The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 1 - Michigan changes their toon

Episode Date: November 17, 2023

Colin examines the latest with Michigan dropping their lawsuit against the NCAA regarding the suspension of head coach Jim Harbaugh He talks about the Bengals losing QB Joe Burrow to injury in their ...loss the Ravens on Thursday Night FootballSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:13 One hour from now, Blazing Five. Very excited. I like our picks this week. We're above 500 this year. Very exciting. KMAC. So a couple of big things. A really big thing that happened yesterday.
Starting point is 00:02:35 The Jim Harbaugh suspension by the Big Ten, so we don't have a conclusion, at least from the conference perspective, on the Jim Harbaugh stuff. Yeah, and they just let go another coach this morning, linebackers coach, but I can't wait to talk about Glass Joe Borough, that is, and the Bengals. He's always hurt, Colin. We'll get to that in a second. So the Big Ten agreed, agreed to close their own.
Starting point is 00:03:00 investigation. It is resolved now. Harbaugh gets a three-game suspension of which he's already served 33% of that. He was not there for Penn State. That's their second toughest game of the year. He won't be there this weekend for Maryland. They should probably win. And then he'll be off the sideline for Ohio State. It'd be much better to have him. That's a real team. But this idea that the punishment from the Big Ten was going to be severe, punitive was laughable. everything in life is negotiable. Oh, oh, way more than you think. You and your wife negotiate things.
Starting point is 00:03:38 You and your kids do. The Big Ten didn't want to get into a lawsuit with Michigan, especially Michigan. It's basically Ohio State with more esteemed academics. There is no proof, by the way, that Harbaugh knew. I know, I know Buckeye fans, you're sure he did. But I defended Buckeye fans when everybody, said they were sure Ryan Day turned in
Starting point is 00:04:02 Harbaugh. And I said, no, he didn't. I suspect it's an inside job because head coaches in college football are highly compensated and often polarizing. And I was right. So don't rush to think Harbaugh knew internet
Starting point is 00:04:19 sleuths. If the Big Ten thought he did, the action, the punishment would have been more severe. The NCAA will step in eventually, I suppose it'll be after the season and hand down something that will be like scholarship limits or a suspension again. It should be noted that Michigan's never lost when Harbaugh's not on the sidelines. A great indication of how well the program is run.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Is it fair? Is it reasonable? Well, you and I may differ in opinion. I do not think advanced scouting, which is called cheating, was deciding games. Ohio State for years and years crushed everybody in this conference including Michigan. Why? Better coaches, better players. And Michigan for years and years has crushed
Starting point is 00:05:07 everybody in this conference except Ohio State because they got a better coach and better players. But in the last two years, Michigan got a really good quarterback. So they even crushed Ohio State. And Buckeye fans believe that is just because of the cheating. It's not because Harbaugh, who got to a Super Bowl, is a better coach than Ryan Day, which he is, or that he has a better, better game plan the last two years.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Or they're more a physical football team the last two years than Ohio State, which has gotten increasingly finesse over the last three years, very receiver-dependent. But guess what? We're going to find out if you're right or I'm right in eight days, because that's when Ohio State goes to Michigan and plays. And if Ohio State, now with all that, dreadful cheating
Starting point is 00:05:57 hammers Michigan well I guess I was wrong guess I'll be wrong but let me ask you a question Buckeye fans you've lost two straight been humiliated even with C.J. Stroud what if Michigan humiliates you again
Starting point is 00:06:13 won't be any cheating won't even be Harbaugh we're going to make fun of you because you were outraged absolutely outraged and absolutely sure were those Michigan fans that Ryan Day turned him in. And I said, I don't believe that's true.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I defended you, and I was right. And I think I'm right here. But don't celebrate too loudly on Harbaugh missing that game on the sidelines. Because if Michigan rolls Ohio State in eight days without the cheating in Harbaugh, that's embarrassing. They will officially own Ohio. Celebrate today. Pump your fist today. Go to Reddit boards today.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I'm sure there's a Buckeye site. You're declaring victory. Maybe you're right. Maybe I'm wrong. And in eight days, we will have a conclusion. But I don't believe Michigan's been thumping Ohio State the last two years because they're cheating. I think Jim Harbaugh's career illustrates without question. Then what he gets an NFL quarterback or a top quarterback,
Starting point is 00:07:22 he goes from beating people to thumping everybody. Ask Aaron Rogers. who got worked by Kampernick and not for a power outage, he may have won a Super Bowl. Go asked USC where Pete Carroll confronted Harbaugh at midfield in the middle of his dynasty.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Said, what's the deal? Jim said, hey, I'm just competing. They humiliated USC and Pete Carroll. The dynasty out west, the last one. So in eight days, we're going to have a conclusion here. But Ohio State, be careful about the celebration. because if they roll you again, can't blame cheating,
Starting point is 00:08:04 and no harbaugh on the sidelines, will illustrate just how far Michigan has pulled away from Ohio State. I can't wait. Maybe wrong, but that's why sports is great. Gratification, eight days. You're right, I'm right. We'll discover it. All right, so I saw this.
Starting point is 00:08:26 This was weird. This was weird. people freaked out about this. Sounds like people lost some bets last night. The NFL is investigating why the Bengals did not list quarterback Joe Burrow on their injury report when the team had posted a picture of him
Starting point is 00:08:44 wearing some sort of device on his wrist Wednesday night. And he appeared to be kind of hampered by the injury early in the game. Okay, so let me ask you this. Joe Burrow practiced all week and was very effective in the game. 11 for 17 with a touchdown. And then
Starting point is 00:09:03 re-aggravated a sore wrist. What do you want the NFL to do? In college football, they don't tell you anything. In hockey, they'll tell you upper body, lower body injury. In the NBA, starters tell the coach at 615,
Starting point is 00:09:19 load management, I don't want to play. And you're upset at this? The NFL tells us who practices all week. They tell us Every player who's in, who's out. They tell us throughout the week, are they questionable, are they doubtful?
Starting point is 00:09:35 What more do you want? Do you want an asterisk next to that? Joe Burrell, he practiced. He was really good, and wrists were kind of sore, but he was really good, and his wrist is sore. There's a difference between an injury and a sore wrist.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Well, he was wearing a device. Oh, you mean like what? Tom Brady wore his last 12 years on his knee? Or the fact that Burrell wears a pad on his calf every time he comes to the sideline. He wears a device every time he leaves the field. Players are wearing all sorts of stuff. What do you want the league to do? Well, there's a device.
Starting point is 00:10:19 You think you know who's hurt. I always laugh at guys. You think you have all the information. Your wife's had fantasies. They're not about you. She tell you? You can't even get a straight answer from who you're married to. None of us can.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Our kids lie to us, and you think you're going to get all the information. By the way, players in this league want to play. They don't even tell coaches all the time when they're hurt. We see this all the time. Players do not disclose all the information. They got a family to feed. They want to play. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I'm fine. And they have their own trainers at home. They don't want to tell the coach I'm banged up. So players have been hiding injuries for years. And by the way, you think you're getting a straight skinny from Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick for the last 10 years? Give me a break. When people think they have all the information, when everybody was so punitive to Tiger Woods in the affair, probably half the guys in the tour at him.
Starting point is 00:11:20 You just don't know about it. They all fly private jets. You don't know what goes on in those things. I got stories. I got receipts. But what do you? want the NFL to do? I'm not defending the NFL. They make plenty of mistakes. But in the NBA, players just don't suddenly play. Nobody knows. In hockey, upper body, lower body. College football,
Starting point is 00:11:43 no disclosure. They don't tell you anything. You got coaches, fibbing. You got players, by the way. I don't blame players at all. Players all the time do not disclose information to their coaches. They want to get out there and make money. So this pristine world people live in that think you're getting all this information from even family members, from teams. You're not. Some of you lost a bet. I would have lost a bet if I'd bet the Bengals. I thought that was the side last night.
Starting point is 00:12:11 But he wore a device. He practiced all week. He was good in the game. He was 11 to 17 with a touchdown. And he aggravated something. My guess is Joe Burrell got hurt last week, banged his hand on a helmet somewhere. It happens. Matt Stafford, I swear to God, it happens four times a year.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And Burl banged his hand on a helmet. It was aggravated. He iced it. He practiced throughout the week. It wasn't great. It was fine. And over the last 10, 12 hours before the game, he wore a device to try to get some stability on it. What do you want the NFL to do?
Starting point is 00:12:44 If you had to list every player who's got a device who's wearing, Jalen Hertz has not been healthy for a year and a half. He's not on the injury report. Jalen Hertz hasn't been healthy forever. When you ask Jalen Hertz if he's healthy, he gets angry. He's like, I'm good enough. You don't want to talk about it. Most players don't want to talk about it. Zach Taylor was asked about Joe Burroughs' wrist after the game.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It looks like he sprained his wrist. So fell in it early in the game and then felt it on the touchdown pass. Jack, there was a lot made on social media about something that Burrow was wearing on his wrist, getting off the... That was the first session on. I think about it. For the record, you ever gone to work not feeling great? And then at lunch, you're like, yeah, I'm going to go. go home. I probably shouldn't come to work.
Starting point is 00:13:32 You don't think NFL guys go to games, not feeling great, not 100%, something's wrapped a little tight, more than people know. Sometimes a player will do it himself. He doesn't want to disclose it. What do you want? None of us are getting complete information anywhere. Family, wife, kids, only the delusional think they are. Nope, I don't get it from my bosses. You don't either. You think J-Mack tells me everything? I don't tell him everything. The bottom line is you're not going to get
Starting point is 00:14:01 an injury report with 55 guys left tackle Ronnie Stanley's got an awy by week 11 everybody is hurt by week 4 nobody's completely healthy the NFL does about as good a job as you're going to get
Starting point is 00:14:16 they tell us who practices and who doesn't they tell us why they tell us if they're going to play they tell us if they're questionable sometimes you don't have nearly as much information as you think you do all right Jamie
Starting point is 00:14:31 Mac, Blazing 5, top of next hour. Saquan Barclay's complaining. I think he's wrong. Lamar Jackson proving once again. Think about this. Wow. I mean, come on. That guy's so good.
Starting point is 00:14:43 He was all right. Oh, right. 180 yards passing first half. Mark Andrews hurt first drive. Mark Andrews was devastating. I had the over on his receiving yards, which was going to cash easily. He was dominated the game early with two catches. I just got to ask, so, you know, what's the deal with Burrow wearing a brace on his throwing hand, a brace, whatever it was?
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah. Like, why would they delete it from social media once it became a thing? The Bengals social media account. Well, I think organizations, Belichick, I don't think they want anything out there. Belichick was legendary for fibbing for his entire 20 years. The idea that you, once you acknowledge in life, I never get mad at when people don't disclose things to me. Because I don't think everybody does. There's this group of precious reporters out there and people that think they just, they have a right. to know everything and that all the information they want is out there. No, it's not. It is not.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I have stories information that I hold because I don't want to burn a source or it's leading to a bigger story. Everybody in this, the ID is wearing a brace. Why can't he wear a brace? Brady wore a brace in his knee for the last 12 years of his career. Should he report it every week? Tommy's got an alley in his left knee. Guys wear braces in the NBA. Steve Kerr wore a brace for 12 years. Does it have to be in the report? Well, I guess nobody's betting. on you burning sources. A lot of people were back on the Bengals. Now listen, Glass Joe Burrow had the calf injury earlier this year,
Starting point is 00:16:08 and now he's got a wrist injury that he's nursing. I didn't know that going into Baltimore against an elite defense. I wouldn't have back the Bengals yesterday. I still would have. Huh? I still would have. Knowing his wrist injury? I mean, he couldn't grip a ball in the second quarter.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Was the wrist injury a problem at practice all week? No. Was it a problem on the first two drives? No. Correct. But what was the injury? Was it re-aggravated? I mean, I just would love more information. Oh, you are one of the I'd like more information.
Starting point is 00:16:36 By the way, do you know why doctors call it a practice? They don't have all the answers. Correct, yes. CTE. NFL had no idea. You can ask brain doctors about CTE. We don't have all the answers. Once you realize we don't have all the medical answers, all the political answers, all the sports answers, all the health answers.
Starting point is 00:16:59 But we're not betting on. any of those things. We're betting on the That is your choice to bet. You don't have, that is your privilege to bet that you make enough money to bet. That is your choice. And by the way, I'm a better. But that's a choice you make. It's like playing fantasy
Starting point is 00:17:16 football and yelling at the player because he doesn't make a catch. That's a you problem. I remember the Browns game earlier this year where Watson was going to be in, going to be in and at like two hours before the game, they're like DTR is starting. Remember that? No idea. As soon as I saw it, Two drives.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I go, wow, that's money flushed down the toilet. You don't get angry. No, I didn't. I don't get angry. One of the last, the last thing I do before the Blazing Five, the last thing I do, and I do it every Friday morning, you can ask my staff, I go to the injury report. Yeah. For instance, the Rams are the healthiest they have been in a long time. I like the Rams this week.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Same. Okay. So I check it. But I also realize between now and Sunday afternoon, stuff happens. We got, we got players. players, without naming a name, players have been hurt on the road in their hotel. Players re-aggravate stuff. Players, I mean, so it's like, I check Blazing 5 every week.
Starting point is 00:18:12 The last thing I do is injuries. You could ask Ryan, I'm like, hey, this morning, look at this, look at this, look at this. But I still am 48 hours away. So I don't know exactly what's going to happen. That's a great point. So when I gamble, which I do and I love, draft kings rocks, when I do, I know there is some risk that I don't have all the information. I bake that in.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I get the most information I can. Better than hockey, better than the NBA, better than college football. Here's what's super interesting. The big money gamblers, the guys who were putting $100,000, six-figure bets on the bet. They didn't know about this because the Bengals took money twice during the week. This went down to three and a half, back up to four. Nobody was aware of whatever the risk thing was. Maybe they should have bought DocuSign.
Starting point is 00:18:54 It's been beaten down on the market by some docu sign. Wow, look at you. There's a lot of places you could put it. If you have the discretionary income to spend $100 on a gambling a football game, you think I'm not going to sleep tonight? By the way, if anybody has the information on Justin Jefferson, whether or not he's going to play this weekend. Send it on over.
Starting point is 00:19:11 By the way, great example. That was the last game I passed on because of that. So I was going to take Denver. But because of the Justin Jefferson situation, it's my last game I passed on. did not make the Blazing 5 because of that because I can't get clarity on a star player who for a quarterback that's young on the road would be really valuable. So that's a great example that I just said I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And that decision may not be made until after the walkthrough. He'll go out, he'll walk, how do I feel? It's outside. It's Denver. They come in. If you go into this stuff knowing that you don't have all the information, you don't arrogantly believe it's your right to know, you never get upset. Justin Jefferson may make his decision
Starting point is 00:19:58 12 minutes before kickoff and it may be based on hey you are outside mile high high altitude cold weather bro how do you how do you feel and Justin's like I can't go yeah and you don't have a right to that information right to stuff
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Starting point is 00:20:32 Jags got hammered by the Niners. I'll take a minus six and a half to cover at home against the Titans. No way the Rams beat the Seahawks twice. Seattle's minus one, a better, younger, healthier team. I'll take Seattle. Broncos at home minus two. I know it's a short week off the Monday night football win, but I think the Josh Dobbs story has limitations.
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Starting point is 00:23:21 You know, at Fox, we mostly have the NFC. and for years and years we had the dominant teams, bigger cities. AFC hit on a bunch of great quarterbacks in the draft, about seven of them. And the AFC is better than the NFC, and that's what I watched last night, two really good football teams falling apart physically. But proof that the AFC is better than the NFC is that Josh Allen is 5 and 5, Joe Burroughs 5 and 5, and Justin Herbert's 4 and 5, and even Peyton and Russell Wilson are 4 and 5.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Pretty good quarterbacks. Burroughs instability, his inability to stay healthy in September, is probably going to cost Cincinnati that I had picked to win the division. Attrition may just decide the AFC. The NFC is different. San Francisco and Philly had better players than everybody else, and everybody can see it. Detroit's kind of close.
Starting point is 00:24:11 It's got better players. But in the NFC, Gino Smith, Josh Dobbs, Derek Carr, they're all playoff quarterbacks today. You can get away with it. A flawed team and a flawed quarterback. I mean, think about Baltimore. Mark Andrews, Pro Bowl tight end gets hurt, OBJ gets hurt, Lamar Jackson gets hurt late in the game.
Starting point is 00:24:29 They were also missing their top running back, top offensive tackle, top cornerback. The Ravens are absolutely once again hanging by a thread physically. Thank God they have Lamar Jackson. But what I was watching were two very excellent teams capable of getting to the AFC championship. And my guess is whoever's healthy late in the year wins. But what Lamar Jackson is able to pull off, Mark Andrews is a top three tight end. they already lost their top running back.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Ronnie Stanley's a Pro Bowl left tackle. OBJ gets banged up fourth quarter. It's different. In the NFC, the Niners lose three straight. Eh. Nobody cares. Vikings awful in September lose their quarterback. They've won five straight.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Cowboys got worked by the Cardinals and the Niners, humiliated by both in a three-week stretch. It doesn't really matter. You're allowed to rebound. You're allowed to go in a slump. You're allowed to go on a long losing streak. You're just not in the AFC. Those are excellent teams last night with excellent quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Baltimore is falling apart. It's an annual tradition, but it's Burroughs injury. You cross your fingers on it. He's a great player, but it may just be his inability to stay healthy. This year, eventually, as good as he is in the AFC, costs him. JMAQ with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.
Starting point is 00:25:53 This is the Herdline News. We're going to start with the big Monday night game. They're calling it the Super Bowl rematch. Super Bowl revenge game, Eagles, Chiefs. I didn't know this stat. Jason Kelsey is 0 in his career against his brother and the Chiefs. Never beaten Travis.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Kelsey says he won't use the Super Bowl revenge angle, though, as motivation. I'm motivated to win the game. I don't need the Super Bowl to motivate me to beat my brother or Andy Reid. and, you know, I've never beat them in my career. I'm more motivated maybe by that. But, you know, I don't buy into Super Bowl revenge games or, you know, each season is different.
Starting point is 00:26:33 This team is not the same. That team is not the same. Nothing that goes out there and happens on Monday night is going to at all change or make anything different about what happened last year. I love Philadelphia. All right, we'll go head to head Monday on the show. I love the Eagles. I love Ohio State to lose to Michigan in eight days, and I love the Chiefs to dry up in the second half, and Philadelphia pulls away.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Interesting. So I don't know if you're aware of the stat. Andy Reid is decent off of a buy. Have you heard this? Siriani. Andy Reid is 21 and 3 off a regular season by, 21 to 3 straight up, and now you're getting Mahomes under a field goal? That's interesting. So give me that a stat one more time.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Andy Reid, regular season off a buy 21 and 3. How about this? Jalen Hertz has beaten 12. straight teams with a winning record. Awesome. That's impressive. Now, I will say someone put out the number that the AFC head-to-head against the NFC this season is dominating. Now, a lot of it's
Starting point is 00:27:31 driven by the Ravens have really spanked Seattle and Detroit, but I saw 31 and 19. That's pretty impressive. Okay, that's great, but I wouldn't include Philadelphia in any NFC staff. I think there's fair. Well, there's three of those matchups this week. Chargers Packers, one other one,
Starting point is 00:27:47 and then, of course, the Monday night game. But, yeah, Listen, I like the Eagles. I just, I'm not going against Mahomes. So you like the Eagles, too? No, no, I do like them, but I'm taking Mahomes if it's under a field goal. At three, it's just to watch the game and enjoy it. But at two and a half, I got to go, Casey. Listen, it'll be a hate watch because I'm going to-
Starting point is 00:28:04 You're not going to hate watching this game. I'm going to be all worked up. How about first half eagles? They dominate first halves. Well, if they dominate the first half, they're going to blow Kansas City out. Oh, really? Didn't that happen in the Super Bowl? Kansas City's second half offense, this year is awful.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Well, it's awful. I put this theory on the podcast yesterday. Is there something to, hey, we've been to three or four Super Bowls already. We've got Mahomes the MVP. The regular season doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot to us. And they kind of just play with their food and mess around and they're saving the good plays. And they're not doing that against the Eagles. No way are they doing that against Eagles.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You can do that against Jacksonville and Minnesota and whatever. I just, it's like the regular season doesn't matter that much. This game matters. This is a massive game. Chiefs. For sure. Next up. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:28:53 Oh, Trayvon Diggs. Geez. Remember he sent out those tweets getting his brother out of Buffalo? Well, of course. Stefan Diggs was asked about the tweets yesterday. And here's his response. I'm not responsible for how other people feel. Anybody in this room for this manner.
Starting point is 00:29:10 A reporter, a player, even my own brother. You know what I'm saying? Like, I love my brother. And the space that my brother's coming from is my family. You know what I'm saying? And so you want to know how he feels, you got to take it up with him. You know what I'm saying? Like putting me in a position or me having a conversation with my brother, that's outside,
Starting point is 00:29:26 that's in-house family rules. But for me, I can't combat or answer all the questions as to why. You know what I'm saying? With people in the world and, you know what I'm saying, XYZ, like that's something you're going to have to ask my brother how he feels about it. That's a great answer. I can't control how other people feel. That's right.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I mean, if you're, we've seen this with parents and brothers. All right, my brother is in town, you know, for Thanksgiving and stuff. If he goes on Twitter and is saying, man, we got to get J. Mack out of the herd. Colin is stifling him and puts out some stuff like, what, do you think that's not probably coming from me? Like, come, of course, he's not just making stuff up. You really think Trayvon and Stefan have not talked and Stefan Diggs is unhappy and he's relayed that to him. That's a pretty good point. You like that, huh?
Starting point is 00:30:14 I'm really rooting for your brother to do that. I think he's on social media. That'd be so much fun. We get a controversy on our show. That'd be fun. I do. I'm having fun on the show, by the way. Final story.
Starting point is 00:30:27 CJ Stroud is having a great rookie season. I think he locked up the Rookie of the Year award. Last week, he became the first rookie in the last 40 years to lead game-winning drives and back-to-back games. Strout's success has led to MVP talk, which is silly, but the rookie is he's staying focused. It's been cool to be able to be in a talk, but just like they let me this week, they hate me the neck. So I don't try to look at that stuff. I try to sit even kill and just stand the straight and narrow and just work really hard and make my teammates not all of me better.
Starting point is 00:31:00 So for me, I just really want to keep getting better and better and keep that chip on my shoulder and just keep grinding. You know, this line's interesting. So Cardinals to me is the side. Five and a half. No, that's what I'm saying. it's exploded. So what, this is a weird game, because I thought the Cardinals at four and a half. I thought that's kind of the side.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Now it's up to five and a half. Somebody knows something. So this will be in headlines. We're doing it an hour early, by the way, for the auto 1040. I was going to save this nugget. You're aware of this. Where did Demico Ryan's coach before Houston? San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Right. He saw Kyler Murray plenty there, right? Yeah. You think he's familiar with what Kyler Murray likes to do? attendant. This isn't the first time you're seeing Lamar Jackson. He knows Kyler well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, kind of murky. So that is a big concern for me that, like, we saw him for years. We know how to slow him down. Okay, that's fair. It's a good call. I like that's a good nugget. I'm not on the Texans here. I don't know. It just feels like
Starting point is 00:32:03 Kyler Murray, this is kind of an interesting game for the Texans because they have big games coming up, and I could see, you know, nobody gets up for Arizona. Remember the Cowboys went to Arizona laid an egg? Yeah. Nobody gets up for Arizona. Arizona. Arizona. sneaky competitive. They were sneaky competitive with Josh Dobbs. They were. Conner's back, James Connor back.
Starting point is 00:32:22 The tight end is emerging. It feels like Arizona is absolutely the side, but that number is crazy. It's exploded in the last day. Just remember. He was a big underdog in Cincinnati, I think six and a half, six. Now he's got to win by margin,
Starting point is 00:32:36 not to buy a win by a field goal, which is what they did against Tampa at home. They can't stop anybody. Damn, I'm giving away my picks. Jay Mack. with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
Starting point is 00:32:50 The Hurd-Ly News. It is really interesting what the Big Ten did. Basically, they just said, we don't want to get sued by Michigan. Harbaugh's already sat out a game. He'll sit out two more games. It is interesting to think of Michigan. Thank God Michigan's at home. And thank God Michigan has an experienced quarterback.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Because I think if the game was in Ohio State and you had a young quarterback and Harbaugh was not on the sidelines, I'd take Ohio State to roll. But Michigan is a veteran team with 19 NFL bodies, a quarterback with a lot of starts. They're at home. Lots of inertia momentum if they blow out Maryland. So I think they'll be fine. Usually not having a coach on the sidelines against Ohio State would be problematic. But it is interesting.
Starting point is 00:33:36 J.J. McCarthy, it's the best Michigan team. They've actually got more NFL guys right now. If you look at the upcoming draft, they've got great program momentum. they're a run-oriented team, which is always helpful. Whenever there's doubt, if you can turn and hand the ball off, eat the clock, pick up four yards of carry. It's a good way to get out of controversy. Defenses and run games, as they say travel,
Starting point is 00:33:59 but beyond travel, they get you out of trouble, right? Like, you know, turn, handoff, run for four and a half yards is a good way to end a game quickly, control the clock, post-W. So it's interesting on the Michigan thing. If it was at Ohio State and J.J. McCarthy was still the quarterback, but he was like a freshman or a sophomore, no hardball, I would take Ohio State. Even with this Michigan team, I'd take Ohio State. But home, the run game, it's different.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Michigan's the kind of team that can just turn, hand the ball off, eat the clock. Ohio State doesn't get much of the football. Very interesting. Very interesting to think about. So three game suspension, he's already served one. I don't think it'll be a factor against Maryland. We'll see if it's a factor against the Buckeyes. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd
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Starting point is 00:35:52 Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
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Starting point is 00:37:42 on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith, rule of two. Listen to stuff to bowl your mind on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Tonight, prime time comes to FS1 as Coach Prime and Shadur Sanders lead Colorado in a Pac-12 battle under the lights against Washington State tonight at 1030 Eastern on FS1. Colorado season sort of fizzled out. That transfer portal thing, the three teams that were
Starting point is 00:38:12 very transfer portal reliant, USC Colorado fizzled out. LSU fizzled early. It is hard to throw a bunch of new players into a culture and say, that's great. I even say Brian Kelly and Jim Harbaugh. They won initially. But it wasn't until the end that Brian Kelly could go toe to toe with Georgia. It wasn't until the last two years, two and a half, three years,
Starting point is 00:38:37 where Harbaugh, you really felt they could play with anybody, is that when you just throw a bunch of transfer portal guys in, USC and Colorado are the most dependent transfer portal teams, after about four games, they both eroded. Good luck on just throwing a bunch of guys together. That's why you want some change. Like when the Buccaneers won the Super Bowl and brought everybody back, the Eagles did one of that one a year.
Starting point is 00:39:00 They get to a Super Bowl, bring everybody back. Don't do that. You want some new blood, new eyes, new emotion, new energy. But this transfer portal, this idea that it's this magic elixir and it solves everything, it can give you more talent. Yeah. But you, it's, you know, a team recruits a guy. then he leaves, they know the odometer.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Like they know the Rio Reit. He may have been a problem. He may not play hurt. He may be hard to coach. You can watch a tape and go, he's fast. He's good. What is he like in the locker room? Best receiver USC has right now
Starting point is 00:39:30 to meet the kid, Taj Washington, came out of like Memphis. They got him in the transfer portal three years ago, and every year he's better. It's like, nobody knew that. He came from a small call. I think it was Memphis. It was somewhere.
Starting point is 00:39:41 It's like, that kid's been a great player. He would have had, he was not Bally Hoot. He wasn't a big recruit. and you're like, that kid's great. Team player works hard, good work ethic. Feels like boom bust in the portal, right? TCU last year wrote it to the, all the way to the national championship. A lot of transfer guys.
Starting point is 00:39:56 But chemistry matters, right? We would agree on that? Yes. Big time. So it's interesting. Sequin Barkley, remember about, was it about six weeks ago, J. Mack, seven weeks ago, when the media, everything's bigger on the Internet than in real life. Like, internet controversy, there was one last night.
Starting point is 00:40:14 take a deep breath. We're all going to be fine. There was this big thing in the NFL about running backs are getting hosed and running backs. It's unfair. That's not. People for years, safeties didn't get paid and tight ends didn't get paid. An offensive linemen on the interior didn't get paid. Where's all the sympathy for that? Running backs are getting paid if they're great.
Starting point is 00:40:33 They just don't get extensions after being injured. So it was just overreaction by everybody about these poor running backs. So Sequin Barclay got a one-year contract. He wanted a long extension. And they gave the quarterback the long extension. Now, I said at the time, I wouldn't have given Daniel Jones the bag. I would have been more, I think I would have probably given Sequan Barclay a year or two more than he has right now. Because I think in the locker room, players liked him.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I think he's the best player on the team offensively. But I understand the Giants saying you're a running back, you've been hurt. But he says, loyalty says Sequin doesn't mean anything. loyalty that don't mean nothing no matter how loyal no matter how committee you are
Starting point is 00:41:16 it's a business that's something that I've learned where you're a premier back in this league not to tell me myself they feed you the ball because it helps you
Starting point is 00:41:25 give you opportunity to win games more times than not and then when it comes to contract or a certain time you're running back you're having so much miles on you it's a crazy thought process
Starting point is 00:41:35 I try my best not to think about that while I would go insane Okay, so Sequin says loyalty doesn't mean anything. He's wrong. It doesn't mean everything. Nor should it, even at your job or mine. Productivity in a salary cap business is number one. Productivity.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Sequin Barclay was drafted in 2018. Two years later, he missed 15 games in 2020. In 2021, he returned, he wasn't that good. six seasons, two great years, does not equal you get whatever you want. They gave him a really nice one-year deal, and now he's a free agent, and he'll have offers. But if you went to work for six years, we're great in two of them. You don't get the contract you want. The company gets the contract they want.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I mean, for God's sakes, the New York Giants benched Eli Manning. They can move off a running back. and there is a basic rule in the NFL. It's NFL GM 101. Do not extend older running backs who've got injuries. That's like the easiest rule in the book. There's probably 15 to 20 things NFL GMs all sort of know you shouldn't do. Sometimes you break a rule because you get trapped.
Starting point is 00:42:55 And I'm not saying running backs don't have value. Austin Echler absolutely value for the Chargers in short-yarded situation. Sequin Barclays, terrific. Six years, two great ones. is not getting everything you want. I mean, look at the Ravens, Mitchell. Keaton Mitchell, that kid, they have that rookie. Isaiah Pacheco for the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Moster, who's bounced around the league. Now he's with the Dolphins. There is running back talent everywhere. Fifth round, six rounds, seventh round. So people confuse loyal team means nothing with, no, it just doesn't mean everything. And when you run a football team in a salary cap business, you've got to make decisions.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I would have given Seiquan a two-year deal, maybe even three at a reasonable number, team-friendly. I would not have given Daniel Jones the bag. That was their big mistake. And I do think Seqwan has such buy-in in the locker room among players for the Giants. You've got to know who the players respect. That's really important. Seqwan's respected, works hard. He's very good when healthy.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I like him a lot. But don't confuse. Loyalty means nothing with it just doesn't mean. ain't everything. Productivity in every workplace is the key. So Steve Kerr and the Draymond Green situation is interesting. So yesterday, you know, Draymond got a five-game suspension. And Steve Kerr, through the years, has been very supportive of Draymond Green. But there are limits. There are limits. And after this latest chokehold on Rudy Gobert, the league came in with a five-game suspension, and here's what Steve Kerr had to say.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I mean, that's inexcusable, and so we have to do everything we can to give him the help and the assistance that he needs to be able to draw that distinction between being, you know, an incredible competitor, which he's always been. That's why he's in the position he is. That's why he's the player he is. But he can't cross that line. And he crossed it the other night for sure. So we don't expect Steph Curry to hit even 50% of his shots.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Why do we think Draymond Green should be perfect as an enforcer? He plays with physicality and anger, intensity, and urgency. Sometimes it's not perfect. It's like the A-List comedian, Dave Chappelle, Ricky Jervais. About once a year they go over the line on a joke inappropriate yeah that's what artists do and we should support artists for making mistakes they push the boundaries they make us uncomfortable I don't have to agree with every Ricky Jervais Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle joke they're
Starting point is 00:45:46 artists they're comedians they push the envelope sometimes it's just uncomfortable why do we expect the enforcer to always get it right when Draymond Green gets into these situations there is chaos there is intense There's a fight. There's a battle. Had that choke hole been a second, not five, I think he gets a one game suspension. But I think Steve Kerr points it out. You give him all the tools to understand it was over the line. But we don't expect anybody to be perfect in sports. The only perfect people are internet trolls. Remember? Come on. Anonymous internet trolls, they're perfect. The rest of us aren't. But when you play with anger and intensity and your you're the catalyst of protection, whether it's a hockey guy or a basketball guy or a football guy. Those aren't perfect situations. I don't expect perfect reactions. I thought five games was just.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I defended him on the punch of Jordan Poole. Here I don't. Five games, four games is what we predicted. Steve Kerr summed it up nicely. Blazing five top of next hour. I really, really interesting weekend. The Denver game was the last game I moved off of. Can I ask if you put the jets in there?
Starting point is 00:47:06 Because there's some news here. Yes. Garrett Wilson has some hurdles to clear before he can play Sunday against Buffalo. That's according to Robert Sala recently. Hurdles. Well, if you take Garrett Wilson out of Al-Lazard, the rookie, like they don't have much and they have Zach Wilson still a quarterback. Well, that's season over, baby.
Starting point is 00:47:26 If they lose this, so four and six? Well, the AFC 4 and 6 is it's over. Yeah, I mean, it's over for the Bengals at 5 and 5. Sorry, to our producer who's a huge Bengals fan. It's over. Well, let's give it another week. Is Glass Joe coming back? Let's give it another week.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Glass Joe, come on. He's hurt all the time. Hour two next. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funny. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars. related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away,
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