The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Another great win for the Broncos, Bo Nix is an elite QB, it's time for the Chiefs to rebuild

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Colin Cowherd gives Broncos QB Bo Nix respect for his performance against the Packers and wants to know when people will finally admit Nix is an elite QB leading the way for 12-2 Denver It's safe to say with Patrick Mahomes now out with a torn acl, it's time for a Chiefs rebuildSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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with the top players and the top teams. We're live in Chicago. It's the herd one hour from now where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. There's a lot of both. Let's start with this. There are certain teams that are good all year. But people, they don't have the right feel or the right look. They're winning a lot of close games.

I think people have finally come to terms with two teams in the NFL. The Bears and the Denver Broncos. You may want to stop doubting the... Denver Broncos. This Green Bay Defense, Elite. Jeff Halfley, defensive coordinator, Elite. And Bo Nix and Sean Payton carved up

this Green Bay defense. He's athletic. He's clever. He's deceptive. He doesn't get sacked. Sean Payton has been texting me for two years. I got myself a star. The headline here can't just be Packers, Luz, Watson, and Micah Parsons. Yeah, it's awful. Jeff Halfley in the last two years, his face, C.J. Stroud,

Goff, Hurts, Matt Stafford, Bo Nex in the last two years is the only quarterback. Green Bay's defense has faced that's thrown four touchdown passes to four different wide receivers. So too many people, I said this last week, have just sort of made up their mind on Bo Nex. I think he reminds me of a right-handed Steve Young. He is way, way more athletic than anybody gives him credit. dad was a coach never get sacked never get sacked i've said this about californs doesn't throw many picks bow nicks never get sacked and since he didn't fit in the nfl he's 22 and nine with more touchdown passes in that span than matt stafford okay and sean peyton and remember this bo necks

is in a division with great defensive coordinators like jesse minter and steve spagnola so denver was down nine in the third quarter. And they needed Bo Nix, the second year quarterback from Oregon, to be a star. And that's exactly what Bo Nix was. Three long drives. Playmaking, rolling left, rolling right, deceptive. Big time throws up the sideline. Great on fourth down. Again, eight for 12 throwing downfield. That's always been the knock. Well, I didn't throw the ball down the field. Did yesterday against arguably the best defense he's faced all year. I don't know what he needs to to impress people. I don't know what it is.

I mean, a lot of times it's first impressions and his first month in the NFL, and I know he's not the biggest guy and the biggest arm. His first month, five weeks in the NFL, little choppy, get over it. He's really, really good. Well, he wouldn't be that good

without Sean Payton. Troy Aikman wouldn't have been that good without Jimmy Johnson. Marino, maybe not that good without Don Shula. I mean, every great court, Tom Brady, why wouldn't win all those

brings without Belichick early in his career. You got to get over that. The kid is top five in wins, top six in total touchdowns, and he's third in dropbacks. They're not babysitting. This is not Big Ben early years in the NFL. Whole playbook. Motions, sets, 40 throws in a really good defensive coordinator division. So the Denver roster is excellent.

We know that. The coach is excellent. The only question has been, well, what do you do with Bo Nix? Well, you know, he has 27 touchdowns. You know who else does? Drake May. In my opinion, Drake May was talked about a week ago as the MVP candidate.

Bo Nix, you're not sure about. I don't know what I watched yesterday. It's time to be sure. Add this, exactly 50% of the wins, Denver's wins, have come on a game-winning drive from Bo Nix. So I don't know how you define that. The It quality,

he is really good when he's got to be really good. And here is Sean Payton on his young quarterback star. The thing about him is like he loves playing, you know, and so that's contagious. And that's a really good trait for a player at his position. And his teammates feel that. For Green Bay, it's just one of those years. Kraft gets hurt, Christian Watson, who's been banged up since he entered the league,

Micah Parsons, non-contact injury. Green Bay is still good, but it's hard to lose those kind of players, two-and-one afternoon, and be playing in a conference championship. There's no question. Good coach, good quarterback. But, I mean, yesterday was a game. I thought there, and I thought, you know what? This Green Bay has been in a lot of games like this, and they had a great first half.

But Denver, and they've done this, how many times they've done it this year? Eight or nine, where they just start the second half, mid-third quarter, and they take over games. Got to stop down in the Broncos. All right, well, Patrick Mahomes, torn ACL. That's horrible news. A lot of stars got hurt yesterday. But even before that, this year didn't feel right for the Chiefs. And the year didn't necessarily feel right for Patrick Mahomes.

Yesterday, Justin Herbert was clearly the best quarterback on the field. And Mahomes and Andy Reed and Chris Jones and Travis Kelsey kind of feels like they all got really old, really fast. And it's hard when you draft at the end of rounds. They'll finally, finally draft near the top of a draft. And that's a big advantage. You can move down if you want, accumulate other picks. Drafting for years and years and years and years at the bottom of rounds is really hard. You know, that's why the Rams will go out and get a Devonte Adams.

You've got to go sometimes and buy elite players because it's hard to get them in the draft. So Kansas City feels a little similar to Disney in the Marvel movies. They have had a ton of success, but they're trying to, they're struggling to develop new characters. That's the way I'd put it. They just don't have enough elite players. Don't blame the coaches. Small Hulk isn't working. quite like they thought. I mean, here's where Kansas City is as a franchise. Travis Kelsey's

eight, nine surgeries in, and he's their most productive pass catcher, and he's got one foot out the retirement door. I mean, that's where Kansas City is right now. And you start looking at the Rams roster and the Eagles roster and, you know, bounce around the league, Denver's roster. And I said this, the reason most dynasties last isn't. just because you got a great player, a great coach, and a great GM. It's because your division, Nick Saban and the SEC, nobody else could get the coach right. The minute Texas came in and Kirby Smart went to Georgia,

Nick Sabin and Bamma didn't look quite as dominant. Sean Payton in division, Justin Herbert in division, Jim Harbaugh, Jesse Minter, Boe Nix, it just feels different. I mean, Travis Kelsey's 36 years old, nine surgeries in, foot through the retirement door, and he's their most dependable guy. And I know it's hard to take away Grandpa's keys when he's the only guy in town that's got a ride, right?

Like, he's going to drive everybody around. But this is the reality of what it is. It's not pretty. And I've said this for the last three weeks. I've asked every guest, rebuild or retool. I think it's more of a rebuild. I mean, their second best player or best player is a center. They got a really good corner.

Mahalmsdown surgery. I think it's a bit of a rebool. filled. Now the good news is they're getting more draft picks up near the top of rounds. I wouldn't be surprised now if some of the older guys maybe take a seat, rest a little bit, catch their breath, if you know what I mean, wink, wink, nudge, and they keep that draft pick moving up. That's what they need. That's what it feels like. But here's the thing. It hasn't felt right. The last three seasons, they're 16th in scoring and 17th in yards per play. This has been happening for years, but the coaching was so good.

The Holmes was so special that it kind of is like, even Vegas doesn't know what to do with them. Yesterday they were a four and a half point favorite. Charges were the better team or the better quarterback. And here is Chris Jones finding out after the game they're out of the playoff race. We're all competitors here, especially me, you know, especially with so much as state. It was tough. I think the score was 13 to 13. a 13 and 10.

So still have a fighting chance. Are we out of the playoffs? We are. Okay. You kind of knew when they let Joe Tuny go, couldn't afford it, went to the Bears been great, and they had to rely on a rookie left tackle. It was going to be bumpy.

But going back to what I said about the reason, you know, like Brady dominates his division, because the jets were a circus, the bills were a circus, and the dolphins were never great. Well, Josh Allen, drives in the division, it doesn't look the same. So Mahomes this year,

0 for 3 against the Chargers in Denver. 0 for 3. It's a whole different ball game. Like I said, you get the great coat. Kirby Smart now goes to Georgia. Oh, here comes Texas. Texas A&M's got big money. It just feels LeBron dominated the east

for years because it mostly stunk out west. It doesn't quite feel the same. So I think if I was Kansas City, I'd give the old guys a day off. I try to secure that top seven, eight pick. Rebuild quickly. Right now, Kansas City at 11. Rams have the Atlanta pick.

That almost seems unfair. They're 10 with their stacked roster. But this thing is we've been kind of convincing ourselves. Even the guys in the desert Vegas have been convincing themselves. You know, they're not that far off. I think it's more of a rebuild than people think. Jay Mack, you were right on that from the very beginning. I had him as a wildcard team.

You didn't think they were a playoff team, but I thought yesterday, a great example of before the injury, Herbert was out playing Mahomes. And that's with backup left tackle. So it's just a reality. This dynasty thing is really, really hard. Yeah, they had a great run, and it's over. And I think the real question, Colin is, and I think you alluded to it. Okay, so you got a bunch of old guys.

Let's say Kelsey retires and they move off Chris Jones. What about Andy Reid? Is he sticking around for a long rebuild? because this is probably not like you said last week, hey, we got a little touch-ups here and there. They've got like half the roster probably getting turned over if you look at their salary cap, Colin. It's not pretty.

Yeah, next year, I think they have the, I think they're second most over the cap of any team. Now, you can readjust stuff. You know, you do what you can to manipulate the cap in the NFL. But this happens. And that's why it's always been a marvel that Brady and Belichick went 20 years and kept winning the division.

But a lot of that was, let's be fair. They moved Peyton Manning and the Colts out of that division, right? The Colts were, could have been in that division for years. Tom would not have dominated it to that level, and that's not a knock on him. When you have dynasties at last, remember the Seahawk dynasty felt like, oh, oh, it's going to be, well, then Harbaugh moved into the division, and all of a sudden it's like, oh, Seattle and San Francisco,

it's Ollie Frazier middle of the ring. Like, these are two heavyweights. So I just think everybody keeps saying Retool, write down their top seven players, then go right down the Rams, Eagles, Ravens, Broncos, Lions, their top seven players. You got pro bowlers at seven. Yeah, by the way, quick fix. I saw Kyle Pitts on Thursday night absolutely dominate, right? You know, he's a potential free agent, and he has not had a great run in Atlanta. Kyle Pitts taken over for Travis Kelsey. There's one, there's a freebie for your chiefs. Go get him, go get him.

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Welcome back, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, top of the hour, much like the Denver Broncos. People didn't quite know what to make of the Chicago Bears. I mean, they were winning, but close against a lot of average opponents. Well, yeah, I know Cleveland's average, but 31 to 3 off a very emotional game against Green Bay. Chicago just checks too many boxes not to be a team that couldn't possibly make the NFC championship. They're great in cold weather sort of matters in the NFL. Playoffs are in January. They constantly win the turnover battle.

Offensive coach, dynamic quarterback. They can run the ball and dominate time of possession. I don't even know how this was a touchdown pass may have been the past of the season by Caleb Williams. They're good on third down. There are certain boxes. You don't have to be great everywhere to make a conference championship. You can't be terrible anywhere. And they're not.

They're not terrible anywhere. That turnover battle, that ability to run the ball and play keep away from other quarterbacks like a Matt Stafford and he sits on the bench and watches it. This is not a mirage. It took a while like it did with Denver, but these two quarterbacks, Bo Nick and Caleb Williams, and I've been comparing them for about a month now. You see a lot of the same stuff. Big time playmaking, excellent in key spots. This is the first time since 1977.

First time since 1977. The Bears have had a top five offense. That was the longest streak in the NFL. And I said about a year ago, I don't mind celebrating the 85 Bears. stop replicating it. Modernize, step up, be current, and they are. Yesterday was an easy chance to take your foot off the gas. Big favorite, lousy Browns at home, really cold.

Instead, they were efficient and balanced. No turnovers, three out of four in the red zone. And I think it's really hard. I've said this. Ben Johnson is the best first-time head coaching hire since Sean McVeigh. I was in L.A. when McVeigh got hired, the Bears last year were a wreck, the Rams with Jeff Fisher were a mess. And this guy just, it's very difficult to develop a young quarterback and simultaneously win

games. And that's what they're doing. And we've seen it. They were bad operationally about 12 weeks ago. I mean, they've cut down on that, not a lot of penalties, balance, no turnovers, win the turnover battle. and this is a city that loves its defense, like Pittsburgh. They want to spend money on defense.

Young kids got money and wants to spend it on candy. They want to spend it on pass rushers and corners and linebackers and safeties. And instead, they rebuilt the interior of the O line. That's what Chicago did. So this is impressive. They checked too many boxes not to be a team capable of getting to a conference championship, and here's the coach after. I think we got a really good big picture view of where we are and where we're going

and what we need to do in the here and the now. Does winning 10 games mean anything to you? Not really. We're just, we're on to the next one. You know, it's 10, 10's great, but it's not enough. So much in this sport, we talk about it all the time, is attrition. yesterday, Green Bay suffered really gutting losses. Chicago's healthy.

DJ Moore, very important that he and Caleb had a good Sunday. Because they sometimes body language didn't feel great at the end of that Green Bay game. But it was funny yesterday. I woke up in Chicago, it's four degrees. And I'm like, well, it's not windy. They'll be fine. They won't be affected by the weather. I mean, it's just impressive.

There are a handful of teams in this league that are really spectacularly well coached. And the Chicago Bears are one of them. And here's the scene in the locker room after. Good better, Bear Bear! I'm telling you, they check the boxes to me, J. Mack with the news. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. Well, let's go to the Philadelphia Eagles, Colin.

and Jalen Hertz was spectacular against the Raiders in a 310 romp, 200 total yard, 214 total yards, three touchdowns. But interestingly, we found a good quote from Nkobi Dean, the great linebacker on the Eagles. He said this about Jalen Hertz. I wouldn't want another quarterback. You see a guy that takes so much criticism in every aspect but comes in with the same resolve.

To me, he can't do no wrong in my eyes. And listen, that's a very good point that. This is the Super Bowl MVP. A couple bad games. Oh, he's garbage. Let's trade him. Should we bench him? And then he bounces back against the Raiders.

It's good to hear someone in that locker room sticking up for QB1. It is hard. I almost look at Raider games as they don't count. I don't know what to do. I mean, it is Cincinnati yesterday. It looked like they almost quit. Ravens players saying first series of the game, like they weren't ready to play. Listen, it's a nice win.

You take it. They're easily the most talented team. in the division and you just get ready for January. Well, we could take some positive. Hertz was running more than he had for like the last like eight weeks. I think he had 39 yards on the ground. Yeah. Like to see that.

Now it's against the zone. The Raiders play a terrible zone defense. So, you know, he's able to find his spots. So overall, I thought it was a great win for the Eagles. The Dallas loss coupled with the Eagles win. Eagles are going to the playoffs. They're probably going to get the three seed, right? Yeah.

Tampa or Carolina will get the four. So I like the Eagles as long as the matchups. up, here we go. I would probably Eagles against that Sam Darnold in Philly. I'm sorry, I would take the Eagles in that game, Colin. Against the Niners, Niners defense is not great. The Titans kind of move the ball. Oh, they did.

And I think the Packers, I don't want to talk. I'm sad about the Packers. I think they're done. I don't think they can make a legit run. So I think the Eagles are back to being a contender in the NFC. It's clearly the Rams, right? Yeah, and I just, I think we're going to see those Seahawks and the Rams on Thursday.

You're going to see, to me, the two deepest rosters outside of Philadelphia in the NFC. So I really do believe this. I think the top of the NFC for the first time in like five years is better than the top of the AFC. Without question. Without question. Totally. Next story, let's

stick in the NFC and go to that Rams Lions game. Man, wow. Lions were up 2414. Right? I'm like, oh, Rams in trouble. And then the second half happened. And Dan Campbell and everybody in Detroit, It was just shocked. They couldn't do anything in the second half, Colin.

Here's Dan Campbell talking about how nobody should accept this loss. Don't go numb when you get these losses. You know, the win, lose, win, lose. Like, we got to get out of that rut, and it can't be okay. Well, well, we'll just, like, it should burn at you, you know. It should eat you up and do not go numb to the losing. Now we know, you know, now you have first-hand knowledge of what, you know, what probably the top of the NFC looks like right now.

That's them, you know. And so now you know. You know what it looks like. You know what it is, and we're not there right now. It doesn't mean we can't be, but now we know what it looks like. Listen, that was a really good swing. I think what happened in that game is what we sort of thought would, which is they couldn't make stops over the course of 12 or 13 drives.

They had a pretty good scheme initially, and then the floodgates opened, even without Devonte Adams. I also think the Rams are going to make a lot of defenses look like this. If you're a little banged up on the defensive end, Rams will expose you. I mean, they're tight ends, they're receivers, they're running backs. The Interior O line is unbelievable. So I just think losing to the Rams and giving up 30 points,

I mean, you saw yesterday, you never know when Stafford lets go with that ball. You never know who's going to catch it. They're stacked. I was impressed the Rams. It looked like at halftime they brought a safety closer to the line. a scrimmage and went with a single high to try to disrupt the short passing game. Amaran St. Brown was just lighting them up. I mean, Jameson, the Rams secondary, Colin, is a bit of a problem.

I mean, this is a few weeks in a row now. And that should worry you because in the end, when you're, that's like a bad bullpen in baseball, you can dominate the game for eight innings and it gets leaky. The Rams will go in and dominate a lot of teams, but you'll be holding on for dear life because they are, I think they're talented at safety, but they're going to draft the corner. They should have last year. You know, they brought in the kid from DC. Forbes. Yeah. Forbes. You try to, you know, lead. Yeah. So I just think there are no perfect teams with a salary cap. And when you're paying your quarterback big money, there are no perfect teams.

They are weak on the back end. And we should have talked about the Devante Adams hamstring. Still no word on how long he's going to be out. I don't know if it's a couple weeks, a month. Hamstrings are tricky, Colin, a soft tissue. It's dicey. They're not going to have him probably against Seattle this week. He's probably back for the playoffs. I think you probably, they have enough depth offensively, especially at tight end and running back. Blake Corum is starting to pop a little bit.

Oh, he looks good, man. He looks really quick. So I think you can get away without Devonte for three weeks, but you'll need him in the postseason. Yeah, listen, it's not Victory Lap Monday, but two guys on this show did call the Lions pullback after losing Ben Johnson. And we were taking heat for it the first month of the season, right? but for six weeks, reality set in Detroit,

you got to fix that offensive coordinator spot. Final story, Colin, let's go to my guy. Brock Purdy, a spectacular performance. I mean, downright heroic. Purdy was just masterful. 339 total yards, three tutties. Niners scored on their first five possessions and dispatched the Titans.

Listen, they're a quiet 10 and 4, and I think not a lot being talked about the Niners because of all the injuries. coaching staff of the year in the NFL. Yeah. I mean, listen, let's be rude. When you lose Kittle, they lost Purdy for like half the season. Warner.

Boza. How are they doing this? No, it's just great coach. I mean, I watched last night Minnesota and Dallas. What Minnesota's offensive coaches have done to J.J. McCarthy in three to four weeks, I mean, he looked like a complete bust. And last night, he's playing with a ton of confidence. It's like, well, he didn't just learn how to throw.

That's coaching. San Francisco. This staff, if they gave out coaching staff of the year, considering the injuries, it goes to the Niners. I saw a stat that is troubling for Salas defense is that Tennessee had one of their best success rates on the ground all season. Yeah. I mean, listen, what's the ceiling for the Niners? If they can't stop the run of Tennessee? Like, there are some concerns on my end with the Niners.

Their offense, though, they're going to keep them in playoff games, right? Oh, I, yeah, I mean, they feel like a team capable of winning a playoff game. Can they get to the Super Bowl? No. I don't think they can get to the conference championship with that defense. Remember, when you go to the playoffs, you're facing the best coaches. That's not what Tennessee has. You're facing the very best coach.

Yeah, I mean, yesterday, here's Kansas City, reeling has to win. Oh, Jim Harbaugh shows up with Herbert and Jesse Minner. They can't move the ball again. So, again, the playoffs just looks. look different. Young teams get nervous. I mean, Caleb Williams' first playoff game, it's going to feel different. And that's why people say, well, what about Denver? Let me tell you something. Denver's got an advantage. It's called the altitude and Sean Payton in the playoffs. So the playoffs, though, it... Well, actually, that's a great point. Niners, bears in the playoffs? I'm riding with the

Niners in that one. I'm riding with the bears. Quick stat. Brock Purdy, our staff built, yes, built a graphic for Brock Purdy. Colin, through his first 50 starts, he is Second in NFL history. NFL history in passer rating. Second in NFL history in yards per attempt. And fourth in NFL history in completion percent. He looked great yesterday. He looked great.

50 starts. That's not just yesterday. 50 starts, 50, my friend. Patrick Mahomes, I don't know where he is on here. I don't know where Bo Nix is not sniffing top 10 on this stuff, my guy. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. for stopping by. The Herd Lie News.

When you never rely on athleticism, right, and you're an old quarterback, and you come back and you're a little less athletic, what's it mean? I mean, they've done studies on people who are born blind, and they have a greater heightened sense of smell and touch and feel because they have to. So Philip Rivers has always been really good pre-snap. The thing Tom Brady always talks about. always like, you can get yourself out of mistakes before the ball is snapped because you know what's coming.

So Philip Rivers, I said this on last week's show, I said, what if he's just like the old Philip Rivers? He can still throw it. He was the least athletic quarterback in the league when he left. Well, I watched yesterday, pre-snap, toughness, accuracy. I mean, I don't know, he's fine. Maybe he'll be tired next week, won't get a nap in before the game. He looked fine to me, despite the fact that were nine field goals in that game.

And let's be honest. Let's be fair about this. Sam Darnold did have the game-winning drive. Sam Darnold didn't throw an interception. Seattle came in with a super conservative game plan. We talked about that last week. Seattle didn't want to give Philip Rivers a win. They were conservative, no big risks.

Seattle didn't have a lot of penalties. They were very efficient, very bland, very vanilla, and Seattle won the game. But the whole Philip Rivers thing, I mean, he got rid of the ball quickly. He got the offense into the right spot. So much, this is what Tom Brady has been banging on for two years on Fox. So much of this sport for quarterbacks isn't running around. You got a win from the pocket, and you got to win before the ball has snapped. That's what he did.

he kept him on track I've said I like their roster their O line gave him time to throw so I thought it was I mean again if there are certain professional athletes if they don't rely on

athleticism I saw Kirk Cousins last week on Thursday was chopping it up I saw Brady at 44 Stafford couldn't even practice in the camp because of a bad back if you're if you master the pocket. If you've seen every defense, you're going to be okay. And here's Philip Rivers

after a pretty, I mean, it didn't throw for a lot of yards, but it was a pretty impressive performance. It was a blast. It was a blast, but obviously the emotions now are disappointment. Right. Disappointment. This isn't about me. You know, we got a team that's scrapping like crazy to try to stay alive and get in the postseason. If I can stay healthy, like I feel good. and it's going to get better as we go. But the catch in that is we've got to win. It doesn't really matter if it's getting better as we go if we don't win because it's going to be over in three weeks.

And this is something again that we spend, and listen, I love that Bo Nix and Caleb Williams are athletic. I think in your first three years in the league is you're learning defenses. If you can augment your pocket stuff, picking first downs up with your legs, that's great. But by late year three or year four or five in the, this league, you got to be good from the bucket.

You've got to be good pre-snap if you want to hoist trophies. Here's Tom Brady on that. We just exploited the weak parts of defense. And the problem in the NFL today is guys aren't doing that. Guys aren't being developed through college. And then when they get to the pro, they're so far behind that the coach feels like, okay, I need to control this game from the sideline. So the teams that I think have a great advantage going forward are the ones with the older

quarterbacks who the coaches do give them the autonomy to, to say, okay, whatever you see out there, you can change the play. You can get us in the right play. We trust you. And that's exactly what the Colts did yesterday. It was, you know, considering there were nine field goals, it was ping pong at the end. I found that to be a wildly entertaining game. Seattle came in, only allowed one sack, you know, not a lot of penalties.

Darnold didn't throw a pick. You knew Seattle was going to come in with the Rams on deck Thursday. Not unveil the playbook. Try to stay healthy. Run it a lot. A lot of completions. Get out of this game with no injuries. And that's what Seattle did.

But I thought it was great. Colin right. Colin wrong. Top of the hour. Albert Breer stops by. We may have some coaching changes this week or next. The latest on the Dallas Cowboys as well. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m.

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begins at 4 p.m. Eastern on Fox. I've compared Denver and the Bears a lot where nobody quite believes them. They both have young quarterbacks in year two that are hyper athletic. It is amazing. One of the great things about the NFL, that you can't really do this in the NBA. because players that come into the NBA through the draft, you know, they're usually not quite ready to be dominant. Also, a coach has limitations in basketball. Ben Johnson has no limitations. College football coaches, Kurt Signetti, has made Indiana power.

And so one of the great things about football, college or pro, if you get the right coach, I mean, think about this. Chicago Bears have been mostly lost offensively since the mid-70s. and now they're excellent. Like it just takes the coach and hopefully you get a good quarterback, preferably young, so you can afford other great players on the roster. But it is, it's kind of magic. In baseball, there's limitations based on how much your owner is going to spend.

In basketball, there's limitations that drafts a bunch of 19, 20-year-old kids not ready to dominate. It's amazing when you look at Chicago last year and Chicago this year. It's like two different franchises. Get the coach right. Get the staff right. Elevate the young quarterback. Spend some money in the right places. Interior O line.

I mean, you look at Denver and Chicago. A month ago, we were like, oh, no. I don't know. I buy both. All right. Dallas loses last night. They had extra time to prepare. So they were inexcusably awful on third down.

And there's a handful of coaching staff. in this league where you've got a great head coach and one all-star coordinator. New England, Rams, San Francisco, Green Bay, Chicago. I think Minnesota's one of those teams. We don't think

Iber Flus and Schottenheimer. Jerry's always gone cheap on coaches. He's never truly respected coaches. You know, like Parcells and Jimmy Johnson, those guys wouldn't pander to Jerry Jones, and they left. And they're both all-time coaches. So, you know, it's been

Chan Galey and Brian Schottenheimer. Mike McCarthy had a Super Bowl, but I feel like the Cowboys are six, seven, and one. The over under in Vegas was like seven, seven and a half. Macro, this is what they are. They've got one win over a winning team, Philadelphia, which has been hot and cold and can't quite find their way. I think what you watched last night was elite coaching in Minnesota. J.J. McCarthy was, I mean, lost a month ago.

looked like an absolute first round bust. That kid is now playing with so much confidence. Now, you know, I don't think the coaching staff in Minnesota love that dance, but he is playing with a ton of confidence. That's coaching. J.J. McCarthy didn't just learn how to throw a football. We've talked about it. Coaching is like 40% in this sport, but a great coordinator,

Robert Sol and San Francisco, what a year he's having. and I just thought on display last night was what a great staff can do to a struggling quarterback and what a mediocre staff can do when you have a quarterback as good as Dak Prescott, extra rest, nice weapons. Dallas was awful on third down, wasn't good situationally. So, I mean, Sean Payton gets empowered by his owner. Right. Like, you hope the best owners want to head coach to be a leader of,

an organization, it feels like Jerry wants his coach to be an employee of his organization. And so I think 6, 7, and 1 it's what they are. Here's Jerry after. We certainly didn't think we'd be here in this kind of shape with

three games to go and be behind the eight ball the way we are. It's very disappointing. I'm really, obviously, very disappointed for our fans. I'm disappointed for these players. I didn't expect that. I thought we could come out here and on both sides of the ball,

make a better accounting of ourselves. Minnesota did the best job out there today on both sides of the ball. Yeah. So it's time to spend $12 to $15 million on a coach. I mean, think of what a mess. Jim Harbaugh inherited with the Chargers. They were, I mean, that Brandon Staley, they had a totally broken culture.

Two to three weeks later, players are talking. talking about, oh, it's a new day. Look at what Sean Payton inherited that cap hit from hell in Denver. Like the reality with NFL coaching, like Matt LaFleur, a month ago had a broken offense. You got to fix stuff in two weeks. You don't get an offseason. And offensive coaches are really good at it. It is remarkable to watch J.J. McCarthy now from three to four weeks ago. I mean, it was done. It looked like Jared Goff's rookie year. You're like, oh, this isn't going to work at all. So I thought he played.

I mean, to me, it wasn't the arm strength. He just played with confidence. He played like he had a really good coach in his ear, slowly, patiently, dialing up the right things that he would be good at. The play calling was excellent, situational football at its best. So, yeah, I do think you just get to a point. We've said this for years. The Lakers were a mom and pop shop.

Finally, the bus family sold. It feels different. The new owners aren't beholding the, LeBron, it's Lucas team. And I feel the Cowboys, Little Insular, Mom and Pop Shop, I've liked a lot of the deals they have done. The Quinn and Williams deal I like. But, but you got to spend money on a coach.

Look around right now what Vrabel did. Now, people could say Vrable lost yesterday. New England's still, honestly, in a rebuild. Their offensive lines missing a couple starters. Their old line in the second half couldn't do anything. It's not a knock on Brian Schottnheimer. He wasn't a candidate. to be head coach for 14 years.

And eventually in the NFL, week 14, week 15, week 16, the truth comes out. And there's just too many great coaching staffs, especially in the NFC. The Bears, the Vikings, the Rams, the Niners, Seattle, it's just the standard is way up here. And I just don't feel like Jerry is willing to spend big money and empower a Harbaugh. of Vrable, a Sean Payton. I mean, never forget, Mike McCarthy had this job and walked away on his terms.

You almost never see that in the NFL where a coach making eight figures is like, I'm out, you got a good quarterback, got a star receiver, got a star edge rusher, I'm out. So I think it's fair to say it's time to step up. The world has changed.

It has never been a coach, has never been more valuable, and all you have to do is go look at Chicago. J. Matt, Colin Wright, Colin wrong, next hour, some devastating injuries, obviously. Mahomes, that's probably about a nine-month rehab. Micah Parsons, a non-contact injury. That's tough because he felt like that was one of the better trades. Green Bay doesn't make a lot of those big trades. They don't do that a lot.

So it was a bit of a dice roll. They gave up a couple of first-round picks. They can't get pressure without him, Colin. I mean, and offensively without Watson, they had 55 yards from the early third quarter when he went out. I mean, they were up 2314 with the ball. Jalen Hertz tries to throw a bomb. It's not Jeline Hertz. Jordan Love.

Jordan Love, sorry. And Sertan intercepts it and lands on Watson. Yeah. Their offense did nothing the rest of the way. And no pressure without Micah. I think they're cooked. Tonight, Dolphin Steelers. I think Miami's going to be pesky.

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