The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD – HOUR 1 – Dodgers In Disarray, Mike McCarthy Underrated, Josh Allen Super Bowl Bound?

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

Colin Cowherd discusses the Dodgers losing their 5th game in a row amidst criticisms they're “ruining baseball”. Colin explains what makes the Dodgers different from every other team in Major League Baseball, and it’s not how much they spent on their roster. He believes Steelers head coach Mike McCarthy in underrated and proves it by stacking his resume up against other elite coaches. Former Dodger Eric Karros stops by The Herd to talk about the Dodgers 5 game losing streak and if they are really ruining baseball.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, it's Wednesday. How much fun is Wrigleyville, especially if you're a Cub fan? We are live. It's the herd, wherever you may be and however you may be. listening. Thanks for making us on a Wednesday, party your day. John Middlkoff, as always, filling in this weekend next for Jay Mack, who's on vacation, well earned. Well, I went to the Cubs game last night, 5-1, Cubs won, Dodgers lost again. You know, three days ago, the Dodgers were ruining the sport. Three days later, apparently not. Five straight losses, lost seven of nine. By the way,

the Braves have won six straight. The Red Sox have won six straight, 29 and five in their last 34. The Dodgers are melting down. Their best players are hurt or can't hit. Is the media ever right with their fatalistic claims? I know I'm a broken record, but God, I push back on this stuff. The sky is falling. Doomsday. Folks, the media by and large attracts young people who push back on power and wealth and the Dodgers are rich and powerful. But the young media, you know, is wrong. Stop staring at the paint job. Look under the hood. The Dodgers are a mess. Otani's got two home runs since the All-Star break. Health, age, brittle, expensive. Mookie Betts, one for 16 during the losing streak, and I mean anemic, feeble at bats.

So this, this Tarek Scouble acquisition was much more life raft than adding, you know, a helipad to the yacht. This team is, I'm looking at the number since July 31st for our radio audience, tied for the worst record, most home runs allowed, the home run differentials the worst, second most runs allowed, the team ERA is shot, it's almost seven, second worst in baseball. Again, the Red Sox's on fire. The Braves on fire.

The Cubs playing well. The Dodgers have bullpen issues. age issues. Now, now, now, I will say all you fatalists, let's say the Dodgers had just, you know, won 114 games and flown through the baseball playoffs, like the 98 Yankees did, who lost one game in the entire 98 playoffs, one game. The Yankees in the late 90s were so good, they swept back-to-back World Series. The Dodgers are winning on the margins. Game seven, they went to rotational players and backups,

starters out of the bullpen. From 98 to 2000, the New York Yankees won three straight World Series. They were 12 and 1 in those World Series. The sport wasn't competitive. And I don't remember this outrage. You're all staring at the paint. job. Open up the hood. This is an old team. They're on the hook for Mookie Betts's contract for six years.

He looks shot. O' Tani now? This is what happens when you pitch and you play. I mean, I'm watching the Cubs last night. The Cubs have added five arms at the trade deadline. Their batting order, their position players are excellent. The last two nights, they're the better team. The Braves are the better team. The Red Sox are the better team. I mean, I grew up in the 70s where the sport was lobsided. The Cincinnati Reds batting order. These are the guys that hit an order. Pete Rose, Ken Griffey Sr., Joe Morgan, Johnny Bench, George Foster, Tony Perez. They had average pitching and dominated the sport. The Yankees go 12 and 1 in three straight World Series. Dominate the sport. This team's winning on margins the last two years. And now they're broken. They are broken.

So, I mean, last year in the World Series, the Blue Jays hit 270. The Dodgers hit 200. The Blue Jays had 22 more hits. I mean, I don't believe in luck, but if there's ever been luck in a seventh game of a World Series, everything worked the Dodgers way. Some of it Dave Rogers, some of it levers, Dave Roberts, and some of it just out and out luck. It's crazy World Series game seven. So the Brewers and the Braves could have acquired Scoobel. Blame them for not land in the plane. Don't blame the Dodgers for being desperate, badly. needing him, knowing they're getting old expensive and brittle, and this is probably the last potentially great team in September. Here's Dave Roberts on the debut and another loss.

We've got to find a way to win a ballgame. You know, I thought tonight, Terrick was fine. A lot of emotion, adrenaline, and it was, you know, he limited the damage. You know, there's probably probably a little bit more in there for sure. But I'm not going to push him every time out. We have a lot of baseball left to play. He's a guy that we're all counting on. So I think that I'm going to manage, you know, and pick my spots with him. And, you know, you still got to score.

All right. So the Pittsburgh Steelers in Mike McCarthy era begins in earnest, right? And there was a quote yesterday by one of the running backs. He goes, this is not like Mike Tomlin. This is the easiest first day of. camp ever. And I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I really don't. Mike McCarthy, the Steelers coach, has the distinction, and I believe this to be true, of being the greatest football coach ever with a mediocre reputation. He's like the Nicholas

Cage of football coaches. Everybody's like, oh, Nicholas Cage. Nobody ever mentions him as a great actor. And like everything he's in is good. I mean, Conair was great. Adaptation was great. Leaving Las Vegas is unbelievable. Raising Arizona is one of the funniest films I've ever seen in my life. The Rock, Face Off. Seems like a pretty good actor. He's good in everything he's in. I mean, Marlon Brando had six bombs.

Everybody's in bad movies. So Mike McCarthy between Dallas and Green Bay has eight division titles. When Dak was healthy, number one offense in the league. Here's what's funny. If you look at John Harbaugh's resume stacked up with Mike McCarthy. Now, for the radio audience, you won't see all of this. But remember, John Harbaugh. got fired in Baltimore was the hottest candidate on the market.

Their resumes are identical. The only difference is, oh, wait, there is none. Mike McCarthy gets hired and the Steelers settle. Harbaugh gets hired with the Giants' home run. Mike Tomlin. Put up Mike Tomlin's resume against Mike McCarthy. Tomlin's viewed as a legend. McCarthy,

that's all the Steelers did. Look at their resumes. The only difference, McCarthy's got more playoff wins. So why in the world is Tomlin's reputation this? I mean, he had Big Ben. And John Harbaugh's reputation this, he had Lamar Jackson and Joe Flack on his prime.

And I think it's this. McCarthy took all the heat and Aaron Rogers took none of it at the time in Green Bay. So the narrative got set in his coaching prime that he was the problem in Green Bay. Remember, Aaron wasn't political. Aaron wasn't as passive aggressive. Aaron wasn't as weird in the early years in Green Bay.

Right? He was that really cocky kid under Brett Farrb. He was beautiful. He was fun to watch. He moved. Something happened late in Green Bay. And he just, you know, off-season commitment. Iowasquez.

Even Matt LaFleur is like, let's move on. Let's go with Jordan Love. But what happens when the narrative gets set in your career? You're not a good actor after a couple of early bombs. and I think that's the difference is that Mike McCarthy took all the arrows in those early days in Green Bay.

We all know now there's a lot to unpack with Aaron Rogers. Forget what he said a couple days ago. Just there's a lot with Aaron. The off-seasons, it's amazing. These people who find such things

like People Magazine know who everybody in the world's married to except Aaron Rogers. I mean, there's a lot of enigma and mystery. And so the truth was Green Bay was a 50-50 split. Like Brady and Belichick both get credit in New England. McCarthy and Aaron both get criticism and blame in Green Bay. But Mike took all of it. And I don't think he's ever been able to rid himself of that negativity.

Now, Matt Hasselbeck was on earlier this week. He said, listen, I don't care what happened. earlier with McCarthy and Rogers, people in sports get over it. Quarterbacks and coaches get over it. I believe it's going to be great. I mean, I know what it's like to, you know, feel like nails on a chalkboard with a guy and then all of a sudden he leaves and then it's like, oh, man, I missed that guy. I didn't realize how good I had it.

And so I think for both guys, for Aaron Rogers, man, he probably has missed Mike McCarthy. I think for Mike McCarthy for sure. He's missed that intangible factor that Aaron Rogers brings to the table. And so I think like kind of like you're saying, like that old relationship that gets back, hey man, the grass wasn't greener necessarily. I have respect for you. And then when you have that deep background of experiences together and a deep respect for one another, I think it works.

Remember the 13 years he was in Green Bay, McCarthy always had the offense right. That was never the issue. He only had two top 10 defenses. And in one of them, he won the Super Bowl. So I can't, we're going to talk once again to Mike DeFabo. He's at Steelers Camp. He's going to join us later. in the show. So can't wait for that today.

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who didn't even have to take that many snaps because they were paying Russell Wilson nothing and he was productive. I think the Rams roster is insane. The defensive line now if Aaron Donald comes back, I never seen anything like it. And then I think the Buffalo Bills, which brings up the inevitable question,

which is, when's Josh Allen going to get there? Never forget. 14 years of John Elway's career, 14 year period, he didn't have a trophy. A lot of things need to happen. Right? Drew Brees, won. Farr of one.

Rogers won. Dan Marino and Jim Kelly, none. Brady, Mahomes, Bradshaw. Those are historical outliers. Bradshaw had the best defense for 25 years. Montana had the best coach and best wide receiver, arguably ever. Brady's first three Super Bowls, he won by a field. goal. I mean, the margins were narrow for New England for years, and they were winning narrowly.

So it's like he's in year nine. He's really good. A lot of it is almost like Phil Mickelson. When do you enter in your prime? Phil Mickelson's prime was Tiger Woods prime. Well, Josh Allen and Mahomes entered the league one year apart. Mahomes got the better owner, arguably, GM, coach, and weapon, Travis Kelsey. In an offensive league, the weapon matters. offensive coach, Andy Reed. So, like, a lot of advantages just didn't go Josh Allen's way. You know, and it's almost like movies. Shawshank Redemption comes out in the same year as Forrest Gump and Pulp Fiction gets overlooked.

You know, 2017, the shape of water wins. A story about a woman who falls in love with a fish. What are we doing? You know, weaker year. I mean, so who knows? But I tend to think the Rams are going to win the NFL. NFC, the better conference, and I like Buffalo in the AFC. I think the DJ Moore, offensive coach now.

I think it all works. But Josh Allen, this is the inevitable question. Role, when are you going to get one? His response. The playoffs, a lot of times in the last, you know, however many years I've been here now, and, you know, just continuing to find ways to learn from it. And I think that's a hard pill to swallow sometimes because we haven't gotten it done. But, you know, you knock.

you knock enough at the door, it's going to open at some point. And that's just what we have to keep doing is keep knocking on that door and giving ourselves chances to be in that situation again. The thing that worries me the most, when you go look at the old Joe Montana playoff clips, those are a lot of home games. When you look at a lot of Tom Brady playoff moments, that snow game, it's in Foxborough.

What worries me is that ESPN last week ranked the teams in terms of talent, 25 and younger. Number one was New England in Buffalo's division. They already won two more games than Buffalo last year with a bunch of kids. So are you going to be playing road playoff games? Ask Tom Brady about playing road playoff games at Denver. It never worked out well. So a lot of this, a lot of those Niner highlights with Joe Montana,

those playoff highlights, they were at home. A lot of Brady's at home. So that's what we're used. me. Not that the windows closed, that New England now has the better coach, a elite quarterback, a great owner, lots of historic momentum and success, that and a lot more good young players. Buffalo right now is ranked 29th in terms of talent, 25 and under. And you can blame the GM, but some of it becomes you're not paying Drake May and you're paying Josh Allen a lot. and you've got to move off really good players.

John Middlkoff with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, let's start in Las Vegas, where Fernando Mendoza, he's been a little up and down. Reports came out on Sunday. He had a really, really rough practice, but he bounced back on Monday. His new coach, Clint Kubiak, had some thoughts on his rookie quarterback.

There's 60 to 80 plays in the game. and there's going to be ups and downs and what quarterback can get the rest of the other 10 players playing at their best. So that's what we're looking for. And there will never be a perfect game or a perfect practice. But, you know, I think he's doing a good job. I don't expect him to be perfect right now.

I can't wait to watch it. Do you know how many career snaps during his college career he had under center, Fernando Mendoza? Three, five. when you think the Shanahan family and the Kubiaks might as well be the cousins of that family, it is a lot of under center. Yeah. And, you know, knowing people in Vegas, I think the bumps in the road and the offseason was,

that's a big transition for any court. Remember Jared Goff when hard knocks, Jeff Fisher's, you know, before Sean McVeigh got there? And it looked like Jared Goff didn't even know how to play football. I mean, the last 10 years, Jared Goff, just 35 touchdowns a year. You know, it's, there's a process. Yeah. And I think the Raiders deserve a lot of credit because a lot of pressure for throw young guys out there. Remember, they kind of manipulated that contract with Cousins and they got them, you know, to come there. Brady convinced them. And even if Cousins isn't that good anymore, it does give them a little buffer early in the season to not force Mendoza out there.

It's the first time I remember being genuinely, even despite the division and how good it is, I'm genuinely interested. engaged, and optimistic about the Raiders. I think they've got the coach, the quarterback. The last couple of years, they've attacked the offensive line. They've got some skill players. I think Gentile will pop a little bit this year. Brock Bowers. I think their receivers are good enough.

They got that kid from Minnesota, that number three receiver who, like nobody, unless you are. Yeah, I mean, he can really run. I think their offense is pretty special. Defense wasn't terrible. It just got beat up last year, a lot of injuries. So I think, you know, there's two teams in this league. Minnesota and the Raiders that a lot of people predict their fourth place.

If those are fourth place teams, the league's in a really good spot because they're both incredibly, I think the Raiders are going to be incredibly watchable. And their schedule, almost like the league said, okay, we'll give you Miami at home to start. We'll give you a little positive vibes. But I look at that schedule, it's a little rough early, but you get into the middle of it. There's a lot of Cleveland's. You know, there's a lot of Tennessee's and Arizona's and jets. I think the Raiders could make some noise.

Well, it's an extremely quarterback-friendly offense, too. Speaking of quarterbacks, you know, Lamar Jackson, your guy, bumped down a tier in Sando's list, going from where he'd been a tier one guy for a long time to tier two. One coach, who was quoted in that story, said, he can't be special without the threat of the run. He needs to be more active when he does run. It used to be he would go and outrun you.

Now he kind of goes, but he's not always, moving with the purpose. My thought, Colin, is, he's just not quite as fast as anymore. That's part of aging. I mean, he used to, I think probably since Michael Vick, the most electric quarterback we've seen the internet era. He could, he used to be able to humiliate you. Now he can beat you. But there's a difference. I mean, you prepare differently for being humiliated and being beaten. Tiger Woods in his prime humiliated other golfers. You know, 10 stroke leads at a major. And then, you know, that doesn't last forever. I think Lamar, he's not, he doesn't run like he used to.

I still think he's dynamic by quarterback standards. But there was about a seven year, six year window where, I mean, it was, if he was playing, you had to watch. And I found myself last year, it was like he was a quarterback. He was just kind of a guy. Well, my favorite player as a kid was Steve Young. And the Steve Young, I remember in the 90s, was a pocket quarterback. But you watch the highlights from the 80s when he was basically some version of Lamar.

he's always said that to create longevity in the position, you have to learn to dominate from the pocket as a running quarterback. And that to me is kind of the next step for Lamar. You can't just depend on the run. I'll give Lamar a lot of credit. You know, Jalen Hertz, yeah, I don't want to do that. You know, Russell Wilson always push back. Lamar's been pretty amenable over the course of his career.

He's had multiple offensive, he's won multiple MVPs with two different offensive coordinators. so I would expect him to play pretty good football this year. Brock Purdy. He continues to face some skepticism from people in league circles. Despite leading the 49ers, significant success early in his career. One long time NFL GM said, quote, he's never been a franchise quarterback for me.

On pure ability, he's closer to a backup than a top 10 guy. Colin, was this you? No, I think he's a starting quarterback. I think the one thing Purdy does, and I've talked to people, quarterback coaches on this. I've talked to coaches on Purdy that are college pro, people that faced him in college. And the one thing they all unanimously say is Sam Darnold has said this. He sees things so quickly, is that above the, he's got smart parents or something because above the shoulder, Sam Darnold said he'd never seen a player probably.

process and offense so quickly. So now, Purdy, he's got to have his hips. You know, he throws with his lower body. He's not a big physical stature guy. So he needs to have healthy trunk, healthy legs. He's got to step and throw. He can't just wing it. He doesn't have that kind of ability.

He's not Sam Darnel. But if you give him set throw, he will read where, he throws it to the right place almost every time. Now, he's got a little gunslinger. He'll let it rip. I'm okay with that. I don't mind the picks. But I do think there are some physical limitations. He throws with his legs.

Some guys can get away with just having, they're so good with their arm and their shoulders. That's not who he is. But he's not a backup. He's a starter in this league. It does help that Shanahan is the great quarterback whisper of our generation. But isn't that part of his package? Like, Purdy's not a solo act.

This isn't Roger Federer. He has Kyle Shanahan. they're a partnership and this is not a situation where it's like well if the coordinator leaves like Kyle's not going anywhere so I'm higher on Purdy than a lot of people I think last year I mean

the second of the last game of the season remember the Monday night game against Caleb Williams he outduled them I mean Purdy's proven to be he's never going to be Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes in his prime but he he's going to have a long career like the Dax and the golfs as long as Kyle Shanahan's right there by his side

totally agree John Middlkoff with the news well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news so Mike Sando yesterday at the athletic I always spend two days on it it's one of my favorite things

it's called the quarterback tears he has four tears and I always attack it the first day and then it kind of filters out today's day two on it Albert Breer in 10 minutes by the way and it's interesting because the one quarterback who we hold in high regard that was really low on the list was

Jalen Hertz was the last quarterback in tier two. And I was thinking about this this morning. Here's all I know about Jalen Hertz. You can win a Super Bowl with him. I mean, honestly, all you guys out there, young women are looking for guys that can hold a steady job and have some personal integrity.

After that, everything's negotiable. life is mostly about one or two things matter the most. And, you know, guys have personal integrity, try to keep a pretty good job. You'll be good. You'll be. Rest of it, it can negotiate. And I think, here's the thing. I think there are a lot of quarterbacks in this league.

Bo Nicks, who I like. Brock Purdy, Gough, Jared Love, C.J. Stroud. The question is, can you win a Super Bowl with him? And I don't know. I think with Goff, you can. I think with Jordan Love, you can. But I don't know. I know with Jalen Hertz.

There's guys in the league. I'll give you, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow. Nobody asks that question. Josh Allen. Everybody says, well, Justin Herbert, 6-6, 240, huge arm, 4-2 biology major. Nobody doubts that Justin Herbert, good God, he was, they made the play. playoffs last year with the 32nd ranked offensive line. So Burrow, Allen, Herbert, Lamar Jackson, to me and his prime, you can win a Super Bowl with that. But I think there's a lot of people out

there. There's a lot of, there's a lot of Bo Nix and Brock Purdy and, you know, Jordan love guys and nobody's sure. Jalen Hurts, you can win a Super Bowl. I've seen. So I, you know, Philadelphia, I always say every quarterback has different straits. Philadelphia is the loudest NFL market in terms of media, coach, fans, the GMs famous. Philadelphia is loud. It's loud. Bill Parcells famously told Andy Reid when he got the job. That's the hardest place in the league to coach.

New York's second and it's not close. So I think part of Jalen Hertz appeal and it's a little bit Dak Prescott's appeal, good at the podium, puts out fires. incredibly high EQ, never starts the fire, always puts it out, in the loudest city, brings the volume down. If you put Baker, Mayfield, and Philadelphia, good hell. That would be Jay Cutler and his prime in Philadelphia. No thank you. Here's Jaylon, leading the way for this Eagles team.

A hundred percent alignment and zero entitlement. I'd say one of my main points coming in, especially talking to my teammates and getting a sense of where we are throughout the summer and where we're going is just the importance of discipline and unity. And I can't emphasize enough how important it is to carry and protect the intimacy of this team and what we do because it takes all of us. Mike Tomlin's the best coach at the podium of all time. I think Jalen Hertz is the best quarterback at the podium of all time. I mean, literally, that's like one of those life coaches. You just take his podium hits. Write it down.

You're like, oh, it's like Zig Zigler, the old sales guy. It's like Tony Robbins, say that? No, he's a quarterback for the Eagles. I mean, he puts out fires like nobody else. All right, Albert Breers around the corner. It looks like Aaron Donald's coming back. You guys are all worried about the L.A. Dodgers. I'd worry about the L.A. Rams.

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they brought in Trent McDuffie, two-time All-Pro at Corner to solve their number one issue. D-line's not an issue. It's a restraint. Last year, PFF ranked the Rams, number one overall team, number one offense, number one passing, number one receiving, number one run blocking, number one defense, number two rush defense, number one coverage, number three, pass rush. If you look, just think of how good, let's put their top 10 players in order. I won't count Aaron Donald, who would not come back if he couldn't play. So if I was going to tell you in order the top 10 players, Miles Garrett's one, best pass rusher, off the edge since Lawrence Taylor, Matthew Stafford last year's MVP is two,

Pooka Nakua, top three receiver number three, Trent McDuffie, two-time All-Pro Corner. Devante Adams led the league in touchdown receptions is five. Great red zone target. Kevin Dotson, six. Well, he was the number one rated guard in the league one or two last year. Byron Young would be seven. Pro Bowl, 28 sacks last three years. Puna Ford eight.

He was the number one rated defensive tackle. Kiron Williams, three straight years of a thousand yards rushing, plus I think 10 touchdowns. And then Kobe Turner, who again has been, PFF had him as the six best interior defensive lineman outplayed Chris Jones last year of the Chiefs. I'm not mentioning Aaron Donald. By the way, they're very good at safety, excellent at tight end. I do not remember a football roster this good.

You're getting down. And my take is Aaron Donald if he plays, let's say he plays 14 games. They bring him back late September, plays his way. way into shape. Is it the best compilation of defensive talent up front ever? And those giant teams that beat the Patriots that had Strayan, Tug, OCU, Mniora, that was good. It wasn't this. Here's Albert Breer on Aaron Donald possibly coming back and playing for the Rams. He's coming back. And I think he will play the full season. They've discussed this. Sean McVeigh and Aaron Donald are very, very close. they already have the framework of a plan laid out for what this is going to look like.

The other thing that really helps is the depth they have at that position. They don't need to play him 60 plays a game. They can use him creatively and they like the Kobe Turner's, the Braden Fisks, the Punta Fores, the Tyler Davis's. This is a situation where they can really use him in a way that's going to, I think, put him in position to be at his best when it matters most. Yeah, 24 snaps Aaron Donald instead of like 48 to 58 and being triple teamed. So everybody's worried about the Dodgers.

No, the stacked roster is the Rams. I mean, again, since the hard cap has been enacted, I'm not sure we've seen a team like this. We've had Super Bowl teams like the Kansas City Chiefs that were mediocre in their wide receiver room, running back room, like had spots. The Rams won a Super Bowl. last time Rams won a Super Bowl, linebacker and safety, not great. This team has no flaws. I mean, the only thing you worry about is Matt Stafford's age. He tends to be the last old quarterback who's willing to sit in the pocket and get smoked.

Most old Eli Manning, Brady, Aaron Rogers, they find the dirt. Like, they get out of it. He'll just sit in there to the last second and get drilled. That's what I worry about. The other thing on Mike Sandow's quarterback tears yesterday. And I've said this before. I take great pride in being pretty darn accurate on the quarterback position. Not great, not perfect, but pretty good.

The hardest quarterback for me to evaluate, probably since I've been doing this, is Dak Prescott. He almost made the first tier. He was high second tier. He wasn't high second tier a year ago. So what's happening? Dak is aging really, really well. And we were talking about this as a staff. Some guys go to the gym.

They have a six-pack. They're ripped. Right? And you're like, that guy's in great shape. Those guys age poorly. They look old and they look weathered. And they take, they're all beat up. Heavy lifters.

What really ages well, a lot of water and coffee, sleep well, eat light. Like, diet, water, rest. That's never impressive. That's kind of Dak Prescott. Aaron Rogers, little quirky, weird, not aging well. Cam Newton, Big Ben, especially Cam, didn't age particularly well. Jay Cutler didn't age well. Dak's the guy that's just disciplined, compartmentalizes things, smart, thoughtful.

He's aging well. I've said before, most quarterbacks, by the middle of the second chapter, I've got a pretty good read on him. Hit, miss, average. It took me to get to about chapter eight with DAC where I'm like, yeah, he's really good. I mean, good God, folks, you start looking at his career all-time rankings. I mean, second all-time and completion percentage, top six and touchdown to interception ratio, passer rating, teams points per game. like it's all-time stuff and he's not terribly big six two doesn't have a huge arm not hyper athletic and i think he's just one of those people in life he's not the guy that go squats 450 he's just

eats right sleeps right a lot of water a lot of fluids a lot of coffee you look up and he's 72 and you're like god that guy looks like he's 54 years old deck is just aging well he's not a highlight film He didn't have a lot of playoff moments, but he's never had his Bill Walsh. He's never had his Belichick or as Andy Reid or as Sean Payton. And I think Mike McCarthy's good. But he's never had that guy. He's got a meddling owner. You know, divisions had some really good teams in it, the Eagles.

So, I mean, I asked Mike Sando yesterday about like, like, DAC literally as he ages, post-surgery's, is surging up according to league examines. executives, the quarterback tiers. How does Dak Prescott at this stage of his career move up like five spots? I mean, he's still in tier two, but I feel like that surprised me. He got almost as many tier one votes as he's gotten for his whole career. You know, and it's like a dozen or something like that. But I'm just like, what do we know about Dak Prescott that we didn't know already?

Right? I mean, he's a good pro quarterback. So 50 executives were anonymously quoted, and you can really, some of the quotes. Since he came into the league, Dak Prescott, number two total offense, number three scoring offense. Isn't they remarkable? Here were the quotes. The guy I might be higher on than I ever have before is Dak said one exec.

He was so impressive last year. I don't know what the hole in his game is, said a former head coach. Another coach called Prescott, the cockroach of the league for his ability to keep playing at a high level no matter what. He's really good. He's a good leader. Everybody loves him. He's going to make most throws.

Could you win the whole thing with Dak Prescott? Yeah. Three different head coaches, meddling owner, high profile noisy media. I mean, it's not Philadelphia, but Dallas is loud. Talk radio is a thing. Aggressive newspaper. TV is a thing. And it's taken me chapter eight.

But, you know, I just think if you look around in life, some people, it's like, you know, you know what? Nobody ever talks about when retirement is 401K. Everybody in the streets talking about, oh, the entrepreneur, the whiz kid. Nobody ever says, yeah, that guy's got a giant 401K. He's just been dollar cost averaging for the last 42 years, paid his house off. Like, that's Dak. Just ages really well.

Smart people usually do. Very disciplined, very compartmentalized, very good at the podium, doesn't start any fires. again, and I'm not picking on Baker Mayfield. You put Baker in Philadelphia or with Jerry Jones, house fire. Like that's a nightmare. Jay Cutler, same thing. Put Cam Newton in Philadelphia. Cam Newton with the Cowboys at his prime.

It'd be so noisy. You put Dak there. You put Jalen Hurts. Some of these guys are just so good, so confident, inner scoreboard. Bring the temperature down. A lot of quarterbacking is beyond arm strength. It's like, you know, it's just. saying the right stuff.

Jerry Jones is not the easiest quarterback to play under. He's not, nothing against Jerry. He's not, not the easiest quarterback. Owner, I should say. Mike DeFaibo at Steelers Camp will join us. Albert Breer has been at several camps. We'll join us.

Eric Caros will stop by. The Dodgers are a bit of a wreck right now. I was saying, John, as football starts, now, if we go from NBA playoffs, little vacation into the NFL, Baseball is having a bit of a renaissance now. I mean, Yankee Stadium, Fenway Park, Wrigley Field. It was fascinating to watch the Dodgers last night.

So the crowd booed Tarek Scouble. And I turn to my friend, I'm like, they're just booing capitalism. They're not really booing him. He pitched for the tigers. Nobody here knows him. Nobody cares. The Cubs didn't bid on him. But what was interesting is the Dodgers went out and got him high-profile ace.

And a pitcher that doesn't necessarily go eight innings. He's as likely to go five and two, third, or six as he is seven innings. And the Cubs went and got four or five pitchers, one of them from Toronto. But as you're watching last night, position players, momentum, batting order. I'm like, are the Cubs better than the Dodgers now after the trade deadline? They're younger, more players than their prime, excellent at home. Dodgers currently struggling at home. But it was just an electric atmosphere last night.

And it's funny. It's this fear of these dominant teams. We talked about it earlier. The Yankees were sweeping World Series. And you didn't hear the fearmongery. You do with the Dodgers who are winning in the playoffs on the margins. But I watched last night, my take after two games, now that the Cubs have improved, they're starting pitching, I don't know if the Dodgers are better than the Cubs.

Well, isn't the knock on school? I mean, baseball playoffs can be weird for a long period of time. A rod, Barry Bonds, weren't that successful? playoff A-Bs. But the guy hasn't exactly been Pedro Martinez in playoff games, right? So I don't care as much as I once did, but I love the San Francisco Giants. They won three World Series in five years, and they never remotely had the best regular season team. They were never the best team on baseball playoffs. This isn't the NBA, if you have Kevin Durant, you're basically guaranteed to go to the finals. The Dodgers could have lost in the first round a couple times. Yeah. So it's just,

You have one bad outing. All of a sudden, if you're pitching is a little off, your basco cold. I think baseball playoffs can be really, really random. I don't care what your roster looks like. I think people looked at Tarek's goobal and thought, oh, they're just adding a helipad to the yacht. And it's like, no, it's a little bit more of a life preserver than people think. They're struggling to score runs.

Edwin Diaz came over. His velocity is not what it once was. So from the bullpen to the batting order, Mookie Betts is struggling. And they got bad. Bad. And they got six years left on that thing. And he is hit.

His at bats are just, they're really soft at bat. So they, it's interesting. I mean, I think it makes baseball more interesting. But if you look at historically in the 70s or the late, the 90s Yankees, those teams blew the league away. That's not what the Dodgers were last year. It is not what the Dodgers are this year at all. Look under the hood.

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