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Episode Date: September 30, 2024

What a slate! Action Network NFL betting experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter discuss a gross Bears victory, a gritty cover from Jim Harbaugh's Chargers, the dynamic Jayden Daniels, and so much more. The boys got hot this week, finishing 4-1 in their contest, and remain undefeated with their Tommy John Big Balls Bets of the Week. Together they recap all their picks, good and bad, and take accountability once again before Sunday Night Football kicks off. And for new listeners, The Favorites $100K Pro Football Pick 'Em Contest is underway! Presented by bet365, this totally free-to-play contest has over $100,000 in cash prizes up for grabs to our listeners this NFL season. Just visit Favorites.ActionNetwork.com to sign up for free and make your picks today. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that Game 7, Marquis keep coming to him. He's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball.

So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you You get your podcasts. Welcome to the favorites, the podcast presented by Bet365. We are part of the Volume Podcast Network live from our Tommy John Home Studios. I am Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. This is our Sunday night episode in which we review the faves five picks that we put into the contest, dissect some of the games we might have left out. We're going to preview the early lines we already liked for week five.

My co-host, my companion, my compadre, my BFF professional better. Simon Hunter is joining me. Hello, Simon. Chad, how we doing, brother? We haven't been this happy since before the season started, and we're going to get to why. But I do like that right before we went on air, you said to me, oh, man, there are some juicy lines. next week. So I'm excited to dig in on that because we targeted a couple of lines that ended up in our contest plays that we landed on perfectly. At last, Simon, we finally had a week.

We finally had a week where I'm not walking up to the third floor to my Tommy John home studio. And I'm thinking, I cannot believe we have to talk about these games. Our boosted money line parlay at bet three six five was the colts in the bucks it won actually won in the first half thanks to the bet three six five no sweat offer that paches people's tickets as soon as your team goes up by 17 we won our simon says which was indy plus two we won our exact decision decision which was bears minus two and a half we won our big balls bet at the week which was the chargers plus seven and a half we'll get to it started the day three and on the contest with the Bears Colts Bucks.

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So let's start there. Look, it was a huge luck game, a game you liked from the beginning, a classic fade Tomlin spot, a classic sell high on the Steelers. For a half, Simon, we were absolutely 100% correct. Yeah, I think it all came true. The only fear was their defense,

of the Colts, right? We talked before the game, all the injuries and that was a little scared, but we were just saying, got to trust the number, got to play the number and play the situation in the spot. And obviously felt pretty good, but I would say if you're a Pittsburgh fan, even though it was the Colts defense, you got to be pretty excited about Justin Fields, right? He made a lot of plays that's like, okay, Justin Fields of the Bears would have thrown to pick here. He would have made a stupid fumble. He had a couple of big time plays in that game. So unfortunately, what happened, Anthony Richardson was, see what's going on with him, going forward but not that big of a decrease chat when i look at my model when joe flacco comes in there

so um i was upset as i was when he went out because it changes the whole dynamic of the game at least it's at least it's joe flacco that was my first thought and it's like he won't burn us hopefully in this game and they just played it simple and that's what they did right so you're right like that comeback got a little tight there at the end but um yeah in the end all worked out so um Joe Flacco came in, Anthony Richardson goes out. And I never was concerned. I mean, look, they were up 17-0-0 when Anthony Richardson, no, they were up 10-0 when Anthony Richardson went out.

Joe Flacco comes in. There's a nice touchdown pass. His first pass is a touchdown pass. They're up 17-0. So I wasn't that concerned. I'm thinking, okay, this is Jonathan Taylor time. Run the ball, run the ball, run the ball. And like you said, like look, at the end of the first half, I want to look at the numbers here.

Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacco combined 12 of 18, 155 yards, two touchdowns against the Steelers D. And the Steelers needed a Chris Boswell 50-yarder to get on the board at the end of the half. Even through like most of the third, the cults were crushing it. Matt game missed a field goal. And then all of a sudden, that Colts defense, I don't know if it's, they're already not that good. And the injuries started to pile up, like when the game tempo changed a little bit,

I think it played to the advantage of the Steelers because Justin Fields was all of a sudden using his legs and tiring the Colts weakened a defensive line and secondary out. But all of a sudden, like, Fields hits pickings, then the Steelers score, and the next 90 minutes, it's just a sweat. Colts score, Steelers score, Colts score, Steelers score. Justin Fields was a real QB every time you fucking turned on red zone. The Steelers were in the red zone.

He threw for 312 yards and a touchdown, completed 64% of his passes, ran for 55 yards and two touchdowns. He never Justin Fields, which was so far. frustrating. Well, he did have that dumb. He had that dumb fumble, didn't he? Well, that's what I was going to say. And we needed that. Like, finally, he pulled the Justin Fields on the final few plays, including a fumble.

He is still never won a game. Great Evan Abram stat. When opponents score more than 20 points. How crazy is that? I mean, it's crazy, but it's also, I mean, he was on the Bears. I can't hold too much against him. He went through the dark days of the bears. So that's why I wanted to give him a little flowers

because I was like, when we were up 17, 3, I was like, man, this is over. They ain't no way that they're coming back with Justin Fields. And like you just said, they hit a couple big plays and they just wore out that Colts defense where it ended up being a sweat. But again, never really in doubt, right?

That was the nice thing about getting that number. It's like, yeah, it was like scared at the end there, but we were up the whole game. So that's always nice when you have a dog and you never really are down in a game. Well, look, we got the extra field goal we needed, and that sort of helped and took a little bit of the pressure off. Or maybe we got the extra touchdown we needed.

That took a little bit of the pressure off. But definitely when all of a sudden it was 2724 and Fields has the ball, I'm like, oh, Jesus, crap, I cannot believe we're going to lose this game and we're going to lose the Moneyline parlay because the Colts couldn't hold a lead. It does make me think about next week, and we're going to talk about

the Steelers Cowboys line later in the show. I know it's something I was looking at. I don't know if you were thinking about it. But I do wonder what the market will feel about Justin Fields' performance today. Okay. Philadelphia at Tampa Bay, the line was two and a half.

Kudos to you. I take no credit for this. All flowers for Simon, because it went exactly the way you said it would. Eagles bat on the road, his favorites. incredibly injured. Wayne Johnson,

Devante Smith, AJ Brown, hot weather. They looked washed from the second the game started even when they tried to make a run.

It was short-lived. Well, handicapped, Simon Hunter. Yeah, those are the fun ones when it's like, you know,

we talked last Sunday night and I basically told you this is going to be one of our five. I know you were like, I don't want it to be. I can see it on your face. And I was like,

I know this is painful to hear right now, this is going to be. So that and the Colts are just two matchups. You just, I started betting Sunday night, bet it throughout the week. And,

you know, this Tampa line went from two and a half down to plus one. And when the Colts line started going the other way, I was like, oh, man, I wonder where professionals are coming on the other side. And, you know,

that never really happened here in this Tampa game. It was just all public loving this Eagles squad after, you know, Tampa kind of laid an egg the week before, which I said totally understand. I got why the public perceived it that way, but we talked beforehand. All the injuries to the Eagles, it was going to be too much for them to overcome. When you're putting all that on to hurts his plate and he's not playing consistent, right?

He's turning the ball over too much. It's going to rear its ugly head eventually. And we just got really lucky that the bucks just came out firing. Like that's, those are the days when you bet on Baker, he's got it today. Like some days he does not have it. Like last week, he did not have it. This week, Baker was in his bag. whole game. So that's a fun one to bet because it was never really a worry. And then all of a sudden,

it was like a blocked extra point. The Eagles were only down two touchdowns. It was like, okay, is this actually going to be a sweat? And of course, it was not. Tampa just absolutely rolled that one. So yeah, to start with those two in the one o'clock window, that's, that's really nice, the boost of the ego. Baker was in the kitchen mixing up something sweet. for dessert. What do you think of that? I thought there's so many ways you could have gone. That was probably one of the lamest ways.

I think the bigger, you're right about Baker. Look, he was amazing, just on point. I mean, it was crazy, some of his throws.

Because I watched all that game. At one point, he was 13 to 15 for 144, two touchdowns. And then he had an RPO in which he kept the ball and scored a touchdown. Like, yeah,

laid the shoulder down, like, on the safety. He could do no wrong. And I think we love Baker, and we've always loved Baker, and we love Baker when he was on the Browns, and he has such moxie, and he got that team of the playoffs, and he did it again last year with the box,

and we were planning on fading the bucks. We did not think he could rekindle this magic. They've had a little bit of, like, getting the right teams at the right time. You know, they got the Eagles exactly at the right time to get the Eagles. I'm not discounting their way. the lines. Like, it's just great, great wins to the resume where those could be tie rickers come playoff time. Yes.

Yeah, like you're saying the hats off to them and everything their coaching staff is doing right now. Right, because I was going to say, like, just because they're getting teams at the right time, they're also getting teams when they're coaching these teams, the buck's up really well. Like Todd Bowles, we were not Todd Bowles fans and he's been incredibly impressive. There are two questions we have to ask ourselves going forward. Who are the Eagles right now? They're heading into the buy. it's going to be an excruciating couple of weeks for Philly fans.

It's going to be a great couple of weeks for WIP and Philly Sports Radio. You should just start writing down the best lines. I don't know if we know who the Bucks are yet. And that's going to be an interesting one to talk about for next week as well. I've already marked that one on my list. Who are these Buccaneers and what do we believe about them, how they've been coached, how they've played? I think we know exactly who the Chicago Bears are. We had them.

They were the exact decision. Two and a half. By the way, Indy was the Simon says. I mean, these were two terrible teams. Like, it was a comedy of errors. At one point on the Bears' second drive, they had back-to-back offensive penalties and a first in 25. And Caleb Williams actually had the,

if Jerry West is the logo for, for the NBA. The logo for NFL bloopers is a quarterback who goes to pass, fires his arm back, and the ball slips out of his hand before he has any forward motion. Caleb Williams had one of those today. Like, they won, and we're going to get to how they won. But I know you put this on your main TV, and your friends were not happy about it. No, I'm watching a bunch of professional betters, and these are, you know,

they got big money on some of these games, and they were just, just like this is this game is garbage why are we watching this game and um i think the general view of kaila williams is what you're feeling right now which is like these moments of greatness and then these other moments of you keep this up you're going to be out of the league in five years like it's it's really a roller coaster and i mean again i think it was six nothing to start the game whatever it was and i'm just thinking myself this might already be too big of a hole like now we're going to have to have Caleb Williams passing the rest of this game, which is the last place I wanted to be. But your team's just like we're going to talk about it, man. They're just, I like,

they can pull teams down in the mud and make the game ugly and they can win in different ways. And that's what's been, you know, fun and excited about this team. Like, you know, they haven't had the easiest schedule to start the year with a rookie here. And you guys have been in just about every game. So I think the bar set so high. I mean, we haven't gotten to it yet. But like, you know, the kid in Washington's, it's unfair, right? One looks completely in control, confident, calm, and Williams looks like what most rookies should look like, which is the bullets are flying.

You've taken some really hard hits on your chin, so you got a little bit of noise the back your head being like telling you what to do. But overall, you had a great read on this game. Like you read the number right. We said the Rams would have a letdown after that huge win the last week. and you kind of saw that, right?

They didn't look like they had it that whole game where against the 49ers they were able to move the ball against the Bears, they had these little moments and then overall things just kept stalling. Their offense didn't look in sync today. So, yeah, we bet it up minus one on Sunday night.

You talked about it all week. I think I bet it again at minus two and a half. It got up to three. Put a little more on it this morning after we talked about it again and it was just like, man, once the game started, I was like, holy shit,

I got a lot to ride it on this game. It's Caleb Williams, but yeah, that was a really fun game to watch and a good bet to win. Well, look, we're going to talk about this with Jaden Daniels, too. But what's interesting about Caleb Williams that is infuriating is he just stands still in the pocket for some times up to a second, a second and a half, which obviously doesn't seem like that long. But if you're a statue in the pocket and not necessarily. making it difficult for the defensive linemen who were coming at you against a weak offensive line. It's like he just gets swallowed up. And like it's so infuriating. It happened

three or four times where he just did not freaking move. And they got him. The Bears had seven penalties in the first 20 minutes of gameplay. Like it was horrendous. It was bad football. Yeah, but to your point, I never felt like they were out of it. You said 6-0 was too big of a hole. Now that I've watched, no joke, every single play of this team's season so far, their defense has playmakers. And their defense was terrible today. Like Matthew Stafford and Kyron Williams were ripping them apart in the middle of the field. They could not stop them. And then all of a sudden, in the second half, they kind of, they started to play Big Boy football. They had a great 12-play drive for a touchdown, and they gave up a touchdown in the next drive. No, there was an opening drive. That was scared. The opening drive that second half was a Rams, drove down the field. William was going to rip the middle touchdown. Yeah. Again and again. We might have a problem here. They really ran through your guys' team. Like you said, they made adjustments and they took away their run, which is what they needed to do in that second half. It was really impressive.

and then they gave up a touchdown to the Rams. The lead was two. And then they had another touchdown drive. This time it was almost entirely on the ground with D'Andre Swift finally running forward. What's that? I said, you're right. Swift had a good game.

He finally ran forward instead of like dancing. Remember we talked about on Thursday, like he has the most exciting three yard runs ever, ran forward, 36-yard touchdown run. And then they had a first. four-minute drive that basically ended the game. Like the Rams had no time, terrible field position. Matthew Stafford threw a pick from deep in his own territory.

Like, they played like a real freaking football team. And that's what, like as much that I want to hate on Williams, what are you sitting here at, Chad? What are you two and two? Two and two. So how are you going to complain? It's like, not complaining. It's just, it's, don't compare it yet, people.

Just give William some time. He's got a lot more growing pains than this. But there's just these little. moments that gave me so excited about him and what his prospects are going for. And the biggest one is he's finding ways to win right now. And we talk a lot of time of football, you know, that's the hardest thing to do. Same with Bo Nix. Like, again, we're not going to really talk about because we didn't bet it. But it's like, when you're a rookie and you can just find a way to win, I think at one point he was, Bo Nix was seven of 15 passing for minus seven yards. Yeah. And he's

still got to win today. And it's like, if you're a fan of your team, that's the most, that has been the most exciting thing. You can just win these ugly games when you have a rookie quarterback. So, yeah, Bears fans, you should be feeling pretty good being two and two. It's like that, that to me, if we're looking at your guys four games to start the season, this is right where I thought you would be. It's just, you just had a really tough start. It's nice they're coming out to and two, too. I will say, another game that I've put on the list of early lines to discuss Bears, Carolina. Now, Simon Hunter, for the first time this season, I'm going to ask you a very important question.

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Washington, Arizona, I'll be completely honest. I never actually bet the Cardinals this week. I know they were in the contest. We liked them a lot. I felt okay getting them in the contest at three and a half because I did think the Cardinals were the right side, but I wanted a little bit more insurance than I could. kept waiting for the number to get to three, waiting to get to three. I didn't want to pay the premium to get to minus three. So it just didn't happen. Not too sad about that now, but they are in

the contest for us. Jaden Daniels, talk about a contrast. And I'm not comparing Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels like, oh, the Bears made the wrong pick. But Jaden Daniels is nimble and light and sort of alert in the pocket, right? Like he's not just mobile for mobility's sake. He's mobile because he's seeing things and making himself difficult to bring down no matter what the circumstances around him. He's amazing. This team doesn't punt. They score it will. They gain 500 yards like it's a first down. I don't have to say about this guy. He's unreal. Yeah. And just, I mean, if there is a team that is going to make the wrong pick it is going to be the bears but it's impossible for them to know that they couldn't have made the wrong pick there like to me it's there's just too there's too many things with

daniels that um this is all like i just can't believe how good it all is right now he literally looks like he's back in lSU com's a cucumber back there picking his spots i mean even when there's pressure he makes the right read to step up um it's it's crazy especially because i you know i watched I had a lot of money on different bets in that game. I think I lost every single one. And it was mainly because I was just like, this kid can't do it again. Like it's just, that's historically a bad spot for a rookie.

You know, the team would get hits on and make them uncomfortable early in that game. And then I thought it would just go south. It went the other way. Like they came out first drive, touchdown, second drive touchdown. Like you said, they just, I don't think they punted until the third quarter.

Just, yeah, just incredible game for Danos. If you're a Washington fan, this is literally the dream. Like your team had no expectations. You got a trash defense. You got an offensive line that's kind of thrown together. And, you know, we love McLaurin. We love Robinson. But it's like, okay, there's some pretty good weapons here.

But, you know, what's the best chances? They're going to be maybe the third or second seat in this division, NFC. East. I mean, it's not crazy to think. If this kid doesn't get hurt and they keep on improving week in and week out, they could easily be fighting for this division. of the year like the Eagles Dallas they're not bulletproof these teams do have issues so it's like yeah if i was a was a washington fan i think them and the vikings have to be the two highest fan bases right now like this is oh yeah feel so amazing for both these guys so um yeah the daniels thing you

nailed it's like i'm gonna make adjustment to it i'm not gonna overreact too much to it but it's definitely that there he's in a spot now where it's like okay this this kid is for real Like he's not he's not just gonna keep beating up on bad defense. He's literally taking what the defenses are giving them. And he's being accurate. And like that's the hardest thing as a rookie is being consistently accurate. And that's what he's doing. So me and you have the same view of it.

That kid is one dumb run away from taking one bad hit and it all being over. But through four weeks, he's surviving all these hits. So it's like, okay, this kid in his college career survived all these hits. He's doing it again in the pros. Maybe he's just built different. And that's just the way it is. So, yeah, really exciting times right now in D.C. It's a throwback, but I keep thinking about RG3 when I watch him.

You know, very similar circumstances, right? Andrew Luck, RG3, Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, RG3 was amazing. His rookie year, gets that team to the playoffs, injures his knee because he's so mobile and thinks he can always get out of trouble, injured his knee, I think, in a play in the pocket. that's what I worry about with Jane Daniels. Like some fluky thing because of his mobility and his belief in himself to get himself out of trouble ends up playing him into trouble because we've seen it. We saw with Andy & Richardson, like these quarterbacks who are super mobile and can get

themselves out of trouble will sometimes run themselves into trouble. And he's a hip pointer away, right? It's just that's what you worry about. Yeah, but like I was saying that they've been smart with it where they were, The only time he's taking dumb hits is when he does scramble plays, right? When he just tries to take guys on, when they've been designing a lot of his runs,

they design it were a lot where he's either going outside or he's just falling forward. He's never really taking these direct shots. He's, I mean, they've been telling him too, and he just talks about it, lately every game, he's just like, I know I need to get down,

and I take the unnecessary hits. And this game was a perfect example. He had two different times where he could have taken a hit. And it's good to know in his own mind, he was like, I'm up 10 points right now. I don't need to run through this guy. I can get it on the next down. So yeah, it's like CJ from last year.

Like these guys came in and you just can see it right away where it's like, okay, dude's probably gonna have a five to 10 year NFL career just on base up we've seen through a couple games here. I felt the same way about CJ. So yeah, what can you say? I can't say anymore. That was a terrible read.

Just I can't believe this rookie just put up 45 on the road. And just back to back weeks of just an incredible offensive display by Washington. Better naturally calm and comfortable. Matt Mitchell, I know you're listening to the show right now as the producer. Do not hate me, but we are headed for a conversation about Cliff Kingsbury as a head coaching candidate. If this Washington team wins the division and Jaden Daniels wins offensive rookie of the year, working this good.

You could hear like the announcers start to talk about Cliff Kingsbury. I feel so bad for Chicago because right when you're saying this, it's popping in my my head, it's like, oh my God, him in Chicago. Oh, my, it's like, train wreck. Right. Like, they were starting to talk about, here's what Cliff Kingsbury learned from his time with the Cardinals, and this is what he would do different if he was a head coach again, and this is why he's running the offense this way, and using more run and playing, using different

blocking schemes and not going far wide. And I'm like, oh, my God, he's going to be a head coach. Kansas City at Los Angeles Chargers. Simon, for the fourth week in a row, we have. one, our Tommy John Big Ball, Bed of the Week. Is it because Tommy John underwear makes us so comfortable? Is it because Tommy John underwear keeps us from sweating? Is it because every time we're wearing Tommy John, we are so confident we can make the most

outrageous bets we want to make and feel great that we're going to win? It's entirely possible because the Los Angeles Chargers were seven and a half point underdogs. They were our big balls, bed of the week. There was never a moment in this game where I was sweating. And I remember, you and I, we were discussing this game on Thursday, and I really wanted to play this game. We were worried about all the injuries. And I wanted this rant about John Harbaugh. Like, his gift is telling his team they are going to be physical football players,

and they are going to will themselves into being competitive because he is speaking. their most native language. He is saying we are football players, we are going to beat up the people on the other side of the ball, and that is how we are going to stay in a game. And then on Thursday or Friday, I was going to send this to our Slackchain, our favorite slack chain. There was a story in the Wall Street Journal about Jim Harbaugh throughout his career looking for fullbacks from defensive linemen.

and he did it at Stanford, he did it at Michigan, he did it in San Francisco, and he's done it now with a guy in the Chargers, and that speaks to his mentality and why these games are close, and it's why we didn't care, no Rishan Slater, no Joe Alt, no Bosa, we're playing this game, played exactly the type. Yeah, and also I think I played to the number, which is what you basically were just like, we have to take this because of the number. I think we both agreed where it's like, okay, if Herbert was. towards playing, we might get a free point here.

And this might drop to six and a half, which it did before kickoff. The number lands right on seven. Pretty tough beat if you have the six and a half where, you know, like you just said, it felt like the Chargers dominated that entire game. A couple of weird plays, not kicking field goals, had a missed field goal.

I can't believe if anyone had the six and a half you didn't cover, just a brutal no cover on that. But yeah, we loved it at seven and a half. You could have got at eight and a half of different points during the week. I told you, the drop off in my model from going from Herbert to Heineke was staggering. And it was like, it had to be Herbert.

If it wasn't, I mean you were going to, even though we had a good number on Tampa, I was going to make us throw it out. Because I like, I like Tampa anyway, a plus one. But it was like, I'm not taking Heineke. I just couldn't do it. And so I'm so glad we got word earlier this morning. It was going to be Herbert.

And you saw in that first half, right, he did a couple of throws before you got hit where it's like, that's why I love this guy in this horrible offense where he's not doing too much. He's taking the simple read. Then we saw, you know, Herbert, not that it's old Herbert, but it's like once you start getting pressure on him, get him a little uncomfortable and he gets flustered, we've seen it time and time again now.

He just, the game doesn't really work out for him. So if you're a Chargers fan, I'd be pretty pissed off. Like, that was a game. I felt like they should have won. They played better than the Chiefs that whole game. But, yeah, the Mahomes magic. I just, I really thought this. same thing where I was like, damn, I feel like an idiot telling Chad not to put this Chargers

money liner around Robin. No, it's Mahomes. He was eventually going to win that game. It's just what he does. And that's why I never take the money line of the Chargers against Mahomes. He just historically always beats them. The Raiders is different. We do bet their money line against Mahomes, but not the Chargers. So yeah, great read. Taking that one and the Bears. Yeah, great week for Chad. Great week for Chad. Chad's feeling great about himself this week. Locked up. Kansas City, by the way, from Evan Abrams. One, breaking news.

Andy Reid saying that Rishi Rice has a torn, or not Andy Reid, Adam Schaefter reporting that Rishie Rice has a, it's feared he has a torn ACL. He saw the play. It was devastating. Then if you saw that poor kid being carted off and just how devastating it was and how sad he looked. Mahomes is now 18 and 1 straight up in road neutral division games. The only game he lost was to Russ and Denver last year. Kansas City is now, what is that?

16 and 12 straight up in games. They trailed by 10 points at any point since 2019. The next highest win percentage by any team in that window is the Eagles at 28%. I mean, come on. That's how good Patrick Mahomes is. It's ridiculous. That's crazy. I don't know why.

I thought Mahomes lost to the Raiders in Las Vegas on Christmas last year, but that must have been in Kansas City, which is even more insane. He's insane. Yeah. But we did the right thing. I feel terrible for Herbert.

Like, he was a sitting duck in that game. It was almost unconscionable that they had him keep playing because he could not move. and if he didn't get the first read. He played well for not being on a move. If it wasn't the first read, he couldn't do anything, right? And so that was too bad. But look, good week for us.

Really excited. Creeping back into respectability in the contest. As you told me this morning, it's a long season. So we're just going to keep grinding. That's what I felt bad. I get why you stress and worry. Not that you're Joe public,

but like me, I just, it sucks i want to win here but it's like dude it's such a long season it's like you really can't stress about wins and loss even this week we just won i feel the same as i did last week where it's like all right on the next week already look at the lines for next week it's i i actually always want to win but it's just we're in grind mode here so um you know we got to get out of this pit we dug ourselves into so once we get out of this little hole i'll be happy but yeah that's that's the goal right now is to get above 500 I don't get down about one week.

I get down about multiple weeks. That's when I'm like, oh my God, I can't believe we got to do this again. Yeah, go listen to the week one tape. You know? You get down every one week. It's okay. We're holding against you. I mean, I get it.

No one wants to fucking lose. Me and you were very competitive. So I'm right there with you. It's just there's sometimes you come on here. I'm just like, God damn it, Chad. God damn it. I'm keeping it together today. I'm not going over the top happy today.

I'm acting like I've been here before. Okay. You don't think so? You think I'm being too abode? I want you to be happy. Literally your favorite team just won. Your rookie QB is healthy and you just said you're perfect in the app right now. You didn't lose a bet today.

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Tampa Bay plus two and a half. I want them as a short division fave, a short division dog. We have that stat about division favorites. Yeah. Not doing well, 45% against the spread, short home favorites since 2016. You want to take Atlanta here. Of course I don't. But God damn it, Chad.

Yeah, I got no read on that one. We don't have to play it. Carolina plus five against the Bears. Gotta. Got it. Got it. It's like that's a no-brainer. Bet it right now.

We have to. I think any time we're getting over three with a, you know, nothing against Caleb Williams, but just he has to earn a higher number from you. So, yeah, if you can get a plus five right now on Carolina, I'd grab it right now. I got Indy Plus 3 only because it's a short home dog, I mean, a short road dog in the division against Jacksonville.

I think Jacksonville, like, we both liked Jacksonville this week. We didn't put him in the contest. But I do think this team is in trouble. and figuring out who they are and probably losing confidence because they can't seem to win even when they have the game at hand. What worries me is we don't know

who's playing quarterback for the Colts right now. Even if it's Joe Flacco, I don't mind taking the plus three, but it's like, yeah, this is probably really chalky and this might be a spot we buy out of as the week goes along here. Yeah. If it's Joe Flacco, I don't mind taking it.

All right. Okay. Green Bay was at three when we started the show on the road at LA, now three and a half. Yeah, right away, I was like, you've got to take Green Bay there. It sucks us up to three and a half. I'd still take that. Yeah. The fear was Jordan Love wouldn't look right.

And I wish I listened to us on Thursday because we kind of nailed it, right? He just came out and not looking right. You took him a while to get comfortable, kind of get his legs underneath him. And then he was amazing. Yeah, this is like the perfect matchup for this team. You know, this Rams team, I don't know when they're going to trade Stafford, but that has to be the move. It's just they don't have any, they don't have any pieces. It's just they're so dependent right now on Williams in that run game because it's like Stafford's having to force the ball in on first, second year players who aren't that good.

It's just all bad for the ramp. So I'm with you on that green bag, grab it right now, minus three and minus three and a half. This one is a little different. Dallas plus two at Pittsburgh. I hate it. I know. I just think, I just like Pittsburgh,

but I get where you're doing with this. It's like this is usually where we fade the Steelers, but defensively, this is a great matchup for them, being able to attack. Like, they have two rookie tackles. Like,

this is what you dream about when you're talking about Pittsburgh and T.J. Watt and Cam Hayward. And on the flip side, Pittsburgh wants to run. the read option like you saw it today they came back because they wore out that cold steam yeah same could be set for this dallas team so um i'll grab there's one and a halfs up there i'll grab that on pittsburgh but i get where you're coming from here at dallas because it feels like a nice spot

to buy a low on them because you know they're going to have extended rest as well um i'm just i'm just trying to think matchup wise i know i'm gonna favor this pittsburgh team but um yeah this is this a tough line. What did I miss? What do you got? So once I jumped right out to me right away, you can get Vegas right now as a plus two dog to Denver.

I'm excited for Bo Nix. Back to back, road wins. Coming home now. I mean, come on. Don't we have to take the Raiders here? You have to take the road dog under a field goal in the division.

And I agree. Like, especially in this number in this spot where it's like, one jumped out to me it's like okay I talk all the time how I think two no two is such a key number it could go up to it go up to two and a half go up to three like I don't know if the pros will be on this one but for me right now that's a game I'm gonna grab right away the fissious line I saw on the board which again I was I thought you were gonna bring this game up you can get the bills right now

minus two against Houston Houston just barely beat the Jaguars I get to me Houston is not looked right so that That's a game, I'm gonna throw a little on it just in case the bills just absolutely roll the Ravens. Even though we were both on the Ravens, this is just kind of a hedge bet. And then the stinkiest line of the week, Washington's minus three and a half against Cleveland.

So we have an offense that can't punt, all they do is score. And on the flip side, we have an offense that if they don't have a 90-yard touchdown pass to Amari Cooper, it's painful to watch Cleveland try to drive the field. They're so bad, so inconsistent. I do not understand that.

line it on. I haven't bet this commander's line, but like right when we were talking about the lines, that one jumped out. In the last game, which I thought you were going to bring up, Bengals right now are plus one at home against the Ravens. Yeah. Well, two things. The Washington game, and we were watching when we were watching the Washington game today, in my head, I was thinking, are they, are they peaking even more? Is it going to be time to sell them next week? I wanted to I thought this was going to be like six or seven. It's three and a half. It's crazy.

Right. So something to me that feels fishy. Like what am I missing? Fishy. The line is not bigger, right? No, that makes me want to take the Browns. That's what I'm saying.

That's why. That's what I'm saying, same thing with this bangles here. It's like, why would we not take the Ravens? The Bengals suck. Like, their defense is atrocious.

And, you know, there was a couple of miracle plays today by Joe Burrow and Chase and it's like how consistent is this team gonna be and we all thought you know the bangles eventually get a finally get their win with they're now one and three but um yeah I was I was gonna want to take the Ravens in this spot now I'm just like okay apparently this is a good number to take the bangles even in the action app I know this is obviously insanely early early but it's like 90% of the bets and all the money right now is on the Ravens so yeah

it's a good spot to take the bangles it feels that way so let's see what happens tonight I'm not going to bet it yet because if the Ravens, they roll this Bill's team, let us get a plus three on the Bengals. Then we're really cooking. So yeah, those are just early lines that jumped out to me, Chad, where, you know, if me and you were making like, got to bet it right now, I thought you nailed it right away with the Panthers, but the other one for me is just that Vegas bet. I really like that number. Panthers plus five, Vegas plus two, those are the games that we probably bet right away. A little taste on Green Bay minus three and a half. The rest, we're going to wait and see how things go.

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