The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 1 - Brock Purdy is a good QB

Episode Date: November 24, 2023

Jonas Knox in for Colin   Brock Purdy continues to prove he isn't a system QB The Cowboys had no problem against the Commanders The Lions turned into the Lions on ThanksgivingSee omnystudio.com/liste...ner for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:04 You can hang out with us on Fox Sports Radio. You can also find us on the I-Heart Radio app. It's going to be a three-hour extravaganza here on a Black Friday. Thanks for making it and making us a party your Black Friday here. As many of you are going around shopping, doing whatever the hell you need to do, as we get ready for a first in the NFL, an actual football, game on a Black Friday here to celebrate the holiday weekend. So I was watching the 49er Seahawks game last night, as many of you were,
Starting point is 00:02:34 and something became increasingly obvious to me that people just don't like to be wrong. They just don't. They don't like it. And I don't know if this is just a sports thing. I'm sure it goes on in politics. I don't know because I don't care. I don't watch politics. I don't listen to it.
Starting point is 00:02:51 It's not my thing. but when it comes to sports when there's these certain issues that pop up it's very obvious that people really hold on to their opinion and their take so much so that they don't want to be wrong because I'm watching the 49ers and I'm looking at it going I mean they sure seem pretty good and Brock Purdy sure seems pretty good
Starting point is 00:03:15 and I'm thinking this was the same team who people were panicking over and doing victory laps because Brock Purdy had struggled and they were struggling. And that was happening just a couple of weeks ago. And yet here we are and they're playing on a short week on the road in a tough place, in a divisional game, and they absolutely sought off the Seattle Seahawks for four quarters and three hours of football last night. and it just goes to show you that people just don't want to be wrong
Starting point is 00:03:54 because there were so many people out there when Brock Purdy was struggling just for those three games and keep in mind he might have had a concussion or multiple concussions depending on which Twitter doctor you believe in but you're watching Brock Purdy struggle and people were so ready to say see told you he's not the guy the 49ers aren't going anywhere with Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:04:20 He's been exposed. He's lost three games and he struggled and he threw interceptions. It's like, okay, so he struggled a little bit and we're just going to get ready to forget all the other games before that, all the other success he had. I'm going to forget all about that stuff. We're just going to focus on these three games and that's going to be our takeaway when it comes to Brock Purdy. Okay. And then they come off the bottom. and they've been fantastic
Starting point is 00:04:50 and they've been dominant and Brock Purdy looks pretty good and you're going to get the box score like Billy box score readers out there are going to go, what do you mean? He's got one touchdown and one interception. He only threw for 209 yards. It's like oh dude watch the game
Starting point is 00:05:04 like if you actually watch the game and have an honest feeling and opinion about it you watch the game and you go nah man the guy's good and he plays really well yeah but once all all those other players are gone like Christian McCaffrey when he was injured not the same player Debo Samuel Trent Wing so what do you want him to do go up to John Lynch's office knock on the
Starting point is 00:05:28 door and say hey would you trade all our good players I got something to prove like who does that so you know what I'm the fastest person in the world but I got to prove people that I can do it without one of my legs you know can we go ahead and get this surgery done immediately I just want to prove my point here like what do you want to do trade away all their good players Like, everybody tells you, work smarter, not harder. Okay, well, you know what's smart? Having really good players around you. George Kittle, that offensive line, the running game, the coaching staff, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Brock Purdy's fantastic in it. Yeah, but he's just a product of the city. Okay, dude, what do you want him to do? Go to another system? Trade me away immediately. Where would you like to go? Carolina. Send me to Carolina.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Okay. I mean, we already, you know, got. Christian, but I mean, I guess we could just swap. Okay, fine. I got to go to Carolina, where I got an owner who turns and burns on head coaches at a rapid pace, who's got a coach in Frank Reich who just got there and has already given up play calling duties once and then took them back and still it was the same result. And they've got nothing to surround the number one overall pick. But I got to prove to everybody else that I can play
Starting point is 00:06:49 because I don't want people to tell me that I'm only a product of the system. And so I'm watching Brock Purdy last night. I'm going, dude, it's just, it's okay to be wrong. There's nothing wrong with being wrong about your evaluation of Brock Purdy. Christ, the 49ers were wrong. They were wrong how many rounds?
Starting point is 00:07:12 Almost all of them. That's why he was sitting there as the last pick of the draft. Like there's nothing. It's fair story. This perfect, perfect example of this. All right. And I've told this story before here on the air. Full disclosure.
Starting point is 00:07:26 The Super Bowl between the Broncos and the Seahawks. All right. If you want a lesson on how to take your L's and be wrong about something, in that Super Bowl, you remember the one at MetLife Stadium? The NFL thought it was a great idea to play a Super Bowl outdoors in a cold weather environment. And then there was like,
Starting point is 00:07:46 17 inches of snow the next day. They just dodged a bullet completely. I was 1 and 17 in my picks for that Super Bowl. Now, you're probably thinking, well, how are you won in 17? You make one pick for the Super Bowl before the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:08:07 and so you got it wrong. Big deal. Where do you get 18 total picks? Well, when you venture down the path of being a degenerate gambler, this is what happens. Not only do you pick the Denver Broncos, which I did, and I was convinced Denver was going to win that game, when the game starts and a snap goes over Peyton Manning's head and there's like a safety and a bunch of other things, you just double down and triple down and quadruple down until you've made 18 wagers and you've won one of them. Live bets. First quarter,
Starting point is 00:08:39 second quarter, second half, fourth quarter total, point spreads, you name it. You name it. I was atrocious. I got dismantled. If I was married at that time, 100% chance I would have been divorced the next day. And not even because of the degenerate gambling, but because she would be disgusted at all the losing. And then she would question why I was on my phone
Starting point is 00:09:06 and so frustrated with what was happening on my phone so much. Like, the optics of that are you're having an affair. And you're not liking the picture. you just got in return. So now you're trying to figure out a way and navigate the waters to get a better pick sent over. That's how that would have gone. But it's okay.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I own it. I accept it. Next Super Bowl came back. Probably lost some more. But the point is, it's all right to be wrong. You don't got to hold on to it like a hostage. You're not robbing a bank. And you watch Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:09:42 You watch the 49ers. I'm like, where was all the outrage for this? guy. They're great. He played really well. He's a really good quarterback in that system, whatever. I don't know if you want to hold that argument. You can hold on to it as long as you want. But the Niners are good. Brock Purdy's good. They're fine. And if you don't see it by now, you might be an idiot. Sorry, but that's just the reality of the situation. Jonas Knox here, Fox Sports Radio, in for Colin Coward on the herd. All right. So I do have to to point this out. Speaking of Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:10:17 picks, the Dallas Cowboys were my Super Bowl pick. Now, I'm not going to sit here and celebrate on the air following that game against the Washington commanders and try and use that
Starting point is 00:10:33 as a catapult for a look what I am, I picked the Cowboys, and they look like a great football team. I'm not going to do that. As you've just heard, I am fully aware of my flaws, and I will expose them here on the air
Starting point is 00:10:49 and have no issues doing it. But I'm watching the Dallas Cowboys, and a bunch of teams came to mine, and I want to list these teams off to you. And I want you to tell me what all of these teams have in common. Because there's two things that all these teams have in common.
Starting point is 00:11:06 All right, so I'm going to list these off for you. The Giants, the Jets, the Patriots, the Chargers, the Rams, the Panthers and the commanders. They all have something in common. They have two things in common. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Number one, they're all bad. Okay. Now, a couple of those teams are like four and six, but four and six means you're probably not going to the playoffs. So by definition, for the sake of this take, that's a bad football team. So all of those teams that I just ratted off are bad. Giants, jets, chargers, rams,
Starting point is 00:11:52 Panthers, commanders, they're all bad. You know what the second thing is they have in common? Those are all the teams that the Cowboys have beaten. Okay? So as much as I want to sit here and try and gloat, and as much as I want to sit here and say, hey, man, I feel great about my Super Bowl pick. I feel great that I had the Dallas Cowboys go to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Did you see what they did to Washington? When you go through the listed teams of Dallas is beating this year. Sometimes you just got to be honest about things. You just got to be truthful. They're not really beating very good football teams. It's like, well, yeah, but they've only got three losses on the year. Okay, but those were two so far, the Niners and the Eagles, who are good,
Starting point is 00:12:38 and then inexplicably the Arizona Cardinals. Somehow they lost to Arizona. How that happened, I have no idea. Somehow the Dallas Cowboys lost to the Arizona Cardinals. So we can, and you're hearing the DAC for MVP, you're hearing, the fact of the matter is the Dallas Cowboys have not beaten anybody yet. And so we could have the conversation about, well, no, but this is a different Dallas team. Look, I want them to be different. Do you think I'd like losing that many bets in the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 00:13:12 Do you think I'm proud of that? Like, do you think when my son gets old enough, I'm going to tell him about all my kids? gambling experiences, and that's going to be a proud moment for me. No, I want to get something right. I would like that to happen. I would like for the Dallas Cowboys to win a Super Bowl. Do you know the chaos that would ensue? You know how many cowboy haters there are out there?
Starting point is 00:13:35 It would be tremendous to dance on some graves, to say you called your shot, and I just, you can't do it. You come away from that game and you go, man, Dallas did what Dallas does. they beat a bad football team. Washington stinks. They just do. And Dallas did exactly what they should have done. It was Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:14:00 It was national TV. You had everybody watching. They jumped in a Salvation Army bucket and pulled out some turkey legs wrapped in foil. Which, by the way, overrated snack at a carnival. It looks really cool. It's like one of those big goofy souvenir cups you get in Vegas. Like you're walking around and you've got an Eiffel Tower with a guitar strap wrapped around you
Starting point is 00:14:24 and you're drinking a cocktail in the middle of the day. It's like, hey, man, this is a great idea. And then you're halfway through it and you go, it's watered down. I can't see straight. I feel like a cyclops. I nearly got run over by a lift. Like, it's not a great idea. Look, I would like to sit here and tell you, hey, man, like, you don't, the Cowboys,
Starting point is 00:14:47 after yesterday? Like, that's fun. Cowboys won in a Super Bowl. Great story. Mike McCarthy won in a second Super Bowl. You know, we haven't seen it very many times with the coach. He's won a second Super Bowl with another team. And Dak finally proves all the haters wrong and blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Do you feel bad for his? All that stuff being said, I would love for that to happen. But nothing from yesterday in that game tells me the Cowboys are any different than what they've been against. all of those other awful teams that we just listed off. It still comes down to, can you beat Philly? Can you beat San Francisco? We're going to find out in a couple of weeks on Philly,
Starting point is 00:15:28 and if we get to the playoffs again, can you beat the Niners? And I don't know if you've seen how that's gone lately. It hadn't gone real well for the Dallas Cowboys. Jonas Knox in for Colin Cowher. This is The Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. And again, you can always find this show on the IHeart Radio app. You can get me on Twitter or X, whatever the you want to call it at the Jonas Knox, at the Jonas Knox on Twitter is where you can find me
Starting point is 00:15:51 there. We are going to have some fun stuff coming up later on today. We're going to have, look, I mean, we've got heard line news. We're going to have the usuals, all right? That's going to be a fun little topic of conversation. We're going to wrap up the show with tomorrow's headlines today with the great Robert Guerra who's in with us. Alex Tysher is here with us. And hopefully you will be here with us here for the next couple of hours here on FSR. All right. I got a great parlay for you this weekend, thanks to Draft King Sportsbook. New users, sign up, use the code, H-E-R-D, download the app. A lot of fun. Now for my parlay pick of the week via Draft King Sportsbook. Jake Browning is good enough to run the offense. I'll take the Bengals at home plus one over the Steelers. Offense for Pittsburgh can't
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Starting point is 00:19:57 We're going to get the very latest on panic in the NFL. It is the latest example of panic in the National Football League based on a move that was just made a short time ago. We'll get into that for you again, a little over 10 minutes from now here on the herd. So this is just, and I'm not trying to be cruel about this. All right. So just indulge my sixth sense of humor here. Right. And for those of you that have listened to me over the years, I, you know, here, whether it's on weekend overnight, Saturdays with Brady Quinn and LeVar Erington on two pros and a cup of Joe on the mornings, there are certain things that I do find funny that maybe at the time a fan base may not find funny.
Starting point is 00:20:41 They might get a little offended by it, might get a little disturbed by it, you know, why you pick it on us. It's nothing to laugh about. But there just is something funny about the fact that for years, there have been people that were pounding the table. We've got to get the lions off Thanksgiving. Okay. They got to go.
Starting point is 00:21:04 we're tired of it it puts us in a bad mood it's my escape from my family I don't like half these people to begin with the food they cook sucks you got to get me away from this family and give me at least three to three hours and 15 minutes of enjoyable football
Starting point is 00:21:25 and an excuse not to be around these hooligans that I share a last name with you got to put a better team on We get the tradition. The Cowboys are fine, but it's the Lions. And we don't want to hear about what the night game is because people are probably half in the bag at that point anyways,
Starting point is 00:21:46 and if they're not, they're in a food coma. Either that or they're trying to get out the Christmas decorations as like an indicator to the misses or to the rest of the family, like, hey, I got to put these lights up tomorrow. So no, I can't go to the mall with you. I got to put these. up. All right? Just let everybody know. It's like a flare gun into the sky.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I'm not going out on Black Friday. Right? It's not happening. So like, there were people that were really against the Detroit Lions getting an opportunity on Thanksgiving year after year. Didn't like it. We're talking a winless team.
Starting point is 00:22:24 But there had been hope because they had lost six straight games on Thanksgiving. And so it was finally all the people that wanted to keep with the tradition. We're saying, you know what? Screw you guys. This is our year. This Lions team is different. You saw what they did to the Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium to open up the season. And we're going to show you why the Detroit Lions deserve to be on Thanksgiving
Starting point is 00:22:51 and why it's a brand new era and why you don't give up on us so fast. We're going to show you. And then the Lions go out and get knifed on national TV by the Green Bay Packers. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. Seven straight games they've lost on Thanksgiving. You could have sworn you talked to any Lions fan. You talk to anybody that covers the NFL. No, it's a different team.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Things have changed around here. And look, nobody has been more supportive of the Detroit Lions and Dan Campbell on radio than I have been. Nobody. I love what they got going on there. many things to like about the Detroit Lions. Dan Campbell, you remember he, like, he rolled in, he was talking about biting kneecaps. He was wearing like a race car helmet.
Starting point is 00:23:46 People were like, oh, God, here we go. This is like when Joe Judge was doing, you know, like mud angels. You know, they're like not snow angels, but he's playing around in the mud at training camp because they got a downpour in New York or something like that. Like, remember that? Like, there was, oh, my God, Joe Judge has got these guys doing Oklahoma drills and bowling the ring and all. just too, way too goofy for us. We don't want anything to do with this.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Dan Campbell was that guy and everybody assumed it wasn't going to work. They just assumed. It's not going to work. And slowly, they've just built up this team. And they've got, there are great storylines with the Detroit Lions all throughout. Not even just as an organization, Dan Campbell getting an opportunity, them sticking by him. You know, him talking about, you know, the kind of coffee he drinks. Why is he so wired?
Starting point is 00:24:35 his coffee order and you go, okay, well, he has two of those a day. Now I get it. Now it makes sense. But you're talking about, like, Jared Goff, he was, like, he was cast aside, like Sean McVeigh and the organization basically blamed him. And trust me, out here in Southern California, that was happening. I live in Thousand Oaks. That's where the Rams practice. That's where the facility is for the time being. And then they go to go to Woodland Hills, have fun dealing with Calabasasas traffic. That'll be fun. But, like, Jared Gough was the fall guy there. That was the guy that had to go so much so that they wouldn't even start him.
Starting point is 00:25:14 He was ready to play, but they wouldn't start him in a playoff game at Seattle. They started John Wofford, who looks like Gary Oldman. I swear to God, look up John Wofford. He looks like Gary Oldman. Look that guy up, put his picture side by side next to the pimp from True Romance and tell me that's, I mean, come on, it's the same guy. But Jared Gough had to go. So he goes to Detroit. and they lost a bunch early on, but he started playing better and started playing better.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Next thing you know, they start stacking wins. They start drafting really well. They bring back all of these former players like Chris Spielman. Like the way that they built, like I love everything about it. I love that they were featured as the first game of the year. I'm one of those people who said, don't get rid of the lions. Whatever you do, don't get rid of the lions on Thanksgiving. It is a tradition.
Starting point is 00:26:01 It's what we grew up with. they deserve to be there. Nobody has been more supportive of the Detroit Lions and the need for them to stay with tradition and be on Turkey Day every single Turkey Day. Nobody's been more supportive. I don't care that they're losing. If you don't like your family that much
Starting point is 00:26:19 that you need an escape and you need a decent football team to get away from them, you got bigger issues. Okay, those are conversations you've got to have. You need to, like, do it. Nobody has been more supportive of the Detroit Lions love everything about them. But it is hilarious that all we were hearing about
Starting point is 00:26:38 was how things are different. No, I swear, this time's going to be different. It's like dating an alcoholic. They tell you, hey, you know what? Things have changed. I'm sober. Giving up the booze. Not going to happen anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:52 You got nothing to worry about. Oh, man. About time, but yeah. And all of a sudden, you you go to brush your teeth and there's like pop off in a scope bottle under the sink. You're like, huh. You know, like, yeah, sorry. Yeah, I just, you know, but this next time it's going to be different, okay?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Like I promise you this, I mean it this time, no more, okay? Change man, we are a changed franchise, changed organization. right? Things are going to be different, and then they go out and get stomped out by the Green Bay Packers, and you can look at the final score all you want and say, well, it was kind of close. No, it wasn't. Jared Goff got outplayed again for a second week in a row by the opposite quarterback. Last week it was Justin Fields. This week it was Jordan Love. And Jordan Love looked great, and the Packers looked fantastic. But I'm looking at this game, and like, fans, you're booing him.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And you're probably thinking to do something like, God, how can they boo this team? They're finally selling out Ford Field. People are finally going to these games. They finally got a decent product on the field. How could you boo this team? How? What do you?
Starting point is 00:28:12 It's just seven straight years. Those people have given up a holiday for almost a decade. And what do the Lions do? Lose every time. What do you mean? How? Like, of course they're booing.
Starting point is 00:28:29 You got their hopes up. No, it's going to be different this time. I promise you. It's completely different. I'm not the same guy I used to be. Okay. Well, um, how come there's Jack Daniels in the flower vase?
Starting point is 00:28:45 What, uh, what's that about? I don't know. Uh, could have been the neighbor. Uh, but I don't, a leak, uh, maybe like, uh, their bottle, like spilled over the, the balcony above us. huh we're on the first we're on the top floor though like we're not down well you know crazy stuff happens maybe an owl picked it up from one of the other neighbor's house and he happened to drop it he thought it was a cat he grabbed oh that's jd drop down i don't listen i know it to tell you
Starting point is 00:29:10 like it's just if you can't find the comedy in that that the lion swore to everybody up and down and the lion's fan base swore to everybody up and down this time's going to be different and they go out there and get carved up Sorry. It is hilarious. Now, they're going to win the division, so don't worry about it. They're going to go to the playoffs, so don't even worry about it. And because they won the division, they're going to get a home playoff game. You would assume that's how this, you know, the Lions are going to get that home playoff game because they wouldn't win the division.
Starting point is 00:29:42 So all of that is fine. But it still doesn't mean we could ignore the fact that this team went out and got butchered for a seventh straight year on Thanksgiving. and this in the year, when they opened up the season with a win over the defending Super Bowl champions and everybody swore up and down, it's going to be different. We promise it's a different Lions team. It's a different era. You just watch.
Starting point is 00:30:09 What we did, and you got annihilated. That's what we watched for a seventh straight year. And on the way up, we're going to buy it a kneecap off. Whatever you got to do. Listen. And by the way, why is he stealing Dahmer's lines? You ever notice that? Like a little insulting here.
Starting point is 00:30:26 All right, I'm just saying. It's like copyright infringement or something like that. Anyways. All right, Jonas Knox. In for Colin, this is The Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. And now we turn it over to Robert Geda with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news.
Starting point is 00:30:45 This is the Herdline News. Big Show Bob. That's right. We're doing it, baby. The Mexicans are taking over the herd. That's right. Shout out to my guy Jason McIntyre. I told him I'll be filling in for him today
Starting point is 00:30:58 because you all I do the podcast with him every night for the volume. And his only note to me was smile and nod at whatever the host says. Things will go well. Well, I mean, you're not a Lions fan, so you should have gotten through that last piece. Lions were terrible. Yeah, that was not good.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Well, Jonas, got to get into this one first. Before the show started, we want to do it for the real show. We're like, you know what? This team's terrible. They don't really deserve a full segment. But Jack Dalrio was fired as the Washington Commander's defensive coordinator early on Black Friday.
Starting point is 00:31:29 That's because the Commander's defense currently ranks last in the NFL in points allowed and 29th in yards allowed, making things worse. They've allowed a league high, 49 pass plays of 20 or more yarder. Here's the best part. According to ESPN, at least,
Starting point is 00:31:45 the reason he was fired was at the recommendation of head coach Ron Rivera. Okay. That wasn't Ron's fault that the defense is terrible. Or the office isn't that great. So don't fire me, fire him. Well, yeah, but that's Eric Bianamy.
Starting point is 00:32:00 You can't complain about him. You got to be careful. You got to be careful with that. All right, everybody, just be careful. Let's slow down here. All right, you got to be, you got to watch what you say when it comes to certain people in the NFL. I wonder if part of this was Ron Rivera pulled Jack Del Rio aside, because I'm assuming they're close. I'm assuming they're friends.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I wonder if Ron Rivera pulled Jack Del Rio aside and said, hey, dude, we're all gone at the end of the year. Why don't you go enjoy the holidays? or the family. You know what I mean? Like, we're going to do it. Like, can you just go? It's like somebody waiting to break up with you. Look, can I, can you just do it now so I can at least go see what my options are?
Starting point is 00:32:37 Like, don't wait until the bar is closed. Like, if you're going to dump me, don't wait until after dinner and drinks and everything else. Like, do it when we're just kind of sitting down so I can at least see, okay, what's, what's the waitress look like? I'm out of work. Whatever. Whatever we need here.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I just wonder if part of that was he pulled him aside just. Dude, we're all gone. Just, it's okay. And if it's not that, then Ron Rivera's probably like, I got like a month and a half or so to try and prove that I should be the guy here. And ultimately, I think he's probably going to end up getting canned anyways, which I hate that. I don't like anybody losing their job in any industry periods.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I'm never one of those. They should be fired. Like, who does that a lot? Oh, like, Rob Parker. That's right. You know, like, I would never be one of those guys who are, he should be fired. But I look at it and I go, he's probably going to be gone at the end of this year.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And I just, you know, why wait? Get it out of the way early. Do him a solid. Go spend the holidays with the folks and the family and all that stuff. Well, Jonas, I know you never missed the odd couple weeknights, Fox Sports Radio 7.10 p.m. Easter. I mean, I never listen, so I never miss that. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Because if you didn't miss Wednesday's episode, Rob Parker let it be known that he has been fired more times than he can count on two hands. Yeah, but that was all self-inflosion. Wow. You know, like he nearly ruined first take. I mean, it was so bad. We had to have a distinction. Like, if your contract's not renewed, is that still getting fired or is just not renewed?
Starting point is 00:34:04 He's like, no, we had to count that as a firing. Okay. Like, we had to really delineate what the situation was. That's how many times he was fired. You got to brag about, like, I don't know, listen, anytime I've ever lost my job, it's because I just wasn't very good. Like, I'll be truthful with you. Like, I just wasn't good, you know?
Starting point is 00:34:21 Like, I got fired. I was a waiter at a retirement. home got fired. How is that possible? They can't be that needy. Well, and everybody has the same order, but I just didn't like the way I was being talked to by, and you know me.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Robert will work together a long time. I can only keep my mouth shut for a certain amount of time and I'm like, I just can't handle this anymore. So that didn't go well. But, I mean, I just wasn't very good. You know, it just wasn't a very good waiter at a retirement home, but it happens. But don't worry. I figured out like busing tables at Friday, and Chucky Cheese and all that other stuff. Figured all that out.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I love the Jackie Cheese story. I got fired another time. My brother was anybody that lives in Southern California will know. This is a true story. There was a Mexican restaurant. Who knew? Mexican restaurant named Cisco's in Westlake Village, California. It's no longer there.
Starting point is 00:35:14 But I was a bus boy there. My brother was the bar manager. That's how I got the job. So, I mean, I went all in. I got Hawaiian shirts and white jeans. Wow. That was the work attire. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And my brother fired me because I told him that I was looking for another job that I could do that would be more manageable, like as far as hours and stuff like that. And he said, no, no, no, you're going to put in your two weeks. I was like, well, yeah, of course I'm going to put in my two weeks. And he said, we were at home in front of my mom. Oh, no. And he said, no, no, I don't think you hear me. You got to put in your two. I was like, well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I mean, if I, man, if I wanted to quit, I could just quit right now. I'm not going to, no, no, no, you can't quit right now because you're fired and literally fired me. Wow. And I took off my apron and I threw it down. And then I picked it back out because I think I had to work later on that. The point is, I still got fired. I just didn't want to put him in a bad spot. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Well, we got time for one more here quickly. Michigan, Ohio State, obviously, the big game of the weekend. And it had been reported months ago that the NFL would not be used as a, you know, safe haven for Jim Harbaugh should he faze real punishment from the NCAA for this science ceiling scandal. And now Fox is Jay Glazers reporting that the investigation actually will not impact the way NFL team view him in any way. shape or fashion. If he's interested, they're interested. Your thoughts on Harbaugh going back to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:36:28 So you mean somebody who might have like a sketchy background, the NFL's going to look the other way if they're really good at what they do? No kidding. God, no kidding. Like, huh, where have I heard that before? Oh, that $230 million contract that the Browns gave that weirdo Deshawn Watson.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Oh, geez. Who knew that they were going to look the other way if somebody's really good? Jim Harba is a great coach. Like, period. He's a great coach. And everywhere he goes, it works. It worked in college. It worked in the NFL. Then he went back to college. It worked at Michigan. He's put them back on the map. They're a legitimate contender for another year in a row. Of course. And it felt like Jim Harbaugh was going to be leaving anyways. It felt like, look, if Minnesota had offered him the gig and said, if, you know, Adolfa Men said
Starting point is 00:37:15 offered him the job, the GM for the Vikings and said, hey, man, like this job is yours. Harbao would have taken the job right then. But when it was, he got to and finally realize when he got there, okay, well, they're not really, this isn't really a job offer. They're just talking to me. Then he went back to Michigan. They got the contract sorted out. But yeah, I mean, I look at, and there's going to be
Starting point is 00:37:34 a ton of options. Chicago's going to be one. Because he played there, they drafted him. He's told people he would love an opportunity to coach the Bears. They don't know how to hire coaches there anyway, so. Yeah, yeah, of course. And the Chargers is another possibility. They also
Starting point is 00:37:50 do not know how to hire coaches. And Brandon Staley, you know, for anybody that knows the Brandon Staley story, everybody wants them gone, everybody. And if you ask him questions about calling plays on defense, he's not happy about it. So Brandon Staley could be another possibility. If the Washington job opens up, maybe they'll throw a ton of money at them. They got a new owner there. But I just, there's going to be options.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I think these are the final days of Jim Harbaugh as a coach at Michigan. and appropriately or not appropriately, he doesn't get to be on the sidelines with this team. It's a sad tale. It is a sad tale. I mean, when you were, what was this, 11 and 8 the last two seasons before this stealing started? You know, desperate times, call for desperate measures.
Starting point is 00:38:33 What are you getting at there? What are you doing? Maybe he's not a great coach. Maybe he's just, you know, got an upper hand on the rest of the competition. How dare you? That was Robert Gierre with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Lordline news. It's Jonas Knox. In for Colin Coward. This is The Hurd here on Fox Sports Radio. And again, you can always listen to this show on the I-Heart Radio app. But coming up next here, there is a move that the NFL has made that is an indicator of their brilliance. Tell you what that is next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app.
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Starting point is 00:42:47 So that'll be happening here. We'll get into that for you a little over 10 minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio. So the NFL is doing something that's brilliant. And it's Black Friday football. Now, first of all, the fact that it's on Amazon Prime and you don't need an account or subscription rather to watch the game. You can just watch it. And it's not the greatest matchup in the world. It's the dolphins and the jets.
Starting point is 00:43:11 and the Dolphins very similarly to the Dallas Cowboys, they can beat bad teams, just like the good teams they struggle with. You know, there's some other teams in the NFL like that. But like Miami Dolphins, their schedule pretty weak. If we're being honest, their schedule's not, you kind of look at it and go, it's a little iffy. The Jets are a bit of a disaster. Alan Lazzard is now a healthy scratch.
Starting point is 00:43:34 No big deal. It's not like he signed a $40 million contract in the offseason. So again, no big deal. Not a problem at all. So the match-up's not great. But the NFL goes, all right, you know, we'll throw a game on Black Friday. See what we got. You know, why not?
Starting point is 00:43:50 Just see, we'll kind of dip our toe in the water a little bit. And for Amazon, it's great because Amazon, I think I saw that they're going to have, like, QR codes for special Black Friday sales and things like that. You know, obviously there's Cyber Monday or Cyber Week, whatever you want to call it. But, like, Amazon's going to have an opportunity to where people are going to be watching this game. And they can probably just sit there and shop with their thumbs instead of having to go deal with some of the traffic and some of the other stuff. Which I'll say this. The traffic coming in, easy peasy.
Starting point is 00:44:25 That's awesome. And if you drive around in Southern California, if you're listening to this show on the Blow Torch, AM 570 LA Sports, you know traffic. When you get a good day, you got to enjoy these days. Makes you want to sit in your car a little bit long. than the bag of crap that we're dealt with all the time. And also sidebar. And I apologize for this. But it's like when I'm driving and I see a sign,
Starting point is 00:44:52 they want to encourage people to put their seatbelts on. And I'm driving on the 101. And I see this sign that says, make sure you use your seatbelt. Do it for your family. How about do it so you don't go through the windshield? How about that? You know, why don't we maybe one of those?
Starting point is 00:45:12 How about do it so that you're not bouncing around the highway like a lost piece of luggage, you know? Like cars are trying to dodge you. How about that? I don't know. Like maybe my family. Yeah, I got a place I need to go too. So I, you know, just saying, a little piece of advice, right? Stop with the
Starting point is 00:45:30 goofy clicketer ticket stuff. All right, just talk real to people. Like, hey, you know, Caltrans has got a lot to do. They don't want to have to pick you up to. All right? So if you could just kind of just a little piece of advice. But point is, the NFL has done something brilliant.
Starting point is 00:45:49 They haven't taken over all the way, just one little piece at a time. You know, it's just, we'll do it one little piece. It's like eating a small piece of candy. Like one of the greatest inventions in the world is the half candy bar. Because the half candy bar, you don't feel like you're eating the whole thing. I'll have a little one of those. They're tiny. It's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:46:17 You know, you go to a restaurant and say, oh, listen, no tortilla for me. I'll get my taco or my burrito in a bowl. But yes, I will have chips and salsa. So, okay, well, what do you think those things are that you're dipping in salsa? But they're just chips.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Yeah. Better known as cut up tortillas. So what are we really doing here? But because you're doing it slowly, you kind of space it out a little bit, and it almost looks as if, well, we're just, this is harmless. I mean, we're not, I mean, we're not trying to take, us take over. Oh, please.
Starting point is 00:46:51 We're not trying to take over everything. Oh, you're not? No. What's with those games you got on Thanksgiving, Christmas? Just, you know, fell on the certain day of the week. Oh, okay. So that's not going to become the norm? We're not going to consider doing that moving forward.
Starting point is 00:47:08 No, we would never do that to the NBA. Oh, you wouldn't. you wouldn't because it seems like it's happening more often and now we're playing football on a Friday and now we've got multiple Monday nights where there's two games going on and we've already got the Thursday game and when COVID was around it's like okay
Starting point is 00:47:27 well I guess we could play a game on a Tuesday then I guess if we need to do we could play a game on a Wednesday I get you know who knew that we were going to go ahead and kind of take over like this this was not the plan we're just listen we're just taking no no the NFL knows exactly what to suein. It's the smartest league in sports.
Starting point is 00:47:44 When it comes to branding and marketing, they do it better than everybody else, which is part of the reason why they are what they are and where they're at, and the NFL slowly taking over another brilliant move by the National Football League. Hour 2 is next. Another podcast from some
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