The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd-HOUR 1-College athletes, Lakers, MLB

Episode Date: August 11, 2020

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We are loaded on a Tuesday. We have Real Sports live in Los Angeles. This show is called The Hurt. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, Fox Sports Radio, FS1, it is great to have you in. Joy Taylor is joining me. Everybody from comedian Bill Burr to Bruce Feldman College football. Urban Meyer stops by today.

Jason Lights, the GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's got a new quarterback named Tom Brady. Maybe you've heard of him. Joy, how are you? I'm great. It's a lot going on this morning. There is. I don't think I'm a guy with an agenda.

I can pick both sides. I voted for both parties for president. I'm not a big agenda guy. I'm kind of an independent guy. So I see this this morning. Nick Saban comes out and says, players aren't going to catch the virus in the football field. They're going to catch it on a campus.

He goes on to say, we've been testing all summer. We have a 2% positive ratio on our team since the 4th of July. He goes, it's a lot higher than that in society. You can get it if you play football. You can get it if you're at a bar. You can get it at a beach. You can get it hanging out.

Of course, Nick Saving is right. Here's also some data that is in, and this is not disputable. Athletes in bubbles, athletes in semi-bubbles, athletes on team in America, any team, college or pro. have a significantly lower shot of getting COVID. Those are not disputable. If you want to argue it, you've got an agenda. This is not what I have. So far, if you do catch it as an athlete,

the death rate is zero. You are now safer with your pro team in a bubble. That is not disputable. Nobody even tests positive in a bubble. and now you're all so safer statistically in a university semi-bubble. I looked at all the stats this morning, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama. Even baseball gets criticized. They've had 13,000 tests.

Point one have been positive. Oh, we're freaking out. That's the crisis sport. Baseball, 13,000 tests. Point one percent positive. We live in a country now where we pick and choose what we can do. Airlines, 250 seats, American Airlines, all sold. Jam together, five-hour flight.

I don't see you going on Twitter screaming about that. You can eat inside and outside. Restaurants all over America. You are fighting for your right to do that. I ate insider restaurant in Parks City, Utah, this weekend. I'm going to eat outside in one tonight. And I'm fighting for my right to do it. You can go to the beach anywhere in America.

Sit right next to somebody with no mask. and you're fighting for your right to do it. But yet I'm outraged by kids in a semi-bubble with doctors everywhere playing college football. I'm not. 13 big 10 campuses are allowing students on campus without the supervision of doctors and getting tested four times a week. Nick Saban said yesterday, our kids can be tested every day if they want to be. Every single day. I go to the grocery store.

that lady at the checkout or that guy, they're not getting tested every day. The players in college football are getting tested three times a week. Now, yesterday there was great concern, and this is a real issue, right? A rare heart condition has surfaced called microcarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle. And I'm going to read you this verbatim. The condition is usually caused by viral infections,

including the common cold influenza and mono. For the record, anybody with a college student knows Mono is everywhere in a college campus, everywhere. And you can catch it from COVID. The story continues, left undiagnosed and untreated, it could cause heart damage. But there's a reason when I don't feel well, I go to a doctor and not an architect. Because doctors diagnose and treat. And if you're a college kid and get it and you can get it anywhere in America, you've got a better

chance, if you're a college athlete surrounded by testing and doctors, to get it diagnosed early and treated. That's why we go to doctors. Once a year I feel sick, maybe once every two years. I go to a doctor. He diagnoses something and then treats it. I am not saying this shouldn't be of concern. What I'm saying is, we've got numbers now. It is safer to be on a college campus as an athlete surrounded by tests and protocol and doctors and supervisors.

I told you yesterday, I have a college daughter. I'd much rather she lived with volleyball players getting tested than the people she lives with now, boyfriends who I don't trust at 20 years old to wear masks and socially distance. In college athletics, you have to do both. I'll make you wear a mask.

They'll test you every day and they'll be social distancing. But it's funny, you an American out. We're just picking and choosing what we're outraged by. Airlines are packed. You would call the airline and scream if they wouldn't let you fly and see your mom. Restaurants are

jammed where I live, and you'd fight and yell and scream when they're not open. Beaches. You're taking away my freedoms. People are next to each other, all over. I can't figure out why you can put people in a tube at 33,000

feet for five hours. Joy was on one of these planes, but you can't go to a Dodger game? What? And have 6,000, 8,000 people in a vast stadium wearing masks? I mean, I don't understand it. I'm lost on this. And I would be concerned, too. I support any program or player that wants to opt out.

This is not some dogma that you have to play. But we've got data now. These sports are working. The bubble sports are unbelievable. Hockey's not. a billion tests, no positive. NBA's been unbelievable. Lou Williams likes an occasional chicken wing.

Give the guy a break. Don't label him for life. I mean, and in these college numbers, I'm looking at Ohio States, Michigan, Alabama. I'm looking at all of them today. Texas, USC. There's doctors everywhere. They're vetted everywhere.

They don't want to be sued. So I hope we have college football. I doubt it. I doubt it. I think there's just liability and lawyers now are running this, but I think you have an agenda if you think a college kid is safer on a campus non-athletic kid than an athlete. I think the athlete's much safer.

I don't even think it's arguable. I'm looking at all the number. You're not getting tested six times a week as a chemistry major. You are as a football player. All right. Lakers last night. Beat Denver. Gutty performance.

Very, I mean, this is one for the ages. This will go down in Laker Lour as one of the all-timers. Here's how it ended. LeBron to inbound. H. D.A.P. is on him. Anthony Davis picked up by bowl. Here comes Kuzma for the win. Got it!

124, 121. What a shot by Kyle Kuzma. Yes, Kyle Kuzma and the Laker starters, including LeBron that played the entire fourth quarter, eeked out a win over Denver that didn't play any of their starters at all in the fourth quarter. Even after that game, the Lakers are still last in three-point percentage, last in field goal percentage, and last in points in the bubble. Last.

That is with LeBron James. That is with Anthony Davis. that would be like having five kids, two of your daughters are supermodels, and you still got voted the ugliest family. How homely would your sons have to be? Folks, if you have LeBron and AD and you're last in the bubble offensively, what does that tell you about the rest of the cast? You know, for years and years,

LeBron James in the East, there would be these fools gold number one seeds. Remember Toronto and Atlanta, Eric Rose in Chicago and Roy Hibbert and the Pacers. And they would be number one seeds and LeBron would come in and whack them. They were fools gold. The difference is now LeBron went west and he's on the number one seed that's fool's gold. I am picking Portland to beat the Lakers.

The Lakers cannot defend the three. Last night, Denver shot 57% on threes. Did not miss any in the fourth. Denver's backups did not miss any in the fourth. If you can't shoot the three and you can't defend the three, you can't beat Portland. Gary Trent, Jr., Dame, C.J. McCollum, equal size. I, I, this, why is everybody afraid to say this? LeBron knows it.

I mean, LeBron was saying after Kuzma shot last night, listen carefully to LeBron. In order to first winning championship, he has to be our third best player. And if I'm struggling, or if 80 struggling, he has to be our second best player, you know, any given night. I mean, it's just, we can't win a championship with Kuz has to play well. And Coos doesn't play well every third game. Listen, I live in Los Angeles.

People look at me, I can see it. Why are you so down on the Lakers? I'm not down on the Clippers. I'm not down on the Dodgers. I'm not down on LAAFC. If I talked hockey, I wouldn't be down on the Kings. I'm down on this Laker team. I think they're a fool's goal number one.

I think they kept their starters in last night to prove a point against Denver. they need wins, they need confidence. Because I don't think LeBron, outside of AD, trust any. A-N-Y, caps, all caps, any of his teammates to be that third star. Coming up next, it's a suggestion from a sport that is generally rigid, and I like the suggestion. That's coming up. Plus, Scott Frost says at Nebraska, we're playing football,

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A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered.

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I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. They're finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black. black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you

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Good to have you. Enjoy. Taylor is joining us. You know, I've said this before. 2020 is not a good year to be rigid. It is not. I'm not a big fan of rigidity. I don't like rigid people, but this is a bad year to be rigid. You have got to be able to just roll the punches. Baseball, I've been critical of it for years.

It can be so uptight and so rigid. But I've got to be honest with you. They've done a pretty damn good job with this. and baseball, unlike the other sports, is not in a bubble. Baseball is doing national travel. Baseball, unlike football, baseball's international. These are young men in baseball. They're young men.

Do you realize young men make more mistakes than anybody in society? You can go to FBI statistics, 18 to 27-year-old men. Now women commit most crimes. Young men make, they're young men. They're full of testosterone. own and bad judgment. And baseball's got, you know, it's mostly 23 to 33-year-old young men

all over the country, not in a bubble, national travel, extended stays in cities, they get bored out of their minds, they're not going to sit around watching Matlock. 13,000 tests. Point one have been positive. This is a success story, baseball yesterday said. We're in a preliminary

talks to create a bubble, a couple of mini-bubbles for the playoffs, Southern California, Chicago, New York. I think this is a great idea. I do not think, however, it's necessary. But I do like that baseball is going, hey, listen, it's going pretty well outside of the Marlins and Cardinals. 29 teams don't have any issues, but, you know, 28, 29 don't have issues. Marlins, problems, they've solved it.

Cardinals, a little bit of an issue. But let's get even better on this. Folks, my bigger problem is with the media, not baseball. Baseball was always going to be hard. Young men, national travel, hotels for four days. It's easy to stay in your hotel in St. Louis or Cincinnati for four days. It's not in Miami, New York, Boston, L, A, San Francisco, Texas. Baseball is a success story.

UFC A-plus, Gulf A-plus, NASCAR A-plus, NBA A-plus, hockey A-plus, baseball B. Well, we have to have perfect students? You can't have a B in the family? In the sports family, baseball's done a very good job. And even now, willing to adapt, let's do even better. I'm watching board baseball than I've watched in years. But my bigger problem is the narratives created by the media. Listen, the Marlins have been a mess my entire life.

If I had told you, there's one team that will be totally unraveled during COVID. You'd be like, oh, the Marlins. St. Louis Cardinals are the only really good team that's issue. Spend some postponements. They'll have to do seven-inning stuff and double-headers. But this is working. These leagues are doing a great job. These kids, I mean, listen, I'm a dad. Like, I just build in mistakes for my kids. You know, like my wife and I always laugh. Unless there's blood or the house is on fire, don't call us. Your kids, you'll make mistakes. If there's blood, houses on fire, give us a ring. We'll come save you. But baseball players,

They're 27-year-old guys. You're asking them to stay in a room for four days on the road. A couple guys go to a strip club. Go to a bar. Okay. What do you want me to do? Spankings? 13,000 tests.

Point one are positive. And they're willing to adapt. I say it's a success story. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, my heat and Pacers met last night in their first matchup since

January. I didn't see this game. I did not see this game. It did not go well for the pacer's. Tough night for the Pacers. Jimmy Butler and T.J. Warren got in a heated situation back in January, the last time they played. But it was also Butler's first game back after missing three with a foot injury. And he didn't disappoint. He had 19 points, 11 rebounds, five assists and four steals in Miami's one 1492 win over Indiana. And Warren was only kept to 12 points, the lowest for him so far in the bubble. He's pretty much been the key for the Pacers and the Pacers four wins. Warren has scored at least 32 points.

Yeah, no, he's an emerging star in the league, T.J. Warren. Yes, and in the two losses, he's only scored 12 and 16. I watched the Jimmy Butler commercial last night. I saw a national commercial. I got to tell you, the Jimmy Butler moved to Miami. I shook my head out. It's absolutely worked.

It was the right thing. It's pretty clear now that his personality just did not fit with those organizations and it fits perfectly with Miami because Miami has never had a problem being the villains. And they're good with stars. Exactly. Exactly. That is that is the essence of Pat Riley. It's how he's built the culture. Be tough. Have a little bit of finesse, but be tough. And it's okay if everybody doesn't like you as long as your winners. When he left Philadelphia, I can admit I'm wrong on this. This will be a calling wrong next week. I said, why are you leaving leaving this great roster. Now I look at Philadelphia and I'm like he got tired of Ben

Simmons Act. He got tired of M. Bede's silliness and he got tired of the process. Jimmy Butler made the right call here. He went to a historically better organization, a better, you know, a more, what we consider it, more successful coach. And you watch Miami and I'm like, they got undrafted guys starting. They got a young star. And bam, it's like Jimmy Butler made the right right move. You know what Pat Riley says. There's winning and then there's misery. So it's okay if everybody doesn't like you. It could be worse. You could be losing.

So Joelle Embed left Sunday's game with a left ankle injury, and he will continue to sit out for the Sixers game today against the Suns. But head coach Brett Brown is hopeful that Embed will be able to return soon and expects him to play again before the playoffs starts. Ben Simmons is likely out for the rest of the season, having had knee surgery. 76ers are currently the sixth seed in the east. They are half a game behind the Pacers in the fifth and fifth. they would face the Celtics in the first round at this point, which...

Have you ever watched the TV show, Joy? And you're like, you go through season one and two, and then you get to the end of season three, and you're like, okay, they've jumped the shark, as they call it. You're like, they're just... Philadelphia, to me, jump the shark. I'm over the series. Like, I'm...

I gave you... You gave me these weird scenarios, and I kind of had to use my imagination that it would work. Yeah, we played along. Yeah, and now I'm at the end of season three of this, and you have UFOs landing at people's... houses and eating them and I'm like, I'm not going to watch the series anymore. Like you're asking me to make big jumps now to buy in.

You're asking me to buy into this thing like two, three years in with them. I'm over it with Philadelphia. I'm going to move on to a nice story in Miami, Oklahoma City, Portland. There's a lot of encouraging stories here. And there's a lot of good stories in the East. Like we thought this was the team. This was the team, right? That was supposed to take over the East and the Braun left.

I don't want to be too reactionary to it, but I think it's because Duell Embed and Ben Simmons are still young players, but it just doesn't feel like it fits. And I think it's the added exhaustion to your point of constantly being pitched that like it's still being processed. You're not down on them, Joy.

You're down on this working. Whatever this concoction is, like you keep serving me up this dish that doesn't taste good. And then you keep telling me it's the best dish you got and like this is a five-star restaurant. but I'm looking around and it's not it and this is not it. I'm not anti-M-Bid Simmons.

I'm anti them together. I'm over this together. Yeah, the whole situation just is, it's not working. So Julian Edelman has played all of his 11 seasons with Tom Brady as his quarterback, but now Edelman is learning to get used to catching passes from someone else. Obviously, it's, you know, it was a little different, but you got to move on and you understand that this is a business, us and you wish him well.

And that's when you instantly start thinking about what you have to do to prepare yourself to go out and contribute and help the team for the upcoming here. So obviously, yeah, we played a lot of ball together. I love them to death, but the train keeps moving as it will when, you know, I'm not playing here or something. I mean, it just always keeps going. So we'll see. We've got to worry about the people that we have here.

Wasn't much of a train before Tom. That train was empty before Tom. It was Amtrak. Nobody was on it. It's not the analogy I would have used. But that's, you know, he's a patriot through and through. So he's going to continue on with the mantra and the Patriot Way and next man up and all those things. And sounds great.

I just, the only reason I'm interested in this team this year is because of Cam Newton. And with all the opt-outs, I have backed off of my expectations for the team as a whole with the Cam Newton move. I still think that Cam is going to be better and has a lot of things. and he's going to play at a high level. Yeah. But is he able to elevate this entire roster? I don't know and I don't think that he should be responsible for that. No.

Remember Tom Brady said last year it was the most miserable season he'd ever had. There were 12 and 4. He was miserable. Oh, now the division's better. The AFC's better. Like, it's lower expectation. Oh, by the way, is that your last story? Yes.

I'll lose count. 30 minutes from now, I'm doing my almost final amendment. I'm giving my NFL predictions, all the standings, top of the next hour. You're almost final. Because you're going to do one after camp. Yeah. So I wait until free agency coaching hires draft. I've waited now opt-outs.

Okay. Okay. I've got, now I have the right to, I mean, our Constitution is amended. I have a right to amend this once. You know, if guys go down. Of course. My Holmes got hurt or something. So at the top of the hour, my NFL predictions, two massive changes.

I got opt-out things to consider. I got no preseason now to consider. I didn't know that when I made a last prediction late May. I'm very excited for this. Joy Taylor with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Line News.

So it was funny. So I've always said college football to me, I think the SEC is going to play. The rest of it's a coin flip. I have no idea. So I was starting to feel like, okay, we're going to have a season. And then yesterday it was like, oh, we're not going to have a season. There was a bunch of reports. This morning, I'm back to, I think.

we could, it may be delayed. So let's get some clarity on this. Great college football writer, friend Fox Sports College football guy, Bruce Feldman, brought to you by Mercedes-Benz the best or nothing. Okay, it's gone back and forth. So yesterday was not a very optimistic day. Then I got home and read an hour and a half of articles, and I'm like, okay, it's more delayed than canceled.

So this morning, Bruce, zero to 10, 10 being really optimistic. where's the meter for you this morning? Somewhere in the middle, I guess. I think I'm kind of like where you are on that front. I mean, I think when you look at this, there's been a lot of political pressure put on the Big Ten presidents right now. You know, when you looked at Saturday morning, first of all, when the Mac decided to postpone its season and shut it down for the fall,

you started hearing a lot if you were talking to 80s and coaches in the Big Ten, that there was a lot of momentum for them to, hey, in the next week, they may be going in the same direction. And you start thinking about that going, wait a minute, what changed? You just announced your schedule like two or three days earlier. And one of the things that somebody had said to me was, man, I had not heard my AD as pessimistic about this as he was this morning. And I think they had gotten some information from them, from their medical experts that I think had really given them a lot of concern. And I think that's where it kind of kicked into high gear from that. And then I think on the PACT 12 front, a lot of people have looked at and so,

well, the Pact 12 is not going to want to be first, but they are going to, if the Big Ten makes a decision, they're going to follow suit immediately. So now seeing it this little little title wave of things that people think are going to happen. My sources are last night, the Pact 12 ADs and coaches met with Larry Scott, the commissioner, and their medical experts, and their medical experts briefed them of all the issues that they are wrestling with. There are concerns. as the Big Ten has, of hard issues potentially linked to COVID and some of the findings that they've had within, at least within the Big Ten of some of their players. The other thing on the Pact 12 front is they have discussed how they must ramp up their testing. Some teams may have to test daily

if they're in hotspot areas, if they're going to make a go with this. So I think it's hard to predict what college presidents are going to decide today, first in the Big Ten, and then in the pack 12 a little later. But it's a really chaotic time right now in the sport. Listen, college football has never been fair or even. There's the rich programs. There's about 12 to 15. And then there's the not so rich.

A lot of these teams that are in conferences that are not going to play. Old Dominion, Yukon, UCon, Mountain West, they don't have a lot of money. Testing's really expensive. The NBA bubble cost $150 million. Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan, Bama, Oklahoma, Texas. They got the money. They can do daily tax. testing. Nick Saban said yesterday, I can test my guys every day. You know, the more data I look at,

and I've never tried to be an epidemiologist, Joey and I say social distance wear a mask. But it does look like the testing is at the big programs, Bruce, is exceptional and virtually daily, and that's not happening on the college campuses like the big 10 where 13 campuses are allowing students back. Can we at least make the argument today? that if you're on a college campus, you are statistically safer to be an athlete than a non-athlete according to data I'm getting in the last 48 hours.

Yeah, and I think, Colin, that's something, you know, you talk to the most optimistic people within the SEC, and I'm talking about, like, some of the trainers and the medical folks on that end, where they talk and they share information among their peers at other schools. And one of the things that has come up from that side is, hey, we feel like we have a better handle on this

than we did a month ago. Our kids are taking it seriously. I think when you heard a lot of the Big Ten coaches, Jim Harbaugh, James Franklin, Ryan Day speak out. You also saw some from other leagues speak out. Scott Satterfield from Louisville made a very impassioned, compelling case where what he was talking about is, hey, our kids have, we've asked them to do all these other things. And it's not just about, hey, don't go to bars, don't go to pool parties, don't hang out. It was also the drill down part of, hey, don't even go to your buddy's apartment if you're just going to get together and play Madden

some kind of things where it's like all these things we've asked them to do and they have done it. And now we're in the position of are we going to now tell them, hey, still wasn't good enough. But the thing that worries them the most is when the regular students come back, will there be a surge? And how will that be affected of, you know, the guys who are around it? Not what they do in the facility, not necessarily what they're around football. It's when they're around the rest of the campus. So how do you manage that? I mean, like you said, it's not the NBA with a bubble. It's not the NHL with a bubble. Does that mean, you know, privately they're going to advise all their players. Don't go on campus. Take all your classes online. Do whatever you have to do to avoid other people. That is, you know, probably the safest thing they can do on that front because there's, there is no real bubble for them. And then I think one other element to this has come up. And it came up in the PAC 12 dialogue last night is there's a difference between.

training with your team, social distancing, and some of those measures, then there is 100 guys getting back together doing football stuff, 9-107 drill, guys breathing on each other, where they worry if there's a couple of cases that have come in from the outside, is that how it would spread through a football program? So that's one of the things where people say, oh, well, you know what, what's the difference between them playing football and not? That's where the part of, if they're training and they're still going through the process, but they're not getting ready for an actual game situation, that's one of the reasons why some people in the medical community have kind of warned some of the coaches and athletic directors about what could happen.

I want to talk about spring football. I would watch it. I've said before, here's what doesn't bother me. It doesn't bother me if 120 kids opt out for the NFL. So what? That's 1% of the players. That's going to be Bama Clemson, Ohio State. They have great backups.

I'm also not concerned as a parent of a 19, 20-year-old, that they could play an abbreviated spring schedule, January, February, early March, drop spring football, and then play in the fall in September. That'd be six months off. These are young bodies. Just get rid of spring football. If the NFL can get rid of preseason, college football can get rid of spring football if they play in the spring.

But what does bother me in spring football is that's flu season with COVID, potentially no vaccine, and it could be an explosion of cases in America. So I have my doubts, if we have problems now in the summer, what would it be like in February? Your thoughts, Bruce, on spring football, which some of these schools may not like it, but financially they may have to do it if given a choice. Right. If it's a last resort and meaning for the academic calendar year of 2021, and this is the only way to get the TV revenue, they're not punting on that.

I did a story a couple of weeks ago on the athletic of Lincoln Riley early in the pandemic was on the Big 12 coaches call and had done a lot of reasons. research and explain to the rest of his colleagues why Spring could be very viable for them. And, you know, talking to other coaches in the league who had told me about that call, they said Lincoln Riley made a very compelling case. And so, yes, will you have a bunch of players, you know, high profile guys who are going to say, hey, I'm jumping at the NFL. I can't do this. Or will there be agents in people's ears? We're already seeing some guys, by the way, opt out anyway. So I think there's that. But it's not like you're going to say, hey, the college president

and the decision makers are going to shut down and pass up hundreds of millions of dollars in TV revenue if they think this is our only way to make it happen because they're worried about Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence and a handful of other guys, you know, saying, hey, we got to go to the NFL. I mean, the issue of juggling what could be, I don't think you would see 15 game schedule in the spring if it came to that. You might see six to eight and then a potential postseason. And then I think they may have to manage it on the back end. But look, there weren't people like outraged about AAF or XFL players playing a full year round if they got on with the NFL. Right.

I mean, so I think it's, you talk to enough people around college football. They are talking about how much contact their players get and they can manage it better. And again, if there's something that is a real concern with the players on that front, then they certainly could opt out on that. But I just don't see them if it's viable, college athletic decision makers saying, yeah, we're not going to do it. Bruce Feldman, Fox Sports College Football Writer for the Athletic cover in this sport for 25 years. Good seeing you, buddy. Always a pleasure, Colin. Thank you for having me.

You bet. I saw this yesterday. Trevor Lawrence, great quarterback Clemson, great player, Justin Fields, great quarterback Ohio State. They'll probably be the first two guys picked. And people are like, oh, what if they don't play? Scouts will go like two years without seeing them. Good hell, stop. If you think Justin Fields is not going to get drafted because he didn't play.

By the way, if he didn't play, nobody else did. he's still a quarterback. And you've got like seven years of him playing high school and college football. Folks, there's like five teams that need a quarterback. The idea that, oh, Trevor Lawrence hasn't played in 18 months, nobody else has. And he's the best player in the sport.

They'll be fine. I also don't think asking kids to play in March and in September is draconian. Does anybody have kids? Did anybody, let me ask you. When you were like 22, you could, drink like six days in a row. And you get up your seventh day and you're like, boy, I want a beer. It's also would be a shorter season.

Yeah, it's six months a break between playing and not playing and playing again. They're 21 years old. You can party longer. You can, you can, you can little college kids literally don't sleep for three days when they take tests. Who's to say that the NFL isn't going to take that into consideration and maybe not start them right away? Bingo. That's a good point. Very good. The many reasons you're on the show are points like that. Coming up next, something drives me nuts. Listen, the NBA does a lot right. But I'm going to give you an example of something the NFL does right

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give me the postseason in baseball, World Cups. I'm pretty good, right? March madness, I like that. I don't sit around watching stuff all day. But the NBA does a lot right. It's stylish, it's fun. Their marketing campaigns are great. They make young people stars.

They have an alliance with shoe companies. So, I mean, they sell well. They're global. Not a lot of bad guys in the league. I mean, there really is it. Most of these guys are good dudes, not that hard to coach. A couple think the earth is flat. Not a big fan of that.

But whatevs? Mostly a good league. They do one thing, though, that's lousy. A lot of retread coaches. How about some new blood? We got 379 Division I college basketball programs. There's not a guy that can't coach in the NBA, not one? Not one?

I saw this story this morning. They're going to fire Alvin Gentry. Why? Is he to blame? Alvin Gentry's the problem. But I wouldn't fire Alvin Gentry. It's a bunch of young kids, let him grow together. But I'm not the GM.

It says here the leading candidates, Jason Kidd. He's been fired twice. He's never won 50 games. He couldn't win with Yonith. It's like Tom Tibido. Fired twice. Nicks hire him. Why?

Come on. The NFL does this way better than the NBA. They're constantly bringing in. And by the way, there's a lot to lose in the NFL. The franchises are often worth double NBA franchises. Matt Nagy, Matt Rule, he was coaching at Temple a few years ago. Matt LaFleurre, a lot of mats. Doug Peterson, Cliff Kingsbury, Sean McDermott, Kevin Stefansky.

Some of these guys have been home runs. Doug Peterson out-coach coached Belichick in the Super Bowl. Sean McDermott at Buffalo is great. I mean, the NFL is like eight, nine guys. It's like first Kevin Stifansky. He's only ever worked with one team of Vikings. And this is a big job with Baker Mayfield. You've got to get it done, a lot of stars.

They give it to a new guy. Not as many retrets. Now, I'm not saying the NFL doesn't occasionally have a guy getting his third job. John Grude and Pete Carroll. They've both won Super Bowls. Pete Carroll got fired in New England. He did have a winning record there. And he won a Super Bowl in Seattle.

And, you know, Pete was a rock star in college. Like, I get Pete getting the Seahawk job. He'd won in New England. USC was Alabama 10 years ago. I get him getting the job. And he had success. John Gruden won a Super Bowl, took 10 years off, rock star,

former Raider, poorest NFL franchise, good for the brand. I got no problem with John Gruden. He's been better than I thought, frankly. But the NBA, that's like everybody. I like the fact that in the NFL we're kind of cynical if a coach gets fired and rehired, even if he's good.

Mike McCarthy won the Super Bowl, won the division six times. He and Aaron Rogers battle. Aaron's difficult. Like Aaron can be a little rough, right? They fire him. McCarthy gets a job in Dallas and our first reaction is, that's the best you can do? I mean, really, Mike McCarthy.

That's it. That's what it should be like. I'm not saying people don't get fired. Howard Stern's been fired. You know, Mark Cuey. Cuban's been fired. Like, smart people get fired all the time. Smart people, I'm not saying you can't, but we should be like, well,

why didn't you, why couldn't you get along with Eric Rogers? Why didn't you win a nerd Super Bowl? I like the cynicism. In the NBA, it's like, yeah, you know the league. Let's go. The two times the NBA has brought in guys, and we've all gone, Brad Stevens from Butler. Like, not even like Duke from Butler.

And we're all like, oh, time out. That is a massive leap. He's been great. And then Nick Nurse from everywhere, he coached in the G League. And we're like, oh, that's a big leap. Oh, no, he's, my people say Nick Nurse is the best in-game coach in the league, the best in-game coach. So the two times, and by the way, I would give my coach of the year to Billy Donovan

in Oklahoma City, former college coach. Billy Donovan for years had this reputation. How come he doesn't win more? well we've come to learn that Durant, Hardin and Westbrook, they're not the easiest guys in the world sometimes to coach, right? So the college guys are flourishing. Nick Nurse, Billy Donovan, Brad Stevens,

they're all doing great this year. Bring in some new blood. The NFL, this is what they do. They'll go college. They're like, you know, the NFL's had a very good about five-year window on this. They take big swings on coaches. They're taking college.

college offenses in college football. They're bringing them to the NFL. NBA is generally very progressive, very willing to take risks, very willing to try new stuff. The former commissioner, David Stern, once introduced a new ball and didn't tell the players. Literally didn't even call LeBron. He got to the game and you're like, that'd be like going to football and it's like Tom Brady is like, the ball square. I can't throw it.

Well, we were going to give you a heads up, but you know why. The NBA introduced a new ball, didn't tell the players. They take big swings. They miss. They succeed. Can we get some fresh juice in coaching? This is not anti-Jason kid. But I...

I mean, the NFL does a good job of promoting assistance, too. Cliff Kingsbury may not work. It's worth a try. I mean, look at Joe Judge. Literally, on the Patriot staff. So you can actually promote from within the league, too, but they're assistants. If you're scared about going from college to the NBA,

that's too big of a leap for you. I would give Ty Lou a job. He won a title. I'm not saying that Tailu can't get a job, but if you've been fired twice, couldn't win 50 games, I felt like sometimes you were getting out-coached, like Tibbs.

There is a coaching carousel in the NBA for sure. If you think of, I'll tell you another guy that got a job. Think about these people in the NBA that got jobs. We were like, whoa, Nick Nurse, G-League, Brad Stevens. You want to know another guy?

Eric Spolstra. Yeah. None of you. He worked in a film room, the tape room in Portland. And Pat Riley is like, Nobody knew who Eric Spolter. It was considered a huge gamble.

When LeBron got there, they were like, oh, this is, he cannot, no. By the way, Cleveland went and got a guy from Europe. I love that. Now, Blatt didn't work, but it was like they were like number one in the east when he got whacked. Like, try new stuff NBA. That's your history. You've always been willing to adjust and try new stuff. I'm done with retreads.

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