The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 – Miami (FL) is Bad for College Football, the War on the NFL, Time to Dump Goff

Episode Date: January 1, 2026

FOX Sports Radio hosts Rob Parker and Kerry Rhodes are in for Colin, and the guys debate whether Miami (FL)’s upset win over Ohio State was actually bad for college football, discuss how college football can take back Saturdays in December from the NFL, and tell us if the Detroit Lions should explore dumping quarterback Jared Goff. Plus, Big Ten Network analyst Yogi Roth swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines around the College Football Playoff.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's up, my man? May he did a better job already. Carrie Rhodes and not Carrie Washington. No, I was a little shook the other night when we were doing the show. You know I know who you are. Yeah, I know. And, yes, the big show, the next three hours on the herd here. I got a lot of stuff to get involved in.

We also want to hear from you. It's a New Year's Day, a lot going on. We will throw out Rob G. Rob G is our producer. He, of course, produces the odd couple. USC Chris is engineer today, so we got the crew working on a holiday. And Rob G.

And Chris, what's happening? Happy New Year to you guys? Happy New Year. It is wonderful to be in the Year of Horse. Is that what it is? Year of the Horse. Year of the Horse. So Mr. Ed has made a comeback.

Is that what we're telling him? He's going to come in later in the year. He's not coming right in the beginning. He's going to get to get it. Don't spoil our hour three special guest. Okay. All right. I just wanted to make sure.

All right. Kerry, obviously, college football playoff, the big game last night. Yep. Ohio State. Miami. Yeah. What's your guy? How shocked for you?

I was not shocked at all, Rob. I actually told my host, on Sundays from 9, from 2 to 5 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. Dan Byer, he's an Ohio State fan, obviously. And I told him to watch out for this game. I thought Miami had enough defense, enough pass rush to affect Ohio State. And, I mean, they have something to prove, right? They were one of the last teams, and I think they were the last that large big team

and possibly. And, you know, they were at one point in the year considered the best team in football. So, you know, you have a bump. You lose a game here in the regular season, and you think that team can't win. And that team was more than capable of winning, and they showed that last night. But is that what we have or is this what college football has made happen, which is putting all these teams in, teams taking buys. I mean, let's just be honest.

And I'm not making any excuses because Miami dominates. Okay, the first half, Ohio State was lucky to be down 14-0. Am I right? They fumbled in the red zone early. I think their first possession. they should have been up by three or four scores, three scores at least. Easy. Okay?

Yeah. And when Miami scored in the second half, the game right away becomes a ball game, right? 14-7, whatever. But my point is, this is teams that get buys in the first round since this new format. Haven't won a game yet. Excuse me, I'm not used to being up so early this morning. I got my hot tea. We'll get it together.

But 0 and 5. Ohio State hadn't played football. Kerry, you're the former football player in 25 days. Yes. You can't tell me that doesn't affect you. And I'm not making excuses because last year, Ohio State was the number eight seed. And they blew out the number one seed. Blew them out by right, 20-something point.

Yes. Tell me. Like playing. We saw this in baseball a couple years ago, too, when they gave the number one seeds in baseball off. They all lost. lost, the Dodgers lost. Everybody lost. And they said, well, you're used to playing, and now you're getting a break, and the other

team is continuing to play. What do you make of what has happened here for college football? I mean, that Ohio State is out. Yeah. I mean, the fact that Ohio State is out, I don't think that's, I don't think, I think, what we got yesterday is what they want. They want people to believe that teams that are lower seeds have a chance to win. Oh, I don't believe. No, no, Rob, listen. I want to hear this, yeah, because I think that they're not happy that Ohio State is. No, it's not about, yes, I understand Ohio State as the brand being out. That's a problem.

I hear you. But they also want to give the guys and the young men that are the double-digit seeds believe that they can win, right? Like a lot of people think when these teams get in and they may not be as celebrated as an Ohio state or whatever. We're talking about Miami. They are. So I'm not saying them. But in general, you want people to believe that that team has a chance to win.

So I think it's good from that perspective. Now, as far as the brand in college football and having a repeat champion for the first time in a long time or whatever, like that's another storyline, but I don't think it hurts this point. I think it actually helps them. See, I'm going to disagree,

and I'll go to college basketball. Okay. Yes, we want to Cinderella's, okay? Okay. We want to send- Rob, but I'm not a Cinderella. No, no, no, no. No, no, no.

But I'm just saying in general with the brands, the big brands getting knocked out. Yes. Okay. Oh, Cinderella is great. People love Cinderella in the first round. Sure. Okay?

Yes. A couple years ago, and I don't remember the exact year, three of the four and the final four were like Cinderella. The lowest rate in people, the blue bloods weren't. Florida Atlantic. Do you remember? Yes. Yeah.

And all the blue bloods weren't involved or whatever, and the ratings were horrible, and people didn't watch. Sure. So there is a degree of that. Yeah. So I don't think that if Ohio State is your top brand and your top school defending champ, you want them to go out in the first round of this.

This is not, I don't think, what they really wanted. Well, I think the problem with that or the solution to that would just be the way they're seed in it. Miami's not a 12 seed or 10, you know, like they shouldn't be, right? Teams that won their conferences got the go-ahead before they did. So I think when you talk about the problems of what that playoff looks like, it's not about 10-C Miami-beaten the number two-seat Ohio State. It's about the reseeding of it.

Miami's not a 10-C. They're a really good football team and had a couple slip-ups during the regular season, which dropped them to the spot you're talking about. Right. But the slip-ups are that's why you play the regular season, right? So that you ensure that the best teams, you want the best teams involved. Don't get me wrong.

And I'm not saying Cinderella stories or a team coming out of nowhere. That's great every once in a while. And I just think for Ohio State, and then again, we can start talking about the college football and what matters. Having a cupcake schedule playing people and then you get into this tournament and now you're playing all good schools. So that's another thing. And we hear at USC the dummy and down of the schedule so that we can pile up wins, get into the tournament, right? And then what happens when you play the big dogs?

You're going to get a rude awakening. People kind of like questioned Ohio State schedule, right, a little bit, like who did they really play? Yeah. And then it came to Roos in Miami. And they really, they dominate that game, like from the start. And even at one point just watching. I just felt like Ohio State's QB was shook. He was shook.

He was throwing hospital passes. Am I right? Like just fling, like guys open in front of him, throw the ball up, but it's got to get crushed by defensive players. There was another player, I remember, where he was open, like in the flat and just threw it out of bat. Like, he just had become. He could have just ran and got a first down. Right.

It was third and two. They were trying to drive. Third and two, they were driving down to try to at least get points before the half, get a field goal. And just like his internal clocks messed up, he didn't know how much time's on the clock. He could have ran, got the first down in college, the clock stopped. So they'd have been fine. But he was rattled. That pass rush from Ruben Bain and those guys from Miami was just relentless all night.

So they were, it's a huge upset. I mean, and I talk about this only from the standpoint of while you have respect for Miami. Of course, yeah. We're talking about Vegas doesn't give you nine and a half points. Do you know what I mean? That's a major, a major upset. It is. Where people thought Ohio State is going to waltz into a back-to-back situation.

People at Michigan would probably have their panties in a bunch. Oh, my God. It's bad enough that Ohio State won last year. Now they're going to, you know what I mean, roll off a couple of wins here and the way college football has evolved. I think it was kind of shocking. I mean, I'm just talking about from that standpoint. From that standpoint, yes.

They started out, I think, Rob. I think they were double-digit favorites going into that game. But around game time, if you looked at it, that line had dropped to just a touchdown. They had dropped down to like six and a half, seven. So the consensus, I think, once you really settled into what Miami has and what Ohio State has and then actually the factors of that game, both teams come into that game with top-notch defenses, Ohio State, you just said it, though. Who did they play?

No, that's the knock on them. So to get tested in the real way against a team that had something to prove, I mean, for me, it was the recipe for a win by Miami. But for college football and the way that these top teams have been getting knocked out, is that really what, do they have to re-look at the way they set up the playoff format? Because I don't know if that's really how you want the playoff to go. And I'm not saying you're trying to rig it or fix it so that the better teams or better brands, you know,

can kind of move forward. But we've seen this now for a couple years. Well, they've done everything they could, Rob, to make sure the teams they want in it and get in it. That's not gloss over that. Trust me, I already know how they operate. And this is, it's a business. Like you can sit there and you can talk about anything you want.

It's just like the deal that they have with Notre Dame. that they only have to be is the top 12 and they're going to get into the college football playoff. Regardless, no matter what, if they're in the top 12 and they were able to broker that deal because they have leverage. They have the NBC deal. They have their own money.

No one's forced them. You could easily, if you really wanted to punish Notre Dame, right, you could. They got too big of a fan base. They got too much money behind them that you can't ignore them. They went in with that leverage to be able to tell the college football this is their deal. You want to take it or not?

You know what I mean? Like, yeah. No, it's insane. Like, we know what they want. It's about money. It's about TV. It's about the ratings. It's about all of that.

But I think... So is Indiana the chance? Is Indiana now, do you look at Indiana has the pathway to be the national champs? Is that going to happen or could they be upset? Oh, they can be upset today. They play Alabama. Obviously, Alabama's not Nick Saban Alabama, but they're Alabama. They can win a game.

And we just talk about it. Where are you from? I'm from Alabama. I just want to check you on that. That's all. I'm always, you know me, I'm going to always full of curtain back. I'm not mad at you for being from Alabama, but I always. A little kid, little kid, roll tie, baby.

See, I know. I'm just saying. But what I'm saying is, you picked him every year? I don't. I'm not a fan now. Are you Kelvin Washington, pick everything, Detroit, every time? Absolutely not. Okay, all right.

I actually pick against them in big games just to mess my family. Okay, because they're all right. What do you mean? Exactly. Don't you know this is your birth state? What are you doing? Exactly. No, they have a chance to win.

I'm not saying they are. And I think Indiana, I mean, they have a really good chance to win today. We just talked about, though, teams that have the double by or what? 0-15, Rob. Right. And so we're going to see. Like, taking all that time off. But would you change that?

Like, seriously, now you've got a big enough sample size. It's not, okay, last year, okay, just a freak or fluke or whatever. How State Good's knocked out. Looks rusty from the start. And I'm going to get Miami played well. Yes. I'm not trying to poo-poo them, but Ohio State didn't seem like they... They started slow.

Right? Slow, really, really slow. Yeah. You cannot dip your toe in the water when it comes to playoff football, playoff anything. You got to come and ready to go. And they weren't ready to go to start. Yeah. That's what I always think about college football, just the layoff between the end of the regular season.

Even just for a bowl game. Right. And they, oh, no, we got to wait until the playoffs, I mean, until the holidays to put those games on. Yes. And then there's like a month or like 25. days a long time. And we don't like it. We're practicing without a game. So think about that process, even just from the player standpoint, you get tired of going against each other. And we've seen that, even in training camp, that's why training camp is hard. It's not because you're doing

all these reps and you're out in the, like, no, you're practicing every day with not a, there's a goal, but not a goal that's right in front of your face that you can see. That's what I always thought, this is just me, why football wouldn't be fun. And I'm just, yeah, it's, it. It's, it's, is that you practice more than you play. You do. Like for me, as a baseball guy who play baseball, baseball, yeah. You play all the, am I right?

Like, there's such a difference. Like, I'm just practice, practice, and then you just get that one game. You know what I mean? And I get it. It's a crescendo, you know, like build up. But baseball's like, you don't have time to worry about it. I was 0 for four yesterday.

I got another game today. You're 0 for four, than you two for four the next game and your Hall of Famer. You know what I mean? 100%. But in football, you get one opportunity at the end of the week. And if you screw that up, you got a whole other week to think about it. Yeah, it is something.

And it sent shockwaves, no doubt, through college football. Was Miami's upset last night a bad thing for college football? Kerry says no. I say yes. It is bad. I don't care what you say. 877. 484-34-37.

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We're back in the wood paneling back here. One game with you and I, of course, is the Oregon, Texas Tech Bowl game, our quarterfinals for the playoffs. And leading up to the game, a lot of the conversation was not so much on the game itself, which obviously is a huge game. It was more so on Dan Lending's comments

about the state of college football, the calendar, and more specifically, how the NFL has infringed upon our freedom. Take a listen to the same. I've got a ton of respect for the NFL, but we're a prep league for the NFL. We do a lot of favors for the NFL, right? We're the minor league in a lot of ways, but there's no money paid from the NFL to take care of college football, right? And in that sense, we've given up some of our days, right, to the NFL.

We said, oh, you guys get to have this day, you get to have this day, you get to have this day. Saturdays should be sacred for college football, right? and every Saturday through the month of December should belong to college football, in my opinion. And I saw Kerry reacted, like, what is he saying? But I'm with Dan Lanning. You with Dan?

Yes, because the NFL, they're bullies. And Kerry, I know you're an NFL vet and all that. And I respect, you know, being able to make it to the league. Yes, yes. But they have infringed on Saturdays with college football. How they've got, there's a law. Rob G, we talked about the law to television agreement that said

you can't Rob G, what was that broadcast law that said high school football on Friday college football on Saturday and the NFL on Sunday so that they wouldn't, the NFL couldn't you know,

overshadow and overshadow like high school football and local level and college football or whatever. Yeah. And how they've gotten away with it is because on Saturday, they do the streaming and they did Friday, Black Friday games on streaming,

not on broadcast television. And his only point is, and, you know, people look at the NBA. They took over Christmas from the NBA. So this is the NBA. I get it. They're the big guy in the room. They're the bully. Yeah.

But I do understand, and if you're going to be Dan Lannning and the college football, then you have to make it clear the NFL like, hey, let us have Saturday. Like, let us have Saturday. Because what was the game? There was a game against the NFL, like, right? Two Saturdays ago or whatever, like, you know, a college football game.

What was that? I don't know. It was like, you know, they're playing on the same day. But you have to wage a real war. And what I mean by that if you're college football is if you guys don't want to work with us, we might have to cut off the axe. that we give you to our athletes, to our intel, you know what I mean? Because they have a free minor league system.

And he talked about it. Rob, cutting off the access to the university or to the players isn't going to help anybody, though. No, but I'm just saying, I get for the players. But remember, everybody doesn't make it to the NFL. So it's a handful. I mean, it sounds good. The two or three guys, there's a whole other group of guys. And all I'm saying is you've got to have some sort of working relationship.

We foot the bill for a lot. When I say we college football, the Dodgers have 10 minor league teams that they have to pay, coaches, fields. That comes out of their money. NFL doesn't have any of that. They don't have to, they just do their business, and they got this free feeder system that they don't have to do anything with. And that's all I'm saying. It's like the last thing we want, we're not even asking for money. Right.

Can we have Saturdays? High school football Fridays, college football Saturdays, and then NFL, which you've already seen, between Monday, Thursday night, and now they got the Black Friday game. They play games on Saturday. Yeah. That's all. I don't think what he's saying is ridiculous. Yeah, but I would say just check the temperature.

the room as well, all right? The stuff you're saying is 100% right, and I can understand him saying that from that perspective. But then you look at college football, and what days are college football play on? Is it just solely Saturday? Well, not, but I'm just saying, like, so, like, they've taken steps to, you know,

find extra days to play on and have moments to stand along on Friday. They have Friday night games. So they have, they've started to spread their wives. And so if they're saying the NFL does that, the high school can say they're a, for college and they're taking their day. So, like, everybody has beef. But the difference is those high school games

on our national television. Some of them are. Well, but the majority. And they know because they see the ratings being heard in college football. College football ratings are down. You know what I mean? Despite all these teams and all the money that's involved

and all that other stuff, it ain't as easy as it has been. Yeah. Rob G, do we have this call here? Is that the... No, no, no, I just... Oh, it dropped again. So we got problems here on the phone. It's all good.

I just thought that was the same guy I was trying to get in here. On the odd couple. Yeah, so... But the only way talking about it ain't going to get nothing done is all I'm saying. It'd have to be a real, a real, like, all-out war

in order to get them to understand, like, how important this is. And I'm just saying, You have to mark your territory. The NBA just rolled over. They did, you know, and now they find themselves where Christmas Day, which is crazy. And the NBA rolled out these ratings for those games.

And the NFL just said, well, look at our ratings. They doubled or triple what you guys. For games, that didn't even matter. But I think it comes to this, Rob. Like, what's the real contingency plan? Right. Like, we can have these drags. People can say certain things out loud

and can be one-off since then on your own. But somebody like a Dan Lannon, who's been a really great coach and coach is one of the best teams in college football in Oregon, like why not have this conversation with the powers to be in college and in the NFL? And not the fans.

You know what I mean? Like, that doesn't matter. Right. There's no doubt that that's a conversation that you have to have. But we are where we are. And what I mean is everything is public, all these press conferences, all that stuff.

It wasn't always like that, you know, where you heard all these things. So it wasn't like he was standing on top of the Empire State Building yelling. You know what I mean? He's in a press conference. They ask him about something. And then, boom, guys get on their soapbox a little bit. And that's usually where that kind of stuff comes from. But it is interesting, just as the NFL continues to just monopolize it.

And I've said it all the time. The NFL, people don't remember it. when they came off of CBS, CBS didn't want to pay the rights fees. And the NFL, people don't remember when the NFL was taken off of network television, Monday night football, people don't, because the ratings weren't good. On Monday night football? On Monday night football. Wow.

That's why they came off of ABC. Okay. People, because Monday Night Raw had better ratings than Monday night football. Did you know that? I didn't know that. In what year? In what year? A taglet Boo.

was the commissioner. So you got to go back to that. I don't know the exact year. Like 90s? And supposedly he went to Vince McMahon and tried to get them to move Monday Night Raw. Because they were affecting people. And then this thing called the fantasy football came along and changed everything. Because I used to be, if you were a fan of a particular team like your team,

The Jets. I grew up and I was a Jets fan. Fantasy football made me care about games that had nothing to do with my team because I had a player on the Jacksonville Jaguar. So now I'm watching and I'm interested in that game where before I was never interested in any, and that's how you take something from regional to a national interest and then you add the element of gambling on top of it.

But those were the two things. Fantasy football, people winning money and caring, about games, a meaningless Jacksonville game against the Panthers. All of a sudden, people are watching on a Monday night. Because they're on his team. Right. They don't care who wins or loses. So it was of that ilk.

It was amazing. And so that has what happened. All right, now let's welcome in Yogi Roth from the Big Ten Network, of course, analysts and the host of the Y-Option podcast. and Yogi, happy New Year. Say hello to Kerry Rhodes here on the herd. What's happening? A lot's happening.

Happy to you two as well. Thanks for having me on. I'm a big fan of all the work that you all do. And it is a beautiful morning. It's a little rainy. We just finished our pregame show, as you referenced on the Big Ten Network out here at the Rose Bowl, and just kind of getting going here with the Oregon game.

So it's going to be a fun New Year's Day. Yogi, how many why options can you still run right now? You still can run a couple of those? You know, I can. I'll get past the sticks and I'll get down. And I'll get down. That's all I got. But I'm in.

All right, Yogi, let's go to last night's game. And, you know, Miami dominate. It should have been probably leading by three scores in the first half. They were up by two. They dominated that game. And here's Ohio State hadn't played in 25 days, the number one seed, all that, out the window. And we look at it.

And now teams with the buys are now 0 and 5 in this new format. Is this a problem in college football or not? Yeah, it's a cool question. I still don't think we have all the data. I mean, talk to me at the end of the night. You know, maybe it's a different answer. I think that we do have in college football, number one, I think we ought to give Miami a ton of credit.

No doubt. No doubt. They dominated. They earned that win. I'm not even trying to poo-poo. Yeah, no, I know that. And you've always been that way. I think what stood out to me in that game for Ohio State first was their last two games.

They've had moments. Their margin for error has just, the surprising part, it's been so small. Indiana, they had two or three runs that almost broke. They would have won the game if they make one of those plays. They don't throw that pick six. Who knows what happens in the second half. I'm with you. That was surprising for me.

I thought Ohio State would go and have a chance to repeat. They don't, to your point on the layoff, we just got done talking about. Indiana is now 26 days. Texas Tech, they're down early, 26 days. Oh, wow. And I think it speaks more to the calendar of we should be playing the title game right now. Like, you know, I started thinking about the last night of the NFL, like the top seats still get buys, but they're only off for a week. Yep.

You know, they're not off for three, almost a month. Right. So I think that they're going to look at this. I think the calendar is getting just too much momentum from coaches. I mean, look at the game you're watching now in Oregon. Tosh, Lupoy, Will Stein, just get their dream jobs to be head coaches. And they're coordinating a team. and all their focus is there.

Brian Hartline last night for Ohio State. You can put your focus there, but you also have to put it elsewhere. And I just think it doesn't make a lot of sense and what's going to happen if we play this thing out in my eyes in five years, is college football just doesn't become entertaining anymore outside of the games. And the NFL is entertaining outside of the games. We love free agency.

We love the draft. We love the portal, if you will. I think college football can learn a thing or two from that. And I hope they do make those necessary changes. Yeah, Yogi, that's a great point. I mean, we kind of glossed over the Brian, the heartline not being able to call plays last night because of his new job affiliation. And, you know, Day going back to play call. And do you think that had any effect on the slow start or do you just attribute it to the 25 days off?

I think it all contributes to it. I mean, Brian Day is so accomplished as a play caller. It's hard to criticize him based on just his pedigree and what he's always done. But it's been two years. So I think it's a fair thing to bring up when you add. in the 25 days off. The injuries on the offensive line, they dealt with a different starting

offensive line group, and then they had to change, excuse me, again, at the half due to an injury. So, I mean, you combine all those things, plus Miami's strength is their front seven. Yes, yes. I mean, them in Indiana and Oregon, I mean, you kind of talk a lot of these CFP teams, but it's an explosive, violent group.

I mean, that is their strength defensively. And two weeks in a row, or two games in a row, rather, Iowa State got exposed up front. And that was the thing that I was most looking forward to in the game because you guys know this. When a coach finds a flaw within themselves, like Ohio's Day did, they gave up five sacks against Indiana. I think six all season heading into the Big Ten title game. They gave up a bunch more again last night. I thought they would have found ways to shore that up.

They tried to with tempo and getting the ball out, but ultimately it just wasn't enough. How about Miami? Where are they now? Can they really upset the apple cart or was this a one-off? I'll tell you what. My favorite graphic, the far in the CFP that we saw on TV last night, was since that game in 2002, 2003, the national title game between those two teams. Yeah. I think Miami's only had four 10-win seasons,

and Ohio State had something like 18. Wow. And now I wrote it down somewhere that it's clearly not trying to me now. I apologize, but it was crazy to see that. And, you know, I've known Coach Cristobal, as you guys have for a long time. And I think there is something that's cliche, but accurate in college football. when the U is back, when the Trojans are rolling. Like there is something to the blue bloods being really blue

because it's so easy to take shots at them when they're down. It's also amazing to watch Indiana and Texas Tech have this crazy elevation that they've never seen in their historic programs, respectively. But overall, yeah, I think it's real. Watching Mario rebuild Oregon within the trenches and then pass it off to Dan Landing, who's taken it to another level. and then when he left to take over his alma mater, just a program that we all remember

as of no idea what Miami was like back in the day. I don't know if you guys had to do either. I remember playing against Entrol Roll and Sean Taylor and Jonathan Vilma, like that would Ken Dorsey. We played those Jeremy Shockey. It was awesome back in the old Big East. So yeah, I think they're real.

And we'll see how this thing shakes out. But can you imagine Oregon, Miami? Like, how much fun would that be with Mario Cristobal and Dan Lannning just for the drama? football in the national title game. It would be. Our guest is Yogi Roth from the Big Ten Network, of course, an analyst and host of the Y Option podcast.

Joining us here on the herd, Rob Parker, Kerry Rhodes, in for Colin on this New Year's Day. Yogi, when we cover the Big Ten a lot. And obviously, when we look at the Big Ten in football, I mean, we think about Ohio State, Michigan. Obviously, Indiana has kind of jumped in in that party in that mix as well. I'm rooting against Indiana. We're going to talk about that coming up. They're not the little engine that couldn't.

They're not. No, no, no. But Indiana joined the party with those two. But we always talk about the Big Ten and the SEC being the pillars of college football. And I just, I think we put too much credence in that. And I think individually, some of these teams deserve a little bit more credit. Like, do you really think that the Big Ten and the SEC is head and shoulders above when we talk about the full body of work of these conferences? Head and shoulders, I think, is aggressive.

And I come at it from the lens of, yeah, I used to work for the Pact 12. But I know what it was like to be the only, you know, one of the very few people, you're kind of fighting for a league. Exactly. Try to talk about the strength. And when I look at the Big 12, I see the old Pact 12 of a bunch of really good teams that, you know, beat each other in one score, high scoring games. Exactly. When I look at the ACC, I'm a PIT alum, you know, it's still weird for me to think a pit in the ACC. And it's been almost damn here 20 years for them being in that league.

I think here's the truth that I've learned in the last two seasons. calling all Big Ten games, really even betting myself within that league. And I'd say the same for the SEC. To go in nine conference games for the Big Ten, SEC, thankfully, thank the Lord will go there next year and get out of that week, week 11 game that majority of them have. It's brutal. It's just hard.

I mean, Minnesota is a tough out. SC, a tough out. Washington, a tough out. Like, that's the challenge. I think as the years go on, and if you ask me, year, your biggest takeaway of the Big Ten, I would have said, man, I didn't think the quarterback play was as good as I wanted it to be.

Yeah. This season, it's been the best in the history of the Big Ten. And I've checked that with Jared DeNardo, who's been a Big Ten network analyst for nearly 20 years. And he he took co-sign on that. And you look up and down the league. Look at whether there's DeMont Williams or Dante Moore or Maiava, Dylan Royola at the time, when he was at Nebraska, look at Mark Renowski, what he just did against Tennessee at Iowa. Like you start looking at it, Drake Lindsay at Minnesota.

will not get a lot of play, but he'll be drafted in two years. He's a big-time pocket passer. So I start looking at that. And then when I talk to guys in the portal, Fernando Mendoza being one of them, they want to come play in this league in the Big Ten or the SEC. So it's becoming the power too. And I'll finish with this. What is surprising most in my sidebar conversations with coaches and athletic departments

is there's a desire to get as they've called to the power to. And I never thought I'd hear that. But whether that's resources, whether that's exposure, whether that's media, whatever it is. But to me, the Big Ten is that. It is different. And it'll surprise. And then I guess the last part was the fan basis.

Like the care factors through the roof. I mean, it's crazy, man. I'm calling Rutgers-Purdue, winless Big Ten teams in late September, and it's sold out. Wow. West Lafayette. Like, that is a really cool element. So I do think the diversity of players scheme, the quarterbacks are now finding their way.

Coaches want to coach in this league. The money, resources have a part to do with that. the tradition, of course, carries it. So head and shoulders, no, but are they separating? I think so. I feel that being embedded in it. All right. And yogi, I would be remiss without asking you who you're named after.

Oh, yeah. Thanks for asking. Yeah. Often people think it's. Yogi Berra. Well, there's only two yogis. Yogi Bear and Yogi Berra, right? There's only two.

Well, I'll add a third team. No, it's three. So my family, my parents studied Eastern philosophies forever. So every kid got a Hindu name as one of their either first or middle name. And then the other one was Hebrew because my mom was born to raise in the Middle East and Israel. So yogi is like if you practice yoga, right, if you're trying to bring some union to the world in this chaotic world, we're arguing. Yes. Right?

You go to yoga class. You get centered. They decided to give me that name and tried to shake it early on because, of course, you're a kid and an athlete. Right. But I'm really proud of it now, and hopefully I can do that in, you know, every part of my life. Well, thank your parents for me. Yes. Well, that's awesome.

And I always, when I hear names that, you know, you don't hear that often, I always want to ask. You know what I mean? Where they came from. But Yogi Roth, man, we appreciate you. Thanks for joining us here on the herd. Thank you, Yogi. Heck, yeah. Happy New Year.

Enjoy and keep killing it. Enjoy watching you guys. Thank you, buddy. Happy New Year. All right. Dan Campbell really put his foot in his mouth this week. Uh-oh. Yes, he did.

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Just not today because you're doing this show. No, I want to hear it. You're nobody side piece. Look at it. Nobody side piece. Rob G. One of my favorite coaches, Dan Gamble, I mean, Dan Campbell from the Detroit Lions. Oh, my God.

He was waxing poetically about his quarterback, Jared Gall. Yeah, Jared Gough, you mentioned in the commercial break, had one of the worst closing to a season as possible. Last year against the competition. matters in the playoffs, had four turnovers this year, and a must-win got to have a game against the Minnesota Vikings, has five. So you know what that means, right, Rob G? And Kerry?

What that means? He had more turnovers than a baker than a bakery. Then a baby. There we go. And so afterwards, Rob Parker came on Fox Sports Radio and said, you got to get rid of Jerry Gough. And I think that they heard that in Detroit because Dan Campbell was asked about and he said, quote, Jared's an absolute stud. He's a pro. He's going nowhere.

You're right. he's not going to the Super Bowl, neither are the Lions. And Jerry Gall, here we go. He puts up numbers. I get it. Kerry, they didn't, like, there's different levels to everything. It's great to win regular season games.

The Lions, with the young nucleus and the players that they've signed and where they were, the idea is to get to the Super Bowl. So let's not, let's stop acting like just winning, nine games is great and we're all happy, shmappy, and all that. It is Detroit, though. Okay, but three years ago, they were in the NFC championship game,

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