The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Favorites - NFL Betting Recap Week 6

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

After a number of wild Sunday afternoon NFL finishes, Action Network NFL betting experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter discuss horrendous kickers, a strange Texans win, a deflating Rams loss and so mu...ch more. Together they recap all their picks, good and bad, and take accountability once again before Sunday Night Football kicks off in Steel City between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Dallas Cowboys. Plus, we get their early looks at NFL Week 6.  And for new listeners, The Favorites $100K Pro Football Pick 'Em Contest is underway! Presented by bet365, this totally free-to-play contest has over $100,000 in cash prizes up for grabs to our listeners this NFL season. Just visit  Favorites.ActionNetwork.com to sign up for free and make your picks today. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:24 Call 1,800 gambler, or 1,800 bets off in Iowa. Terms, conditions, restrictions, apply. All right. So a couple things, trends we were paying attention to. The public had been having a terrible year. And then today, the public was on Houston, the public one. The public was on Detroit. The public one.
Starting point is 00:05:49 The public was on, who am I missing? Tampa Bay. The public one. That's number one. Number two, we've been tracking the NFL underdogs of six plus points or more. They had been 16, 2, and 1 against the spread this season. After today, that is no longer the case.
Starting point is 00:06:12 The Panthers did not cover as six plus point favorites. The commanders pushed as six plus point underdogs. I mean, the Panthers were dogs too. The Brown's covered. So not a great day. If you were a six plus point dog, it's in line with the chalk. of the day. We're going to run through these games.
Starting point is 00:06:34 First one up, Arizona, Green Bay. We had Green Bay five and a half. Loved it all week. I really loved it all week. I believe you came around in my thinking. I might have bullied you into it. And it went exactly as we expected, Simon. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah, Calder didn't show up. And that was really our preference about the whole reason for Ben. It was like, we haven't seen it put back-to-back really competitive road starts in his career that are against really competitive good teams. And, you know, that was a huge win. They pulled off against 49ers, but, I mean, you talked about it.
Starting point is 00:07:12 It was a little, I don't know if they really won that game so much as the 49ers might have lost that game. Yes. And, you know, we were five minutes into this Green Bay game and Kyler couldn't get anything going. They punted back to Green Bay, and they're already up 7-0. They come right down.
Starting point is 00:07:29 score another 14 and then off off from there. It was just a bad game all together from the Cardinals team. I think Marvin Harris went out in the first quarter after a hit. Yeah, he had a concussion. Oh, okay. So, yeah, I didn't know that was injury. So yeah, it just batt all around for them. On the flip side, you know, Jordan Love,
Starting point is 00:07:49 it took him a little bit to get going, but he looked really good in that game. Like a couple big-time throws, really nice reads, using his odds and move the safeties around to get his receivers open deep. And like, you know, once the floor gets a team on their heels, you know, he just schemes it up so well. So, yeah, all the round, that was a fun game.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Like, we talk all the time. It's fun sometimes to bet on the chalk. That was fun. Our fear was, you know, you bet four and a half. I bet a lot of money at five. It got up to five and a half in our contest. And it was just like, okay, is this going to come down and matter this half a point? Clearly, we overreacted to that half point.
Starting point is 00:08:26 It did not matter at all. Really happy we didn't take it out or even think about taking that. It's just a week where, unfortunately, we didn't take all favorites, but we talked about how we got a force in some of these favorites, and luckily we did with this Green Bay team. Yeah, the public was 8.3 and 1 today. This was the last one in, to be honest. And we love this game because we believed Jordan Love and the Packers were undervalued
Starting point is 00:08:54 after losing of the Vikings and then playing badly against the Rams. on the road. We thought now three weeks return from his injury, playing at home against a soft defense, he would just be the better quarterback leading the better team. And he was, right? Like, this offense gained 437 yards. It ran 70 plays. It had more than six yards per play. Jordan Love threw for nearly 260 and had four touchdowns. And the Cardinals did what we thought they would do. They just made a lot of mistakes. Three, five. Bumbles lost, we should explain, we had a conversation this morning and we nearly pulled the Packers out.
Starting point is 00:09:39 It's fair to say the Packers were our last team in. Explain from your point of view why we nearly pulled the Packers out and also tell people who we almost put in. It was bad weather, honestly. I mean, I liked the under there and it was 47. and a half got really lucky landed right on 47 they only scored three points in the fourth quarter and that's just classic bet the number bet the spot and yeah that that was that was the main concern was the weather honestly in my opinion it was just we know how random weather can make these
Starting point is 00:10:14 football games and we saw with arizona right with all those stupid fumbles that's the scary part with bad weather it's just you don't know which team's going to react better to it shocking to no one the indoor team did not react well to it right and clearly green bay they're used to playing in 40 degrees shitty weather. So the team we thought about putting with the Raiders and you know, it was honestly though between them and the Chargers and you know, your love for the Raiders was just a good sales
Starting point is 00:10:42 by Sean Kerner. I think he got you with a good sales pitch. You fell in love with it and I was just like, I can't do it. Even though it was a great number, it was Aiden O'Connell. I just couldn't get there with the kid and I was just like, it's still, it's something's throwing me off
Starting point is 00:10:56 because they're playing against Pittsburgh So like you just said, thank God we didn't do it because it would be a brutal sin here on one in three, knowing we switched out of Green Bay team to end up not even being a sweat. We're going to talk about the chargers after we get through our games. Houston at New England, if the Packers went exactly as we expected, this one didn't go anywhere near the way we expected. New England was kind of never in this game, except they were tens of. mentalizing close to putting themselves in the game.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And I want to give you some scenarios just from the second half, the very start of the second half. They're down 14-7 to start the second half. They get the ball. Actually, let me take it back further. Early in the game, they had been stopping the Texans in the red zone, twice on third down and both times they got called for pass interference penalties
Starting point is 00:12:03 and the Texans score on the very next play. So all of a sudden they're up 14-0. They got lucky with a Kaimi Fairbairn missed field goal. So now... That felt like to me that was the game. Those two third down calls like both times too, the defense outplayed the offense
Starting point is 00:12:22 and got off the field. But those calls flipped it. Like you just said, gave them 14 points, but it should have been six. And like you said, once you're up 14 on Drake May, who now has to push the ball downfield, you're dead. Like you said, that's, if we would have saw the game
Starting point is 00:12:38 going that way in any way, we wouldn't have taken it. I put it on me because my whole problem with that game was it was his first star Drake May, Chad. I said that to you, it's like, we are backing this kid in his first start and we've seen how much better these other rookies have played after their first start. It's just that first start is such a brutal game.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Even when we talk a little bit about the Saints. I told you I couldn't do it, just got already had money on Tampa, and I didn't want to be betting again on a rookie making his first start. Looked like the same with Drake May. He had a couple of really good plays,
Starting point is 00:13:05 but overall, he's on a really bad team. It doesn't matter if he's making a couple of plays here and there. It's like they need the balances to go their way and the referees calls to go their way and we didn't get any of that. And then the nail in the coffin was Joan Mixing. Like we talked, that's what we were hoping for last week him to be back with the bills.
Starting point is 00:13:24 You saw today, they're just a totally different when he's on the field. He's that good for them and he's that big of a difference maker in their run blocking scheme where he just knows how to be patient, pick his holes and when he hits it, he hits it so hard. He's just so much better than the other guys they've been running back there. Like you immediately saw a difference once he was in the field.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So that's definitely, as much as I want to be like, this was your whatever, a scuttrellette pick. You love them. I love them too. We talked last Sunday. I bet him when they were plus seven. I thought it was a good number. Bad read, just a bad read overall being Drake May's first start.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I should have put more stock in a Joe Mixing coming back for this one. Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like we completely screwed this one up because we had the chance this morning. Like we were going through the games and we were really focused on Green Bay and Detroit. And at one point I said, are we sure we don't want to take out the Patriots, the Panthers, or the Jets? and we sort of felt like we liked all those games and we liked the spots for those teams. And here we sit.
Starting point is 00:14:34 The favorites were the ones that were easy. And the dogs are the ones that lost the way they always lose. The Patriots had, they were down 14-7, got the opening kick in the second half. Drake May fumbles deep in his territory. Texans scored a touchdown. on. Patriot is down 24-7. They fumble on the first drive after going down 24-7 in their own territory leads to a field goal. They're down 27-14 after they go down 27-14, first play the next drive, throw a pick at their own 22. Like, every time they came close to getting it in, they lost the way
Starting point is 00:15:15 these teams lose, which is what you get when you're betting on these teams. But it occurs to me, and I will put this note down. We didn't, like, we both love the Texans with Joe Mixing. It's been a reason why we felt they haven't been playing as well. And one of the reasons why we faded them. Why didn't either of us think to say, wait a second, he's back. We knew he was back at this point. He had been announced he was going to play.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Why didn't we even mention that? I mean, obvious answer is I had a decent amount of money. I already bet on it. the luck rankings loved it, which I put a lot of stake into. There's trends I pointed to taking this number. So if you would have just going back at time, be like, well, Joe Mixing is back this week. I would have said, you fucking cares.
Starting point is 00:16:02 It's his first game back. Clearly would not have known he was going to come in and just wipe the floor with us. So yeah, you're right. It's like, I wish I could have thought about back. But again, it's not just, you know, just the fading of the public for what we do sometimes. There's trends. There's what we're hearing the professionals are doing. And like we always say, if the luck rankings love a spot,
Starting point is 00:16:25 it's always going to tilt us towards it. And I think you picked it for your best bet on convince me this morning, didn't you? I went with the Patriots. There's no way to avoid it. We were dead. It's just picking bad teams. You get caught every now and then. It was a dead bet.
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Starting point is 00:21:23 A great bet. Detroit at Dallas, we had Detroit minus three and a half. We handicapped this one perfectly. Yeah. Our analysis was, this team is on the rise. They are still undervalued. The Cowboys are getting more credit than they deserve for beating a bad Steelers team that could not take advantage of offensively of, of, Dallas miscues, we believe the lions would be physically dominant and they were in every
Starting point is 00:21:53 aspect. To your credit, to your credit, when we were discussing the lines this morning, I was so nervous about it being chalky. I did ask if we should take the lions out because it was so public and we had a bad line. And we had been hearing noise all week about people liking the cowboys, about professionals liking the cowboys. And what you said to me was, chalk is due. Thank God. You were right. Chalk is 8 3 and 1 today,
Starting point is 00:22:25 heading into the Sunday football game. We need the Giants. We're going against the chalk tonight. We're going against the chalk tomorrow. But it was true today. The lions were 100% the right side
Starting point is 00:22:39 from the get-go. They were never nervous in this game. I also never wavered on it. I mean, I loved it. I think we talked Sunday. about it. I bet it early just in case. I said in case Dallas got blown out Sunday night. They didn't. We came in Tuesday show. You believe made of your exact decision. And I said you if you hadn't, I was going to make it to Simon says. And then on Thursday show, I literally
Starting point is 00:23:05 made it my Screech for Lead Pick. You totally fucked me on that. Totally. You totally stole it from me because you had first choice. And like, I'm like, you fucker. But that's my whole point. of like there was never a minute all week where I wasn't heavy betting this Detroit team like I bet them all along and the scariest part was why was the number not moving and I tell you the time sometimes the books know they're fucked and they know if they move it too much they'll get even more money on the other side because then people would be like see the professionals moved it that is the right side now let's keep going heavier on Detroit but even then you know it was just a bad number. I talked to bookmakers
Starting point is 00:23:47 Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, all them were saying it was like 10 times the amount of money was on the lines, on the spread, on all their parlays, everything. And I was just like, man, you guys are really taking a stand here on a bad Dallas team. I just did not understand it.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Yeah, thank God. We hammered that one. We needed it to go two and two. And like we always say, when you bet on these good quarterbacks, sometimes it's the best feel in the world, because it's like, man, that was a no doubter. They were just imposing their will the entire game.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I think even the first drive, Dallas went down and kicked a fuel goal. And I just remember thinking, if Detroit goes down and scores a touchdown, me and chat are good here. Not even that. They just literally ran it down their throat, that first drive. And it's like, okay. Montgomery's humming. Once he gets going, you know they're going to get it going through the air.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And that's what happened. I mean, they almost put up 50 points once again. So, yeah, what we talked about with Dallas. They're coming into this year. They're not that good of a team. Can't run the ball, can't stop the run. Detroit, we talked about them being my number one seed in the NFC. Every week, they just keep proving they're the best team right now.
Starting point is 00:24:58 It's just when that offense is humming, I don't care what defense in the league can't stop them when it's indoors. So they're the team. Yeah, they're the team. If they get that one seed, it's going to be crazy important. But I really can't wait to talk next week's games because it's like your division right now, every divisional game is going to be amazing. Like all the teams in the NFC North are so good. I really can't wait to start getting these divisional matchups.
Starting point is 00:25:22 So look, the NFC North right now is 18 and 4 against bread. Entering Week 7. Wow. It's the best ATS win percentage for any division through six weeks in the wildcard era. That's going back. That's with a rookie, Sam Darnold, and second year starter, Jordan Love. That's pretty impressive. And by the way, Jordan Love who missed multiple games.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Yeah. Right? And so, like, the Vikings are 5 in OATS. The Bears are 5 in 1 ATS. That's crazy. Lions are 4 in 1, Packers are 4 and 2. Caleb Williams, we're not going to spend too much time on it. But like, do your thing.
Starting point is 00:26:02 The guy accounted for five touchdowns today. Like, he was freaking flawless. Four touchdown passes. A touchdown run. He's scrambling strategically on a beautiful. beautifully designed play where it was like reverse. He had to fake a reverse, fake a screen, hit Colquette, streaking down the middle.
Starting point is 00:26:23 The footwork was beautiful. The way he handled the fakes was perfect. I mean, this team was insanely good. Now, admittedly, they played bad teams, but you've got to beat bad teams, and they're looking really good doing it right now, especially today. Here's the story out of this game.
Starting point is 00:26:43 as much as it was about how terrible the Cowboys are and the Lions dominating unoffensively. Aidan Hutchinson was the leading candidate for defensive player of the year. He was leading the league in Sacks. He was a guy we both bet at 14 to 1 to lead the league in Sacks. This team has finally figured it out what their identity is as a physically dominant team dynamic athletically on both sides of the ball. He represents so much of who they are. He went out with a gruesome. leg injury had to be cut it off. He knew it immediately on his second sack of the game.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I don't know what happens now. Like I, how do you as a professional better handicap this? Because it does change their dynamic defensively. It does. No, it's brutal. I mean, it's, it's hard to put what it's going to mean to the model. I mean, maybe half a point, but I doubt that I don't move it that much, honestly. But we'll see. It could. But I would say for any, fan it just makes you not think no i shouldn't say it makes you think that maybe this team come playoff time won't go to the super bowl like a lot of people are picking them for right because you know there's any moments where you need that guy and we see it like nick bosa in that seahawks game he took
Starting point is 00:27:59 over right once the team had to pass the ball that's when these guys who are just such game changers take over and how do you not suffer when you lose a top five pass rusher it's like these guys are so rare, so unique. That's why they make so much money. You just can't replace something like that. So for me, I don't know. I probably doesn't do anything for me divisional wise. I'm just going to let my lines bet keep riding for right now. But how does it not make you nervous knowing that in the playoffs, it's going to matter. Like him not being there is going to matter in these really close games where every little snap is the difference. And he is the ultimate game changer for that defense in Detroit. So yeah, brutal for Detroit fans, big loss. Reddick is out there.
Starting point is 00:28:42 and dropped by his agency has lost about $20 million away. I mean, Tray Don Walker. I don't know I'm making a big story about it, but what happened to him in Japan? The man went to Japan, skipped camp, and has not been the same since. Like, that's a whole other story. Bizarre. It's totally bizarre. The fact he was shuttled out of Philly is kind of bizarre, considering how well he was playing.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Well, he wanted new money and how he was just like, okay, get him out of here before this comes into a problem. I never thought it would be like this, though. He's a good dude. What I was going to say is that Trayvon Walker, who was the number one overall pick of the Jags, taken instead of Aidan Hutchinson, there was a mention in a story this past week
Starting point is 00:29:26 that could the Lions trade for him as sort of the complimentary rusher if the Jags continue to fall out of contention? So who knows what the Lions are going to do? But certainly it's something that's going to be a conversation because this is a team. Like, going into this week, I felt like they were the number one team in the NFC. Like what they had done against Seattle and what I expected them to do against the Cowboys,
Starting point is 00:29:51 most complete team changes a little bit. So we've talked about it a little bit, so we don't have to spend too much time on it. But the conversation we had this morning, like, we weren't loving the lines we were getting. They were about half point worse than the market. Ultimately, it didn't matter. You know, we nearly put the Raiders in and kicked out the Packers. we decided we were overthinking it. The one game we screwed up, I think, was the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Like, it's similar to the Cardinals last week. We had the best number of any game. That was two and a half. We had great analysis on this team all week. We loved it. Do you think we passed because this was a game where, while we loved it, we were hearing whispers from professionals that they liked the Broncos. Like, why did we end up walking away from this one?
Starting point is 00:30:38 It could be. You're right, though. We definitely did talk about it. I mean, we both betted. We thought, you know, this was a funky number all week. It was very telling by the sports books that this number was off and favoring this Vegas, I mean, this Chargers team where us and the general public were like, well, this Broncos defense is playing really good. And Bo Nix has been playing well enough, not turn the ball over and keeping them in games. And, you know, the last time we saw this Chargers team, they were all banged up and all out of sorts.
Starting point is 00:31:08 and especially Herbert. I mean, talk about night and day, right? That was a great Herbert game. Yeah. Complete control of the whole game. You know Cowherd, I know Cowherd's crazy theory about just taking the better QB. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I hate that theory, but today he's a genius. Basically every game, the better quarterback. Totally. Yeah. That's totally true. A good day for Cowherd and his betting, but like he was right talking about this game with that where it's like,
Starting point is 00:31:36 one side has the better quarterback and right now the best weapon right is their offensive line like when those guys are all healthy up front they completely neutralize the front seven of Denver which is what's been Denver strength and you know Patrick Sartan I believe went out in the second quarter I could be maybe it was a third quarter but no it was early think you would think that's not big of a difference but it is he's that dominant that shutdown of a corner that as soon as he did go out you saw every third down when Herbert needed it he had guys streaking open in the middle for you know various reasons um so yeah that that was a good number a game i wish we had put in but at the end of the day i don't know for me to convince you to put three favorites in that would have been uh that would have been
Starting point is 00:32:22 pretty tough i think same for me like for you to be like let's go three favorites this week we wouldn't have done it i know we're just not built that way unfortunately which i hate like even today again that we both had bets, liked them all week in Detroit, and just because they were so public, for a second we thought about switching them out, which is like, again, I said it to you in the moment. It was just like, we're overthinking this right now. Don't switch any of these fucking guys out. Let's just keep these five. And no matter what we would have done, I'm just so glad we didn't put that Raiders one in because that was just a bad bet, right? So the chart is one, we did read right, but it was just tough to put a third favorite in. I wish we had taken out Carolina. We had Carolina
Starting point is 00:33:03 a five and a half. Shame on us. Shame on the Panthers. The only thing I'll say is that there was a drive in the fourth quarter. Panthers now one in five against the spread this season. Yeah. This drive to start the fourth quarter epitomizes Carolina and why we didn't deserve to win. They're in the game the whole time.
Starting point is 00:33:23 They're down 2820 to start the fourth. They're playing against the worst rush defense in the league. They have Chuba Hubbard to start this quarter, runs the ball four times. for 34 yards. Run, run, run, run, run. Running all over this team. Then they decide to get cute. They have Andy Dalton rollout.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Throws an incompletion. Next play, fake run. Andy Dalton throws a pick at the Falcons 16-yard line. Next drive, the Falcons go 84 yards, score the put-away touchdown. And by the way, Algears. he was running on one of the plays,
Starting point is 00:34:07 first got gang tackled at the 22-yard line of the Falcons, didn't go down until the 36. Like, we give what we deserve. I'm ashamed. We shouldn't have done it. We were so excited. We thought, like, oh, my God, I was like,
Starting point is 00:34:23 I got the Panthers plus six and a half today. Like, fuck me. That's just ridiculous. How do we not put the Colts in? We had the Colts of plus three and we knew Joe Flacco was playing, which if we knew Joe Flacco was playing on Tuesday and we had the Colts of plus three,
Starting point is 00:34:41 we would have taken that in two seconds. Well, it was two and a half contest, but I agree. Like we talked about it on convince me. We're like, oh my God, Joe Flacco's in. He's getting two and a half against Will Levis. But, no, the Panthers, I don't want to talk about too much
Starting point is 00:34:56 because I just know our fans have already turned the show off as soon as we brought them up. I'm sorry, everyone. I promise. I don't even care if they would. win five straight in a row. We will never have them again.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Yeah. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeart radio. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,
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Starting point is 00:38:53 He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves. I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
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Starting point is 00:39:47 that we're looking at. Obviously, KC is minus one at San Francisco right now. Every part of my being wants to take San Francisco. The Chiefs and Bethri's, five or plus one. Really? So it's moved. How about that?
Starting point is 00:40:05 It's moved since I came upstairs to my very expansive third floor studio, the Tommy John studio. There you go. So, wow, that's interesting. That is so, all right, give me your hot take right now. It's not a game that, like, I was pegging. We have to bet it, but I didn't want to not talk about it. Um, I mean, we're supposed to take the Chiefs. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:33 But I don't got to read on this one. I'll let the number dictate it where it's like, if it, if it moves up to Chiefs being a bigger dog, no brainer. If the 49ers end up becoming the dog, maybe I'll end up being on the 49ers. But I just like the dog on the side. It's just in my mind, this, this number should be minus one to half chiefs. Like I think they're the better team. Right now, I think the best. values on the chief. So I'll take the one right now, but it's like, if this is one and a half,
Starting point is 00:41:02 you got to find a partner for a teaser. Teasing the chiefs up to seven and a half against his 49ers team is like a gift. We see, we talked about last week. They're just, the 49ers are not the same team without Christian McCaffrey. And it's, it's apparent that you're putting a lot under Brock Pretty shoulder. Now he's going up against the Spag's defense that, you know, they're going to turn you over if you're throwing the ball a lot. It's just only a matter of time. He'll get you eventually. So yeah, I definitely think if the chiefs keep becoming a bigger dog, this will end up being one over five.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Green Bay is a two and a half point home favorite against Houston. My immediate instinct is I like Green Bay less than a field goal. Wow. My immediate, I like Houston, so we're split. Interesting. All right, well, give me your take. My take is I think the public will think, like you and maybe I'll maybe maybe you're right this is a good time we're taking now because I do
Starting point is 00:41:59 think he'll go up a little bit that's what I think so I think maybe I'll be able to get a better number on Houston but yeah that's that's that's a fun game you know you're probably right I bet you the Packers probably is the smart side of take right now just because it is under three but I I think this is just a nice matchup for a Houston team that you know say what you want about them. When CJ's in rhythm and that defense is getting pressure from the outside, they're just really hard to beat Houston. There's a reason they have only lost one game this year.
Starting point is 00:42:34 CJ on the road, the Packers are a better team than the Patriots. Jordan loves a better quarterback than Drake May. We don't know from a defensive back point of view who's going to be back for Houston. a lot of guys missed today. It didn't matter as much against the Patriots, but Matt LaFleur is a better coach than Gerard Mayo. Like, this is a very interesting game. I think you're getting, it would be very interesting on Tuesday
Starting point is 00:43:07 when we talk to see where the money is and how the line is moved, because I think Houston's the public side here. That could be fair. I'm torn on this one. Detroit, Minnesota. We just talked about, like this division. against the spread. And you know what you have to do.
Starting point is 00:43:25 What's that? I said, you know what we have to do. Tell me. We have to fade the Vikings. They've covered every week. Yeah, Detroit's a one point underdog. I was worried you were going to say take the Vikings. Well, we're supposed to do because it's like everyone in their grandmum is going to bet the Detroit team as a dog here.
Starting point is 00:43:44 But it's like we're indoors. Everything the Vikings do well, Detroit can combat them. that with the run. Like you can't do that style of defense against a good team, a team that can run the ball. And, you know, I guess it's a letdown spot for the lines after that big win on the road and a big injury to one of their best defenders. And, yeah, Minnesota coming off a biweek here. But what a fishy number because Chad's right. Like we should want to take the Vikings. The book's telling us to take the Vikings here. But it's hard to meet a back a Vikings team that's just so inflated right now value-wise just because they've covered every fucking week it's it's mental so five and no yeah
Starting point is 00:44:28 it's crazy it really is so yeah my my gut instinct right now is i'm gonna throw a nice teaser with detroit line seven and a half and the the chiefs up to seven right now like that's just an easy bet to make tonight and you know books are going to limit to you a thousand bucks right now i'm happy to make a thousand-dollar teaser it's like that both those guys as big dogs um against these two favorites I don't know. And when we talk about this week, road teams have been doing well, even today, right?
Starting point is 00:44:56 Road teams really dominated the day. Homefield really, you know, it's, we talked about it last year. Homefield was down to two and a half too. I mean, it's right there still. So I don't know. This line feels like it's a little too much respect to this Minnesota team,
Starting point is 00:45:13 especially at minus one and a half on about 365. I do wonder if the books are positioning this as they know that the public might come in on the Vikings, not just because of how the Vikings have played. The Vot lines have to be the public side, right? I don't know, because of Aidan Hutchinson. Like, people will... You're right.
Starting point is 00:45:34 People will look at this, and I think this team is going to feel devastated. He is a very popular player, right? Like, he is a guy who people loved when he was at Michigan. They love the narrative. They love how dominant he has been. like he's in commercials. You don't get a lot of defensive ends other than guys named Watt
Starting point is 00:45:56 who are in commercials, right? So I think all that is going to have an impact on how the public looks at this team and him being gone, I think, is going to send people to Minnesota, especially with them being as good as they've been and getting so much attention. So that'll be another one.
Starting point is 00:46:15 It'll be really interesting to see how things are trending, 48 hours from now. I had one, I had two more games, kind of, but one more specifically. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:28 It's a Sunday night game. It's Tampa Bay as a four and a half point. That's Monday night. There's two Monday night games. Oh, it's two Monday nights. Tampa Bay plus four and a half at home against Baltimore. This Baltimore team is really good.
Starting point is 00:46:46 They've still got so many issues defensively. 100% in the middle of the field. Yeah, their 32-year-old coordinator is not getting the job done right now. I think they need to make a change in D.C. They cannot stop anybody. Like what Jaden Daniels was doing to them, this is someone who had the under
Starting point is 00:47:01 and feels like he got kicked in the dick because they basically had the under. It was 30-20. And Jaden Daniels threw a Hail Mary 35 yards downfield that the Ravens got called for a pass interference. they're down 10. They kick the easy field goal.
Starting point is 00:47:21 It's 30 to 23. That's where it lands. I lose the over. I lose the under. And it was only as close as it was because they couldn't stop them ever. Yeah. I mean, Baker, we're not giving them enough credit about how well he's played this year. And in that Saints game, everything was going wrong.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Mike Evans was hurt. I think he had three picks. Maybe it was only two. It felt like three. and he still found a way to win that game by double digits. Yeah. It was really impressive because they had a total meltdown. What were they up?
Starting point is 00:47:57 17, nothing. Yeah. And the Saints come all the way back. They're up 20 to 17. They were winning. Like a few times they were up. Yeah. And, you know, a guy I love today was Godwin.
Starting point is 00:48:09 He went off. I think he had 125 yards of two touchdown. That I convinced me that was your over on the prop today. Yeah, it was my biggest bet by the prop. where it's like Godwin and Mike Evans, that combo are just so dominant right now. And with Baker, you know, being in total zone, they're always going to be in these games. Like it feels like they're always going to be able to even if they're down double digits, they can find a way to get back in these games and stay scrappy.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Now we talk about their defense. I think the key to this defense is definitely them against the run. Like they can be passed on. So this is going to be another matchup of I think the team's going to try to make Lamar beat them. and, you know, Lamar, probably the MVP right now of football, he stepped up to the plate throwing this year. I mean, he has done really well passing the ball. So I would grab the four and a half.
Starting point is 00:48:58 I could see this being going down to four, three and a half by kickoff. It's just, even if the public's really heavy on this Baltimore team, I just can see the professionals coming in on this Buccaneers team, especially four and a half. That's just too many points to me. So I wouldn't grab that right now. Who am I missing? Just for games I jumped out to me that I haven't bet it or I shouldn't say I haven't
Starting point is 00:49:21 but I did bet it but it's like very small. I took the Rams five and a half against Vegas just in case it is Aden O'Connell. I can still keep going up. They just look totally hopeless and this has got to be it for this Rams team. I mean they don't get any more desperate after their bi-a-week Cooper Cup supposed to be back. We'll see if Puka's back. unlikely but you know that right there can move this point this up to a point right moving up to six and a half if both those guys are back so that's just a number i'm grabbing
Starting point is 00:49:50 early in case they are fully healthy offensively coming out of this by week and i mean a game you know that just jumps out to me just to grab it right now is that land is minus two and a half right now against seattle at home don't we have to grab that atlanta at home under under three against i always saw it at three so that's why i had a mention it. Yeah, it's two and a half right now. It's minus 120, but, like to me, that's something I'm going to bet right now
Starting point is 00:50:19 just because Seattle's defense needs to show me they can get stops. Like every game we've watched of them, when they've played offenses that are just aren't dumb, they can move the ball any way they want. And say what you want about Atlanta's defense, their offense is really good right now. Like Kirk, even if he's not even putting any pressure
Starting point is 00:50:39 on his back leg still on that Achilles, it doesn't matter. Like he's in total rhythm. He doesn't need to throw the ball all way down field. He can just keep picking you apart in between 20, 30 yards. And it's just been working with the one-two punch on the run game right now for Atlanta. So I make this number three and a half.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I'd grab it right now if you could still get the minus two and a half for Atlanta. All right. We're going to take a deeper dive at Detroit. With Detroit and Minnesota, we want to see how things play out there. Obviously, Kansas City and San Francisco, early liens on Tampa Bay, plus four and a half.
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