The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Favorites - NFL Betting Recap Week 2

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

Underdogs dominated another wild Sunday NFL slate.  Saints overwhelm the Dallas Cowboys. Packers suffocate the Colts. Tampa Bay is too much for the Detroit Lions. But the good old reliable Panthers get buried alive once again. Back to recap all the thrills and chills are Action Network NFL betting experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter, who discuss the Steelers victory over Denver, an absolute thriller in Kansas City, and so much more. Together they recap their contest selections, good and bad, and take accountability once again before Sunday Night Football kicks off. And In case you're new to the show, The Favorites $100K Pro Football Pick 'Em Contest is underway for a second season! Presented by bet365, this totally free-to-play contest has over $100,000 in cash prizes up for grabs to our listeners this NFL season. Make just five picks every week to compete for our $40,000 first place prize, plus thousands more up for grabs every week of the regular season. Visit Favorites.ActionNetwork.com to sign up for free and make your Week 1 picks today. And if you missed this week: no problem! All entries have their lowest score dropped after Week 5, so sign up now and compete for the season-long prizes! #Volume  #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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First one up. Niners. minus four and a half at Minnesota. Last game in. Biggest debate between the two of us. We were not on consensus in this. At noon, you said, and I'm quoting, I know it's a trap.

I just like this Niners team. If it doesn't work out, blame me on the show. I don't like to play the blame game because you're my BFF and we're in this together. But I still don't get why we like the Niners. We like walked away from it. It was all over sharp calls. Kerner, like, hated it, unconfinced me, hated the Niners, love the Vikings.

What happened? What changed our thinking here? Yeah, it was a bad week to go with the favorites. I just thought it was clearly an overreaction to week one. And, you know, Sean nailed it. The Vikings, even if it was just the Giants, they kind of previewed about what kind of team they wanted to be this season.

And it rolled over into this 49ers game. And yeah, everything that could go wrong, did go wrong for the 49ers, right? They didn't play the game they're used to playing. But Sam Darnold still made big time throws and big time plays. So at the end of the day, yeah, things didn't bounce our way, but that was a bad number. And you nailed it.

Like I, I've been, Basically, you were just like, we love the Bengals. We should put the Bengals in. You've been on the Bengals all week. And that was the team we switched out for was this 49ers team. So, yeah, they picked a bad week straight away from what this podcast is, which is betting ugly dogs and not taking chalk favorites. So, yeah, I'm going to own that one.

That was a bad switch out taking this 49ers team. Yeah, the Niners were off this entire game. the epitome of what went wrong for this team. There was a sequence where they went for it on fourth down at the Vikings goal line, didn't make it. Next series. Sam Darnold, it's Justin Jefferson for a 97-yard touchdown pass. Like, that was the epitome of this game. and we got to give credit to Kevin O'Connell.

Nobody wants to say how good of a coach Kevin O'Connell is. But at this point, Sam Darnold, two games, two and O, one win on the road, one win against the defending conference champion in the NFC, 476 passing yards, four touchdown, just two picks, QB rating of about 110. Yeah. Like, there was one point in this game where he, threw a bad pick to Fred Warner

and the Niners were getting themselves back in the game and I'm like, all right, Sam Darnold is back to Sam Darnolding and the Niners just could not capitalize. It was fucking excruciating. We were just, ugh, brutal. Yeah, two quarterbacks I was down coming into this season,

Sam Darnold, their car. We're 0 for 4 right now, betting against these two guys in our contest and they're both putting up career numbers. So, yeah, if Derrick Car wants to send me and Chad some money because we were the reason we sparked this outpour of averaging 40 points per game, reach out to us. I'm happy to take some because I'm broke, Chad,

trying to take these two terrible quarterback. So, yeah, Sam Darnold definitely had me eating some humble pie. He bawled out in this game. All right. Well, I'm going to skip ahead since you talked about Derrickar, and I'm going to go. to the Saints and the Cowboys. I hope that's okay with producer Tito

because it was a different order in the rundown. But look, but look, we loved the Cowboys this week. We so bought into the Cowboys. We so bought into the idea of what Dack has been at home as a big favorite, what Mike McCarthy has been at home as a big favorite. The last 17 games at home,

They had outscored opponents by 265 points. They hadn't been down by 11 points in the first quarter at home in four years. We had a Saints team that beat up on the Panthers that we were not buying. Derrick Carr only through 16 passes in the game and had 243 yards and a couple of tuddies. And has been, and this team's lightened teams up for 40 points a game, even going back to last season. like what are we missing here what do we miss on the cowboys what are we missing on the saints it's got to be kubiak right he came in he's their new oc and you see a change right that that offense they ran against the cowboys they basically had the cowboys on tilt the entire

game the cowboys were never comfortable i mean i think they drove got seven uh cowboys drove the field kicked the field go they got the ball back and they drove the field again and got a number seven and then Komara just took over from there. Like it was a great, just a great game all around from the Saints. Like there's really nothing to take away from it other than maybe I'll downgrade Dallas a little bit, right? I think we did see that they do have weaknesses. And if the starters do get tired on that D-line, they don't have secondary guys to come in, right? And you saw a little bit of the weakness on the Dallas front line, right?

Over time when they had to go into pass pro, there was definitely some weaknesses for their pass blocking. Yeah, interesting game. Again, still not going to overreact to it. Like the Saints, I'll move them up. They are definitely a better team when I perceive. They would be coming to this year, right? They clearly have found something here at their car. And we talk all the time, right?

Chad, the hot hand. Like, this could just be a streak, right? He could just be hot right now. He'll eventually cool off and go the other way. But I don't, I'm with you. I don't know if I want to step in front of this next week, even if we have a good number, which are looking at the look ahead. I think the value might be on the Saints team.

So it is interesting going out where it's like, when do you eventually sell on the Saints team? Because they are playing way above their head, right? They're back-to-back 40-point weeks. That's not what the Saints offense is going to be. As good as Kuback might be in this new system, this is just incredible right now what they're doing. So, yeah, that was terrible read, Cowboys. Yeah, we talked about beforehand. We knew another game we knew it was a heavy public play.

We just thought coming in, the Cowboys were a little underrated still. apparently they're properly rated, Chab. We were right the first time is basically what we're saying. The Saints had 432 total yards. They averaged 7.7 yards per play. 7.7 yards per play.

They had just under 200 yards rushing. Camara had four touchdowns. It's almost like, Derrickar and Alvin Camara were the Derrickar and Alvin Camara. In the best seasons, individually, each one had ever had before. They were just astonishing and the Cowboys were outplayed in every area of the field. It's so complicated with this Saints team right now. We thought their offensive line was terrible and that Micah Parsons would have his way.

And it's almost like whatever the Saints wanted to do, running the ball, they could do. It was more like it was also the second game in a row where early in the first or second series

Derrick Carr unleashes the ball to Rashid for a long touchdown. The number of explosive plays they had against this Cowboys team was just wow, that was

a beat down, a total beatdown. By the way, Sean Curner, Tener on his props this week so far. Not just his props, that's including his, he had that under he gave out,

and he gave out the Vikings, so. Sean Curner couldn't be hotter right now. All together, yeah, props, totals, straight bets. But here's what's even cooler. Here's what's even cooler. Nick Giffin, unconfixed me this morning, gave out Saints Cowboys to be the highest scoring game of the day

according to his luck rankings. I don't know if Evan can do the numbers and do a quick check because I can't think of every game. But every game today seemed to be pretty ugly. So right now that game is probably what, 63 points or something like that? Right now that might be,

and that was 10 to 1 to be the highest scoring game of the day, Nick Giffin based on the luck rankings, getting it from Billy Ward, one of our Action Network analytics gurus. So pretty impressive for the action network analytics team. Not as impressive for the action network non-analytic team of Simon and Chad today. That is, by the way, easily the highest scoring game of the day.

I did go two and one to convince me. I know you don't care, but five, ten people out there might care. I care. Listen, I care about all of it. You know, we got to own our tough days. We got to own our wins. You went two and one and convinced me that. That's impressive.

I think Raybon actually had Cleveland and he had his under on Tampa and Green Bay head. Or Tampa and the Lions hit, but he didn't hit on his prop. All right. Can't throw two touchdowns? I think he only had one touchdown. And then rest was brutal.

Yeah, it was brutal. Box at Lions. We're talking about we never fucking bet favorites. And we decided like, We were going all in on favorites this week. I know what happened. We are such fucking schmucks. It's ridiculous.

Yeah. Oh my God. The lions, they just, they wanted to give this away. We gave the lions way too much credit for how they beat the Rams, not enough credit to Baker and the bucks for the way they beat the commanders. Like, the lions, I think were 0 for five in the red zone or something like that, including a penalty on the final play of the first half. to keep them from attempting a field goal.

Like, they're just out of sorts. They were out of sorts against the Rams. We thought it might have just been game planning by the Rams. Is it worse than we think for this Lions team? I think we're kind of glaziner who is the blamer, and it's golf, right? He played terrible. He kept putting his team in terrible positions. Not just his interceptions were terrible,

but everything he was doing, even on third downs, his reeds were bad. He was always going. He was always falling back, thrown off his back foot. even if there wasn't pressure in the middle. He was acting as if there was, not going through his reads, not pushing the ball down field. Like, we talked going into this game.

This team is on their fourth and fifth cornerbacks, and they're all pro safeties out. Like, there was no excuse for this team to put up 16 points here at home. And the worst part of that game is the bucks left that minute, right? They kept kicking field goals instead of getting touchdown. So this game was always close throughout. So I kept doing the crummy math in my head.

Like, well, me and Chad just need this to break this way, and we can get to that number, when that number was dead on arrival. Like, we were just never getting there the way golf was playing that game. He was just awful. So not going to over-react to it. I think once they get it going,

I still think their defense played pretty well. I mean, they shut down Mike Evans for the most part. And I know Godwin beat them in a lot of ways, but I think the Detroit would have taken the way that game played out, right? They really shut down the run. Baker had a couple amazing plays where he ran outside the pocket

and, you know, was throwing head fakes on guys, guys going flying by him. That was a classic great game by Baker where he knew he didn't have all his pieces there and he still made it work and was able to get the 20 points. So yeah, that to me was definitely a golf lost that game

rather than, you know, that whole Detroit team played bad. I thought defensively they played pretty well. And even offensively, a lot of his guys were getting open. Again, we have to go back and watch the all 22. But just from what I watch, I just think golf was on that really let us down in this game. Like they had a bunch of

opportunities, he couldn't capitalize on them. And like you just said, before half, you know, him getting that false start, whatever the penalty he was, and then getting kicked off the field and getting zero points rather than getting three points before going in. It's just like, it all falls on him at the end of the day. So, yeah, bad day to back these quarterbacks, these big favorites. That made a difference, by the way, that play. I think it was 13-6. You go in 13-9. It changes what you're doing in the second half. It changes some of the play calling throughout the game. Aidan Hutchinson, by the way, who we bet 14 to 1 to lead the league in sacks, had four and a half or five sacks today. But to me, that was also just indicative of how

good the Lions can be, how they should have won this game. Baker was scrambling for his life. He made a lot of really great plays. But the Lions had this game. It was theirs for the taking, not just that like you, I was doing the gambler's math too. It was theirs for the taking to run away with it. Like they should have just dominated in this game. Their play calling was bad, golf was bad. Their defense gave up the wrong plays at the wrong times, bad penalties. Just so frustrating, so frustrating to watch this game.

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Denver plus two and a half Mike Tomlin mirror records basically as a road dog brilliant as a road favorite terrible

except rookie mistakes so many penalties in this game Bow Nix just could not get the ball downfield pick in the end zone when they were driving. That was a huge play. It turns out we loved Denver here.

Love them. This was one of the games we did not waver. Did not waver at all. No, and it's the same game we're going to talk about a little bit, the Green Bay game where it's like, I trusted the number and the spot, the situation with the team. And yeah, if you would have came to me and said,

Pittsburgh's only to score 13 points. Do you still want to make this bet? I probably would still make it, I'm not going to lie. Like, of course. Denver's team did their job. And, you know, Justin Fields, he's playing super smart and conservative, which is exactly how Tomlin wants him to play, right? He basically told him, you can lose us this game.

We don't need you to win it, right? They have the pieces around them to win the games for them. That comes on the defensive side. So when they drove the field, got that early touchdown, I still thought to myself, you know what? Denver's defense will figure this. out, but we'll be our, we'll stay in this. We just need to get three points, even six points at some point in this game, right? And then I think it was midway through the third quarter and it was still

like seven nothing or ten nothing. It's just, yeah, we're never going to get there. Like this kid will never get us there. And you said it, he gets us down there after a miracle trick play, and throws a pick in the end zone. It's just those are brutal beats in your bet on these rookie quarterback. So yeah, that's, that's a tough loss, but it's a spot we're usually going to play. This Pittsburgh team, you know, what did they score, 18 their first game, 13 their second game, they're 2 and 0 now, going home to play against a Chargers team that might not have Herbert who got banged up in their game.

So, yeah, we're definitely regretting betting their under. I mean, we talked about this Pittsburgh team. It's later in the year that their schedule is going to get really brutal. But this is Tomlin, such a Tomlin identity team, of just winning with a really grinding out defense with an offense that just does nothing for them. and they somehow keep getting wins. So, yeah, another team that's going to make us eat it right now is Pittsburgh.

They've just, they started this year incredibly. And again, they're 2-0 going home to play against the team without maybe Herbert. That's incredible think about it. Like, they're leading their division right now, right? And the Bengals are sitting there 0-2. Ravens are sitting there own two. I get at Pittsburgh fans, feel yourself. I've been hearing from them in my mentions all week.

And you're right. I just, I did not think this was going to be a favorable spot for you guys offensively. And you didn't need it. Your defense is that dominant. So, yeah, pretty incredible start for the season for Pittsburgh. Bengals, O and two, Ravens O and two. Browns one in one. Steelers 2 and O.

That's why the NFL is so great. That's why Sundays are so excruciating, like gut-wrenching. I tried so hard to like find my Zen so many times today. My mom called me right as the late, the early games were ending. Like I didn't snap. I kept my composure. My wife came in at some point because she wanted to talk about

when the guys can come to redo the floors in our older kids bedroom. And like it's going to be noisy. And when are my show is going to. to be and I'm like, I looked at my calendar. I kept my composure. You know, I didn't, I didn't snap. It was only once. It was only once where she wanted to talk to me about something else. Like I can't remember something else later this week. And I just looked at her. I go, I just can't engage on this conversation right now. Can we can we just do this? another day.

And she looked at me, she goes, I got it. I understand. Nothing helped. Nothing. I should have snapped. I should have taken my computer thrown across the room because maybe it would have inspired people on the TV screen. We got 16 more weeks, Chad, and we're just one five and a week away from me and eight

and seven. So don't you worry. I'm not going to start panicking yet, but let me tell you this much, people. If me and Chad, don't go at least three and two next week, I don't mean. we've really fucking pissed off. Right now I'm pissed off, but I'm like, I think Chad, you said it best to me before we even did our picks. Not that I'm letting the fans make our picks here,

but there were some ugly dogs I like this week, and I simply didn't even bring them up, and I even said it to Chad, I was like, I don't want these fans the mutiny against us. I want to go chalk, so the fans are happy. And Chad didn't say fuck the fans, but as politely as Chad could put it, he said, dude, who fucking cares what the fans think?

Give me your best picks. and I didn't do it. So I'm filled with regret on that and going forward, it won't be Carolina, it won't be the Giants, but man, we're going to be playing some fucking ugly dogs.

We're getting back to what made us so great. Yeah, no more six and a half, seven point favorites. I can't believe that happened this week. Well, look, to speak to that, you loved the Raiders this week.

You talked about the Raiders winning this game outright. We didn't even talk about the Raiders. You hated them. That's why it's like if you hated, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to bring up a team that looked like complete dog shit. When you immediately are like, I hate it. I'm like, I agree. They looked horrible against the Chargers.

I had no rebuttal to what you said. Antonio Pierce, that was one of the worst coaching jobs. But you're right. Like that's a line I loved. And I still somehow let us put a survivor. And I'm out of all my survivor pool. So I don't even know. Do you still have to do that fucking shit?

I don't know if I have it left in me, dude. Like I've never been out. Two weeks in a row. Now we're spiraling. Now we're just in a bad place. We tried to keep it together for a good 25 minutes. And we are just. No, that survivor hurt because I saw that coming a mile of the way.

And I still stepped right into it. Oh, my God. I'm in a survivor where you've got to choose two teams, at least twice between two and ten, between weeks two and weeks ten. I chose the Ravens and the Cowboys. Right. I'm like double out.

It's not. So we didn't do the Raiders, didn't even discuss it. We talked about the Browns a lot. And I felt like I felt like I liked the Browns more than you did. Definitely. But we were both nervous about Deshawn Watson. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence, I don't think he's very good.

He's like 14 of 30 for 220 yards. And he is just missing players, making bad decisions. I continue to not see what people are seeing that makes them believe this can be a playoff caliber team. No, you're right. And he was definitely my biggest miss since we've been doing the show of guys coming out of college

into the draft class. I did put him up there as a KMS prospect of this kid will be a pro bowler. He'll lead his team to the playoffs. He's going to be a staple for a team for 10 years. And you're right. He's not looked that way. in a year.

The one year he was good to us, he got me and Chad, the big win, 10 to 1 in their division. And I think that's why we have a little bit of a sweet spot for him. But you're completely correct. I mean, that game, he had opportunities and he did not take advantage of it. And he was just terrible for about three quarters. So he had so many chances to win that game. It was just astonishing, how frustrating that was to watch.

He's now lost his last seven starts, including four games as a favorite. So certainly we're going to be betting the Jacksonville Jaguars next week. All right, so those are the games that we left out. Good for us, by the way. We didn't bet the Giants and Daniel Jones. We stayed away from the Titans and Will Levis.

We obviously didn't do the Panthers. Like a lot of the games where we could have been tempted, we weren't. We just made bad decisions about the games that ultimately we put in, which is unfortunate. One of the good decisions, which we were on... At least we didn't put the Rams in either, though.

That was another team we talked about. Oh, right. Yeah, we talked about the Rams. We stayed away from that. So, you know what? Good for us. It came to, basically, it came down to like four or five games that were coin flips,

and we just made the wrong choices on four or five games. Back to back weeks of that, though. Like, the games we left out, no doubters. And this week, even the Patriots, we talked about briefly because they were three and a half, and we left them out and it's like, of course, that came right down to that number, typical.

We did not take the bait on the Colts when Malik Willis was the starter. In fact, we liked the Packers. The wise guys liked the Packers. This line moved from three and a half to three down to two, closed at three. Anthony Richardson came down to Earth through ugly picks,

confused, outmatched. But this was Matt LaFleur Like just a brilliant game plan From the very beginning He made Maliege Willis comfortable And had this Packers team dominating Yeah, and I feel like we both nailed it, right? We said we believed in the floor

Somehow figuring this out And we said we didn't think Green Bay's defense Was as bad as they played in that Eagles game And that they would have ways to attack Anthony Richardson And kind of make them one dimensional That's what happened in this game I mean, Anthony never got any type of rhythm. Even heading to that fourth quarter,

they finally were able to drive the field and get a touchdown. But it just took them forever to kind of get that together where Green Blade played just the exact game they wanted to play, right? I think Malik only threw the ball 10 times maybe. I remember at one point he was eight for nine for like 50 yards. And it's like, okay, this is how LaFleur is going to play this, right? Just super conservative, just feed Josh Jacobs to eat away at that clock. And they did exactly what they want to do.

That game couldn't have gone any more perfect. for that Green Bay team. You know, the two and a half, never in doubt, right? That was like our one little conversation beforehand. Obviously we wished we had the three, the three and a half, which most people in their contests were having or if you're gonna bet it against the spread. But another nice spot, we didn't let it scare us off.

We were just like, you know what? This is still a good number. Even if Anthony Richardson hit that Helmere, we were still good with the cover. That's always a nice spot to be in. So yeah, desperately needed one win today. to avoid our never we've never gone 0 for five which is not that great of a claim to fame but it is for us this is year six um avoided it thanks to this green bay team with their backup quarterback and that

to me that game sums up this show though right chad there's a bunch of reasons why we shouldn't have taken green bay but we trusted the number trusted the coaching and at the end of the day there was never a doubt between those two things right there was definitely a coaching advantage and the number was just a great number to be on so um yeah thank god we got that one win. Malik Willis, 13 of 14 in the game. But to give you an example of what kind of passes he was throwing, eight yards per pass, 122 total yards leg. He was just thrown to the first guy that was open within four or five yards of the line of scrimmage, had a lot of great runs, 41 yards rushing. But this was Josh Jacobs, you know, 151 yards rushing. The only, the only bad thing was,

fumbling as he went into the end zone. In years past and in weeks past, that has burned us significantly when a team is up 10-0 about to score. And it seems to happen like at least four or five times a year. That happened last week with Travis Aten when we had the Jags at plus three and a half. Barely got out of that game with a win.

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But different decision making. We could have been two and three. We could have been three and two. We got to work with each other. We got to continue to communicate. We got to continue. You know what we got to do? We just got to tell each other the truth.

We just, we just, we have to tell us each other exactly what we're thinking about whatever we're thinking. We can't try to be nice to each other. Just cold, hard truths, Simon. You can't handle the truth. Well, that's also true, but I can handle that true. I'll get it right. Again, it's just, we've made, we, we took positions made, made early reads. And I just said it at the base of our biggest issue right now is we are O for,

in this contest against Sam Darnold and Derek Carr. We can talk all day what we want about all our different picks. That is our biggest issue right now is we were being murdered by Sam Darnold and Derek Carr in the year of 2024. Oh my God. Betting is the worst. It's the best. It's just the worst.

But now I'm looking at these lines next week. There's some good ones. There's nothing that jumps out to you? What do you think? easiest one right now is the Saints are plus two and a half against the Eagles. So I was looking at that, but I wanted to see. You know that stinks. People were coming on the Eagles, especially if they wipe the floor with this Atlanta team.

So that's one like Chad was about to say, we could wait and see on that, right? Maybe the Eagles do win big and we can get a plus three. But there's something fishy about that Eagles line in generally. I think you were on it earlier this week where you talked to how you kind of liked Atlanta. So I'm going to grab the two and a half just in case the Eagles do somehow lose this game and this number does drop down to a pick

because right now the way the Saints are playing, I don't think the Eagles are two and a half points better than them, right? Like that to me feels like a little bit of a reaction where this Eagles team is good but they're not that completely formed team

but they're just going to go on the road and roll the Saints team by three points. I think that's an interesting early line. Another one that jumped out to me I don't know how you feel about this one is the Titans, they're minus two at home against Malik. I know. That's what I'm saying, though. Like, this is a gross spot you kind of want to play where it's like everyone's out on Tennessee.

No one's going to be on Tennessee in this spot. That was just another one that jumped out to me. Chad hates it. All right, let's find something that Chad. No, no, I did. I looked at the Tennessee game and I'm like. What about Raiders minus seven against the fucking Panthers? Can we listen to our fans who told us just,

Bet against the Panthers every week for a year and see how it works out for us. Which right now, that guy's 2-0 this season. Gardner-Minshoe is 2-0. Who's 2-0? I'm saying, like, people are... Whoever, whoever... Instead of been in Carolina, every week,

just bet the other side. And they're right. They should be hosting this show. What about Baltimore as a one-point favorite in... Or Dallas is a one-point dog against Baltimore at home? I got no clue to what to do with that line. because a part of me wants to take Lamar. But I have no read on that one.

I did see that line, but it's, I'm a classic thing. I'll turn to Evan once that trend comes around. That if Lamar flips to a dog, I'll probably be on Lamar, right? But I don't know how people are going to bet that professional or public. Rams, seven and a half. Underdogs at home against San Francisco.

Another line, like, I'll take it. That's going to be a game. we want to bet for sure. The wise guys are going to come in and move that. They're going to take that hook right away. A lot of early hooks. You can get Vikings plus three and a half against the Texans and you can get

Arizona plus three and a half against Detroit. Like those are also hooks. Where do you think those hooks go down? You think Detroit ends minus three? Yep. I think the Rams at seven plus seven. Um, Rams are seven and a half on Beth 365.

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think they're going to go to, I think it's going to go to minus seven. They could, but, um,

they're fucking bad, man, that Ramstein. Like Cooper Cup, our guy, he had a bad ankle in the second quarter. He didn't play the rest of that game. I know they were down by 30 points of that point.

Yeah. But, um, so you have no Puka, no Cooper. And you have, I think, only one starter left on their offensive line.

The line does make sense. So I don't want to get too ahead of it. I might not fire away on that one yet. Because I can't see that one going down. It's just all bad. Just real quick, I want to get your early feeling about this. Before the Bears even play, Bears plus one and a half at the Colts next week.

Yeah, I looked at that. You think they cover tonight? That goes down to a pick? Yes, 100%. I'm going to throw a little on the Bears. Even though I have bet Houston, I do think Houston covers tonight. I don't know if the Colts deserve to be a favorite

over anybody right now. No, their defense was not good, and their rush defense especially was really bad. Problem is, like, what we've seen from Shane Steichen as a coach is more impressive than what we've seen from Matt Ibrifluz as a coach, whereas LaFleur

is a top five coach in the NFL. So, like, the game plan will be different. They'll be at home. I think it'll be a little bit, like I like the way this is lined right now.

I might even take the Colts because I think if the bears get killed, which they probably will tonight, could go a little bit higher. Well, just to keep a little bit more. little clean so people know exactly what I'm grabbing. I'm grabbing Tennessee now minus two against Green Bay grabbing the Saints right now plus two and a half

against the Eagles and I got to do it man I got to grab the Raiders minus seven against the Panthers it's just I can't get over how poorly coached this Panthers team is in every aspect from the defensive side to the offensive side it's all so bad and at least this Raiders team I feel like more and more, we're seeing exactly what their identity is, right, Chad? It's like they got this defensive line that they're not going to always give you problems, but when they need to, they can give you major problems. And we saw that it pop up a couple of times in this game. And offensively, I feel like they're going to be able to bully ball this Panthers team. So the professionals,

they might come in on the other side, but I just, I think they've been burned so bad these last two weeks. I know I have by this Panthers team. I wouldn't touch this unless I got up to And so I don't know what they're going to do with this one, but that's how low I am on this Panthers team right now. Well, that didn't take long for us to go from thinking they were potentially going to win the NFC South to now we are so low. We won't even bet them as massive underdogs against a net. And it's crazy where my model loves them.

Like even after that loss yesterday, I have this line at six. In what world? That's what I'm saying. My computer's a fucking idiot. In what world would you, give that kind of number that Bryce Young. Like he just does not deserve it. So I'm just, this is more of a human thing where it's like I'm, I know the numbers is going to say this is a team you

want it back and the number's gotten too big. And obviously it's, it's insane. I think Minchew is a seven point favorite over anybody. But this is who it would be. A team with no identity, no backbone. And I mean, they have to have one of the worst defensive lines in all of football. I mean, they just cannot stop offenses from running the ball. So this, this, this. This plays right into this bully mentality of this Raiders team. And it's like, I wanted to fade them because it's a letdown spot after this huge road win against this Ravens team. But this is the perfect team to have coming to town against this Panthers team.

Yeah. Also, I think the letdown happens more often when you're a really good team that has had a win like that. Then if you're a bad team where expectations are low. And the one thing Antonio Pierce has proven he can do is get his team up for a game. right like forget about in-game coaching which he did a very nice job against the ravens and outcoached john harbaugh um but i don't think he'll have any problem getting his team ready and seeing how to stay motivated against the panthers team don't want to bet the raiders at minus seven not yet um but i can understand this not being a letdown spot for sure what number would that titans

number have to be for you to come around eventually pick Seriously. Like, Will Levis is so, so bad. So bad. Like, they didn't win that. They, like, they didn't cover today. And they had plenty of opportunities to. Yeah.

I thought their defense actually played really well. So the question is, like, can they do things defensively that the cults were not able to do? but I'm not ready to bet on Tennessee even as a short. We're going to have to find some O and two teams you like though. Like that's the big thing. Oh, yeah. Totally. There's O and two teams that you just simply have to back

because historically these are good. I mean, Evan will have the trends for us, but I just know these are usually spots we want to bet just because, again, I'm looking at this is what team is everyone completely out on other than the Panthers? I mean, Titans have to be number. number two or three. I mean, all betters. Like, even pros I've talked to are so out on this team. Um, they thought this was a smash spot against this Jets team on a short week, right? And it looked

that way, like you just said, for three quarters, they were feeling pretty smart. And then somehow they get rolled and they lose by seven, which is just crazy. So, um, I get your hesitation. I'm just, I'm trying to get, get your mind ready for just some, this horrible, painful bet this upcoming week. Yeah, but I'm more inclined to take the 0 and two Colts at minus 1.5 versus taking the 0 and 2 Titans at minus 2 because I think the coaching advantage is so much greater for the Colts. The talent at quarterback is so much greater for the Colts. We've seen them perform against a really good team. The Bears are not a really good team. So the idea of getting the Colts at minus one and a half. I was surprised that that was sort of

of a game where you might be leaning towards the bears a little bit. Because I know we have to bet an O-N-2 team. Right. I'd rather bet a very short home favorite in the Colts than a short home favorite in the Titans with Will Levis, who you know he will make. He's done it twice in the past two weeks. He will make the mistake that is boneheaded, that is not the mistake you should make, that will have catastrophic impact. You're right.

And again, you mentioned the Ravens, they're an O-N-2 team. that kind of fits that bill what we're talking about. So you're right, there are better teams we can take with the O and two record. But I'm just trying to find us what's the grossest ones right now. And that, you know, I'm not going to force in the Giants plus seven obviously. And I don't think we want to force in Denver plus seven in that spot. They're on the road right now against this Bucks team. So can I read this Evan stat?

Amazing Evan Amistat. Yeah. Winless teams in game three, 42, 23. and one against the spread. So 65% in the last decade, first teams with at least one win. So there's a little bit of method to this madness. We'll find these 0 for two teams we agree on.

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