The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show w/Baron Davis: Draymond SHOCKED by Luka to Lakers trade, will Davis bring title to Mavericks?

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

Draymond Green and Baron Davis dive deep into the NBA trade deadline madness and the blockbuster Luka Doncic–Anthony Davis trade between the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks that sent shockwaves through the NBA. What does this mean for LeBron James’ future in LA? But that’s not all—we’ve got wild NBA insider moments, including Golden State Warriors coach Steve Kerr smashing a clipboard, reacting to Jason Kidd’s suspect behavior during a Mavericks press conference, and behind-the-scenes reactions from Steph Curry's real-time reaction to the Luka trade. They also break down the De’Aaron Fox-Zach LaVine trade between the Spurs, Kings, and Bulls. Dray and Baron also reveal the insane reality of NBA trades, awkward flights, last-minute deals, and getting blindsided. Plus, Draymond talks about his new restaurant Meski - a mission to bring Black culture back to San Francisco. And don’t forget—Baron is HEATED about LaMelo Ball being SNUBBED from the All-Star Game… HOW?! This episode is packed with uncensored takes, locker-room stories, and real NBA talk you won’t hear anywhere else.  Timeline: 3:15 - Returning from Injury & Steve Kerr’s Clipboard Incident 12:00 - Breaking Down the Luka-AD Trade 43:00 -  Utah Jazz’s Unexpected Role 1:05:00 De’Aaron Fox to the Spurs Trade 1:27:45 - Jimmy Butler’s Trade Dilemma 1:41:00 - Warriors’ Road Trip Preview 1:59:30 - LaMelo's All-Star Snub 2:11:00 - Draymond's New Restaurant 2:14:45 - Closing Thoughts and Outro (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #Herd   Follow The Draymond Green Show on social media:  https://www.instagram.com/draymondshow https://x.com/DraymondShow https://www.facebook.com/people/Draym... https://www.tiktok.com/@draymondgreen...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The volume What's up, everybody. Welcome back to the Draymond Green show with my dog. B.D., what's happening my brother? How you doing? What's up?

What's up, big dog? Man, good to see you, my bro. It's good to see you too, man. I saw B.D. in San Francisco a few days ago. He kept me out past my bedtime. It was good to kick it with the fellas. It was good to kick it with the fellas. BD killed me out past my bedtime.

Didn't tell me to bring no dominoes. So in turn, we end up sitting there amongst a group of maybe six of our guys. Yeah. Playing dominoes on the phone like we some 17-year-olds that can't get our head out the phone. An intense game with dominoes. Intentance, I can't wait to slam them things, for real. I can't wait, bro. That was fun.

Yes, it was. Okay, love. Yes, it was, brother. Man, how are you feeling? I feel pretty good, bro. I'm a little tired. Like, body-wise, you know, I don't really sleep much after games, but my body, you know, just getting back out there first time in like three, what, three weeks or so,

three and a half weeks or something like that, getting back out there against, you know, my matchup being Paulo, switching off on the front. I got these two young savages coming at me in my return. So much for easing back into it. You know, but I felt good out there. I felt really good defensively. Offensively, you know how I go getting that time in the rhythm back. Kind of knowing when to shoot, when not to shoot, being ready to shoot,

I think a lot of people don't realize like being shot ready, coming back from injury and being shot ready as a thing, so I wasn't shot ready at all, getting my legs underneath me. But overall, I felt pretty good. Conditioning was solid, man. You know, I had a 24, 25 minute restriction. They played me 29. I love it.

29. Come on. 29. Come on. We had 29. We had a crucial floater. We had the defensive stop on Paulo. We got the W.

Man. Yes, sir. That stopped. It feels good. It felt really good. You know, you know, Paulo. Paulo is a guy who. I got a lot of respect for his game.

You know, he's just coming back from injury as well, and he was out a lot longer than I was. So you can tell he's still also working himself back in the shape, which I ain't too mad at him working himself back in the shape tonight. Let him take his time. Absolutely. But he, Paulo is special. My man, his ball skills.

And when you combine that with the size that he has, and man and I'm telling you he when he perfect that jump shot which I hope and think he will it's going to be a ride watch out

watch out because he really 610 like a legit 610 and also probably like and not only is he 16 but he like probably 265 and he's solid

like it ain't He's like, he's 265 solid. Like, he's huge, man. When he perfect that jump shot, watch out NBA. Godly, he special talent, man. He gets this spot raised up on, you know, he got to, you know what he is?

He's a basketball player from Seattle. He just happened to be 16, 265. But he's a basketball player from Seattle. He got the handle. He got to pull up. Gang. Just give me the ball and let me, who, he's a basketball player from Seattle at 610, 265. Good luck.

But he, you know, he a problem. But it was good to match up with him tonight. I know that a few years ago, I was on the shop. And when I was on the shop, Mav was like, whose team day on the soft Tuesday you get up, you y'all play against you? You just, like, it's hard to get up for. And I was like, ah, and math started naming a couple of teams. He liked the magic.

I'm like, yeah. So this team has had a thing against me since that. Oh, yeah. Which I don't mind. I respect. You know, Jamar Mosley has done a great job with their group. And they were playing extremely well. And then they caught the injury bug, you know.

And so tough team, though. Tough team. They physical. They defend. Well, coach. You know what I'm saying? So keep looking at them to take that next step. Like I said, I think they was taking it this year.

And then they just got bit by the injury bug. Totally. But they're going to be a team of force to be reckoned with. We'll see how they keep it all together. You know, hasn't been a franchise that has done that in the past. You know, but I think when you got two young stars at 6'9 and 610 like they do, I think you've got to find a way to really build. I think they're trying to do that.

So it's fun to be out there against those guys. They got talent for sure. They definitely, definitely had a talent. Also, I heard that Steve Kerr broke a clipboard at halftime. What happened? And when was the last time he did something like that? He broke the clipboard in the second quarter in the timeout. I want to say it was the second quarter.

It could have possibly been the third quarter. quarter. No, no, no, it was the second quarter. He broke it in time out. He started yelling ass and Steve, he punches the clipboard. One time I saw him do it before he cut his hand off, but he used to Steve used to break clipboards

all the time on us, man. Like in those glory days and like when we was like at the peak of our powers, if you will, he used to break clipboards on us on, you guys are fucking bush. Snap the clipboard and then he started pushing. Tonight he punched it.

He punched the clipboard and shuddered. And guys was like, whoa, it was funny because I, Steph said, well, only took him 49 games to break a clipboard. But he used to, man, he used to snuff them clipboards all the time. But I always tell people, man, man, people don't realize because Steve is so mild-mannered, you know. And he's like mild-mannered and just streamed. level of patience, super chill. People don't understand how fiery Steve is.

Like that's, until I understand Steve fire, we used to bump heads. Because I didn't understand his fire. And he didn't quite understand my fire. What we, what we end up realizing is that we have the same fire. And it would clash, you know.

And so once we learned that, like, no problem. Like, I don't know when the last time I got into an argument with Steve but he has an incredible amount of fire

inside and he does a great job of channel it when it come out it come out and today in that time out it came out. Steve's tough

man, people forget Steve, Steve had to chuckle he went toe to toe and chunked him with Jordan yes he did. It don't get no more intense than that.

That part. You know how much shit you got to be talking as Steve Kerr to get under Michael Jordan's skin? Like that in itself, right? Like Michael Jordan, everybody trying to get under Michael Jordan. You know how much shit you got to be talking to get under his skin and end up fighting him? That's correct. But guess what? I guarantee you that day was the day he earned MJ respect.

Yep. Because I'm in. true fashion, I'm sure, just like today, everybody bowed down to superstars and for one guy to stand up to him and get to fight. Like, regardless of what happened, I guarantee you that's the day he earned disrespect. For sure. That's what, I mean, yeah, that's what happens when you're an intense moment on the team. You know what I'm saying?

And you're like, you know what? I belong here too, homie. Absolutely. Like, I'm on this team too. So that gusto, that gusto, that gusto, that gusto come from something, that gusto come from that competitive nature. And you can see that. So, you know, shout out to Steve Kerr.

49 games in. One broke clipboard, I can live with that. All right. Maybe we need you to break more of them, Stevie Kerr. Before we get into this episode, we are going to discuss. The most shocking trade in NBA history involving AD and Luca. We're going to discuss D. Fox to the Spurs. We're going to discuss the Jimmy Butler saga.

So make sure you hit that subscribe button so you don't miss any of these episodes. That's right. Follow this show on all social media platforms at Draymond's show so you don't miss out on anything. Let's move around this league. Ah, man, start with what everybody has been talking about. talking about. And I mean everybody reacting to the Luca trade,

Luca and AD trade. I saw a meme, by the way, it's such a shocking trade. I saw a meme that said, everybody's so shocked that Luca got traded that we acting like Anthony Davis is Hassan White So.

And that couldn't be more accurate. No disrespect to Osama because I think, you know, for Assan to go from a second round pick to, you know, if I'm not mistaken, I think he was an all-star. If not, he got really close. But I think he was a one-time all-star.

But signed a $100 million contract, second-round pick, out the league, G-League, whole thing, work his way back and do that. A lot of respect for us on and what he did in this league. So no disrespect to him, but I thought that meme was hilarious because everyone, and act like they didn't get Anthony Davis back. Like, you know, and everybody like, oh, they got,

they should have got so many picks. Bro, they got, yeah, they got Anthony Davis at 31. Yeah, you got AD. He damn near in every category. Like, he's top five right now in every category. And no disrespect to Luca, but Anthony Davis is a top 75 player in the NBA history. Luca's not that yet.

Now, he has the potential to be that. And he would be 100. by the time, you know, top 100, by the time the next one come out. But Anthony Davis is a perennial off-star, a top 75. And everyone acting like, like he's a nobody, you know, but nonetheless, I think it was very shocking. I personally was at the Warriors poker charity night when the trade went down. And I'm, I'm, Steph's two tables. You know what I mean?

And Steph goes, dream on. You see this? I'm like, you know, I had heard of a, I had heard like the warriors looking at making some trades and all of that. So he goes, you see this? And I'm like, see what? He liked the trade.

I said, they did it? I'm thinking he talking about it something that just came up with us. He like, Luke and AD. I said, huh? What? I walk around his table.

He showed me the phone. I'm like, the question that everyone had. Is this real? I look closer like, it's from Shams. It's real. It's real.

It's real. You can bet you a bottom dollar. It's real. Man, I was at a loss. I'm still at a lost words. I'm still like, AI generated or like,

for real? It still has a hit. I think now it's starting to hit, you know, everybody's saying their farewells. But when you heard about the trade, like, why do you think the Mavericks would do a trade like this? I think a couple reasons. Number one, where were you?

I feel like this is one of those things that you, it's such a big deal that you always remember where you were when it happened. Where were you when this trade went down? I felt like I was at. I was chilling with my girl, and she showed me. That's crazy. And I called bullshit. And I called bullshit.

I was like, man, I had some bullshit. And then I looked and I was like, up, Shams. It's over. It's real. It's real. So when I look at this trade, I think it happens for a couple of reasons. Number one, as great as Luca Donchich is, he was not drafted by the General Manager of Dallas Mavericks, the current general manager.

That's true. And so, as great as he is, general managers have in their mind how they see fit for a team that they construct and how they want it to work. How they see it working, how they see themselves getting to and winning a championship. Now, the first thing people would say is, but Luca just went to the final. last year, so they close. And I'll say, I agree. Luca did go to the finals last year. But what I'll also say is sometimes making it that far to the Western Conference Finals.

Sometimes that can be a little fools go. Look at the Atlanta Hawks. Was it three years ago, three, four years ago going to the Eastern Conference Finals? barely has sniffed the playoff since. Sometimes it can be a little fool's gold when you make it that far. Now, I don't think Dallas was fools gold. I think they made great trades.

Mayor, last year acquired PJ Washington, Daniel Gaffert, who helped boost their lineup and put them in contention to compete for a championship. And they got there. They got close. I weren't quite able to close it. So now, when you look at that, as that general manager,

you're going back to the drawing board and you're saying, what do we need to do in order to get over to hump? Quite honestly, I don't think anyone in the world would think the thing to do is Trey Lucidonchin. I don't think anyone does that. But when I saw the trade, my first thought was, Dallas must know something that we don't know. That's, man, I've been saying that.

They must know something. They must have some intel or something. You know, Lucas has been dealing with a calf, right? Like, I'm like, they must have some intel or something that we don't quite know. Yeah. So that's one of my first thoughts. Yeah, second thought is naturally like, superstar players don't get traded in their prime at 25. In the middle of the season.

I'm not even sure if he's considered in his prime yet, right? Right. But at 25, and you're right, at the trade deadline, like big trades like that. That's crazy. Don't normally happen at the trade deadline. And so when I look at it, I'd say, Nico Harrison, who's the general manager of the Dallas Maris for those that don't know, has, like, when I look at the makeup of his team, he'd go get to Kyrie Irvin that everybody's afraid of. everybody think Kyrie's off his rocker, everybody think he won't be able to be talked to. However,

due to being the guy at Nike for so many years, Nico already had a relationship with Kyrie, and he thought to himself, I can deal with Kyrie. So I'm going to go get Kyrie. And guess what? It's been stellar. Kyri's been stellar.

He's been locked in. So operation successful. So there's that. You didn't give up a ton to get them, right? Like, so operation is successful. Super. So now when I look at that and then I take a step back and look at this trade, my first thought is, or second thought,

here's a guy who you see the Lakers say, ah, they're worried a little bit about 80s durability. They don't think he's a 1A guy, X, Y, and Z. Then you got Nico Harrison, who's like, yeah, y'all may not think he's a 1A guy. But what I know for sure is he's a 1A talent. Yeah. And so with my relationship, with Jay Keir's relationship, because he played, you know, Jay Keir was on the coaching staff when they won a championship in 2020,

that Jared Dully's relationship with AD. I think we can get AD to play at that 1A level consistently. And I think that's the bet that they're making. But more importantly, the bet that they're making is If this ship is going to go down If I'm going to go down, if I'm Nico Harrison, what I see is him saying I'm going to go down with someone I trust Not necessarily someone that the GM before me trust

And yes, Lucas is a superstar Yes, Lucas great But Luca was never Nico's guy And now Nico is bringing in his guy And saying, I'm a swing for the fences And if I fell, I fail, I fell. but I fell doing it my way. And you got to respect someone who's willing to take that stance.

I mean, I agree, dude. He is doing it the way he want to do it, right? Something about the Luca thing, even though they went to the finals, I think for him, it was, there needs to be a final piece. Right. I think they also experienced like,

hey, you know, Dallas got, Dallas got cracking Dallas got hot in the playoffs Luca got hot in the playoffs but it was really the team that played so well right that allowed Luca

to beat Luca in Luca moments and then also when Luca was downed into you know the success of the team right trying to play defense trying to do the different things on the defensive end that's when they won. Those are the

games that they want and you get to the finals and you look and you say hey man my superstar is being put on an island by this entire roster we are vulnerable if he does not defend right is if he does not uh take up on this leadership uh responsibility in the finals we don't have a chance and i think niko saw that and when you see somebody like AD, you looking at, if I had AD in that game with the squad we had with the way we play, we got a better chance of winning that series on the defensive end with somebody like AD. And then stacking the deck.

Now you're the biggest team in the West. You got the most size, you athletic in the front court, you know, it unlocks Kyrie to go be Kyrie again. right um you got clay over there that can be a great compliment to kairi so i think the 80 the 80 for dallas is their upgrade now yes we need to go now everything we putting all our chips on the table we need to go now this 25 year old kid right we don't know if this is if we built this team for him, this team is not necessarily constructed

and built for Luca, right, and for the future Luca. So you would have had to continue to make iterations and keep moving pieces to figure out, okay, is this the right fit? Because you got, not that you got lucky last year, you earned and deserved everything, but there was some teams that were tired,

teams that were hurt, right? And this year is way different. You see the fatigue, right? You see coming back from the Olympics, you've got to know something. It's too much wear and tear. Where is he going to be at 30 versus AD at 35? Like who's going to have, you know,

over the next three or four years, who's going to have that window of longevity and we're going to see where these dudes kind of measure out? Yep, that's a fact. And I think when you even look at Nico's press conference and stuff, the one thing I respect the most is he's standing on it. He gave his reason why. He's standing on it.

And he said, listen, what I thought was a very, very bold statement. And like I said, I respect it. He said, listen, we will see if I was right or wrong. Pretty much saying, I know that this move is either going to get me, make me a long tenure gym or it's going to get me fire

and we'll see if I'm right or wrong and I respect that I will say listen anybody that make a move like that and they stand on it

that who hey dude Jason Kidd was not he was in the meeting like uh-uh I ain't going I didn't go

I do Jason Kidd I never seen Jason Kidd like that. Jake, he was like... Jay Kidd looked like he has a song ghost. He looked like he saw a ghost. I got to be here.

I got to be here. I ain't got nothing to say. He was in shock. That is the face of a coach's shock. What do you think somebody... What do you think is going on on in Jake Kidd, mine, just based off that press conference, you know, what is he thinking?

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see dkng.org slash audio. I think he's trying to sit there, he's sitting there trying to process what it is. like that's in front of him what it is that just happened. Like, I think Jay Kid, I think, I think Jake was all over the place sitting there. Because, again, also, like, Nico said it. Like, Jay Kid didn't know, right? So, like, even being in the dark, like, you start thinking about,

I think Jay Kid sitting there thinking about all of that. It was, like, you just see the look on his face. It was crazy. Why didn't you tell me? Just tell me, homie. Don't let me sit like this. I respect it, though, because they are right. Like, you see Shams, get stories and, like,

a lot of people that be leaking stuff these days, like, it's not like you just got four coaches anymore. Like, I think our coaching staff may be 20 guys. That's crazy. And so all of a sudden, you tell your coach, and he tell his guy on the coach and staff, he go tell his young guy on the coach of stuff right and all of a sudden they get back to shams

and then it don't go through now if you're Dallas and you're secretly trying to trade Luke and it don't go through oh that's oh now you got a real issue you know and so I think I understood it right like everybody's like oh man like how could you not say this to Jake here how could you not but like

in a situation like that where you can't tell nobody you can't tell anybody and we live in this world where people tell everything people show you their location exactly where they at when they're there right we live in this world where everything is leaked to the media so the one time

that something don't get leaked people trying to say that's crazy no that's how actually things probably should be right yeah you know like if you're doing something to better your team you're trying to make a strength it's probably best that you don't say that to anyone. And so I think in looking at that, I think I would hope that one of the main takeaways for people is keep your mouth shut.

Like, that deal got, Luca Donchish got traded and it was quiet, which means everybody else can shut the hell up. Like, stop sharing every little secrets you have to, like, try to get a leg up or gain a friend. Like, I don't understand it. So I respect the way they did it. Did they get the most value that they could get for Luca? People are like, oh, they could have got three picks or they could have got four.

They got Anthony Davis. And the first round pick. Bango. That, you know, we'll see how it goes. Nonetheless, like if they wanted to flip Anthony Davis right now, they could flip Anthony Davis for four first round picks. Yeah, for sure. Right? So it's not like they can't get the first round picks if they wanted the picks, but they're trying to win now.

And they got a guy who helps them win now, not to mention, they just put him next to. to a center, which he loves. He loves playing next to a center. And they just put him next to a big-ass center in Daniel Gaffert and a big-ass center in Derek Lively. Right? So that kills those problems for AD. Yep.

Listen, man, I think in a situation like that where you traded Luca, I'm not sure there's many guys that they could have got back that you're, that you go from, wherever they were in the West to like people saying oh that's the best team in the West like they traded Luca Donchage and people are saying

it's the best team in the West now but then on the flip side like you got people like oh that's still dumb and the right well how are they the best team in the West but it's the dumbest trade ever like I don't quite understand that nonetheless I feel for Luca

because you've poured into that community you have taking that city on made it home, and, like, out of nowhere blindly get traded, I do feel bad for him. That's the shitty side of the NBA.

Like, if Luca came out and was like, yo, I want to be traded, there would be this huge uproar of like, oh, yeah, they were here. You know what I'm saying? Another star player want to leave the team and, like, we need to stop this. But this man gets traded in the dark

in the middle of the night. He literally got traded after midnight. That's crazy. After midnight. Right in the middle of the night, Luca Dantches got traded. and then they're doctor. Luca Don't get trained.

It's crazy. Like I saw, I feel for Luca. You know, I think Luca, if I'm not mistaken, I think he just had a kid. You know, and so like. Just bought a house to us. I heard he just bought a new career. Like, and that makes sense because his home had just got broken into. So I'm sure he was probably moving somewhere with more security or whatever.

But, man, I do feel bad for him. You know, and Luca is not a guy that's going to come out to say something. He's not. I saw his dad said. or something. But Luca, now the guy that's going to come out and say something, so I do feel a little bad for, I feel bad for Luca for sure. Okay, I don't feel

bad for Luca. Why? You're going to the Lakers, baby. Ooh, that's... Ooh, you're coming to the land. Come on, you're an international superstar, a megastar, now it's rock and roll time.

A lot of them games that we was hearing about or didn't see, oh, we get to see that. And You know how Laker fans are. They're going to take it up times 10. Now with Luca, you got you have time. Yes. The Lakers have bought themselves a great opportunity to build now, to compete now,

and start to mobilize how they want to be in the future. Yeah. I'm around a superstar. At 25. So I think at 25 years old. Okay. Who do you think, won the track.

In the interim, in the interim right now today, Anthony Davis, Dallas, because, and the reason I say that, that's a made team. You got Luca, if you're a Lakers now, but now you don't have a big. You know, you don't have a starting caliber center. And so I think for them now,

they have to figure out how to make, now how to build the team, right? Like, you got Bron, you got Luca, you got Austin Reeves. You know, but now you got to like figure out how to build the team out. So now they'll need to at some point get a big, right? And so I think as of right now currently as it stands today, you lace them up, you go out there and play tomorrow.

It's Dallas. But I don't think this was a move that the Lakers was making to say we're betting right now for today. I think what the Lakers thought was, this team ain't great. We're not winning a championship. we got a chance to get Luca Donchish. This gives us a chance to possibly sign a couple guys and compete right now with Luca and LeBron, but also gives us a chance to compete

to where with Luca now, that 2027 draft pick ain't going to be as high as people thought it was. 29 probably won't be high as people thought it was even adding Luca to this roster. So I think, you know, currently as it stands, the maths, but this is a, this is a right now and long-term play for the Lakers.

And so I think as they build the team out, then that can change. But they're going to need to build a team out now. And also, before we say something else, shout out to my young fellow, Max Christie. That's right. You know, his cell phone's to the starting lineup. I think now for Max, Max is going to a team that's more loaded in that position now. You know, so he got to go figure his way out. Nonetheless, he's a Spartan dog.

He's going to do things out there that a lot of those other guys ain't going to do because they ain't been coached by time is off. So I believe he'll figure it out either way. Yeah, I believe that was kind of like the caveat in the deal. Watching Max Christie, his evolution, you know, JJ playing him. I saw some, I saw why they drafted him. I saw his potential and now moving that piece over to Dallas complimenting a Clay Thompson, right, being over there complimented Clay Thompson. Because Max going to play some defense.

Max can score. He can cut, he cut to the basket, he athletic, right? So Dallas is now getting not only 80, but they're getting a young dog, right? They got another young dog that can fit into that ecosystem and way. they build it. 100%. And here's the thing, like when you look at the NBA

and a lot of things I think fans don't understand is like contracts, your contract matters. And so, for instance, Max just signed a four-year $32 million deal.

He's going to get an opportunity and he'll probably get the opportunity over Quentin Grimes because he has a meaningful contract. And that's where I don't think, like I said, I don't think people understand how much that matters.

matters when you're like, oh, that guy should have signed for less. Like, yeah, you sign for less. You're also sending yourself up to get screwed because you sign for less, your value is no longer as high as it was. You know, so if you're not in a certain position and you sign for less, you can screw yourself. And so here's why I think, like, Max signing that deal actually gives him more security than just financial security.

It gives him more security to get an opportunity or two or three because he got the contract. And so I think with an opportunity, he figures it out. Smart Dog, that's what we do. I agree. I also wanted to dial in the Utah Jazz, right? They didn't even know that Luca was being traded. Can you explain how is that possible for them to be involved in the train and then not know somebody being traded?

At that point, do you just wake up and be like, man, the Lakers and the Dallas, who can we call to get some picks? Call Utah. Come on, call Utah. You want some draft picks? Yeah. You got to take it.

Take a good speed. Listen, here's what I will say about that beating. Rob Polinka. It's crazy. It is a little on the lines of morally, fucked up what he did. But I understand

why he did it. But it's a little along the lines of, you know how someone do something and you're like, well,

they didn't break a law. So they can't go to jail. But morally, that's fucked up. And I think Rob Polinka is right there teetering that line

of like, you didn't quite do anything wrong, but Morally, I don't think Danny A. He's going to ever work with him again. Because... No, for sure.

Like, who knows if Danny did the deal or not? But you didn't give me the choice. And I think that's going to put a strain on their working relationship. Because how many times... You tell me this, BD. How many times have you seen the wool get pulled over Danny Age's head? Danny Age did the... Very...

Yeah. Yeah, very seldom. Very seldom in his tenure. Rob Polinka and Nico Harrison pulled the wool over his head. And then it's the Lakers, too. So you know, Danny Ains and the Lakers don't get along. Danny Aege ain't trying to help no Lakers.

He's a Boston Celtic. He's a Boston. He's not trying to help those guys. Deep down his side at all. Oh, man. So for those people out there, I'm not a general manager, but how I would imagine that happened is,

if you call and you're just like, yo, we're trying to get off Hill Schifino, young guy will give up two second round picks, and Danny Ains is going to take him because he's taking all those drive picks right now, then it don't matter. Wait, time out. Are you saying, hold on, I think I know what you said.

Did Rob Palinka called Danny Aange and make the choice, and didn't tell him nothing about this. One thousand percent. One thousand percent. Oh. Oh. That is, ooh.

But here's the thing, though, Biddy. Here's how he can get away with it, though. I'm going to tell you how he can get away with it. Because in that deal, the only thing that went to Utah was Hush Fino and two second round picks from the Lakers. And some picks. Yeah. From the Lakers.

Like, it wasn't like it was Dallas. pick or, you know, Dallas had to give up nothing. No, the picks came from the Lakers, so you didn't have to let him know that there was a third team involved because everything that Utah received came from the Lakers.

But, man. That's a little... Oh, man, he got fleece. Hey, darn. Oh, that is board in line. Oh, that is... Oh, we. Like I said, BD.

That's what you got to... That's what you got come knock a Danny Hage, man, out to see Rob. I'll be like, hey, bro, I got to come knock on your door, homie. You really? You owe me one. That's one of them you owe me one. Like, you owe me one for sure.

This is Lucas Dunchish, man. This ain't like they made a trade work for, can you imagine? They ain't make a trade work for like, you know, they had traded for Ruiz last year. It ain't like they made the trade work for Rui. This is Luca Dunchish, man. Like, they do. They went over there fleece. And you say,

He leased Danny A. Wow. He's for sure. For sure. For sure. You don't see that happen to Danny often. You don't see that happen to sell. Pressy often.

Right. Like, wow. Imagine waking up. Yeah. It was incredible. Good job, Rob Polinka. He got that off. Absolutely.

Hey, he really got that off. Hey, Danny Age, I got these two picks and his Chavino. Hey, what's you thinking? Oh, man, what? Man, let me just get, let me, let me give you those. He's like, thank you. Thank you.

Got two more picks. Woo, let me call, let me call, let me call, Nico is done. Nico is done. It's done. I got Utah involved. They're going to tell. Oh, man. Hey, 30 minutes later.

Roplinca. They come across Danny A's ticket. Luca Don just traded to the loss. You know, Danny Hage is hot. What? He is, look at, he even said it. He basically said he, he was in, he had no idea that he was helping the Lakers. That's crazy.

He had no idea. And then he said, by the time he found out, it was too late. That is crazy. Crazy. Well, you can never, you can never do another deal with the Utah Jazz, a few of the Lakers, unless you go give them something, you got to go get that man something back later in a couple of years

to be like, hey, man, no hard feelings. You have to. Absolutely. It's crazy. But speaking to this trade, how do you think this trade affects Brian? I think it buys Bronin time. Right.

I think LeBron now has a new focus. He is, he is, he now, gets to go out as the guru, the mentor, the sensei, right? And then he still has, you know, three, four years or two or three years with Luca to figure out what their dynamic is because, look, you got LeBron, you got Luca. You ain't doing bad. Yeah. You ain't doing bad.

You can be a contender. You can be a contender if you put the right pieces in place. but a LeBron James, a Luca Donchik, back court or front court, cornerstones or the front court, back court. Come on, man. And LeBron, giving him that ism, I think it probably breeds new life into LeBron

because remember last, I think it was a couple weeks ago, I was talking about either LeBron need to play the point or LeBron need to play the four. Now you got somebody like Luca coming in LeBron don't have to score the points. Yeah. Like LeBron ain't got to come up, be like, man, I got to get 30, 12.

You know, LeBrona is getting triple doubles at 40. And when you look at the Lakers play, he'd get a triple double. A, D was getting 36, 16, and they winning by five. Yeah. Yeah. They barely win it. Against. You know, they struggling.

Whomever. Yeah. You know what I mean? Whoever. Whoever. So now. that's 70. That could be 70.

LeBron can sit and really watch an offensive barrage of one. Right? Luca is a 50-point party waiting to happen. And so now LeBron 2313. LeBron get to go, he get to go paint and fix the game to his liking. And so I think it works both ways because LeBron can set the stage.

And then Luca, now LeBron got another closer. Yes. A real closer. Absolutely. He got a real closer. Somebody who is going to take that shot. So he gets to see a different part of himself where no pressure on him now. All pressure is just him being a sense.

I agree. I think it does a couple things, though. I think it definitely takes the pressure off of him. I think it possibly. possibly buys Brown more time if he wanted even play longer. I think although he don't need anybody to do that, but I think it helps.

But I also think it could speed his time up. And the reason being is they all in on Luca, right? So like if it's not working, it's not... The Brown's an X. You know what I'm saying? It's not like, it's like, well, we're going to build around Luca, so then let's have a conversation, Brian.

You know what I'm saying? And so, however, Luca Doncher's pick and roll being set by LeBron James, good luck. Come on. Like, that's crazy. That's crazy. But I think it definitely, like, it has to work better than just them losing every game. Like, because you've still got LeBron James and Luca Donchard's on the roster. So you still got to win games.

And it has to work better than just losing every games. or else I think, you know, they're going to have a conversation with Brian because you know they're going to have that conversation because they didn't even let you end that they were making this trade. So they're doing this strictly based off what the franchise thing, which means for me, I personally think the next thing they do is going to be strictly based off what's best for the franchise and not necessarily what's best for Brian.

I also think it kind of like say Brian was going to do a farewell tour like Kobe, did like D. Wade did. It kind of throws a monkey wrench in it because it is. It's, you know, like, I don't know. I just think it kind of throws a bit of a monkey wrench. And if

Brian wanted to decide to do a farewell tour, because as big as Brian is and he's huge and I think he deserves whatever the hell he want to do, it's not going to all be about Brian. Like you think of Kobe farewell tour, I think they want 18 games or something. Like, every

Everything was about Kobe. It ain't going to be that way about Bra. It's, you know, De Wade, they might have gotten snuck in the playoffs, but it wasn't, they weren't great. You know what I'm saying? But everything was made about D. Wade. And so I think, I think, you know, it could throw a monkey wrench. It's going to get overshadowed for sure. Yeah.

It's definitely going to get overshadowed. Okay. Here's a bold take. If this does not work. right train luka Luca, Luca play you make the playoffs who knows next year

if this shit don't work with Brian what happens does LeBron leave or do the Lakers say hey this is the final piece to move to figure out this roster for Luke

I think if anything's going to happen with Brian as far as leaving the Laker I think it happens this summer I don't think it's a next year thing because I also don't think I don't think you're going to he don't have to

hot time, but I also don't think you're going to see a LeBron James trade mid-season. We were shocked by this one, but I just can't foresee that. Like, we made a go-out-it-all-out-it-last year, and the one reason it didn't happen is because you just weren't going to get a LeBron James moving mid-season, you know, and so I think

if anything happens, it happens this coming summer. I don't think it's... Got it. Wait till next deadline and see it ain't working. I don't foresee that. I will foresee it. But what is the, okay, so what is the domino effect, right, of this trade to the NBA? Nobody safe. Nobody safe, huh?

And every, and if you're a general manager, you call it on Janus. You call it on Steph Curry. You call it on Laval Jane. You calling on God, Wimby, you call it on God. You might as well. I don't even think you have a chance. Now, if you're a GM, I think the way that this plays out moving forward is you're going to have, you're going to now start seeing more young promising talent get traded because you're going to just get more calls.

And as opposed to before, like, nobody's calling like, yo, y'all trying to trade stuff or, yo, y'all trying to trade women? Nobody's calling the center. You're going to get those calls now all the time. if people just throwing shit out of the wall and seeing if it's thick. Man. That's kind of the way that's the,

I think, one of the biggest impacts on the NBA. And then let's face it, you got Luca Donchich and Laker Purple and Gold. That's crazy. That's massive. Like, it's the Lakers.

It's the Lakers brand and now with Luca Dantzich in it. You're talking about globally? Like, it's a real thing. And L.A. Yeah. And L.

There's a real community here, you know, and it's a real diverse community for him. It's a European vibe here for him. It's a more welcoming vibe for him. So, man, damn. Yeah, I think it changed it for sure. It's a good, yeah, it's a huge domino effect. I also wanted to pinpoint. I was smart because they got off that Supermax.

Because that Supermax is going to kill a lot of teams. Like you were saying, you're going to see a lot of young dudes get traded because now it's like they're coming up on that Supermax and it's like, yo, in five years, is this dude going to be worth $100 million a year? You know what this goes back to, BD? on a Draymond Green show before I was blessed to have you come on

and partner on this show and bring a whole different life and take to this show when I just used to be sitting here by myself talking to a Draymond Dammis Jemond Thomas. Absolutely. I spoke about and I went on a tweet storm

about how fucking dumb stupid the CBA that we were going to sign as players. When it first leaked that we were going to agree to a deal and they leaked the terms, I went on this whole tweet storm and I spoke on the pod about how dumb that CBA was.

And you know, you see Luca Donchers getting traded? Don't for not for one second think that that's also not a byproduct of that dumb-ass CBA we signed. You put in a hard cap. The second apron is a problem. hard cap. And every time somebody get up that second

April, you can bet your bottom dollar, they're going to be trying to trade out of that second April. And so you just saw Luca Donchish get traded at 25. That's crazy. That is a byproduct of the second April.

Of Dallas, like, man, we're going to have to pay him $85 million a year. All right. He's good. He great. But. They're no money for nobody else. Like, we about to go into the second April?

No, we ain't trying to go into the second April, right? And so, Luca Donchards are getting traded and what I have not seen anyone talk about is one million percent of byproduct of the cap situation in the second April. It is 1,000 percent. And I don't think people notice or realize that, but you're going to see more and more trades like that because, us, that second apron, man. That's just a, it's just a nice way of saying a hard cap. Yeah, it's just a crazy threshold. It puts, it puts the team in a bad predicament.

Obviously, it's incredible for the player. But if you're trying to build and you're trying to win and your top two dudes is taking all the bread, you're not. And then, and you're paying them off potential. Yes. You know, you're paying them off of, hey, over these next five, We're paying you off a potential. I just think that, you know, that hard cap and like you saying, that second apron,

a lot of people are going to start falling in that second apron, and it's going to give the team the team. It's just going to be so much player movement because people are going to try to avoid that and you're going to lose loyalty from your young superstars. The next huge trade, right, that happened over the weekend. pretty much when we saw coming. Deer and Fox to the Spurs, Zach Levine to the Kings.

But before we talk about this train, I just want to know, who is running the Bulls? Why don't they care about their franchise? I believe Zach is worth way more than what they got for. And I don't understand really what the Bulls

I mean, the Bulls is a swap meat. I would go over there and they could be fleeced easily. You could have fleeced them out of Zach a year ago if you wanted to. The thing I don't understand is they kind of go through this with everybody. But are you surprised? This is the same franchise that said, oh, Michael Jordan, oh, you said you want to choose the coach? Well, then we are getting rid of you so you can walk.

This is the same franchise that let Mike. Michael Jordan just walked to retirement. They are diabolical. Right. The black cat, the Michael Jordan, the Michael Jordan, your erinous. Like, this is, this is him. Like, it's really him. This league is crazy, dude.

It's not the ghost of Michael Jordan, they let walk. Yeah. They let Michael Jordan himself walk. And so. And it's prime. Like, just won three championships in a row. Like, they let him walk. And so, I can.

can't say that I'm surprised by anything that the Bulls does that's not smart because that's also a franchise that their head coach told them to drive Dre Mine Green and they did it. You know, and so I think, you know, it's just not a smart franchise. Like, they don't do smart things. And that's been proven time and time again. And so you let Zach pretty much get out of town for a bag of donuts. And I just think you could have done way better than that. But also, like, what did they get in the signing trade for DeMardis?

You essentially let him walk for nothing. Right? Like, nothing. You once had the great Derek Rose, and obviously he went through the injuries. You got nothing for D. Rose. Nothing for that. And so when you look at this team, it would be interesting. to see if they trade Vucevic what they get for him.

Probably nothing. Because they're just not good. And you're letting these guys walk. Like essentially for nothing. Like what's like so pretty much you never end up accumulating any assets. And they end up back in the same spot. Yeah, you don't draft well. You didn't draft well.

You didn't draft well. You didn't draft based on needs or based on future picks. They're just picking talent. I want to see Lanzo out of there, too. I think that's how they drafted. Who's that? All right, right. We'll take this guy right here.

Got him. That one right there. That's how they drafted. You know, they're fourth and they time. It's like five seconds. Four. Come on, man. We got some dicky.

It's crazy, man. Right. Run it out of time. Get it. He'll auto drive. I'm telling you, man, it's crazy. So, you know, I'm just not sure how they just keep letting guys walk like that. But Kings came up, though.

Came up to where? Well, you get three first round picks. Yeah. Right? 25, 27, 31. Three second round picks, 25, 28, and 28 back to back. And Zach Levine. So I think the Kings got some equity in that deal.

I definitely think they're doing, let's face it, this this, this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, that's going to be a great pick is going to be a great. Oh my God. That could be the, probably, I was going to say,

could be the number one. That's incredible. 2027 San Antonio Spurs pick is going to be trash. It's going to be trash. It's going to be trash. Yeah. 2031 Minnesota pick is going to be good. Yeah, good pick.

Because Minnesota's trash. Well, let's face it, is Ant Man still in Minnesota? What we've seen just happened last night? Yeah, exactly. Is Ann Ann still in Minnesota six years from now? Nope. No. Right?

Like, so. They got to do the same thing they do with Luca, right? Absolutely. So, let's face it. So, like, that pick may not be great either. So they definitely got some great picks. They got some second round picks of 2025 Chicago pick, which is going to be probably pick.

32, like 33, 34, or possibly 35, the best pick in NBA draft. You know, you're 35th pit. You get 35th pit. You know, you come up on hit gyms. Come on. You know what I'm saying? Come on, man. That part.

So that'll probably be a good one. They got their own pickback second round pick in 2028. Right? So they definitely made out well, for sure. The Kings made out well. But what they're going to have to figure out is they can't all play. All them dudes can't play together. Not only can they all play together, but it'll be interesting to see how far this team goes.

Because if you're not going far, I could foresee them by the summertime having a fire sale. Or by next trade deadline having a fire cell. And so it'll be interesting to see how they play. But I can't imagine. And I'm a huge Zach Levine fan. I think Zach is great. you lost your franchise point guard. Yep.

You don't just lose your franchise point guard and get better. You traded Tyrese Halliburton and kept Fox. And now you trade Fox away. It could be a fire sale in the next six to 12 months. Yeah, Malik Munk is the point guard. Malik Munk, the point guard, Zach Levine, DeMar de Rosen, Keegan Murray, and Sabonis. That's a state starting five.

I don't see a lot of, I mean, if they can figure out, if Christie, Christy can figure out a style where their small ball can work and they can be able to move, move the ball between DeMar, Zach, Monk, maybe. Yeah. But a lot of those dudes outside of Zach, really, need the ball in their hand to create, you know.

Yeah. Damar is methodical. He liked to chop you up. He's on ISO. Malik, he play at a different frequency than Damar. And then Zach, he plays a little bit in between both. But who taking all these shots? Because all King and Murray do is shoot.

That's, I mean, that's kind of all he does. His number one. Yeah, that's all we do. He shoots the ball. Yeah. And so, you know, but he hasn't shot at that. great this year. Ain't no open looks for it.

It ain't no open looks. True. Now it really ain't going to be no open looks for. That's true. Because you don't have, you don't have drive and catch piece of the pink guys. You have ISO guys. So that means you got to wait for somebody

and get hot to get a double team to get open. Right. After what I just saw BD, I'm calling on Sabonis. I'm calling on Demar. I'm calling on Zambor. Zach, I'm calling on Muck. I'm calling on Kigam. After

what, we just witnessed. If I'm a GM and I want any of those guys, I'm calling right away. Yep. Yep. Because they could then make a decision to be like, you know what, we can't win with this team. Let's just move subonness. You know, like you, you just don't know.

So if I'm a general manager. You never know what's Sack. Yeah. I'm calling. And I'm asking for their whole team and then seeing where they land and just see what maybe I want something maybe I don't but I'm definitely caught all right I got one for you Sacramento Kings who's your fed one of your favorite organizations versus the Bulls sack who's made who's made the worst who who's made the worst decisions well let's see I want to say the Bulls but but it's

probably sack I did pass Luca Donchage Pass up on Luca Donchish. So you got to take that into account. They passed up on Luca Donchard. They traded DeMarcus cousins at the time as their franchise center. As for Buddy Love. Buddy Love. I don't even remember who else was in trade.

Buddy Love. You traded a franchise. Buddy Love. My dog, Buddy Love. You traded a franchise center at the time probably to be. arguably the best in the game at that time. Yep.

So you trade him? You trade it. You traded Halliburton. You traded Tyreys Halliburton and got... He got some bonus. You got some bonus. Oh yeah, you did get some bonus. You got some bonus back in that trade.

So I think that's been beneficial for them, right? Like, the bonus has been very beneficial for them. So I'll give them that one. You picked up DeMar. You picked up DeMarre. Yeah, which... It didn't work. I can't necessarily say it didn't work.

it's it's worked what it blew up what blew up now what it could have done is possibly may Fox be like I want out you know like

yeah that's what I'm saying like how does that work you get DeMar you got Fox here and then you don't take care of you're not you're not building around

a core of Sabonis DeR Fox and DeMar you're not building around that so all the other pieces in the dudes that you have

it, like, they don't compliment those dudes' games together. Right? And their bench. You know, they lack some depth. Mm-hmm. You know, so I would, I was still, I'd have to say the Bulls.

The Bulls for sure. Yeah. Just over the legacy. Just legacy. Yeah, sack passed up on Luke Dodgers, but the Bulls told Michael Jordan deuces. And they're And D-Rose.

They can never let this down. The Bulls, I gotta go. I gotta say. The Bulls traded Jimmy Butler before his prime. Again, I gotta go with the Bulls, man.

They are atrocious. Atrocious, to say to least. Damn, both. Get your life together. What do you think about Wemby and Fox teaming up? I like it a lot. I like it a lot.

You're talking about Fox downhill in the pick and roll with Wemby Popper. and a roll into the rim for the lot. That's tough. Like, you got your, this is a proper

big man point guard that we used to see back in old days. This is it. This is proper. And they're in a franchise that know how to make that work. You know, and so, I like it.

I know that was, um, one of the reasons Fox turned the extension down is because I think he wanted to end up in San Antonio with Wimby. So, you know, you see the power of Rich Paul. You know, a lot of these guys want to be traded. And, you know, a lot of people think like, oh, man, I could be my own Asian and I can do this. Or my boy can be my Asian or this agent that I just want to focus on me can be my agent.

The power of having a proper agent. De Aaron Fox got exactly to the place he wanted to end up less. than three months after turning down the extension. He got exactly where he wanted to go. That's crazy. After turning down an extension three, four months ago. If you're not like that right there is what you talk about, power in an agent. Like getting him exactly to the place he wanted to go, didn't cause a fuss, didn't cause a ruckus.

At all. He's got it done. Made sure he got to exactly where he wanted to go. Nah, we're going to get him traded to this place. And then in a year we can get you to San Antonio. You come up. Nope, we're going to get you there right now. Right now.

The power of having a great agent. And I know Fox just signed with Clutch maybe a little over a year ago. And he immediately sees, has reap the benefits of being with such an incredible agent. Yeah. So shout out to Rich Spaw, too. Just getting that done, getting Fox, making sure Fox ended up exactly where he wanted to go. That, my friends, is a great agent. So as you see players struggle with things like this,

know that you don't have to look any further than their representation. Yep. Just like representation can get guys better contracts than they deserve, representation can have guys stuck in a situation or ending up in a situation they don't want to be in. Totally. You ain't got no leveraging, no bargaining chips. And the team don't even have no respect to have that real conversation.

Which are, so definitely shout out to Rich Paul because Rich Paul make moves. Yes, he does. Yes, he does. And he fight, and he fight. One thing he's going to do is fight first players. Yeah. As long as, and he'll tell you, as long as I got you lockstep with me,

you side of it, I'll fight till we can't fight no more. And I think I appreciate it about Rich is he'll also tell you when it ain't smart to fight. Tell you like, I, Dre, I don't think, I don't think, It's a good fight on this one. Like, it may cost this, this, this, and this. Like, I don't know if we fight a fight, we should be fighting. You know, and so he'll also tell you that. So.

Yeah, he, shout out to Rich. We was at a party this summer. And he had one of his young players with him. And he was like, BD, I'm going to bring my young fellow over here. I want you to really talk to him, like, how you talk. You know, you talk your shit. talk to him brought the young dude over we chopped it up and then he was like man get his number get bd number like he was he was adamant about he was like bro this dude needs to be hearing

from you like he like he he one of them was just like he respect yeah yeah and and and he is silver back yeah so like he he he need to talk he need to be talking to somebody that that that keeping Motivated, but also be like, hey, look, homie. You know what I mean? Look, homie. It's your time to Sean. So I respect Rich because he just care about, hey, I need my players to get he. Whoever they need to connect with, like, I always love that about him.

So shout out to Rich Paul. Shout out to Deerrin Fox and Wemby. This duo going to be crazy. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And they got talent in San Antonio. Absolutely. They got some talent.

You don't want to tell you. what I think one of the biggest high since of this trade dayline so far? What? That they got, they were able to get Deer and Fox and not include

Stefan Castle. Oh, that was big. That's insane. That was big. They got Deeran Fox and did not include Castle. Castle was nice. You're talking about one

the trade. That's why I'm like, Spurs, give up the picks. It don't matter. You got your core. Yeah. Like, now you just need to fine tune. But you got your core.

Mm-hmm. And the oldest one is 27? That's great. 26? That's a bet. 27? Like, so I commend that R.C. Buford, Coach Pop, whole Coach Pop doing well.

They held on the Stefan Castle and got Deere Fox. That dude is a gem. That's a hell of a gem. I mean, great teams. make great moves. 1,000% right. Great teams make

great moves. And the San Antonio Spurs that organization has always been upper echelon. Even when they were losing, it was integrity behind it.

It wasn't like, yo, we're going to be sorry for the rest of our lives. It's like, no, we're going to get generational talent. And they were trying to figure it out

with the talent they had. They moved tomorrow in there. you know, now they move CP to compliment Wembe. Now you got Deerrin Fox. For sure. It's a bigger game. Also this weekend, it was reported that Jimmy Butler told the Warriors that he's unwilling to sign an extension there.

I am, you know, I'm kind of out the Jimmy Butler business. that he Jimmy Butler communicated to the Warriors that he was unwilling to sign an extension there and therefore trade talks sent him

sending him to go to state pretty much stalled what was your reaction when you see a report like this? My reaction when I'm a fan of the NBA right? I'm a fan of basketball

so a lot of these things I look at through a fan list not I play for the Golden State works. And this one in particular, when I saw this, I just was like,

man, Jimmy got to be really careful. Because you're, you continue to lessen the amount of teams that would be willing to take you on. At some point,

Pat may just say, I'm sending you to Toronto. Bingo. You know, or it's like something like that. So I just, when I saw that, I was like,

man, Jimmy got to be really careful because you're, you're, you, you, you keep, it keeps,

I don't know. It can get tricky for Jimmy. It can get real tricky. It can get real tricky for him. Like you could end up. You could be back at the Bulls, bro. You could end up without a market. You can be back at the Bulls.

You can be the superstar dude on a terrible team. And they just went for your contract to expire. Right. And they gave up some pigs just to be able to get off your money in two years to get ready for their draft. they rebuild and you don't hold any value. So you plan, you plan, you plan with like, oh, I'm going to go to the contender,

but I ain't going to sign no extension or you don't really, like, and then what you said with this hard cap, right, in this second apron, bro, they, they, they just cut Luca. They just cut Luca water by a Honda. Yeah. I'm telling you, man, it's not, if you haven't, if you haven't negotiated with the second apron, you don't quite understand the, like, the stranglehold that it really puts on these teams.

But for the teams, they got happy because they got what they ultimately wanted, which was a hard cap. And so I just, like I said, when I saw it, I just was like, man, he got to be really. careful you killing the market more and more each day. And it's already hard enough to trade somebody to make $50 million because just to make the money work, you have to give up so much, either a meaningful amount of guys or a star player. You know, and so I just think, you know, with already having challenges with, you know, trying to trade a $50-some million dollar kind. track, you know, you start adding all these things on and I just think you can get real bleak.

So I don't, you know, I didn't take it any other way other than that. And then I would say, like, what is your take on, like, how does that affect the locker room, right? if you watch as a player and whether you're on the Lakers or Warriors and you keep hearing Jimmy Butler name and you see it what's happening in Miami. Shout out to Kevin Love, though. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. The commentary is great.

But when you see stuff like that and you see something like Miami becoming almost like entertainment, what they're not, right? How does that affect, like, talks in the locker room about, oh, Jimmy Butler coming here or if people want them or not? Every now and then you get a guy coming up to you like, yo, is this Jimmy thing real or am I going to get traded or X, Y, Z? You get guys coming up every now and then, but for the most part, it don't come up a ton.

Like, guys go on with their day status quo. I will say earlier today, before we, started filmed before the game, Steve acknowledged it. Like, yo, trade deadline, a lot going on. It's tough. Like, sorry that you guys have to go through this. Like, and just kind of how unsettling it is. It feels leading up to the trade deadline, you know, he acknowledged it.

And I always applaud Steve on stuff like that. Like, Steve kind of always acknowledges the elephant in the room. And he was just saying, like, Steve said, I was traded five times in 15 years. So I know how it feels And I never want any of you guys to go through that But the reality is we're a 500 basketball team So you can just never be too sure But the best way

Steve Steve had a good line He said We're in a very interesting business Where we ask you guys to give your all to the team For the better of the team Give your all And we can up and trade you tomorrow It's like, but the reality is

you put yourself in the best position by giving your awe to the team. To the team. You know? And so it's a very... It's oxymoron. For sure, like a kind of a peculiar spot to be in. You know, just like...

Yeah, yeah. Like, ah, man, I need to give my awe to this franchise. Give my awe to this team and then I can be traded tomorrow like Luca Donchich. You know, like... But nonetheless, like I said, I applaud Steve for acknowledging the elephant in the room. And then also kind of sharing his own experience because that make it real. Like, no, I know what this is.

Like I went through this five times moving up and moving my family. Like, and so I think that acknowledgement like goes a long way with guys. Like where you just don't come in like, all here's filming, you know, all 15 of us on the train of block. Like, you know, it's, you know, so I applaud Steve for that. I think he handled that great today. No, that's dope. That's dope. The thing is, you know, I was traded, I think, twice in my career.

The first time I sat outside the GM's office, and he was like, oh, trade deadline. We don't think we can move you. I was like, they got an extension, take your ass back in there and give me a father here. That's how I got to go to state from New Orleans. The second time was I was with the Clippers. And Vinny the Snake Del Nair girl. Vinny the Snake Del Nade Girl had we had a meeting. And he said, man, we like what we see with Blake.

Y'all doing the lives. Fans are excited. I know you've been banged up. You've been, you know, you've been playing hard for me. because, yo, you've been playing, you've been playing hurt, you've been doing all this, man, we just want to, like,

start monitoring you at the end of the year, start taking off your minutes, let some young guys play, you know, I was like, oh, man, this is cool. He was like, so if you want to sit out, the next game,

you can sit out. The next game was in New Orleans. So I was like, man, I'm hurt. So I'm in the back. And somebody goes, uh, did you hear you again?

traded? I was like, hell no. Hey, bro, I had to walk on the bus. I got traded. I got traded. I had to fly back with the team. I had to, I was in New Orleans. I saw my mother, my sister. And I was like, oh, shit, I'm getting traded to Cleveland. So I had to fly back all the way. I had to fly back to LA with the team. And on the plane, it was just saying, you know, goodbye, Sherry,

like on the team. That's right. It was fucking wild. That's crazy, but... Like, you don't even know. You don't know until, like, you're on the bus. You're like, damn, I am getting traded. You might be one of the reasons why a lot of teams that fly on Thursday, they push their flights back to, like, Thursday even to avoid the awkward...

To avoid, like, an awkward flight situation and somebody get traded. Yeah, you know, it gave you a chance to get a coach a piece of your mind. I said what you got to say. You. Ain't anything of these young. You're saying nothing today. Hey, bro. I was calm, cool, collective, and I let everybody know how I felt after three years of being here.

So what was some of the stuff you said? Just basically, you know, a lot of lies. I had to tell a couple of the players like, hey, bro, I, like, I'm being a good teammate. But when the summer come, I'm going to fuck you up. We're not teammates no more. So when I see you this summer, I bet not see you. It's home and crack it.

I had to endure a lot with the Clippers, bro. I had to do it endure a lot. And then I told Vinny, you know, you're a liar. I mean, the last thing we hate is a liar. And at the end of the day, your lies are going to catch up to you. These players ain't going to trust you, you know. And you can't be a coach.

you can't, you'll never win your players over when they know that you a snake. You know, you know, that's the, that, like a player know when they all in and they're going to ride or die for a coach. But if a coach

is having peanut gallery meetings, sidebar with different people, man, players talk too. Even if players don't get along, players talk too because when that frustrated moment come, they're going to air the coach out for pillow talking.

Yeah. Yeah. And so I just, you know, I set my salutes, you know, the people that was good to me, Jason Powell, a couple of coaches, but I did sit down with it and, you know, give Vinny a piece of my mind and let them know, like, hey, this is how it is. If these dudes ain't going to never.

I was just honest with them because it gave me a chance. Like, I'm out of here. Give me a chance to be honest with you. Like, you're going to be next anyway, sucker. And it was off to Cleveland. But, bro, not knowing you getting traded is, ooh-wee. Like, imagine Luke, imagine Luca, you waking up. I heard AD.

To all them, all them close. Vee, I heard AD was like texting everybody, good win, great, let you go out there and get that dub, like 20 minutes before it happened. Hey, did you, I saw a video and they told. took Max Christie name tank off the locker. I saw that too. I think that's, you know,

that's standard practice. They come around. They take them all down after the living locker room. Yeah, but that was, however, I did think it was a little like foreshadowing, though, like with the man tag coming down.

And then also, did you see that AD interview from like recently where he said to the guy like, man, you're saying it like. Yeah, you said it. Like, I'm on the train. Yeah, like it was a little, definitely a little foreshadow going on there.

Man, all right, Dove Nation. They wanted to know what's happening with the Warriors. Obviously, our Dove Nation. The team is at the top of the news handlines with Shams and saying the Warriors are calling everyone to pair a superstar with you and Steph. Can you share exactly what the Warriors are looking for? and then when there are rumors like this, how unsettling is it in a locker room being the OG?

Like I said, I don't think it's very unsettling at all. We know what we signed up for. Every single one of us in that locker room know what we signed up for and playing this game and being a part of this business. So I don't think, like I said, I don't think anybody walk around. Like, man, you're all calling it.

The reality is, if they're calling for LeBron James, everybody in the locker room except Steph Curry should shut up and know that you can be traded. So if they're calling superstars, there's not a thing anyone in that locker room could say outside of 30. So to walk around unsettling

because they're reaching out for superstars, you can fool yourself if you want to think that that you can do something about that. Your stress ain't going to help you at all. And so I don't think it's very unsettling at all. Now, it'd be one thing if it was like the Warriors are calling for a backup point guard, you know, or like the Warriors are calling. Like, that's one thing. But calling on every superstar, the name of the gay.

Like, that's it. And so I don't. Especially right now. Yeah, that's the name of the game. You should be calling on every superstar. So I don't think that has done anything in our, it hasn't even been mentioned in our locker room. must up. The Warriors begin a six-game road trip on Wednesday.

I want to do something a little different. I want to talk storylines for each team instead of, you know, usually how we talk matchups. Yeah. That's cool. Yes, sir. All right, let's start. Let's start with Utah first.

The Utah Jazz. This team is looking to keep drafting picks, right? They want the number one pick. Cooper flag, everybody is saying, how important is it for a franchise to get the number one pick coming in this draft? And what does that do for Utah with what they're doing? It's very important for Utah to get the number one pick in this draft.

Not to be racist, but Utah is very white. It's like a very white place. And so Cooper Flagg, like I'm sure they're looking at us like their next great hope, you know? and that he'd fit in there. You know, it's from Maine, you know. And so I think that's kind of a match made in heaven, and I'm sure they're doing all that they can to try to get it

to make that match happen. I think for us, you know, they have some good NBA players on that team. And for us, we just got to make sure that we stay locked in. But, you know, because you can easily go lose that game, we don't have any space to do that. But this is Danny Ains. Like Danny Ains rebuilt the Boston Celtics that we know, as we know today, off of this same exact strategy.

And he's proven that he can do it. I think he'll do it again. But it's very important for them to get the number one draft because they can't pay anybody to come to Utah. Right. So you got to get the number one pick because they can't pay a number one pick talent to come to Utah. No. Can't pay them enough. they're not getting one of them

superstars to land in Utah. Zero percent chance. They could get Jimmy Butler, though. He could wind up in Utah as the last resort. Yeah. He don't want to go.

He's going to send Bernie and Pat Off is like Jimmy not signing an extension with Utah. He going to really have that emo hair, them emo bags in Utah. He's going to be a super emo. All right. Next is the Los Angeles Lakers.

Obviously, the new look Lakers being here in L.A. Luca won't be playing. Most likely he won't return until February A. Talk about the Lakers as a threat. Talk about the Lakers right now without Luca. You know, they won, I think, four. They went four and one without A.D. How dangerous on the Lakers, you know, from now?

And then the next five to ten years. Now, you have LeBron James and Luca Dungeons. You're dangerous. Can you figure it out? Can you figure everything out around the defensive side of the ball, losing the rim protector like AD, all of those things? You have to figure those things out. But they got LeBron James and Luca Dungeons.

They always have a chance to win the game. For the next five to ten years, I think, you know, they're in a great spot as far as getting a Luca. And opposite, complete opposite of what the problem that you, Utah has is the Lakers can get people to sign there. You know, you can get people to come sign in L.A. And so they have the opposite issue of the Utah Jazz when it comes to that. But in saying that, the next five to teen years looks great, but it all depends on Lucas' health.

You know, Lucas' health will be the driver of what the Lakers look like in the next five to ten years. Yeah, we need Luca to have one of them Venice Beach bodies. He got to go out there, you know, and get on Venice Beach. We need Luca with his muscle beach body. All right. Next team, one of the teams that you love most and value their expertise. The Chicago Bulls just traded away, Zach. There are reports that they're trying to get rid of Vukovic,

and he's the long guy on the team who will get moved in the next few days. There's also reports that they may. get out of Lanzo Ball. Talk about Chicago. They look like they're doing a swap meet, fire cell. What do they look like? Fire sale for sure.

I think they're all in on Josh Giddy as their franchise player. Do you think? I mean, that's what it looked like. Their franchise player to get them to the top of the lottery, at least. You know, but Chicago's, I'm done.

They're trash. Done, dude. Come on. The organization. Moving along. Moving right along. All right. Next up is the Bucks.

Now, this is a game now I do want to discuss. They kind of got it together. You know, I think I lit a fire under Doc Rivers and the team. I asked you what it was like to guard A.D. and Joker. What is it like to guard Janus, dude? You have to... be ready to go each play. And you have to be ready to use your far arm

or else he's going to put a shoulder in your chest every play. And you will fall and they will not call it. So just forceful, man. The force that Yonis plays the game with, obviously he's a freak athlete, no pun intended. But just the force that he plays with. Like no one can really stop that force. And it's hard to prepare for it because I'm not sure any other player in the league outside of LeBron James in his pride plays with that type of force getting downhill.

So with Yannis, you just, it's a group effort. You got to build walls. You can't just let him shoot C gaps. He's going to get right through those gaps and he's dunking the ball. So you just got, with Yonis, you have to meet force with force. I mean that thing A man in a half Like he got to see a body in a half

That makes so much sense With a dude like that Because he is unapologetic About knocking people over, Dunking on him I like Janice. He a mean dude He's a great guy

But he played me You see him in the CP Get into it the other night No No But CP got into it He got into it Yeah

And CP got it To him out of the night. That's funny. Yeah. They got a tour the night. I got to check him out. But yeah,

no, he's applying constant pressure for sure. Following the bucks are the Revant Mavericks. Their potential star lineup includes Kyrie, Clay, PJ, Washington, AD, and Gaffert. Stephen A. said this is the number one team in the West now. Do you agree?

Oh. no I mean shit we don't know it sounds good yeah right it looked good um but we don't know how they about to rock talent wise what they did as far as like on paper putting that squad together like you can't say they're number one seed

when you look at who's the number one seat okay C like Dallas can beat okay C Dallas can beat Houston yeah Dallas can be Houston. You know, Dallas can be Minnesota. So they have the talent.

They got the lineup. It's really going to be what that chemistry feel like. And Kyrie adjusted back to being a point guard. And AD adjusting to be a four. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a lot of adjusting going on. Because playing the four in the NBA today

is not the same thing as playing the four five years ago. It's two totally different positions. Yep. And he's been saying, you know, every year in L.A., hey, man, I don't want to play the five. I don't want to play to five. I don't want to be a five. Find me a center that I can rock with. The Lakers was at their championship best when I was playing the four. Talk about the difference because you do this a lot. You play four, you go to five, you play the whole season at five. Talk about the difference now. And what that four position is versus the five in the league?

The four is totally different now. A lot of times you could be guard just a shooter or a wing that's staged as a four. It's not really like, you know, when I came into the league, man, I had to guard Lamarckis, Arj, Zbo, Blake Griffin. You know, the list. Yeah, the list goes on and on, right? Like, these were the fours in the league. then, like, you don't really have that now. Like, everybody who's like that now has been converted

into a stretch five or a five that, you know, that could shoot the three. And so, it's just a completely different position. And rebounding is different because your, like, fours are used to bang and banging down low. You're using your forearms, and then all of a sudden the rebound come off and you're fighting wedging for a position.

Now, as a four, you got a rebound in space because your guy is on the wing. So now you got to leave that pain to go hit the guy and you're rebound in this space and it's a totally different thing. So I just think the position requires a totally different mindset.

It requires a totally different game than it did before. The last game before All-Star Weekend features the number two seed Houston Rockets. I called that at the beginning of the year. Remember that. You did?

You said they was just sleeping. Man, they've been looking great so far. There's been a lot of talk about how impressive, I mean, Thompson is. You called that one. He just got a triple-double against the Knicks. His first game winner against the Celtics. We're starting to see he can do it all. Do you think he has the potential to become a superstar in this league?

So I think, hey, man, Tom. I said this last year about both of them, actually. I think they're special, man. They are special young guys. They work their ass off. They're respectful. I got a lot of love and respect for them. They're from the town.

And every time we play against them, they come up to me. And they're like, man, Dreimann, good to see you, man. I appreciate everything you did for the town. They remind you on from Oakland. We grew up watching y'all. like y'all motivated us to want more. We had these goals when we were young that we put together and in large part, dude, like, we were watching y'all.

Yeah. And, man, to have young guys come up to you and say stuff like that, like, it's so special, man. And I'm, you know, last year, when nobody was on the A-Man and a sart train, I said, yo, I know everybody talking about what they're doing offensively, but have y'all watched these guys?

Like, they can move. They can move, man. Defensively, they cover up so many mistakes for people. Like, and their own mistakes, they can just recover. It's crazy. Yeah. But nonetheless, I do think he can be a superstar because it ain't going to all be about scoring. And yet, I think a man has incredible ball skills.

I think he and his brother need to develop their jump shots. But I have zero doubt that they will because they work so hard. And so I know they'll develop the jump shots. And when they do, good luck. But it's saying that I do think he's capable of becoming a superstar. It's a reason they both were top five picks in the NBA draft because they have superstar potential. And I definitely think a man can become one. Special, special talent.

I totally agree. I totally agree. All-Star snubs. Let's talk about these all-star snubs, all-star as a whole, before we get out of here. Who do you think is the biggest all-star snob from the East? Who do you think is the biggest all-star snub from the West? And you can only pick one of each.

I am upset with the NBA and the basketball community over the All-Star weekend. How to hell? There's Lamello Ball. the face of the league, the energy of the league, bringing culture to the league, brother got the number one out,

trick plays, exciting times. Like, this dude is the, the personality we need in the All-Star game. This is the type of game we need in the All-Star game. This dude goes from the number one boat getter

to getting snub. Are you kidding me? How the coaches don't vote? I mean, I was in this predicament. I had a little Mellot because I was in this predicament a lot where it's like, oh, you got to win.

Or like, what the fuck? Are you an all-star? Are you nice? Put the nicest dudes on the court and stop making all these goddamn concessions for somebody who play basic ball on a better team, you know, and can get stats

because they got better. better people around him. Lamello ball. I'm pissed off. Somebody better put Lamello ball on this all-star team. And then I would say on the West,

Luca, how the fuck don't you have Luke on? What are we doing? Yeah. What are we doing? That's what I want to know. Are we turning this shit into like,

A, you, and, you know, just because I don't know about this coaching, boating, like where the coach's head, Like, man, we want to see the super stars and people who are having great years, not people who are having great years on good teams.

And no, you're not All-Star. You don't have All-Star game. Get the fuck up out of here. Give me the show. Give me the entertainment. That's what I want to go to All-Star, right? I want to see Lamello. I want to see Luca, right?

I want to, that's, we're buying, we're buying those people's jerseys. How do you have, I mean, come on, man, like, shit. All right. I got a lamello ball shit pissed me off. When I was in Charlotte and being in the city like Charlie, you kind of like in limbo, right? And so, you know, somebody like LaMello looking at this situation saying, look, I'm doing all I can do, right? I'm trying to be the face of the league. I'm putting on for Charlotte.

What do I have behind me to compliment me? Right. Or if the town ain't big enough to support what I'm doing. Like, I may thought all start the game in Charlotte. Like, I got snubbed and gone to state. But when you in Charlotte, you got to be winning. Right? So they got to put together a winner behind him.

But somebody like Mello right now, he probably like, yeah, what the hell is going? Like, is anything can happen? Right? Anything can happen. And now with this Luca thing, you're going to have these young superstars saying, you know, shit or get off the pie. Yeah. What are we doing?

I agree. And I think even if you take it a step further and look at Fox, who said I want to be, I'm not signed extension. And y'all know where I want to go and got there. Right. So again, you know what? look at representation. Yes.

Representation is the key. Largely determines how you are operated with, how you are viewed, how you are dealt with in this league, your representation.

If you have representation that's going to get ran over, mm-hmm. Forget about it. It ain't going to work. Amello boy, not being an all-star, being in the position that he's in is also a product

of La Mello's and I don't know who a lamella ball agent is. But I do know. All of this stuff that's happened, him getting snubbed all that, is a product representation. Yeah, you should not. He was the leading all-star vote getter. I still think he is the most exciting young player.

I mean, he's my favorite player, bro. I can't even lie. Anytime he hooping, I'm tuning in. The kids is tuning in. And like to have like you came into the season, you got all this buzz to not capture that for the team to not capture it. Right. It's almost like if I'm the hornets,

I got to stand up and fight for this kid and push this kid because from an organizational standpoint, you need that. 1,000 percent. You need that. You need that for a free agent. You need that for like, yo, you should be showcasing this shit out of this kid. Listen, BD. La Mello Ball.

is proper representation away from a great situation and a perennial all-star, and possibly, and I think he's capable and could be the face of the league. He will not be either one of those three things without proper representation. Period. Like I said, nobody's going to be like, yo,

lamello ball was snubbed. He got proper representation. Again, I don't know who his agent is, but I bet my bottom dollar, he don't have great representation. And when you don't have great representation, people do whatever they want to do to you. That's just the facts.

In this lead, you don't have great representation. People handle you however they want to handle you. And I think that's one of the reasons La Mello Ball got snub. Man, if you want to, if you want somebody that's going to be all in the videos all in the executive director's office

all on the PR person heals come to the Jemar's show we get you right come to the show we'll give you the gyms here because I guarantee you not one person in Lamello's camp called and said man

this is also a product of your representation we'll give you the gyms over here baby come to the dream Raymond Green show with my dog BD. Give them the isms. The isms. Speaking of which on All-Star, by the way,

All-Star in San Francisco, I got Steph Curry for MVP. Yes, me too. No question. We need that. Man, we need to, the Bay got to turn out. The Bay got to turn up for All-Star. Listen, it's been 20 years.

They did, I mean, now, thank the Lord for y'all for which I did and how y'all put on the Bay like if that don't happen to Bay don't get no All-Star That's a fight That's a fight it's been 20 years We got a show up we got tech we got music We got the Warriors the champs

Right we got legacy I think the Bay just need to show up Like everybody show up show out You know all-star weekend We got to put on for the city We can be a you know we can't be just going for the pop for the pop culture.

I agree. And I think this is a trade. This is an opportunity too because all-stars haven't been great over the last five years. And so this is an opportunity for the Bay to have like the best one in recent memory and also bring All-Star weekend back

because it's a little, it's been a little challenged. You know what I'm saying? And so I think, but it's also been in tough cities. It was snowing like crazy. Indianapolis last year. Oh my gosh. It was snowing like crazy the year before that in Cleveland. You know, and so, or Indianapolis.

Yeah, before that. In Cleveland, Utah. Snowing in Utah, right? So, like, this is an opportunity in Great City to bring All-Star Weekend back to where All-Star weekend was before. And I think the Bay got to say. And I'm looking forward to it. Come on, Bay. Let's go.

Speaking of the Bay. Run it. A couple more things Bay Area related. I finally saw the preview of the Warriors alumni three-point contests.

I know you can't tell us who won, but how did that come together? Shout out to the Warriors. They invited me out for a three-point shootout. I think it's with Starry with the NBA.

Oh, so you get money. As you see. Yeah. Money. As you see, they had Me, Chris Mullin, one of the greatest three-point shooters of all time and shooters. Mitch Richmond, the Rock.

I mean, we was just doing, it was almost like shooting golf. You know, it was just walking, laughing. And then they set me up, Drey. I'm going to tell you this. They set me up. Young fella, you go first. Like, bro, I ain't, I'm young. I ain't that young.

I'm young. But I need to warm up, too. but hey, baby, I need some warm-up tonight, let me get... No, young fella. Go ahead, young fella got it. And look at Tim. Tim was over there.

Tim was over there. He wanted to get to his cigar. But it was a fun time, man. As y'all know, you know, I'm shooting against real NBA legends and Chris Mullen is... I tell you this, Chris Mullen, he still got a ratchet.

When I used to, yeah, when I used to work out for We Believe when I got hurt, Chris Mullen and Mitch Richmond when I was training in L.A., they moved to L.A. for three weeks, and we worked out at Mr. Jackson House. Wow. So I worked out with Mully and Mitch, like the three weeks I needed to get back to We Believe and we'd be in the gym every day. So I had to shoot against these dudes. Do all they shooting drills.

Oh, man, that was probably one of the best. times that I ever had because I got to work out with legends. I got to train with legends. And I mean, we was after it every day. And I tell you, dude, Chris Mullen do not like losing. Especially, and he's not losing those shooting games. So like me trying to come back and get my shot right and Chris shooting his left shot, I think that was a big reason when I came back from We Believe how we took off and

prepare because I was just in so much I was in flow and rhythm and Chris Mullen just shot my life's out so stay tuned because who knows who knows who knows who wins no yeah I'll be tuned in to see who win but yeah Mully Mully still I'm sure Mully can still shoot that thing Molly got a clip, bro. I'm sure. All right, man. An All-Star weekend wouldn't be an all-star weekend without announcements. I want to first make an announcement and say congratulations to my dog for opening up.

Mesky. Oh, a Ritzie Ethiopian Dominican Fusion restaurant. That's 1,000 Larkin Street and Lower Knob Hill this March. Hey, it's up. Come on. Mesky, tell me about Mesky. You know what? What are we doing?

We lit, first off. It's going to be great food. It's going to be great vibes. The drinks are going to be incredible. Like, it's a bar-forward restaurant. The whole idea kind of came with a bar-forid restaurant. Like, we want that to be a thing. It's going to be great tunes.

But more importantly, bringing some black culture back to San Francisco. You know, this is a city that used to be black culture. And now there's no black culture in this city. Right. And so just really wanted to bring some of our culture back here. Like if you want to go to a spot and experience some black culture but have a great meal, have a great, good, clean, fun, safe, like, that's what we're trying to bring back here. You know?

Yeah, it's a class thing. You want to, like, be able to catch a vibe. Absolutely. Like a real vibe. Absolutely. You know, and so for me, a partner, you know, Guma, a good friend of my Guma Fasil, he brought, he brought the idea to me like a year and a half ago. And, you know, we were kind of look scouting vines. We've been looking at venues for the last year and a half.

And every time that we, like, dang, that ain't it. You know, he kind of go radio side. And I'm like, all right, I guess we ain't doing it. And then he come back, like, yo, I found these things being used. I'm this much further in our planning than this thing and that thing, like just work and head down. And then we went to my wife and I went to a concert. No, we went to see Martin Lawrence at Oracle. And afterward, hey,

was like, man, where can we go in Oakland? Like, get a drink, get some food, something. So we asked Guma. Guma lives in Oakland, and he was like, oh, man, we can go to Sobrae Mesa. And in turn, we go there, we're having drinks, we're eating, and then Chef Nelson comes up to the table. Chef Nelson has two restaurants in Oakland.

And he comes up to the table. We're kicking and we're chopping it up with him. He comes back to. to the table. Then him and Guma proceeds to have a conversation, and now Chef Nelson is our partner in a restaurant as well. Bango, come on. And so, Chef Nelson with his Dominican background,

Guma's Ethiopian. We got an Ethiopian-Dominican fusion restaurant. I love that. And like I said, it's going to be great food. It's usually hard to nail the vibe and the food. You usually can get one or the other. We want to make sure that this is a restaurant that you're coming to where you know you're getting a great meal,

you know you're getting great drinks, you know you're getting great service, you're going to have a great time. I love that, man. San Francisco need that. Let's go. Go to Mesky. We own Ethiopia and Dominican Fusion.

Man, shout out to you, bro, for putting on for the city, for bringing culture to the city because, you know, I'll be up in the city every week. And we meet that. San Francisco need that. The Bay Area need that.

Like, that's what the Bay Area is known. for is our culture as for our diversity. So shout out to you. The grand opening, we got to be there. Dunnation, we got to show up. We got to run it, run it, run it up. Yes, sir. And we most definitely don't do that.

Make sure you get to invite my brother. We set it out how we're supposed to set it out. Make sure y'all come out, check it out. We're going to have a good time. We're going to eat some good food. But until next time, that's a wrap from this episode. the Draymond Green show with the OGBD.

Appreciate you, my brother. Love. Love. Love y'all. Peace. Love y'all. Duff Nation. The volume.