The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Chiefs trade Trent McDuffie to the Rams, The Honeymoon is over for Luka and the Lakers

Episode Date: March 4, 2026

Colin Cowherd reacts to BREAKING NFL NEWS: the Chiefs trade 2x Super Bowl Champ Trent McDuffie to the Rams. Colin explains what this means for the Rams Super Bowl chances and why the Bears could be th...e next team to take a big swing. The Honeymoon is over for the Lakers and Luka DoncicSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:49 Thanks for making us part of your day, regardless of the platform. We have a trade and it's a big one in the NFL. Trent McDuffie, an elite corner, and there's one or two holes for the L.A. Rams. Special teams needed to be upgraded. They'll do that in the draft, and they need a lockdown corner. Their GM, Les Need even discussed it earlier this week. And what do you know? They've made a deal with the Kansas City Chiefs, striking when the iron is hot. Matt Stafford, only a couple of years left. They're going to give up a first rounder at the end of this year. draft, a fifth and a six on a third rounder next year. So Trent McDuffie, in my opinion, because the Rams pass rush is better than the current Chiefs pass rush, will be even a better
Starting point is 00:03:40 player. And he was a good one for KC. He'll be an even better player for the Rams. So the Rams said, hey, man, we are in a Super Bowl window. We are going to go for it. And Trent McDuffie is a lot better than the 29th pick, because the Rams have two first round picks that he gave up one. Here's another team that should do that. The Chicago Bears. They are now this morning the odds-on favorite to sign Raiders, edge rusher, Max Crosby. Go for it. Ben Johnson's an aggressive guy.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Ryan Paul's an aggressive GM. Go for it. It's the number one need edge pressure. It's not a roll of the dice. He's an elite player. Leads the NFL since he entered in tackles for losses. He's two years younger than Miles Garrett, who was just, you know, the defensive player of the year. And here's another reason why you have to strike when the iron is hot in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yesterday, the Bears, all pro center, Drew Dolman, who they just paid a fortune due last year, retired at 27. He's like, yeah, I'm done. Interior O lineman, beat you up physically, I'm done. And so the Bears with Caleb Williams were the number one pass blocking unit and the number seven run blocking unit and anchoring that was this great center from the Falcons that they made a deal for a year ago, Drew Dalman. He just retired. And so you only got two years left with Caleb Williams on the rookie deal. He's going to get expensive real quick. And here's another example of what being passive does in the NFL. Do you see this story yesterday? The goofy Cincinnati Bengals let Trey Hendrickson
Starting point is 00:05:23 walk. Well, they've been talking about a new contract for two years. They don't. sign him. They're passive. They don't trade him and they just let him walk out the door. They get nothing for him. What are you doing? So Kansas City in a similar situation where they have to rebuild parts of their team, they need draft picks. So Kansas City is like, we'll take another one. That'll give the chiefs two first round picks, a fifth and a sixth and a third next year. Next year is the quarterback draft, right? They don't need one. So you got to go. for it. The Bears are picking 25th, which, by the way, if Vegas gave Crosby, traded Crosby to the Raiders, and Vegas got the Bears 25th pick, you know who's available potentially at the 25th pick?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Fernando Mendoza's number one college target, Omar Cooper, the receiver. So you could unite Fernando Mendoza with its number one split end in college. What a great, and that's a huge need for the Raiders. Wide receivers, their number one need outside a quarterback. So it works for everybody. 28-year-old Max Crosby. The Rams, the Rams just did it. Rams said, listen, we need one element to our roster.
Starting point is 00:06:46 We're close, but we got to get an elite corner. There were some good corners in the first round of the draft. They're like, nah, let's go get McDuffie. And I think the Bears are in the same situation. Two more years left in that Caleb Williams' rookie deal. And oh, by the way, here's Max Crosby, who apparently loves Bears coach, Ben Johnson. He's one of the best in the league.
Starting point is 00:07:13 One of the best play callers, without a doubt. He does an incredible job in all facets of offense. You know what I mean? Like the run game, to the past game, to the trickeration, he's really got all that. somebody I respect a lot and I really I can't say much bad things about him
Starting point is 00:07:32 you know what I mean? Every time you go out there against an offense led by him like you got to be on your and be at your best because he's going to make it difficult so yeah respect the hell out of him yeah sounds like he's just planting a seed for the Chicago Bears
Starting point is 00:07:48 Rams just did it this morning hey Matt Stafford two more years let's get solved put Bondo on the one big problem with this team, corner. Get up some draft picks. Even a first round pick. And Max Crosby is a more valuable player than even Trent McDuffie, who's a great corner.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Okay, so this week, now there are those who said we were just trying to stoke the fire, and it was no big deal. But I have been saying the honeymoon is over for Luca with the Lakers. Remember when AD came to the Lakers? the first year they win the COVID championship. Oh, it was all bouquets, flowers, rainbows. Next year, he comes in out of shape. He was, honeymoon was over.
Starting point is 00:08:37 LeBron wasn't happy. That point forward, Anthony Davis, never knew if he was in shape. The honeymoon was over. Right now, James Harden. He's played in nine games for the Cavs. They're eight and one in games he's played. Oh, it's a honeymoon period.
Starting point is 00:08:52 wait to the playoffs. So Luca last year working out in the off-season, everybody bought in. But eventually your game's your game. And defensively, there's just limitations and shortcomings. He also has to have the ball.
Starting point is 00:09:12 So the Lakers really do need to view everything because they're not a championship team this year through the prism of what can we surround Luca Donzich with to protect him. Not elevate him because he has the ball in his hands all the time. Set some screens.
Starting point is 00:09:30 He'll elevate himself. He doesn't need offensive elevation. He's got the ball and he's got control. What he needs is protection on the other end. And so that's the relationship between Luca and JJ Reddick will be as strong as the roster they construct for him. Because remember, superstars in this league are only truly content when you can take away from their responsibilities,
Starting point is 00:09:58 the thing they don't love to do. Magic Johnson, not a great defender. So the Lakers gave up Norm Nixon a multiple-time All-Star for Michael Cooper. All right? So Michael Cooper, I don't think he ever made an All-Star team. He was a great defender, but that's what Magic needed. They let go of a more talented player, Norm Nixon, to get one that could compensate for the weakness of Maddo.
Starting point is 00:10:22 defensively, Michael Cooper, Kobe Bryant. They didn't need wings. They didn't need ball control. They needed Biggs, Shack or Powell, Gasol. So eventually, Kobe could control and facilitate the offense. With Luca, rim protectors, remember when he was in Dallas? They made that deal. They got like PJ Washington.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Not a great player, but a big, long rim defender. Boom. Luca was never happier. So as far as the, you know, that little confrontation on the sideline, J.J. Redick says, no big deal at all. Those things happen, you know, not every game, but they happen very frequently. And, you know, sometimes you have to rehash them with a player or, you know, as a teammate, sometimes it happens player to player.
Starting point is 00:11:18 it's a competition. And, you know, there's two guys here who, in this case, are trying to win a basketball game and be on the same page about stuff. Lucas is going to get much happier when we stop talking about his defensive liabilities because right now the Lakers roster and it's not Lucas' fault or LeBron's fault doesn't protect either. It really does. It just shines a light and it puts a magnifying glass.
Starting point is 00:11:48 on his weakness. Because the Lakers now are just a bunch of lobsided players who need the ball. And Luke is going to have the ball. All right. We've got ourselves. Our first big free agent trade came down a minute before we went on the air.
Starting point is 00:12:05 The Rams are giving up a first, a fifth, and a sixth, and a third next year. That's a haul for Trent McDuffy, top five or six corner in the NFL, who will now go to the Rams with a more consistent pass rush. He'll be the highest. paid at this point, probably highest paid defensive player they have. They're going to work in a new deal. But I think what the Rams are sending the bat signal is, we're going for it.
Starting point is 00:12:29 We're going to have to start paying some of these defensive guys in the next three years. We're going for it. Matt Stafford, getting closer to 40. I think Caleb Williams, two years left on the rookie deal. Max Crosby, the betting favorite, he'll be a bear. Poles Ben Johnson, hyper-aggressive guys. I'd love to see him go for it. What do you make of the Rams Chiefs? What does it say about the Kansas City Chiefs, Jay Mack? Yeah, Kansas City, essentially, Colin, the Chiefs just don't have a lot of talent on that roster. I mean, we talked about this for a couple months now.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Imagine going through your roster, free agency's coming up. You're up against the cap and you're like, damn, we can't pay McDuffie. We need talent. We got to trade him. They got a good haul. I would say it's a good pick for the Chiefs. But, Colin, you look at that defense in the youth and the lack of talent. I mean, are they a top three or four team in the AFC?
Starting point is 00:13:18 I know just with Mahomes and Reed, you're a contender. I don't think they're a top two roster in their own division. I don't think that's a hot take either. I mean, listen, it's a good trade for them. They need picks. They certainly got that. I think the Rams is a home run because I was just looking at their lineup. Lake, you know, Quentin Lake, who was injured last season.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He was kind of a chess piece that played a lot of safety, but a lot of in the slot, too. He can now go back to roaming as safety. McDuffie slides into slot. I think this is huge for the Rams. they've got to be the Super Bowl favorites at this point, right? I mean, this is a two-time old pro you're getting. Yeah. All right, great stuff.
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Starting point is 00:19:27 For a while, very shortly, there was the run and shoot. Didn't work. The Wildcat offense lasted about, you know, 12 weeks, eventually didn't work. And undersized quarterbacks. Tua, Kyler, Bryce Young's 14 and 30, Johnny Mansell, Dylan, Gabriel. Three of the last four seasons, Kyler can't, he didn't play a full season. So the NBA is a tall man's game and the NFL is a big strong man's game and I think Kyler's super talented, but I'll give you an example of this morning I went and looked at the height. Forget the names, forget the players.
Starting point is 00:20:06 The height of the top 10 passer ratings in the NFL. The height. Number one is 6-4, then 6-3, then 6-4, 6-2, 6-5, 6-4, 6-4, the short guy, 6-1. 6562. Who's the short guy? Oh, Brock Purdy, who has as a coach, the quarterback whisperer, Kyle Shanahan, who made Mack Jones look very viable last year, and we all thought his career was over. And Brock Purdy's a seventh round pick. In fact, top 20 pass are rating, only two guys under six two. One is Brock Purdy with the quarterback whisper. The other is Jalen Hertz. And aren't we having a discussion every year on, to the Eagles pass the ball well enough,
Starting point is 00:20:52 with an elite receiver tight-end combo. So I think Russell Wilson got a lot of guys drafted that were undersized. And, you know, he had about an eight, nine year period with Marshawn Lynch, you know, with a semi-stacked roster, with the best defense in football. He won a lot of games. He got to a couple of Super Bowls, and he got a lot of guys drafted. But with Kyler Murray, I would take inexpensive. and unathletic Mac Jones, old Aaron Rogers,
Starting point is 00:21:22 and probably Ty Simpson, drafting Ty Simpson mid to late first round over Kyler, and I've been a Kyler fan for a long time. Here was Matt Hasselback earlier this week on him. I like him. He's got elite traits, elite. I mean, he's a ridiculous athlete with his legs. I would fear that if I was a decorinator.
Starting point is 00:21:42 He throws a beautiful, beautiful ball. It's some of the leadership stuff, though. It's the body language. maybe there are these, you know, these reclamation projects, guys like Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, who've really turned the corner, struggled early, turned the corner, great success story. I mean, for Kyler, he has elite characteristics athletically. But he is undersized. And, I mean, we were talking this morning as a staff.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Bryce Young got to the playoffs in a bad division, but he's 14 and 30 in his passer ratings. I think high 80s. It's a big man sport. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Having a great show, Roland.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Couldn't help but take a swing. Just a jab. A little jab at my guy, Brock Purdy. But all right, let's get to the trade, Colin. Rams and Chiefs make a big swap. The Rams getting two-time all-pro Trent McDuffie in exchange for this year's 29th overall pick, a fifth, a sixth, and a two-th
Starting point is 00:22:46 2007 third. That 2,027 third is interesting. If the Rams end up winning the Super Bowl, that's probably going to be at the end of the third round. So not huge value. Colin, I'm not sure why the Rams wouldn't be Super Bowl favorites at this point, right? They've got the best roster. I just went through every position group, and they're loaded.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Landman at linebacker. The front four needs no introduction. Now the secondary is elite adding McDuffie. Offense. senator receiver. You got great tight ends. They went with three tight ends this year. The running back room is loaded. What do they do with the pick in the teens? I believe it's 13th. I would guess they would go for a wide receiver from USC. Mackay Lemon. He solves their special teams return duties and Devonte Adams is about 32 or 33. So he would be the future
Starting point is 00:23:43 alongside Puka and he would solve their return duties for punt. Remember that big turnover they had? Oh, yeah. So he solves two of their problems and McDuffie solves their corner problems. So they got a first second and a third. I would guess they'd go wide receiver, offensive tackle and safety, and they're ready to roll. Interesting. I always think swing offensive linemen.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Havenstein retired and now at right tackle. There's some question mark, although the fifth rounder they played did do well. Colin, I will just say, if you're the Rams, remember, McVeigh and Sneed don't go to the combine. They send, you know, their troops who are going to do all the interviews. My guess is they sent their on the ground folks. They took a look at the defensive backs. They spoke to them. I said, guys, we can't find someone who's going to have the impact or near it of a McDuffie.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Let's go grab him. Let's give up the 29th and some other picks. This to me is a home, like a grand slam for the Rams. For the Chiefs, I think it's a good deal. I mean, as you said earlier, they're going to have two first round picks. So right there, they can solve their tackle situation
Starting point is 00:24:49 in one of those two picks. I mean, I think they have to go get a right tackle. That's paramount. And then the other pick, it's not a good running back draft. Or maybe they get lucky and the running back love falls to them. They take him and a tackle late in the first round. Late first round, you've got four or five potential
Starting point is 00:25:04 interesting tackle prospects. So I think they can solve some of the stuff surrounding. They also need an edge rusher, but you could pick that up in the second round. So they're going to have now two ones, a second. I think they have a third. They're going to have a couple fives, a couple sixes. It's a good space for Brett Beech the GM. I agree. I will say, you know when you do those Chiefs matchups, a big game, a Thursday night game, Monday night, and it's like Chiefs Eagles, here are the 10 best players. McDuffie was always a lock to be in there. Kelsey's retiring.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Who are the Chief's Blue Chip players right now today, Colin? Well, they also gave up Joe Tooney last year and Trent McDuffie. So they don't. They have what I would call one truly elite player. Chris Jones had a down year, but he and he and Mahalms, what they've got to get. I mean, once you pay the quarterback, you have got to get, you've got to make deals like this. They don't have any elite playmaker. Their center is excellent, obviously.
Starting point is 00:26:01 But there just isn't a lot of talent. I know Chiefs fans don't want to hear that. It's going to be, I'm telling you. Let's see what happens in free agency. It's going to be interesting if they make the playoffs next year, Colin. I don't think it's a lock. Oh, I don't think it's a lock either. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And Mahomes is coming off surgery. Yeah. All right, let's move on to the next story. And that's Fernando Mendoza, obviously being the leading odds-on guy to be the number one pick. But who's going to be the second quarterback taken? Okay, last year it was a big surprise. A lot of people had Shador. Obviously, ended up not being Shadour.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I was shocked to see the odds are Ty Simpson going to the Jets are plus two-fifil. I don't know who's setting these lines, but the Jets to draft Ty Simpson, they're not taking him early. First of all, they're not taking him early. The Steelers make the most sense. First of all, the Steelers have, I think, 10 picks. I may be shorting them. They have 10 or 11 picks.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Okay. So they, and the Steelers, frankly, have to get younger and cheaper on defense, but they don't need a ton. What they need is a future quarterback, and then they can load up, because I think offensive. they need a number two receiver. They need a quarterback for the future. Then I would go heavy defense
Starting point is 00:27:15 to get cheaper on defense. But it could end up, I'll tell you right now, it could be a very, very good draft for the Steelers. If they could land Simpson and a number two receiver and then just load up the defense, Mike McCarthy, he is
Starting point is 00:27:32 slowly pivoting this, which we talked about for years, to an offense first franchise. And I've got, I got I really believe with 10 picks, I can see the Steelers moving up, not a ton, but give away a four, maybe to move up a few spots to get him mid-first. What if the owner steps in and says, the last time we drafted a quarterback who had just one hot shot year was Kenny Pickett?
Starting point is 00:27:56 I think Kenny Pickett's working at the local Arby's in Philadelphia right now or something. Like, Colin, it's a risk to take Ty Simpson. How come we're not talking about Carson Beck or Drew Aller from Penn State big, strapping guys? I think Ty Simpson's a better person. prospect by far. Okay. Yeah, I think he is clearly the second best prospect in a weak class. For those betting the draft, do not bet on the Jets to draft High Simpson.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I mean, you can never say it's never happening. It just doesn't make any sense at all. Let's see what happens with Kyler Murray. There's a lot of Kyler Murray jets chatter as I vomit in my mouth. Final story, Colin, college basketball last night. One of your favorite topics, Darren Peterson picked up kind of, I thought, a weak offensive foul here. You can see it down at the bottom of the screen.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Bill Self proceeded to lose. his mind and was ejected. Yeah. After the ejection, Kansas went on to basically just offer nothing and they got blown out by Arizona State. Kind of a bad loss. ASU was up 20 at the half. After the game, Bill Self said the crew was pretty temperamental. What cost us, though, was we weren't ready to play. I was willing to give out Kansas as a sneaky final 14, maybe win the title
Starting point is 00:29:05 because they've got an elite player. But they got some bad losses on the ledger. blown out later. Yeah. Jay Mackle, the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. Well, Terrick Scouble has been the dominant pitcher in baseball back-to-back years.
Starting point is 00:29:22 The Tigers, he's led them to wildcard appearances. Best ERA, Sy Young winner, favor to win the Cy Young next year. He is part of the World Baseball Classic, which is a really fun event. It starts tomorrow. And Terik Scouble is now joining us live. We're lucky to have him. The best pitcher in baseball. right now who by the way i read this morning on your resume i'm from the pacific northwest
Starting point is 00:29:44 that the only scholarship offer you got was seattle university and i've got to be honest terrick i knew they had a basketball program i didn't know they had a baseball program i'm sorry the red hawks i'm sorry do you remember that start in your career well yeah no doubt no doubt i mean i'm very appreciative um obviously out of you they saw something that nobody else in the country saw from a Division I program. So it's a ton of fun going there, going to Seattle. It always has a special place in my heart. And the coaching staff there was great for me.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah. By the way, Josh Allen couldn't get a Buffalo Bill quarterback, couldn't get a scholarship offer either. So I love stories like this. So you were one appearance in the world baseball classic. It's going to be Saturday against Great Britain. I don't think they're going to be ready for your turbo slider and your four seamer. That's my take.
Starting point is 00:30:34 They have jazz chisholm. But when's the last time you faced a, team and you didn't really know the lineup um yeah i mean it kind of happens in spring training a little bit sometimes you know when teams are you know especially in florida when teams are sending guys that are you know two and a half hour drive or whatever so sometimes you get some lineups that you're not very comfortable with um we're going to have a lot of scouting and preparation on these guys so i'm i'm i feel just as confident as as any other start for this one so it's amazing U.S. men's and women's hockey team just won gold.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And I've said before, I'm not a diehard hockey guy, but there is nothing like Olympic hockey. I suddenly become a massive fan. And I mean, do you think, like have the players on the World Baseball Classic like Team USA, you guys got your money, you've got your careers, you have your professions. Did that, did you watch the Olympic hockey? And, I mean, you're kind of vibe and feeling, playing for them representing the country. no doubt no doubt i think i mean the women's and men's games were both electric um and you know that the men's game i think was 8 a m in in florida everyone's there we got our coffee we got our breakfast we're watching
Starting point is 00:31:43 this game we have a team meeting um you know when it when it starts we start to boo you know like we want to watch the game because they turn the speed up uh we go out we do our stretch i come back in and right as i came back in uh overtime started so i got to watch the last you know two minutes or whatever it was, and it was electric. And, I mean, the people that were out on the field still, they said when they won, they could hear it. You know, everyone was yelling and stuff when Team USA, when Quinn Hughes makes that goal. So it was a ton of fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:32:13 All right. Back to back. Saw Young winner, favorite for a third. Terrick Scoobel is representing the world baseball classic, the country. Aaron Judge, Yankee Slugger, quality guy. I mean, he just, just his size, his dimension, an opportunity now. he's on your club. What did he say yesterday when he addressed the team?
Starting point is 00:32:32 I think, you know, the messaging and what he's got going on, obviously, you know, he's the captain of the Yankees. He's the captain of our team. He's a big reason that I'm here a part of this team. You know, I want to be teammates with Aaron Judd, just being around greatness like that. And when he speaks, you know, everybody listens.
Starting point is 00:32:47 So, you know, post-game yesterday, too, he said some really cool things. So I'm excited to, you know, get to know them and establish that relationship. You know, baseball is, it's grind. It's a long season. I mean, you've had, I think, 31 starts each of the last two years. It's the summer. It's hot. It's, and, you know, it's funny for a guy like you who's dominant. You know, everybody wants to get to the bullpen quickly. When in like the world baseball classic,
Starting point is 00:33:14 will it be, I wonder if it will be managed by Mark DeRosa the same way that the regular season and the playoffs are. Because in baseball playoffs, as you know, Drake, you, you could, you know, you'll go longer innings if you're pitching well. Everything kind of changed. changes, the paradigm shifts in playoff baseball. How do you think the managing will go in the world baseball classic? Because everybody, like an All-Star game, everybody wants their at bats and everybody wants a chance. Yeah, that's a good question for Dero.
Starting point is 00:33:42 As far as how it's going to handle, you know, for me, obviously there's pitch counts because it's early in spring and we're building up to obviously our season and not everybody's kind of built up to go 100 pitches or whatever it is. So he's going to have a fun job of managing that. and, you know, with what we got going on to in the talent of arms that we have, I like our odds against anybody, you know, however those decisions get made, you know, I think there's going to be piggyback starters
Starting point is 00:34:07 and starter goes here, we go to a reliever, and then we give the next starter a clean inning, and then, you know, hopefully it's the seventh, eighth, ninth, and I don't think anybody wants to face the guys that we got in the seventh eighth or ninth inning, so it's going to be a ton of fun. I know Dero's got his work cut out for him and Andy Pettit, so I'll leave those decisions up to those guys. I've got to ask you a final question.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Terek Scouble is a dominant picture for the Detroit Tigers. I have been defending the Dodgers. I have said, listen, it took them seven games to win the World Series. They were outplayed mostly by Toronto. Had they lost the World Series, everybody would have loved it. I said, but baseball has been on a two-year renaissance. The ratings, the revenue is up, and people keep saying, we're going to have a strike. And my take is, listen, small market Milwaukee was great.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Detroit's fantastic, but so are the Phillies, the Yankees, and the Dodgers. If the Astros were healthy, they would be good. The Mariners are good. The Guardians won. So I look at it and I say to myself, okay, like Oakland A's, who I think were your favorite team growing up, I'm like, okay, the A's are transitioning and, you know, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh don't have big money. The game feels incredibly healthy to me, but there are fans and people that say, oh,
Starting point is 00:35:20 it's too dominant at the top. How does it land for you? Yeah, I don't think, I agree with you. I think our game is in a really good spot. It's healthy. I think the World Series, this last World Series was as good of a World Series as any series. The playoffs in general, you know, even Seattle, Toronto went seven games. Us and Seattle went five games.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And when I'm sitting in my shoes, you know, and then, you watch the World Series. It's like, we lost game five. We had a chance to go seven with Toronto. And if we win game seven, we're in the World Series. You know, and I think that competitive atmosphere, is great for sports, you know, and great for baseball. I think the fans are showing us that it's great. Ratings are up, attendance is up.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Everything's there. So I'm not quite sure the frustration is warranted from certain fans, you know, and saying that small market teams don't have a chance because I think they do, and there's things in our CBA that help small market teams. And Milwaukee, they had the most wins in the National League last year. So I'm just, I'm a little confused by those types of statements, you know, when they come out or when they're presenting. or however they're presented from MLB,
Starting point is 00:36:26 because I think the way the game is right now, it's beautiful. It's beautiful in every aspect, you know, starting pitching, bullpen work, defense, lineups, all that type of stuff. And you're going to see that at the WBC as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Terek, credit to the game, you know, you talked about, before we let you go, World Baseball Classic starts tomorrow. You guys won 15, one over the Giants and kind of a primer, is how do you, there are guys on this,
Starting point is 00:36:53 team that you'll be facing in big spots this year in rivalry games. You know, it's like, I mean, you're going to be competing against some of these guys here in a few weeks. Is that odd at all? I don't think so. I actually, I love this atmosphere that we got. I love the group that we got. You know, just the short interactions last two days with the entire team have been great. You know, anytime you get a group of guys that are united playing for, you know, USA, the stuff on our chest, I think it's going to be special. And obviously, when you go back to competing against them on other clubs, you'll have unique relationships with them and stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:29 And there will probably be some more acknowledgement, you know, in the box on the mound and stuff like that. But as far as competition goes, it's the same game. You know, I'm going to try and I want all these guys to come up and hit and rake and all our guys to pitch really well. But once I step across the lines, you know, I'm going to try and strike them out. And then hopefully our guys tag them up a little bit. But for the next two weeks, it's all going to be about USA and the Stars and Stripes
Starting point is 00:37:50 and trying to win a gold medal. All right. your favor to win the American League Central. Hasn't happened in a while, but you've been a playoff team. Congratulations on your success. Favor to win a third straight Sy Young Award. And thanks for giving our show 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Good luck to you. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. You bet. Yeah, pretty decent roster. Apparently, 15 to 1 exhibition win over the Giants. US had 19 hits. So good stuff. All right. Rams have made a trade.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Bears are favorites to land. Max Crosby. So I do this every year. Rick Petino is joining us next hour as well. I do the first 15 picks, my mock draft. It's a draft if I was the general manager. What would I do? I've always said if I didn't do this for a living and it would have never come to fruition, but if I would have given all my energy to being a football scout and becoming a general manager,
Starting point is 00:38:47 that would be what I'd want to do. Most of my sources are GMs or former GMs. So I'm going to give you my first 15 picks sometime in the next half hour. What would I do a surprise number two pick? What would I do if I was GM in the first 15 picks of the draft? In Chicago, it's the herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast. called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:39:24 We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down. Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:04 But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life, one hot flash and hormonal crying, jagged, You ladies know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I'll bet you a paramedipausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it. Join me on my new podcast. How hard can it be with the Adamia Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that mess was going to be.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Mood swings, night sweats, fupas, sex drive. Wait, what sex? Dating at 45. How hard can it be getting naked at 50 with the new guy? That one's kind of hard. Well, that's lighting. They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears or tears of laughter,
Starting point is 00:41:04 and dive into it, unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast, Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows, without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
Starting point is 00:41:54 He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court,
Starting point is 00:42:09 licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out. real quick. Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:42:27 This week on Crimless, we're joined by our first ever guest. Sorry, our first ever human guest. I don't think I could be in the same room with Shamrock the parrot. I'd be too nervous. That's right. The very funny, Will Farrell, joins Rory Scovel and me, Josh Dean, for an episode dedicated to the many crimes committed by people also named Will Farrell.
Starting point is 00:42:51 They called to his fellow officer for the nippers. What are the nippers? Very good question. No, I was thinking, would that be a good name for like a salad dressing? Simple assault? And it's a play on word, salt? Maybe not. I say we invest and we see. There's only one way to know. This did not amuse the cops.
Starting point is 00:43:10 By the way, normally the cops are amused, but this did not abuse the cops. Will even comes clean about some of his own crimes. I didn't get caught. You know why? If you don't want to be suspected of anything,
Starting point is 00:43:23 you whistle as you walk. Listen to crime lists on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Rick Petino, St. John's head coach, stops by the show. Always a great guest. A lot of information, a lot of wisdom,
Starting point is 00:43:42 a lot of knowledge. So this actually is funny. Sam Amico, he lives in Ohio. He is a Cleveland Cavaliers Insider, so he's been doing it for a long time. And he put his name on it, and he put it out there,
Starting point is 00:44:01 that LeBron returning to Cleveland, because I think it's understood, we've talked about this, LeBron and Luca, the new Dodger, now Laker owners, there is very little belief that LeBron's in the big long-term plans. So where would he go? Still got a place in Cleveland, couldn't sell it in Akron. So Sam Amico says, LeBron and Cleveland is happening.
Starting point is 00:44:25 I've heard it's like 99% or 95% if he is willing to take what the caps could offer him, which wouldn't be much more than the mid-level exception next season, even with some moves, because they're still over the second apron. Okay, so LeBron in Cleveland is sort of becoming Rachel and Ross on Friends. They were hot and heavy for seven years in Cleveland, a lot of love. And then LeBron, and this brought tears from everybody on the set, broke up with her, went to sexy Miami and had a South Beach fling for four years. She comes down to Miami for a weekend, puts on the full court press, and Rachel lures Ross back into the relationship. Dan Gilbert goes down to Miami, covert dinner, lures LeBron back to Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I mean, LeBron was born in Cleveland. Every decade of his life, it would be fitting if he was in Cleveland, right? Teens, 20s, 30s, how about 40s? And then, by the way, after Rachel lures Ross back to Cleveland, there's a ring involved, and he still dumps her again, and this time goes to Los Angeles for another fling. But the thing is, that relationship dumps LeBron. And he's like, okay, my bad. I'm going back to Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I loved you all along. So this is becoming Rachel and Ross. A fling. He bales. He's back. There's a ring. He bails. She dumps him.
Starting point is 00:46:13 And now he goes back. And I don't know if it's going to happen. I mean, LeBron. Teens, 20s, 30s has been in Cleveland, and I think 40s sounds perfect. So Mike Schoefsky this week was talking to Jeff Goodman. And I always thought there's a handful of things in sports that are very hard to screw up. The Super Bowl, Ohio State Michigan football, the Masters, and March Madness. but reportedly college basketball may try to screw it up and go from 68 teams to 98.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It's like timeout, time out, time out. Last year, the average margin in the first round was 17 points. Do we need double the blowouts? I mean, there were 20 of the games were double-digit differences. Many were 20-point blowouts plus. So Coach K on the rumors of tournament expansion. That's a big mistake, you know, like one, there are less teams capable right now than ever before. And there are many have-nots, and it's not their fault.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And I don't think you mess with something that is gold, you know, like, It's gold. I think the thing you should mess with is getting a leadership group and having them study and see what happens with that group. I mean, they already, a few years ago, it was like 64 teams, starts on Thursday, LFG. And then they screwed with it because, you know, somebody complains, somebody feels slided at a directional school. And now it starts on Tuesday and Wednesday, and there's the first four.
Starting point is 00:48:20 And it's like, what do I do with my bracket? Do I have to pick other games? It's like, like the more people you let into a club, it dilutes the club. Like, it's perfect. It started on Thursday. It was 64. There's no reason to be 68. None of those playing teams are winning.
Starting point is 00:48:38 We don't need to go to 98. Don't screw it up. You know, it's like one of the reasons that the Masters is so great, because the average PGA event. has like 150 golfers. The master's under 100. That's what makes the master special. It's the best of the best.
Starting point is 00:48:53 It's why it takes Rory McElroy, 17 tries to win it. So I, and I think Mike Shishafsky pointed out something, and this is the real truth. The transfer portal in the NIL, it's the gold rush. Not everybody gets rich. The people selling the pots and the pans got rich. and a handful of people struck rich with gold, most don't. Same with the NIL and the transfer portal. It has made the teams at the top in college basketball even stronger.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I mean, Michigan is just stacked with size, very rare size. But it's also, and there's good and there's bad to everything. The transfer portal now allows kids to leave just like coaches. The NIL, you know, college athletes are driving some of these numbers. Now they get paid. the downside is in college basketball when you have 350 Division I programs, the bottom now, it's hard for a small, let's say a school like Belmont in Nashville, kind of a private school, good basketball program, gets a really good player.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Well, boom, you know, Michigan's going to go buy him. In fact, Michigan's best player, I think was at UAB, and he was like going to be a second round guy and Michigan comes in, signs a big check. Boom, they lose their best player and he goes to Michigan. So the NIL and college basketball can really fix holes. And a lot of those holes are fixed. It's almost like the pirates or the Yankees' AAA system. You know, Paul Steens, once you've got to pay him, he'll be a Yankee.
Starting point is 00:50:26 It's a little like baseball in that regard where you've got, there is a gap between Dodgers, Yankees, and bottom. Nobody would deny that. I've always just said with baseball, the middle and top is bigger than you think. I mean, there's only like four teams that can win the NBA championship. right now. Toronto should have won the World Series. There are seven teams next year. The Cubs, the Padres,
Starting point is 00:50:47 the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets should be better, the Astros if they're healthy, the Tigers, the Mariners, the Brewers, there's a lot of teams in baseball. The middle up is really good in baseball. The bottom's bad. You get the same thing in college basketball right now. So
Starting point is 00:51:03 adding teams would not add teams from the top or middle. It would add teams from the bottom. And we just have more blowouts. Now, J-MAC loves March Madness, but I do think what makes it special is right now with 68 teams, there are potential upsets on the first day. Not a lot, but if you go to 98, it's just more 24-point blowouts. Possibly, yes, but Colin, at the same time, you know, you keep mentioning baseball, NBA, NFL.
Starting point is 00:51:32 There's like 30 teams, 32 teams. College basketball has 365 teams. to only let in 68? I mean, I'm okay with a little expansion. Is it going to dilute it initially? Yeah, probably. They'll be like, oh, I missed the old March madness. But that's normal.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I think over time, people are going to be fine with it. Coaches, you know, would love this. Schools would get a chance. Hey, we finally got to the big dance. Like, I don't see why we can't be more inclusive. But then again, I like to help the little guy out. You like to exclude the little guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Like to just keep them at bay. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, the Cincinnati Reds made the playoffs last year. They got extinguished quickly, but this idea that nobody, it's always cracks me out with baseball, everybody freaks out about the disparity. It's like the Brewers, the Reds, the Mariners, the Guardians, there's enough little guys.
Starting point is 00:52:27 They're root for the big guys once in a while. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
Starting point is 00:52:43 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it out. We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021. And I'm Conkie, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast. taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Listen to the 1021 podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was crying. You just understood.
Starting point is 00:53:55 That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come in, he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Every family has its secrets.
Starting point is 00:54:13 But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life. That is not the look of an innocent man. Is everyone lying to me about who they are? I felt such desperation. I felt it was what I had to do. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
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