The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - John Harbaugh will be just fine, head coach openings in the NFL

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

Colin breaks down the John Harbaugh firing in Baltimore, why he will be just fine going forward, and explains why the Packers have been the biggest beneficiary from the new playoff format He then gives out his head coaching tiers for the current openings around the NFLSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To Fox Sports Radio. Oh, we got a good one today. It is a Wednesday. we are live. We are in Los Angeles. It's the hurt. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. So I got off the air yesterday. And one of the most celebrated coaches in the NFL, certainly the most celebrated coaching family in the NFL, John Harbaugh, after 18 years, is now out in Baltimore. And just to give you some sense,

about how long 18 years is. 18 years ago, Philip Rivers of the San Diego Chargers was beating Vince Young in a playoff game. So, that's a long time ago. Listen, Baltimore is complicated. Lamar Jackson is probably in a singular city the most worshipped quarterback in the league.

Maybe not Mahomes in Kansas City, but close. He's 29, and he's clearly this year, not the same quarterback. And historically, he's gotten tight in the playoffs. Lamar in the playoffs is 3 and 5 with an 84 passer rating. And this year, and those were in the years he was in his athletic prime. This year he did not look like the same. He also carries a massive cap hit next year, $74 million.

And in the AFC, quarterbacks like Drake May cap hit less than $10 million. Bo Nix cap hit less than $5 million. So a lot of your adversaries, the young guys, you'll be facing the Drake Mays, the Bo Nix, they can stack their rosters. And hyper-athletic quarterbacks age quickly. Do you know the last year Cam Newton was a pro-bowler? He was 26.

26. Lamar is 29, and this year, you watch what I watch. He didn't look the same. Yet these old pocket guys, Aaron Rogers, 42 years old, carrying that offense to the playoffs. Tom Brady, mid-40s winning a Super Bowl.

Matt Stafford's 37 years old, probably going to win the football. the MVP. So that's the downside to being a guy that makes a lot of noise and moves the chains with athletic ability. But Lamar is so beloved in Baltimore, he's going to leave when he wants to leave. And I bet you, I can see John Harbaugh, apparently it was a very long meeting with Steve Bashati. John Harbaugh probably said, you do realize I was eight and four in the playoffs with the Super Bowl pre-Lamar. I'm three and six with Lamar. Everything can't be about Lamar. He's 29. He wasn't the same quarterback.

He's missed a season full of games with injuries. But yet Baltimore and Steve Boshadhi says he's still a top 10 quarterback. I mean, our merchandise, our ticket sales, we win 10 plus games almost every year. So it's a complicated story. But RG3 was on our show earlier this week. He played in that locker room,

and it's Lamar's locker room, not the coach's locker room. I think Baltimore Ravens fans would burn the city to the ground if the Ravens traded Lamar Jackson. And I mean that wholeheartedly. If Lamar Jackson had lost the locker room, this would be a real conversation. But I've got great relationships in that locker room still to this day.

They love Lamar. And they should. Two things will be true. The Ravens, and they'll build around Lamar, are well run, they draft and develop, and they're going to win 10 plus games going forward. Who knows? Wouldn't it be funny if they landed Kevin Stefansky?

Cleveland fires him, Baltimore hires him, and he owns the Browns for the next eight years. Baltimore is going to win a bunch of games. Arguably, the best run organization in football, they'll be fine. And John Harbaugh, well, Jim got run out of San Francisco, Andy Reid got run out of Philadelphia, and John Harbaugh, 18 years. CEOs don't last 18 years at a company. Right? So he'll go somewhere and do just fine.

Atlanta would be interesting. Maybe Cam Ward, Tennessee. What about the New York Giants? Jackson Dart. But John Harbaugh is really, really good. And Lamar Jackson is still really, really good. And I think it came down to several meetings, reportedly, long, long meetings. And I think at some point, John Harbaugh probably said, you know, I was eight and four

pre-Lamar. I'm three and six with him. We've got to start having discussions. He's missing games. He's not the same guy. And Lamar's still great. but that city and that locker room and that organization, it's all about Lamar. And at some point, John Harbaugh may have said, how many years are we going to go on this?

I mean, you've seen them in the playoffs. I'm projecting here, I'm guessing, but I can understand if there was pushback where the pushback would come from. And I think that's one of those situations. I always say this, like your athletes, don't fall in love with them. them. Don't worship them. Love your kids. Love your wife or husband. Don't love your athlete. Fall in like with them. But in Baltimore, I think Lamar's got so much juice and so much power. He's still a terrific player. A terrific player. The kickers, why they're not in the playoffs, it's not Lamar Jackson. But these were long meetings. Probably didn't start with the idea that Harbaugh wouldn't

work. But I think Harbaugh probably pushed back on some things that said, you know, I want a lot of games pre-Lamar. And, you know, Ravens listen to their players. It's Lamar's locker room. LaVar's going to win a bunch of games. Ravens are still going to be really, really good, and Harbaugh is going to be just fine. So I do want to talk about the Packers and the Bears. So all this game is about, I can't wait for this.

It's all about the Bears. It's all about Ben Johnson. It's all about Caleb Williams. It's all about Chicago. finally finding the quarterback. They're at home. I mean, literally, when the Packers were in a playoff game, usually they're the one that's talked about.

They're like, I mean, they're like the opening act. Like, they're the appetizer. The entree is the Chicago Bears. And we know Green Bay's well run, but Nick Wright was on the show yesterday and made an interesting point about the Packers head coach, Matt LaFleur. For a guy who is just,

universally respected is this really good coach. It is interesting to me that his final year with Rogers, they were playing in week 18, that if they won, they would be the seventh seed. Then his first year with love, they were the seventh seed. And then last year, his second year with love, they were the seventh seed. And this year, the Packers find themselves as the seven seed. Nobody has benefited more from NFL playoff expansion than the Matt LaFleur Green Bay Packers. So four years in a row, actually, they make the playoffs.

If the playoff expansion didn't happen, they would not make the playoffs. And I think I've always looked at Green Bay differently. They have challenges like the Milwaukee Brewers doing baseball now competing against the Dodgers or Wisconsin football has competing against Ohio State and Michigan. They don't get the same players. I think Green Bay's got challenges. By the way, third straight year, Green Bay. was the youngest team in the league. Why?

It's not a place free agents clamor for. They often have to make a big trade and overpay. They overpaid for an offensive lineman this year. It's the smallest city. They don't have an owner. Aaron Rogers is still trying to sell his house in Green Bay. Matt Stafford could sell his place on the Strand in 15 minutes.

So Green Bay is one of those cities that I've always looked at them. I always said if Wisconsin gets to a Rose Bowl, that's Ohio State winning the national championship. Milwaukee gets to a, you know, if they beat the Dodgers in the postseason, that is like a World Series. They're not going to beat another team and another team. And I look at Green Bay, I think they've been remarkably successful considering they have to largely, I read something this morning that they had signed for the, was it, the third fewest year?

Yeah, three straight seasons, the fewest free agent signings, Green Bay Packers. Third straight year, youngest team. I mean, when they made the Micah deal, what was our reaction to that? Wait, what? Packers don't do that. That's what Philadelphia does. That's what the Rams do. You look around.

You could see a host of teams doing the Micah Parsons deal. We were all shocked that Green Bay did it. So I just think differently about Green Bay. Farvin Rogers and Jordan Love, it's been like 35 some years, it feels like, of having elite quarterbacks. And they got two trophies. And I think, like if the Brewers won a World Series,

if I told you they're going to win a World Series, you would be kind of surprised. And the reason you would be surprised is, well, they just don't have the money. I mean, the Cubs come out, and it's like the Brewers had these, you know, a great manager, and then all of a sudden he's in Chicago right down the road. It's kind of what they deal with.

So I think Lefleur is a really good coach. But I do think there are challenges for Green Bay. That's why I think in North American sports history, there's an argument. Green Bay has been the best run NFL franchise the last 35 years. I didn't say most production in terms of trophies, best run. And they've done it without an owner. It's not attractive to most free agents. Aaron Roger still is trying to sell his house.

Their game day revenues good, but is it Philadelphia? Is it the Rams at SoFi? Is it the New York Giants, the 49ers, even the Bears? So I think Lefleur's great, but I kind of bake in the fact there are some obstacles. It's not as easy as everybody thinks. I mean, just think of Green Bay. Go back to the dry years in Green Bay. If you throw Bart Starr in and then Fav.

and then Aaron Rogers and then Jordan Love yeah go into that space when they didn't hit on quarterbacks I mean they were they I remember those years they weren't getting on television right so I think LaFleur is really really good

but you I always kind of bake in some disadvantages for the Packers and there you go third straight year fewest free agent signings staff said this morning J Mack we have some things happening in this in this world of college football so we have Todd McShan one hour his mock draft is fascinating J-Mack will tell you about this around the corner so Ty Simpson yeah has said

I'm going to go to the NFL and what's going to be fascinating is we talked about this yesterday so Mendoza's going one if Dante Moore doesn't come out then Ty Simpson is viewed as the second best quarterback and you and I were arguing about this before the show I said Well, like seven teams need a quarterback. If there's one position you could reach on, it's probably quarterback. I think he's going to end up going in the first round, and I think he's a second or third round talent. That might be generous.

We'll see. I would hate the Jets to take him it, too. If you go top 10, you're a franchise savior. There's a ton of pressure. I'll give you an example. We've seen this. You're not going to deliver. I'll give you an example.

Cincinnati Bengals. Burles had three major surgeries. Simpson, first round? Well, my take is, Burroughs hurt again. You're going to go back to the backup well? But with a healthy Burrow, they're very, very good in a playoff team. Oh, they couldn't beat Cleveland at the end of the season.

Let's not, let's... Week 18 shenanigans. I mean, I'm just saying if they could draft a defensive player, offensive lineman, there's a lot of stuff they could do. Ty Simpson doesn't help you. That basically says to Joe Burrow, like, that's what the stuff that the Packers were doing to Aaron Rogers. Yeah, it worked out okay. Packers got another quarterback here.

I just heard you guys hammering the floor. I'm not, no, no, no, no, you didn't listen. Nick Wright was hammering, LaFleur. Yeah, I said, within context, I think LaFleur is excellent, but LaFleur has to deal with obstacles that McVeigh doesn't, Shanahan doesn't. Even Ben Johnson doesn't. Nick Siriani doesn't. So, I mean, my, Ty Simpson, somebody's going to overdraft him.

Should we make it interesting? I say no way he goes top ten. No way. No shot. I don't care what he does at the Combine, you know, crush his interviews. No way. You think he's going top 10? Now, Todd McShay's on.

Do I think he's a top 10? Remember when the Steelers, the Steelers went and got Kenny Pickett? Yeah, how'd that work out for that? No, no, no. I talked to a Super Bowl-winning GM, and before the draft, and he said, Kenny Pickett's a mid-third round pick.

Pittsburgh needed a quarterback. By the way, you don't think Pittsburgh now drafting in low first round? 42-year-old Aaron Rogers? That makes some sense. Or the Rams, if they have the last pick in the first round, because they have the early pick, they'll go get a tackle. Rams have the last pick in the first round. They also have a second, a third, two-fifths, a six, two-sevenths. You don't think the Rams would go, listen, we got our tackle.

And they have the Falcons pick as well. So I'm okay with the Rams. I could see Pittsburgh. I could see the Rams. Ravens? No, Ravens won't. It's Lamar's town. I could also, Ty Simpson is the opposite of Lamar.

He's strictly pocket. He was the opposite of Flacco. By the way, Lamar went like the end of the first round. That's what we're talking about. He's like a two-time athlete. He was a unique transformational athlete. He did things that we'd never seen. Ty Simpson's a pocket quarterback.

So I'm looking at all these teams. Okay, Mendoza goes to the Raiders. If Ty Simpson is the second highest-graded quarterback, my guess is what a lot of these teams would do is trade down to the 12, 13, 14, get another pick and then reach for him. Yeah. So Cardinals could draft a quarterback, but probably unlikely, right? We'll see what the new and the new coach is.

Okay, you're Arizona at three, and you can trade down to eight and get a second round pick. I would rather take an offensive lineman or a defensive line, and then get Malik Willis. Okay, then you're eight in Arizona. But you trade down again to 11. You could probably still get Ty Simpson potentially. That's what I would do. If I was all these Jets, Cardinals, Titans, Browns, commanders, commanders have a quarterback.

The Titans have Cam Ward. Saints think they have one too, so they won't take a quarterback. They've got their guy, Tyler Shuck. Well, we'll see. Franchise players. Well, I mean, listen, I will say the last six weeks. Six weeks, hey, lock it up. Six weeks.

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12 of the 14 playoff quarterbacks were drafted in the first round. There's two exceptions. Brock Purdy and Jalen Hertz. And they will meet this weekend in the Bizarro Bowl. Both have been massively elevated. This is how they've made the playoffs. Not because they're elite talents. They've been elevated by other forces.

Take Brock Purdy. He lands Kyle Shanahan who made Matt Schaubb a pro bowler, Matt Ryan the MVP and got Jimmy Garoppolo to the Super Bowl. Mack Jones' career was over. He started this year for San Francisco. He had a 97 passer rating completed 70% of his throws, 5 and 3. He's not doing that anywhere else in the league, including with McVeigh. Kyle Shanahan is the quarterback whisper.

Brock Purdy had 33 picks in college. That's why he dipped. He was totally reckless. And yet today, he has the highest passer rating in NFL history, higher than Tom Brady. It's Shanahan. It doesn't mean he doesn't have talent, but it's not just the quarterback in this league. You can, if you get a Kyle Shanahan, who has the best play sheet in the league, be elevated significantly. Take Jalen Hertz.

He got benched in college. Greg Kosell, who looks at film on the show with Tom Brady tomorrow, acknowledges he can't see over the middle of the field all the time. He's 5-10-ish. The Eagles actually win more the fewer times Jalen Hertz throws, but he's got the best GM in the league. So Brock Purdy's got the best choreographed offense in the league to elevate him. Doesn't mean he doesn't have talent.

And Hertz has the best trade manipulative. later and draft picker arguably in the NFL. But let's not kid ourselves. Twelve of the fourteen teams in the league have a first-round quarterback. So there are some rare examples, and Purdy and Jalen Hertz and the Bizarro Bowl on Fox are examples that if you're good, not special historically, you get a Shanahan, you get a Howie Roseman. Yeah. You can win a lot of games.

I can't wait for it. I think it's going to be spectacular. There's an AFC executive said this week to Mike Sando, think San Francisco is going to win because they have less dysfunction. They do have more injuries, less dysfunction. And here's Nick Seriani on the matchup. The amount of big games we play on a yearly basis in our regular seasons are huge. Jalen does a great job of, you know, continuing to raise his level of play.

And so, yeah, he has a ton of experience. And the quarterback we're playing has a lot of experience, too, in the playoffs. A lot of respect to them. I think this is a really hard game to figure out. My rule is, though, is if you're favored by four to five, just take the favored team. Vegas would rather put you at three or seven. So probably Philadelphia is probably the bet. but San Francisco can be very good, very good early.

That's really important. Buffalo falls behind a lot. I don't like going on the road to Jacksonville, trailing, getting the crowd ramped up. San Francisco's the opposite. Would you be shocked if San Francisco came down and took a 10-0-0 lead eight minutes into the game? I would not. So it's a fascinating game where if anybody can go to Philadelphia and win as a four-to-five-five-point underdog, San Francisco is that team.

Looks like Trent Williams, George Kittle, Ricky Piersall, Christiane McCaffrey, Jennings are all going to play. Fascinating matchup. Jay Mack with the news. All right, let's start with this Ty Simpson news. He's leaving Alabama after one year as a starter. That should be a red flag. Listen, he is a very talented college quarterback.

Moves exceptionally well in the pocket. Good numbers, 3,500 yards, 28 touchdowns. where he goes in the NFL draft is fascinating. And I'm with you. If he goes to a McVeigh, a team where the front office is stable, you don't have to worry about it. It's fine, yeah. They can whiff.

Memorably, Shanahan whiffed on Trey Lance. Shanahan and Lynch are fine. They have a great culture. They know how to team build. I'm just telling you, any of these Jets Cardinals, they go out Ty Simpson top 10, it's going to be a disaster. But again, I do think there's a play here. And it's a risk.

But if I was Arizona and said, listen, he's not the number three player. And Arizona's mostly, you know this, Arizona offensively's got dudes. It's the defense. And you're Arizona and you're like, we're going to go to from three to eight and get a third and a fourth. Then at eight, I'm like, okay, now at least I'm reaching. But if he grades out to be the 19th to the 20th best player, Arizona needs both a quarterback and players. I think the same thing for the Jets. You can't pick him at two.

Yeah. So let's drill down on Arizona. So the coach got fired. Right. The GM is still there. The media was grilling him. I don't know if you saw this. Hey, you've never drafted an all pro.

Well, how do you still have your job? Basically to the GM. The new coach is going to come and meet with the GM. And he's going to be like, what's your plan at quarterback? And what if he says, I love Ty Simpson and three? That's a red flag. John Harbaugh's not going there. Like I...

Well, Harbaugh's too good of a candidate to consider Arizona. Yeah, I think the New York Giants is a slam dunk. Yeah, I mean, they're just... The Harbaas are not going to consider seven, they're not going to Cleveland. But even like if you're Kevin Stefansky, are you, like I agree with you. The running backs are good in Arizona. They were injured.

Marvin Harrison, Michael Wilson, McBride. There's a reason when Steve Kine was the GM, he took a swing on Bruce Arias. And they had great success. In fact, 18 years ago today, we talked about Harbaugh's 18. 18 years ago, today wasn't Arizona in Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl? Maybe. That might be right. Yeah.

So, you know, so, but the point being is, Arizona is one of those places. And I think the jets have become this. that elite candidates are not going to consider it. 100% agree. So people are saying, well, the Saints got Tyler shook. They like him. He's the second round pick.

You want to tell me Ty Simpson's the second round pick? Great. I love that. But again, I'm with you. I don't think you can entertain him going that high. What is he? Six, one and a half? Two-fifteen.

I've been consistent on this. You and I talk about quarterbacks all the time. The one thing I look for to be a first-round quarterback, you've got to have a trait that I go, wow. So you and I mostly agree on quarterbacks. We disagreed on Kyler Murray. And my take was he was a more elusive Russell Wilson. So my take was, okay, he's got a trait.

Now, I didn't like the studying thing, the video game thing, the size. But he threw the prettiest ball. So I was always higher on Kyler Murray. You've got to give me, and this is why I criticized Kenny Pickett. There's got to be something as a first round quarterback. I go, wow. I mean, you look at Mendoza, his accuracy, his size, bang, bang, A, A. So there's nothing with Ty Simpson.

His arm is okay. It's fine. It's NFL arm. His accuracy's good. It's not Mendoza good. His size, average, athletic ability, average. There's no first round trait to me. So Jordan Love fell to what?

Late teens, early 20s. But Jordan Love has NFL size 6'4. And he's a big arm. Big arm. And he's also a super athlete. So Jordan Love checked three trait boxes. But like Ty Simpson in that range I'm okay with, I just, again, I'm way out on him, top eight. You're going to lose your job.

You and I can agree on this. He will be overdrafted. I don't know. I don't think he's going top ten. Well, no, no, no. No, no. I think that's a reasonable take. But I think you get to late first.

Eight teams need a quarterback. And then you lock him up for the five years because if you get him in the first round, I am convinced the Rams if they had the last pick in the first round would be, okay, we got our left tackle. We'll get our corner we need in the second. We'll get a receiver in the third. Devante is getting older. Like I can see a team. saying we're going to take him.

And you don't know, Safford could win the Super Bowl and walk away. Right, you could be done. Yeah. So I don't mind that. All right, let's move on. Interesting here, Colin. Bill Belichick obviously struggled in North Carolina in his initial year. But guess what?

There are seven NFL job openings. And as we've talked about, not a lot of banger candidates. So obviously, Belichick's name is going to come up. He was asked about it on a podcast. Nothing's changed. Yeah. I'm where I was a month ago. I'm here in North Carolina.

I really appreciate. the love and support that we've gotten from the community down here, from the school, from Chancellor Roberts, the ADs, Bubba Cunningham, Steve Newmark, work with Mike Lombardi and our staff here. We're building a good program. And, you know, I'm excited about the direction we're headed in. I actually, I think that's kind of cool. I like the fact that he's like, because he's, you know, Pete Carroll being older,

being hired and bombing out, that doesn't help him. People look at that and, you know how that works. when McVeigh got hired and won, everybody wanted the next McVeigh. When Pete gets hired older and bombs, people go, well, old guy, can't do the old guy. So I like the fact. Last year it was very apparent. They didn't have any players. Now it's a second year.

The NIL money is pretty good. They did get better at some point during the year. They looked like they were kind of cleaning some stuff up. But I don't think he's a candidate. Let me ask you, is there a team? Of those seven openings, where the fit could work with Belichick. We'll go through him. Browns, I don't think that's happening again, right?

He was in Cleveland 30-odd-year. He's not going there. Cardinals? Is there any world where Bill Belichick works in everything? I will tell you the one job that makes sense. You're going to laugh at me. Not the New York Giants. No.

Alkins? What's the one job where he doesn't have to really worry about the offense because he has a superstar quarterback? Oh, Baltimore Ravens? New England being the primary rival. Oh, the Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen takes care of the offense. Bill, build the culture, and fix the defense.

Because Bill was actually not terrible at drafting defense. And he gets to go get revenge on the table. He can't draft skill players to save his life so you can go buy a receiver. They got a back and left tackle Josh Allen. Go fix the deal. defense, build the culture. That's the one I look at night. And by the way, Bill's like, oh, yeah, little payback to old Braves and Robert Kraft.

I don't hate that. Now, he says what he has to say in this interview. I don't want Bill going anywhere that doesn't have a quarterback. I think that he has to rebuild the offense. There's no proof that he, that's not his space. I think after that Bill's game, things are going to ramp up. Bill's win, McDermott, very likely safe. And, you know, we can move on.

but if they happen to lose to the Jags. You understand Gantling. Belichick and Buffalo. Can you explain Jacksonville being a home dog? And they were the better team all year. A couple of these lines don't make sense. That does not make. I don't, I would have guessed the line.

Jacksonville minus four, three and a half. I think it's respect for Josh Allen. It has to be. It has to be. I don't get that line at all. All right, final story. Let's go to the NBA where LeBron and Luca both drop 30 on the Pelicans. Hey, look at Luca going right at Zion.

Now you see me, now you don't splash. Oh, this was a great game. LeBron turned back the clock. 30, I believe he had 38 and 8. Excellent game. Here's what he had to say when talking about the Lakers offense. Listen closely, folks. It's not an issue for me to be able to do things that I don't know.

I just don't think people watch basketball. Luca don't need to bend this game. Luca is not 20. How is it? 27? He's our 27-year-old franchise for this ball. He'll need to bend this game. It's up to us to bend our game around him and figure it out.

What do you make of that? Well, I don't know if he's echoing what JJ Reddick's telling the team or if this is counter to Reddick. I like what I'm hearing from LeBron. It was a good win last night. They were down in the third quarter. Why are you smirking, huh? They beat their pelicans, and you want to lie?

and just brush it off as it's nothing. I'm not laughing. I think the franchise, this is a, I think they're going for the big splash in the offseason. I think this is what the Lakers are. Good offense. You're going to have to, you know, narrow that down.

Big splash. Is that honest? I will say the Lakers are going to make a massive postseason move. A earth-shattering Dodgers level move. What did the Dodgers do? Oh, Tone. and Freddie Freeman, Mookie Bats,

Dodgers, the great Asian stars. Dodgers have gone big. And then they've let, like, good players, like Trey Turner, good player, Sager, good player. They go great. It's going to be a big, we know what the Dodgers owners do.

They let Manny Machado walk. They let Cody Bellinger walk. They let Trey Turner walk. They go find the best. blank. There's going to be a massive, massive Laker move. You didn't sell your property out here in L.A. did? You got to come back if the Lakers get honest. Come on, bro. There are a lot of people. This is just a let it play out. Let's just, you know, we'll get to the playoffs with the offense. It'll be a fun, luke year. Don't expect anything

big at the trade deadline. I'll just say that. Don't expect anything at the trade deadline. They're going to play this out. Lakers Spurs tonight Wemby versus Luca, two of the best players in the league. LeBron, TBD, because he doesn't know if he could do back-to-backs at 41 years. There's your future. He's not the future. He's the present.

Live in the present, man. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. We got good stuff. College football playoffs starts tomorrow. I'm so jacked up for it.

I mean, we went through a 10-year stretch. It was like Georgia, Bama, Clemson, Indiana, Miami, Ole Miss, Oregon. Do you know the last, so Indiana is 14 and O. Do you know the last team to go 16 and O in college football? Yale. 1894. Yale.

So, you folks, we're looking at history with India. Yeah. It's the Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of The Hurt weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with the name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was...

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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Tonight, a college hoops double-headed tips off at 7 Eastern with a classic Big East rivalry as Xavier takes on Marquette. Then top-ranked Arizona looks to fend off K-state all right here on FS1. One of my mantras, I believe, and I tell anybody who will listen, is that don't chase money in life. Chase really good management. There's a sea of money if you're talented and work hard. There's a finite amount of really good management.

And I feel the same way about coaching. When I see all these people out there, oh, it's rigged, the refs, your coaches aren't good enough. Let me give you an example. The Indiana Hoosiers fumbled on the 18th play of this season. The 18th play, game one. They have not fumbled since on special. teams. They lead the entire college football in fewest fumbles, fewest turnovers, fewest drop passes, second fewest penalty yards. They have not had an errant snap all

season. The last two years, they've had the best red zone offense and the best third down offense, efficiency. It's not the refs. Nobody's conspired to eliminate your team from the playoffs in college or pro. Your team isn't well coached. By the way, two most penalized NFL teams, Titans and the Dallas Cowboys. You really think the league wants the Cowboys

to be rudderless? Do you really think the NFL says, okay, here's the three teams that are going to disappoint every year. New York Giants, New York Jets, and the Cowboys. But we want to make sure Green Bay is really good. Green Bay is always really good. Buffalo

is excellent. Kurt Signetti's team is unbelievable. They don't get penalized. They don't fumble. They don't drop passes. No errant snaps. One fumble all year. It is an unbelievable team.

It is the best tackling team I've seen since Sabin's Alabama Crimson Tide. And if they beat in a row, Ohio State, they did in the Big Den championship. Bama and the Rose Bowl, they did. And Oregon in the semis, it is an all-time team. Mark Cuban this week wrote a massive check. Mark Cuban did not write the biggest check last year in the portal. Mark Cuban off the success wrote a check this week. Big, big check.

They're going nowhere. And they haven't done it with five-star recruits. He has turned blue-collar kids into blue-chip players. And here is Signetti on the matchup against Oregon. That's why it's important to have a blueprint and a plan. And this business is all about development, recruiting, and retention. You've got to have high standards, expectations, accountability throughout your entire organization. You've got to have the right people and your staff in the locker room.

When guys prepare correctly, that's their best chance to be successful. And when they become successful, they develop more confidence and belief, and it becomes sort of a snowball effect. Yeah, it is, it's just really remarkable. You can always tell a well-coached team. I remember when the Patriots, Belichick, was in his prime with Brady, they didn't fumble. They didn't get penalized. And everybody's like, oh, that's rigged. You want the most boring coach in NFL history to really run the league who hates the media and didn't like Goodell.

That's who the league wanted to win. This team is so well-coached, it jumps through the TV. They don't drop passes. They don't fumble. They don't get penalized. they don't have errant snaps. Coaching affects everything. And when you see bad coaching, you know where it starts?

Your team is loose. The Cowboys have been loose since like Parcells and Jimmy Johnson left. Didn't it feel like the Cowboys are always one of the most penalized teams in the league? Coaches affect that. That's not the refs. That's your coach. I saw this story.

This was weird. You know I'm pro NIA. and pro-transfer portal. But I think my kids should have cake, just not for breakfast. There's guidelines on everything. So, DeMond Williams, Jr., good quarterback University of Washington, signed with the team, I'm going to stay at Washington, sign the contract, and then said,

nah, I want to enter the portal. You've got to have rules with this stuff. Pro football. You can't sign contracts and say, well, the guy over on the other team signed a bigger contract, I'm going to put myself in free agency. You've got to have rules. DeMont Williams signed a contract.

And for the record, you know why he wants out? Because Texas Tech went and paid their quarterback $5 million. He looked at it and thought, well, what am I making, too? I want to go back in to the portal. Dude, you signed a contract. I, you know, you can't go. college football used to be the strictest parent. Now there's no parent.

They went from helicopter to home alone. There's no parents. The NCAA's got to step in here. You can't just let guys go willy-nilly. And the players can't win every time. In the NFL, sometimes the players win. But not all the time. Sometimes time, right now in the NFL,

Jordan Love makes more than Josh Allen. Timing. Trevor Lawrence makes more than Josh Allen. Timing. You know, I mean, Tom Brady was rarely. the highest paid quarterback in the league. Whoever signs the new contract for about six months is the highest paid quarterback,

then they're not for four years. So I don't think it's a coincidence that Texas Tech, who's got a lot of money, went and bought a quarterback from Cincinnati, and then this young guy at Washington says, I'll be here. Sorry, pal. Players can't win all the time. And I am completely pro-N-I-L,

but there's got to be some guardrails on this stuff. And whenever I hear, well, coaches leave all the time, They don't sign contracts and the next day say, well, I saw what the guy signed at Michigan. I want a new contract. They don't do that. But the NCAA is so toothless and weak and lacks the ability. I mean, they couldn't figure out the NIL was coming five years when everybody was talking about the NIL was coming. So at some point, you got to at some point have rules in college football.

We have rules in pro football with free agency. and moving. Got to have something. Contracts have to mean something. I mean, I'm not saying contracts don't, you know, some contracts are, you know, written and you know eventually they'll get rewritten. We see this all the time.

Lamar Jackson's cap hit for the Ravens next year, $74 million. They're going to tear it up and redo it and do more guaranteed money and lower it in a high 40s. But that's mutually agreed upon. Well, Washington's like, timeout. We're not letting you go. you can't just go because you want to go there's contracts okay j smack

so the the other story the big story yesterday and today is john harbaugh is now on the market so for those interest that john harbaugh's in the market at the top of next hour we'll give you so now there's seven teams looking for a coach we went from a very bad market like there's no coat we were saying this this week like who do you hire

now I've got John Harbaugh and now I've got Kevin Stefansky. Now let's say Jeff Halfley becomes your third best candidate well that's a pretty good candidate as a third or fourth best. Like right now Jeff Halfley is your fastball maybe not. Jeff Halfley is your fourth pitch.

Okay that's a pretty good candidate. You have them ahead of guys like Minter, Kingsbury, McCarthy? No, no, I'm just saying my take would be Harbaugh one, Stafansky 2. I think that's very clear. And then I think you get into the Mike McCarthy wins 12 games a year. like how many times. I think Jesse Mentor, but he's never been a head coach.

I think you get into a group at the third pitch that's pretty darn solid. Yeah. The Harbaugh one's interesting because he kind of can fit anywhere, but I think he'd only take a team that's kind of close, right? Wouldn't I argue this? Harbaugh's best fit is in some place with a broken culture. Because he's not going to be a play caller. Like, for instance, Stefansky, as a play caller, could go to Baltimore.

with Lamar, they don't need a culture guy. The culture's great. Baltimore's culture is unbelievable. They need somebody to get Lamar happy and right. But remember, we just talked about it. The teams that pay their quarterback the most, all of a sudden, they're not making the playoffs because you can't build around them. So does Stefanski look at the Lamar situation and be like, you guys got to clean up these books?

Oh, no, I think we need offensive linemen. I think Baltimore's like the Packers. When they have an opening, take it. It's so well run, you take it. So you would take, so you have that job is the best one. by far. Baltimore. Oh, I mean, top three owner, top five, top eight quarterback. We don't know quite.

Lamar had a weird year. Lamar's top seven, eight quarterback. We don't know exactly. He's 29. He was banged up. He's missed 17 starts. Like, we don't know exactly, but he's still very good. I think Baltimore's the job.

Then you and I can argue over the second job. I think both of us like the personnel in Atlanta offensively in a weak division. I'm starting to warm up to the New York Giants. There's some pieces in place there. They could have the second most talent in the division. But Baltimore doesn't need a culture setter. That's what the Chargers needed with Harbaugh. So Safansky can just get on the headset and get Lamar happy.

The Giants need a culture guy. That to me is Harbaugh. Perfect. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick.

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