The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Chiefs need a reboot, the Bears are for real, the problem with the College Football Playoff

Episode Date: December 8, 2025

Colin Cowherd explains why the Chiefs are in need of a reboot after falling to 6-7 on the season following a home loss to the Texans He believes the Bears are for real, even though they lost to the Packers in a close game Colin gives his thoughts on Notre Dame not making the College Football Playoff over Miami See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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where Colin was wrong. Well, we said before this season, And J-MAC said, Chiefs won't make the playoffs. I said they will, but the dynasty is over. And it looks like this is how they end, and you were watching it last night. So trust your eyes. They look a little slower. They don't look like Seattle.

They don't look like the Packers. Travis Kelsey, another big drop. They can't generate a consistent pass rush. The O line got pushed around. They don't have a running game. Even Andy Reid. Thai game kind of takes a big swing, didn't have to, gave the Texans points. So this is how dynasties end.

They don't fall off a cliff. They dominate for years, go to Super Bowls, win Super Bowls, and then they start winning really close games. That was Kansas City last year. And then they start losing all those close games. Oh, wait, that's Kansas City this year. So again, you watched the Rams yesterday. You watch Seattle in a blowout win.

You watch Green Bay or the Lions. You see the youth and aggressive and speed and remarkably electric players. I saw some of that from the Texans last night. There's no question watching that game. And I thought, uh, warm weather, Houston, up in the cold weather, Texans were the better team, morally to athletes. Now, when they pay C.J. Stroud, you know, 400 million plus, they'll start looking like Kansas City. But I mean, again, Patrick Mahomes once again had to be. They don't want him to be

the leading rusher. That's not what Kansas City wants, but Mahomes had to be the leading rusher. And do you know what the chiefs are when he is? O and four this year. They don't want him to be the leading rusher. They don't want him to take those hits. Travis Kelsey, it's over. Brett Veets, the GM's got to rebuild that D-line and O line. They got a hit on their draft picks. But this is what happens when you pay a superstar quarterback and you're drafting at the bottom of the round in the bottom of the second and the bottom of the third teams catch up the NFL doesn't want dynasties they they don't need dynasties everybody gets huge ratings these days what they want is you can be dominant for a few years we'd love you to have a superstar quarterback but you're going to

get lousy draft picks and you're going to have to pay them and the roster is going to get thin and when i watch kansas this is why brady in new england kept re rebooting their you know their tight ends they're wide receivers, they're running backs, they're aligned with very few exceptions. I mean, Kansas City this year on third down. Third down is my favorite down in the NFL because you can judge a lot. You can judge coaching, line play,

how smart your quarterback is. Kansas City this year, 35% on third down. That's what the Raiders and Jets territory is. So they're just, that's the reality. But trust your eyes. And you can call Kansas City. They need a reboot.

I think it's closer to a rebuild. That offensive line is a mile from the Rams. It's a mile from the Broncos yesterday. I mean, a guy at one point, Bo Nix is 25, a 30. It's just pitch and catch. They can run. They can pass. They have time.

So Kansas City's got some work to do. The O line does not get a push. They don't really have a top back. The Texans were absolutely the better team. Patrick Mahomes, passer rating. Can't blame it on him. He doesn't have as good at people around it. But I thought the Andy Reid go for it,

at 10, and he sees it, and he senses it. Andy understands. Andy had never done that before. He had never called that that deep in his territory, fourth quarter tied game. He'd never done that before. And Andy Reid knows what he's doing, but he understands what's happening. The margins are not only shrinking, they're gone. They're the second best team on the field when they played Denver or last night when they played the Texans and here was Mahomes after. I know we're not winning games, but that mindset that these guys have in this locker room in the games that we're not winning. You can never question the fight of this team. And obviously, we're not executing at the right moments, and we're not making those plays.

But at the end of the day, you'll never question that. And I think you'll see that for these last four weeks. Okay, so let's talk Packers, Bears at Lambo. This game was not about Green Bay. Green Bay was a touchdown favorite. Green Bay was at home. Green Bay is a team we talk about the last 30 years, whether it's Jordan Love, Aaron Rogers, or Brett Favre.

Green Bay is always in the Super Bowl conversation. This game was about the Chicago Bears. Are they legit? So they go to Philadelphia and win, and what's everybody say? Well, I mean, the Eagles, they're broken. The Bears, this is a real game. Yeah, I watched it. That's the best loss by any team in the NFL.

Chicago's legit. They dominate the second half. They do a lot of things good teams do. They win the turnover battle. They take the ball away. They run the ball. They've got a smart offensive coach. They're very dynamic at quarterback.

Yes, Caleb Williams is uneven. So is Mo Nicks. So are all the young quarterbacks not named Drake May. They're all uneven. So what? Of course, Jordan Love looks more polished and refined. Because at this point, Jordan loves a top five or six quarterback. of course he looks better than Caleb Williams.

This is six year in the league. That's a lot of practice and a lot of games. Of course, Matt Lafleur and Green Bay looks more polished and making big plays late to seal the win. This is what Green Bay has been doing for three decades. But for Bears, this is a whole new ball game. This was new territory. The country was watching.

And they dominated the second half. And yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, and Caleb Williams doesn't not throw a lot of picks. I didn't know if they were going to get a touchdown. I was surprised he threw an interception. He acknowledged it after the game. But the truth is, go look at those last two at Lambo, Chicago drives against great Green Bay's defense. Jeff Halfley's defense is fantastic. They had a 17-play, eight-and-a-half-minute drive.

That is it. Nobody's doing that against the Packers. Nobody this year. they followed up with 60 yards in three minutes. So they can score quick. They can move the ball fast. They can beat you up. They can go 18 plays.

They're doing it in the second half. You and I watch that game. You know who was gassed in the second half? It wasn't the Bears. The Packers defense was gassed. And that Green Bay defense is well coached and really good. And they were tired. So this is all new territory.

And the good news for Chicago, yes, you lost. But you get the lions at home. You get this Green Bay. team at home. So the Chicago Bears are still going to control the destiny. But we talk about this all the time. When you look

at teams, I mean, to me, losing that game, I was like, that's about as good as a loss is. Those last two drives for Chicago. And again, Caleb Williams isn't going to look as polished as Jordan Love. Of course, you know how many, I mean, Jordan

Love sat for three years before he got the keys to the car and it's a Mercedes. You know, it's a nice car in Green Bay. So he looks, I mean, he throws the ball now like Aaron used to. And now all the Green Bay receivers, Watson's healthy and Reed's ready to go. So they've drafted well. Green Bay is a Super Bowl team. Green Bay is a polished, refined, brilliantly coached, execution, efficiency, smart, development.

Everything about Green Bay is polish, class, excellent. Chicago? A whole new ball game. And I thought they looked fantastic in the second half, generally speaking, the most important half. And here was their young coach, Ben Johnson, after. Obviously, when it comes down to the wire like that, and you're on the losing side of it, it's disappointing.

But a lot of credit to our guys in the second half there, making it a game down 14 to 3 half time. And you had it coming down to the last 30 seconds and potential to tie that game up or whether it's overtime or go for the two point. You know, so really close at the end, but give a lot of credit to Green Bay. They made a couple more plays than us.

And that's all it was. A couple more plays. I think Chicago, there's an argument. The Bears were the last team that everybody acknowledged, okay, they're legit. Like a couple weeks ago, with New England, we watched New England

clobber another team and we're like, okay, New England's legit. And we know Buffalo with Josh Allen's good. Most of the time by Thanksgiving, you know who's really good. But we were all questioning Chicago, myself included, because they were winning, but they were barely winning against average teams. I think Jay Mack and I said it last week,

Green Bay may be the best team in the league. And they, at Lambo, in lousy weather, took them to the final plays. Totally impressed with it. Sometimes, you know, not all wins are good ones. You can win a football game and lose five starters to injuries. And not all losses are awful. Some of them are a barometer of where you are.

If I'm Chicago, busing home, I'm like, we can play with anybody. Because if you can play against Green Bay in Lambo, you can play with anybody. You can play with the Rams. You can play. We just saw him beat Philly. You can play with the Lions. I mean, got Baltimore, Buffalo. Kansas City don't look as dominant.

I mean, a lot of people don't buy New England. I do. So that's about as good a loss as you can have. I don't know what the rating was, by the way, the television rating on that game was, but that was so classic pro football. It looked cold. It was the Packers and the Bears. How much fun?

You know, a lot of times, J.Mack, we talk about this. This has been a lobsided rivalry. It's almost a geographic rivalry, not an actual athletic rivalry. And I'm watching that yesterday thinking, do I get 10 years of Caleb and Jordan Love, Ben Johnson, and Matt LaFleur? Because that was unbelievable television. Yeah, Bears kept coming back. Did you see this interesting stat that Packers got to the Red Zone once? That's it?

Everything else was like a big play touchdown because the Bears kept blitzing. So the Bears' defense played pretty darn good. I was wrong. I didn't think they could hang with Green Bay. I think the Bears are legit. They can mess around when a game or two in the playoffs, no? Well, I think it's interesting. They do two things that really help in crappy weather.

They run the ball. They're a physical offense. They think to run the ball. And so does Caleb. So you don't have to put the ball in harm's way. So they run the ball. The other thing is they win the turnover battle. They win it constantly.

You go to postseason football. How many times do the Chiefs win games and we're like, they got outplayed? They'd win the turnover battle. They'd make, you know, Mahalms running for a first down. The Bears, now we know the Packers do a lot of things. Super Bowl teams do. We know that. They've been doing it for 30 years. It's the first time in three decades that you look to bears, offense, defense, top to bottom, and you're like, oh, yeah, that's what great teams do. They've had talent, but they, you know,

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and it was my first love before the NFL when I was a kid. They get very tribal. And we complain, complain, complain. When all the dust settled, my only problem with the college football playoff is Tulane and James Madison are in it. This is not March Madness with 68 teams. It's college football. It's 12. We all know they have no chance to win two games.

I don't, I mean, maybe Old Miss. has a flat tire and doesn't show up. But who are we kidding? Let's stop all this nonsense. Oh, the little guy, nobody cares. College football now has free agency and pays players. And bowl games are irrelevant. It's over.

There's no bowl games in pro football. Pretty soon there's going to be no bowl games of note in college football. It is now the NFL, two power conferences and a playoff. So, by the way, not every day. not everybody in life deserves to be at the grown-up table. Sometimes you don't get invited to the relatives parties, and I don't have any interest about Tulane and James Madison, and I've never fallen for that nonsense.

All I cared about, Miami got in over Notre Dame. That's what I really cared about. And I've always been very pro Notre Dame. I love Marcus Freeman. I think Notre Dame's awesome. But Notre Dame, stop whining. All you had to do was, beat Texas, A&M or Miami.

One of them. You couldn't beat either. You didn't have a strength of schedule. You had a stink of schedule. You played five teams with eight plus losses. You played the worst team in the SEC. The worst team in the ACC. The worst team in the

Big Ten. Of course, you wouldn't have had Notre Dame a schedule that awful if you were a full member of a conference. But Notre Dame won't do that. Oh, maybe for volleyball. They don't do it. it for football. That's why they're so desperate for the USC game. And I keep saying the LA Times finally agreed with me today, USC doesn't need Notre Dame. They're a full member of a great

conference, the Big Ten. Notre Dame's a half member in football. And you get years like this when you got a stinkeroo schedule. When Notre Dame last won their national championship, do you know this? There were 25 independents. Look around at how many there are today, because everybody finally realized, even BYU joined a conference. And the one thing we're all looking for college football, what does college football need more than anything? Uniformity. So I don't have any pity for Notre Dame being stubborn.

They did a disservice to themselves. When you plan a big boy conference and you're fully committed, you're just going to get really uncomfortable games and you can't control them. Notre Dame schedule was awful. Face seven teams that were under 100 in defensive ratings. Oh, yeah, they did play Miami that's got a great defense, and they couldn't run the ball. So we all know that college football is poorly managed. This has been something I have ragged on forever.

It's an $8 billion business with no CEO. Like the Wild Wild West, it's got territorial governors, like the 1800s. The commissioners are each doing their own thing. But it's over. This whole independent football thing. Now, there is something that's outrageous that's written in next year. if Notre Dame's a top 12 team, they'll automatically get in. All right.

But I don't shed any tears for Notre Dame this year, and I'm pro Notre Dame. I wish my kids would have gone there. It's a great school. And I love Marcus Freeman, but the outrage would have been keeping Miami out. They not only beat them head to head, they have the better defense, common opponents they were better. They have the better passing game. They have a better D-line.

When they went and talked to coaches who had played both Notre Dame and Marathon, Miami overwhelmingly the coaches said yeah Miami got way better players so the committee's not perfect the sports inartistic I but but what we're in a transition period now in college football that's what we are we've seen it in a lot of different industries we're going through it with AI our economy's transitioning it's bumpy it's turbulence but if you got Miami out that would have been outrageous now the AD of Notre Dame went on this Dan Patrick's show this morning and you know they're like we're not going to bulls this is all outrageous here's notre d just we didn't appreciate the fact that we were singled out repeatedly uh and compared

to miami but it raised a lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taking shots we were mystified by the actions of the conference to attack you know their biggest really business partner in football and a member of their conference in 24 of our other sports, they have certainly done permanent damage to the relationship between the conference in Notre Dame. Well, that's not terrible because I would love to see Notre Dame join the Big Ten. I think they academically and football-wise fit, and geographically they fit. But this idea is we didn't like the way we were compared to Miami. The hell are you talking about?

Of course you were compared to Miami. You played them. The committee had to make a decision on you in Miami. course you were compared to him. That's the way it works in a playoff system. You get compared to people and people argue about the kind of arbitrary nature of the sport. At the end of it, of course you were compared to him. I'm not an anti-Nodername guy.

In fact, a month ago, I was like, I think I'd put Notre Dame in. But when you watch Miami beat Pitt, you dug deeper and deeper, and now you watch common opponents, you listen to coaches who played them. the committee did it right. I actually think Miami is going to beat Texas A&M. So they're an underdog by 4 and I actually like, I haven't bought into Texas A&M all year. And I think Alabama probably bounces back and beats Oklahoma.

It's not perfect. This whole thing about Tulane and James Madison, I've never bought into this argument the little guy can win. You know what happened is Boise State, which had 11 pros at the time. Boise State had Chris Peterson, one of the great coaches ever. In all the small schools, they go look at Boise State and go, remember, they beat Oklahoma.

Yeah, that's great. But go look at Tulane. Didn't Tulane lose by 30 this year to Ole Miss? Didn't they play already? I mean, so that's what bothers me. I'm not losing sleep on Notre Dame being held out, Texas being held out, although I think they had arguments. I think the story of the weekend is Miami got in,

and the second story is I thought Indiana was a basketball school that's hard to wrap your brain around that one J-MAC with the news Turn on the news This is the herd line news All right let's go to Indiana And that 13 to 10 win over Ohio State

Saturday night crazy game Ohio State really let everybody down The defense was not as formidable As we were told they were Ohio State's quarterback wasn't great And Fernando Mendoza dealt. Oh my, look at this throw, Colin. Just, I mean, he was dropping dimes all over the place.

Solidified himself as the Heisman winner, as the number one pick in the draft. I mean, Mendoza was tremendous. Here he is talking to Jenny Taft after the game. It sounds so beautiful. I want to give all the glory to God. We were never supposed to be in this position. But by the glory of God, the great coach's great teammates, every we have around us, we were able to pull this off.

Whoever thought to Hoosier will be here. But now the Hoosers are flipping chance. I'd hire that guy tomorrow for a podcast. He can look right into the camera. Listen, a lot of people are banging on the kid. That is exactly what I want from a franchise. Who's banging on the car? Well, it's weird.

Stop it. These gibbonsons on line. It's great. This guy's amazing. Mendoza. That's what you want in your franchise quarterback. I want a nerdy guy who's super smart has been a two business. Six, five.

Come on. He looks the part. Are you kidding me? No, he's the other thing about Indiana. their D-line, they got dudes all over the place. They, okay, I watched them go to Oregon. How many teams go to Oregon and push the ducks around?

Like nobody. Ducks shot themselves in the foot a little bit, but Indiana, listen, man, how about the throw by Mendoza? Third and eight, got to have it. This is for the game. Just to dime down the sideline to a Becker. And Indiana now, I haven't really looked at the bracket because I'm still upset with the committee

over this Notre Dame nonsense. I haven't looked at the lines. Do you think Indiana can win this whole thing? Absolutely. Now, I think if they played Ohio State a second time. But wait, wait. They got to play Alabama, Oklahoma first. They're going to win.

They'll beat those teams, yeah. Okay. Oklahoma's, some of the sharp gamblers say Oklahoma's dangerous. Meteer was unhealthy. Remember, you're coming off the injury. He's healthy now. I don't know enough about Oklahoma. I got to do my homework.

I'll tell you, Alabama, Oklahoma. More of that. That's a great game. It's a rematch. Didn't we already see that? I know, but now it's, you're in the playoffs. Alabama doesn't deserve it. Two and two in their last four looked awful in the SEC title game.

Bama hasn't played well, but let me defend Bama. They already went to Athens and beat Georgia. They only played good for a half. The second half, they got their doors blown off. They just held on to victory. Alabama's resume, very suss. I like to bore a lot. Ty Simpson?

I mean, you watch Ty Simpson, Colin. We like him as a pro. I saw nothing Saturday. I'm not, I've been, like, what's going on here? I think he has a reasonably strong arm. I don't, I don't. I didn't buy into a lot of this stuff a couple years ago with certain quarterback from Michigan. I don't buy into the Alabama court.

I think he's fine. Wait a minute. Jay J.J. McCarthy? Wait a minute. Washington. Are we going to talk about it? By far and away, the worst defense in the league. Contextualize it.

Take a deep breath. He also had a great fourth quarter against the Bears. Washington is by a long shot. The worst defensive personnel in the league. Bad, yeah. Bad. All right. Let's move on to, oh, Mike Tomlin.

Remember last week, I guess the entire city of Pittsburgh wanted him fired? Well, the Steelers went to Baltimore as big underdogs and pulled off what I thought was a shocking victory. Looked like some quit in the Ravens? I mean, Aaron Rogers was real mouthy. His first rushing touchdown, by the way, in three years. Rogers afterward defended his coach. Does it mean to get away like this after the week that you guys have had? Means maybe you guys would shut the hell up for a week.

Well, Aaron played well. No, no, he was excellent. This is his best game. I've defended him all year. He's the only consistently redeemable part right now of the Steelers. But the problem is last week, Colin, he was awful against Buffalo. Well, because he's 42 and he's not going to be Josh Allen. But three out of four weeks this year, they have no run game.

They can't always protect him. They have no outside of DK Metcalf. Who's their number two receiver? Their defense is expensive, but doesn't make stops in big, moments. Aaron has been three out of four weeks, a very consistent performer for them, given the circumstances

of a tone-deaf franchised offense. I got to give Pittsburgh their flowers. Congratulations. But this was really about Baltimore and the referees. First of all, Colin, the Ravens did not have one quarterback hit or sack

on immobile Aaron Ron. What was that? And then the overturned touchdown, the call on the field goal where he basically ran the guy ran up the middle between the center and the guard and they called a penalty and Steelers under getting a touchdown. But this is the guys they get likely touchdown if you're watching.

Catch one, two steps. What are we doing here? And then we're like, oh, he didn't get the third step down. One, two, I do not get... How is it not a touchdown? Right, yeah. So what they call it is in the NFL, in fact, let me read this. So he had it and he had two

feet down. The NFL likes to refer to this. I have it right here. It made zero sense. Harbaugh was losing his mind. A lot of gamblers. So it's called the third step is an act common to the game, also known as forward momentum. But there's nowhere you need to go in the end zone.

So my whole life is ball security, two feet down is a touchdown. So that matters at the 40-yard line. like the 40 yard line it's the third it's not just your feet down if you get hit and fumble are you making progress I always thought in the end zone

ball secure tap tap it doesn't matter about the third step the third step matters because the NFL doesn't like fumbles they don't the NFL doesn't want you know everybody playing in the middle of the field

they want touchdowns so the NFL says listen on the field if you catch it one foot, two foot, but you haven't turned to make a move forward and you get hit fumbled. It's not a fumble. I don't believe that should be the case in the end zone could earn nowhere to go forward. It's a catch two feet.

So to me, this game, that call could determine the playoffs. That is an enormous swing. I mean, if I'm Baltimore, I'm devastated right now. I saw some numbers. They're only like 33% chance to make the playoff calling. And losing it on a controversial call, that is devastating. So 10, 15 years ago, the NFL, there was a play. Calvin Johnson caught a ball against the Bears in the back of the end zone.

It was like week one. I think I remember. And it was it. They took away the touchdown. And we were all mystified by it. And for about a 10-year stretch, there was the Des Bryant against Green Bay. Oh, God. There's that what is a catch?

What's not as a catch? I need clarity on this because my entire life, ball secure, bang, bang, feet down. that's a touchdown. That's a touchdown. But, you know, the fumble in the end zone's weird anyway. The worst rule in football is if you fumble as a running back into the end zone, you not only, you lose possession of the ball. That's on the Raiders years ago, Dave Casper, Kenny Stabler, fumbling it forward.

I think of that 70s or 80s. You have to go back and look at that. So the NFL said, we're not going to let you fumble into the end zone. The problem is it's a violent league, and people do fumble out of the end zone all the time. Stick the ball out. James Cook had one yesterday. I don't know what to do because everybody has allegiances. Everybody's a fan. Everybody thinks they know.

I mean, at some point, maybe robot umpires are calling balls and strikes. Maybe we get a robot to say, is this a touchdown or not. That, to me, 99 times out of 100 is a touchdown. And not only really, really you have to look at it if you're the league. You don't have full-time officials. Like the league's worth making a zillion dollars. My take is it's not only a bad call, it probably determines a playoff spot.

And listen, I didn't see a lot from the Ravens yesterday. I don't know if Harbaugh's on the hot seat. I didn't see a good game. This team has regressed. Lamar Jackson just looks disinterested. Something's going on in Baltimore. Anyways, final story, Philadelphia Eagles here in L.A. against the Chargers tonight.

They're coming off back-to-back losses. And weirdly, over the weekend, a giant inflatable rabbit emerged in the Philadelphia locker room, Colin. This is mystifying. It's being referred to as. the vibes bunny or the positivity bunny to boost morale? Yeah, this feels desperate. Well, I don't know who, we still don't know who put this thing in there,

but here's Sake Juan Barclay on the bunny in the locker room. I have no idea. I'm not into holidays and, like, bunnies and Christmas. I do the Christmas stuff. I got kids, but I'm not really big, like, joyful holiday person, I guess. So I don't know why. I think that's really the only spot we can pit a big bunny. But I was told it's a vibe bunny.

and the vibes are high, so there we go. So you didn't sign off on him being in front of your locker. Definitely didn't sign off from my locker. Not at all. I went three and one on my picks, and I have Philadelphia tonight. I like that. I would literally pull my bet off the board after watching that. That is like...

So who did, you think Assyriani ordered this? Is it Big Dom? Is this the GM? Like, AJ Brown? What's going on you? I don't know. They're going to feel like you're trying away too hard. They're not losing because of vibes.

They're losing because they... Have no run game. It's gimmicky. Yeah, it's just not. It's not of Philadelphia. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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But every six or seven times a year, Josh Allen does this. He saves the day. Josh Allen and Buffalo has become LeBron James in Cleveland. He's got to do all the big lifting. He's the human snowplow. Without Josh Allen and Buffalo, everything gets snowed in. Everything is stuck. So last, I mean, remember this season, just this season,

Josh Allen had to score four touchdowns because the bills surrendered 40 points, and then he had to score six touchdowns because the bills surrendered 32 points. And then yesterday they needed four touchdowns again in snow because they surrendered 34 points. And Sean McDermott's the defensive head coach. So I think Josh Allen loves being the man. He doesn't love being the only man. And yesterday, he got James Cook fumbling at the one, so he's got to just run it in himself. So the bills have 44 touchdowns this year.

Josh Allen has 34 of the 44. This has been going on too long. It really is LeBron in Cleveland. He's got to do everything. And I know Sean McDermott is more than capable. He's organized. But just think about this number. This is unbelievable.

The Buffalo bills, for one reason only, Josh Allen, the Buffalo bills this year are 3 and 0 when they surrender 32 or more points. The rest of the league is 6, 61 and 2. I mean, again, he's the city's best snowblower, bulldozer, snow remover. If he's not here, this thing would be a mess. And I'm not forgetting coach is fired, but how many years? Is this going to be the story? This is the perfect year, Buffalo to win it.

Kansas City won't be in the playoffs. The Chargers, Harbaugh, Herber are good, missing both offensive tackles. Baltimore, broken. Burrow won't make the playoffs. This is the year. The second best team or first best team has young Drake May and is still in a rebuild, New England. how many years do you have to see this? I mean, Joe Burrow had a couple of picks in two passes, otherwise it was brilliant,

and that saved the day. Here is Josh Allen after. We knew that we were moving the ball well and we were hurting ourselves, and if we can just stop hurting ourselves, we can find success. And you pair that up with a couple of turnovers from our defense. That's a good recipe right there. Yeah, this has really become Groundhog Day. And you've got to be careful.

I mean, listen, the Broncos with John Elway, they had a very good coach, Dan Reeves. Very good coach. And, I mean, they finally were like, we're going to go to Mike Shanahan. We can't keep getting blown out in Super Bowls. And Elway was kind of struggling with it a little bit with Dan Reeves. Dan Reeves are a very good coach. But it was time. And I kind of feel like this with Buffalo.

Like the fact that you needed Josh Allen, this year he's had to score four touchdowns and six touchdowns and four touchdowns and yesterday even his running backs fumbling. It's time because this is the year. Think about this. There's an argument to be made that you're going to face Bonix and Drake May in the playoffs of your biggest threats. They're like kids. They're still young kids trying to figure out how to play the position. And had you made a move last year and gotten an offensive coach, maybe gone after a big boy, Ben Johnson, you'd be in a different spot. This is the year.

It opened up for you. And again, I've watched this Buffalo team play nine, ten times start to finish. The thing they got going for them, I'll give them credit. I don't even know if I give them credit is that as you see all this cold weather between James Cook and Josh Allen, they can run the football. It's really a running team if you count Josh Allen running. They have no receivers. Yesterday, their leading receivers are tight ends.

So they have no downfield guy they trust. In fact, I think Gabe Davis had two catches. That was their leading receiver, and they just brought him back. So they're not dependent on the deep ball, even though they have the strongest arm quarterback. That helps a lot. They're actually built, and they play well. And they actually, this is a Buffalo team that needs snow.

because you can beat them deep all day long, but in snow you can't throw it deep much. So they got that going for them, but I, and here's Superman to save the day again. All right. So I want to go back to the whole Travis Kelsey thing. He had a big drop and it becomes a turnover.

Just say this out loud. Ten time Pro Bowler, number one sports podcast, marrying a pop star, leads his team in drops now. Doesn't that sound like a former Hall of Fame player who's playing in his last year? I know what it looks like, but it even sounds like it.

And listen, he won it life. I'm happy for him. The Kelsey's are great, but he's a distracted, regressing player. And, you know, we said this is his last year. A lot of what's ailed, what's illed, which really hurt the chiefs all year is they've been in these big spots and Mahomes, who's still in his prime, is looking for Kelsey and he finds him, and it doesn't turn out the way you wanted to turn out.

So last night was fitting for what the chiefs had become this year a lot in big spots. Is that he's looking for his guy, and his guy has got a really popular podcast and is a great former player who now leads the chiefs this year and drops. So a lot of what they're dealing with last night was really symbolic of what has happened to the chiefs. In big spots, they don't look as athletic, there's a big drop. And he's had a remarkable career. But think about this, is that I was looking at it up this morning. Grunk is the same age as Travis Kelsey.

And Gronk's been in TV for years. Like it's time. And here's Mahomes after the game on Travis's future. Every season I've had with him these last few years, I try to cherish because you never know. He got himself in great shape this year, and he's played great football, and he'll have the option to do whatever he wants to do after this season. But I know one thing is he'll give everything he has the rest of the season to try to give us a chance to make a playoff run.

It's very difficult when you're winning, and he is not only winning he's winning at life he didn't want to talk to the media after I get it he's gotten wildly popular almost like NBA Instagram popular for a variety of reasons but I thought

watching him last night and watching that play it was very symbolic of you know it doesn't look right but it also doesn't sound right like I'm all for podcasting I'm all for marrying the richest pop star in the world

I'm not a moralist. I'm not envious. I think it's great. But I think this is sort of what this year was going to look like. This is what it was going to look like. And it is in a primetime game, in a standalone Sunday night game. You put the popular team on. And again, this is how dynasties end.

You win Super Bowls and you dominate. You win big. And then you win barely. And then you lose close. and they don't get the pass rush. Chris Jones isn't as dominant. They can't get people off the field on third down. They can't convert on third down.

And their star weapon leads the team in drops, kind of distracted. I mean, guys had like 7, 8, 9, I think a couple of years ago, he said he had 10 surgeries. I'm not sure that's the number. But this is what it was going to look like. You said they wouldn't make the playoffs. I thought they'd make it as a wild card team. I picked Denver to win the division. but I was watching last year

and watching it last year there's a reason. There is a skilled winning close games but there's also a reason for losing close games and your eyes are telling you the reason. Technically they're not eliminated from the playoffs. They won't win the AFC West. They just need a million things to happen to get to

the postseason. It feels over. I think your topic about the rebuild, you said at the top of the hour, that deserves a deeper doubt. I don't think it's a reboot. I think there's a bit of a rebuild here. Yeah. They got some dead wood on defense, offensive line. Oh. Hey, guys, it's us.

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