And so for me to be able to open that up to you,

I actually spoke about this once before. I think a part of where me and Jordan Poole relationship went wrong is he was supposed to go to the house. And as you know, you may hit me up two months, and I'm going to put you on a text with them people the day before

or email the day before and they're going to, have everything dialed. Car service, you send your flight, you send grocery list, everything's died. And so, you know, life be moving, but what I'm not going to do is your

date ain't going to get here and you ain't ready to go. Like, before your day get there, it's going to come back to him. I need to make sure he good, right? And so I had it all dialed in and like ready for him to go and then I hit him and I'm like, yo, so

seeing your flight here and he's like oh I ain't gonna go and I'm doing this now and I was like damn I wonder if he felt like I let him down or like I ain't come through for him or I lied to him you know what I'm saying and it was

with the house but anyway that was the whole purpose for it's like so my friends can go there and experience that so my rookie you know my young fellas can go there and experience that and see what life it's like and like how people actually out here living and that there's more to buying a house

in Little Rock, Arkansas. I don't own a house in Saginaw, Michigan. I mean, like, I mean, I owned a couple of them in Saginaw, Michigan. I literally took them out my state. They, my mom and my grandma house. They got them. Like, I don't own a home in my hometown. Like, but it's just so much more out there that we never get the opportunity.

to see and I'm so thankful to Ma'ath was the first person to take me down there. I'm so thankful just to the things that they showed me that I would have never imagined like to own a home in Cabo that would have never even been a thought. Yeah, that's my point.

Right. And so to have someone like that's what I want to be for you and J.K. And like all y'all young guys, man, because I've been blessed and fortunate enough to have guys to do that for me and show me that. My welcome to the league moment, man.

We're going to get into that. So I had a little welcome to the league moment where, you know, I came off the bench, John Stockton, kind of like made me turn the ball over three, four times, and he elbowed me. You know, then I think I socked him. And that was it. That was it for me.

So John Stockton was my welcome to the league moment where I felt like, damn, dude, like, this dude is just a bully. You know what I mean? What was your welcome to the league moment? My welcome to the league moment is probably, it's probably before the season started, garden stuff and training camp and practices and all that.

And it's different seeing on TV. But then when he hits you with that same move. That's going back. I got that shit. You can't guard it, huh? It's impossible to guard. And that's the thing, too, you'd be thinking you playing a good defense because he's not going past you, but it's like he ain't trying to.

He just trying to get his face for the side. I just remember. A lot, man, that dude come across South Court. I remember just a few times I played against when I was playing with the Clippers. It was like, bro, you are not about to get comfortable getting nowhere by this hat. I'm about to jump him, and I just push him on the sidelines, and I'm going to guard somebody else. I'm going to mess with step, dog.

It was another one, too, because, you know, my rookie year when Clay was coming back. So, Clay, he ain't on the court yet and all that in the beginning. So then when he first started getting back on the court, they got me working out with him all the time. But, like, when I first started working out with him, I'm like, man, this dude out for two years, like he's been hurting and all that.

Like, he's coming back. I ain't trying to be the one to hurt him. like do nothing this and that. So I'm like, I ain't even really, but then, but he ain't hooped it. He ain't hooped in a way else. So he's getting straight to it. He'd kill it.

And then like I had to go, I had to like to get all that, like lock in and play this and that. Over the time we played so much, but especially in the beginning, he'll be killing it. Yeah. You get dropped off.

You would never expect. Man, man, man, I'm thinking, you know, he's just trying to warm up, get back, get back in the flow of things. Nah, he's straight to. Game C, he's looking at you like a test dummy.

Hey. He looking at you like, y'all got in the shooting guard, let me kill him. Yeah, let me see it. Let me get,

let me get myself back fast. He liked to play defense too? Okay. This is going to be fun. Man, that's funny. I got one more thing before we get out of here.

I got one more question. I'm not sure of BD got another one, but what's one thing that you heard about before entering the NBA that ended up not being true? I know the thing for me was the girls in the

lobby waiting on you. Like, I'm coming to the league and I'm like, where they at? Like, thirsty, where they at? They're in the lobby. They bought a bar where they at. And they, and then loving basketball said they come to your door. I'm like, they come into the door. Where

And I never ran to him at the bar and I never, they never came to my door and it was one of the most disappointed things I have heard. Hey bro, you laugh like Jay-Z. Anybody ever told you that? I didn't know. So what was the thing for you? Is it the movies? Oh, it was probably.

be really just the way that people talk about the lifestyle of not just the NBA, but the celebrity lifestyle of, you know, like fast-paced, this and that, and just saying that's just the way it is. But, like, getting here and realizing a lot of this stuff is however you want it to be, and you can control a lot more than you think. And, like, getting into basketball, it's like, oh, the workouts is supposed to be this much harder or this is much easier. You know, some people say working on me and a supposed to be easier or whatever they say, but it really is whatever you want it to be

just you have more control rather than less control about certain stuff. That would probably be it, just realizing that it's the same as you when you was in high school. You know, you are who you are and you just in a different place now. Then the situation don't change you. I will warn you that

if and as you or when, I would say when, you continue to ascend you get to a certain point of where it ain't just what you wanted to be. Like, you know, there's, I think there's a time, but like, there's a time where it's like, yeah, you create your thing, you got your thing,

you got your routine and all that. And then you can also ascend to a certain point to where your time is no longer your time. Oh, yeah. And that's, you know, like, that's one of the, the things like because I used to be I was the guy that I go everywhere I do everything I'm man of the people like I'm in every and I still would like go to stuff and like but not as much because A there's just more things to do like you as you ascend all of a sudden the shoe deals

get bigger the media deals get bigger you know all these things well that stuff requires time and your time is no longer your time. You know what I'm saying? And so, you know, like, I, you know, I was talking to JK the other day and I was just telling him about, like, when you are number one, number two, number three, at an organization as a player,

like, there's so much more responsibility that come with that. Like, you are actually in the inner work as an organization. Like, I have to have calls with Joe. You have to have calls with Mike. You have to have cause with Steve, like all of these things. And then there are so many people, like, there's so many people that you are in charge of. And it's not that I'm in charge of Rick Celebrini.

But in the sense, you host some responsibility for Rick Celebrini. You host some responsibility for Danny. You host some responsibility for KB because their success is based on your success and your performance on the court. So you take on all of these people that. you don't necessarily realize that you take on right now because you're not necessarily in that position yet. I didn't understand it before I got to the position, but there's a lot that you take on

and that fast life that people talking about, sometimes it is given to you. Like what I would say, Steph never chose the life he lived. Like, Steph would have chosen to just be at home with his family and that's it and play basketball. But like, Steph ascended so far, there's just so much more responsibility in things. And it ain't necessarily just how you had it and how you wanted it.

And so I will warn you that, you know, you continue to put the work in and you grow and you elevate. That can and will change. But it's a good thing for you. You know what I mean? Because that's just me and you killing. You have 20, 24, 25 points again. game. And, you know, that's what you play for.

Everybody plays to have, you know, some sort of responsibility or some type of pressure. That's why we play this game. We want the pressure. We want the pressure to win. We want the pressure to be better, to be the best to maximize our potential. Yeah, and then it can be that, too, like, maximize your potential. Like, whenever, like, get it, they can get like that. Well, it's only going to be like that for a certain time, too, because once you stop,

you know, you can, you know, for step, it might be that way for you. a while at these stop too, but eventually stuff would slow down and ain't like you going to something that's going to mess up your life or whatever. It's like, no, you just, you know, strike what I heart tight. That's a fact. I always say every five years, I ask myself,

who do I want to be when I grow up? So you never think of yourself as whatever you are, you just, in five years, this is who I want to be when I grow up. So it always keep you fresh. It always keep the goals of mine. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

After basketball, I still do it. Yusuf had said something to me, said something similar to that one time, just saying, like, he was saying, everybody's a kid, for real. If you think about it, like, when you were qualified as a kid is because there's so much

that you ain't been exposed to you don't know about. Well, whatever you don't know about, you ain't been exposed to, that's why you don't know about it. So, like, no matter how old you are, everybody's just an older kid than the other kid. It's 85-year-old, young people out here for real.

You know, one, I got to tell, you moe uh shit man you you you're a lucky kid you know what i mean to be able to come into the league you know to have jane to have the like you come in with juggernaz with legacy and then to come in and win a championship talk to talk to me about what was that moment like you know uh being a young player on a championship team even though you may not have played a lot like what was that experience like for you and how did that help you grow to where you are now? Yeah. So, and Avery Bradley did preseason with us that year.

And somebody told me, he was saying, summer leaves, nothing like preseason. Preseason is nothing like regular season. Regular season is nothing like the playoffs and the playoffs and nothing like the final. So being able to get to all that those spots within my first year kind of sets me up for the rest of my career. because I've been there. I've seen it all.

I've seen, like, there obviously is different stuff, but I've seen every level that that was really cool for me. And then, too, being on such a good team to where I'm not playing a lot throughout the season, not playing at all in the playoffs, but then Dallas series happens a couple things go left. And now I'm playing 20 minutes a game in the playoffs

and all the presses of it and being able to, like, stay composed and, you know, you're nervous to a certain extent going into that game, but being able to, like, be okay with it. and hope and play good and get back in. So everybody talk about staying ready and this and that, being able to do that at this point. But I've been doing that since I've been in the NBA

and doing it at the highest level too. And the playoffs is like everything else is easier. So being able to experience that my first year and then, like the parade and going to Vegas, going to, like doing all of that, celebrating the championship. That's all stuff I've done. before two now. And you know, life is just a compilation of experiences. So I didn't know it's to it. Just heightens it all. Man, you're a lucky dude, man. But you earned it. You deserve it.

And man, who wouldn't want to rock with Jemond Green? Me being a co-host? I already know how he is. Shit, I'm fortunate. I'm lucky, man. This dude is, you know, one of the realest. Like, you got a dope. y'all got a dope synergy and connection as young dude and bet y'all keep that shit going you know what i mean like y'all keep building on that brotherhood and that this is an example of you know how we should be you know what i mean right right i'm just kind of like almost like a fly on the wall but i'm just admiring like the brotherhood and and you know i appreciate y'all for you know shit for making it happened to them. You know what I mean? It's just, it's just good to see that. Y'all got me hell of, I'm in a positive light right now, man.

That got me in a hell of positive life. My dog. Hey, we appreciate you, BD. And more money, we definitely appreciate you coming on, bro. It's been, uh, so you've been year four and you on the show. You earned it, though. I always say, like, I don't just want to talk to somebody because they got drafted into the NBA. I want to talk to you because you accomplished something because you got something

to talk about because you have worked to attain a goal and you reach that goal. I want to talk to like-minded individuals just because you make it to the NBA that doesn't make us

necessarily like-minded individuals, right? But to watch you put the work in, go earn something. Even when it wasn't always in your favor to go earn something, I respect.

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