The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Jayson Tatum's Return & Geno Smith's Release

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

Jonas Knox & LaVar Arrington fill in for Colin as they discuss the inevitable return of Jayson Tatum to the Boston Celtics after his devastating knee injury last year. Plus, the guys react to the news of Geno Smith being released by the Raiders, talk about the potential of Fernando Mendoza in Las Vegas, we have JJ Redick's comments on Herdline News, and more!! #2prosSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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appropriate we talk about somebody who was also back. Jason Tatum, less than 10 months after suffering the Achilles tear in the playoff game against the New York Knicks will be in the lineup for the Boston Celtics coming up later on tonight against the Dallas Mavericks.

I know, LeVar, you've dealt with the Achilles issue before. I'm kind of surprised that he's back this soon, but here we go with the return Jason Tatum to an already really good Boston Celtics team who probably didn't expect they were going to be in this spot

at this point in the year. A really good Jalen Brown led Boston Celtics team, we should add. And listen, I look at it like this. The professional, even just any type of competition,

right? College, pro, even high school. When you've established yourself as the guy. You're the franchise. Things are handled a certain type of way. You do things a certain type of way. You're treated a certain type of way.

The respect factor is very different. When you get injured, there's a moment of truth, right? It either solidifies, further solidifies your efforts that you've put forth as a healthy player and how the team has been able to accomplish. And when that participation is gone due to an injury, it either shows, yep, Jason Tatum is the reason why we were able to win. We got a championship

world title. We're set for the future. You got a sidekick in and Jalen Brown, but Jason Tatum is the guy. Jason Tatum goes down, but yet this team is second in the Eastern Conference. They're 71, 41 and 21 on the season, and they're in great position to make a deep run in the NBA playoffs. It has emerged that Jalen Brown could be in the conversation of being, the new face and franchise player for this Celtics team.

So now Jason Tatum is tasked with not only coming back and playing, but now he may be saddled with the pressure of coming back as quickly as he possibly can before you realize that the value of you being the franchise guy all but dissipates fully from the situation. It's a really interesting call by Boston, by Tatum, because if they weren't this good, I wonder if this is even a conversation. Because if you look at two other examples around the league,

Damien Lillard and Tyrese Halliburton, both tore their Achilles in the playoffs last year, there's not even a thought that they're going to come back because those two teams are awful. Okay, the highlight of the Blazers season thus far was a guy with the ruptured Achilles winning the three-point contest. Which, by the way, he went back to the Blazers.

Considering that, he toured somewhere else and they didn't need them there. So the two highlights for the Blazers this year, not to call out the Blazers fan base, but your two highlights are an injured guy winning the three-point contest and your coach involved in some poker scheme. Okay. So like you got card counters and three-point shootout winners. You don't have a good team. All right, maybe a little bit better than expected.

And then Indiana is awful. Okay, whatever happened last year in Indiana, they are the diaper fire of the East. They might finish with the worst record in the league. And so the Pacers and Blazers are like, hey, guys, take your time. Take this, take your time. You know, we've got a legitimate excuse this year. We're terrible. All of a sudden Boston starts out the year and it's like, whoa, nobody thought this was going to happen.

There was the feeling was, hey, man, it's a throwaway year. And it's not even just the Jason Tatum stuff. Al Horford gone, Drew Holiday gone, Christop's poor Zingas gone. Those were all key members of the title team just a couple of years ago, but they were trying to get below the second apron. So they just said, hey, man, these are salary cap casualties, is what it is. This isn't our year. Our best player is gone.

We'll just roll out. We'll try and compete as hard as we can. Maybe we'll sneak in and be a seven or an eight team. We'll be in the play-in tournament, whatever. But we're just going to roll this season and really going to focus on 2027. And then all of a sudden, they're this through 60 plus games. And I just wonder, are you making this decision, if not for the fact that this team's a legitimate title contender,

especially with Tatum back? It's, again, the points you make are accurate points, right? The teams that you're discussing, they aren't competitive teams. You look at this Celtics team and where they were at. and the conversations that were ensuing, that were taking place in real time. It was always Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. Yep.

And being in second place, Jason Tatum is not available all season long. And Jalen Brown is averaging, what is it, 29 points. seven rebounds per game and they're atop the Eastern Conference. So there's second place. If you're looking at where things go from here on out, does it go back to Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown

or does it stay Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum? Insert Jason Tatum. I think that that is a very real conversation. I think the Celtics feel confident about where they're at. Outside of there being some really, really big names, like SGA is in pole position to get MVP again. You're seeing what, I don't know if y'all watched Wemby last night,

but Wemby is bawling, man. I saw him hanging outside of a car dealership. There was some sale going on. Wemby's foot is as long as this desk. His foot is as long as this desk were sitting at doing this show. Him and Chet Holmgren should just go as wind puppets for Halloween the next 70s. years. Just do that. Costume covered, cheap, inexpensive, throw some drapes on and let it, let's call it a day. Wemby takes two steps. His foot, the tip of his toe from getting a

rebound is at mid court in two steps. Oh, yeah, yeah. The tip of his toe is at mid court in two steps. Yeah. He doesn't have feet. He's got skis. They're talking about Michael Jordan and Dr. J. doing dunks from the free throw line. Wimby's toe, in his reach, he could probably move it back to, I don't know, mid-court? Of course, yeah. We're going to start seeing Wimby take off. He's going to do the dunk contest.

He's going to take off from mid-court and dunk the ball, like that never seen before. On his ass. Long, br, and his foot's still going to be on the ground at mid-court when he takes off. He's just going to have a super stretch. outside of these high profile guys being up for the MVP, Jalen Brown's name is in the conversation for a league MVP this year. Some have them as high as two. DeMarcus cousins has gone on record.

He's as high as the second best player in the NBA all the way up to 6 to 8 where his name falls in terms of best player MVP. But if we're being real, if we're being real, Does Jalen Brown have the same supporting cast that SGA does? Does he have the same supporting cast as what Wimbunyama has? I would say no. You just mentioned some Orford's gone. Jason Tatum hasn't been around.

There's a different group of people. It's a new group of people this season for the Celtics. And yet they're playing out a high level, which would lead to the conversation of is he the most valuable player to his team? Maybe they're not the best team, but they're certainly up there with the best teams. So you can use the criteria that they have a really competitive team,

a good team that's ranked high because you have to win for them to consider you a MVP. And now you see Jason Tatum sitting back watching like, I can't let the ship get too far. He's swimming, bro. It ain't docked. Well, that's what I wonder. It's not boarding the ship.

That ship has sailed, but can he catch it? And can he board this ship and reestablish himself for what it was that he once was before the injury? And that's what I wonder is, does he feel like, like, if they were, you know, a 500 team, is he in any rush to get back? No, no, take your time, take your time, take your time. And I can understand the approach of, well, if you're doing this good without him, why would you even force the issue? But I wonder how much of this is him. How much of this is Tatum going, man, I want back in. And that's why I asked because you went through the Achilles.

I retired. Like, what does that look like? That thing had a grown man in tears, bro. And I got a pretty high paying threshold. And I limped for like two, three years after I got that surgery. Like, it was a very pain. I've been through some painful things. Was it a limper?

Both. Yeah. You know, both, both a lean and a limp. You know, because when you, when you, yeah, when you moving around with that hammer, sometimes you lean and sometimes you limp. But this one in particular was based off of me limping because my Achilles tendon was really tight. It was really sore. And it just felt like if you, if you don't know.

what it feels like to injure a part as important as your Achilles, you realize it after. And I likened it to like air in a tire. I didn't realize you could say, okay, air and a tire for your feet and for your legs. But it really felt like the bounce and the reactiveness of my foot was gone. It was gone. Like the movement of how you pop off of your toes and on your foot and that torque that goes through the bottom of your leg into your calf muscle and then shoots up into your quads and then back into the glutes it was gone it was gone and and so you have to figure out many have done it i mean it's very commonplace to come back from that type of injury and that type of procedure many have done it but it is very difficult and it is time consuming it's almost as time

consuming and it's almost i mean it's the biggest i believe it's the biggest ligament in your body You're ACL. I mean, you're Achilles tendon. It's the biggest tendon in your body. And it's just, that's a difficult injury to come back from and be effective like you once were, let alone come back in an abbreviated amount of time to do so. We're going to catch up with Dr. David Chow coming up later on.

As soon as he gets done sparring Ryan Leaf at an octagon somewhere, whatever that gets figured out. But I bring that up because Reggie Miller was on the Dan Patrick show, which you can hear on many of these Fox Sports Radio affiliates, and he sort of explained the reasoning why some feel that Tatum is also coming back sooner than a Tyrese Halliburton and a Dame Lillard. Let's take a listen. The best thing, if there was knock on wood,

the best thing when he tore his Achilles in game five, I believe, in New York, that the doctor was right there, that they attached it right away. And the thinking was, the body didn't even know that it had that traumatic experience. That's how quickly within 24 hours, they had the surgery on the Achilles.

So that's why he is so far ahead of schedule versus Damien Lillard or Tyrese Halliburton is because they had the surgery within 24 hours. You not buying that? You not buying that? What do you? Hell now. Reggie Miller, M.D., you're not going to buy his thought process there?

First of all, the body is way more intelligent than any doctor that will ever work on you. And looking at Jason Tatum after the injury, it sure seemed like his body knew what was going on. I'll be honest with you. Don't give it time to know that. It's torn. Then just finish the game. He looked like the guy going through the wood chipper on Fargo. How much time is that that you had that has to elapse before your body knew that that your dad?

You know, like, hey, just give him some mouth-to-mouth before he realized that he died, you know. That's a theory. I love Reggie Miller, but I'm not in on this one. You heard Dan like, oh, really? Like, huh? Like, hey, cut, go to break. Reggie is, he's officially lost it. And that's, you know, and he's passing the message on from whatever, you know, was said on the documentary.

I just, look, and people heal differently and people heal faster. That is true. People heal differently. Adrian Peterson came back from that knee injury in what, and was, like, there was no difference between when he came back from knee injury and when he didn't, other than, you know, not being able to keep his left hand up and a scuffle after a poker game. But that, again, we're not bringing up the old stuff. Okay. But so there's different, people heal differently.

I understand that timelines can be a little different. It just feels like a lot of this was sped up because of how the team is done without him. If they were 500, if they were below 500, I don't think there's a shot in hell he comes back this year. That would have been a better question to ask Reggie Miller. That would have been a better question. Like, didn't that happen with Clay and Steph Curry? wasn't Clay Thompson the main dude and then in some way somehow

I don't know if injury was connected to it but didn't Steph Curry like take the reins like they you know like became the main guy and it never changed never turned back he became the franchise guy he became the face of the franchise legend Hall of Famer goat

there's not going to be a better player that has ever played for the Golden State War Warriors, then Golden State, yeah, Golden State Warriors, then Steph Curry. So I think this is a necessity move, whether that's the entirety of it. It doesn't have to be untrue that he wants to come back and he wants to play. Of course. But if you're not going to add into the equation, the amount of pressure mounting on Jason Tatum looking at this Jalen Brown-led team.

Like, imagine if Michael Jordan went out and was injured due to a ACL or Achilles tendon injury. And while he's out, Scotty Pippen is just going nuts. Look at the Nick Foles Carson Wentz stuff. Carson Wentz was never the same. It was never the same. And, like, he always... And he don't have a statue.

And he was on that team. That knee injury that he suffered against the Rams at the Coliseum, which, by the way, is an outhouse. Or at least it was back then. But that injury he suffered at the Coliseum, that changed the course of his career. Yes, it did. Because where's he? Where's he now? I think he's in Minnesota?

Is he? He's still in the league? I think. There it is. Because I think he always felt like, wow, I was on track to be an MVP and potentially a Super Bowl champion as a starter and maybe a Super Bowl MVP. And instead, my backup went in there and did. I don't think he ever got over that. Bro, they call

the place Winselvania. There was a moment in time where they said Winselvania. That's how well he was doing that season. You couldn't grow any more hype and excitement

around the player. So you're 100% spot on in that reference. And need I say, Jalen Brown is a number one guy on 90% of the NBA teams. And also, by the way, when they won their title, who was the MVP of those finals? Jalen Brown. So like it's not as if, you know, this is a real surprise,

but it does, it does bring up an interesting dynamic of. Hey, man. What does that look like? I'm the captain of his ship now player. Hey, my ship now. I'm the captain now. I'm the captain now. It is the herd here on Fox Sports Radio.

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another edition of the herd line news that'll be yours right here on FSR but we do have some news out of the NFL and what a run it was Gino Smith's been released by the Las Vegas Raiders Highlights for Gino Smith include.

LeVar, go ahead. There you go. Highlights from this season. Okay, there you go. You know, I get the... Look, Sam Darnold winning... Sam Darnel, because I want to be kind about this, because I like Gino Smith.

All right, he seems like a good guy from everything I've heard. but, you know, maybe not. Maybe, you know, he had something to do with Chip Kelly getting clipped and blamed for everything. Maybe Chip Kelly had something to do with getting clipped. I mean, you know, that could be that too. But I think everybody deserved probably a little bit of blame there. But the Gino Smith-Carrill decision by the Raiders, ill-advised based on what happened last year. And I know that I get the thought process behind it.

It was, you know, Gino-Smith and Pete Carroll have a great relationship. Pete Carroll helped revitalize Geno Smith's career when he got to Seattle. They did some really good things. And the thought was, all right, well, let's bring him here and let's pair these guys back up together. And if you just look at what happened to Seattle this year where there was a clear decision to move on from Pete Carroll, there was a clear decision to move on from Gino Smith.

And I said at the time, I didn't really understand what the difference was between Gino Smith and Sam Darnold. and just to see the way that this turned out in Las Vegas, just a brutal experience for everybody involved to where they looked like they got worse every year. And the thought was, well, you can't do worse than Antonio Pierce. No, upon further review, that wasn't Antonio Pierce problem. There was just issues there because that team stunk.

And so now, Gino Smith finds himself on the market. You know, we'll probably get picked up somewhere else. made a good amount of cash there in Las Vegas with the Raiders. But the Gino Smith era in Las Vegas ends as he is released by the Raiders earlier today. 11 years? How long has he been in the league? He's been in the league a long time. Yeah.

Listen, he got a comeback player of the year. He was able to make a Pro Bowl in, I believe, 23, 22, 22, 23, 23. He has done well for himself as a player. A lot of players who enter the NFL, enter the league and play for a dysfunctional organization. It's very rare that you see them have great careers. In fact, most of them disappear and you never hear of them. They go to football purgatory or find themselves in the abyss. of a failing NFL career.

I'll raise my hand. I'm one of them. So when you look at what Gino Smith was able to do in resurrecting his career, getting to Seattle, and being a part of the resurgence of and the setup of where the Seattle Seahawks would eventually get to a year removed from him

and going and winning a Super Bowl, I don't think he has anything to be ashamed of. And when you look at the success they were able to have, geez, what they were able to do in Seattle together, him and Pete Carroll, again, Pete Carroll had a horrible season as a head coach. Gino Smith did not have a great year as a QB. Both are now gone from the team. And I would say, again,

what's next for Gino Smith? Is it a rap? Is it go somewhere and be a backup? Does he still have an opportunity to be a starter in this league? It's potentially maybe through injury. I don't think he goes to another team as the starter of the team. You're not going into the marketplace, even as poor of a free agency class as this is this year.

You're not going into the marketplace as being sought after as a starting quarterback. back. I would assume that again. I mean, it's just me and you today. Maybe it's safe for me to assume and not get reprimanded for assuming with my opinion that that would be what it is. Okay. Now, I mean, what do you think? What do you think? I mean, are you looking at him as a starter on a free action market? No, no, definitely not. But if you're Gino Smith, I mean, you know, maybe not the worst experience in the world. Just, I mean, listen, the team was awful. I mean,

just a dreadful, dreadful team to watch. But, you know, he got a two-year $75 million extension when he got there. So the Raiders, you know, he made some good money, as I mentioned, and he's going to be out there. And he's at least to this point in his career, a solid veteran backup who, man, those guys in the NFL, you can cash checks for years. Sure. And he's not, let's be clear. He is not the focal point blame of the Raiders. and their lack of success.

No, it's a real group effort. You gave the examples of the coaching staffs and the people have come through. There's also a litany of players that have also come through there that could have made them a better team. Again, I say this on our show. You listen to pros and cup of Joe

when you get the opportunity to us a little early, but it on the East Coast, it's right on time for you getting into work. I always say you cannot expect talent to outperform dysfunction. Can't happen. Some people say, like, some people have stated and given examples of, okay, this was a dysfunctional team.

They were able to win. I do not subscribe to the fact or idea that talent can outperform dysfunction. And the Las Vegas Raiders are one of the best examples of that statement. It's why you never hear of a golfer who grew up poor. You know what golfers growing up poor? You know, they've been in country clubs their whole life, you know, less honest stability, a lot of money. You know, I mean, there's two different golfers. There's those guys and then there's like me and my son who we just do mini putt.

But John, y'all aren't poor. So there's that. Yeah, well. Your son isn't growing up poor. Well, I mean, it depends. It depends. It depends. It depends.

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Well, no, I will. There's a lawnmower in the back right now. I can't bring it out here. So with that being said. Driving more? Stupid. Stupid. Is the blade on there still?

That's a solid joke that before people got. But with that being said, there was an update to the Raiders' planet quarterback. because it clearly doesn't involve Gino Smith, who's going to be released, as we mentioned. Diana Rossini of the Athletic reports that if the Raiders continue to lean toward drafting Fernando Mendoza with the number one pick at April's draft, their preference is to not start him immediately.

Look for Vegas to bring in a veteran quarterback and free agency. And who would that be? That would be better than Gino Smith. Well, probably cheaper than Gino Smith, I would say. I don't, Garoppolo, but maybe he's, that might be a little too expensive.

I don't, I mean, look, they can go down this road. Is that, is that me? Look, I'm just bringing, like, I don't know, I'm just throwing names out there. Really? That's what we're going? Well, think about it this way. If they're saying we're not starting Fernando. Do you want Geropolo in Vegas? I don't know.

He's too good looking. Well, I mean, he's been there before. Exactly. Yeah, he's probably got. He's still too good looking. He's probably got some tabs to pay. Maybe his habits are still bad habits. You got to develop.

break bad habit is developed. But if there's a place to go to to kind of blend in, that's the spot if you're going to take a certain somebody out. Because you're going to lose anyway. But so you might as well have other things to do while you're there. So I wonder this. If their if their preferences, we don't want Fernando Mendoza starting right away, which is kind of wild considering he'll be the number one pick. If that's the case, then this really is a full-blown, tear-down build-up.

This is a rebuild. So if that's the case. Am I missing something here? If you're going to draft Fernando Mandoza number one overall, your team stinks. You just got rid of the quarterback. You just got rid of the coaching staff. You just added new ownership.

You got the new ownership of Juggernaut and Tom Brady. His guy is running things personnel-wise there. Why would you not start your number one overall? all draft pick at quarterback day one. So what they're saying is... Give me some clarity on. And so... Why would your plan not you're preserving him for when?

And for what? And that's why my thought on it goes, all right, if this is the case and you're acknowledging this is a full-blown rebuild. Then save that man's career and draft somebody else. Let somebody else... Let somebody else have the benefit of getting it. So what I'm saying is if this is the case and you're acknowledging... acknowledging this is a full-blown rebuild.

Why are you haggling over dealing Max Crosby? Like, what's the point? If you're taking this approach and you're acknowledging... Get as much value as you can get. Yeah, and maybe you don't get what you would get from Micah Parsons, which you shouldn't

because he's 29 and coming off an injury. If it's a one and a mid-round pick and maybe a player somebody wants to part with, take the deal and move on, man. Like, if this is the approach, you're going to be awful. you're going to suck for a year at least again. If that's the case, what's with this while we really want,

I get you want to play it out in the media and kind of create a market for him, but the idea that they would want to bring him back and hope that he's a part of all this, why would Max Crosby want to be a part of all this? Like this is the quarterback supposed to provide hope, and you're telling me we're going to go get a veteran, and we're going to let him sit and watch as a number one pick. Let's first start with what you initially said, and then we'll move from there.

You said it this initiates or this spells out rebuild. You have to lose the RE in this. There's no, what are you rebuilding? You have to build this. This organization has been broken and dysfunctional for so long. You're not rebuilding from anything. You have to start over. Foundationally speaking, build your foundation.

build your your framework onto that foundation, then finish building out, you know, the interior, the exterior. Are you going stucco? Are you going brick? I don't know. I mean, they got there in Vegas. They built quick out there. If they were the Palisades Raiders, no shot.

Well, I'll say this. If you build too quickly, it might be broken. It might not be what you needed to be. Sometimes it takes time. Now, again, now moving to, the next topic of it. It does take time to build something. If you're building something,

why would I not put my number one overall draft pick in there to get meaningful reps, to get meaningful experience as the starting quarterback that we're hoping to be the franchise guy? Please don't give me the excuse because we don't

want to ruin him. Because the bottom line is that is year two going to be the perfect time to put him in? is year three, the perfect time to put him in, and give me the reasoning why. You're going to magically get better in year one of his tenure, of his rookie contract.

You're going to be that much better dramatically with him on the bench in year two. And not to mention, you're setting him up for all kinds of scrutiny and bust conversation. If you're a number one draft pick, you're being drafted to play right away. Yes. If you're a top draft pick, you're being drafted to play right away. So if you're not putting him in, then you're saying he's not good enough to play day one.

If you're saying he's not good enough to play day one, then the media is going to jump all on that and put that out there. And then the fan base are going to jump on that and it's going to be all out there. Let's go live to our I have a thought on Fernando Mendoza walking the streets of Las Vegas insider grade towey for the latest. I do have a thought. And Lamar, you just nailed it because what was the time? Troy Eichmann's record, his rookie year in Dallas. Don't remember. 0 and 11.

Wow. You know what Peyton Manning's record was, and Andy his first year? He struggled. Three and 13. Yeah, I remember. So guess what? The Raiders are probably going to be very similar. But if you have the guy that you want and he's the franchise quarterback, you take him in there.

You worry about next year or next year. That's correct. Caleb Williams. Like you do this. And also, if there's going to be growing pains, I'd rather get him out of the way early. And look, worst case scenario, he's not good. And you know. Yes.

Like, what are you going to waste two, three years time to find out? Now we know. And it might be you that ruined them. But so what? You still found out that, yes, we're still consistently ruining people's careers. Hey, moving on. It's like, our plan is we're going to draft Mendoza 1. We're going to sit him and let Charlie Whitehurst start the entire year.

Talk about redefining the black hole as a Raiders player and a fan. Plus, I'd also say this for somebody who, seems I don't know if naive is the right word but to the real world. He's sneaky. You think so? It's sneaky.

I don't know that I would want him with some extra time on his hands cruising the streets of Las Vegas. I mean, by your parents, by appearance, and you're right. By your parents, he comes across as even more I don't know.

I mean, innocent than our boy from Florida. I would. He's like, like, who's our guy? Come on. What guy from Florida? We're never going to lose ever again after this game.

Oh, Tebow? There you go. Yeah. He comes across as more innocent as Timmy. Yeah, I guess Tebow is a meathead too. There's something there. There's something there.

Yeah. You don't get that something there with Fernando Mendoza. I think if you let him sit and he's not getting ready for the next game, you know, next thing you know, he's, you know, with carrot top and they've got a coffee table full of, you know, Ajax. And they're trying to figure out what to do with this stuff. I just, I don't know, man.

You got to play them. If you're not, if you're not planning on playing them, you got, then don't draft them. You got to play them. Yeah. Bottom one. Don't even take that back. It is the here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Erington, Jonas Knox. In for Colin.

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I think it's added another level of excitement for baseball. My only little issue is worrying about guys getting hurt. Like Jeremy Panyi got hurt broke his finger this week for me. That stinks. But how are we feeling about it? Well, you remember Edwin Diaz got hurt celebrating. Yeah. So there was.

Exactly. Yeah. Celebrating. And the Mets lost him. the year. So yeah, I mean, there's always you run the risk of that. I also wonder, you know, how many of these players from like Chinese Taipei are you going to see on a little league team coming up here in a couple of years ago, too. They'll sneak them in. There was a classic that took place in the Dominican Republic where Penn State had a dramatic comeback victory over Indiana

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There's a youthfulness to him, you know, an energy. You get to the end and you're like, holy, this guy's greatest hits are like insane. And LeBron's greatest hits, I mean, it just keeps adding to him. He just plays and plays and plays and the greatest hits, he's got a hell of a catalog. So many records for LeBron, regular season, playoffs, All-Star Game, selection. and things like that. But it feels like when he, we're kind of numb.

Was that coherent? Huh? What? Are we going to just breeze over that? Like me? What? No, I'm just saying like, did we not listen to what JJ Redick just said

and how it absolutely made very little. We're ready out of time here, LeVar. I'm trying to get out of song. Come on, let's go. A lot of energy from JJ Redick there. A lot of energy. But like LeBron, he breaks so many records. Are we just numb to his greatness at this point?

People will not recognize an, and acknowledge how great he is until he's long gone. And he goes, yeah, the guy was pretty good. I mean, he was kind of a pain in the ass to cover for a lot of people. And, you know, he did things differently and moved around. And, you know, maybe got players traded and whatnot. There's a lot that people can criticize his durability and his production unmatched. Completely unmatched.

I'm still trying to understand what JJ. We may have to bring this bite back, John, this next hour. So I can process a little bit more like, like, like, I am. I've heard Bruce Springsteen songs. I've even heard how he composed the music. Like, I just didn't understand, like, from beginning to end. I was a bit confused. Sorry.

So you never apologize. You never have to apologize for anything on this show, okay? Listen, you're filling in. You're doing God's work today. All right, God's work. He's a Springsteen guy, man. Yeah, whatever. Nothing wrong with that.

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