The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Favorites - NFL Best Bets Week 15

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

With their eyes all aglow for their live event in Philadelphia Thursday night, Action Network NFL experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter return to talk best bets for NFL Week 15. Together they discuss a contentious spot for Mike Tomlin, the potential top of the market for the Carolina Panthers, and a sea of underdogs worth investing in. Plus, we hear their boosted moneyline underdog parlay courtesy of bet365, their Big Balls Bet of the Week presented by Tommy John, and so much more.  And as a reminder, The Favorites $100K Pro Football Pick 'Em Contest is underway! Presented by bet365, this totally free-to-play contest has over $100,000 in cash prizes up for grabs to our listeners this NFL season. Just visit  Favorites.ActionNetwork.com to sign up for free and make your picks today. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's Thursday, as always. Thursdays during the season. We like to hear how the wise guys are responding to our Tuesday conversation. That's how influential we are, the lines move, based on our conversations and the pros feel compelled to weigh in on our opinions. Simon, let's do sharp calls. Hello, who's there? I'm talking. Ring, ring, telephone ring.

Somebody said, baby, what you doing? Yeah, start with the Thursday game. We've seen this number move right. We both liked 49ers at two and a half. Now most books are showing three. Still take it at three, but obviously you want the best of that number. So shop right, if you find the two and a half. Because that is the professional siren.

I don't know many too many pros taking it at minus three. I know plenty that are hammering this two and a half. Aside, we're not on. A lot of pros I've talked to, they like Miami. Maybe it's a game you want to discuss, or we can just keep it moving, but I think debut of this Houston teams are still a little overrated, that Miami is not as bad as we perceive.

It's a nice spot to back this Miami team, I guess, in their perspective. So that's one that wasn't really on my radar. I was shocked to hear so many guys like that side. Another game, maybe we'll end up as one of our five. A lot of the pros love this Jags number, just like we did a three and a half. And it really is all about this Jets team getting too much respect. And I thought it was going to be a lot of professionals on the Jets

once again, but it seems like it was just a small group playing the number at two and a half three on that jet side. And most pros align with our view of it taking the jags of three and half. It's just really about two bad teams and one of them's getting over a field goal. That just to me feels pretty easy to take that bad side. A game that, you know, we've talked a lot about. I know that we like Pittsburgh. Every pro I've talked to, Chad, is on this Eagles team. So that's one maybe we have to dive into. Yeah, it's a really shape enough to be a pros, Joe's kind of game. And obviously there's a couple of pros out there that they've taken the Pittsburgh side.

But yeah, right now, Chad, it looks like we are the Joe Public side in that Pittsburgh Eagles game. Another one we love that, you know, we kind of lose hesitant, I guess, on Tuesday. But the more I've looked into it, it feels like it's a good spot. This Colts number, we've seen it come down to four and a half. Some books now are three and a half. That's one we'll definitely have to dive into, Chad, because I love the professionals, love the Colts. Tampa, I really love this side. It's more split than I thought I was going to be.

There's some professionals that really like the chargers. Once again, it's all about the number. I know some pros I've taken the charges at two and a half, but people like me have bet heavier on the other side of Tampa plus three. So that's been a really interesting back and forth. I'm actually on the wrong side of this one, apparently. I like Green Bay, minus two and a half. Talked a lot of pros who like the Seahawks.

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we were closing the show. So not that shocking. The public and a couple of professionals have lined up on the bill side when it gets a two and a half and a three. I know plenty of pros that love this Lions team, especially when it touches too. So yeah, there's other games we haven't touched on just because the number of lines move so much. But those are the ones that really jumped out to me. A lot of noise between those. Obviously the most talked about games right now, especially, you know, I was with five professionals last night. Everyone had a really strong opinion either on the Eagles game or on this lines, Bill's game.

So yeah, really fun week breaking these all down. Oh, that's awesome. I'm so glad to hear.

The one quibble I have with you is I feel like we talked a lot about Miami. I was like, I wanted to like Houston and the more

I dug into it, the more I liked Miami. I have it on our list to discuss today. So we're definitely going to get into that one. Don't forget,

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Carolina is at two and a half right now at Bet365. It's at three at a lot of places. So this was on the list as if we have to, we're going to bet it. I pulled the trigger. I bet the Panthers at two and a half. It's kind of remarkable to say this, Simon. Do we think the value is lost on the pandemic right now as favorites? Like, is it just gone?

Yeah, and this is a game that feels like the professional is better early in the week and then they're not so much better than at this point, right? When Carolina was a dog or they opened up minus one, that's when we saw a lot of the money coming. Like last night, a lot of the guys I was talking to, they're just not interested in it just because of all the line movement. And it's getting to the point like we talked about where I might have to bet the Cowboys because, like he just said, the line might move too much.

And eventually, if it does stay at three and gets up to three and a half, that's where the value would be. But at two and a half, I can't fault you for taking the Panthers. Like this feels like it should be three. Wouldn't be shocked if it lands right on three. I mean, these are just two bad teams, right? And one team is really banged up in the Cowboys on the flip side. We've seen this Panthers team be a totally different team

since their bi-week. And they've really turned things around. And like you said, eventually the luck of all the, you know, Bryce Young thrown off his back foot, perfect dimes drop into the corner, it is going to run out. Like it's just, he's been playing so above his head right now that everyone's turned right. Everyone I talk to now is back in on Bryce young and this Panthers team. So you're right for feeling like it might be the time to jump off. I just view it as, I don't know, it feels like there's still valiant this Panthers team just because

I do view them as the better team and they are at home against a Cowboys team that we've seen has struggled on the road. So yeah, it's a tricky number, Chad, because it has moved so much. So it's just when I've just avoided altogether. Yeah, I don't think we'll get it in the contest because I think in the contest it'll be a two and a half. Like you and I, we both like to not look at the numbers

until after the Thursday show, just so we're not cheating a little bit in the contest. We like to do it at the end of this program. So I haven't seen the way it's been sitting at two and a half all week at Bet365. The Panthers will be at two and a half in the contest. So we'll have to see

with the rest of the games we're talking about. I felt pretty confident about five we could get to without the Panthers. But after hearing sharp calls, I wonder if we're going to be

able to do that. So right now it's on the outside looking in. I would say there are probably three games that are waffling

between that two and a half and three this week that we're going to talk about. This is one of them. That if it's two and a half, we like one side. If it's at three, we like the other. So I'm excited to dig into those as well. Cleveland at Kansas City. Cleveland right now at Bet365 is plus four. There are a smattering of four

and a halfs out there. Don't forget, this was at six and a half on Sunday night when we first flagged it. I went back. I listened. I looked at our notes from Tuesday. I think we were being cowardly, hoping we could avoid this game. I actually put in my notes. We both said we wanted to avoid this game, given how snake bit we were last week when we had the Browns and we had the Chiefs and neither went our way.

But how are we like not ignoring the teams here and just playing the number? If you look back at that Browns game and Nick Giffin, Dr. Nick, with the luck rankings had a analysis of the Browns

in that Steelers game and showed how it's beyond like bad luck what happened in that game and how they should have covered

I feel like we have to be taking the Browns here yeah don't fault you for that I mean we did talk about if it's pretty simple at this point if it's above three

right against my homes you should just fade them but that's just my issue here, Chad. It's just too easy. And I guess that's just me, someone that's done this a long time, that usually when it's too easy, it's not as perceived.

And we can have all the unlucky stats in the world. It doesn't account for James. Like, that's the issue with that metric. It's like, were they unlucky against Denver? Or is that just the full James experience? Like him throwing that pick, once again, if he drove the field and we're on the four-yard line,

and like last week, you talked about that, Turner had kind of killed the game, right? The pick to the defensive linemen. So that's my hesitation here. There's other dogs. I feel like I have a better read on that can be more consistent. And I trust the number more than we play this number.

And neither of us would be surprised if the chief's defense just completely dominates and destroys this Brown's offense. The reason I want to join you on the Browns is just because of what we talked about. That the line against the Chief's offensive line, that should be a huge matchup for that Browns team. Like Miles Garrett, even with all of his injuries, should be able to get to the quarterback just about any time he won. Especially if they're doing what Andy Reid's been doing, which is not leaving tight ends in the block. Like even last week, they knew that guy was struggling that tackle. And it's like Andy Reid wasn't leaving anyone in the chip.

He wasn't have the running back chip on that side either. It was like they're trying to run their same old offense where they just can't. Like it just is not the same offense as they've been to run before. So I'm with you, Chad. It's like if we had to force in Cleveland, I could get behind it. It's just, it makes me uneasy because of the Winston effect. It's just been as fun as it's been betting on them. It's been obviously a terrible experience these last couple weeks.

Well, look, we got a win for all the Jamis reasons, throw in two pick sixes. And by the way, the pick at the end of the game, which would have allowed him to get into the back door. Yeah. And then we lost with James when there was a turnover by James with three minutes, you know, a little more than four minutes left in the game before the Cadarius Tony fumble on the punt where they were driving on the Steelers 35 yard line and they were down

2714 and James turnover. Here's what I would say. Number one, your point about the offensive line for the Chiefs is massive. they did a terrible job defending against the Chargers defensive line. And the Chargers defensive line is not even close to as good as the Brown's defensive line, right? The Browns lead the league in pressure rate, going against an O line. They cannot protect Patrick Mahomes for an extended period. We've seen it week after week, after week, whether it's Juania Morris, DJ Humphreys.

it doesn't matter who's on the edge at left tackle. They have to change their offense. You're right. They're not bringing anyone into chip. Instead, Andy Reid is just deciding we're going to throw the ball in under half a second, right? It's going to be two-step drop, five seconds, we're done. And so, or not five seconds. Like two-step drop, half a second, 0.5 seconds.

We're done. Get the ball out. So that's number one. The Chief's defensive backfield, by the way, literally signing guys off the Street. Stephen Nelson, who they drafted in 2015, played a few years with them and retired, was just signed to the Chiefs practice squad because they have no defensive backs. Andrew Reed's comment when he was signed, this was great. He was a good player when he was here. He hasn't been there in like five years. So I don't think the Chiefs can cover anybody.

And if they can't cover anybody, then Spagnolo can't blitz the way he, he was. likes to blitz because he doesn't have any help in the back end of the defense. So I know it's all, it doesn't matter. It's all up to James. Yeah. Will he throw that stupid pick? But like matchup wise, number wise, the Browns are the side of it. Right.

But you're right. We're betting on Jay. At the end of the day, it's James. It's James. What are you going to do? So Miami at Houston, like, we discussed it on Tuesday for a while. I'm so like, because I was talking to me personally. It's not all about you, Chad.

I was just talking me personally, not having a read on it. What do you mean? You're acting like I like dismissed that we never talked about it. I was just more of a viewpoint of I just don't have a read on it. Like I wanted to be on Houston, but it seems like most professional I've talked to. They like Miami. So it's just it's one of those if I can avoid, I would avoid. I'm like a professional.

And I wanted to be on Houston too. And then I did my research and realized, oh my God, I might have to. to be on Miami. It's what I do, Simon. What am I missing? What's your research saying about Miami? My research about Miami is saying that they're actually better in the red zone than we think offensively. They're better defensively in the red zone than we think. And that this is probably a pretty good matchup for them if the number is at three. At two and a half, we probably like the Texans. At three, I lean dolphins. I have not bet it. I don't want to put

in the contest, I was really thinking this was going to be an auto play for me on the Texans coming off a by as healthy as they've been all season, but I still can't get there because I think the dolphins are better than we think. All right, I agree then. I would take Miami, but obviously we're never going to get the number we want. If it was three and a half in contests, I would love it. It's going to be two and a half. All the books are showing it's in between two and a half and three. So yeah, it looks like it's a game. We'll just avoid. Zero edge at three.

That's what I wrote in my notes. Dude, we're heading into a live event, and you and I right now, we're mind melding. That's what's happening. Cincinnati at Tennessee, I left this on. We don't have to get into it. I really only left it on the list because I wanted to see if there were any sharp calls about it. Because we talked about Tennessee being the right side. The number feels a little bit too high.

Cincinnati's basically. a one dimensional team right now. The problem is the Titans might not have any dimensions. So I just like we can skip it. We're not going to put in the contest. I only want to talk about it if there was significant sharp money coming in on the Titans. Are you hearing anything?

Has anything happened in your research the past 48 hours to put you on the Titans? I mean we talked like we're been to Titans just because of the number and it's a nice spot to back the book. This is a game the books are going to need. And, you know, obviously hasn't worked out totally this year, but historically, that's the exact spot you want to be on. And from my view of the professionals I like this side, it's really about something

we've talked about just that, oh, wine with Joe Burrow and the fact that, you know, the strength of Tennessee is up the middle. So that means he'll be having pressure right on his lap, which we've seen him struggle with, right? And obviously this season, he's putting on one of the best performances. ever seen by a quarterback's to they've navigated all that pressure not just from the side up the middle and he's found a way to make it work but um you know like we talk about we we want to take it just because of this number and it feels like Cincinnati got away with one last week right like that was

an incredibly lucky when we've been we've been behind those lucky covers that was an incredibly lucky cover uh by that Cincinnati team so it just feels like what most pros view we'd view the same way it's an over inflated line should be three three and a half you're getting five good luck if you're back in Will Levis it's a tough spot and a tough number to be in. Well, back in Will Levis at five actually feels scarier than back in Jamis

at four and a half. Because at least James, we know, can get the ball down the field and he will be able to find open receivers and score touchdowns. I don't know if Will Levis can do that. No, if we're down 10 with James,

I have some confidence. I'm down 10 with Will Levis. No confidence. Yeah, exactly. It's over. It's a dead bet. Yeah. A dead bet.

So I didn't put this in the script, but you mentioned in order this would be where it is. You mentioned the Jags at plus three and a half. Yeah. You know, like I'm surprised there's that much activity from professional betters on the Jags at three and a half. Like there's, like we said on Tuesday, lame duck coach versus an interim coach, a backup quarterback who's not very good. good coming off a preposterous win and over the hill quarterback who's not as good as he used to be coming off a preposterous loss um i guess the the hook is what hooked people yeah and i'm also just a believer in that this team has been the jaguars again it's all when you get to this time

of year you're looking for a bunch of stuff but i really do like to focus on home and away splits They're just some teams that perform well at home and some that do not. And we've seen this season, this Jaguars team, whether it's Trevor Lawrence or so far, Mack Jones, they have played better when they're at home. And, you know, early in the year, they played Green Bay. That was a game I famously made us bet. Chad was catering me for because Green Bay was out playing Jacksonville all the way to the very end. I got really lucky.

The running back laid down at the one-yard line. Green Bay wins 30 to 27. We cover that three and a half. Minnesota went down at Jacksonville, right? That was one of the ugliest, soppiest games you've ever seen. Jacks covered that game. They lost 12 to 7, like another weird game that they somehow covered. Then they obviously got rolled at Detroit.

We all remember. But then they went on their biweek, and we've seen that since their biweek. They played Houston at home. They lost 23 to 20. Once again, me and Chad, were on that number. We covered the back door, the three and a half. And then last week, like we already talked about, They were down six nothing head into the fourth quarter.

The kick of field goal ended up getting a touchdown. They win 10 to 6 with Mack Jones. So it's a team that as much as you want to say, it's a lame duck coach and it's a team that's given up, they're clearly still playing hard and putting it all together. And it's clearly a team that the market is still not valued right, right? I mean, it's back-to-back weeks now. They've been three and a half.

And to me, that's my view of it of it feels like once again, the Jets are being a little overvalued. I get it. Aaron Rogers did look better last week, but like we talked about, he's been incredibly inconsistent. And maybe they did find something, Chad.

I'm about to get burned here by backing this Jaguar's team. But to me, it just feels like I'm playing the number where it's like, why would the Jags not win this game outright? Why is this not closer to a pick? These are very evenly matched teams,

especially when you add in the mix that, you know, Mack Jones, we've seen it now back-to-back weeks. He finds something late in the games and he can turn it off. on, this is a Jets defense that can't be passed on. Like, it's not this juggernaut get good stops kind of defense.

So that's just my view of a chat. It's really about playing the number and just that it feels like once again, this Jets team's overvalued, especially the fact that they're coming off a cover for a lot of better. So we've just seen, especially in the Action App, all the money, all the tickets right now, feels like growing their Jets. And a couple books have moved it from three and a half down to three just to protect against a lot of professional money coming on the Shaguar side.

All right. So I'm leaving it on the list. Right now, our list of five includes Cleveland at four and a half and the Jags at three and a half. We're going to get to a streak of games where it's going to be the ones that we really feel strongly about. But as usual, we're starting off scary. Speaking of scary, I'm just saying this game, we have no intention of putting it in the contest. But the New York Giants are now 16.5. One of them.

Oh. Underdogs against the Ravens. I just put this one on the list because the number has gotten so outrageous. This has to be a wise guy play at this number. There's like the last two examples of a 16 from Evan, the last two examples of a 16 plus point dog have all been the Giants once in 2023 at the Cowboys, once in 2022 at the Eagles, 16 plus point dogs, 14 and 12 against a spread since 2018.

So, you know, it's plus money a little bit. The last time there was a plus 16 point dog at home. We mentioned this on Tuesday. Jags versus the bills in 22, the Jags won 96. Matt Mitchell remembers it well. He did not get to eat wings with surgical gloves that day. But since 1990, it's happened 11 times, 16 plus point dogs are only 5 and 6 against the spread. So now Tommy DeVito is a quarterback.

It doesn't feel like an auto play anymore. But tell me if I'm wrong. No, I think your view of it is correct in the sense that the Ravens secondary makes it that you want to bet this number. because they have been backdoored and they are struggling against the past and I totally get your coming from. It's tempting. That's why they made this number so big.

That's what they're doing here. They're trying to suck us in chat. So I'm doing my best not to bet it because I'm trying to be patient and hope this gets to 17. Because you're right. Right now it's at 16, 6.5, which is like, might as well be a dead number.

It's the mathematical odds of it laying on 16 or so small. So yeah, it's, I get rid of coming from. Maybe we'll be kicking ourselves when they're down eight driving with the ball at the end of the fourth quarter against the Ravens. It's like, how did we not take this? There was no doubt they were going to somehow cover this huge number. It just moved too much at this point.

But yeah, as you sit here right now, I haven't taken a position on it. I got no real fill for it. I know some pros who have bet it and it's just, it's the exact same view of chat. This number's too big for a team that isn't a top three, top four team right now in the NFL and this Ravens team. Like they're just not the team.

of the past. So I totally get your perspective. You also just wonder, is there a little bit of pride? We know the players know the spreads. We know that the giants are looking at this thinking, we're nearly 17 point underdogs at home, as bad as Tommy DeVito is, as much as that defensive line might struggle without the best player in the middle of the line. Like, that's a huge, huge number. Bookmakers have always told me like, you basically 2x the NFL spread to get to what it would be in college.

So if this was a college number, it would be 34, right? That would be what the spread is. That's a massive, that's a Alabama versus, you know, Eastern Carolina State University of Technology number. these are NFL players still. Like that, just, it defies logic to me. If we get it at 17, we're not going to get in the contest, but if it gets to 17, I'm going to be looking for this

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and their elite rushing game and their secondary is very good. but I think there's real and you came at me a little bit and tried to tell me that Jalen Hertz is similar to Josh Allen but there's real issues with this Eagles passing game they are running the ball

more than they are passing the ball which is why are you laughing at that? Because I don't know why that's an issue and you have Sequan Barkley and Jalen Hertz is your quarterback. It's not an issue but if you can't pass the ball then it's hard to win against good defenses.

Do you know what the definition of can't is, Chad? Say what? Do you know what the definition of can't is? What? I don't know. You're definitely using it wrong, though. You just said they can't throw the ball. They can't?

Not as well. They can throw the ball. I just think the hate's gone too far. Don't try to get English on me. Well, it's just, what are you talking about? You're just, you're a crazy person. It's, yeah, they can throw the ball if they need to. They're just a run for his team.

right now. I just, you sound like the fans of Philadelphia. It's like, what do you guys want? Do you want them to throw for 400 yards and lose to the Panthers? Well, it's affecting me right now. I don't get it. I don't get it what people want. So I'm happy AJ was able to laugh it off. It's just, again, I was worried in the sense of like, yes, no one wants their star receiver and their quarterback hating each other and being and, you know, having beef. But it seemed like they both were able to talk about where it's like, we both know that, you know, the passing game did struggle last year. And that was part of the reason the class. the collapse did happen i think that's what a j is talking about it's like that we need to get this on

point heading to the playoffs because we're not going to be able just run the run the ball three times against these you know really good teams but um i don't know i i have faith in hurts it's just like yeah as you played well no but if they come out here and they beat pittsburgh by two touchdowns and he throws for 250 and two touchdowns it's like are all their problems solved i don't think so like i don't think there's just something they can just correct in a week or two that's going on with Hertz right it's like yes the biggest issue again was AJ was opened downfield in the first quarter Hertz clearly missed them on what should have been an easy touchdown for AJ and for the rest of the game AJ was in a little pissy bitchy mood the rest of the game because of that one

play and then obviously got interviewed after the game immediately said something he shouldn't have said and Sam go to their Brandon Graham so the the professionals I talked to why they like the Eagles series they just think this line should be closer to six and a half seven because of that Panthers game you're getting a five, five and a half lower number on this Eagles game and I just have a hard time making the number that big like we already talked about Chad

I just think Pittsburgh is underrated here the number feels too big I'll be a sucker with you I'll buy this Pittsburgh one and just I'll ride the Tomlin spot but it's like every pro I know they like this other side they like the Eagles side just because they like this matchup for them

and obviously we haven't even talked about Pickens not playing in this game is a big deal for that Pittsburgh offense. And, you know, as much you want to say, Cleveland has a good defense, they don't compare to this Eagles team, right? Eagles are in the top three in almost every metric. That Cleveland team is not that same defense from the year before.

That's why, you know, Russ could get away with throwing deep balls to Mike Williams and get away the last week that maybe we're going to get caught here, Chad, but I'm with you. It feels like we're walking to a trap, but it's like, I can't avoid it. My model likes the number. I like the number. I'm happy to go against the professionals with you.

It just feels like it's too inflated, and this game will come down to a field goal, which once again, Pittsburgh has a huge advantage there. They have the much better kicker right now in this matchup. So it is tough, Chad. I feel like I'm missing something here, but I can't help it.

It's such a big number for this Pittsburgh team. We're in the Foxhole with the Pittsburgh Steelers. All right. I'm a foxhole guy. We're going to unleash hell here in December because that's what's required. My point with the Eagles is really, unless we believe,

the Eagles can completely, completely change their game plan to prove to themselves that AJ and Jalen Hertz in this passing game is fine and they're going to stop relying on Saquan Barkley for a game. Don't we have to believe that this will be a run heavy game that gives the Steelers a chance to keep it close, right? That's what I believe, more than anything. Whether or not I believe or you believe or anyone believes in Jalen Hertz and the passing game and their ability to throw the ball.

That's not who they are. They're a run-first team because they have Saquan-Barkley and their offensive line is amazing and their defensive line is amazing and they make it difficult on other teams because of their pressure and because of their defensive backfield. So this should play out

as a low-scoring game where the clock bleeds and both teams are trying to run the ball and that would play into the favor of the Steelers covering at five or five and a half, which is probably, we're probably going to get five and a half in the contest. So we're together on this. We might be coming at it from opposite sides,

but we are together on this. And that's really all that matters. Because when you're in a foxhole, you got to believe, and you got to be compadres, and you got to know that it's you against the world. And I think that's how you and I are feeling right now, even if this feels tense. Yeah, at the time of that,

I just, I don't trust the number. And that's what I'm worried about. There's something I must be missing here, because I just will never understand why the books hung this number so high. It'll never make sense why this wasn't three and a half. Makes no sense? It will make sense once on Sunday we lose by a touchdown.

100%. And we're going to be disappointed. I'm going to sit on my couch and I'm going to be like, why did we do this? But at least I'm going to know that you were with it. I didn't, like, I didn't try to talk you into it. So I'm not going to feel good. You kind of did, but I'm with you.

No way. No way. You fully came around on this. This is Chad's bet. I'm definitely putting this on you. Oh, my God. God, you are a fucking coward. All right, here we go.

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And I didn't lose my voice or cough it out. That's exciting developments there. We're going with the Indianapolis Colts plus four at Denver. From the beginning on Sunday night, we talked about this game. And it just kind of, without doing any research, the number looked funny. It got up to four and a half. Look, the cult are one of those teams that I think we and professional betters have more respect for than the market. I think that's reflected in the line.

like couple that with the wind streak that the Broncos have been on, including that wild game against the Browns before they're by, that they probably shouldn't have covered at all. I just feel like we have an inflation alert. You spent the last couple days thinking about it. You're feeling strongly about it. You've spoken to the wise guys. They're feeling strongly about it.

How did you get there? Yeah, I think what you saw the top, though, is really about this number, and that's what a lot of guys are debating was just, isn't this line inflated? Like this feels like it's bumped up way too high. And yeah, obviously I'm jealous of you. I saw you got a four and a half and it's like that would have been ideal.

That would have been the perfect number for us in the contest. But I'm not going to let it totally scare us off. If it's three and a half, I could still see us put an inch because it still feels like it's inflated. And, you know, they haven't played a ton of running quarterbacks this season, obviously Denver. But we saw that even when I went back and watched that Lamar game,

that was a way you can really, kind of stifed their front four. Like as good as they've been at rushing the passer and getting to the passer, I've seen a couple instances that have struggled against mobile quarterbacks. And we've talked about Bo Nicks, you know, as great as he's played.

We saw it last week with the Browns. It's like he is still hitting a little bit of that rookie wall at this point where teams are adjusting and making it more difficult for him and that we've seen that when it is off game, script that he has struggled. So yeah, I fully support you in this number. I bet it. I like the Colts here. Like we talked about, the only real fear here is the difference between this team that playing at home and on the road, they've just been a different team. They're obviously way

better at home this Colts team. And even Anthony Richardson in his young career, I mean, you can go back and look. He is a covering machine at home. He struggled a little bit on the road. Again, maybe that's to do with outdoors, all this other stuff that we don't know because he's only played, you know, 11 games up to this point, or 12 games in the NFL. So that stuff is tough to say. But another game, just like that one we talked about with the Jaguars, it feels like pros versus Joe's another week of the professionals are all hammering one side. And the public is very happy thinking they're getting a good number on the other side. So yeah, Chad, I'm with you and back in the books here and taking this three and a half four with this Colts team. Also a couple really

interesting injury developments. Riley Moss of the Broncos. the cornerback, the only player in the Broncos not to practice so far this week. So it does not look like he'll be playing. Anyone who was watching that Broncos Browns game on Monday night knows that William Vance, the cornerbacker replaced him, he just got freaking torched by James and Jerry Judy. That was the reason why they stayed in that game. Every single time you looked up, he was giving up a huge, huge play to Judy with including a couple of touchdowns.

So that's a big deal for the Broncos in their past defense. Also, Ryan Kelly, the Pro Bowl Center for the Colts, he is practicing again this week coming off injured reserve with an injury. He was limited in practice on Wednesday, but he is in the window where they can activate him if they feel comfortable with it. So that might be something that gives you a little bit more confidence betting on the Colts. Also, Anthony Richardson, you talked about it. He's got a touch of Bryce.

young in him in terms of since he's been benched. He's been considerably better. Pro football focus has him eighth in their overall passing grades, fourth and big time throws since his week 10 return. So we're on the Colts. I think we'll get him at four and a half in the contest, but I also like him at three and a half as you do. Simon, we can hear the bells.

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I thought this was going to end up being a foxhole game even though it was already our exact decision. I thought it might be a big balls even though it was our exact decision. Buffalo at Detroit, Detroit's minus two and a half. We loved it at one and a half and it moved, right? And it moved while we were on the show. Now it's at two and a half, 70% of the tickets on the bills. So we have a reverse line move here, which means even though the tickets are coming in on the bills, the line has moved in the lion's direction.

It's gone up. I think the lines are the better team. Nothing I've done since Tuesday makes me feel differently. I think they might be as healthy as they've been in weeks across the defensive line. They could be getting a lot of players back. They haven't played in 10 days. The last thing they did it was at home.

They haven't left home since they were on the road at Indy on November 24th. Where do you feel? How do you feel? What are you thinking? Am I wrong? I agree. I mean, I love the lines.

Obviously, we wish it was one and a half. If it's two and a half, chat, I could still see us putting this on the contest, just because I was my question for you. Like, I would. I'm waffling a little bit at the two and a half. I don't know why, but maybe I'm losing my courage a little bit because the number, because I'm like,

I'm hearing whispers about people who like the bills too. Yeah, me too. And my view with though is what you just talked about. I just think the lines, even with all their injuries to the defense, I still think they're the better team overall. I mean, we haven't really talked about just because the bills, I mean, Josh Allen, like I said, he's been Captain American. It hasn't mattered.

But they have, what, $60 million in Deadcat money? Some crazy egregious number of this season, because the whole thing that went on with Diggs, and they've overcome that because of him. But they have they overcome in the sense that they're about to beat now one of the best teams in all football in the lines at home. Like we just talked about it. It's like I get all the love and respect for this bill's team

and that this number has dipped below three. Like we talked Sunday night when this was at three, it's like, okay, at that number I would take the bills. But once it's dipped under that, that to me is why I want to be on this Lions team. And our hesitation here is just that me and chat, I don't know how many times we've been on the plus two and a half number and it's literally landing on two. We've covered almost every time on that two and a half.

So maybe that's the hesitation here. But there's a couple favorites I like this week at minus two and a half. And I'm going to ride with it. I just think matchup wise, it's a good matchup for the Lions team. That Bill's team is as good as they are and how great Josh Allen is. You know, this Lions team, I feel like we'll get stops defensively.

on the other side of the ball, I don't know how the bills will get stops defensively. Like it feels like if the Lions choose to run the ball down this Bill's team's throat, they'll be able to do it. Like that's, we've seen it now that this two-headed monster is just something special with Montgomery and Gibbs.

So, yeah, another game I'm trying hard out to everything, Chad, because I'm with you. My instinct right away was like, bills take Josh Allen as a dog, as a three-point dog,

take it now. But now we've settled into this week and the more I thought about it's like, oh, this is a good number. we're getting good value on this Lions team. I would honestly probably take this up to three now at this point. I probably would still take Detroit at minus 3

the more I've looked in this game. So yeah, just a tough spot for this Bill's team going off such a brutal game against the Rams facing, like you just said, a Lions team that's coming off extended rest at home, getting guys back healthy. This should just be a great matchup for them. Also, the Bill's coming off a brutal stretch, right?

Playing the Chiefs, playing the Niners, going across the country, playing the Rams in a crazy game, physical game. Now they've got to travel again for the Lions. It's a, it's a rough spot for the bill. So, all right, good. Then I feel better about putting the Lions in at two and a half. You've kind of convinced me.

You made me feel like. No, I've been hitting it. Like, I've been betting this. It was just sitting at two. I was like, I got to keep betting this until it goes up to two and a half. And there's still some twos out there if you want this number.

You know what? You've supported me the way Tommy Johnson. supports me. You are my personal Tommy John. Tampa Bay plus three at the Chargers. You've talked about it. You've liked it. You love this one on Tuesday. Second week in a row you like Tampa. Clearly, you are seeing something. You're right. It's split. I've heard things going both ways. So I feel like this is mostly a pro play though. Like I think the line is at three and it's going to go back down to two and a half. What are you seeing that makes you feel so good?

And as I told you, it's split that the guys taking the three are professionals, and I know plenty of professionals taking the two and a half on the charger. So it's just... Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think it's bouncing back and forth. It's a game that if you're like, I don't want to put this in because it's so split, I would totally understand, because it's definitely a game I was heavy on Monday and Tuesday on this Tampa team.

And I've pulled back as a week has gone along hearing some other people's opinions and look at the numbers of like, okay, do I really want to risk a ton of money on Baker on the road in this exact spot? But I just view this Tampa as a more complete team right now and a healthier team, playing against a Chargers team that I still think they're overvalued. Like I thought they were overvalued in the last week.

They got away with it, right? They had two good drives that resulted in touchdowns that really changed that game. Other than outside, those two touchdowns, they really didn't do much. Herbert didn't do much in that game. So even, you know, I'm not trying to bash Herbert because obviously he's playing with terrible receivers right now,

but he's also been inconsistent in the season, which is my knock coming into him this season was like, you can have a really good one quarter, but then he'll have three quarters of just struggling and not doing much. And this Tampa team, they have their running backs. Like they're not missing their top guy like the Jaguar, the Chargers are in J.K. Dobbins. And they're not missing their number of receiver

that like the Chargers are with Limeconkie. They have Mike Evans back. And you've seen it that they've kind of had Mike Evans, be break glass in case of emergency. Like they haven't really been forcing him the ball and put him in these terrible positions. They really mess with his lower body because that was injuries coming off of.

And looking at this matchup, you know, maybe they put Derwin James on it, but like I don't see anyone on the side of the charges I'll be able to take away the Mike Evans factor that whenever he wants he'll be able to get there. And, you know, as the season of guns along, as great as Joe Walt has been in the offensive line,

the charges have been, overall, they're not one of the best offense. of lines. Like there are ways to attack it, especially in the interior. So it's just about the number for me and loving this Tampa team. Like, unfortunately, I was hoping in our contest we would get three and a half. There's no way because we already talked about it. Like a lot of books have been moving to two and a half. So once again, it's a game that I love the number. We're not going to get the number I want and play in the contest. So if we don't want to put it in, I'm fine with that. There's other games I like as well. Yeah, I mean, I think this is this one, there were three games that were on this two and a half three line.

Houston, Miami, Tampa Bay Chargers, and then this last one, which I'll transition to, which is your Simon says, Green Bay, two and a half over the Seahawks on the road in Seattle. And this one has been bouncing around too. I think in most places it's now at three, although it was still at two and a half at Bet365. I think we'll get two and a half in the contest.

I actually feel pretty good about the Packers at two and a half. I feel better about the Packers at two and a half, favorites than I think I do about the box of two and a half as dogs. Yeah, my only fear with this is I've been hitting this pretty heavy and like I talked to a couple bookmakers and I was like, oh, you're going to move us up to three now and they said no. I was like, oh, shit. Maybe I'm stepping into one here because usually when I come in and especially guys who respect me, they will move numbers off my bet, but this one didn't budge.

So the books are taking a stain on the Seahawks. I know some professionals like the Seahawks here because they think their defense is still being a little underrated and that something's not read Jordan Love but it's like I don't know I go through all their games and watch them break it down it's like this is still a team that wants to run the ball in Green Bay

and if they can get any type of run game going it's going to be over for the Seahawks because that just builds off the floor just builds off that run game so strong the play action pass and we've seen it like Jordan Love loves to push the ball downfield off play action pass like if he has the checkdown

of five to ten yards and it's an easy five to yards, he will take the man that's covered downfield for the 25 yarder if he can. He just loves the push the ball downfield. It's just the way Jordan loves been this season. And we've seen the Seahawks, you know, as good as their defense has been, there are ways to attack in the ways that I think this Green Bay team can exploit. And on the flip side, it's like, at what point does this Seahawks team become overrated and a little overvalued, right? Like, they've had a run here where they've had some really great covers and, you know, shocking, they're 8 and 5 now, Heather Division, and I get what these pros are coming from, but let's just break down

since their bi-week, right? They went to the 49ers and they stole one, right? They got dying at that whole game that Gino turned it on. They won 20 to 17. Then they played Arizona at home, a team that we've been on fraud watch with Arizona all season. We always talk about it. We don't know if Kyler Murray is just inconsistent if he doesn't really, you know, know how to break down game from them, because it seems like a second half of the year. every time in his career, he struggles. So they lose to the Seahawks, right? Next game, they play the Jets,

another fluky game that they win, and then they go to Arizona and beat Arizona again. So it's like, I get why the public's coming in on this team after those four straight wins. When you really go through it, it's like, are they that great a wins? I mean, we already talked about those Arizona games, the first one was a little fluky, right?

They could have easily gone the other way. Jets game, same thing. So it just feels like it's a nice time for me to sell on the Seahawks team that I know professionals still buying on me to buy a low on a Green Bay team that I already gave this stat and everyone else has given it out. Vikings, Green Bay, Detroit, 28 and 3 playing outside their division this season. Like that's just not something we can ignore. Yeah, it's just are you buying the Packers losing against really good teams or the Seahawks

beating teams that aren't as good in fluky ways? You don't beat the Jets if they don't get that Leonard Williams touchdown return. for an interception, right? So I get it. I probably lean Packers minus two and a half for the contest versus bucks plus two and a half. But, you know, we can do that. I think we're going to a bigger bet. So it's like I'll probably make us put a green bang just because I'm so heavily invested. It's like make make the show be invested in it too. I don't have any. Look, I bet them both. I bet more on the Packers at minus two and a half that I bet on the box at plus three. Okay.

So, you know, you know, like you. I probably put, what, 100 grand on the Packers at minus two and a half, 200 grand? Sharp, sharp. We can talk about it at the show tonight. Last game, quickly I want to talk about because I know we want to get to Evan. The Bears plus seven. Like, it's just too big of a number. It doesn't make any sense.

There's no way the Vikings should be seven-point favorites against the Bears in the division. Like, if we didn't have the bias of the bears and what happened. last week, and we didn't have the bias of Sam Darnold lighting it up against the Falcons. And we just saw this number with teams in this division, and we saw the stats for the Bears defense, we would play the Bears. We just would. I'm not saying like we have to. I'm actually glad that I didn't hear from sharp calls that wise guys were coming in on the

bears at an excessive rate. But I'm just saying we would play the Bears. No, and every wise guy I talk to it does like that side. like, you know, this pro last night was saying his biggest bet of the night was Bears at seven. But he said, yeah, he says he loves it at seven, but it's your exact viewpoint of like, this is way too big for a divisional matchup, but I push back on. I said, I just, I can't trust Caleb splits on the road and home away.

He's just been a totally different quarterback on the road and then verse at home. And, yeah, it's, I'm happy or a way to check because honestly, I can't, I can't do another week with this, this Bears team. They've been good to us this season, so I don't want to be knocking them. too hard. Obviously we just called a bad one last week but I could, I told you my hesitation is I could easily see Kevin O'Connell

never calling off the dogs here just because they blew a 14 point league to this team, what, two, three weeks ago this Bears team? So that's my hesitation here is that if they want to because they are the better team, the Vikings really could open up and punish this team, but you're right.

Normally divisional game, seven plus seven, this is way too many points for this Bears team. So it's It's a tough one that we have to pass on, Chad, but it's like, don't make me bet this Bears team once again. No, look, I think we have five games that we like even better. And preliminarily, I just want to be clear you and I, because, like, we miscommunicated last week with the Panthers. Right now, Cleveland, four and a half, Jags three and a half, Pittsburgh five and a half, Colts, four and a half, Detroit, two and a half, Green Bay, two and a half. like of those six

who is your first one out it feels like it comes down to the it feels like it comes down to the jags right yeah I get your hesitation with the Jags not ones I really do just love the number it could be I told you I'm having a tough time chat

with this Pittsburgh number I'm not going to lie I'm having a real tough time with Pittsburgh so I would let you take the Jags out if you want to dig your heels on on Pittsburgh. I'm happy with that. Well, let's talk. We can dig, like, it just feels like we're... We'll talk to them after a couple of drinks. We'll figure this out with the fans. I feel like with the Steelers we're making the same... We'll ask the group.

What should be the last one in? But I do feel like we're making the same mistake we always make with the Steelers is trying to find a reason not to play Tomlin as a big road dog in a game that we think is going to be low scoring and they'll play conservative against an offense that likes to run the ball in the Eagles. I mean, you can't lie, that your sputty senses have to be going off and being like,

what the fuck is this number? They go off every single week with the Steelers now. Because it doesn't, because none of it makes any sense. Yeah. It goes off every week with the Steelers and the Chiefs.

It just does. Like, the ways in which they are covering or not covering, based on the trends, the Chiefs over as a favorite of three and the Steelers as an underdog, we say it happens six out of ten times, but now it's happening 10 out of 10 times.

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This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happens. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo.

Every episode we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them.

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Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jen she won. I mean, she went down to three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.

She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. All right. Time for our boosted underdog Moneyline Carle with our friends at Bet365. They're going to boost the odds. They're going to highlight this two-team Moneyline underdog Parlay on their site all weekend. It's going to be under both game pages for the teams that we are highlighting. Remember, both games are eligible for Bet365's early. pay a promo. Your money line pick gets marked as a win if either team takes a 17 point lead,

even if they lose. If you want to bet this, better to bet 365. The boosted parlay this week shouldn't be a surprise. Colts and Bucks. Find the boost under the Colts or Bucks game pages on Bet 365. Simon and I have a Moneyline underdog round robin. There will come a payday. Hallelujah. What a payday. There will come a payday someday, someday. There will come a payday. Hallelujah, what a payday. There will come a payday someday.

Cleveland Browns, Indianapolis Colts. Simon, correct me if I'm wrong in any of these. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Pittsburgh Steelers, Miami Dolphins. Is there anybody I'm missing? Do you feel strongly about putting someone else in? As an Eagles fan, I have a strong opinion, but no, is it better? No, I'll let it roll.

All right. What's your biggest bet? Colts definitely been hammering that, but again, it's, if you can find the four and a half four, that's really the key for that bet for me. Green Bay, I just can't stop betting a minus two and a half. And I know it's, usually I don't want to take this large position on a favor, but I can't help, but it just feels like such a good number right now. And last one is just Detroit at two.

If you can get the two, to me that's a big deal right now, this Lions game. I just, me and Chad, I've just seen so many games laying on two, two that I just, I don't want to get two and a half. I want to get the two. So right now, yeah, my two biggest bets are two favorites, Green Bayne, Detroit. Wow. I know. Who says we can't adjust? Over adjust.

We're just betting numbers, guys. That's all we're doing. When all hope is lost, all that's left is relief. Let's play Scooch Roulette. Scoot Chulette, you won last week. I lost. Damn, who did you lose on? Oh, you had Cleveland.

I had Cleveland. You had Minnesota. Remember, I got to choose first. I chose Cleveland and you were mad at me. And it turns out. No, that was just mind games. I was all mine games. I did you a favor.

Sheesh. I guess I will dig in and just I just love Green Bay. I'll take Green Bay two and a half. All right. Then I'm going to take Indy. I was going to go with Indy or Pittsburgh, but I'll take Indy. Before we get out of here, let's bring in Director of Research.

Evan Abrams. Final word. Talk to us, Evan. The last word with Evan Abrams. We're finished talking. So let's start with the buy week. Obviously, by is behind us, but that means this is going to be the last week where teams are coming off of a buy. interesting enough, teams who are coming off a buy

facing a team who isn't. Just nine and 13 straight up this season. $100 better, down $713 on the money line in this spot. Be the second worst season for teams off a buy over the last decade. Now, this week, that's New England, Houston, Baltimore, and Washington. Obviously, a few pretty big favorites in there. So we will see if anyone crashes and burns.

Let's go to this Philly and Pittsburgh game. Now, Simon was mentioning the George Pickett. information in terms of him being out this week. In my article, I wrote on Action Network, which I write every week. I talked about his impact on the game. So everyone should go check that out. But I want to talk about a stat with the game and then something off of it. So the Eagles obviously have the best rush attack in the NFL.

They're averaging 190.6 yards per game on the ground, best mark in the league. Now, it's interesting enough, and I looked this up because I was curious, Tomlin has done a really good job against rush offenses. 150 plus average, he's 23 and 16 against the number. 170 plus, he's 9 and 4, 180 plus he's 6 and 3. And the other interesting point. So, Steelers, great record, 76% win percentage entering this game. This is the most points he has gotten with his starting quarterback with that good of a record since 2008 with Big Ben.

So obviously that pickings news is massive, but it's interesting, the number is that high. So I understand you guys are kind of waffling there. All right, I got two more quick ones here. So not too many further trips in the NFL than Tampa to L.A. But in the past, we've talked about travel as a negative thing, which it is in certain spots, but this is just a for what it's worth. Since 2016, teams going EST to a road game in PST, 84 and 60 against the spread. Wow.

Including 21 and 14 against the number of the last two seasons. This week, Green Bay and Tampa Bay. both teams you guys like, so it fit well. And then I got one more for you. Now, everyone's going to keep going against Kansas City. They're going to keep winning and they're going to keep not covering. But this is just an interesting piece of information going into this matchup against Cleveland. So if you like the Browns, here's some facts that'll probably help.

Cleveland's defense has the second highest pressure percentage in the NFL. Mahomes has taken 35 sacks this season, 11 more than any other year of his career between weeks 1 and 14. he's been sacked 23 times in his last six games. His career high for his season before this year was just 28 in an entire year. And we talk about the James part of this, but the Chiefs only have 10 takeaways as a defense this year. That is for fewer than any team who has ever started 11 and 2. So James might give them an easy one,

but it's not like they've been taking it away from their opponents. So we'll see what happens this weekend. Evan, great stuff. You've confirmed our biases. which is all I can ask. And don't worry, the Chiefs have Stephen Nelson to the rescue. So their turnover,

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And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.

We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.

Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you. You funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an Acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or

wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. And nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves,

their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist

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