The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Giving Sam Darnold the proper credit, defending Drake Maye

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

Colin Cowherd responds to criticisms that Sam Darnold “didn’t do anything in the Super Bowl” by putting into context his performance vs other Super Bowl champion QBs. He comes to the defense of Patriots QB Drake Maye following his crushing defeat by the Seahawks defenseSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It is great to have you in. A lot of people think, oh, there's football season in America, then waiting for football season. buy it. Fascinating story happening in the NBA and college basketball. But I want to start about something because yesterday I'm kind of perusing the internet all day.

I took a chill day. It's a big weekend. And I'm seeing a lot of this. Sam Donald didn't do anything in that Super Bowl. And you are right. He did not throw a pick. He did not look nervous. He did not get rattled.

He did not have a fumble and he did not take multiple sacks. You're right, I'm wrong. He didn't do anything. For the record, the last eight Super Bowl winning quarterbacks, only one through for over 300 yards, Mahomes. I thought Kyle Shanahan nailed it on the pregame show when you're as good as Seattle is. You play by different rules.

Yeah, Sam's a stud. And you know, us have them for a year. I think we get a little too much credit for what we did. We didn't do anything for them. We just gave him a platform to where we can take the pressure off him for a year. And I think him watching that, Sam's always let it ripped. But when you let it rip all the time and you're always trying to win the game, a lot of times you keep both teams in the game. And I think that's really what's changed with him. He picks and chooses better.

He's got a really good team. And when you have a really good team, you don't always have to try to win it. That's right. Sam Darnold in the playoffs did not have a turnover for a month. 700 yards, five TDs, no picks and scrambled. That is exceptional quarterback play. Do you know the two Super Bowls where Brady threw for the most yards? He lost one and fell behind 28 to 3 in the other

and needed the greatest, most miraculous catch of his career, Julian Edelman in Atlanta, to win that one. Oh, let me remind you that Drake May set an NFL Super Bowl quarterback record this past Sunday. Drake May threw for more yards than any quarterback in a single, quarter in NFL history. Did you know that? 235 in the fourth. Do you think he played well? Sam Darnold didn't get in the way. And let's be totally honest why you have this opinion. Men are very proud animals. We are very proud. You thought Sam Darnold was a bust. You were proved wrong and you don't want to admit it publicly. That's why everybody always talks about,

You ever gone to the internet? Rigged. Rigged. No, you lost a bet. Your team lost. If the NFL is rigged, they're doing a terrible job. Mahomes, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Matt Stafford, we're not in the Super Bowl. Sam Donald and Drake Mayworth.

The NFL is doing a horrible job of rigging it. So football is the ultimate complementary sport. And when you have a stacked roster, Not having a turnover for a month is exceptional quarterback play, audibling into stuff that works and out of trouble. So you can tell me, Darnold didn't do anything, and I will push back by your right. No fumbles, not multiple sacks, never rattled, no interceptions, didn't do any of those things. Drake made it all of them. So you know I like Donald, and you also know.

I like analytics. But I think this is something that I'm not sure people realize this. For years on this show, I've talked about analytics, not analytics. Football is much closer to UFC than it is a math class. It has a regulated level of violence. And sometimes tough wins. Tougher wins. Intimidation wins.

Analytics don't prove any of it. So Seattle does not go for it on fourth downs. In fact, the three teams that went forward in the NFL, the fewest times on fourth down, the Seahawks won the Super Bowl. If Bow Nix doesn't get hurt, Denver's probably in the Super Bowl and the Texans. And there was a moment in this game, late second quarter, fourth and five for Seattle, and they chose to punt. And analytics said it's a go-either-way decision.

Seahawks led 6-0. They brought on the league's most highly paid punter, and he pinned New England deep. Analytics said it's a go-either way. And as I watched it, my takeaway is, no, it's not. It's a 100% punt. Because New England couldn't move the ball. Why would you give them a field position break?

Their longest drive was 28 yards. You don't get it. struggling offenses the break and the life preserver they need. That's a hundred percent punt. Secondly, it's not like the Seahawks were dominating on big offensive downs. The Patriots defense got tired, but for the first quarter and a half, they were excellent. I mean, JSN was invisible. Nobody could stop him all year. Patriots did. And the third thing, Seattle went a month with no turnovers and a defense creating points. You punt the ball. Winning the guys. Winning the game, not winning arguments on the internet is the key to football. Too many people want to go on the

internet and sound smart. Do you realize the last three Super Bowl champions each kicked four field goals in their respective Super Bowls? Take the points if you are exceptional anywhere. if you have a significantly better defense. The Chiefs from 2022 to 2024 had an exceptional defense. Steve Smagnolla, exceptional defense. They won two Super Bowls. They appeared in three Super Bowls. Do you know where they were on going forward on fourth down?

Second fused in the league. You know who went for it a lot? The Jets and the Titans. The Dodgers aren't winning the World Series because of analytics. They've got more money and a smarter GM and they buy better players. Everybody talks about analytics in the NBA. Oklahoma City is the dominant team in the sport. They're middle of the pack.

Oklahoma City is built on defense and one exceptional score and a great GM and coach. They're not winning with three-pointers. Seattle is so extraordinarily uniquely coached and deep special teams, defense. They don't play by the same rules, everybody. he does. You don't go for it on fourth and five. That's not a go either way called. That's a pin Drake made deep. They can't put first downs together. Pin him deep. Take the points. Nine nothing felt like 24 nothing. Six nothing felt like 14. Nothing. Like football is much closer to UFC than math class. Sometimes intimidation, tough, getting

into the psyche or the head of your opponents. Drake May is an accurate thrower. You watched him in that game. He was intimidated. He didn't want to get hit. Drake May was rattled. He was nervous. He was intimidated. That doesn't show up in analytics.

Pin him deep. Here's Sam Darnold on not carrying the load and field goals in the Super Bowl. Because of the guys in the locker room, because of our coaching staff, working their butts off every single day. Like, you know, that's why we're all here.

You know, offense, again, didn't, I feel like we didn't play as good as we could have. I certainly didn't play as good as I could have, but our defense had our back, our special teams had are back, and we got the win. So I'm not anti-analytic, and not everybody can play by Seattle or Denver's rules. But all year long, Denver was a remarkable fourth quarter team. And I think Sean Payton's feeling was, our defense is so exceptional. We're going to take the points.

We're going to end drives. We're going to punt. We're not going to take big risks. I will open up the playbook in the fourth quarter. I will take more risks. Some do our demise in the fourth quarter. But there are teams in this league this year like Denver and Houston and Seattle. Going for it makes no sense.

Kansas City for a three-year period with Spag's defense. They never went. Oh, Andy Reed, Mahomes. They rarely went for it. Go for it. Why? I know everybody loves math. Okay.

A lot of times in this sport, momentum is huge. And Seattle's defense was in Drake May and Josh McDaniel's head. Don't let them off the hook. J. Mack, last night was a refreshing. LeBron James coming out and admitting we're not very good. Did you hear that?

I did hear that, yeah. They played great against O'KC. fell down the stretch, struggle. SGA. SGA didn't play. Neither did Luca. You know, Austin Reeves coming off the bench still on a minute's restriction. Wouldn't it be nice to watch an NBA game

and the stars play? I mean, listen, man, it's a long season. 82 games. What do you want? Funny because I watched the Super Bowl and all the starters were playing. And they tackle each other. I mean, it's a four-month season.

He played 17 games versus 82. Come on. What do you bagging on the NBA for? Come on. I love to see the stars occasionally show up. Who are you, Charles Barkley? What's going on? Come on.

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So, like, everybody's kind of averaged defensively, except the really great teams, like, you know, like San Antonio, Detroit, OKC, they're great defensive teams, but they even turn it up a notch in the postseason. And the NBA officials swallow their whistles in the postseason. So defense matters a lot in the NBA, not now. So the Lakers are fools gold in the regular season. Nobody plays defense. They're terrible at it.

But you don't really notice because nobody ratchets it up. So I'm reading the L.A. Times two days ago here in L.A. and watching the Lakers last night. And a couple days ago, the L.A. Times readers, they're smart. They know what the problem is. Every single letter to the editor about the Lakers was, we're not very good defensively. In fact, we're atrocious. The Laker fans know the problem.

They've watched a lot of great basketball. When they had Magic as their star, they had Kareem and Michael Cooper. When the Warriors had Steph as their star, they have Andre Igwadala. They have Draymond Green. If your best player, Luca, is a great offensive player, but tremendously limited, often hunted on defense, You got to surround him with help. Rob Polinka has the opposite issue. He has built an offensive roster where all the best players are below average defensively.

LeBron used to be great, but now he's old. So I think Laker fans know the issue. They don't know the size of the wrecking ball needed. You keep Luca and JJ Redick. Everything else, the bench is atrocious. Athletically, they are the slowest team in the league. the slow you can measure that now so they're slow they're poor defensively they're not athletic they don't have enough three-point shooters they have arguably the worst bench in the league but again you have a

great young offensive coach and a superstar you got to build this team differently and you got to get off this austin reeves everything is on the table after luca and j j reddick everything Austin Reeves last night, do you see what OKC did? They hunted him. And players shot 50% when Austin Reeves guarded them. There'll be some dope EGM in the league that thinks this guy is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. Get picks, move people. He's a nice player.

But when Luke is your star, if you have Austin Reeves next to him, now you've got two suboptimal defenders. So the three best teams in this league are the three best defensive teams in this league. OKC, San Antonio, and Detroit. So defense matters. And Laker fans are smart. They really are. And so is LeBron. They just don't have enough athletes.

They don't have enough shooters. They don't have enough rim protection. But in the regular season where nobody's playing elite defense consistently, you can fool people. As, oh, man, they're really in the playoffs, in fact, I would say once the trade deadline's done in about a month you'll start watching the defense as people worry about seating it's like oh the league changes then you can see a clear gap between the lakers and okayc last night okayc on the road they got a flu on the team sGA's not playing they still shot almost

49% from the field but lebron after brutally honest and he knows basketball and has been in this league for 20 plus years you want me to compare us to that have No, I want to know where you think, though, that's sort of as this team is on. It's like, that's a championship team right there. We're not. So, I'm learning the same. What are the biggest things you think that are keeping this team as this? We can't sustain energy and effort for 48 minutes.

And they can. That's why I won a championship. OKC is the Seahawks. They've drafted better. They're better upstairs. They've got waves of players. I mean, New England's defense. is good, but you saw them at the end of the second quarter.

The Patriots looked tired. And Seattle never did, because Seattle has waves of depth that New England is still a draft away from developing. And so, Seahawks and OKC are very similar. People may not always love their star quarterback of their star player who's seeking the whistle, but in the end, just layers and layers. That's why playing Oklahoma City, especially late in the season, is so valuable. a measuring stick.

Because I'm telling you, we're about a month of six weeks away from NBA teams caring about defense, like even in the first quarter. And that's when you can really see the holes in this roster. And Rob Palenka has created a fun team, a good offensive team. I like watching the Lakers play. But I don't think anybody understands the wrecking ball this thing needs. JMAQ with the news. No, no, no, no.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, we'll be to the NBA. shortly, but let's start with this Super Bowl, Colin. Interesting nugget here from Devin Witherspoon, the great defensive back from the Seahawks. Obviously, Seattle's defense dominated the Super Bowl

force three turnovers, sack Drake May six times, but they saw a tell defensively and pounced on it. Here's Wetherspoon. We kind of knew what they was going to do, how they was going to attack us, and how they was going to get feature who and certain people of the ball. So we had a great game plan like that.

We kind of knew how they tackles and guards were going to set in certain past protections. And when I there and attacked it. You know, they was kind of struggling in this playoffs a couple of times. You know, a couple people got out of them. So we knew what we was going to do and how we were going to attack them. A tell, like in poker, there's a tell. Something they do that nobody in New England's aware of.

They have to scout themselves. But Seattle could call their own defensive plays in the last second. There was a tell. Well, I'll tell you this. Left tackle needs to be upgraded. Oh, boy. Will Campbell getting roasted on the internet. Forget it.

Just an embarrassing performance. I know that they're saying maybe he was injured. He had some knee thing. Yeah, interesting how convenient that is. Drake May got a shot after the game. We heard nothing about it in the days leading. And remember, fairness to Will Campbell, he was, came in with arm length issues. It was one of the weaker drafts in the last decade.

He was serviceable. He was a serviceable left tackle. It's very possible that you move him inside or to right tackle, and he could have, he could flourish. In all fairness, he also faced. Texans, Khalil Mac. I mean, if you start looking at...

Broncos. I mean, the Broncos, not Khalil Mac. I think he's on the other side. I'm not sure right now. Chargers, yeah. Chargers. But, I mean, he faced four or five

of the best pass rushers in the sport and got gobbled up. Yeah, offensive line just got obliterated. They need to fix that short up in the offseason, but they got money. They're going to be fine. I don't think they're going back to the Super Bowl. Would you agree?

I agree with you. Yeah, I think they're going to be really good. I don't think... Because there's like a Dan Marino thing. remember Dan Marino goes to the Super Bowl year two. Everybody's like, oh, Marina's going to never got back. And with Don Chula, the winning as coach in league history. If I gave over under half another Super Bowl appeared, well, Drake may get back.

I think he'll get back to a Super Bowl, absolutely. But I think the AFC was weird. Kansas City had a rare down year. Baltimore had a rare down year. I mean, Burrow, all of us, you know, and I think you and I both believe that Denver and the Chargers are both better next year. I mean, I think the Chargers are going to look. Nick's isn't missing that game, they probably beat the Patriots in the answer. A very fair assessment.

So like, I'm not, I know Patriots fans, you're a hater. No, I'm being a realist. Your schedule was a joke. Yeah. And you looked off on the posties. All right, let's go to the NBA, Colin. Listen, this was kind of ugly last night. Pistons, Hornets. Hornets are hot. They had won nine straight. And then this happened. Jalen Duren back and down the moose. They go face to face. Duren mushes him, and it was on and popping. Oh, my goodness. Swings. I mean, this got ugly. And then Miles Bridges jumps in, as you'll see here.

And then after he does that, you know, Isaiah Stewart, aka Beef, Stu gets involved. This was hearkening back to the days of the Detroit bad boy pistons. That's what this feels like. Hey, Detroit is a good watch and they are a good team. They're pretty good. Number one scene is right now. Okay, drafted and developed. They've done it the OKC way, not flashy, good GM, draft and develop.

You know, we watched them last year, and what did we say last year? They're a year away. They don't know how to win yet. Well, they do now. I kind of like the attitude. Interesting. Look at that. Miles Bridges saying, oh, you step in to my guy?

Miles Bridges, of course, has had his own issues. I want... You like this. I want my NBA teams to care. How about you could care but not throw punches? Well, I don't love... Duncan Robinson's like, come on, what do we do? I don't love...

I mean, most of these NBA guys, I mean, they talk a big game, but they, you know... Yeah. I don't want this, man. I don't want it, but it's not the end of the world. I like my teammate defending my guys. I'm just saying I don't think it's the end of the world I think it is

NBA because of the malice in the palace is terrified of this stuff Yeah this doesn't look good man Well guess what? There was great NBA games last night Baseball teams fight NFL teams fight Yeah we make fun of that stuff

Baseball morons charging the mound Idiot hockey Why can NBA guys a couple times a year fight Okay Now the fans are close to them Men dude What are we doing throwing fun punches? What do you think they're in the NFL?

Children? Morons. Throwing punches on guys with helmets in the NFL? That's even dumber. Listen, go watch an NFL training camp when you have two days of Ravens playing commanders. Multiple. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is pro sports.

Detroit is trying to set an agenda. You're not going to play around with us. Okay. Hey, just Detroit. Be ready. Somebody roughs up Cade Cunningham in the postseason because you guys are acting like this. Be ready for it, because I'm telling you, they're going to come headhunting for Cade Cunningham. He's like the only guy Detroit has offensively.

I like the Pistons as a regular season team. Oh, okay. Nicks are better. Knicks are coming out of the east. You want to put some cheddar on that we can. It ain't going to be the Pistons. Sorry, guys. Final story, we're sticking in the NBA juicy, scupier.

What? Colin, so the Dallas Mavericks, obviously Mark Cuban had sold his portion of the team back to then to Patrick Dumont in 2023. Well, reports are indicating that he did. Dallas Investment Group wants to pair with Cuban and buy back the team largely because Patrick Dumont is such a disaster as owner of the Mavericks. Well, that was a weird. I mean, listen, Cuban was brilliant to sell it. Okay, but this happens a lot. You sell a company and then you leave the company and the company's a wreck because you were a huge component to the success. The new guys just don't care as much. They don't. I would love to see Mark buy it back. Can you imagine? letting Luca Donchich go.

That's how it showed the guy doesn't care. He trusted the dude Nico Harrison who's been fired. I think he's working at Outback Steakhouse right now in Dallas. Do we have to take shots? I'm sorry. I mean, bottom line is he ruined everything, and I'll say this. Cooper Flag is amazing. And you know that.

He is the future of this league. He needs good ownership. I have never seen a 19-year-old as complete as Cooper Flagg. He has literally no elite defender, great size, aggressive, catch and shoot, handle the ball, play points, slash, floaters. He's got like a 28-year-olds game. Yeah, I mean, he's amazing. He is an amazing player.

You know, Adam Silver, I haven't spoken to Adam Silver, he'll be out here, obviously, for all-star festivities. I'm guessing he would like Mark Cuban back in the league, because Mark Cuban is an aggressive owner. He's passionate. He's front row at every game, cares deeply, and I think he would be a good steward for Cooper Flagg in Dallas. I just want to see Cooper Flaggett get good teammates.

Yeah. I just want to see him. get his guys. That roster right now, I think... Well, the NBA makes trading difficult. I don't like that they did that. Listen, we both like Adam Silver. First of all, stop being paralyzed with tanking.

It's happening now, a third of the league's tanking. If you want a tank, you can. Get over it. I mean, it's just like you can't... There's certain things you can't stop speeding in America. Right. So raise the speed limit. People are going to go 65 driving home in the 405.

They're not going to go 55. They'll want to get home and see their kids. Stop it. Don't be paralyzed. by it. Faster doesn't mean more accidents, strangely, because cars are built better now than they were in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s. The second thing is, stop worrying about tanking. The bottom line is you want bad teams to get good. Let them get last year's draft, this year's draft. I want Utah, because Utah looks like they're not interested in winning a title. I want to see them get the kid from Kansas. That's a great basketball

community. And so that's the number one thing. The second thing is they make trading very difficult NBA. The reason you can go from 4 and 13 to 14 and 3 in the NFL, you can go buy and trade players all the time. And so like I like I like I like I like I like the NBA but it's so hard to go from bad to good NFL you can do it in six months. Well you could say okayC had uh, Durant and Westbrook and Hardin then went to the bottom. You dropped the chet home grid jubb traded for the Celtics and the okayc thunder didn't really bottom out. Why? Because they have brilliant GMs. Well, okay, so they sank. They didn't bottom out. Detroit bottomed out.

Detroit was horrible for 15 years. Got Cade Cunningham and now they're the number one. Like, you do need that superstar. And that's the problem with the Lakers. You know, we can get to them later. But like, Lakers, they just won a title five years ago. It's tough to stay on top when you're not drafting at the top. They got no good young players.

They don't have a single elite defensive player. OKC's got eight. That's an issue. JMAQ with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. I hope. Top of next hour, five up, five down. Five teams that will absolutely, inarguably better, be better next year. And it's not all just wins and record. They'll look better, they'll feel better, they'll be in the right direction, five up and five down. And some of the five downs are good teams now, but they've caught breaks. Their division's getting tougher. They're pulling back. Listen, yesterday and Sunday, everybody is beating up on Drake May.

And I wanted to add perspective here because he seems like a nice kid. So Drake May faced Seattle and Houston's defenses. The two best defenses in the NFL, they look different. And between the two, he got sacked 11 times and had six turnovers and a pass a rating of 87. It was bad. But I want to remind everybody that one year ago, Sam Darnold faced the Rams in the playoffs. Horrible protection.

And Donald was sacked nine times two turnovers and a passerating in the 70s. A year later, Sam Darnold is great. A year later, Sam Darnold, a month ago, faced the Rams. Three touchdowns, no picks, 346 yards, 128 passer rated. So for the record, New England plays the season. The Hawks next year, regular season. Don't be shocked if Drake May, they upgrade and buy a left tackle. They move Will Campbell inside.

And that's one of the great things about the NFL. Every six months, I mean, you see massive changes. Go look at the Chicago Bears operation three weeks after Ben Johnson took over. It was like, the language changed, the attitude changed. I mean, I can make an argument. the best team in the NFL was Seattle. The second best team was the Rams. The third best team at the end of the year, am I wrong?

It was either Denver or the Bears. The Rams had to play a perfect game offensively in Chicago to beat the Bears in overtime. The Bears were a circus a year ago. The Patriots 4 and 13 to 14 and 3. So Drake May faces the Seahawks, probably early. They'll probably be.

That could be your first Thursday game. And don't be surprised if they upgrade the offensive line. He's 100% healthy. So outside of Matt Stafford, the Seahawks defense made a lot of good quarterbacks look totally inept. Here's how good Seattle's defense was. Twice in a three-week period, they made Christian McCaffrey invisible. Invisible. Four times in seven, eight years has Kyle Shanahan been taught.

totally stymied. Two of the four times were against Seattle this year. They made a lot of people not named Matt Stafford look inept. So starting quarterbacks against the Seahawks this season, including the playoffs, if you take Stafford out, had 17 touchdowns, 21 picks, and a passer rating at 74, if you just take out, Stap, well, Drake May is not its Stafford's. level right now, especially with their leaking left tackle, left o-line space. So it just

just defending Drake May what makes this league great. Sam Donald one year ago was atrocious against the Rams, because he got sack nine times. And Seattle upgrades, you know, that minute, that was Minnesota. Then he goes to Seattle. He's got a better defense.

He's got a better defensive coach. He's got J.S.N. I mean, the left side of the offensive line, Gray's able, Charles Cross, he's got Walker the running back, and all of a sudden Sam is like, oh, facing the Rams. Played his best game as a pro, I think, against the Rams. Last time he faced him. Oh, coming up next, people are freaking out because the best college basketball player, arguably, is never available. He's missed 11 of 24 games for Kansas.

They won despite his absence last night over a really good Arizona team. I'd probably pick today to win it all. But should you draft him? What do you do with him? He's never available. Does he love basketball? That's next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

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Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of my Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Tonight on FS1, it's a huge college basketball triple header. First, 13th ranked Purdue takes on seventh ranked Nebraska at 7 Eastern. Then fifth ranked Iowa faces TCU at 9. And in the Mountain West, San Jose State battles UNLV at 11. It all tips off tonight on FS1. So the upcoming NBA draft will be pretty special.

It's got three or four great players, one at BYU, one at Duke. And Darren Peterson plays for Kansas. He's the closest looking player I've seen to Kobe Bryant. He's a jump off the television player. They played Arizona last night. It was in Lawrence, Kansas, and Kansas won, but Peterson didn't play. So a huge win for Kansas. Arizona's outstanding.

Peterson didn't play. In fact, he's missed 11 of their 24 starts, cramping. Last night he had flu. And there's a lot of concern. Whoa, I'm hearing this. Whoa, you can't draft this guy. The NBA makes trading difficult. The NFL does not.

If you can get a Kobe Bryant-level athlete, you draft him. Okay. It is a 3-and-D league. He is a long wing who can shoot 3. he's basically what everybody in the league needs more of except maybe okayc Lakers need four of him okay you draft him I remember years ago Christian McCaffrey skipped the Sun Bowl and people are like whoa hey you got to show up for your team it was the Sun Bowl and he was a transformational

running back talent you draft Christian McCaffrey if he's available one of the most talented guys that's ever played a position. You draft him. When it comes to sports and music and entertainment, these are not like punch the clock working class jobs. You got some drama, you got some high maintenance, you've got a lot of different things that aren't involved in most of our jobs. A dentist and an accountant do not have the personality of Bruno Mars. To be that creative and that unique, it's going to be a different cat. Athletes are the same. they can be sometimes kind of lobsided, a little overly dramatic. Whatevs?

The kid's special. You draft him. Like there's just some things that you have to deal with. Like if you live in Arizona, you need a pool. It's not going to elevate. It's going to be expensive. You'll have to resurface it. It may leak.

The maintenance is a pain in the butt. And you'll never ever pain in the butt. You'll never get your money back on a pool. You'll get it back on a kitchen. You'll get it back on your bathrooms. you'll never get the money back on a pool. But if you live in Arizona, you've got to have one. And if you're in the NBA, you've got to have this kid.

Can shoot threes, can handle the ball, insanely athletic, probably gets better defensively. Not everybody's Cooper flag. In fact, not anybody else is Cooper flag, where you're 19 years old and you don't even have a flaw. Like you're completely fully formed. So, well, he's not always available. He's had cramping.

And guys skipped bowl games. Doesn't make it right. It's not a make it right decision. It's a that is exactly what we need. And there's nobody like him in the sport. I would make him the number one pick. I just, I don't, he, it's funny. I was told before the season, you got to, you got to see this kid for Kansas.

In fact, I forget who told me. And I said, okay, I watched. four possessions. And I was like, oh my guy, it was like Kobe Bryant. And then I went online and I'm like, okay, it's, it's an obvious one. You draft him. You build a pool in Arizona. It doesn't matter what it costs.

It's 120 in the summer. Get a pool. Draft that guy. Here's Bill Self on the kid not playing last night and still winning. Well, we don't know if it's the flu. It's flu like symptoms. At least that's what I've been told. So he didn't practice yesterday.

but we were hoping he could play today and, you know, he came out for shooting around and wasn't able to go. I thought adrenaline would kick in, and he would go. And, you know, he was at shoot-around today. I mean, he was out there, you know, but just what you could just tell, he didn't feel great. But we were all hopeful that he'd kick in

and be ready to go. So you sound like you bet on the game. So, but no, there was no ploy with that at all. Yeah, he's, Jay Mack who is betting Duquesne basketball games and unders on a regular basis.

The kid at BYU, hyperathletic, this kid feels more refined, boozer at Duke feels ready to play immediately, but I don't know how you could talk yourself. He is what the league is looking for. Athletic wings who can shoot three. That's exactly...

And defend. And defend. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how, great of a defender is. It's hard to help. He ate up DeBanza from BYU a couple weeks ago in a head-to-head matchup. He was great in the first half. I'm with you. I think you got to take Peterson. I remember I had a guy on my podcast, these draft analysts ahead of Anthony Edwards' lamello ball draft. And this guy was saying, listen, Anthony Edwards, there's a lot of teams saying he doesn't love basketball. He said that. Is he devouring tape? And Anthony Edwards is publicly,

like, I don't watch tape. I like football. Like, I like a lot of, I have activities. Sounds a lot like Trevor Lawrence. Remember the knocks against him? But you still, Trevor Lawrence is so skilled it's Jacksonville. You get him Leon Combe and you're like a playoff team. So like you can't, I couldn't do that at my job. You don't have a 47 inch vertical. Totally different. It's just and the other thing is he's at a position that's very necessary. Like Ben Simmons when he came out and it didn't work out. But Ben Simmons was a six, nine and a half point guard who defended scored at the rim. And we couldn't shoot. And he had to. an attitude. But I talked to two executives in the league, two scouts, and they're like,

that's as good a prospect. I love Ben Simmons. For the record, didn't he make an all-star game the first year? He made all NBA. Like he was a really talented player. He made all NBA, and then he didn't. And then he went sideways. You still draft somebody because the NFL allows you, you can trade anybody anytime. You could have traded Tom Brady in your prime. You could trade Joe Burrow tomorrow. That's not the NBA. It's very, I mean, how long is it going to be until the Washington Wizards are good? It's been, it feels like 30 years. And they had John Wall and they've had good players and Bradley Beale and they're never good.

In the NFL, the minute the bears get the right coach, they keep the same owners, the same president, the same GM, they have the same quarterback. They just bring in a head coach. You're like, are they a fourth or fifth best team in the league? Yeah. So it's that's not the NBA. You just, in the NFL, you can be pickier. I mean, in the NFL, Brock Purdy's the last player taken. In the NBA, this is a very good draft.

You get to about the 14th pick, and it's a prospect. You're kind of projecting on what that, it's probably a rotational player. This is a really good draft. The last draft was good. But after Ace Bailey in this last draft, and there'll be some guys that pop. But there were about five guys. You're like, yeah, those guys are going to be great players. and then like six through 12, you're like, those should be very good players.

And then you're projecting. But again, like Yokich and SGA are two of the best guys in the league, they were not upper cross draft picks. They were not like top five guys. That's right. Yucch second round. So it can happen, but it's more rare. And look at Tom Brady, six-round pick.

That happens a lot in football. Okay, Jeff Goodman covers college basketball. There was an NBA GM that talked about this. He said, people are overreacting. It's not that big of a deal. We got guys in the NBA who missed two months with a strain hammy. A lot of guys would have shut him down for the rest of the season. Pump the brakes.

People get the flu. People also have to remember it's a small snapshot of his entire career. He's probably the number one pick. We'll see. When you watch him play, if you don't have to like college basketball, watch a half. Give it 35 minutes. You'll be like, whoa. He's not Cooper Flagg, but he is like a big-time blue chip prospect.

There's like four of them. A boozer, by the way. I know you mentioned him. he's really good against unc though their length gave him problems the big guys you don't take earlier than the wings because the wing is the most coveted position in baffair yeah right now it's like when i grow up as like when i was kid younger it was bigs yeah you had there were so few bigs on the planet you got a big and that led for the record that led to a ton of busts i can find you 12 great centers all time i can find you 40 first round center busts sam bowie over michael jordan

remember in the draft. That was like one of the biggest whiffs of all time. I mean, Greg Oden going one, a lot of bigs getting into the jury. Sam Bowie was remarkable. Sam Bowie was remarkable. Go YouTube, Sam Bowie, pulling up on the left wing shooting 18 footers. He was ahead of his time.

He fell apart. Yeah. So it's, I don't know, it's, all I know is this is not, you have to think about a lot of different things, like the movie Moneyball. when Brad Pitt's playing Billy Bean and he's like, you know, there's the Yankees,

there's this, and then we're a mile below that. You have to know what you can possibly do, and in the NBA, what you're trying to fight, let's say this kid ends up being 75 to 80% of what he could be. So instead of averaging 29, he averages 23. You get about 68 games a year. He's pretty good defensively. He's fun to watch.

He's dynamic, but he doesn't quite, he doesn't quite love it like you wish he'd love it you'd still take him the the other thing is when somebody is this gifted like lebron was so good you draft lebron over carmello and carmello was a great college player for a year at circus very good you draft lebron because if you don't it will ruin your career trading lucca to the lakers ruin nico harrison's career this kid his highlight package, you have to draft him either one or two. I would take him one, but you have to.

I mean, he's just, sometimes you do things to save your own bacon. You pass on this kid and he goes to a really good roster and is doing 24 and 6. And playoff basketball, you're losing your job as a GM.

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