The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show w/Baron Davis: Jordan Poole "sorry" Tweet explained & reacting to Scottie Pippen's WILD TAKE on Michael Jordan & LeBron James

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

Draymond Green opens up about why he thought it was important to address Jordan Poole’s comments after the Washington Warriors-Golden State Warriors game. Plus, he gives an update on his calf injury. Baron and Dray also chat about Doug Christie’s influence on the Sacramento Kings, Russell Westbrook’s comeback while teaming up with Nikola Jokic on the Denver Nuggets, and the new Unrivaled women’s 3-on-3 league. To wrap things up, they reacted to former Chicago Bulls star Scottie Pippen’s claim that he would have won six rings without Michael Jordan and Jalen Williams’ suggestion for two NBA Defensive Player of the Year awards. Timeline: 2:30 - Start / “I Really Am Sorry” Tweet Explained   7:15 - Insights on Calf Injury   9:30 - Doug Christie’s Impact   13:15 - Team's Response to New Coaches   25:00 -  Guarding Anthony Davis   26:30 - Changes the Lakers Need to Make   29:00 -  Russell Westbrook’s Resurgence in Denver   36:15 - Reaction to Jalen Williams' Two DPOY Awards   42:45 - Underrated Player Spotlight: Jalen Johnson   46:00 -Scottie Pippen Claims, “I Win Six Rings Without MJ”   51:45 - LeBron as a Combination of Scottie Pippen and Magic Johnson   59:00 -  Baron’s Best Teammates of All Time   1:10:30 Unrivaled 3-on-3 Women’s League (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #Herd Follow The Draymond Green Show on social media:  https://www.instagram.com/draymondshow https://x.com/DraymondShow https://www.facebook.com/people/Draym... https://www.tiktok.com/@draymondgreen...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The volume. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show with my dog. B.D., what's happening it, my brother? What's up, my dog? Just chilling, bro. Before we get into this episode, subscribe to the Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis,

so you don't miss any episodes. That's right. Follow the show on all social media platforms at Draymond Show, so you don't miss none of the announcements. Now, we got to start with the two. tweet, bro. After the Washington Wizards game, Jordan Poole said, I love those guys over there. I love most of those guys over there. And then you respond with a tweet that says, I really am sorry. I really am sorry. Why did you respond to that? I responded because, you know, like, it's been three years.

Like, let's move on, you know. Where's the love? We moved on. Like, supposed to move on, man. I really am sorry. Like, you know, that statement was kind of like, it was kind of like it was looking for some sympathy, you know what I'm saying? Like, I kind of keep wanting to make me to be the bad guy. I move on, bro.

Like, it is what it is. I'm sorry. Like, I should defunct them. But, you know, it happened. Like, let's move on, man. I even apologize to his parents. You know, I got, his dad popped off one time on the internet. And I went back at him because it was just like, bro, why are you popping off?

And I actually didn't like myself for it because I wasn't even on that. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I kind of had him get me off my square a little bit. Because I've said what I said about it, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I kind of go back. It's over, bro. Yeah, it's over. You know, I'd be kind of going back and forth with this on, like,

I'll be kind of in between, you know, on certain days and like, yo, I know I was wrong, but you can't call the man a B word and push him and not get hit either, you know what I'm saying? So I kind of, like, you know, so I kind of sit in both of those spaces sometimes. And like the reality is the answer is probably somewhere in the middle, right? Like, I shouldn't have knocked him out like that. If anything, I should have hemmed him up.

Kind of was just a natural reaction. So the reality is like, I probably should hand him up or something like that. Yeah. And so the answer is probably in the middle. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, after the fact, I mean, there's a lot of things you can do after the fact, right? You can think about and say what you did wrong. But in that moment, like, man, we don't see plenty of teammates square off and, like, you know, fight.

So it's it, I mean, you don't see fights in the league. It's a whole, this whole YouTube highlight of just people, you know, getting down and thumping, you know, and it happens. It does. It happens. It happens in practice when you're competitive. You have that competitive spirit. But at this point, you know, I really am sorry is another public apology to just move on. Like, okay, I get it.

You know, I get how Jordan Poole feel. Okay. You're going to love some of the dudes and you're not. That's fine. Right. But that's fine, too, you know. But it's over. It's over.

I ain't got to announce it. I think the whole world. Yeah, you don't want to tie to your legacy. Like, it's not a legacy thing. This is not, this is not a part of, like, the legacy, you know? This is more so, like, some sidecar shit that's just a part of, like, the brand. You know? What I'm saying?

It's just a part of the brand. I think for him, though, like, you kind of bringing that back up on yourself. You know what I'm saying? Like, when you do that, you just bring back that moment up on yourself. You know what I'm saying? You just kind of got to move on

and just keep a pushing, man. Stop. Yeah, you got to let it go. At some point, you got to, he got to let it go so he can get back to being who he is. That part. Yeah. And that's all it is.

That's it. But anyway, moving right along. What's up, Dub Nation? We got to talk about this calf. How are you feeling, boss? Man, I'm feeling solid, bro. You know, I keep... It's gotten better each day.

To have a number of, I got a little small tear. That I think... That's true. It should heal pretty fast. Some are pretty fast, healer. So it's getting better. It's getting better each day. It's crazy because it's the same calf

that I had the problem with from the back thing. But I knew, Right away, as I walk to the sideline, I told Steve, like, it's like, it's my calf. Like, it's my calf. Like, it's my calf. I'm like, I'm very confident that it's my calf and it's not coming from my back. Though, like, it feel like a calf injury or like a muscle injury, you know what I'm saying? So it's not as sore as it was.

It's not really sore at all. Like, it just hurt on, like, certain steps with movement, you know what I'm saying? And stuff like that, but it ain't, it's not like, it's not really sore. in that way. So, you know. But you got to be careful. Facts, you know, the calves ain't on to play with. Yeah, that's, I had a, I was playing in the G League.

I was having my best game. Come down. Pop, pop. Oh, fade away, come down on my calf, tear my calf, it's over. I said, I'm not coming back. That was it. Right? That was it, you know, because

every time I kept, trying to come back, it was, it was never, we play on our, on our toes and on the ball of our feet. And so a lot of like our power and force is all about leverage and jumping, right? So, you know, that's, that's calf work, Kili's work, you know, good choir work. So, you know, you have to be careful when them little tears. And people don't understand this. Like a little tear is, that hurts. You're trying to explode.

So we wish you well, man. We want you to get back. I appreciate it. Take your time. Take your time. We need you on the court. Also, the Warriors, they have the Sacramento Kings up next tonight. Are you surprised how the kings have responded to Doug Christie leading the charge?

I'm not very surprised because I felt like Mike B. Just kind of lost the guys. And I think a large part of him losing the guys. was the amount they were practicing. And so I think, you know, just a lot of guys kind of start feeling away about that. And so, you know, they got talent. That's the same team that took us to games seven a couple years ago. But added to Martin Rosen, like, obviously that should help.

And so I'm not surprised at all. I know with that capable love. And I think Doug is probably made, those small fixes with practice and, you know, more Malik minutes. You know, the whole six-man thing is cool, but all of a sudden, we down, we need to get our best guns on the floor, you know. So I think he's just done some things that. Minor tweaks.

Yeah, minor tweaks that was right there within, right there in their face. But most importantly, you got guys playing hard for you. And that is the challenge in the NBA as a coach just to make sure you got guys coming out playing hard and you when you got guys look like they're playing for you uh that go a long way so doug keep it up and he's going to find himself with a job moving forward not just an interim coach of the sacramento kings because one thing's for certain he's put the time in uh when it comes in that organization Doug christie has put the time in just about probably more than anyone involved anybody yeah including the ownership group so yeah you know uh he can

keep winning and doing what he's doing. He's going to have him a job moving forward and it'll be well-deserved. I like to see that. And what you said about practice, right? Sometimes you can be a good team, but you can practice too much. So when the game comes, you start to play like you practice. And, you know, there's a fine line to walk as a coach and also a all in a lot of stubbornness, right? When you got a team like that, because sometimes you don't need to practice that much and guys need to just keep getting in shape,

keep getting their rhythm, keep getting their flow. But if they have to wake up and think about practice, that's the whole iris and practice, practice. But you got to understand waking up and thinking about practice, right? You're not thinking about the game. You think about the practice after the game. if you go get a day off. You know, it messes with the team psyche.

And so unblocking that, automatically your vets, they're going to start showing up more. Then putting your best players on the floor, right? When that is, that's the most obvious thing. And so shout out to Doug, you know, like you said, he's been with the Sacramento Kings from damn near, since I've been in the league, a tough competitor,

smart, was always versatile, but he stuck with that organization through thick and thin. For him to have that opportunity to do that, you know, he's a fierce competitor. He's smart, he's knowledgeable.

And when you got buying from, you know, DeRosen and Fox, right, we have Fox on the show, you know, you see a different kind of swagger. about him off. So, you know, as long as he allowed that to happen, I think that's going to be clutch. But I also want to ask you about, you know,

the difference in the coach, right? Mike Brown, excellent guy, great coach. But in time, usually in times like these, you see teams respond. Yes. Right? To new coaches, just talk about being in league and seeing that, you know, also not having that, right, having that stability,

what that means as well. Yeah, now, for sure. It's crazy because I always tell people, like, I am, I've been very fortunate in my career to be here for 13 years because I am a, like, I am not one that's keen to change. Like, I do not like change. I keep my stuff the same. Right. And so to not have to go through that.

throughout the course of my career where guys, you got some guys that got to coach you every other year or two, I feel like I would struggle with that a lot. You know, even if it's team to team every other year, like I struggle with that because I just don't adjust to change well. And so to have, like, this is the thing that you do the most. This is the thing in your life that you end up having to spend so much energy and focus on.

that to have to make that adjustment every year it drive me crazy. And so I'm very fortunate that I haven't had to deal with that. But when you look around the league, the teams that have the consistency are usually the teams that do best. And the bad organizations that switching coaches every year, every other year,

it usually don't work, you know, and the proof of putting it's right there in your face. And so, you know, if you even look at teams around the NFL that has success, Stillers, coach, same for many years. Andy Reid in Kansas City, been there for many years. Bill Belichick was with the Patriots for many years. You know, when you look at the coaches that have done well, they've been there for many years.

And so as players, we need that consistency. Like, you don't want to be adjusted to a different playbook, a different set of coaches, a different philosophy, is a different philosophy every other year or two. And so I think, you know, for the guys in SAC is kind of like the happy medium, whereas you got a different coach, but Doug has been there. And if I'm not mistaken, Doug was there even before Mike Brown got there on the coach staff that was there prior to Mike Brown getting there, if I'm not mistaken.

And so, you know, that is still a level of consistency for them. It's a consistent voice that those guys have heard for years. And it's not like it's just some huge change, foreign change, a voice that they haven't been hearing for many years. And so it makes a huge difference, man, having that consistency. And like I said, I speak about that from experience. I haven't had to deal with much change. I've changed coaches one time in my 13 years.

Yeah, that makes sense. And then talk about like those minor adjustments, because in that change, it was, a couple of adjustments. And now, you know, people give credit to Mark Jackson about the foundation he laid. When the coaching changeover happened, that's when the Warriors took off and, you know, talk about minor tweaks, right? How that, how you can fix that Rubik's Q and get all the colors working and the patterns right, you have some special. And I think, you know, I want you to talk about that as far as coaching because, you know, being with Kerr, winning championships, you know, your loyalty, right?

And just having that brain trust with that do as well. For sure. So even if you look at like some of the minor changes that have happened. And we've been speaking about the Kings. So in their space, like I said, started Malik Munk, getting Keon Ellis more minutes, putting more. trust in here, giving him more confidence, more consistent minutes that he's getting right. Like, that's one of the big changes for them. Moving month into the start lineup, that's one of the big

changes for them. For us, when we switched coaches, we were, you know, we went to the playoff two years in a row, and some of the tweaks that Steve brought in, like Mark Jackson did do a great job of landing the foundation. But just when Steve came in, the offensive changes that he made was everything for us. Like, The defense was really, really great, and they had got that to an incredible place. But the offensive changes that Steve brought in the ball movement and player movement, and, you know, our offense was a lot more stagnant before Steve came.

And so I think just him making those changes, that changed everything because it unlocked a lot of stuff for us. It unlocked the floor for us. And so, you know, you have philosophical changes like that, you know, where Steve come in with some some principles are the triangle but not quite running the triangle, you know. And I think, you know, so that was kind of our changes. And then obviously when Steve came and I also became a starter, you know, so that was a huge change. It unlocked your potential.

It unlocked my potential. And it also unlocked just different things about our offense. Like I played different than D. Lee, you know what I'm saying? So it just unlocked some different things in our offense that really allowed us to take off. Yeah, agreed. NFL playoffs? We're talking about NFL playoffs. You bet we are. Get in on

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Shout out to my boy, Alonzo Ball, back on the court. We got to get him on the show. But I want to talk about the Lakers, specifically Anthony Davis. How tough is this to slow down a player like AD? You know, we know he's had an MVP. He was an MVP candidate earlier in the season, definitely an All-Star. But I want you to just talk about like the Warriors, Lakers, Jemont Green, AD matchup, because that's always the NBA.

the most critical matchup in this series. Yeah, well, I mean, we got to beat the boys. We've been struggling. Right. And even games that we think we're supposed to win, we've been struggling in. So we can't overlook anybody. And then also when you're coming off a back-to-back,

that's always a tough game. I don't care who you're playing against. And we'll be coming back home on a back-to-back, headed back from Sacks. So, you know, you've got to take all of that stuff into account. nonetheless, you got to go win the game. I don't give a damn what's going on or what the circumstances are. You got to go win the game.

And so that will be our focus. But just even looking ahead past that one to the Lakers at the end of the week. AD is tough, man. AD is one of those guys. It's funny because when AD first came into the league, AD averaged 20 points with no sets ran for him. And so he's one of those guys that he can just get it within the flow. you don't even have to feature him,

he's still going to be getting it. Obviously, they feature him quite a ton. And, you know, AD is, you know, he can put the ball on the floor as postgame, has, you know, got great touch around the rim. It's Midi, shooting three better this year. You know, so, ADD's a tough cover, man. He's a tough cover.

Most guys, you're either too slow and he puts you in space or you're too small and he puts you down on the block. Obviously, we know what he's capable of defensively as well. I wish I would be out there for that game. You always love playing against the great speed. You know, man, like, just when you get a had an opportunity to play against the AD or play against a bronze, like those caliber of guys, they bring the best out of you.

Because you know if you're going to go out there and you're going to get embarrassed. And so I'm pissed to miss this one. I've had a lot of battles with AD. It's always fun, like I said, it requires you to be on, be on top of your game. You come in there half-stepping and sleepwalking. It's going to be a long night. And with guys like that, you got to do your work early

because you let them get off to a great start. You're trying to put out a fire for the rest of the night. Yep. It's tough. It's tough. Speaking of those guys, Brian just said that they don't have much room for error on a nightly basis, the way their roster is constructed.

a lot of people. It's like, oh, Brian calling out Rob Polinka right there, which I didn't take that. I didn't take that as to a cell. He is. He is. He is. He is.

He is. He is. You think they need to make a move, though? Yeah. Okay. Let me put my basketball hat on. If I was a part of the Lakers, LeBron James needs to be the point guard.

Hmm. Interesting. That's an interesting. A.B. needs to be the person that is highly featured in the offense and roam free. It will release Austin Reeves, right? Playing LeBron at the point at this point in his career, he's a great passer. He made great decisions.

And you're not tiring him out. So he really going from free throw line extended to free throw line extended. and low rebounds, pushes on the break, things like that, he'll be able to create this fat, like the Lakers don't get enough fast break points. So the way they roster is constructed, it don't matter who they go get. They are going to struggle, right?

Because they're always looking for the versatile three, four. You had Cam Reddish, you had Vanderbilt, you had Christian Woods, You have all these guys, but I think really they all play the same position in LeBron play, and that's that three-four swing. So if you take LeBron out of that three-four right and put them at the point, then it will allow those dudes to have the, you'll figure out which one of those dudes had an ability to step up and fill in that three, that four, you know, when A.D. go to the five.

Yeah, no, I think I still didn't take that. I felt like I just helped the Lakers. Yeah, I felt like I just helped the Lakers. And help my boy, JJ Reddy, if he won me on the staff, that's cool. But, you know, I'm better just watching on TV and give us suggestions. A lot of film watching a bit on that staff, man. A lot of film watching. Let's go around the league a little bit.

We're going to move around. The association a bit. Russ is playing great in Denver, man. He's 15 and 5 as a start. two of those losses came versus elite teams without Joker. What do you think about Russ's? Yeah, Bruin resurgence this year. And really just what the opportunity he's been given

because the reality is he's always played this great when he's had been in that position with that opportunity. But what did you think about just the way he's bouncing back this year? One, resiliency. When you think of Russ, you just think of. resiliency, he will figure it out. Once he figures it out,

once he's able to play Russell Westbrook basketball within the confines of the team, he's always positive. It's always a positive outcome. And so having somebody like Joker is the perfect match for him.

Right? Because he loves dishing and rewarding the big guy and he's never had a center that plays point guard that allows him to do what he's great at. Backdoor cuts. Get on the offensive glass, right? All those little things from a point guard perspective put so much pressure on the defense. That's fine.

Because like imagine you playing Joker out on the five, shock. He shoot a three. He can just shoot three just to shoot one. It's Russ down there. Right. He is a bona fide. rebound it, right? And he's a force in the inside. So when you look at backdoor

layups, passing, cutting, coming off a pick and row, getting in the middle of the lay, even if Russ is missing, you got a joker there tipping it in. So, you know, and playing above playing above a glass. So I think that for Russ,

perfect fit. Right? For Denver, they found their elevated version of Bruce Brown. Yeah. And that's what they miss. I said that. I said that's what they missed last year.

They don't have that dog that can just go and, you know, make some shit happen. You know, outside of Joker, outside of Jamal Murray, they don't have, they don't have that idle person. They don't have that idol person and playmaker. Now you got that with Russ. And he connected with Joker. Man, they're going to be serious in the playoffs. I know that. Yeah, they are for sure.

I don't think anybody going to want to see them during the playoffs with the way Russ playing. I mean, Russ is playing so well that they've had to, they've had, like they're bringing Aaron Gordon off the bench, and Aaron Gordon was having a career year, shooting the ball out of the extreme clip, and they're bringing him off the bench because Russ has played so well

and their team has played so well with Russ in the start lineup. Yeah, they back to being versatile, right? They back to being versatile. and that's what they needed. Recently, Jalen Williams said there need to be a third team, a third all-deafensive team and two defensive player at a year awards. What is your reaction to two player of the years? I know when I go to the international players ball, right?

You can't have two players at a year. You know what I mean? He got to have a player Of the year So check this out I can agree with him I'm cool with the third team You know third all defensive team

That makes sense You got three all NBA teams Why wouldn't you have three all defensive teams I'm cool with that I'm rocking with that 100% The second or two DPOI Awards Are there two of the VP awards No there's not

So I don't understand that I get what he was getting at Which is I understand There should be one for the guards and one for the bigs or one for like the weak-sized shot blockers and like lockdown the war, something like that. It should be, yes, lockdown award.

Like I see what he getting at, and I understand what he's trying to say, didn't quite come out the right way. And so, which means it's not very accurate. Like one, one is totally fine. But, you know, you can't have two player of a year. You know what he also should have said, BD? What he should have.

I think what the battle cross should be more of is just like who's actually voting. Because again, you can't, the award can go to someone every year and then a week later you can't play in the playoffs series. Like that don't work. And so I think the argument has to be voting process or who actually is doing the voting. Not quite there's two awards.

That just can't happen. I get what he getting at? No, sir. That don't work. Yeah, I think it should be another defensive award that is of equal value to Defensive Year award, right? Because you have, you know, you got MIP, offensive player at a year, MVP. MVP is an offensive category.

It is not a defensive category. So having something, you know, of that stature. Right. Even if it's elevated from defensive player of the year, because usually that goes to big guys, right? Or shot blockers, somebody who let the league and block shots. But that don't mean that they don't get ducked on. That don't mean that they don't get, you know, I don't know.

Defensive player of the year to me means you lock everybody up. Yeah. And teams trying to get away from you. You know, like when they went offensively, the things that they're doing to try to take a score out of the game, they need to be doing you defensively to try to take you out the game. And if they're putting you in action, that's a problem. That's a problem.

I mean, when you go back and just look at a lot of the previous defensive player of the year, like, they had to be on the floor. Absolutely. Or it don't work. Or it ain't working. Yeah. They were the anchors. when I showed up to Detroit

and saw Ben Wallace there with that Afro, bro. When he had the Afro shooting up like that, I'm like, all right, I see what he on. You know what I'm saying? I know what Big Ben on. Or you show up to, you know, a Boston or Memphis and you running into Tony Allen. You know what I'm saying?

Like Tony Allen, it's Tony Allen checking you up as soon as you put your feet on the, Yeah, for sure. Right? It's a personality, it's an energy, but it's also like those dudes made it hard every single night, and they had to be on the floor. Absolutely.

Right? You know, that's it. Man, we start a new segment where we're going to give some flowers to some underrated guys. The guys that deserve to shine that don't quite get to glory for what they're doing And this week's player is Spotlight. It's Atlanta Hawks on young fella, Jalen Johnson, 19.10 rebound shooting 50%. It has been pivotal for the Atlanta Hawks resurgence. A team that everybody counted out.

I thought they'd be fire selling Trey, and Trey has turned it around. I see Trey been checking this year. Trey playing good basketball. Trey playing team basketball. He leading them young guys, and they having an unexpected year. So this week, we got the. young fellow, Jalen Johnson. And my question to you is, is he the most improved player this year?

If not, who is? I'm rolling. I think he is. He's a perfect compliment to Trey Young. When you look at his versatility, you know, 19 points, 10 rebounds, 50% shooting from the field, you know, inside on the offensive glass. you know, fast breaks, three-pointer, highlights, talking about somebody who made that leap,

he took it upon himself to be that guy. What John Collins, you know, what John Collins was for Tray Young, he's at an elevator. Absolutely. Right. And he gives them a certain versatility where he can guard almost one through five with the way that they play. and the way he handles the ball, the way he is a playmaker,

it opens up a lot for Trey to be off the ball and be more potent than the offense. So talking about somebody who has improved a team and also improved himself, Jalen Johnson has put himself right in the category where he's that number two guy in Atlanta. I love it. I think he's playing great basketball,

and I definitely think he's the most improved player, just with the leaf he'd take him I can stamp that one for show most definitely also I have to say if he don't get it close second the brewing

there's brewing brother it's coming I knew it I knew it you know I'm going with Storming Norman right less is more Norman Powell one I want to see him make the all-star

game. If he makes this All-Star game, he is definitely most improved player. Talk about somebody, you know, having him on the show, just his level of improvement, getting a chance and taking full advantage of that chance. You got to put Jalen Johnson and Norman Powell right there. Most definitely. I think Norm's having a great year. I hope to see him being All-Star. It's tough. It's a number's game when it's always tough, especially to get your first one. But, uh, Norris, you know, Storm is definitely approved, man. Since he first came into the league, he was a non-shooter, and now that's what he do.

You know, and so just to make that jump in itself, it's incredible. So, you know, I think ultimately he will get a nod and end up in an all-star game, whether it's getting a nod originally or someone gets hurt, and he gets a knot. But I definitely think Storm and Norm and Powell should and will get an All-Star now.

Most improved player, I will go with Jalen Johnson just because, you know, Norm Just a level. Exactly. Just a level. Like the level that the young fella's going, but also Norm is like

taking more advantage of an opportunity. You know what I'm saying? Like we knew coming off the bench, Norm was getting buckets, you know what I'm saying? Like we knew Norm was capable of getting the buckets. I think he's just stepped into more of an opportunity and more of a role with the opportunity

being there. just taking advantage of it, but I'm not sure I can go most to prove because Norm Ben, I get it. I get it. So that's my only thing with Norm with that, but he's definitely deserving of being an all-star for sure.

100%. Let's go. Let's go. Brewers 4s up. Recently, Scotty Pippen says he wins six rings without Michael Jordan. This is water.

You know, that's when you tell your friends, man, take a shot. What's wrong with Scotty, man? Somebody got to check on Scotty, man. I'm a, I grew up watching them teams, man. I'm a big Scotty fan. Scotty, I don't know what Scottie going through, man, but I send my love because I'm dead ass, man,

because you start making comments like Scottie been making later. And people start to remember. you for those comments and not necessarily for being Scotty Pipping. And I don't like that. You know what I'm saying? Like people try to downplay who you are and what you've done because of the comments you made lately. And I just don't want to see people doing that to Scotty because Scotty is for damn sure Scotty. And that's why I say, man, like, I just want like to make sure Scottie good, man, because saying stuff like that, like he said, him and Michael

Jordan, they never sat down for dinner. Like, to me it sounds like it's coming from a place of You know what I'm saying? Like MJ, he's feeling like MJ kind of never maybe showing him to love that he ultimately think MJ should show. And he's like outwardly looking for that and saying things to like downplay it as opposed to just saying like,

I feel like he kind of said it. Like me and Michael Jordan never had sat down and had dinner to one-on-one. Like I feel like he crying out and saying what he's really crying out for and about. And like make that happen, man. Like somebody get MD Jay and Scotty together because

if he feel like he needs that, like... It ain't going to happen, hey, no, dead ass, though, Biddy. Check this out. Check this out. Hey, bro. It ain't going to happen.

Check this out. I don't think it's going to happen. I'm not saying I'm Scotty. I'm not saying I'm Scotty. But what I am saying is if somewhere down the line 20 years from now I want to have dinner with Steph Curry, I would hope that I can have dinner with Steph Curry.

You know what I'm saying? That's different. With all that you've been through with somebody, like you go through these journeys and winning championships, them shit's not easy. And to go on those journeys and not even be able to sit down and have dinner, like I feel like that's Scotty's outcry. And so.

But Michael Jordan don't eat dinner. Michael Jordan do eat dinner, man. The black cat, man. We ain't never heard about Michael Jordan having dinner with nobody. And that's fine, but he also ain't won't. Like, it's Mike and Scottie, man. Like, it don't matter if he hasn't done with anybody else. It's Scotty, man.

He need that. I know. No, he do. Scotty need that, man. Scotty crying out for that. He is crying out for that. But, you know, shout out to Michael Jordan, right? Of course.

Michael and Jordan, don't give. Hey, fly. He ain't tripping at all. Of course he not. You feel me? Hey, Michael Jordan. is not tripping, okay? Huh?

Who? What? Dinner? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I wonder why he didn't go to dinner with Scotty. It's all making sense. Now, when you look at the whole picture,

it's all making sense now, though. Man, I'm here to hoop. Michael Jordan was like, I am here to hoop. I do my job. I'm here to do my job. I'm not here to be friends with you. I'm not here.

to be for his on this court. Oh man, we family. I love y'all. Scott. And so Michael Jordan's defense,

every time he speaks in an interview, he always say Scotty. Yeah, he does. Michael Jordan will never say Michael Jordan what I'll say, Scotty Pippin.

That's a fact. Right. Michael Jordan always say Scotty, bro. But Scottie always say, okay, I get it. He should.

Michael, George, if you hear me, if you can hear me now, please, bro, go sit down with your dog. You know what I mean? Y'all chop it up. We need to see a Michael Jordan. Maybe we can do a Michael Jordan, Scotty Pippen interview, right? Because. Right here on the Draymond Green, the Band-Dain show.

Come on. Right here. Come on, Michael, George. Look, I got my ball head. Just like my, I know, hey, I know how Mike feel because when I cut my hair off, No. I want to have dinner. These are ball head thugs.

These are ball head thoughts. Mike. Black cat. Mike. M.J. Scottie Pippin is a legend. He's a legend. Pip Niji. Pip Nijie, man.

But we got to do a better, I say this. We got to do a better job of top. about how great Scotty Pippen was. For sure, but he ain't going to get it doing this dumb shit. No, he got to chill. Let us do the talking, let us do to compare Scotty Pippin to different people. That man said LeBron James Chase his ring. I got my, like, bro, you're not going to say you better than Brian.

Come on, Scotty. That's not the way to get people to say you better. That's crazy. This is what I do say. LeBron is more of a combination of Magic Johnson and Scotty Pippet than he is compared to Michael Jordan. And that's fine, but he's a combination of Scotty and Magic, which means Scotty stop.

Yeah. Scotty. I'm just saying. I'm better than him. Maybe he can say that to stop. That's how, he implied. Scotty got six rings, man. Yeah, no, for sure.

Nobody taking that away. He can pop that. No, you can. But like some shit at a certain point, like for instance, all right. So, so pretty much what you're saying is this. You're pretty much saying I can walk around saying, don't do that. Don't do that.

No, I'm just saying. Like, you don't do that. Don't do that. You see? Don't do that. Exactly. Don't do that. That's not even.

I'm better than Kauai. Now, take that. Come on, dude, that's not even close. I'm better than Kauai. That's not even close. No, but that's what you're saying. That's, you and Kauai don't even play the same position. I agree, but like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

That's not close for LeBron's Scotty Pippin either. Like, not close. Stop it. Yes, it is. Yes it is. No, see. What?

Yes it is. Yes, it is. Hey, you tripping. I'm saying, Scotty Pippin is a three. LeBron is a moh of Scotty Pippen meets magic. No, LeBron is a moe

of LeBron. Right, he's a one-of-one. For sure. But when you look at LeBron's game, Magic Johnson, Scotty Pippin, right? And all of the ism

that make LeBron LeBron, right? Mm-hmm. And so Scotty Pippin is looking at it. Like, man, I'm a three, he is three? You know, and Scotty Pippen puts himself as he should in the upper echelon of threes.

Here's the thing, though. Bronn ain't never really even been in three. He really like a point guard. And he came in as a point guard. But even if you want to say bronze a three, great. Say it a three, say you a four. I really don't give a damn. Bron and Scotty Pippen is not in the same category.

They are not in the same category. That's just not the case. I said Scotty Pippen, he as a three has won six championships. No, and that's great. So he's standing on his six championships. Can I respect it? He's standing on I killed in the finals, defensive player of the year. stars, he's standing on all that.

I think, you know, when he compare himself to Braun, that's just having confidence in himself. Brown has had Scottie's career minus the rings twice. For sure. Like, minus the six ring. He's had Scotty's career twice.

Scotty messed up. If not three times. This last one. He's had Scott. Scottie messed up with this last one. Hey, come on, Scotty. I'm on Scott Bricide, by the way. I got nothing but love for Scotty, but come on, Scott. You're not winning those six rings without in- -J-old.

Come on, that's ridiculous. If that's the case, then when MJ left, you would have kept winning the rings, Scotty. Like... You would have won't have won't back in the game. You know what I'm saying? Like, come on, Scotty. We want to win back in the game.

It's ridiculous. And then you try to justify the BD. I can't believe you just tried to justify that. That's crazy. I didn't try to justify nothing. I was speaking from his point of view. Yeah, I'm pissing you off today. Yeah, I'm listening to him off.

Very accurate. Magic Scotty Pippet, right? That is when you look at LeBron's game, he embodies both of those players. I ain't wrong. Very, very, very, not like MJ? No.

Him and MJ not the same player. Not even close. Yeah. They're not the same player. Not even close. Yeah. No, totally different games.

Yeah, Kobe MJ. LeBron, Magic and Scotty Pippen has a hype. No, stop that. Magic. Again, I'm a Scotty Pippin fan. Scotty Pippin does not

belong in the category with Magic Johnson and LeBron James. I'm sorry. Scotty is the legend. I'm sorry. Scotty just cannot go and that. Scott and

in that category, bro. Zero disrespect to Scotty Pippet. But he cannot go in the category with LeBron James and Magic Johnson. I'm not putting them in the category. Come on. No.

He just like, the greatness of Magic Johnson, the greatness of Scotty Pippet, mix that all together. You get LeBron James. I don't know. That's too simple. I'm not saying like

those are both special players. But I'm saying like, that ain't going to get it done. Let me think. Think about it, bro. And then it's somebody, and then it's, and then it's, and then it's, and then it's, LeBronism, right? It's his, is his approach and his swag. But if you think about magic and you think about how Pippin play, right?

Like, that is the cornerstone of the greatness of LeBron Jones. I'm just saying. I'm moving my mind. He's equally as great, right? Like Scotty Pippen's greatness, defense, all the things he did. Then you got magic with the, ooh, and just the magic.

Then you add what LeBron got with the hops, the athleticism, the strength. That's like, bro, he's the perfect combination of them two and Carl Malone. I'll tell you what, so I had to just move my mind paths them being in the same category. And what I had to allow my mind to do,

was combined the two players. And combining those two players is like, that's insane. That's insane. That's the LeBron James. That's what I'm saying. And so I can follow you a little bit. Then you had Carl Malone in there like, that's saying a lot. All right.

I rest. He built like Carl Malone. LeBron James is built like Carlelo. I rest. He is the same size is Carl Malone. Which is crazy. That's crazy. That makes no sense, man.

That's ridiculous. That's crazy. I had to guard him. I had to guard him. Yeah. Yeah, he's like guarding Carl Malone and Magic Johnson all in the same one. Right. For Brian to be the same size as Carl Malone, for those of y'all that's never seen

Carl Malone in person, that man is massive. Man. That's the massive. Godly. And Brian, him and Braun actually is the same size, which makes notes. That's crazy, bro. I'm telling you. All right, man.

at me weekly questions from the fans Barron love to Ball 20 Barron who would you say as your best teammates of all time Oh man that's We go with Montaella Stack Jack

Matt Barnes Jay Rich Willie Lee Scott Al Harrington Then you go David Wesley You go Big Cat Jamal McGlure. You think about when I had the Nix,

Chey, well, Mello, Shump, J.R. Smith, Amari. Like, we was tight then, too. Did you go with Amari to, like, the place where it's taking the red wine baths? I was on the team team. When they shot that, that was up. And then one of my all-time favorite teammates, I didn't play with him for a long time.

is Zbo, Zach Randolph. Oh, gee. Zach Randolph is the funniest dude I've ever met in my entire life, bro. Zybo. We got to get Zeebo on the show. Hey, bro, I got a Zeebo story. He was playing Mike Dunleavy. And so before a practice, you know,

Mike Dunleave was one of them coaches like, you're going to practice for three hours. He is going to talk and instruct for, two hours and 30 minutes, probably 215. So I'm like, man, damn. You know, another practice, I start going to the bathroom. You know what I mean? Like, oh, let me go sit.

Let me go sit. Let's start. And wait till I, you know, wait to the trainer come give me, right? So I'm in the bathroom. We just trade for Zibo. You know, I'm like doing my little routine, like kind of hiding in the bathroom and shit. and then I hear the stall open. I'm like, damn, man, this's the trainer.

Everybody says, all right, come on practice. All right. I know Zach been coming. So somebody comes sitting a stall next to me, right? So it's the other, it's the next stall. So I'm like, oh, damn, you know, I'm trying to be quiet, right? People are like, where be there? I hear, man, shit, I got six bitches right now.

They're ready to go to $2,500 a piece. And I'm like, oh, shit, what's going on? You're like, man, this blue eye, I got the blue eye bitch. And so I come off the toilet, bro. I go. Hey, bro. Hey, bro, I'm just letting you know. You're like, oh, yeah, you hear me selling my dogs.

I got these, I got these pit bulls. I said, bro, you got to be the realest doing everybody. I was going to sell dogs. I was like, why? I said, I thought he was pimp for the year, dude, the way you were. He was loud, man, we was laughing like shit. During practice. No, this is like right before a practice started.

You know, Zivo called. a practice for, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Hey, you know so and so? Like, yeah, oh, man, he used to be highly hood. Now you highly would. That's what I'm not. Hey, bro. Hey, Zvote, hey, we had a yoga instructor.

And we used to have to do yoga before, you know, before practice with the clippers. And the yoga dude, he was like, all right guys just, you know, down, you know, down dog. Zamo was like, man, shit, what's all this shit about? I just need to do some of these, some of these, some of these. I'm ready to play. Hey, bro, he checked out, hey, he checked out the yoga shit so fast.

He was like, like that out. He never came back. He was like, man, I ain't doing that shit. I can't do none of that shit. I just going to help me play basketball. The younger dude was like, man, you got a stretch. He was like, man, this shit ain't going to help. Hey, dude.

Oh, yeah, DeAnd J. Joy, I did DeJ. join. I had some Clippers, Craig Smith. I had some young dudes. This, man, every teammate in the world he doesn't have. Man, I love my teammates. I had a good rapport. I had good rapport with my teammates, man. You know, like that was my thing.

When I went to a team, I was always trying to, like, figure out how to make everybody comfortable and give them confidence. How can I connect with you to give you some confidence, trying to understand your story, your struggle? Whatever it is you're trying to do, bro, I'm trying to help you overcome that when we get on this court. You know what I mean? So that was kind of, that was my thing. I respected as a leader. Thank you, brother. I follow after you, baby J-Mond.

That's what they call me at the race. Women B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-W, what do y'all think about the unrivaled 3-on-3 Women's League? Have you checked any of the games out? Not really. I saw, like, a couple. I watched maybe, like, two seconds of it. I got upset. I was watching, I don't even know what team it was, but Sabrina Yenescu was playing.

And, no, I saw her contest on the three, and I was, shit, I turned the TV off. Because her contests on the three. It wasn't real. It was just like, it was just kind of a little tired. And when I saw the contest and it was a little tired, I was just like, yeah, this ain't, this ain't it. This ain't to answer. Like, you know, I have to try.

I try to be very careful with my words because the women's players, get really upset at me. They're coming for you. They like to be hard. They be coming at me, but I just got to tell the truth. Because I had a lot of respect for them women hoopers. They are great basketball players. And I understand, you know, the need and not wanting to go overseas.

And like, I understand all of that. But I'm just not sure three-on-three league is the answer. Because it's a different, it's not the same. thing. Like, for the brand of basketball that we know these women for and what they're great at, like, I'm sorry, but me watching Sabrina Yinescoe playing a three-on-three league, I'm not getting the real Sabrina Yenesco that I just watched one of the WNBA NBA finals. She's not playing the same game. Like, you can take some of these three-on-three teams from that unrivaled team, and, you know, they've been practicing now, so they'll be better, but they could possibly run up against

one of those real three-on-three teams that this is what they've been doing. doing for 15 years and lose. And yet, if you put them in a 5-0-5 game with that same team, they beat them by 60. But it's just a totally different. It's a totally different brand of basketball. And I just don't think, you know, when you look at growing the women's game that a three-on-three league is about to grow the women's game, you know, they're going to make money. And, you know, their whole thing is we're making more money.

the average salary is higher than the max salary or something like that in the WNBA. Like I get all of that. And I want to say first off, we backtrack a little bit. Kudos to Nafisa and I think Stewie for even getting this off the ground like this because starting any league is impossible.

So for them to get it off the ground, I want to make sure that I do let them know that I respect that just the business of getting that off the ground is impossible and they did it. So I respect that. But like I said, I just don't think that a three-on-three league is the answer. And it's showcasing these women's game, like it should be showcased for the growth to continue to be the growth. And so I think the answer is somewhere between like you got to get more WNBA games.

You know what I'm saying? You got to get the season longer. You got to get all of those things. But I just don't think the answer to their ultimate problem. Like, yeah, it's just three on three. You know what I'm saying? It's a good fix, right? Like, to make more money, like it works.

But it's not the final answer. I just don't think so. Yeah, I mean, I watched it. I have to agree with you. Watching it, I feel like I'm more afraid of because it's like summer runs. It's a competitive summer runs that. you know, you're prone to injure. Okay.

Number two, I would like to discover new talent, right? And be introduced to new talent. Right. So I think the superstars playing, right? I don't think that it elevates their start-up. Right? Because there's a mystique, right? About a superstar that you cannot pay me enough to play.

Now, I get it. They're making money. This is cool. I like the league. I like the, you know, I like seeing the women hope. But in a three-on-three setting, when you're looking at matchups and one-on-one matchups and, you know, one at a time, it takes two, like, the quarters are hell of long. You know what I mean?

But there's no matchups. I want to see a matchup that I can buy into. I want to see a matchup where certain people are going out. at each other or new talent being discovered going at somebody. So for me, I think I want to keep watching. I'm fully in support of women-owned, women-led women-invested league. I want to see this league grow into something of its own where it is a discovery of talent,

but it also is a place that we want to watch more women's basketball. My only issue is when the superstars are playing in the offseason and it's highly competitive, you are more prone to injury. And they don't travel. So if they travel, then you can build the fan base. But I think it's hard to be in one space, one place to watch the same. back drive the same setting and not have the energy of the fans a part of it whether it's a big you know whether it's a big arena or a small arena you I want to see

different cities yeah and if they traveled the game it would expand the game so that's just you know me putting my thinking hat on as a part if they wanted to hire me that I would be cool too I respect that you you played in the big three Like, what should, like, do you see some comparison to the big three in this league? Absolutely not. The big three ain't helped the game of basketball grow one bit. No disrespect to Q. Love what they're doing, but it ain't helped to grow at all.

Yeah, the intentions of the Big Three is not pure. They are doing a service, right, to our sport, giving people jobs, giving people outlet. So I always support that. but I don't really think that the big three is as tightly organized and structure as a rival. Right. But playing in the big three, it's tough because it's half court. People are in shape, people not in shape. You're frustrated, you're tired.

But the cool thing about the big three was when I played, I got a chance to play against those that I played against those that I was teammates with. That was my home voice. But I don't think, I think half courts. I like the full court versus the half because I always say like, man, it's just, you're watching motherfuckers brick all day. Yeah. And Jemont, I'm unstoppable in three on three.

I just got hurt. He was ass. Unstoppable. He was ass out there. Unstable. Hey, bro. Unstoppable. Oh, you.

Leave these cheeks. Unstoppable. You know what my thing was? I was like, well, nobody could guard me when I was in the league. What makes them think that they're going to be able to guard me thing off there? Can't move no more. Now that left to right, right to left. That don't work no more.

Jamon, I'll post you up. I'll post you up and get buckets on you. I can't see you. I can't see you. You can't put in the box on me. Hey, hey, defense of clarity. Are you hear that? I will post you up.

bro and get buckets on you when Kyle Lahr retired and been retired for about five years y'all should have a post matchup bro he too come on that's that's the little homie y'all shall have a post matchup where the big dogs you got to think they used to put all big guards threes you you man you're right in that wheelhouse just I you ain't want to see me two jump look you don't want to see I'm like Akeem Elijah wound down there. I probably would a guard that drew up with my... Hey, hey, hey, look, man, Akim seen me when I was with the Knicks,

when he was working out Amari, he was doing the workout. Man, there's an ultimate compliment ever. Akeen, I'm walking on the court, I start rebounding at the end. Kame walked off the court. He said, man, he don't know you right here. He could have...

Wow. Wow. If I'm lying, I'm flying, bro. J-Mond. Wow. Hey. Come on. Oh, hey. Listen, though.

Open unders. Listen, though. He gashed to relax. No way. He gash. I want the fans to pull up make a Baron Davis post highlight so you can watch it. And then you tell me, oh, I can guard him in the post.

I used to watch Bear Davis. No offense. You are the defensive player of the year. But I am unguarded. I used to watch Barrettable. I used to watch Barrett. Sorry, I remember you posting up, but fuck out of here, man. You wouldn't score.

You're too little. Yeah, stop me. You were scoring. Crazy. Oh, Chuck. He's going. Oh, jump hook. Oh, uh.

You ain't get none of that. It's a lot. You know all them files you be doing? Man, Am once. You ain't got a lot. You ain't strong enough to take me down. And what? Oh, and what?

This is ridiculous, man. I'm trying out next year. I'm telling you. We'll see. I'll provide the clips right here on the show. I'm going to embarrass me. I'm going to embarrass this guy. I'm not embarrassed this guy.

I hope y'all enjoyed this episode. So, BD, I got to get out of here. B.D. is, um, he's trying. This is ridiculous. Yeah, this is the night. I can't help myself. It's been a long night. We love y'all.

We appreciate y'all. Until next time, that's a wrap from the Dremont Green Show. With the main man B.D. Barron Davis, the man himself, the man to miss the legend. That's a wrap, y'all. Peace. Yeah. The volume.