The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast - Last Minute NFL Draft Bets

Episode Date: April 28, 2022

With the first pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars are practically on the clock! Action Network Chief Content Officer Chad Millman returns with his closest companion Simon Hunter to d...iscuss all their last-minute bets for this Las Vegas spectacle Thursday night, along with all the intrigue and posturing that goes along with it! Together they speed through some picks and mock drafting advice, and get you ready to profit all Draft long. #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:53 Welcome to the favorites, the podcast from the volume podcast network. I am Chad Milman, Chief Content Officer of The Action Network coming to you from beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada Action Network has a big, big presence at the draft this year because the draft, the NFL draft has become a really fun betting event. I'm not going to say it's a massive betting event, but like everything else with the NFL, it does tend to dominate. And it has become a big event for fans. It's become a big event for new fans. it's become a big event for new bettors. You know, the way the league has taken the draft on the road, the past few years, they've done it in Chicago,
Starting point is 00:03:37 they've done it in Nashville. This year they're doing it in Vegas. Obviously, when you do anything in Vegas, it's going to be tied to betting. The betting markets for this year's draft have been insane. We, tonight, Wednesday night, action network, we are having a really big event, welcoming fans and other attendees to something
Starting point is 00:03:59 and we're doing a stadium swim at Circa. We're really excited about it. I'm going to be there. Chris Long is going to be there, Dan Ravel, Samantha Paviti, from the Action Network. It's going to be a blast. My co-host, my BFF,
Starting point is 00:04:12 my companion, my compadre, Simon Hunter, is not going to be here. Here's the thing, Simon. Yeah. You know, you decided not to come because you were in Vegas last week. I'm a generation older than you.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I'm tired. I'm on the back half on my life. I was in San Francisco until late Sunday night, flew back to Connecticut, was Connecticut Monday, turned around, got in a plane, came out here for the event,
Starting point is 00:04:45 late Tuesday night. That's how I roll, Simon. I look at the other way where I cost the Action Network $0 other than a paycheck. Have I charged you guys for driving up New York
Starting point is 00:04:55 doing that stupid photo shoot with you? No, Didn't expense it. I ate to charge, ate the hotel bill, because I'm a gentleman. I was in Vegas. You guys had offered a fly me to Vegas, even though I was already there and put me up in a hotel for two nights. But, yeah, at the time you weren't going. There was no Chris Long, which you have to tell Chris Long, this fun fact.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I am from the same hometown as his girlfriend. And his wife's name's last name used to be O'Malley. Nice to chill with her brother, Joe O'Malley. And it is really weird. Anytime I think back to this kid, I used to smoke. blunt with is now chilling with Chris Long all the time. It's just a really small world. Like Chris Long had him meeting his wife at college, which is a girl I went to high school with, Megano O'Malley. Well, listen, I will, I'll be sure to tell him all these things.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Joe O'Malley. That's how he would know. I really know. Joe O'Malley. Who's Joe O'Malley again? That's her brother. Her brother. Your friends with her brother, Joe O'Me. Yeah, he was like All-American in baseball. He's a legend. Got it. All right. So. But yeah, sorry, Chad. Yeah, I'm not in Vegas. I wish I was there. I mean, it would be a good time. But yeah, I literally, I went to Vegas nights game Sunday night and then flew out Monday morning. But if you are in Vegas, sorry to cut you off one more time. You have until 5 p.m. Vegas time.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So 8 p.m. Eastern to make any draft bet until all the sports books take all the lines down. It's just because Vegas is hoping the draft. So again, 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific. That's the last time you can make bets today in Las Vegas. Well, look, let's talk about it, right? Because this has been a crazy week. It's similar to what it was last year, heading into the draft. There was a lot of movement in that number three spot and lines were going crazy. All of a sudden this week, Trayvon Walker from Georgia, the defensive lineman, is projected to go number one. And Aidan Hutchinson now projected to go number two. And I know that I saw you put in the Action Network app tracking your picks. You put in. in another eight and a hundredson plus money pick to go number one. What's your thinking? What's your logic on that particularly?
Starting point is 00:07:04 And then I have a follow-up question for you. Yeah, I should have kept waiting. I thought it was just a reaction to Peter King's mock draft because, again, he puts it out either Sunday, like at like 11 p.m. or 12 p.m. Eastern or when they were, he puts it on Monday morning at like 6 a.m. And then you just saw this line split because he had Walker at number one position from, I think he might have been the second pick or third pick to be in the number one pickover Aiden Hutchinson. And you know, I'm wired, Chad. I just try to fade the media because I just
Starting point is 00:07:32 think a lot of these guys, not that they're throwing shit against the wall and open it sticks, but it's like no one really knows. And people like me who my job is to find good sources and we pay a lot of money for these moles and these sources and in these different teams. And the reason I double down on Aiden, I'm still buying, I mean, it's going to be scary when he's not the one to go. But Basically, the guy we have on the inside says the owner of the Jaguars is the one that wants to take Aiden. And the GM is the one that does not. I mean, how often have we heard of this scenario? And usually the owner wins out.
Starting point is 00:08:07 So interesting that I think people are going off all these mock drafts because all the mocks I looked at just before we hopped on here online. Again, a quick glance through a couple, I'd say, 7 to 8 big media companies. Most of the guys now have Walker at number one. Very few still have Aiden left there at number two. So it is interesting. Definitely, definitely going to be hurt to get burned on the first pick, but that's, that's how it goes. And luckily, I'm not overly invested in it.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I have been betting Aiden, but it's nothing close to what we did last with Mack Jones and that. Because that was, again, I was able to bet that for over a month beforehand. If I'm trying to get a lot of money down today, most books limit you to 300 to 500 to 500 bucks today. So it's not like you can get really big money down anyway. Yeah, it's become really interesting. The whole Aidan Hutchinson has bounced. around. We had this great tweet yesterday, a graphic that we put out where we went back to mock drafts from the summer of 21. And it was Spencer Rattler as like the shortest odds to be taken
Starting point is 00:09:10 number one overall. And then like Aidan Hutchinson has been up there three or four times as the shortest odds to be taken number one overall. And now all of a sudden we're 48 hours from the draft. And Trayvon Walker is getting all the attention. And now is minus money to go, number one, overall. That's what makes betting on the draft so interesting. That's why it's become such a big deal is because fans can engage on this entirely based on speculation and reporting and what they're seeing in MOX. And there's no analysis that can be done about what's actually like when you bet a game in the NFL, you can analyze things on the field. here there's nothing to analyze.
Starting point is 00:09:53 No, it's all here. Yeah, it's all hearsay. Yeah. I mean, one pro set of best, you said this year draft, it's like someone gave you a puzzle to do, and all the pieces are the same color.
Starting point is 00:10:03 They go put that together. That's what this draft is like. It's like, you know what the pieces, you know where they should kind of go. We have no idea what order it's going to go on because, again, we're going to talk about this upcoming episode. If one of these teams,
Starting point is 00:10:15 like if the Detroit goes crazy and takes Malik with that second pick, that would throw this whole draft. to do a tailspin because no one no one does mock that where the quarterback's going to the top five. So to me, there's a lot of open room for chaos in this draft because, again, the Walker News came out on Monday. There hasn't really been a set top five. You can go through all these people's different mocks. Everyone has a different mock. Compared to last year, sure, the Mack Jones thing was wrong, but most people had the pits going four. And, you know, they had the one and two and Zach Wilson and
Starting point is 00:10:47 Trevor Lawrence. So I love this year with the chaos. It just feels like, like there's so much unknown this year. It could be a really fun draft. It is amazing. You're not wrong. Like I'm looking at right now, I've just got CBS Sports Up and Pete Prisco, who I've known for years and I like, he's got Evan Neal, Eden Hutchinson, Kvon, Tibido, Ikem, Akw, Akwano, top four, and then Charles Cross. If you look at the guy next to him, Josh Edwards, Trayvon Walker, Hutchinson, Aquano, Tibido, Evan Neal. And then the guy next to him, Trayvon, Aiden, Kavon, Kyle Hamilton. This is Chris Trupasso. Trayvon, Aiden, Tibido, Kyle Hamilton, Evan Neal. And then another guy, Ryan Wilson, Aquamu, Hutchinson, Neil, Tibado, Ahmad Gardner. And by the way, a lot of these guys
Starting point is 00:11:46 have Kenny Pickett and Malik Willis in the top 10, both of them. It's all chaos. And that's what I mean. It's like when I saw Fandall is offering our lovely sponsor Fandall is offering draft same game parlayes, which means you can parlay this got to be a top three pick and this got to be a top 10 pick. I was like, holy crap, they're going to make so much money because people are going to be like, oh, well, look at all these moks, have these same couple of guys in this top five here. If they go to a different website, it could be completely different.
Starting point is 00:12:18 So exactly what you're just saying, Chad. It's going to be, to me, just such mayhem because some people have two quarterbacks going in the top 10. Some guys don't have quarterbacks going until pick 20. So it's like, I just don't think anyone really knows what's about to happen. And I love it. Yeah, I mean, it's full chaos, which is fantastic, is what makes the draft so much fun. It's funny that you mention the single game parlays because we talk. all the time about the difference between professional betters, sharp bettors, and novice
Starting point is 00:12:51 betters, square betters. And now with so many more states coming online, you know, net new betters for lack of a better term. The single game parlays, the first basket props, the who will score the first basket and who what the first basket will be, the no run first inning props. I know we're sort of tangenting here. Yeah. But those have become so big. Like those markets are so massive. And places like Fandu, like they're the ones setting the tone for that.
Starting point is 00:13:24 They've completely sort of unlocked something incredibly powerful. Yeah, it's going to come back around though. Like we're, again, like we talk about time. It's just the early days of the sports gambling stuff. And like, again, I'm not the biggest social media guy. But I see that there's people that this is what they do. They put these same game parlayers. They hit one once a blue moon, but they built a following that way where it's like,
Starting point is 00:13:47 oh my God, look at this guy turning a thousand bucks into a hundred thousand bucks. And it's like, yeah, there's a reason they're letting these guys do these kind of bets. It's like if I was a sports book, I will let anyone in the world do as many same game parlias as they want to do. It's just, you know the math chat. Every time you add a game to your bet, your odds decrease by a lot. It's like every time it drops a percentage, you're devaluing your own. money. So yeah, I do parles, though. Like, I'm not a robot. If I go to a sports book, I might bet, say, 30K and a handful of games, I'll do $100, $16 game parlet, $100.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Like, that's one, like, a thousandth of what I've just bet because it doesn't matter to me, lose that $100. So when people do these parlays, I'm like, yeah, if you're doing five bucks, $2, go ahead, do these crazy parlays. But once you start betting the same amount, if you're betting $100 on a straight bet and then you're betting $100 on a five team or $16,000, parlay. You are the reason Vegas is what it is. Like, you're the reason they have all the lights on. So, I try to tell people, if people don't care, like, I see it all
Starting point is 00:14:49 the time. Like, the thing I hate and I don't want to hate it, because I get it. It is entertainment. People are like, sports betting is supposed to be fun. It's entertainment. Like, no one's going to win money doing it. And it's like, that is the most untrue statement you can make. Sports betting is just discipline. So
Starting point is 00:15:04 I just don't think, like, right now the information age, it's just terrible info getting out there. Again, this is a tangent, but it's like, We're just in such an early age that I'm, again, I'm not going to call people out and do that kind of stuff because eventually the cream always rise to the top. Eventually, these people will stop following these people that are like giving out five game parlayers every day and doing crazy stuff like that where it's like, if you can be disciplined and have a method to your madness, it's a very profitable business to be a sports better. But if you're looking at, like we talk with time, if you're looking to get rich quick, this just ain't for you. It's like the stock market. No one, no one's getting rich quick.
Starting point is 00:15:38 So I try to tell people that, but people don't want to hear it. They just want to be betting their same game parlayes, which again, I do it. It just had a very small amount. There are some interesting, I don't know what markets, if these are markets that are available from a parlay point of view, three defensive linemen in the top five. Because it could be Trayvon Walker. It could be Aidan Hutchinson. It could be Kvon Tibodeau.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yep. Could also be Charles Cross. It could entirely be like an all lineman top five because it could be Evan Neil, Tibido, Aquano, Aidan Hutchinson, and Trayvon Walker. Yeah. But like, again, when I'm thinking of if you want to bet like chaos stuff, you kind of want to bet stuff at plus number. So like for me, I would do it just because if it's a plus number, that's pretty good value.
Starting point is 00:16:35 The same game parlay stuff's crazy where say I do have a big position right now on Aiden. you can do Walker being the first pick overall and take Willis to be the first quarterback taken. You can parlay that together. You can get plus 200 on that. So that's one of those where if I need to bite on my position of Aiden, I can take Aiden right now plus 300. If I want to hedge it, take plus 200 because we all think it is going to be Willis, the first quarterback with Walker being the first pick. So that's what, to me, these same game parlayers, you can use it as an advantage. You just have to be suave.
Starting point is 00:17:06 So I'm like interested in looking at that right now. Like I just put up the Fandu thing. You can pretty much do anything you can really think of. Like they have a lot of options right now with Fandle for Same Game Parley. I don't know about other websites. They don't sponsor us. But just looking at Fandall right now, they have a decent amount of options here in New Jersey. So if you're into this kind of stuff, people, again, it is fun to do.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Just please do it at a much smaller amount. Listen, you know, I love you to death. But I don't know what the fuck you just. set. Swavi? What the hell does Swavi mean? I don't even know. Like smart? You got to be smart about it. I meant like savvy. I believe I'm savvy. You meant you were like, I think you were combining like suave and savvy together. Yeah, that was a brain for it. You just, you made up a brand new word. I love that. Hey, Hoops fans. Don't just watch all the NBA playoff actions. Be a part of it with Fanduel, an official partner of the NBA.
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Starting point is 00:22:45 So I really did like him because he just, to me, the most guaranteed to be the best, you know, NFL offensive line. He's just very consistent. But, yeah, Kuanu, he's a freak and he's huge. So to me, he's got no real questions. The whole difference was he just wasn't as polished. I honestly like that value now, taking him, that would be the first lineman taken. Aquano first lineman taken.
Starting point is 00:23:09 So then it gets interesting. Aiden Hutchinson, because I want to go through, like, the offensive linemen, first lineman taken, defensive lineman, first lineman taken, quarterback taken, and then cornerback, defense. back. I would say cornerback because I think Kyle Hamilton will be the first probably defensive back taken overall. But those are four incredibly important. All right, well, let's talk about it. So we think
Starting point is 00:23:40 Aquano is going to be the first lineman taken. You're putting your money down. Aidan Hutchinson, Trayvon Walker, first defensive lineman taken. Again, I still believe in Aiden just because I just see him as a guy that could come in this year and have eight sacks and 15 tackle for losses. He just, he is what he is and he's going to keep getting better. Again, he's a bosa brother. He's just this really stud athletic guy where Walker is upside's higher because he's a freak athlete. Like he is like, again, Aden's just as much as a freak athlete.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Just this guy Walker has more room to grow. But when you throw on the college tape, again, it's like Walker was an end of first round pick coming in like just two months ago guys were mocking him like that. He had a pretty good draft combine. And I get that, but it's like, I just think it would be a bad pick for the Jaguars. There's too much risk for a pick they need to nail with Aiden. It's just a guarantee of what he's going to be. It's like, this guy's guaranteed to make five Pro Bowls in his career.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Can he be a Hall of Famer? Maybe, but I do think he's guaranteed pro bowler. Yeah, for the chaos, like you just said that the cornerback thing, to me, that's where the whole wrinkle can start beginning because there's just so much unknown right now with Houston at their pick. Like I literally saw a couple of weeks people had sauce there for the first. the first quarterback taking a third pick overall. Then you've seen him drop out.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And it's like all of a sudden it's Derek's stingerary. Am I saying that wrong? Stingley. Derek Stingley. His like Dad is one of the most famous stories in NFL history. From what year? 1970 something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I was busy. Not being existed. He's jumping up there. People love this kid at LSU. So I see him as high as number three in some knocks. I know. Oh, that's what I'm saying. It's just chaos.
Starting point is 00:25:26 That's why it's like, again, I want to come on here and tell people to bet all this crazy stuff. And it's like, we had Scott Smith on yesterday. And he had some really smart, safe bets, which I have now given out to my own people. Because I just thought it was really smart play, which was right now a lot of books have four and a half for the overunder cornerbacks. That's a great bet that over. Like, I'm looking at a bunch of different mocks right now, have three cornerbacks in the top 12, top 15 picks. That means you only need two more drafted. the next 17 picks.
Starting point is 00:25:56 It's like, that's what you're looking for. You're looking for something where there's a lot of consistency in these mock jobs. Again, I'm not telling you to fade all these mocks. I'm saying Chad just went through it. All these mocks are so different in this top 10. There's just a lot of room for variance where it's like I,
Starting point is 00:26:14 as much I would love to tell people that, yeah, there won't be a top 10 quarterback so Chad can daint on my grave and be like, I told you there wasn't going to be a top 10 quarterback. The math pours out where it's, like the Saints have two draft picks. They kind of need a quarterback. Elena has talked about pre-drafted. They won a quarterback because they don't have one right now.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And the Seahawks, I don't know what they're doing. I still think they're one of those teams waiting on Baker to get released. But the Seahawks, Drew Locke is not if they're going to be their quarterback this year. I just can't see it. So there are teams and Carolina as well. There are teams in this top 10 that need quarterbacks. It's just interesting where so many people have mocked no quarterbacks in the top 10. And you have guys that are mocking two quarterbacks in the top 10.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And so I've been betting on that where it's like Malik right now is over under. I think it's 11.5 on Fandau. I've been betting the under at a plus number for him to be in the top 10. So I like the value on those kind of bets. You mentioned the cornerbacks. Everyone's talking about Derek Stingley, Ahmad Gardner, Trent McDuffie. And then the two guys that if you're betting the over three and a half, you're kind of betting on Andrew Booth from Clemson and Kyle Gordon from Washington.
Starting point is 00:27:20 as being the guys who might sneak into the probably the last seven, eight, nine picks of the first round. But if you were to make a bet on who would be the first one taken, do you think it's stingly or do you think it's Gardner, given the way the trends have been going? I honestly, I think it's going to be so lost Gardner. I had him go into the Jets because I do have, I do have Houston having one of these offensive line and dropped them. I don't know if it's going to be Neil or Kuhnla, but again, I'm lower. That's my whole issue here. I'm lower on Walker. I had Walker in my top 10.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I didn't have him being a top three pick. So, yeah, it's, if Walker drops, there's just a lot of guys that are going to get bumped up here in the cornerbacks. One of them. I mean, I don't want to talk bad about Kyle Hamilton because he's our coworker. We love him. We love the volume network. I have to bet it's over right now. I think they haven't said it 11.5 or 10 and a half at Thandah, a handle.
Starting point is 00:28:17 safety is it is a key position for sure but we've just seen the way the NFL is it's like is it one of the top five most important positions to a team i don't know we can go through it's like quarterback offensive lineman d line why receiver i mean we've seen they begin paid the highest right behind quarterbacks this off season and it's like it's just hard for me to make a safety a top 10 pick where that's not that's not how you change your team really we know we have two few examples of a team drafted a safety and that's that changed their whole makeup. So I love Kyle.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I think he's going to be an incredible professional. I just, I can't see him going top 10. So that's one of those where I'm down on that. But again, shout out to our guy, Scott Smith. He said he loves the over one and a half safety's taking in the first round.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I think it's up to minus 300 at Fandulul. That's a lot of juice. But like he talked about, there's two different safety. There's might get in the very end of that first round. So that's pretty good value. If you think three safeties might be going on the first round, the over-under sitting at one and a half.
Starting point is 00:29:16 All right. So I want to summarize here because I do want people to be able to go listen to this and make some move since the windows are closing. Yeah. Over one and a half safety in the first round, over four and a half cornerbacks taken in the first round. Yeah. In the first mock five or six. So that's good value. And then, you know, if you can get a, there's a couple single game parlays.
Starting point is 00:29:39 What was the one you mentioned, Trayvon Walker and Malik Willis? Yeah. So Trayvon Walker to be the first pick. And then Malik Willis be the first quarterback take. I believe it last night was like plus 220. It might be down a little bit just because Walker's odds just keep going up. Like right before we hopped on, his odds have gone up even more. So again, these lines are going to be moving like crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:59 That's why I can't wait for tomorrow morning because that's when you kind of really know what the deal is. Again, there's always a curveball, but usually when you wake up and the Vegas guys have kind of done their business and they've had their runners around the country make bets for them. They usually know Thursday and morning what the real deal is. Again, we did a show last year. I had breaking news like, what was that, 11 a.m.? So yeah, yes. It's a lot of chaos draft day. And that's why, again, we just talked about the sports books in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:30:25 They're just not going to risk it. They're just taking their lines down. All right. We have done a lot of draft coverage on this podcast, a lot of draft betting coverage, because it's becoming a thing. It just is. There's too many markets to ignore. There's too much variance at the top of the draft board.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Too many people with too many opinions that people can listen to. try to make some money off of. I would say exercise caution. I would say do it for fun. Do not do it for profit. Do it to give you a little bit of a rooting interest Thursday night. I think that's all I have to say about this one, son. Well, I got to ask you before we go, what do you think about your boy, Robert Quinn might be getting traded? What do you have 18 and a half sacks last year? And you guys are trying to get a first round pick for him. That makes you feel kind of good, right? Because the bears have, what, pick 60 something right now? Yeah, I think we got to get into the first round. And I think with linemen, like, with defensive with edge rushers, it goes fast.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And I think that, you know, you can get 18 sacks and have that record breaking year. And the next year you get an eight. And we saw it with Cleo Mac, right? And so I'm glad they got rid of Cleo Mac. I'm fine if they get rid of Robert Quinn. The truth is, if we all believe that Justin Fields is a dynamic offensive presence, then we have to do everything we can to protect him and get him. weapons. And as much as we as Chicago fans love, love, love the idea that we have a dominant defense and that nothing is better than Bears defense in December, we can't waste Justin Fields. And so trade everything you can to get the assets you need on the offensive side of the ball. That's what I think. Yeah, even if it's assets for next year, just because it's your GM left you guys in such a bad hole. Like the new GM that's coming in, not that you have to do a total tear down,
Starting point is 00:32:14 but I think he is looking at where it's like, okay, Rogers just read up with Green Bay. They have a minimum another two years that would be doing Roger stuff, like still being dominant. I, when he trades, Robert, just because it's like, like you just said, next year he could not do what he did this year. Like, he might have 10 sacks, which is a great season, but selling a guy after 18 and a half sacks, that's the move when you're a team that's not really doing anything next year. So I hope what I've read is true in that they're moving to try getting the first round because, again, they're just going to be wasting years here of Justin Fields. And it's like, you can't do that when you have a rookie contract. You got three years left, right? And then you got a roll.
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