The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Draymond Green Show w/Baron Davis: Steph Curry BELONGS in NBA GOAT convo, Warriors 9-1 with Jimmy Butler

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

Draymond Green and Baron Davis react to Stephen Curry going OFF in the Golden State Warriors' win over the New York Knicks. Dray says Steph lighting up the NBA in Year 16 puts him undeniably in the GOAT conversation alongside LeBron James and Michael Jordan. Dray and Baron also break down the Dubs going 9-1 in their first 10 games with Jimmy Butler since he traded from the Miami Heat, Steph's classic 2016 performance against Kevin Durant's Oklahoma City Thunder, the flagrant foul called on Dray against the Charlotte Hornets, Golden State's upcoming matchup with Cade Cunningham's Detroit Pistons, LeBron surpassing 50,000 career points (regular season and playoffs) in the Los Angeles Lakers’ win over the New Orleans Pelicans, KD getting into it with Phoenix Suns head coach Mike Budenholzer in their win over the Los Angeles Clippers, and Dallas Mavericks guard Kyrie Irving tearing his ACL against the Sacramento Kings just a few weeks after the team traded Luka Doncic for Anthony Davis. Timeline: 2:30 - Start 3:00 - Dray's triple-double vs. Knicks 5:20 - Steph Curry's GOAT case 29:15 - Favorite Steph performances 32:30 - Dray's flagrant foul vs. Hornets 35:45 - Warriors 9-1 with Jimmy Butler 41:30 - LeBron passing 50k points 52:00 - KD & Budenholzer's exchange 56:00 - Kyrie Irving's ACL injury (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #Herd Follow The Draymond Green Show on social media:  https://www.instagram.com/draymondshow https://x.com/DraymondShow https://www.facebook.com/people/Draym... https://www.tiktok.com/@draymondgreen...See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The volume. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show with my brother, B.D. What's happening? What's up? Big Dog. That's chilling, bro.

You know, I'm just doing it. Before we get into the show, y'all remember to subscribe to the Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis so you don't miss any episodes. Today, we got a lot to cover, so let's get right into it.

But don't forget to follow us on all social media. That's at Dreemann Show. Dub Nation, what's happening? Birthday boy with the win. My dog. Damn near triple double. Okay.

You know what I mean? The garden. You know what I'm saying? Come on, yo. You're in the garden. Steph, another legendary performance. He 13 and 1 in the garden, by the way, if you count the guys with Davidson.

Man, just how are you feeling? and talk about, I love what I'm saying. I love this triple double. Because remember I was like, dude, we got to start stacking these double doubles for defensive player of the year. So come on, man. How are we doing?

What are we talking about? Feeling amazing, bro. Had the double double with Charlotte. Definitely should have had one last night, probably a triple double. But that first half of them back to backs, man, the legs being noodlely. No, nootally, first half of them back to backs, man.

So I'm feeling good, man. I feel like I've been way more aggressive as of late, which I feel very comfortable with. Having Jimmy has really unlocked more of the aggressiveness for me because everything he's talking to me about is, yo, we need somebody getting to the room, get downhill, go, go, go. And then obviously also the attention he draws, you know. It's opened up the floor and created different opportunities.

So, you know, I feel like I feel like I'm playing well, though, but man, that performance in the garden last night. That was crazy. Stuff put on the- Jimmy took over the game. You managed the game well. I felt like I played pretty good, you know? I feel like it's coming together for us, bro.

Like, that was a big game for us, and obviously they ain't had a cat. But to show, it's always fun playing in the garden. man, and I didn't realize the success we've had. Like, I, I remember frequently winning there. But I didn't realize you all dominate there.

Dominating there. That's impressive. You know, there's Steve telling stuff. Come on. Yeah, then Steve telling me, come on, man. Hit the night, night, Sally. Come on, man. What's on that about? Yeah, I really, y'all feeling it, though. I like it, man.

Even after the game, Shaq, saying I demand fans to start putting stuff in the go conversation. You've been talking about this. I agree. I believe that he's, he was the next evolution of a game changer and an evolution of the game. Um, he should be in that conversation.

Uh, he 100% is in that conversation and he 1,000% belongs in that conversation. Uh, when you talk about what he's done, what he does on the basketball court, there's no one in the history. of the NBA. And with all due respect to LeBron James,

would all do respect to Michael Jordan, with all due respect to my favorite player of all times, the great Shaquille O'Neal, there's no one in the history of the NBA that has been schemed against and guarded the way Steph Curry is guarded. I mean, you, like, teams throw their whole defense at him. I've played in the NBA finals

against the Cleveland Cavaliers. and got wide open layups, dunks, and transition because he's running on the wing, and they'd rather go run and take the three away from him on the wing and give me a dunk. Kevin Durant, one of the greatest scores we've ever seen, got wide open dunk straight down the lane because Steph Curry's on one wing,

Clay Thompson on the other wing, and they just run. But Steph Curry, who I'm speaking about right now, The defenses that he's faced, still to this day, he's in year 16. And teams still throw three and four defenders at him on the given position. You know, by how much he gets splits. Like, everything is designed to try to take this guy away. Because, you know, against some teams, you say, yo, let's let this guy do this.

And let's take everything else away. The game plan is never to let Steph just get his because you know how demoralizing it is and then obviously impact on the game. The way the game of basketball is played, not an NBA. I said the game of basketball is playing for a while. It's because of Steph Curry.

Sure. You tell me, the game of basketball is modeled after how you play the game and what you were so special at that everybody thought that, yo, that's what we need to do. And you telling me

that guy don't go in the goal conversation, also tell me that Steve Jobs ain't the greatest CEOs that's ever walked this planet earth for you. Then tell me that too then.

I always say, goats, traveling herds. So, you know, you can look at multiple different players and consider them,

you know, a part of the greatest of all time, the greatest ever do it. Like, people get into the debate about individual people, but I look at, like, the canvas, right? The NBA is the Lou. You know, Michael,

Michael Jordan may be to Michelangelo and assisting chapel. Steph Curry comes along and becomes a Mona Lisa, right? Or, you know, so it is, you know, he definitely deserves, you know, his name in that conversation. And I think,

you know, when you're talking about go and go conversation once again you got to talk about multiple people because it's multiple different positions multiple errors it's most like every five years the league changed like we was talking about

the face of the league the other day right and you know the face of the league is consumed by he who wins right or he who has the illest style I think that stuff has transcended a whole new era like if you think about, you know, just the NBA and the NBA from an image perspective, the suburban

kid has a chance to be great. You know, it never was there, you know, a time where, you know, the story reflect, the story of struggle was always prevalent to someone's success in the NBA and never really was there like a middle class, you know, well, really upper class kids. who broke through the barriers. Not only that, not only an upper-class kid, but the son of an NBA player who breaking through that threshold. So, I mean, you can say there was ones, you know,

players before which there were, who made it to the league, but, like, not with this threshold, this impact. And so it created a whole new, you know, surge of NBA players, former NBA players, great college players, great streetball players. now their kids is looking at, oh, look at this kid. You know, he looked like a dude that's, you know, at the jungle.

Like, I grew up at the jungle gym, right? He looked like he looked like somebody that's in an art class, right? And there he is one of the best players in the NBA. And so that, you know, is more recognizable, more relatable. And now, you know, every kid from every suburbs, from every hood, is changing their style of game and changing even their persona, right, to reflect more Steph Curry. And I think that's why you got a lot of great kids in this league,

a lot of good, good people, right? And, you know, you have that, you have that now broader family support. And, you know, people don't look at all the elements. So when it comes to, you know, being a game changer, what that does. Due to Steph Curry's success and you just hit on it, I'm going to take it a step further. Due to his success, and Clay, due to the level of success that Steph has had, being a former or being the son of a former NBA, retired NBA player in Dill Curry,

it's not that there weren't guys before that were the son of NBA players, but you haven't seen them with this frequency. The amount of NBA players, sons that's in the NBA now. Crazy. And with this frequency. Due to Steps' greatness, the NBA and basketball in general has become a rich kid sport. Basketball was for myself, a lot of other guys. We had a chance.

It was our way out. Yeah, we had a chance. As a poor kid, there's a hoop at the park up the street, and you just need a basketball and we can go play. You know, we can play outside. And so as a poor kid, it was a means in the way out for a lot of us. LeBron James, the poor kid, basketball was a way out. And the staff courage was rare. Now it's more likely that Gilbert Arena's son is going to make it to the NBA.

Trevor, the reason is going to make it to the NBA. And they are better suited now to make it to the NBA than the kid from the neighborhood. It's flipped. Big sign, bro. Big time. Because of the level of skill that Steph Curry possesses, skilled training has become so big. So training kids now and the training that these kids get now.

It's expensive. We can guide them through and we know trainers. We know like Ronnie worked out with Chris Johnson when he was in high school. You know what I'm like? We know the trainers. Yeah. So it's trap. I'm probably going to go to the NBA.

because it's set up that way now. It is. So much training. And the kid in the neighborhood now, he can't get that level of training. You get to the train station, but you two days late, everybody then took their trains and their routes.

So the kid in the neighborhood, our route used to be play at the park, play at the school or whatnot, then get discovered at the YMCA or the Park League. Then somebody will say, you want to play on the All-Starks, and you play on the All-Starts. It was like you worked your way up, and you have to really, like, battle and fight to earn your seat on the AAU squad.

Now those kids in the hood, they don't even have, like, the kids is so rich that you can't even afford to access the tournaments to show like, man, I got it. It used to be a team we used to play against Cauter Warriors. If I didn't play on my AAU to play for them, they was out of watch. And they would raise money, and they would be in the same tournaments. And James Lee wound up becoming, you know, going to San Francisco. But like, it was dudes I grew up from my neighborhood. Like, oh, like, damn, they got a squad too.

And they can show them now you can't. Because if you ain't Nike, if you ain't Adidas, if you ain't Puma, like, where do you go to get seen? And it's really like an access game now. So, you know, and I hate this. basketball is becoming a one-trick pony as far as stories, the type of talent you're looking for, the type of player you're looking for. And like everybody,

it's like becoming a factory and it's not, it's not an art collective. Right? Like we not appreciate, like nobody's, everybody's the same. So, you know,

and then that goes back to Steph Curry. Like, you know, look at that effect. Like, every kid and every point guard, even every big man now is shooting threes. You know, there's always a gift and a curse, but I think the game being too expensive, this allows access to, you know, the next Draymond, right?

Yep, that's right. Because they ain't going to go looking for no Dray Ma. That's a fact. Right? And so we got to, you know, we got to keep, we got to keep that same juxtaposition or that energy because the league is not about. just rich kids playing the sport, you know? That's a fact.

Every rich kid could be skilled, you know, do all the skill training, but every rich kid ain't going to have a dog that Steph Curry. For sure. No, it's Steph Curry different. He programmed. Absolutely. Right.

We had a conversation about this. What's the difference between, like if somebody's a dog and somebody got skill, you can't dog a person who's, highly skilled. And the person who's highly skilled probably has way more levels to be a beast and a monster than just you being a dog. And having that dog in you, if you got a guy that's highly skilled and he ain't got no dog,

your mind is automatically going to be like, I'm just bullion. Yeah. Like, I'm a bully him and I'm not even going to allow you to access that skill. So I'm going to just rough you up. I'm going to back down. then once I get you to back down, now you don't even really want the ball because you don't want to deal with that.

It always refers back to that and when it always reverse back to that. Because if you don't have the dog, everything else you're trying to accomplish it, it gets thrown off track. But I would say, you know, for the kids, you know, I just said it's a rich kid sport, for the kids that are like myself

and like you that's still coming from the neighborhood, You may not have the access to the type of training that, say, my son would have access to or your son would have access to. But being a musician, being an artist, like Bidiz just said, being an artist and figuring out the artistry of the game, you can just do that. And guess what? They still make basketball courts. They still make basketballs. If you get your handle right, your game. tight work on that.

Yeah, you may not be as strong when you get to a level trying to go to. Not being strong enough don't mean you can't be tough enough, right? You may not be as strong. You may not test off the charts like somebody else will because of the training

they had. That's fine. Master the game. That's it. Master the game. For the kid that don't have the access to all the stuff, if you just master the game, and all that simply requires is going to the gym, going outside and dribbling the basketball.

Those still, those things, those who do that, that'll never go away. Any rim you can find outside, don't matter. If you put that work in as that young kid that ain't got nothing, there's still a path. Oh, man, if you and I were growing up in today's era, right, the path would be a little easier because you have, help along the way. So, like, we're not discouraging. We're saying, like, you will, they will fight.

Talent will be found once you put the work in, right? And the way the landscape is for basketball, right, with NIL, right, it gives people like us growing up an opportunity to start taking care of our family, even out of earlier age. So take care of our business, take care of, and the knowledge, too, know people, no, you know, no players, know their style, know what they play like, know what they shoot like, how they run. All this is, is the beauty and the magic. Like, I think about you a lot and what makes you a great defender is you know how people move. So you know when to get in front of them, you know how to defend them, you know when you need to get leverage,

you know, when you need to stand up, you know, and he ain't going to do that. Right. Rudy Gobert, you know, when it just jump. And when you study people and you study their movements, that's how you really become a student of the game. I saw that picture of Pat with the Bell Corrside during the Next Warriors game. You tweeted that you put a camera on Pat Courtside. What is he doing? I'm telling you, man.

I don't know, maybe this needs to be an idea for the new media. somebody need to put sit past the Beverly Corside. I got a lot of respect for Pat. Pat got it out of the mud, and I also I have even more respect for Pat because Pat was a score. Yeah.

Average 40. I made it to the NBA because I could score. Like, I didn't make NBA because I play defense. No way. I made the NBA because I can score. I made all defense team at Michigan State my senior year. And my assistant coach,

who I'm still tight with to this day, Coach D.J. Duane Stevens, he laughed in my face and said, man, they put you on that all-defense team because you're named Draymond Green. Because you're nice in offense. Yeah. And I was like, chill out, Dee. I was like, I'm a great help side defender.

I didn't even argue with him. I'm like, Dee, I'm great-help side defender. Yeah. He's like, yeah, overhelping. I used to overhelp crazy all the time. Like, there was no argument to even push back. I made it to the NBA because I could score, I could pass, and I could rebound. In order for me to play in the NBA, I had to figure out a role because they already

had guys, I was the second round pick, they already had guys that was going to score. So that was never going to be a role for me. Right. So I'll figure out a role. Once you figure out a role, you ain't about to go rap and then start singing. Like, no, you rap now. Like, go rap. And that's just kind of what it is.

I had a lot of respect for Pat. He got it out of mud. And so I'm getting stopped. and I'm talking to Pat, like, Pat, I'm on the last. Like, y'all, you saw that else. And I hear Pat like, yo, y'all need to do this, Dre, like, do this, do that.

And I'm like, man, that's a good idea. Then I hear him, we're in the zone, and he tells Landry Shamet where to go for the shot. He over there coaching both teams. Landry Shamet goes to where he tells him to go, hit the three, Pat, I told you. Go right. Like, didn't the fan tell me,

Drey, mine, you are stupid. You're just stupid. And I caught his face. Oh, it's you. And I'm about to say, start going back at the Fed. Pat, fire off. Drey, I got him. I got the belt in my hand.

I turned around and look, this man really has a belt in his hand. That's a belt in my hand. Drey belt. I put the belt to ask. Like from that, like all these moments he had during the game, bro. It was like epic. if you had a camera on him and put that in a

nine minute, it was pure comedy. That's hilarious. He's over there in coaching, though, too. Yeah. So for the average fan, like, you're learning when you're listening and watching it.

Man, it was absolutely incredible. It was a pleasant surprise. Obviously, didn't expect to see Pat Bev sitting course I at a game with us with the next. Pleasant surprise. That bit of his classic, bro. Who's scoring big in the NBA this season? You are all the new ways to get in on the action at Draft King Sportsbook

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Void in Ontario. New customers only. Bonus bets expire, 168 hours after issuance. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dKNG.com slash audio. All right, continue with the Crazy Steph Curry performances on February 27. versus the magic, he went off of 56, 12-3s, and he's done that on three different occasions on February 27th. What? Which one to you is the best February 27th performance? The Orlando Magic one or the other two before?

Oh, 2016, he had 46, he was 12 for 16 from the three on two. 227, 16, on 227, 13, he had 54, 11 for 13 threes. Talk to me. That was at the guard, and we lost that game, I think. That's the one game. Yeah, on the 13th, right? That's actually the one game where it said he's 13 and 1 in the guard. That's actually the one game we lost.

So I'm going to pick against that one. He also shimmy past me during that game. I'm standing there like this. And when he did this and that was also in that game, so I'm going to throw that game out. I'm going to throw that one out. I got to say my favorite one was O KC. There was so much that happened during that game.

That game was also the game. Me and Steve Kirk got into it. And they reported it. Lisa Sonser's reported from eavesdropping in our door in our locker room. Like, every word we said. Behind closed doors, she reported every word we said, which was insane. To Lisa's credit, she apologized. I hold no ill-will towards Lisa.

I actually love her. But that was crazy. All of that happened in that game. That's also the gang stuff hit the bomb. The deep three right across that. So I got to go with that game. And then... That was crazy.

We also got to know the history. That's 2006. We had just won a championship. Fast forward, this is also the year that we end up having to come back 3-1 against them. So I have to understand where the NBA was and the dynamic. Like Steph versus Russ right now, these dudes have been at such a high level for such a long time. But at this time, you thought like this was peak powers. You didn't know that they end up, that Russ ends up breaking the triple double record.

Like, because he, at the time, he wasn't getting the. and triple doubles that frequently to 2016. So you have to understand, like, the dynamic in the NBA at this time. And then for him to have that performance, hit that bomb, with all of that going on in that. That was crazy. I got to take February 27, 2016. Got to take that one.

But I'll tell you what, February 27th in America, we'll be known moving forward that Steph Curry Day. Done. Sign it up. Sign the petition now. All right, dude. One of the wildest calls I saw

this week was the flagrant file they called on you versus the Hornies, which I deem as because you're Draymond Green, that's the type of call you're going to get. What did you say to the ref after that upgrade was made?

I don't even, I said so much, to the rest when they even was going to go review it. But I wasn't even looking at dude. And the referee only called the file because he saw a dude on the floor flopping like, I wasn't even looking at him. I literally just put my hand out to hit his chest to stop his progress before. And so I could find the ball and go get the rebound. But you know, you got, you know, you got hands like shown up.

He ran straight into the middle. Don't blame me. I thought it was crazy. For them to go see the play, see that I'm not even looking at this dude and still upgraded to a flag of file. Oh, it's crazy. To me, because I have been on the wrong end

of a lot of elbows to the head. And the referee shows... Oh, but it wasn't intentional. But I still got elbowed in my head. Yeah, but it wasn't. I'm not looking at this dude but y'all tell me when it's me on the wrong side of it that it wasn't intended to mean to do it

I got tripped it was either in Philly or a Lenthal was the beginning of the trip I was rolling down the pain but I got tripped I felt so hard I felt I felt so hard

I was so mad because as I'm far over, I'm looking at the referee eye to eye, watch me just get tripped and fall over. I'm literally looking at eye to eye, watching me get tripped. I felt so hard. I was so mad.

I'm like, yo, you're not going to call it. You just watch me get tripped. You watch me get tripped. And he said to me, he was like, I was surprised. He didn't try to trip you. I watched him. I said, but I don't always try to file.

Yeah. But if I foul, I file, it don't matter what I try. It don't matter. Hey, if you clumsy, you clumsy, you clip somebody. You trip somebody. I don't care if he tried to trip me or not. He tripped me. Oh, yeah, Drey Mahe, he didn't try to elbow you in the... Yeah, but he elbowed me in the head.

I don't care what he tried to do. He elbowed me in the head. So if that's a flagrant one and I didn't try to, why are all these times I get elbowed and head and rough say, oh, it wasn't intentional. He didn't try to. I don't understand that. I understand.

I know why, right? We're going to let the rough slide on this one. Warriors are 9-1 with Jimmy Butler in the lineup. To me, the most impressive win amongst those are this last victory against the next. next just saying that. I was very impressed with that. Everybody had a solid game and Steph

had a, and Steph was Stefan. What do you think is the most impressive win for you guys so far? I would say last night and I would say the Houston one right before a break. Me and both of them were on the back end of a back to back. Oh man, you went that second game. That's

relief. Absolutely. And the NBA, we call most of those schedule losses. You know, like back to back. tough you getting in late as hell good team like those are tough and you know

we're coming in on the back to back all-star break starts after the game so you could mentally check out right like man we let me get through this game and get the all-star like that could be your mindset yeah we had just lost one and tough one the night before

in Dallas we went off also sending my love and well wishes to Kai Rhee man damn you'll be covering But Kai had just went off, coming in this young Houston team that, if you remember the last time they beat us, was the end season. Yeah, for the 10th season, yeah. A little sketch.

On a blooper. On a blooper. Yeah, a couple mistakes. But they're feeling good, and they're young, you know what I'm saying? Like, caught us on the back to back, and we go in and get that game to go into the break. So I say that one, and I say this New York Knicks next one. was the two most impressive to me so far. You just get a boost of confidence

and like a boost to the morale to go take that second one on the second night of a back-to-back. So, you know, and also still allows us to put ourselves in a position to have a great trip. Obviously, we would have loved to be five and on a trip.

We let that Philly one get away. Yeah, that was a tough one. Four and one East Coast trip, I don't think anybody complained about. No complaints here, my brother. But you'd also got the Pistons coming in town. You know, the Pistons, one of my teams, one of my hot teams to watch for this year in the league. They're in sixth place.

And it looks like they'll have a first round matchup with the Nix. You played against the Nix. You know it's Nix tape with me all day. I love the Nix. I did pick Detroit as my hot team coming out the East. Do you think the Nicks or the Pistons? Who do you think? in a playoff series

if they started today? The Pistons ain't never done it. I don't think New York's playoff noise. I think they got some things to figure out, but in saying that, I don't know that the Pistons are

like, you need some experience in those playoffs. War ready. Yeah. I just don't know that they'll have enough experience. Now, adding Dennis Schroeder is going to make

a big difference for them in the playoffs because he does. Everybody gets Tobias Harris a lot of crap. Tobias has playoff experiences. So having those couple guys that does have playoff experience, I think could help them.

I think it will be a very tall task for them to beat the Knicks though, if I'm honest. But I'll roll with Detroit. Wow. You don't know, road with Detroit for sure. There's something about it being your first playoffs that you're like, oh man, I'm going for broke.

Like that you're so prepared as a young dude, you're so nervous that your energy is there, your attention to detail. Like, you don't even know to be nervous. You don't know what this. It's almost like a, for lack of a better term, it's like a level of dumbness that you have, a level of ignorance that you have.

Yeah, yeah. And you don't even know what they expect. And so a guy who's been through it could get more nervous because they know what they expect where they're out there damn, they're dumbfounded. Because we ain't never been here what we got to lose. Oh, well. Right. And that definitely could work.

I agree with you. That can't work to the Pistons advantage. And then I'll tell you another thing. Issa Stuart going to, he's going to bully cat. Like he's going to make it. He would make it his mission for a playoff series where you got to see this dude possibly seven games in a row. He would make it his mission to bully cap.

Will he be successful in doing it? I mean, that's what Isaiah Stewart does. That's where somebody who's highly skilled, like, man, I ain't even worried about that bullshit. Like, you can be a dog all you want. You still can't stop. It could work to cast advantage, too. It could 100%.

You could use it against them. You know what I'm saying? So you have to see how those matchups play out, but I think those would be key things to watch in this matchup. And then who's going to be better out of Kay than? And Jaylen Brunson, yeah. Cailen Brunson has the experience, but I'm going to tell you what Kay has that Jailen Brunson don't have.

It's size. Yeah. Size. At 6-7, he gets into the playoffs, and Kay getting to where he wanted to go and you ain't speeding him up, that can make a big difference in a playoff series because they're dialed in on exploiting these one or two or three things in the game and Kay different man.

Yeah. He don't care that he hasn't been there before. He knows like this is my moment. Like we can get them. Move around the league a little bit before we get out of here. Brian passed 50,000 points. Wow. regular season and playoffs combined.

It's absolutely insane for a guy. It's insane for anybody. It's obviously never been done, but it's absolutely insane for a guy that is not considered a score. A score, right. It's pretty crazy. But it just goes to show you how...

I actually think throughout the course of bronze career, he could have scored way more points than he actually has. Absolutely. I think he just always has such a level of unselfishness and will and want to win that the points never really even matter to him, which is possibly why people don't, they don't matter to people because they never really matter to him. He was just going to score enough points to make sure they win the game, but never to try to break some scoring records or something like that. And that's what I think makes it even all the more impressive. Like how great you actually have like got to be.

To not focus on scoring to be labeled as a score, but have 50,000 points is insane. So number one, Brian, congrats my brother. Congrats. Well done, man. Just continuing to watch this brother's greatness. And it's like, it's crazy because I think he keep getting better at basketball. Yeah. Just don't really make sense to me, like how brother 40 years old still getting better at basketball.

But, you know, he often. at a high high level. At a very high clip, bro. He always credit his sustained performance throughout his career to love for the process. And one thing I will ask you, we talked about to go debate with stuff earlier, do you think

Luca's arrival has infused some energy in, and like pushed his game to another level? Not that he needed Luca's arrival. to push them to another level, but just kind of watch your thoughts on that. One, we're starting to see LeBron fall into a comfortable number two. Like, we've only seen LeBron be number one. There is no one A, there is no one B. There was never that.

LeBron has always been numeral uno. To see LeBron as the number one guy, be the number two guy, is very scary because it puts him back into his number one position when he was young, right? And when you talk about his scoring, I say he's a mechanical score, right? He scores when necessary, oh, you're about to go up 10, no, I'm taking that shot. Like he is a scientist when it comes to how he plays the game. And then also, LeBron, he could have came into the, league and said, I want to be a score and had a total different game and with the same outcome,

right, just because who he is. But I think Luca, right, to answer your question, Luca is like, oh, man, I got another five. What I'm loving about the league right now, okay, the Warriors, got three years, four, these next five years, the Warriors, okay, see, y'all got the next five. years to do something. Boston, you just came off of one. You got the next five years to do something, right? But then you got all these veteran teams.

Denver, you're getting older, you're about to turn the corner, Clippers, what are you going to do? Lakers, you got Luca, Minnesota, you got, like, Phoenix and what's going to happen with, you know, with Katie and what they got with Phoenix. So all these vet teams that made each trades and got better, like, they're in a now win situation. Yes. So I think that ups LeBron's

ante like, hold on, let me show Luca, hey, bro, you just do what you do. I got the rest. And that's and it's been different than a Kyrie, then a D-Waid than a Chris Bosch, right? Because Luca can do

what LeBron does. This is the first time in a bronze career where he's been able to run and play off the ball and people make plays for him. I think he's ever really play with anyone that could

like really make plays for him. Right. So he's running and getting layups in transition. He's getting backdoor cuts like random cuts because it's someone that can create for him. Totally. I think that has made him take a step back

and be like, well, like this is actually a lot easier. He's enjoying doing it, it looks like. And so I think it definitely can infuse some more years into his career because he just got, stuff looks the same way with Jimmy coming, right? Yeah, yeah.

This looks like they found new life. It's a relief, yeah, boss. Yeah. We had KD on last week, and, you know, he just talked about how the sons have to play hard. He didn't get some tour with Boonehoza, which I make nothing of. But he came out and responsible.

responded and play hard. And on both sides of the ball, and when he made that decision, you can see the game start to change. And I had tweeted about K, because I watched him do it defensively, offensively. I watched him talking to guys.

I watched him big up guys. I watched him take it on everything on his own shoulders and wield them to that win. Yeah. Because if they lose that game, it's over. I tweeted. It was one of the more impressive performances I've seen from K.

And I've seen K have 54, 52, whatever, all these. But it ain't about the points. It's about his demeanor. It's about how he went about bringing that team back. And it was glaringly noticeable to me. You know, he had spoke about how they needed to play hard and different things. They have a 23-point comeback last night versus the Clippers. And I think that was a prime example.

the way that they're going to need to play. Yep. If they could spark this run. And can this game ultimately be a spark for them, which you hope so if you're them, right? Like, you hope that, all right, man, we just had this one. Now let's build on it. They got an uphill battle to fight for sure. Yeah, they do.

This was the first time I really seen him angry. You know, usually, Katie, when he play, he upset. He'd be talking shit. you know, he going at different people. This comeback was, he was angry. He was like, he lost itself in the game. And I think that's what Phoenix got to do. They got to stop coming to the game with a chip on their shoulder,

thinking like they are the target because they got Katie. They caught Devin Booker. They got scores. They need to start being angry about, hey, this may not happen. And so they have to have more desperate measures. And I've seen angry Katie when he did that to Bud. It was like, man, all right, I'm about to show you, bro. Like, get off me.

I need to stay in the mode that I'm in. And to me, it was refreshing to see that. Yeah, I don't think it was anything. Coaches and players had their moments all the time. I think if you had a camera on a bench and a huddle at every moment, you'd see these more often than not. That's just what happens. I think people try to make a big deal out of everything

because everybody needs storylines. Katie loves the process of being coached, working on this game. All the pureness of basketball is what Katie actually loves. One thing I can assure you, Katie ain't a coach arguer. Like, he ain't going to, every now and then, he's going to, like, stand his ground.

You know what I'm saying? Like, of course. But he's not just going to get into it with the coach. He's not a player that's like, think he's bigger than being coach. No. No to that. You know what I'm saying? So what I know for a sudden had a day little moment and they're moving on.

If KD could play this game, an NBA, and what he's doing, and only deal with the pureness of the game, he played for another 10 years. No, for sure. And sometimes you just don't want to be touched, especially if somebody talking to you, Don't touch me. But, like, talking to me and touching me at the same time, like, I don't feel like being touched right now. Right.

And when you're in the heat of the moment, it's just that. It's nothing more but just, you know, that angst, that anxiety, that, you know, that frustration. Before we get out of here, man, you know, we mentioned Kyrie earlier, Taryn and ACL, obviously another blow to the Mavs and their fan base who's kind of been going through it over the last month or so. Damn. Like, I don't, I don't have many words because Kai is just one of them dudes, man.

He's my guy. He loved playing basketball. He loves who. I'm happy to be where he is in his life. Mm-hmm. You know, he got his wife and his kids, you know what I'm saying? But, man, like, Kai had to figure it out. You know what I'm saying?

The game, his balance, who he is. And to go through this. I hate to see it. I hate to see it. And my love, well wishes, speedy recovery. You just hate to see that happen. But I will ask you, what was your thoughts on him staying out there and shooting those free throws? That's just love.

That's just will. You know, I love Kyrie game. One of my favorites all time. And to see his maturity this year, you know, his leadership, you know, with that team, even through the trade and all that. And, you know, I just hate seeing people get injured, period, right? You know, because my career ended on an injury. But I do believe and I know he got, you know, the family support,

and he got the will to come back. And he got the game, you know, to come back after a torn ACL and be even better or just as effective playing at a high level because of who he is. and just the skills, right? High, high, high, high level of skill, right? You just got to get back to getting strong. And, you know, I just, it's almost like one of these, you know, when he shot the two free throws, like, you're a real one, bro,

but we understand, you know? 1,000 percent. You know, I actually had the opportunity to see Kobe, shoot two times as a chair. Oh, he was in that game, yeah. That game, but then obviously Clay. shoot two toes after tearing this ACL, you know what I'm saying? It's just a like a respect you have for those guys

because, man, when you, when I can only imagine going through those injuries, I've gotten injured not like that and a knock on wood. But like anytime you have any injury on the court, the last thing you're thinking about is, man, I need to go shoot these two free throws. Like, you're immediately like, how bad is it? Like, pain, you know, you're processing so much. And so I just applaud them, you know, on that. Yeah, for the bravely that love, that love for the game that they have to, you know,

have those moments. And then I also think that there's a level of, I don't know how this recovery is going to go. I don't know, you know, when I'll be back on the floor. But if this is it, you'll remember I shot my free throws before I left. Totally. And I can respect that. You speedy recover to Kai, man. get well, brother.

Blessings, bro. Game will miss you. But the game will welcome you back with open arms with that level of talent that Kyrie has. Till next time, that's a wrap. We're out. Dreymond Green Show. With B.D. and all the isms.

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