The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Caleb Williams continues to improve, Bills lose to the Dolphins, Giants fire HC Brian Daboll

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

Colin dives deep into another wild NFL weekend! He breaks down how Caleb Williams continues to prove he’s the real deal, orchestrating yet another game-winning drive for the Chicago Bears—and reveals the two key traits Williams shares with other elite franchise quarterbacks He talks how  the Bills continue to waste the prime of Josh Allen Then, Colin reacts to breaking NFL news: the New York Giants fire head coach Brian Daboll. What went wrong in New York, and who should be next in line to coach QB Jaxson Dart?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. thanks for making us part of your day uh Colin right, Colin wrong plenty of both one hour from now J-MAC I woke up little icing on the cake

in Chicago put me in a mood for fall and winter so there's this one question J-Mack as we start our show today the eternal question with the Chicago Bears and the guys up north the Green Bay Packers

always have an answer and Chicago never does. The eternal question for the Chicago Bears is, why can't we figure quarterback out? I think you have. Now, ironically, it's the defense that is hurting you. So let's talk bears. Not having a spy against Jackson Dart made no sense.

The Giants don't have neighbors, scataboo, the weather was bad. How do you not have a spy against Jackson Dart? bad coordinating by Dennis Allen. But the story of the day was, again, a fourth quarter comeback, another one by Caleb Williams. And this is the thing, Jackson Darts young and athletic. But for the fourth time in seven starts, Jackson Darts in the concussion protocol tent. And Caleb never is.

Two things that have always been true about Caleb Williams. really durable, doesn't get hurt, and he doesn't throw picks. Let me add a third. He's clutch. And I don't know how to define it. I always felt this about Joe Burrell. I don't really know how to define it. I once asked Jimmy Johnson, Troy Aikman's a great leader.

Can you define it? He goes, no, not really. You just know it when you see it. And that's what clutch is. If you start looking at Caleb Williams' fourth quarter numbers in the four game winning drives, his passer rating is like $1.45. He's a better quarterback under duress trailing. He's an unbelievable game-winning drive fourth quarter quarterback.

By the way, Bowdox pretty good too, but this feels different. So his receivers were struggling. It was cold and multiple times, even on some incompletions, Caleb would roll right and show off that arm. I'm not sure, is there a better arm in the league? I think he holds the ball too long, but I think that's born out of confidence that you can't sack him with one body. You've got to get multiple people on him. He's just too big. He's just too strong. Incredibly durable. And we always talk about,

you know, quarterbacks what they can do. But a lot of success. Remember Belichick talked about Tom Brady's favorite asset? No negative plays. Always plays ahead of the sticks. And that's one of the things about Caleb Williams down. He's not taking the sacks. And he's never thrown a lot of interceptions. So he's not taking those negative plays. So much about quarterback isn't what you do. It's what you don't do. You don't run backwards and scramble and get behind the sticks. So I think it's official. He's still growing, but the Chicago Bears have their first great quarterback. They've had good ones. Rex Grossman had a couple good years. Jake Cutler was good. None of them were great. And I mean, only three penalties. So they've gotten the operational part,

which was very clunky early is for a lot of young quarterbacks. They've cleaned that up. They were three or four in the red zone. Hardest place to score. So we knew Ben Johnson early was the right fit, and now Caleb's the right fit for Ben Johnson, slowly working together. So you watch the bear's offense.

Head coach, quarterback, weapons, red zone efficiency. This is what Green Bay has been doing, you know, about an hour train right up north for 30 plus years. Now Green Bay is trying to solve their, offense and Chicago's got their solve. So again, fourth quarter rallies, it doesn't matter what it looks like. Listen, it's cold, it's windy. I think Chicago bear receivers had six drops.

I mean, he throws hard. John Elway's wide receivers used to complain about this. Like Caleb, he's got a cannon. He throws hard. And sometimes, you know, guys are going to drop it. But don't worry about the aesthetic and the optics. Fourth quarter, they won. That's all that mattered.

And here was Ben Johnson with his star quarterback after the game. Let me tell you something now. This next guy, man, he's got ice in his veins, God. And if you don't believe it now, you can just wait, man. The best is yet to come 18. Here we go. Just keeps getting a little better. The operation stuff now took a few weeks.

Accuracy stuff. A lot of it was drops yesterday. when he rolled out right, threw a ball to the end zone that was out of bound. DJ Moore couldn't get his feet down. That was 40 yards on a line. As they say, you could hang laundry on that thing. It was just 40 yards, a line drive off the arm of Caleb Williams. You were like, okay, that doesn't look like almost anybody else in the league.

I'm not sure Mahomes has that and that win. So he is a special talent. Okay. I've been on this for a long time. I prefer offensive coaches, especially with, young quarterbacks. As you're learning the game, Sean Payton, Andy Reed, I think it's really valuable. Now, now, you don't have to have that. Mike Brable, defensive guy, right? Drake May is flourishing, but Josh McDaniel, great coordinator. But I'm watching Buffalo. I got nothing

against Sean McDermott. But the bills are two and three in their last five games. Blowout loss to Miami and lost to Atlanta. Right now, they have the same amount of wins as San Francisco that's running out of players and only one more than Carolina. And here's my thing with Sean McDermott. Something's always leaking and it takes them an entire offseason to figure it out. You don't have an off season. You're wasting Josh Allen's prime. The running game took years to solve.

Now the passing game. I have to wait until next year to solve it. I mean, Justin Herbert doesn't have his tackles or his number one running back. and Jim Harbaugh's got him in a three-game winning streak. Their offensive line is atrocious. Three-game winning streak. San Francisco has Mack Jones quarterbacking. The receivers aren't healthy.

Where's I-Uk? Where's Ricky Pearson? Mac Jones yesterday went 33 and 39. Buffalo has been mostly healthy. Schedule 30 easiest in the league. And yet they have one win over a team of the winning record. So in their three losses, they've averaged 15 points. With Josh Allen and James Cook, how is that possible?

And that's my knock on defensive head coaches. They can't solve offensive issues in season. They need their GM to solve it, cross their fingers hopefully in the offseason. Andy Reed offensive line solves it in season. Sean McVeigh, running back, receiver, Pooka's hurt. Pookas hurt? What do they do? Four tight ends in London against the Jags. Offensive coaches can solve problems with their unit and their young quarterback, and they can do it in a week or two. Running game for Buffalo took forever to solve. The GM finally had to solve it. The passing game now,

it can't take this long to solve stuff with James Cook and Josh Allen. I mean, John Elway had a good coach in Dan Reeves. He needed a better one in Mike Shanahan. I mean, I got nothing against McDermott, but watch the league. As you get into this time, I mean, Justin Herbert is working with backup everything on the offensive line, number three running back, forgettable tight ends. Does he have a number one receiver, and they're in a three-game winning streak? You just have to solve stuff. Right?

You've got to be a fix-it guy. You know, that's what you've got to do. That's what Shanahan could do, and Dan Reeves couldn't. I mean, Mike Vrabel right now, second year quarterback, no number one receiver, running back by committee, although I like Trayvion Henderson, wish he'd play more. Tight ends are okay. Offensive lines solid, and they're on a seven-game winning streak. Sean Payton's on a seven-game winning streak with Bo Nix.

Bo Nix is having a horrible year. Okay. So my take is these offensive guys, you just can't go on losing streaks. You can't lose to Miami and trail 60-0 at half when you have Josh Allen. Can't do it. And Sean McDermott, I just think, Josh, at this point, I've seen enough. They'll make the playoffs. They'll be fine.

No, England's already better. No, England's won seven straight games. They got to Tampa and control the game. They went to Buffalo and control the bills. Here's McDermott after. We do need to look, continue to turn over every stone to figure out why this is happening. I feel like it's happened quite a bit year to year. This year is probably as much as I've been around.

So, you know, I don't know if it's, I don't know what it is. I really don't. So, but we've got to figure that piece out pretty quickly here. So much of coaching is not having the answers. It's finding them. It's solving the problems in season, week to week, moving pieces. and I mean it's not all offense yesterday the defense looked tired gasped maybe it was the heat it's I'm just watching teams like Denver which is getting subpar up quarterback play

I'm watching the chargers who have may have the worst offensive line in three years and they just keep winning how is Justin Herbert that much better than Josh Allen how's Vrable doing it they don't have a number one receiver running back by committee. O line solid. Schedule's tough. And they just keep going on the road. Buffalo, Tampa, off by Tampa, and winning. I think it's time. I think you can't have to solve every issue in the offseason. It doesn't work that way. I don't care if you're running a TV network, a TV show, or a football TV. I can't have an off season to solve every problem. All right, J. Matt, Colin Wright, Colin wrong. I took one underdog all weekend.

And it was Pittsburgh last night. And I got to tell you, Aaron looked old. Oh, really? Oh, really? Trying to elude Khalil Mack in the end zone? Look like an old guy falling down the stairs. That was brutal for Aaron Rogers.

I mean, that was until that garbage time touchdown, Colin, that was trending like one of the worst games of his NFL career. Yeah. That's how bad he was. That's your guy, Aaron Rogers. Still out of winning, Blazing Five, but that hurt. I went to bed unsettled. Let's just say that.

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So I'm watching the Chargers and the Steelers last night and I've come to the conclusion. It took me 10 weeks. But I have figured out every NFL team. Contenders, pretenders, haves, have-nots. I figured out every NFL team in 10 weeks, except the Pittsburgh Steelers. They hammer the Patriots. They hammer the Colts. and get beat by the Bengals and have now been hammered by Green Bay, the Chargers in Seattle. Week to week, I have no idea what I'm getting. None. I know Aaron looked old and like he didn't want to get hit last night,

but some of it is I don't blame him. Roman Wilson and D.K. Matcalf is not a receiving corps. That's why I've defended Aaron throwing to the tight ends all year long, because that's what they have. I mean, one of their tight ends, I think he's going to get converted to a tax. tackle, but he can catch enough so they can throw it to him. That's what they have. They have a running back they drafted.

Roman Wilson. By the way, Jim Harbaugh, Roman Wilson, J.J. McCarthy, Blake Corum. We thought they were stars in college. No, the coach was. But, I mean, to me, it's a bad sign as a franchise. You have no idea what you're getting half to half in week to week. No idea. They're the only team in the league to me that's completely unsolvable.

And here's all I can come up with. they're the second oldest team in the NFL and they're aging like milk not wine and as the season goes on they look old second half they look tired Seattle is young every week Seattle looks fast and physical they're growing they're ascending Pittsburgh looks old and tired it's like the Steelers are having a midlife crisis every other week fifth straight game Aaron Rogers passer rating has gone down And so this has been, I mean, listen, we all know the Steelers' GPS is going to steer them back to 500. That's what it always does, right? They're going to be eight, nine or nine or eight, probably the latter.

But this team last year, remember, last year the Steelers got off to a hot start with an old quarterback. Then the old quarterback and the team faded. This year, they got off to a hot start with an old quarterback. And the old quarterback and the team is faded. and now it's November. And in November, the weather gets cold and you've got to run the football. Oh, wait, they can't. And they won't be able to solve it in season.

This is another defensive coach. So it's Groundhog Day. You know, I'm watching last night, and I'm like, I don't know what I get with Pittsburgh. They're all over the map. And Buffalo, I usually know what I'm getting. They'll have a stinker here there. And I think Josh Allen deserves an elite coach. Steelers aren't moving off Mike Tomlin,

but it's an old roster, and old people, old roster, fall down the stairs more, get hurt more, longer to heal? What else can I say? Here's Aaron after. Yeah, I expect to play great every single week, and this was not my best performance.

I got to play better in this for us to win. Whatever it takes, I've got to make a, you know, if it's better checks, if it's better throws, whatever it is, I got to play better. They don't really have a downfield, passing attack. They don't. It's tight ends and D.K. Matcalfe. That's what they have. And they can't run.

So it's up to Aaron to solve it because Tomlin won't and can't. So they can't run it. It's getting cold. They don't have a downfield attack. That's why I've defended Aaron all year. They're thrown to the right people. Friamuth, Washington, you know, D.K.

underneath. There, so much of this league again is solving dilemmas week to week. I don't think they can. I think this is kind of what they are. They've been blown out now by Seattle and Green Bay and then last night the Chargers. I think that's closer to what they are than what I saw last week and what they did to the turnover prone Daniel Jones Colts. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

Perhaps Rogers needs a midweek darkness retreat to, you know, recalibrate things in bits, You know who doesn't need one? The LA Rams, Colin. Oh my gosh. Rams looking like the best team in the NFL right now and Matt Stafford leading the way. He became the first player in NFL history to throw four touchdowns in three straight games.

How about this last six games? 20 touchdowns, zero picks. Wow. The Rams roll the Niners. We called this on Friday. Here's Devante Adams talking about his MVP quarterback. Well, I mean, it's looked like MVP play to me all year, to be honest.

I mean, even certain games, I mean, like I said, the pick he threw against Tennessee and the way he bounced back after that. Like, that's how an MVP plays to me. So, you know, just to rally a team and continue to lead at a high level after not, when things don't go your way, I think that's what really shows what an MVP is about. For the record, I think this is the best coach team in the league on any given Sunday. No penalties. No penalties.

No penalties. against your rival on the road, no penalties. I mean, the Vikings had eight fall starts at home. 13 penalties. Rams, none. So this team, I said this three weeks ago. I said it last week. I'll say it again.

It's the most efficient team in the league. They're good in the red zone. They don't get penalized. They can run. They don't turn the ball over. Like, you have to beat the Rams. The Rams do not beat themselves. So right now to me, I'll make an argument.

I'll watch tonight, but this is the best team in the league. Yeah. No, it feels like certainly they've evolved there. Speaking of evolution, Colin, you know, like we constantly talk about you've got to continue to change. The example I always use is Belichick, right? He continued to tinker with the Patriots for two decades. They were tight end heavy, slot receiver heavy, run back defense. I mean, you look at the Rams.

Have you noticed this three tight ends set that he's doing? Yeah. We talked about it after that London game. I was totally shocked he did it against the Jags. Colin, the last three games, nobody can stop the Rams when they put three tight ends on the field. They don't know what's coming. Is it a run or is it a pass?

I mean, the offense has scored over 30 points in the last three with these three tight end sets, and the 49ers defense looked so confused. This was 21-0 in like, it felt like five seconds. Yeah, and I was surprised by this. I wasn't surprised in the late window by a Seattle blowout or a Lions blowout. I thought this would be, I mean, I thought the Rams would win.

I think I called it Friday 24, 23. And Mac Jones, for the record, was great. 33 of 39. Well, yeah, he was good. He put up some numbers. I hear some people trying to make this. Well, Mac Jones could be the starter. I don't want to go there.

I mean, they lost. But, yeah, Mac Jones was very solid. Still don't have IU. Ricky Pearsall's missing. If you want to be trouble for the Niners, besides the defense. Christian McCaffrey couldn't run anywhere, but Brian Robinson could.

I don't know if you noticed that. I don't want to say McCaffrey slowing down, but the trend lines are not good for the Niners. But let's go back to a positive story, Colin. And that's your Seattle Seahawks. I laughed at you when you said the Seahawks were a playoff team preseason, and oh my gosh, they just destroyed the Cardinals. This was 35-0.

Yes, 35-0. I mean, what an unbelievable performance. JSN went nuts. The defense scored two touchdowns, both by DeMarcus Lawrence. Colin, here's JSN talking about what makes Seattle such a great team. Preparation,

our culture in the building, the guys that we have in this locker room, you know, doing whatever it takes to win. That's from Monday to Sunday. And, you know, what we're building here, we all feel like we have something special and we just want to keep it going and protect what we have. From this point forward, I would never draft anything but an Ohio statewide receiver.

I mean, between Ibuka and that kid, and they got two more great ones in school. I mean, even Harrison can be a bit moody and disappear, but Arizona is a you know what. This kid is so good. First receiver to 1,000 yards, and now they added the receiver from New Orleans, which is going to take two or three weeks to them. to figure out, but I'll tell you, turn the sound down on Seattle and watch them. This has to be the fastest team in the league. Everybody can run on this team. Everybody, safeties, corners, defensive ends. This team is just fast. Lawrence looks like a beefed-up like Cam Chancellor when he's

grabbing the ball and running. I was stunned. Let me just point this out. So four teams this season have scored 30 or more points in the first half. Seattle's done it is three of them. Three of the four is Seattle. This team is unstoppable. Now, This comes from an Oregon guy here on staff, your boy, Zach. So Sam Darnold, amazing in the first half. He's been the best quarterback in the first half this season. 75%, Colin, according to splits. Weirdly, he hasn't been as good in the second half.

Now, some of it is great game script. Well, some of it is, some of it leading by a lot. Some of it leading by five touchdowns. It's hard to generate enthusiasm from the big uglies up front. I mean, yesterday, Donald had two of the strangest turnovers of all time. One of his passes hit a tight-end's helmet. Yeah. So he's taking more sacks in the second half, more interceptions, his completion percentage is down significantly. His quarterback rating drops by about 45 points.

So I'm not, again, not overreacting, but I do wonder, I don't want to get into the MVP discussion with Darnall. That's a little goofy. But this is a guy who we know last year imploded at the end of the season in Minnesota, and that's largely why he's not there. Colin, I know when we get to the high leverage playoff games, we're not going to be facing Arizona. They're going to be facing Philly, Packers, Rams. Do you have confidence in Darnel? Yes, absolutely. One person in America, two people in America didn't bail on him.

Kyle Shanahan and me. Colin Coward. Yes. Final story, let's go to college football, because this has to be, as of now, the catch of the year. Indiana storms back to beat Penn State in a great game. Future Jet quarterback, Mr. Mendoza, with an unbelievable final drive. I think they went 87 yards and Mendoza delivers. Colin, we have the call from Gus Johnson.

Listen to the great Gus Johnson on Indiana's way. That was the best second half of a football game I have seen in college football this year and the best last second drive. If you watch Dante Moore in the lousy weather in Iowa and Mendoza in that, those are your two best college quarterbacks. They were both so good. good in big spots. Mendoza throws a, I mean, that's an NFL throw.

In the NFL, if you're a quarterback, front of the end zone low, back of the end zone high, so nobody can get it. That is literally exactly how you make the throw. Like Mendoza made two or three, on that final drive, Mendoza made two to three. I mean, first round, top pick throws, looks the part. The kid, Cooper, if you watch his momentum,

it's like carrying him out of bounds. So initially you're like, there's no way he's, getting his feet down, but his feet seemed to kind of go back in time and drift back toward the field. It was insane. An unbelievable win for Indiana. It obviously sets up Indiana, Ohio State, still being undefeated, essentially for the number one spot in the college football rankings. So the new rankings come out tomorrow. It seems like the Big Ten's probably only going to get three in. If USC somehow takes down Oregon, then it gets real interesting. Okay, Ohio State number one, Bama 2, Indiana 3.

I don't buy Texas A&M like everybody else does. I think largely I would agree with you. I am curious, the Oregon rally against Iowa, and I don't know if we'll get to it later. I watched the whole thing. That was a hell of a fourth quarter. Iowa was plucky. I like that team. Here's the thing.

They covered. Crappy weather for a West Coast team going to the Midwest. Now Oregon plays in that kind of weather two or three times a year in Otson, but I thought it was an impressive win. And Iowa's got like, you know, seven NFL guys. Iowa's well coached. That throw right there by Dante Moore. Come on. In that weather, and Oregon was down. I think Oregon was down. I could be wrong. Four of their top five receivers. They were down a lot of guys. I mean, they were down all their perimeter guys. So that win was way more impressive than it won't get nearly the credit it deserves. Oh, it's just Iowa. Iowa, in that weather at home, Oregon just reeling skill players. That was a huge win by them. Yeah, great, great cover, though. Covered by the Hawkeyes. They deliver at home.

Colin, yes, I know you love him. Okay, back to back. College guy. I watched one, then I watched the other, and I'm like, it was a wild Saturday. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News.

You know, you know when you're learning to drive? Remember that in like high school? And you have the driver's ed teacher. And you're sitting there driving. and right next to you, mine's name was Steve. Steve Bridge, he was the driver's ed teacher. I had my football coach. He was.

And so, you've got to not only be able to drive when the driver's ed teacher is sitting next to you, but when he gets out, you can't veer into a tree or you really can't drive. That's J.J. McCarthy of Minnesota after the first scripted drive of the game. Folks, you can't convince me it works. It doesn't.

His first drive this year, first drives, he completes 78% of his throws. After that, 51. Again, he's great when the driver's ed teacher is in the right seat. Eventually, the teacher leaves the car and you're going to drive. So Justin Jefferson's three worst games, the three J.J. McCarthy starts. So, I mean, the other thing that was troubling,

eight false starts for a home game. False starts, that's the boiling the water part of culinary school. Have you turned the stove on? You can't have eight fall starts in a season. That was the most in 25 years for a home team. So Josh Dobbs, remember Josh Dobbs? He came to Kevin O'Connell. You remember that game.

No practices. So Josh Dobbs Backup, career backup. No practices. Engineered 31 points of offense. 102 passer rated. J.J. McCarthy, off script. Passer rating is 57.

The hardest thing in the NFL, in my opinion, beyond just winning, is acknowledging for GMs and coaches, is we made a mistake in that first round pick. The Colts admitted it with Anthony Richardson. The Niners admitted it with Tray Lance, and there's no rush. I'd let J.J. McCarthy play the entire year. Got nothing to lose.

You're not as good as Chicago. You're not as good as Green Bay. You're not as good as Detroit. It's just not going to work. But, I mean, the operation doesn't work. I do think if you're good on the first drive, it means you're coachable. And I think his arm is an NFL arm.

but Kevin O'Connell's had seven quarterbacks in Minnesota. JJ's 6th. And I'm watching Justin Jefferson, and he's about done with it. So I don't know. I'm watching it. I don't want to be negative. He was the one. I don't want to do confirmation bias because this was the one first round quarterback.

I didn't get it. What we've seen about all those Michigan guys, Roman Wilson, Blake, Corum. We've noticed, have you noticed this? JJ, have you noticed this? They're not as good as pros. It's not like the Georgia guys that come in like Jalen Carter and are immediately a top two player in the league at his position. It's not the Bama guys that walk in the wide receivers and you're like, oh, yeah, that got,

a lot of those Michigan guys, a lot of it was Harbaugh. And I'm watching and I know he's a winner. I get it, but I don't get the traits. I don't see it. it's not maybe a negative. I just don't see it. Here's J.J. McCarthy after the loss. It was there.

We just kept shooting ourselves in the foot. And, you know, I take full responsibility for the pre-snap, you know, procedure or penalties. You know, we got three turnovers and just, you know, too many things that, you know, don't set us up for success, you know, when the clock hit zero. So we just got to go back to work, watch this film, and, you know, really clean up all the little things because that's what hurt us today.

Now, again, he moves pretty well. I think he has a nice arm. Be a nice arm. He moves well. Nice kid. Seems smart. Hard to get into Michigan. I'd let him play the rest of the year.

You know, I mean, maybe, you know, listen, I like Michael Pennix. I don't like the way that looks. So, I mean, stuff can change. There's no, I was very critical. First two weeks, three weeks of Caleb Williams. He couldn't get the operational stuff down. So, I mean, seems like a good kid.

Working hard. Again, he moves. He moves better than average. Well, he moves average. He's fine. he's got a nice arm. He makes NFL throws, but I don't know what it is.

I think, I've said this with Bo Nex. I feel like Bo Nix is nervous. I don't know exactly what it is. Because everybody tells me, this is going to work, and I just don't see it. So maybe I'm wrong. I've been, you know, listen, I thought the Steelers would win last night.

So I whiff as much as anybody. But, you know, if you're a Minnesota fan, I've just seen guys work at quarterback for this organization without a practice. So I just feel like we're going on two years of stuff. It's got to get smoother than this. It can't be this bumpy.

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as Minnesota takes on Dante Moore and number nine Oregon. Friday night. 9 p.m. Eastern, 6 Pacific on Fox. All right. Adam Schepter just broke the story. Brian Daible has been fired. New York Giants head coach.

I think it's idiotic. So this is what the New York Jets did last year. The New York franchises don't know what they're doing. So the Jets last year, let's fire the best coach we have. Robert Sala. How'd it work? Embarrassing. So the best coach the Giants have is Brian Daibble.

who works really well with Jackson Dart. So you're going to let him walk out of the building. And then you're going to have like the third or fourth best coach on the staff take over as the interim guy. And if he wins a couple games, every fan's going to be going, hey, that's our guy. Never fire the best coach on your staff. And if you have to, do it at the end of a season. In the middle of a season to fire Robert Sala, the Jets went sideways in 15 minutes. I mean, it's until yesterday, Sala was up for coordinator of the year.

They have no players left in San Francisco. So, again, these New York franchises, I don't know if it's talk radio that drives it, or the newspapers, or the fans, or the media, but, I mean, this is the Jets a year ago. You're firing your best coach. If you want to fire him at the end of the year, that's fine. But he has a really good relationship with the most important person on your team, Jackson Dart. What are you doing? Just like last year, Robert Sala, great relationship with Soss Gardner and Quinn Williams, fired him, circled the drain.

So, you know, I would hire Dable as a coordinator in 15 minutes. Does he get another head coaching job? Possible. I mean, maybe it's probable. But I've said before with Robert Sala. Robert Sala deserves a second crack. He's a great defensive coach. He's just got to get the offensive guy right.

I think Dable's an excellent offensive coach. neighbors isn't healthy, scataboo is not healthy, and I guarantee here's why they fired it. Well, it's the fourth time we've led by 10, you know, late in the game. Yeah, but you don't have a running back. So it's hard when your quarterback, who's athletic, gets dinged up where he could run around and get first downs. Instead, you go to old man Russell Wilson,

who is not Jackson Dart at this point. And you don't have scataboo. So when you have these 10-point leads, what you want to do is run the ball. That is the key, especially in November, late October, November football. Well, Scataboo's gone. So it is harder when you have a lead to milk the clock and eat the clock when you don't have Scataboo and Jackson Dark gets banged up. And coming up here, this schedule, Green Bay at Detroit, at New England.

Let's see how you do with an interim coach. Good luck. That's the three toughest games in a row on the schedule. good luck and for the record if I would have told you before the season started let's say they beat the Raiders and they beat Washington and they finish

four and 13 if I would have told you before the season okay listen they finish four and 13 or five and 12 but neighbors in Scataboo both get hurt and Jackson Dart plays really well with Brian Daibol

you'd be like, yeah, I'll sign up for it. You had no reasonable person looked at this schedule and thought, oh, it's a nine-win team or an eight-win team. I picked them for fourth in division, I think, third or fourth. I mean, they weren't a playoff team. So I always say this. Anytime my wife gets all worked up about the kids, I'm like,

well, would you have signed up for this, or this, or this? And the answer is usually, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not as bad as you think. If I'd have told you, neighbors gets hurt, Andrew Thomas in and out of the lineup, Scataboo gets hurt, Dallas is better than everybody thinks, but Jackson Dart emerges as a franchise quarterback. You just signed up for that.

So these New York football teams are so absurdly reactionary. You know, this is the Jets in a different uniform. Good luck. And again, when you fire coaches midseason, it's kind of humiliating, right? There are going to be people that look at that job and like Jackson Dart, and they're like, yeah, I want to sign up for that. I don't know if I want to sign up for that.

that. You're going to go and hire a coordinator. I'll tell you right now, if I was the New York Giants, I can sit here and complain. I'd hire Mike McCarthy. That's who I would go hire. Mike McCarthy with Aaron Rogers, with Cooper Rush, with Dak Prescott. Mike McCarthy's quarterbacks win and perform very well. I would hire Mike McCarthy. The only advantage to firing Brian Daible is that you can get on the phone this afternoon. I don't know, what are the rules in the NFL on coaches stuff. There's probably some arcane rule that you can't call before this and that. I would just send messages through agents and the right channels.

Mike McCarthy is who we want. That's my solution. Don't get caught up because watch what happens. Some interim guy goes out and wins three games. And every giant fans like that, yeah, players respond to that guy. That's my substitute teacher rule. Everybody loves the substitute teacher. Okay.

So 13 seasons, the Giants have one playoff win. Brian Dable and Daniel Jones. Okay. So you can complain all you want. He got Daniel Jones of the playoffs and Jackson Dart. He was the guy in the building that loved Jackson Dart. Right? Like there were a lot of naysayers, myself included.

We didn't like Jack. I was like Jackson Dart's a second round guy. I said that. I said, I've seen him with Lane Kiffin for a couple years. He's got talent. He's a draftable quarterback. He's a second round guy. Right now he looks better than Cam Ward.

And the one guy that kept pounding on his chest, was Brian Daibel. He was the one guy. That's my guy. All right. The Giants interim head coach will be their sixth since 2016. Ben McAdoo, Spags, Pat Schumer, Joe Judge, Brian Daibel. All right. You know, this whole charade. Now, I know you hate the Giants, so you probably think this is the greatest day of all time.

No. Shockingly, I kind of agree with you because of Jackson Dart's been so good. Here, the media, it's like the talking points came from high above. The owner is like basically texting every media member. Well, he started two and eight each of the last three years. Like, they had one of the lowest win totals in the league this year. Two years ago was the Daniel Jones injury, I believe, coming off the playoff year. They're killing daybo for blowing these leads.

Colin, with a rookie quarterback and no skill position players. He's throwing a Darius Slayton and Theo Johnson. They're building leads. The fact that he can't hold him, obviously not great, but you've got a rookie quarterback. I'm stunned because, Colin, I'll be honest, what if the next coach evaluates Dart and says, yeah, he looks okay, not from my system? Then you've got to restart over at quarterback. It's not a given that Jackson Dart is their franchise quarterback.

But with Davey will you at least have progress. So yesterday against the Bears on the road, Scataboo's out, Neighbors is out, Jackson Dart concussion out. And because you couldn't win Caleb Williams and that skill group against, Russell Wilson and because you couldn't win on the road in the snow and people are talking about well I remember that there's a situational play that all the giant

fans were complaining about You go fourth and one up seven or do you kick the field to go to go up two scores I can barely get it out I hadn't sure maybe you go for the touchdown there but whatever I mean you're not firing the coach off that hey Colin where's day bowl coaching next year is he a head coach or an OC

He'll interview for the Dolphins job probably. He's rougher than Mike McDaniel. He's kind of gruff. He's the opposite of McDaniel. Colin right, calling wrong in a Monday next. It's the hurt. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers.

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