The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Belichick gets destroyed, Parsons getting traded to the Packers, Ryan Day

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

Colin reacts to Bill Belichick getting blown out by TCU in his college coaching debut and why the legendary head coach has fallen behind the modern state of football He gives his thoughts on the Packers trading for Micah Parsons and why it's not the huge loss for the Cowboys that some may think Ohio State HC Ryan Day joins The Herd to talk about the Buckeyes win over the LonghornsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Live in L.A., it's the herd, wherever you may be, however you may be, however you may be That's Ryan Day, Buckeyes head coach stops by Nick Wright, Albert Breer. Our final herd hierarchy moving into the season. We're all a little tan, ready to roll J. Max. So that was about his bad last. I knew what today's lead was going to be. And for at least five to seven minutes, it was a masterpiece for UNC. Michael Jordan and Roy Williams, that ended up being an all-time clock.

I mean, that is as bad, 29 to 10 first downs. So there was a lot of hope. Even TCU's social media team is mocking Carolina football today. So of all the discussion about Bill Belichick, the big concern I had was, remember I talked about this, 40 transfers? It's like a friends and family coaching staff. There's three Belichick's and Mike Lombardi and his son. And then there's Belichick's girlfriend.

and then there's Jamie Collins who's never been a coach, but he played with Belichick. It kind of feels like a friends and family staff. And I saw that with Bill Belichick at the end of New England. He didn't hire the best coaches available. He hired the guys he was most comfortable with. Young Bill Belichick would have fired this Bill Belichick. He's seeking comfort. You can't coach in a gated community.

Nick Sabin goes out and hires Lane Kiffin as the OC. They were at each other's throats. Sabin was not seeking the most comfortable guy to hire. He brought in Lane, Lane's ego, but Lane's a great coach. And Saban continually would go get the best coach available. After the first drive, they had a really nice scripted first drive. After that, six drives without completing a pass. Because the game has changed.

You have to take offense seriously. Freddie Kitchens is the OC. He was already on staff. You know, so why putting the effort into going out and getting the best OC on the market? We'll just move up Freddie Kitchens. Was Freddie Kitchens up for elite offensive coordinator jobs in the NFL or college? He wasn't, but he was on staff. You know, this is like what they did in New England where they made the D.C., the offensive coordinator.

We'll worry about offense tomorrow. This offense isn't good. This is when Belichick interviewed with the Atlanta Falcons. Remember, he laid out his plan, and one of the reports, or two of the reports were, well, he wanted to hire his guys. McVeigh coaches his guys, then they go on and become good head coaches. Andy Reid, he'll coach his guys. Then they leave. You ever notice with Belichick, it's a lot of the people that stick around.

They may leave. They always come back. So I watched last night. Sonny Dykes, by the way, the coach at TCU, his dad. was a legendary coach. You know what? They never worked together. They didn't want the nepotism. They didn't work together. So as I watched the game unfold, the longer it went, you could see the gap in coaching. And some of this is 40 transfers. I mean, I got to be honest, the transfer portal feels a little like Bitcoin. Everybody thinks they're going to get rich, and it's a lot of

nonsense and hope and hype. And I'm not really sure you're ever going to be able to buy a really nice house with it. But hey, it sounds great. Let's bring in all these new players. But I think Belichick has become the chef that won't change the menu. Bill, in his career, if you count the Browns, the Patriots, and Carolina last night without Tom Brady, his average 19 points in his career. Forget the record, which is unimpressive, sub 500. He doesn't move the ball. He doesn't take offense seriously enough.

Change the menu. Update the wait staff to new menu. It's a new area of town. and they're all the hipsters around you are taking offense seriously. So I watched TCU. I watched their quarterback. I watched their offense. They dabbled just a little in the transfer portal.

That was a well-coached team, and the longer the game went, the more they pulled away. But, you know, this is, again, it feels like Bill has moved into a time in his life where he just wants to work with coaches he's comfortable with and people he's comfortable with. You know, there was years and years ago on this show. I think it was Urban Meyer, and said he had talked to Bill, you know, and at one point, Bill had said, you know, there's certain players, I'm just not going to coach anymore. That is the opposite of the early Bill Belichick. You took guys that could be a little crazy.

You took guys that didn't make you comfortable. You had to be a mentor to some of the coaches. They didn't know your system. But that's okay. That is how you grow in life with a little discomfort. You have to bark occasionally. Things go a little sideways. I just, I had concerns coming into this thing is that TCU came in with a

staff that'd been around. They knew college football. But this was way worse than I thought at its worst it could be. And here's Bill after. They just outplayed us. They out coached us. I mean, they were just better than we were tonight. That's all it was to it. They control both sides of the line of scrimmage. Their skill players played well. And, you know, they just, they did a lot more things right than we did. We're better than what we were tonight. But we have to go out there and show that and prove it. So nobody's going to do it for us. We'll have to do ourselves and that's what we're going to do. All right, so the second story, and this happened several days ago, but ESPN threw a slew

of reporters at it. It's a very interesting read. It's inside the Cowboys decision to trade Micah Parsons. And so I'm always a little, and I think all the reporters on this, Don Van Nott is very good, Seth Wicker, Shamm, there's a lot of good reporters, Jeremy Fowler, these are really talented people. I'm always a little gun shy about crushing the player because I know where the leaks come from. There's a lot of leaks from the Cowboys side, you know, protecting the enterprise and protecting the brand.

And there's stories here that he wasn't good in the wait room. He didn't get treatment regularly. He participated in walkthroughs, but his behavior could be odd. And, you know, in the locker room, he was kind of a deflating energy. A lot of this stuff I don't want to get into because I know where it's coming from. The Cowboys got crushed for this move. And now they want to make it look like, well, the Packers are getting damaged goods here. and the Packers are getting a playmaker,

but I still support the move. Now, I don't think I talked to somebody over the weekend. I don't think Michael was the most popular guy in the locker room. Albert Breer reported that Zach Martin, C.D. Lamb and Dak are more popular. That's okay. By the way, Jalen Hertz, believe it or not, is not the most beloved player in the Eagles locker room. Saquan Barkley is loved in that locker room.

Jalen Hurts, a little hit and miss, does his own thing. Not everybody loved Peyton Manning. He would bark at his friends Jeff Saturday. I don't care if the quarterback, Troy Aitman, legendary, barking at coaches, barking at players. So I don't care if you're the most loved guy, but I will say this. When you pay a guy 47 million, and that's what he wanted, you got to have the cake made, right? Like they needed in Dallas, because they're not Green Bay. They don't have the culture right now or the leadership.

They needed Michael Parsons to be more than just seaball, go get it. and that's largely what he was. He's just going to go wreck a play. The problem is they have a weak coaching staff right now in Dallas. It's not a great roster. It may not be a great culture. And here's the thing. When you're going to give $47 million to a guy and you're still kind of, you're kind of in a soft rebuild,

you need them more than just have IG followers and some sacks. and Dallas now to me has flexibility. And Jerry Jones has always played himself off as a big deal maker, and he's an oil catter, kind of a maverick, right? He was a pushback guy if you watch the documentary on Netflix. He's a wild catter, they called it. So he was a dealmaker. The problem is the last two years they can't make any deals.

They have no flexibility. They had the worst running back room in the league, and they couldn't go by Derek Henry for $8 million, which we kept pounding the table on this show in Baltimore did. So they couldn't make any deal. deals. That was only going to get worse paying Micah $47 million. And so now they've got four first round picks in the next couple of years and they have real flexibility. That's what Dallas needs. Because in this sport right now, is there any greater dealmaker than Howie Roseman in their division twice a year with the Eagles? No. I mean, Philadelphia is tweaking. They're doing chess. Dallas is checkers and they couldn't even make moves on checkers over the last couple of years in free agency. So it gives them flexibility. It gives them multiple first round picks. I would certainly look at drafting another quarterback next year in the first round if I could.

I know you're all loved with DAC. But this insistence that Dallas got hosed, folks, I've seen Dak, C.D. Lamb and Micah in the playoffs. Yeah, I saw those guys get housed by the Green Bay Packers in Dallas, and that was the youngest playoff team since 1970 Buffalo Bills. Remember Green Bay walked in. That thing about three series in was over. the Packers came with a bunch of 23-year-old kids, blew them out. Jordan Love blew them out.

So I've seen this. I don't get the rinse and repeat factor or this insistence. I mean, the thing about Micah, he's a really good fit for what Green Bay needs now. But Dallas needs flexibility more than an edge rusher who disappears at times against the best left tackles he goes up against. he's never been a guy with great instincts or great eyes that's why you can't use him in a stack linebacker inside space you need him to just go and wreck plays i'd have trouble paying 47 million so i think two things can be true i think he works right now for green bay but this idea that that i've seen cd dac and micah i got one playoff win that's it and this coaching staff in

my opinion is worse than that coaching staff that got housed by the Packers. Here's Micah. Winning is everything to me. I don't think you're going to find a more competitive person on the team or anywhere in the NFL when it comes to

anything we do. So when you talk about winning and the stage of what it takes, I haven't been there and I don't know what it takes but I got a funny feeling that a lot of this history this program does. You know, they weren't further than us and obviously they had a a big one against us, and I trust Coach LaFleur.

And, you know, I really feel like, you know, we can do it. And like I said, I really want to win real bad. Yeah, Coach LaFleur and the youngest playoff team since the 1970 Buffalo Bills had a 27-0-0 lead on Dallas and Dallas. So I've never understood this. I know to a fault, I'm a non-traditionalist, but this idea that I just can't let go of stars. I don't get it.

Everybody's got different windows. Dallas is in a reboot. Dallas may have a new coaching staff by next year. I'd seen Micah in big games against the best left tackles, and he could be grabbed and became kind of invisible in big spots. He served you well. You got a lot of plays out of him, but it's a different time. And I think Dallas, the ability to have some self-awareness and acknowledge,

Green Bay's Super Bowl team, we're not. let's get first round picks. I totally support with Dallas. I've been banging on this team for years. You need more good players. Not a $47 million edge rusher. You already overpaid for DAC. You paid CD about what he deserves.

You don't need to pay an edge rusher 47 million. You have two first rounders next year. Get a quarterback. Later first round, go get another edge rusher. He'll be a lot cheaper. J-Mack, we have got in one hour from now our final herd hierarchy in to the regular season plus Nick Wright, Ryan Day of the Buckeyes. That was a very impressive start by them.

Well, listen. You thought so? They had 200 yards of offense. See, I contend that Ryan Day in Ohio State watched the first two series and they saw how much trouble Matt Patricia, NFL guy, was giving Arch Manning, and I believe Ryan Day got on a headset and looked at it. I mean, I can see this from TV. That was one of those guys.

Let's just play field position. We're going to be okay here. Now, you could argue if they score on the tush push, maybe it's a different environment. But I thought if there was any criticism of Ohio State, they played a little safe. But if you were on that field and you're Ryan Day, and I am here to you, the distance, me and Arch Manning, and I'm watching his feet, his arm mechanics, the slotting, like he was off. Yeah. I kind of crushed him yesterday. and people are coming after me on Texas.

Hey, take a deep breath. It's one game. God, Arch sat for two years. He knows this system well. He couldn't do anything against the Buckeye. That surprised me. Big time. Yeah, I'll have some thoughts on that.

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It was his first big start. It's in Columbus, against Ohio State, against Matt Patricia, an NFL, elite NFL defensive coordinator. You maybe have heard of Ohio State. They bulldozed the country last year in our last three or four games. So it was not exactly, it's like opening on Broadway. You didn't get any local theater. It was a rough open.

But I didn't want it to look like that. The mechanics were off. sometimes he waded into pressure sometimes he didn't feel real pressure I didn't like the arm slotting he side-armed a couple he skipped open guys he missed a lot of layups so people say well he's only been at Texas two years he was an early enrollee if you go from that day until today

it's about three years and sark is known as a great offensive quarterback's coach so I did not like the way it looked my takeaway during the game was you know what this kid's needs the manning passing academy He needs the family's own academy. He just looked off. I also did not love the multiple TV commercials. Like a little more self-awareness.

I want more touchdown passes than add campaigns, please. And I've been critical of a lot of quarterbacks, not just Arch Manning. I understand nerves. I understand jitters. The schedule I looked at it this morning, let's just say there's a three-game winning street coming. So it was a brutal opening. he will not face a defensive coordinator. Even Sark admitted after the game, he goes, that was the elite coverage.

These NFL coordinators, they're all very good against the pass or they get fired. You have to be good as an NFL defensive coordinator against the pass. In college football, stop the run because you very rarely face an elite quarterback. Stop the run in college as a coordinator. You're mostly good. In the NFL, you've got to make sure that Josh Allen or Burrow don't go 33 of 37. So Matt Patricia is going to be the best defensive coordinator he ever faces. It was the Buckeyes.

It was Columbus. It is a buzzsaw on big games at the shoe. So I'm going to give him a little pass. But it shouldn't look like that. That wasn't just jitters. That's three years with Sark. The mechanics didn't. understand or feel pressure, sometimes moved into it.

I was sitting with people who have been in football for a long time, and it was a little jaw-dropping. It was a little daunting to watch. So here is Arch after. Yeah, ultimately not good enough. Obviously, you don't want to start off season 0-1-1. They're a good team, but I thought we beat ourselves a lot, and that starts with me, and I've got to play better for us to win.

Can't wait until the second half to kind of get things going. I thought we could have played better, and I could have played a lot better. So just bombed we couldn't execute. Now, remember, Joe Burrow with LSU's talent, his first year transferring to LSU completed 57% of his throws. He had some rocky ones. You know, Nick Sabin's first year at Bama, he lost at home to Louisiana Monroe. Matt Stafford, second year of Georgia, completed like 55% of his throws.

So it's a game, and the schedule gets Cupcake Soft. But it's, I talk about this all the time. I've always defended, I've seen Brady throw pick sixes and Super Bowls, breeze over, shoot a guy down the sideline by 20 yards, there's a big energy. That's not what I saw. I saw layups. I saw easy stuff skipped. And that's, that is troubling.

Tom Brady talked about there may be some good that comes out of a humiliating performance. There's a blessing and a curse in some of it. the curse is a lot of people pile on. The blessing is, I don't believe a quarterback, there needs to be resilience built up in the quarterback as well. So even though he didn't have his best game today and they lost, if he uses this to his advantage, Arch, he's going to be tougher for it. And he's going to have a better next game because of it.

And again, people are saying, hey, don't crush the kid. Nobody's crushing him. But the Manning family is different. This is not just a kid in the bright lights. I said this a couple weeks ago. Like Manning family dinners are events. Like it's the Manning family. It's American football royalty.

So I think it's fair to say, wow, that doesn't look close to being where he should be at after two and a half, three years with Sark and Texas talent. I think that is fair. I don't think that's mean. I think that is fair today to say, Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, let's go right to Chicago, the Windy City.

Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams, their first regular season game, Monday night football. Vikings are favored in Chicago. Well, they have the better roster. We would admit, Minnesota's probably got a better composition. Yeah, but still, Chicago at home under the bright lights. In a recent interview, Ben Johnson says one of the biggest challenges will be getting all their weapons the football. It's a completely different personnel, so we're going to do what our guys do best. And I think we've got weapons in every room, you know, running back, tight-in, receiver.

And so it's going to be hard on us coaches to make sure that we're getting everybody the ball. So two ways to look at this. One is, hey, we got a lot of guys. The other is, hey, Caleb, we've got weapons. you better deliver. Yeah, it is. No pressure. No pressure, Caleb.

I got to tell you, I looked at this schedule. This is maybe the most fascinating game. It's not just the Caleb Williams story. We do not know what J.J. McCarthy is. I at least have seen Caleb Williams. I mean, he only had six picks last year. We saw his dynamic athletic ability. I have no idea.

Now, I love Minnesota's O-line, left tackles back, Justin Jefferson I think you know you know how Matt Patricia was the secret sauce in the Buckeyes Longhorns game Brian Flores Caleb Williams

against Brian Flores is the secret sauce in this the defensive coordinator Yeah I'm gonna tell you My early lean is I like Minnesota here Yeah I would look at the under I'm with you Brian Flores good

But Brian Flores was employed last year By the Vikings in Awesome Patricia was unemployed He was doing podcast last year Now he's dominating in Ohio State. And I look at these weapons at Colin, honestly, they're good. Swift is very good. We like DJ more.

Roma Dunze is a fantasy breakout guy. A lot of people think he's going to pop. Colston Loveland is an exceptional tight end. I think if maybe I'm being too negative, but if you read between the lines on this comment by Ben, we just got to get, we don't have any quarterback problems. We got to get everybody the ball. It's like, hmm, I don't know.

That Baygent contract surprised me. I don't want to be too negative, but, like, I think more pressure on Caleb in this game than J.J. McCarthy in his debut. There's no question. And Chicago's, you know, they call it Minnesota nice. Minnesota doesn't get hostile. Chicago gets hostile fast. It's a big, loud Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago. They have expectations. I am fascinated, and I just don't know. I mean, if you told me I get to watch one game this weekend, it's Bears Vikings, and for both quarterbacks. Really? I know I have two brilliant offensive coaches.

Chargers, Chiefs, Eagles, Cowboys without, without. That game's over in the second quarter. I think lines going up, by the way, just in the last day. I mean, just the coaches, Chicago, Minnesota, those two teams have so many elite offensive weapons. That's your number one game of the weekend. Oh, I think it's fascinating because there's such a mystery behind the quarterbacks. Jet Steelers?

Not remotely interested. All right, let's move on to Jalen Hertz and the defending Super Bowl champion. Eagles, there will not be a Super Bowl hangover. Look at that line. You see that eight and a half. It opened at seven. I know. All the numbers are at seven.

It was the bed of the weekend, Philadelphia. This could be a beatdown. Let's just go to the, Diana Rusini believe Jalen Hertz mentality will be the key to the team's success this year. Jalen views this season so differently than he has every other year because now that he has the ring, it's a completely different mentality. The pressure's off, right? he's done it now. So now it almost feeds into the confidence that he's done it. He knows how to do it.

He knows how to win in the big moments. You know my favorite part about Jalen Hertz? And I was talking with somebody, I was gone for about nine, ten days. And I was talking to somebody about nine or ten days ago. And they said people would be surprised to know that Jalen's not the most popular player in the locker room, but he may be the most respected, is that Jalen really goes to the beat to his own drummer. You know, he's got his management team.

It's all women. He does his own thing. He's got his own view of it. And I think he's one of those athletes that will be totally unaffected by winning. I think he's got a very, I think good parents, strong parents. He's got a real strong sense of self. I think Jalen Hertz is one of those unique athletes that he just, the heartbeat doesn't change win or lose. You get the same guy.

and he's not really concerned, they call it inner scoreboard. He's not really concerned what I think of him, the media thinks of him, the fans think of him. That's good. He's not necessarily always concerned what his teammates think of him, I've heard. He's just, he's guy,

I've said before, at the podium, he's the best I've ever seen. That is a noisy team and a noisy town and a noisy fan base and a noisy media. His personality, you would never know on the Wednesday presser if they won by 30 or lost. You would never know. No. So he was at Alabama thriving, then gets benched, very humbling.

Goes to Oklahoma, what happened? Right back in the playoff. This guy's, you can't stop him. He's really, and I like your point. He tunes out the outside noise. He does. He does not give a crap. He really doesn't. It's the opposite of a guy now that I like Baker Mayfield. Remember Baker's first two years in Cleveland? He heard everything. Shalen hears nothing. Yeah, he's not favoriting tweets that are negative about him. He's in his own zone. He is, he is, if you're talking intangibles, his are as good as anybody's I've seen. Are you surprised there's not more chatter about the Eagles repeating?

I had not heard any. It was Chiefs. Hey, can they three Pete? Can the Chiefs? There's like nothing about the Eagles. You like the Rams. A lot of people talking 49er schedule. Green Bay ads, Micah.

I almost feel like the Eagles are undervalued. Colin, I don't want to say I unloaded on the Eagles here in this game. if they smash Dallas, and I'm talking like another 34-7, because they beat them badly twice last year. I just wonder if people are like, maybe that, I don't want to say dynasty. They've been to two Super Bowl to jail and hers already. They have the best composition of elite, older players, prime players, young players. They get the best young players in the elite.

They're defense. They also have multiple guys in their prime. They're all in the offensive line. Yeah. So they, and they tend to be, they move off guys a year early than late. They're never afraid to move off good older. players. Final story is your guy, Matthew Stafford. Now, we were texting about this yesterday. There is some concern about Stafford and his back, despite him starting in week one. McVeigh says

he's expected to start. I mean, come on, they're not going to hold Stafford out. But the key story here is left tackle Alaric Jackson. He had blood clots. He just started practicing. Participated in yesterday's practice, and McVeigh says the plan is for him to suit up. Now, maybe there's some gamesmanship. Hey, Stafford's back. Jackson with the blood cut. Or it's... Can I throw... This is the upset of the weekend potentially.

So I have Will Anderson, one of the best young Rush ends. He's bad. I have a left tackle that hasn't practiced until this week. And a quarterback that... By the way, he's D.B. Cooper, all camp. Where is he? Like, honestly, this game, if you're a Rams staff,

this game has to terrify you, if there's one thing you want to have ready to go when you play Houston, your left tackle. Yeah. Your offensive tackles, and I think Havenstein, did he have another shoulder surgery? He's had a couple of them. This game, if I'm the Rams, is, is, now, Devonte Adams, I think, is real juice. But when I'm reading the story on their left tackle, I'm like, this is not the team

to have a under-practice left tackle. But at the same time, what about the Rams defense? You love them, how they improved end of last season. This, to me, is an under game. Under, and I'm not, I don't have a side bet at all. I mean, listen, Texas's whole new offensive line, basically. And against the Rams front with your boy, verse, people are betting him to win defensive player of the year.

Like, that's how much hype there is. He was sensational. He was excellent. And he got better, first quadrant of the season of last. So our guys have a stat here. Stafford has struggled in week one. Remember, no preseason back. So maybe the Rams come out sluggish, a heavy Kyron Williams game, perhaps.

But, yeah, I'm with you. I like low scoring here. J-MAC with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. I want to touch on this again. So there's a story at ESPN.

They put all their best reporters on it. And listen, I'm not blaming the reporters, but Dallas is getting a little chirpy and chippy because Dallas is getting crushed for the trade to Micah. And I would have made the move a year ago. But I do think the draft picks Dallas accumulated next year are better than the ones in this draft, because this was a weak draft and next year is an unbelievable draft.

But here's the difference. Green Bay has a great coach. Dallas doesn't. Green Bay has winning momentum. Dallas doesn't. Green Bay has their culture set. Dallas doesn't. Green Bay is a Super Bowl capable team.

Dallas isn't. So you need Micah. You need Micah to be the cake and the icing in Dallas. Green Bay just needs them to be the iceing. They've got the culture, coach, the culture, the offense, a team-first mentality. They don't need much. They need a game wrecker. And Green Bay is in a division with Kevin O'Connell, Ben Johnson, Dan Campbell, and that great

offensive weaponry in Detroit. They got to get to the quarterback. And Green Bay does almost everything well except find game wreckers on defense. They did it with Charles Woodson. They did it with Reggie White. And I think that history and that success of taking a huge swing, which Green Bay doesn't do a lot, I think they look at this and they think this is our Charles Woodson. This is our Reggie White.

So I think everybody's got different windows. I think it works. Micah isn't for everybody. I tend to think he wanted $47 million. But for Green Bay, everybody's windows are different. Green Bay is, they needed a disruptor. They needed a distractor. They need a playmaker because they're in division with some of the smartest offensive people in the league.

And they got to get the ball back to their offense. So I thought Green Bay it was the time, the place. It's a little more than I want to pay. But, you know, they're paying Jordan Love and they're paying Micah. And quarterback and game record. And they also are a team that drafts and develops exceedingly well over the last 30 years. They're a team that gets third, fourth, fifth round players to perform. quickly and for long stretches.

So I'm always like Philadelphia does. I'm always going to say teams like that can take bigger swings because they get so many inexpensive players in the second, third, fourth, and fifth rounds. And Green Bay has been doing that forever. They've had great offensive lines the last 30 years. They almost never draft offensive linemen in the first round. So I like it for Green Bay. I like it for Dallas.

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And then not everybody was going, hey, brilliant hire. Chip Kelly was different. Everybody's like, that's going to work. But what did you see with Matt Patricia, who'd had a little coaching turbulence. What did you see, Ryan? Because he clearly was a problem for Arch and that Texas offense. Yeah, it's always great to be on your show, Colin.

Thanks for having me. First off, I've known Matt for a while. I know the type of person he is. He's a great man. He's a great husband, great father. And he really, early on, built relationships and trust within the building in a short period of time with the staff. And, you know, Tim Walton, Macquarie,

Larry Johnson, James Laurenitis, and the players deserve a ton of the credit. But that being said, Matt put it all together, and it's only a start. We got a long way to go. But certainly, you know, for our first game of the year with an experience group going on the field, it was a good start. You know, it was a weird early start for you. You got pinned deep a couple of times, and some Buckeye fans were like we gained a couple of hundred yards. But my takeaway was, and I said this, from the television set, I could see how uncomfortable Arch Manning was. and I said if I was Ryan Day, I would have just, I would have gotten on my headset and said, guys, this is bad field position. Get out of here. Let's not take big swings. Did you find yourself because of the situation you were in offensively that maybe you did get a little bit more conservative with Julian, say, in your quarterback, just because you were pinned, but Patricia was giving Arch and Texas fits, did you find yourself, you know, changing things in game?

Yes. We had a large call sheet. And on that call sheet was a bunch of different contingency plans. You know, if, if, you know, it's a high scoring game, if we go up by a score, if we go down by a score, we felt like, you know, there was a point where we were fairly, you know, in control of the game. We had that long drive. I think we had over eight minutes. We scored. I felt like the defense was playing well. And we were pinned. We got to do a better job of that, you know, in field position. We have to find ways not to get pinned inside our 10-yard line. Now, different situation as Julian matures, you know, we'll start, you know, opening it up, but we didn't want to turn the ball over down there and put our defense in a bad

spot. And that's one of the first things that our plan to win is play great defense. And a part of playing great defense is sometimes making sure you play the field position game. Now, we don't love that, you know, in terms of, you know, we want to be explosive. We want to open this thing up. We want to score a ton of points, which you know. But at the end of the day, the number one goal in a game like this was to win. You know, I think when you have a player like Jeremiah Smith, who is so sensational, and I've said this about the NFL sometimes, that young quarterbacks, you know, Dak Prescott goes to the Cowboys with Des Bryant, and you want to get in the ball. You feel almost guilty if you don't. And when you have a player like you guys are basically wide receiver university

in America is Ohio State, and you have so many gifted receivers, and you have such a gifted quarterback. Do you find yourself, because I thought your team was very physical, and to me, Ohio State football is physical football. How do you balance the, you know, we can do fast and finesse, we can be really pretty, but that's not necessarily what won this weekend. This weekend was toughness and physicality. Is that a tough balance for you with the quality of perimeter stars you have? Well, I think you always have to build an identity with every team that you have. and we wanted to build that identity early on is that we were going to play physical,

we were going to play downhill, the running backs were going to get downhill, and guys were going to finish around the ball. I think you saw a lot of that. Can we get better? Absolutely. Do we have a long way to go for sure? But I think once you build that foundation with the type of receivers and skill that we have,

and as the quarterback continues to build confidence, that's where when you can do both, when you can get ugly fours and you can get dirty and you can score in the red zone and convert on short yardage. Because there was a short yardage situation we didn't convert on early in the game. Like we got to do that. But then you also can spread it out and get the ball to your playmakers and playing an open game. That's when you have a chance to win championships.

And that's the goal. The goal isn't just to win the first game. It's to win championships down the road to build. What is, you know, when you hire Chip Kelly, who was your longtime friend. And, you know, he brings some NFL, but college is different. We saw Belichick struggle last night. When you listen, because you're the CEO of this program, is this going to be a trend?

I like the idea that years ago I felt like college and pro football, Ryan, were totally different sports. And I don't feel like that now. I kind of feel like Chip works either way. I'm watching Matt Patricia. That clearly worked. Do you think this will start a trend? Because I was always kind of cynical on these NFL guys coming to college.

They'd be impatient. I don't know. It feels like it kind of works to me. I think there's a lot of things that come into play. I agree with you. I think that's absolutely the case. I think the game, first off, is much more similar to the NFL now.

The hash marks are different, and that is significant. But the way the clock moves now, after every first down, the clock used to stop. Now that only happens inside of two minutes. So the games go quicker. Second thing that's different

is now that we can go close to player communication, you're seeing the huddle more. So the games and the number of plays has shrunk way down. And then when it used to be tempo where there was 85, 90 plays, that was a different style of game where everything was spread out.

I don't think you're seeing it as spread out as it used to be. And then you take all the things that are going on off the field with salary caps, NIL, in terms of, you know, the way you structure your staff, unlimited coaches.

That's why I think you're seeing a lot more similarities. Oh, and then also the playoffs. I mean, that's different. When you go to the playoffs now, you have to be playing your best football at the end of the season. Where in the past, when it was just a 14 playoff or even before that, that was a whole different dynamic. Well, that was fun to watch. I got to tell you that.

It's 16 news. I think you have 16 new starters, don't you? Was it 16? Yeah, yeah. Last year when we finished the season, I think it was just under 700 starts with the 22 that started, like under their belt. I think going into this game, we were under 200. So it was significant. Yeah.

Hey, congrats. That was fun. It's always fun to win, but that was really fun. That was a big stage, coach. Congrats. Well, it was good for college football. You know, open up the season like that. The stadium, the atmosphere was tremendous.

Unbelievable. All the big dogs delivered. Ryan Day, Ohio State. Congratulate. Oh, by the way, Julian's saying one more question. Because he's a young kid. And I'd only watched him on YouTube. I thought, you know, I love the quarterback position.

The feet, the mechanics. What was your takeaway when it was over? When you're walking back to the locker room, you put your arm around him, what do you say about his opening performance? I think the first thing is when you have young quarterbacks, you ask them, what did you see? And when they can come over and tell you what they saw, and then you watch the iPad after that drive,

and it is exactly what he saw. That's a heck of it. That's a great start. Like you said, I thought his feet moved well. I thought he was accurate with the ball. he made a couple off-scheduled plays and then he threw the ball away and took care of what we needed to. Again, all good starts.

Long way to go, but we could work with that. Thanks, Ryan. Appreciate it. You got to call. And take care, man. Yeah, by the way, of all the young quarterbacks, I would say Julian Sand, now he was at home, but I thought he looked really comfortable. I thought C.J. Carr for Notre Dame had some moments. He made a throwout in the flat with a Miami hurricane standing there

that eventually got bounced around and intercepted. Garrett Nussmeyer, again, a lot of snaps. He looked good. So experience matters. I thought last night, Hoover, the quarterback for TCU, goes on the road. He's a third-year starter. I don't think he's a great NFL prospect. He's got a lot of snaps of familiar coaching staff.

So I thought Julian San, in a way it benefited him, the whole discussion was Arch Manning, and he could just go out and play with a more experienced old line. And I thought he looked really comfortable. Not to be negative, but who was more disappointing? Cade Clubnick or Archmanning? Because Cade Clubnick's been around the block. And for him to just do nothing.

I mean, he missing guys wide open. I thought Garrett Nussmeyer had. I thought he was excellent. He looks like a pro. Now, we know the lineage, obviously he's good. Albert Breers hyped him up. But Clubnick was just extremely disappointing, Colin. I'll say this.

Carson Bex looks like a totally different. player. For the record, Mario Cristobal, Miami's coach is an offensive line guy. Miami is built an whole line. That is Penn State and Miami may have the two best O lines in the country because Notre Dame, they're four-man, they're four-down linemen. They didn't get any rush. Carson Bex was totally in a groove. One other thing on Arch, I totally missed this. I don't remember anybody talking about this. They lost Golden to the draft and Bond to the draft. Two great receivers. Remember when Beck at Georgia lost Brock Bowers and Ladd-McConkie

came back and was like, oh, what is this? That maybe hurt Archmanning and I didn't really play that in in the preseason. Also, four new offensive linemen, cohesion, that's a tough unit on the road. I mean, go look at Texas' schedule. Three blowout wins coming. Yes. They got some confidence

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