The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show w/Baron Davis: Dray & Baron on Warriors-Rockets CONTROVERSIAL NBA Cup finish, facing Luka & Kyrie, Dybantsa to BYU
Episode Date: December 14, 2024Draymond Green talks about how he’s feeling after the Golden State Warriors suffered a tough loss to the Houston Rockets in the NBA Cup quarterfinals. He and Baron Davis dive into the loose ball... foul call at the end and discuss if it really cost them the game. They have a good laugh about Trae Young shooting dice on the New York Knicks logo. Baron wraps it up with a wild story about a fan interaction in Utah that came up after Dray’s moment during the Rockets game. Plus what’s it like to face Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving on the Dallas Mavericks? And let’s not forget the scoop about AJ Dybantsa getting $7 million in NIL money to go to BYU! 4:00 - Start 4:30 - Warriors-Rockets controversial ending 24:00 - Milwaukee Bucks' turnaround 28:00 - Trae Young trolls Knicks AGAIN 33:00 - Dray's fan confrontation 37:45 - Luka & Kyrie backcourt 41:00 - AJ Dybantsa to BYU (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #Herd See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What's up, everybody?
Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show with my dog.
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The NBA Cup versus the Rockets was a tough loss.
I know. I know. I've been there before.
I'll tell you. I know. You got to walk us through.
Man, it was like a rough.
Five, three, two.
Man, listen, you know, been in the league now, 13 years.
All games are not created equal, as you know, BD.
Some games you're going to get up for more than others.
Some games, you're just not going to be able to find the juice
over the course of an 82 game season.
Some games you ain't going to be able to hit a shot.
Some games, the rim going to be watching.
is the Pacific Ocean.
That's just the nature of what we do.
Because of that nature and doing it for 13 years,
I don't get too high or too low on winning a game,
especially in December.
But this game in particular,
and I don't know why.
And I think maybe it's the opportunity to play for something,
you know, like just having an opportunity to compete for something.
something is always special for me.
And I have not been as hurt as I was losing that.
Or am losing that game since 2016 in Game 7.
Because, damn, I know what that feels.
I know what that means.
If you think about it, in 2016, Game 7, I got suspended.
You got suspended, yes.
From Game 5 of the NBA, which changed the series.
Like, it completely changed the series.
right.
Like, all right, so that's 2016
crushed because I know
that we're supposed to win this series.
Like, it just felt like
at the end of it, it just felt like
something got taken away.
Like, damn, like they
took away what was ours.
And so, in 2016, I felt that way.
In 2019,
Game 6, Clay terraces, ACL,
Game 5, KD, Terrors, Achilles.
ain't really much you can do, right?
Like, you lose that series.
Yeah, you're depleting and you fight.
Like, you move on.
Like, it's unfortunate.
Yeah. Just had a bad go at it.
You know, like, cool, you move on from that one, right?
2020, KD. left, Steph's out with a broken hand,
Clay's out with, you know, his ACL.
Yeah.
In 2021, we build him back, right?
then we won the championship in 2022.
2023,
we lose to the Lakers.
We just weren't good enough.
Right?
So, like, when you look at these years,
call it since 2015
and the run that we've been on,
the only time where I really felt like,
dang,
they just took what was ours.
Was 2016.
Of where, like, factors were what they were,
and we should have.
have won. That's the only time I felt like, wow, something got taken from us. I haven't felt like that
since then. The last time I had that feeling as a whole was when our home we got broken into
back in 2022. And he just felt kind of like violated like, wow. Like somebody took something
away from us. Like that was ours. You know what I'm saying? Like that's the last time I really, really,
really felt like that.
Then you fast forward to
two nights ago
and it's like, wow, this is our game.
Like, and we're competing for something.
And then it just got taken away.
For me,
that was one that was like, it was a gut punch, man.
Like, I was up to hold...
Like the end.
I couldn't really sleep after.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, sleep was jacked up
after like it just it just wasn't going for like it was bothering me bro it was bothering me and i
wasn't even playing just like you just keep thinking like damn if you just if this this happened
if that like you know what i'm saying or you know i'm looking i'm going back i'm looking at every
play like man if i get to stop here if i don't go for the pump fake there and give him to
free throws we was up seven we get to stop there now we possibly go
nine or 10, right?
And so you start, like, recounting every single play, like, and just going back, like,
dang, man, literally if one play was different, if we get one more stop or one more bucket,
like that game is over, right?
And so you just start going back on all those players.
Or one, good possessions.
You may not even score, but just great possessions and keep you a flow,
on defense and offense.
It's over.
And so I'm going through this whole thing, bro,
and I'm just like, the whole night, I'm like, you know, back and forth,
like, golly, man.
Like, how did this game get away from us?
And, bro, I'm still salty about it.
Yeah, but it's crazy.
Shout out to me.
I got to get a rock, because I told you, that's my surprise team.
They just, that on one end, it's like, you,
as a young team on the road,
you need every single little thing to happen
to have an opportunity to go your way.
And I thought they never stopped playing.
You know what I mean?
They never stopped playing hard.
And then it was just the ball start just,
like they just started getting favor.
Yeah, yeah.
It was like this magical favor.
I do not like when the game ends on a call.
That should never determine the outcome of the game.
Yes.
Now, as you know, I told you, I was Jemann Green before Jemont Green with the referees.
And so I only talk to the referees.
You know what I mean?
Friends in the first quarter, second quarter,
friend of me is in the third quarter,
and independent if we went and they're losing
what I say to you
at the end of the game.
You know, but like to be
in that situation, the ref double
downs on this two minute report
and said it was a loose ball foul
was the correct call.
I personally
think that he should have
just shut the fuck up,
call the jump ball, anything but
a foul, right?
Like this happened to us
and this happened to us
during the We Believe
year. We were playing against Washington. I was not playing, but Al Harrington filed Gilbert
Arenas. They called a foul with like 0.3 on the clock. And he was driving. Those moments
when you know it's like, damn, we got gut punch. Everything got away. You can blame something
on one call, but it's really like if we do-dood-dood-dood-dood-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-d-d-d-d-d-d-d.
That's what I feel like. And, you know, it's like you need
that moment in the season where you're like, you know what?
We're never losing like this again.
You know what I mean?
Like attention to detail, sharpness.
And then that's also like, all right, I can't get fine for talking about the ref, you know,
talk about it.
But I know what you mean that gut punch because it's like everything y'all could have done.
Just one thing, the way he usually do things, everything they needed to go right for them,
wrong for you.
wrong for you happen in their favor
and then
for sure
you know what I mean
like I hear give me this
this doesn't belong to you
you know I've been on the
the right side of a lot of great things in this league
you know when it comes to winning the
losing it so when they
when it's in your favor you can't be the guy
that's like oh man we had
the favor and like we won
and then when it goes against you you be the one
that's like oh I'm going to blame everything now
obviously I disagree with the
call.
I think, you know, when I look at the whole thing, shake out from the vantage point I had,
I see GP dive on the ball.
I see Fred Van Bleet dive on GP back.
Oh, man, crazy.
Directly on his back.
So I'm looking at it like, oh, okay, like, wow, they ain't calling me.
All right, keep playing, you know what I'm saying?
And then to see that call after what just happened with GP having the ball and to also
see two other referees come in like jump ball, you know what I'm saying?
And then one referee come in with a file.
It's like, whoa.
That's crazy.
Like, are you serious?
Are you serious?
We're really doing this?
And like, you know, and so I was just taken back by the file.
You got a guy on his back 80 feet from the rim.
And like, we call a file and give two free throws with that amount of time, though.
Yeah, that ain't the way, bro.
No, and I thought that was crazy.
nonetheless calls go the wrong way all the time it's on us as players to not put ourselves in that position to where that call can affect the outcome of the game and so when I look at all the things that went wrong you know we go underneath a fred and fleet you know just coming in off an inbound and he hit the three right that cuts it from six to three those are mistakes that we can't have you know what I get to stop on shingoon I need to get that rebound I knock it off a stephead and go out of bounds they get you know they get another
possession, you know, and so there were, there were plays, you know. Little things, man. It's just little,
you know, kind of little errors, like a lot of them said. For sure. You know,
JK slipping off of stuff, me throwing the ball, him not catching the ball, right? That, you know,
I had too much steam on the pass, so I can throw a better pass. And then my thing that JK is,
and to the young guys, there's a different level of physicality at that game at that, in the game at
that point. If he grabbing your arm right there on that catch, like you, you got to rip your arm away.
They ain't calling that file. Yeah, you can't expect that with a minute left in the game.
You know, so it's things like that that when I look at all of those things, we could have done
better. I know everybody made a lot about the Steph shot with 12 on the game clock, nine on
the shot clock. I actually like the shot. Number one, is Steph get into his left step back,
which is Steph shot. That's the night night. Like that's.
That's what it is.
Like, that's where the night night comes from.
Yeah.
Everybody's like, oh, man, he shot the ball too soon.
And I say, yeah, like, in an ideal world, do you want to run a little more clock?
Yes.
But we got six shot clock possessions in this game.
Like, so you take the first good look you can get in that situation.
Again, he hit that shot.
We go forward.
That game over.
You know, we can always look back and be like, yo, like, maybe he took this earlier.
Like, yeah, that's, all right, cool.
But, again, he got an incredible look.
Like, incredible look I'm living with it 10 times out of 10.
And like I said, we had had six shot clock violations.
Taking that great look with the clock running down like that, I ain't mad at that at all.
So I just think, like I said, I'm, you know, a little upsetting for the game to end on two free throws like that.
to play like that.
Nobody's in scoring position
with all the things
leading up to it, upsetting.
But you got to make
the plays down the stretch
and give the Houston Rockets credit.
They made the plays
down the stretch,
and we didn't.
A little heartbreak, man.
That was a gut punch for sure.
That's the first time
that organization has been able
deliver a gut punch like that
to me and my career.
So that's new territory.
Newfound territory.
You know, as the flag football coach,
the ref took one away from me.
in the championship game.
You feel what I'm saying?
I know how you feel about
reps. I like to apologize
to all refs out there
for my behavior
at my football. But I was right.
My son did catch the game,
went in touchdown.
And the ref said that
the ball was out. So I screenshot
the ref and texting him
about 30 times until he approved
that he made a mistake.
And so if we need to
bring him on the show.
Just so people in the flag football league don't think I'm petty,
I just know we won.
You know what I mean?
It's not about winning or losing.
It's just when you know, hey,
somebody made a mistake.
What's my fault?
You know what I mean?
Somebody did something great.
Somebody made a mistake.
Fact.
It's winners or losers, right?
But the facts, the facts is, hey, you can have the trophy.
We won that game because he made a mistake.
So I get it.
Riffs.
Come on, man.
Get your mind right, referee.
Man, I need to, you know, I need to,
I think they got even softer since Richard,
since they let Richard Jefferson become a referee.
He was probably in the locker room just telling everybody stuff.
Come on, RJ, get up off that.
That is a fact.
R.J.
Yeah, but seriously.
You know, like in a situation like this, you said gun punch, right?
And so really, how do you, you know, how do you grow from this?
Again, I think that's just something that for us as a team, here's the thing.
And again, I 100% disagree with that call being made at that time.
But here's the thing.
We've lost games like this already.
So it ain't like this is the first time.
And like, no, we've put ourselves in these.
positions where we've allowed games to be taken away from us at the end of the games and having
big leads in the fourth quarter. This has become a thing for this team. So we have to fix that.
Like, yeah, we can sit and complain about the ruffs and like everybody in the world saw what the
same thing we saw. Like, I don't need to sit and harp on that. We have to figure out what it is that's
putting us in these situations that's cost us now maybe four games already this year, four or five games.
What is it that is putting us in these situations and how to fix that?
That's the way this team grows.
We ain't going to grow about worrying about, oh, man, that call was wrong at the end of the game.
Yeah, whatever.
What are you doing to put yourself in a position to where that call can affect the game?
Right.
It's what our need to be.
And that's what need to be fixed with us.
You can't sit and worry about what call was made.
What can you do to avoid that?
It's our job.
And that's how we got to move going forward.
Attention to detail.
That's it.
1,000%.
The NBA Cup, now we're looking at, you know,
Milwaukee, Atlanta,
OKC versus the Rockets.
You got any thoughts, any care?
Are you going to watch?
I think I don't know if I'll be on watch, man.
I'm hurt, brother.
I can't understand.
and
right
you watch
somebody just
take $500
away from you
yeah bro
that cup means
so we just
talked about
how hype
it is you know
how like a
second life
of energy
especially in the
first half
of the season
so I wouldn't watch
either
man I'll be
yeah I don't know
if I can watch
bro like
I'm a little
salty
I really don't know
if I'm in
the right
mental space
to watch that
you watch somebody
take a trophy
away
you watch somebody
take a
$500
$1,000 away.
That ain't no easy thing.
Just watching and continue on.
Like, oh, man, this is exciting.
Yes, let me room for somebody else.
Well, I tell you who I'm room for.
I'm room for Houston.
I do like, okay, okay, see, I think that would be a good one.
And then, lookie, lookie.
Guess who's in the semifinals?
They need to bring you in as a mascot, man.
Hey, come on, bro.
They got to bring a mascot, a consultant.
Come on, man.
The coach Colorado, they got to bring you in and something, man.
You got to call me the coach whisper or something, man.
I told, Doc, I said, hey, man, you got to let the Wilder Bees roam.
You know what I mean?
You got to let your giants be giants.
And Milwaukee Bucks turn, you know, turning it around.
Yes, they are.
They are.
I mean, I think it's a testament to ride with your dogs.
Yes, sir.
You know what I'm sorry?
Yes, sir.
You got to put your.
trust in those guys. Let them be great at what they're great at. The reason they are who they are
is because of what they're great at. And I think, you know, you're watching, you know, as they've been,
I wouldn't necessarily call it a winning streak because I'm not sure exactly what their street is.
But they've been winning games. And if you look and watching, it's because Dame's playing good
and Yonis is playing good. And, you know, everybody else is now filling in and doing their roles.
but those two guys are being the stars that they are.
And it's changed the season around completely from Milwaukee.
Here they are in the Final Four,
with a chance against the Hawks,
who most people thought wouldn't even be there,
you know, with a chance to move on to the NBA Cup final.
So got to get them a lot of credit.
Got to give Doc a lot of credit for writing the ship.
DeHam over there on the bench, you know.
DeRlems Day.
He had like 12 and O in the NBA Cup.
He's like 12 and O.
DeHam.
in the NBA come, which takes me back to last year what I was saying.
If I'm a college, I want Darvaham in these one and done situations
because the adjustments that he's shown in these NBA cuts from game to game,
man, you come to those adjustments, come with those adjustments in the college.
Yeah, that's going to be cool.
Man, you win the NCAA tournament.
It is.
You want to see.
Bill Bledishik just went back to college.
Man, bring Darvahehan as a head coach of one of these top programs,
I guarantee you
you're going to have extreme success.
You're going to be up.
For sure.
For sure, for sure.
Shout out to Chuck.
Oh, Chuck Barkley.
Guarantee it.
The Darryin'Hale
in a college,
one of these top colleges
in that head coach and see
and watch what happens.
I'm telling you.
And then, you know what?
I do like Atlanta.
I start watching more now.
And they remind me a lot of y'all in the East.
They're just a bad matchup for everybody they play.
They play small.
You got the boy Jalen Johnson playing like stintor point forward, point guard.
You got Trey Young, who's just impossible to guard.
But I think all the other kids, they fit in, even the rookie.
I think the rookie is fine in his way.
He's finding his way for sure.
and they're not asking them to do much.
You know, they're asking them to average 11 points a game.
Dice and Daniels has stepped up in a major way.
Like, he averaging like 16 points a game, maybe three and a half stills a game,
five rebounds a game, three assists a game.
Like Dyson Danez is really stepping up.
And then I'm going to tell you the player of who's taking that team.
I won't necessarily say to the next level because they got a lot of growing to do,
but who's made this team as dangerous if they've been this early in.
the season is the play of DeAndre Hunter. DeAndre Hunter come in, lottery pick, you know,
you kind of see glimpses and, you know, not all the time. Now you're not starting to see
glimpses. Now you're starting to see him grow into the player that everybody thought DeAndre
Hunter can be coming out of Virginia. And he's starting to take that next step and become a
consistent guy every night shooting the piss out the ball. And so Tray Young is doing what
Shrey Young does, which is always to be expected.
But I think who's really changed that team, made that team dangerous, is the emergence
of DeAndre Hunter becoming the guy there everyone thought he could be coming out of Virginia.
I was watching the game and he was calling for the ball.
Get into a spot, hitting a shot, and then turn around back court, back down the court,
talking shit.
I was like, oh, this is a different dude.
Absolutely.
It's a different level of confidence.
What is he in his third year now?
Maybe in year four or five now.
Damn, for real.
Yeah, Tom be flying, man.
He was like that versatile kind of glue.
That's what they need it.
If you get him rocking, you know.
And then they got versatile guys who are skilled that can make plays,
which makes Trey Young so much more important.
And it's almost like you can forget about Trey Young.
if they play good,
and that's the last thing you want to do.
You know what I mean?
That's the last thing, for sure.
He takes a lot of attention.
When them dudes start hooping,
you got to pick your poison.
You know what I mean?
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
Speaking of Trey Young,
Trey Young does it to the Knicks again.
Come on, dude.
That's crazy.
Trey Young owns the New York Knicks, man.
He owns the New York Knicks.
And that man went and kneeled down
in the prison pose
and gave him the silo
and started shooting dice
in the middle of the court on the
local. This man
is a menace. He must be stopped.
This man is a menace
in New York City.
He keeps doing it to the Knicks, man.
Wow, Trayon.
Hey, bro. They would
have to have a go-fund me. I'm
sorry, Tray Young, but if I was
playing, New York would have to go
fund me because I'd have kicked him.
How they kicked your dice and kicked him.
Man, come on, New York, you got to stop left.
Hey, duh, he is really a Nick killer.
He is.
Hey, but here's the thing, though, BD.
The exact reason he is the New York killer is the Nick killer
is the same reason why he feel comfortable rolling dice on the logo.
And knowing nothing ain't going to happen to him.
Like, they don't have anybody on their team.
I mean, I was going to say.
Oh, no, he ain't, like, we ain't rocking with that.
They don't have nobody on their team that's going to do that.
And that is one of the big problems with the New York Knicks.
It's like, all right, when it comes down to it,
who's that guy that's going to stop him from doing all these shenanigans
and put it into it.
Who's that guy for them?
They don't have that.
And I think that's always one of the issues going to be with these current Knicks.
That's one of the issues.
Getting over that, man, come on, man.
Ain't nobody about to be shooting dice.
Shooting dice, bro.
Come on, dude.
I'm about to.
I came over here.
I'm taking y'all money.
What?
I'm taking y'all money.
I'm going to Vegas.
I'm shooting dice on y'all logo.
Oh, that was so cold.
And I'm out of here.
I'm headed to Vegas.
That's crazy.
Ice cold got antics.
I'm fucking with it.
I love it.
I love it.
When you own a franchise,
the way he's owned them over the last few years.
Yeah.
ain't nothing they can do.
And they hate them so much.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
Like that villain.
Absolutely.
Nick Shias should have just signed me for that game.
So,
I'd have broke that dice game up with a quickness.
You know.
Fides.
You got to come off that money.
Hey, bro.
I'd have sat there on my knee, too, right in front of him.
You got to come off that chicken.
Come off that chicken, bro.
A-Sat.
Shout out to Ice Cup, man.
Absolutely.
You know, before we get to this next game
and your next opponent,
you do got to tell me,
what's up with the refs
after they heard your comments from the fans?
What was that reaction?
Oh, man, I don't even know
if the rough end up doing anything,
but it's crazy because it was at a part
in the game where I couldn't really entertain him
because I was locked into the game,
but I heard him, and I was real close to walking over there
and scaring the shit out of it.
No, I see him what he was going to do.
And I was headed over there, but I'm like, you've got to stay locked in.
Like, you can't do it right now.
It's wild.
And I've said it for years, bro.
Like the NBA kind of empower these fans and say what it is they want to say.
Because I know as a fan that if, for instance, this guy caused me to beware, which, again, I was, like I told him right in that moment, I'll slap the shit out of you.
Man, as you should.
I would.
And I very much so will slap the shit out of him.
but just to feel the comfort to say that.
Like, I'm telling you, if it's any other part in the game
and not any meaningful game, the game would have stopped
and I would have got on it.
That's what really would have happened.
If you had a pizza shop, a coffee shop,
any other place, you ain't going to say that.
Not at all.
Because you know what comes with that,
you know you got to back that up.
And you wouldn't be sitting in that seat
if he was willing to back that up.
We're not going to even go there.
But like I said, the NBA empowers these losers
to say what they want because they know
that if I say this and he says something back,
he's going to get fined $25,000.
Just like, I'm not sure if I'm going to still get fined from it or not,
but I really can care less because it's very clear.
Like, you hear the disrespect.
Everyone in the world hears the disrespect.
And if you think I'm just going to be like,
oh, that ain't never going to happen.
So it is what it is, but stop empowering these losers.
And if they know they can get their ass kicked, they won't say that.
Yeah, they need to get their ass kicked out of the game
because it mess everything out for the fans.
Like, I like the fans who boo and hate and talk shit,
but the ones who cross the line and know they're crossing the line,
you're fucking up the game.
Absolutely.
Like, you come in there with a haul agenda.
You know what I mean?
Like, I remember when I was in, when we played,
played in the playoffs in Utah.
And it was this little white girl.
And she was behind the basket.
She had to be like eight, nine, maybe 10 years old.
And she was going, Baron Davis called.
Hey, Doc, the whole game.
That's right.
Every time I saw it, every time I shot a free throw.
I saw this little girl underneath the basket going.
Baron Davis, fuck you, fuck you.
And I didn't hear nobody else, but I can hear what you said.
So I wasn't really tripping.
But that kind of threw me off.
Like, damn, dude, this little girl really hate me.
It's crazy because it threw you off.
They came to the game.
They was in the car.
Like, all right, you're going to sit here and you're going to say,
after you to Baron Davis the whole night and worked the other side.
Imagine teaching your kid to be a kid to.
be a heckler. Imagine teaching your kid to show up to someone else's job to be a heckler.
Man, you're teaching your kid to be a loser from the beginning? Oh, man. Shout out. Speaking of that,
shout out to my dog. Madmoos, rest in peace. He was one of my trainers. He was a professional
hacker.
Go to college stores and heckle people. And I was like, bro, why would you? Why would you?
you tell me something like that.
That's hilarious.
So there's people like that out here, man.
It's like, you know what?
This is a profession.
It is.
But let them learn that as they grow.
Don't teach your own year old.
That's what I got to be for you,
just because that's what it is for you as a parent.
Don't teach your nine.
Keep it peace.
Don't teach you a nine-year-old to be a heckler,
a.
A.k.A. a loser.
Oh, man.
Next up is the Dallas Mavericks.
The last time y'all played,
that was out of the game.
We got one of the most incredible bad courts in the NBA.
Talk about, you know, Dallas, the way they're playing,
but most importantly, when you're going up against the dynamic of Luca and Kyrie and what that means.
They're playing really well.
Obviously, they had Luca go through an injury earlier in the season.
They actually started finding the rhythm with Luca out,
and then Luca came back and they continued to trend in the right direction.
You know, when you have Luca and Kyrie on the court,
there's just problems that come with.
with that. You got two guys that can get a bucket anytime they want that's going to draw so much attention and open up other guys, you know, that it makes that team, you know, a very difficult team to guard. You see like, O.K.C. the other day was like, we're not letting Luca beat us. We're going to make everybody else beat us and they have some success with it. Ultimately, when you're facing guys like that, that's kind of decision you usually have to make. Are we going to make Luca and Kyrie beat us? Or are we going to do all we can to take those two guys out and make everybody else?
else beat us. And that's kind of what it boils down to. Everybody have their theory. I don't
think one theory is right or wrong. I think, you know, you put that theory in place and then who's the
guys that's going to go out there, compete, and execute it. You know, when you're guarder, Luca,
I don't think people ever realize how big Luca is. He's six-eight. And he can see over everybody.
He got an extremely great passer. You can't just guard him to stop him for scoring. You also have to
guard him to try to take away his passing angles as well.
And it's just a tough thing to do, right?
Like, you don't want to overreact on his drive to the rim because once he, if you
overreact and he stepped back, he says, hey, you can't contest a shot.
But yet, if you stay even with him, he's just going to keep going to keep you on his hip
and he can finish because he has such great size.
So Luke is always a tough guard when guard him.
And then I always just talk about Kyrie and guard and Kyrie.
like I always speak about it more so from the help position.
Like when you're helping on Kyrie, you got to help so early
because he's so dangerous at every scoring position on the basketball court.
Where there's at every level, Kyrie is extremely dangerous
at every scoring level on the basketball court.
You kind of have to be more overaggressive on your help with Kyrie
because he can score from anywhere.
Whereas most guys, you like, yo, we don't need to get the aggressive,
he get here.
But Kyrie is everywhere on the court
because he is an elite score
at every level on the basketball court.
No offensive deficiencies.
Zero.
Neither one of them.
That's rare, yo.
As crazy as this sound beating,
Luca probably has more offensive deficiencies
than Kyrie.
And that's crazy to say
because Luca is one of the most skilled,
one of the best players we've ever seen.
But, like, Luca doesn't catch and shoot
as well as Kyrie catches and shoots, right?
Like, Luke or shoot the piss out the ball.
We all know that.
But he doesn't catch and shoot as well as Kyrie catching shoot.
Kyrie literally does not have a deficiency on the offensive end.
It's crazy.
Man, also, what do you think about the potential of A.J.
DeBonser.
I like him.
And then he's going to BYU.
Crazy, man.
BYU got the number one player in this class.
Welcome to the NIL.
Welcome to the NIL.
Welcome to the NIL where a BYU can get a kid like A.J. DeBonser to come there for a year because he'll be there for a year.
There's reports that he's been paid somewhere around a $7 million mark.
7M.M. Zell. Wow.
More power to him.
Big college, brother. If I can get players $7 million, man, let me go do some recruitment.
Listen, $7 million to go to BYU is insane.
What is viewed as success, though?
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
What's the marker for success?
Like, so you pay him $7 million essentially for six months.
To go to the tournament?
Which, by the way, shout out to AJ.
Brother, you just made the biggest bag you're going to making your life per hour per second and per hour.
Because to get $7 million for about five months of work, it's absolutely insane.
Now, granted, this kid is going to have like with the potential.
that he has, he'll have incredible
earning potential. But
$7 million to go to a college campus
for five months and not
even have to win. Like, they don't have to
I don't know what success is viewed
as for them.
What are the measurements?
But I know it's not win a championship.
And so
to go somewhere and
like get $7 million or whatever
it is around that and
not have to win a championship, that brother
hit a lick, man. Shout out to the young
fella.
You know, he's doing big things.
I've heard a lot about him.
I've heard, you know,
just he plays winning basketball,
which I love.
And so shout out to the young fella.
Get your back.
Yeah, I heard he's good.
He's humble.
You know, he's presentable.
You know,
Coach Jason Crowe said when they played Inglewood,
you know, he thanked him for the opportunity.
You know what I mean?
He knows the players, know who people are.
So it's like, man, you want to get,
you want to get a money to somebody
is going to be responsible.
And this kid is definitely going to be responsible for his talents and what he bring
and that energy he brings.
Absolutely.
I think when you look at the makeup of how he's going about his business and all the
things that you just said, which I've been hearing as well about him, he looks to be on a
LeBron James-like path where he got things in place around him where they have a system
there, not stepping outside of that system.
And he's building himself up.
building him up to be the face of a lot of things.
And just knowing how to carry himself being the number one guy for the last two years
and carrying that with so much grace,
like LeBron James, I think, is something that I admire.
So shout out to the young fella.
Keep doing your thing.
Shout out to hey, Jay.
It's super dope to see and refreshing to hear about that type of professionalism
and a young guy who's coming in and saying,
I'm going to take on all that.
So oftentimes now you got these young guys
want to challenge the system.
You know what I'm saying?
Want to challenge.
I can do this my way and do this this way.
I want to be cool.
You know, I was just about to say like,
you know, I need to be this way.
Like, nah, man, stuff sells and it looks a certain way, period.
And doing it your cool ass way.
It ain't worked for nobody.
It ain't going to work for you.
So it's good to see a young fella like this,
but kind of with that old school mentality
of doing things and, you know, the amount of success that he's going to have
and doing things that way, it'll benefit him in the end.
So shout out to the young fellow and also shout out to y'all.
That's a wrap.
Oh, by the way, make sure that y'all check out these interviews that we got coming over
the next couple weeks.
We got some great interviews we've done.
I hope y'all enjoyed them as much as we enjoyed them.
So be on the lookout for that.
And like BD told you all at the beginning,
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But that's a wrap from this episode
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with my dog BD.
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