The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Michigan wins the National Championship, the Bucks have made a mistake

Episode Date: April 7, 2026

Colin Cowherd reacts to Michigan winning the college basketball National Championship over UConn with a historic starting lineup comprised of all transfers. Colin explains what this shows us about modern college basketball in the NIL era He believes the Bucks have made a huge mistake holding onto Giannis Antetokounmpo after the release of an in-depth report detailing the broken relationship between the 2-time MVP and the Milwaukee organizationSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Congratulations to the Big Ten in the University of Michigan. It's the herd in Chicago, the heart of Big Ten country, wherever you may be, however you may be listening. John Middilkoff in all week. That had a football field to it last night. We said yesterday, this is going to be a hard game to it. officiate. These are easily the two most physical team. There was a point in the second half. I'm like, there's going to be blood on the floor. These guys are doing everything shy of head budding, and it's interesting. We got into this topic yesterday. Is this an all-time team? And I said, no, no, no,

it's not an all-time team. It's a very, very good team with the great coach. But they were the perfect team to finally beat Yukon. Yukon fans, grumbling about the officials. Well, that's a interesting because the Yukon style under Dan Hurley has been pounding people and bullying people. Mike Tyson and his prime bullying. But Tyson eventually met another bully, a Vanderholyfield. And last night, Yukon met a bigger bully, Michigan. Michigan had 36 points in the paint. That's the most Yukon is allowed in March or April. There's a reason they were a favorite. There's a reason they clobbered Arizona. They didn't struggle with Duke. that that's come on let's be honest in the tournament duke had yukon beat but they got young and tight

and in the tournament i mean illinois got close to yukon at the end but they fell behind early that was not michigan round one first punch bring whatever you got because we're bigger and stronger the bully of this tournament has been yukon for years and i love their style and i absolutely love their coach. But Michigan's a better team. Blame the officials. That's what people have been doing in college basketball since Dan Hurley arrived. Every time Yukon wins a title, the losing team complains about the officials. This morning, Yukon, that's you. Complaining that you got pushed around. Hey, a bully always meets its match. 36 points in the paint. And the truth about Yukon is, They don't shoot a lot of free throws.

They were 275th in college basketball all year long. Why? Because they don't initiate contact very often. They're a jump shooting team. It's like those warriors with KD on that four-year run. They were bottom five in the NBA and free throw attempts. Jumpers. Michigan's the opposite.

They initiate contact. They drive. Their size. They bang. They love it. Michigan just is a more talented version of Yukon. And Yukon, Dan Hurley, admitted this before the game. He admitted it at halftime. We have a certain way we have to play to

win. And you can see it in the first eight to ten minutes of the game. It's rugby. It's tug of war. That's the only way Yukon could win. Michigan's the opposite. Their best player was about 70%. They could not hit a three. They were brutal for the outside. So Michigan has the dexterity to go, all right, let's just pound it inside. And they did. The physical. The physical, Physicality of Michigan, they're like a great run team in the NFL. It's got a little Seahawks feel. Oh, you think the Rams are physical? You think the Patriots are physical?

You know, we'll show you physical. So I don't want to hear about grumbling fans. That game was hard to officiate. There's a reason Michigan was the favorite. I mean, if I would have told you, Lindberg did not play well. Worst game in the tournament. They only scored in the 60s.

They could not shoot all night. and they controlled the game in the second half. They're really good. Every time Yukon got close in the second half, here's Amarro with an al-Upe dunk, here's somebody racing in Johnson to slam dunk a miss, or it was just overwhelming size and power. You got to remember,

Yukon doesn't shoot free throws. They don't. All year, 275th. It's a lot of off-ball warrior action, a lot of movement off-ball. Michigan can do that, or shoot threes or pound. And they did.

So there's a versatility with most Yukon teams. There was a Yukon team years ago that had Stefan Castle and Alex Caraband was like a freshman and that team would have beat this Yukon team by 20. That team would have beaten this Michigan team. That team was an all-timer. Michigan's not an all-timer. I mean, if you look at Michigan, they had a starter from UAB. They took a non-starter at Illinois, a non-starter at UCLA.

They had a freshman and they had a guard that shot like 30% from three, the last two years in the Big Ten. They're not an all-time great team. There's been some Duke teams and Yukon teams or a Kansas team that was. What they are is a tough physical team, brilliantly coach that was built to beat Dan Hurley's style. Mike Tyson humiliated guys. And then he met his match with Holyfield and was frustrated. had to go to the biting the ear tactic. Yukon didn't go in that direction,

but you could tell him the second half. They just, they were missing a guy. We felt that the whole tournament were like, how in the hell is Yukon here? They need another Stefan Castle. It's remarkable that Hurley got him to this point, and he talked about the officiating in the game after. I just thought that the first half, you know, foul trouble, you know, really,

I thought we were positioned if we didn't have that foul trouble to potentially go into the half-time with a lead. We also, too, a problem for our team has been in this undisciplined fouling at times. But it's hard to ref that game. We both played so hard. I mean, that's not an easy, you know, game to officiate. And, you know, if I could have those three guys ref every game the rest of my career, I would sleep well at night. Listen, the other advantage that Michigan had is the Big Ten. Illinois was outstanding.

Iowa beat Florida. Purdue is always exceptional. Michigan State and Tom Izzo. I mean, for years and years, the SEC always had an advantage because they played harder schedules. 100,000 people in the South. By the time they got to the national championship, it's like, if you can get through the SEC championship, it's a piece of cake playing in the Natty against the Big Ten team. team. So Dusty May afterwards talked about the Big Ten schedule had them ready for this tournament.

We take a lot of pride in representing Michigan and with that the Big Ten conference because every year we're competing against each other. We're competing against the SEC, the Big 12, the Big East, all these other leagues. So the better we can do as a group as a league and it also helps financially as TV contracts are renegotiated and things like that. So we do, you know, we have to do well for us and the Big Ten if we want to continue to be on the cutting edge and hopefully be the Premier Basketball League in the country. He reminds me a lot of Brad Stevens. He's just a little smarter than most people in the sport. For the record, I had Michigan winning in my bracket. I'm sure many of you had Michigan winning. I watched them bulldoze Gonzaga early in the season.

Then I watched him late in the season go to Illinois and win. That's the best team in college basketball. There's a reason they were a big favorite over you. It's not about the officials. Brutal, brutal physical warfare in that game. And thanks to the families and the coaches and the networks and everybody involved, it was just great college sports again. And by the way, the Big Ten is the first conference in Division I history to have three different schools when a natty,

one in football, Indiana, one in basketball, Michigan, and one in women's basketball, UCLA. So I don't know how the NIL and the transfer portal are working for your conference, but they're doing really well in the Big Ten. The Big Ten has always been their alumni, smart, affluent, and strategic. And the Big Ten has always taken great pride in their academics. And the new model in college is not just about, hey, we got a bunch of really good athletes in our geographic footprint. That's not what it's about.

Have you noticed that program in the SEC that was top 10 in football and basketball and had a Heisman finalist last year? And you don't normally see that from this school. It's Vanderbilt. The best academic power in the South. And their graduates make almost double the average SEC graduate. That's the new reality. That's the new model. It's not that the other way was bad.

it was an advantage coaching football at Texas or Georgia. That was awesome. Still awesome. But this model pays the players, and this model benefits universities with very affluent alumni. And the Big Ten has huge schools, excellent academics, their graduates make a lot of money. And outside of Chicago, not a lot of great jobs in the Midwest. they go to L.A. and San Francisco and Seattle and Tech and Miami and New York and Boston and Philadelphia, and they come home and give money to their great institutions.

It's the new model. I'm not saying it's perfect. Indiana, though, is a top eight business school. Michigan's got one of the biggest endowments in the country. The new model, and this is sort of how it should work with universities and stuff, benefits those who take academics, what, seriously. I love seeing Vanderbilt kick arse. I love it. I think it's great. They're building a new football facility at Northwestern. They hire Chip Kelly. They got Rick New Isles kid. It's like they're flush with cash. Let's see what happens. It's like AI. It's not going to be perfect. It's going to be bumpy. That's the NIL. But you can grumble about it and convince yourself the sports are broken. But I just watch the best national championship in

college football, I think I maybe ever saw. I saw unbelievable dedication, coaching, passion last night. How about UCLA women's basketball? Oh, were they 71 and 4 over two years? So you can grumble about it, but the train is moving with or without you. Congratulations to two great institutions last night. You can grumble about the officials all you want. That's what people have been doing for years that Yukon tramples. I mean, we couldn't get a call. No, you weren't willing,

round one, step up, and exchange blows in the middle of the ring. Yukon did, Michigan did. But eventually Michigan's talent end of the first half pulled away. All right, good stuff. We got all sorts of stories here. The,

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to. They kept Billy Donovan, who I'm a huge fan of, and strongly lobbied to go to UNC. I have this theory that basically UNC offered him the job, and he said, well, the transfer portal starts today. And yeah, I'm not going to do that. And then he went to the Bulls and said, can we make some changes? That's just my theoretical take. But I'm a huge Billy Donovan fan, and they needed to make the moves they did. But what's interesting about the Bulls, they're a cash cow. If you take out, Every non-COVID season since 2010, everyone, they've led the NBA in attendance every year. Chicago loves basketball. Loves basketball. Chicago's been voted Best City of North America, nine straight years, Condé Nas Traveler Survey. Middle of the country, beautiful people, restaurants, beaches, skyline, great arena, cash cow, jammed to the rafters. Yes, I'm a bull season ticket holder. Great arena.

great food choices. It's awesome. And the city loves basketball. And the Bulls over the last 15 years have butchered it. How? I don't know. I mean, they haven't won a single playoff series in 11 years in the East. Forget the West in the East.

And my takes always been, choose a direction. Tank or go all in. But yet, over the last decade plus, they're right in the middle of the pack. They're like the 16th winning his team. They're in NBA quicksand slash purgatory. And they're a cash cow. Ryan's Dorsf's never going to sell it. You got this beautiful city.

When they went all in, they were the NBA's Dodgers, Rial Madrid, and Manchester United. They were the symbol of greatness in America. When they had a legitimate GM, I would get on the phone. I would call Bob Myers, Brad Stevens, Eric Spolstra. I would call Steve Kerr. I would call Sam Presti. I would call the top of the market. 75% of the GMs and coaches in this league

are either, would rather upgrade or live in a better city and live in an arena that was jammed every night. They are a cash freaking cow. They can be playing Orlando on a Tuesday night. You can't get a ticket. And so their question has been, what's the plan? What are you doing?

because usually in the NBA you got like a Sacramento or LeBron's banging on Memphis or you've got a market that's not that appealing and nobody wants to play here or there. I don't want to pick on markets. That is not the issue here. That's not the issue. Money is not the issue. Your ownership's stable. They're going nowhere.

But I think you've got to get hyper-aggressive. I think you've got to call the best people in the market and make offers. I mean, again, the last time they had an elite coach and elite GM. they were North America's standard. Go look at the Patriots Robert Kraft. He didn't mess around. Go find your Elliot Wolf and your Mike Frable. Go find them.

The NBA can be hard. It's hard to make trades anymore. I think Adam Silver has made it much too hard to make trades. You cannot get good overnight. But the funny thing is, the Bulls are always like, okay. But I always had this theory in sports that it's not. that difficult. Very early when Brad Stevens took over, coach and GM, you could see the plan. I used to watch Nick Saban and Alabama. I can tell within one series, same with Belichick and

Patriots in their prime. I can tell within a series or two what Belichick thought could beat him and he was going to take it away. Or what Saban thought, okay, we're going to have problems with this. We're going to attack this and take it away. You can see great coaching. It jumps through the television. You can see great GMing if you pay attention. Last 11 years, it's not that they've been terrible. They've won like 45% of their games. They should probably be awful for a year or two. Whatever you've had three different head coaches. I'm a Donovan believer. Maybe you know, I am a Billy Donovan believer. I'm a Bulls believer. And I'll just throw this out there. whatever city I've moved to in my life, the teams get really good really quickly.

I moved to the Midwest. The Big Ten now is just stomping everybody like a narcot of a bikers rally, babe. And I'm telling you right now, Chicago is just waiting for the right people. It's just humming. And I mean, a lot of these cities, you're like, well, nobody wants to play there. It's too cold there. The arena stinks. the same owners forever cash cow take big swings and pick a lane and find a direction

john middle cough with the news turn on the news this is the herd line news well Colin tell me if you've heard this one before an NBA MVP candidate injured we have another injury in the NBA last night, Victor Wembe Njama collided with Paul George. He went to the locker room. He ended up coming back to the bench and reentered the game before asking to be subbed out. Here's the Spurs head coach on the injury. I know he came back and he just didn't finish until I have time.

I was told he wasn't coming back and I honestly, God, I haven't heard anything else up to this point. I think it would be a positive that he felt like he could come back and he played the last four or five minutes of the half. So that's a positive for my perspective. but I'd have nothing. Well, you know, now you have these these game

levers that you basically have to play so many games to win awards. So every time you have a late season injury with three weeks to go with a really top player might take as always, how many games does he have? Has he hit the number, the line of demarcation? So, I mean, I think it's pretty obvious if you're the

spurs, you view yourself as a championship team and you want to get him right. or you're not. You could be, I mean, honestly, without him, he is so transformative without him in a big playoff game. It's not the same team. They're not the same defense at all without him. Well, and they obviously have no chance if they play the Nuggets

who just passed the Lakers last night to now be the three-seat. That's who they would play in the second round. If Wembe and Yama had to miss any time, they would be done. He has to play one more game to be eligible for the award, so you check him in. Yeah. He has a lot of those games this year. They've done a good job.

like 21 minutes. Yeah. He'll play like 25 minutes to score like 30 points and 20 rebounds to take him out. You're like, what is going on here? The NBA just has to find a way to the top 7, 8 guys just got to be on the court. I don't know what's happening here. Well, let's move to the NFL because this story, obviously Puka Nakua became over the last couple of years one of the best players in the entire league.

Reports indicate that the Rams will not sign Puka though to an extension until he's shown that he's matured enough to stop. the off-the-field issues. Yep. Some have even suggested that the Rams are significantly more worried now than four months ago. Yep. Probably, I mean, he's in rehab right now as we speak. I do think, Colin, the JSN contract, if you watch the press conference, Mike McDonald

and John Schneider specifically, we're not just signing the player. We're signing the person. And his parents did a great job. Yeah, we, John, I had a rant on this about a week ago, is that at that position, there is a history of high maintenance. Don't know why. I'm not a sociologist or a psychologist, but that position,

I mean, you don't have a lot of guards that give you trouble. There's not a lot of veteran running back so you can't trust. It could be Tyreek Hill, it could be Pooka. There's just a lot of drama at that position, George Pickens. And so when it flares up for any team at that position, the first thing we all do and GMs do is, all right what's our what's our draft capital like i can tell you this is that and puka's brother had an incident and pukas had several this is it you're just hearing about the stuff

that that gets out that there's always a chance there's more we don't know that but you know i always you know i've talked about this before if you see a couple arguing at a party that's what you see in public what's the drive home like i'm just seeing too many things for puka that's just what I hear about and see. So I think the Rams do not mess around. They let great players go via injuries or immaturity on a regular basis. Well, and think about their, you know, there are a couple core guys over the years. Aaron Donald, total package on and off the field. Stafford and golf, you couldn't ask for anything more. So once that JSN number came out, which was astronomical, they gave him $120 million guaranteed. Puka had to get ahead of this

because his life was spiraling. I also think we're too quick to go, extend him, extend them. Why can't we ever play anything out anymore? If I'm the Rams, one, I could never copy and paste that contract. Even if he comes out, it feels like we've got to have some time. Let's play it into the season. Maybe even the off season. And if you show, we got no problem doing it.

You're a great player. But that's a lot of money to invest in someone that you have any questions with off the field. I mean, ask yourself this. Occasionally, you will see a great player drop in the draft. Yeah, that's all the time. Like, I could name five receivers. You're like, how did they end up in the fifth or sixth round? When Puka came out of the fifth round and literally it was the like, day one at practice,

Stafford's like, oh my lord, it did make me think recently, was there stuff out there? I didn't hear about it pre-draft, but he's so gifted and so good. You're going to tell me every team in the league passed four times? Like, it does, all this stuff now becomes fodder, and it becomes. fair game because you're getting in trouble and we're all sitting there because, you know, teams aren't going to give you the inside details. So in our business, it's like, how did he drop to the fifth round? You start looking at people close to him and you're like, I don't know if I wouldn't, I could not right now today in good conscience as a GM, I could not resign him.

I couldn't. And I don't think they're going to you. But I also think there's been some conversations. Could they trade them? They're kind of all in this year. They just traded for McDuffie. This could be Stafford's last year. I don't think it trades an option. The other thing is his value I mean, what's a guy, I understand he had 129 catches. He is currently in rehab. That's not exactly screaming two first round picks. Right. So they're

kind of in this spot. Let it play out. Let's see if he can mature. Devante, super high character guy. I think ideally hey, Devante, can you kind of even do more? I mean, it's a lot to ask of you. I know we just might have traded you for A.J. Brown. AJ Brown and Puka might have been a lot in that wide receiver room, so they might have

avoided disaster there. Speaking of the NFL and just polarizing individuals, a big report came out about Jalen Hertz. Nick Foles chimed in. He knows a thing or two about Philadelphia. And, you know, one thing he mentioned is he went through a lot of different play callers. And he saw it with Carson Wentz. And he talked about the challenge of guys coming in and out.

But, you know, I think there have been a lot of parallels with Hertz and with Russell Wilson. And obviously a couple of the play callers got head coaching jobs, Kellen Moore, Shane Steichen. some of them got fired too. And that's sometimes on the quarterback. Not a lot of offensive coordinators got fired for Tom Brady and Peyton Man. Usually when you're a great coordinator, those coordinators become Matt Ryan, Kyle Shanahan, boom, they vault you. So sometimes that's on the quarterback.

But this situation, I've lived in that town. They're always a big story. I think this is one of the biggest stories going into the year. And, you know, Siriani, who has this great record, is in a weird way kind of tied to this. this goes wrong you know jalen's obviously his job would be in trouble but but seriani could get tied to it well john as you know defensive head coaches the offense with their team is often tied to the coordinator because they don't have the offensive sensibility right yeah um but usually offensive coaches mcvay reed shanahan whoever the coordinator is it doesn't really matter you you know i mean

Andy Reed, McVeigh, most like Kevin O'Connell, he's the head coach. That's why I've always like higher offensive coaches. There are some great guys, but like Mike McDonald and Seattle's a great defensive coach, but he loses Kubiak. Now you roll the dice and hope you can find

at least a guy close to his good. And so what bothers me about Siriani, it's always been my problem. He's an offensive head coach, yet totally dependent on his coordinator for offensive success. That's not an elite coach. He has an elite record. But Andy Reid could have BNAMI.

He could have, I mean, he could have six different guys in the NFL. Matt Nagy. It doesn't matter. Siriani is too dependent as an offensive coach on his offensive coordinator. And I think Mannion's going to be good. My guess is they get it right this year. That's my guess. But I, listen, as you've said, Bill Parcells used to say, as when he was coaching the giant,

that's not nearly as tough as coaching the Eagles. It's different. I think one huge problem with Jalen Hurts is, and this happened with Russell Wilson, remember, he didn't want to move anymore. He just wanted to play from within the pocket. Jalen's great attribute. He's a good deep ball thrower. He's a great runner.

Not like Lamar Jackson fast, but he can turn into a running, but he doesn't want to run. That's right. So it's like he's a dual-threat quarterback that took the duel out, and I'm just going to play a pocket. Well, you're not a great pocket quarterback. Part of that article, that article was not about, you know, him screwing around at night, coming in tired. It was all about football, and he just, he'll change the play because he wants to throw a go route and not against the 49ers in that playoff game. They could have run quarterback, draws, and powers. The Niners would have had no chance, but he refuses to run that.

And I think what makes a great player, you could have told Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, we are going to call a run play every single play for the next 10 games. If it worked, they would have no problem handing it off. They'll do whatever. If you ask Andy you read about Patrick Mahomes, he'd say he will do whatever it takes for us to win. Jalen and this happened to Russell, I'll do whatever it takes for us to win as long as I'm doing what I wanted to do. And that becomes a problem. Okay, great example. Kyler Murray.

He got tired of getting hit. Russell did. Jalen did. Michael Vic told me this one time. He said, for the first two years, I love running. End of the third year, I got smoked. I didn't like running as much. It was still a weapon.

And the reality is, is, and we've said this before, John, Russell Wilson got a lot of guys drafted. What we know now between Tua and Hertz and size matters. 6-2 should hopefully be the floor with offensive linemen now on a regular basis at 6-7. I agree. The thing I would say with Jalen, though, as a runner, I was around Michael Vick, he could be, because he was so fast and explosive, a little reckless in the open field, if you watch a lot of Jalen's runs, he's natural at getting to the sideline.

He doesn't take a lot of big hits. His runs are actually in a weird way kind of safe, but he wants no part of it. Yeah. John with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lines. You know, it's funny John mentions this because I think a lot of what Jalen Hertz is saying

is I've been doubted my whole life because of my size, and I'm going to prove to you guys, I want to be a pocket quarterback, and I get that. I mean, it almost be like, if you had a great singing voice, and you could act a little, but you were, you know, you knew you could act longer than sing, and you're like, hey, I can act. And you weren't bad at acting, but you weren't great at acting. What you were great at is singing, right? And I think Jalen's like, yeah, I know I can run.

But in the end, I've been doubted my whole life that I'm a pocket guy, and I'm going to prove you guys wrong. And I think, to John's point, to his detriment, I think part of every quarterback has a secret sauce. Everybody's got a thing. There's no perfect quarterback. And I think to John's point, Russell and Jalen Hertz, Russell because of his baseball background, never took shots. It just slid perfectly. Kyler Murray, baseball background, great slider. And I think Hertz is kind of trying to prove a point more than when.

Remember a couple of years ago? And I think Ryan Day is a great coach at Ohio State. I think Ryan's amazing. but there's one game with Ryan Day that he outfought the room. They played Michigan, and they were favored, and they were better.

And Ryan wanted to prove a point is I'm not going to let Michigan push us around. It's like, Ryan, win the game. Don't worry about all that. All the headline stories the next day. And it was the one time I watched Ryan Day, and I've heard critics for years,

and I'm like, he's a great coach. That game, I thought, you're letting, you're getting distracted, by the mission. The mission win games. Lean into your strength, avoid your weakness, find their flaws, make them play left-handed. And I think that's hard. I think it's easy for me to say, but it can be hard as a coach or a player when you're also trying to create a culture, make a point. There you go. Coming up next, we often say aggressive wins. And this is a franchise that's got some really smart people and ownership in the front office.

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Pro football in the spring. Week two wraps up with the St. Louis Battlehawks against the Dallas Renegades. Tonight at 80 Eastern on FS1. It's going to be 70 degrees tomorrow. Chicago Bulls, why don't you invite some people up here for the next few days? Weather's going to be good. Boats are going to be sailing. So about three years ago, we talked about this.

The Bucks had a title with Janus. He'd had an injury or two. and there was rumblings not so private that he was not necessarily satisfied with the roster. And I said at the time, once a star starts grumbling, get on the phone, then now, that afternoon, skip lunch, make calls. Because when word gets out, you're going to lose value. Well, I'm reading a story by Shams this morning in detail about the Janus Buck's relationship. He apparently told them more than once.

I'm ready to be moved. And they haven't made the move. And my question is, well, what's his market now? Adam Silver has created a league where it's hard to acquire Yonis. And the league's never been more three-ball-centric, and he's not a perimeter player. So you'd like to put him on one or two teams, but he needs the ball. He can't shoot from the outside. He's now in his 30s.

I mean, even last year he was, what, 30 a game up there in the MVP voting? Bigs age fast. People aren't built to be seven feet tall, right? It's hard. I mean, you see injuries, you see clotting. It's difficult. And he's a nice guy, he's a remarkable player. But three years ago, I mean, three years ago, you were hearing, I'm not quite sure if this is it.

Get on the phone. And I think Milwaukee's done a remarkable job to make their downtown attractive, 5.5 billion. It takes cool city. The arena's great. The ownership is smart. But I've got to be honest with you, I think they kind of fumbled it. And this is just the way life works, right? The new five years ago, you could have traded him four years ago, three years ago.

The new CBA, trading is hard. It's not in baseball. It's not in football. It is hard to make trades work in the NBA. And, you know, the warriors would love to have him. They can't pull it off. What are they got to give him? I mean, what are the matching salaries?

I mean, I don't know how they do it. So I think this is a classic example where aggressive wins, preemptive wins, don't react, act, and I think they fumbled it. And I have a connection. The bucks aren't a bunch of dummies. I mean, the organization, much better. They're north an hour of Chicago and been a much smarter organization for most of that time. But it's just life business. if somebody's grumbling and they've got a market,

you think the grumblin's going away? I mean, you knew you had limitations on what you could get him. The dame Lillard was a swing, but we all knew. We're like he's a defensive liability. He's older. He's diminutive. You can work him on the defensive event. That wasn't the answer to anything.

Okay, so I saw this yesterday. Michael Mulvahill, he works for Fox. It's a very popular company. And he said, total viewing first week of baseball, up 54%. So I don't get too caught up on the rating stuff. I mean, everybody's telling you their ratings are up. But I will say this. There was about a six to seven year period where major league baseball, as we all had our iPhones, we're getting more frenetic and caffeinated, baseball was plotting and slow. And attendance was doing this and ratings were doing this for about six, seven years.

And college basketball had become a one and done factory. You never know who the players were. But yet baseball due to tweaks and college basketball due to the NIL are now great watches and those sports are on fire. And over the course of that six, seven years when the NBA could have pulled away, they got paralyzed by dynasties and have now made it virtually impossible to make big trades. And the best team in the league, and this is no knock on Oklahoma City, is the thunder whose best player is six foot six, non-vertical, living. on 17-footers and flopping. I'm sorry.

I think he's a great kid. I think he's a great player. It's not that captivating. So, and, you know, I'm not going to go over the internet and tell you what rating means what. Here's what I know. Baseball is not afraid of the Yankees and the Dodgers and the Phillies crushing. You know who's in first place in baseball right now?

Milwaukee, Cleveland. The small market reds are really good again. And low-budget Miami's crushing. And so are the Dodgers and the Yankees. And that's okay. And big market Washington's a mess. It's okay. And the big market Mets are good, but they'll screw it up probably.

You know it, Met fans. So you can tell me how great the NBA is. But over the last week, here's what I know to be true. Friday night, five NBA games, the average score was a 24. point spread because of the tanking issue. A story came out yesterday. The salary cap is expected to be lower than projected amid the media revenue dip. Oh, I thought everything was rosy.

Or John Hollinger put this out on social media, and this was a, this was bad, that they went to ABC, ESPN, NBC, Peacock, Prum, all the NBA networks. Only 32% of the time in the big network games of the week. did the stars play? That is your problem not tanking. Shohei Otani, who pitches and bats with a schedule that's twice as long as the NBA and plays outdoors in the summer heat, misses about five games a year. If you go to a Dodger game, Shohei Otani is playing. If you go to a Laker game, a warrior game.

You have, you got no idea who's playing and who isn't. That was Tom Haberstrow, not John Hollinger, my bad. The point being is, I'm seeing that 32% number, bad, the salary cap lower than project. Hell, the NFL salary cap comes out every year. It's like 20% higher every year. It's a rocket going in one direction. You see those Friday night games, the largest margin of victory on a day with at least eight games in league history. stop telling me everything's great.

It's not. There was a seven or eight years, six or seven year period, however long it was, college basketball was increasingly unwatchable. Regardless of what everybody was telling you, it was a one and done factory. You never knew who was staying, who was going. Now guys are staying. It's older. The quality is better.

And baseball was slow and plotting. But this is what I've said before. You can keep telling me something. But I'm seeing the, there's all sorts of signs. last week was like the drip, drip, drip, drip, drip in the NBA. Bad news, bad news, bad news, bad news. Cross your fingers on Wemby's injury. That's all I've got to say.

I want to go back to Michigan winning the national championship is that we said, I said yesterday, I believe this. If Michigan shot well, they could beat them by 12 to 15 points. Michigan did not shoot well. Well, because Yukon is a relentless defensive team. But there's a reason that Yukon was an underdog is that Yukon really was missing

an elite player. A couple years ago they had four of their five starters were NBA guys. Caraband was a freshman. That Yukon team was one of the best I've ever seen. That rivaled those Billy Donovan Florida back-to-back championship teams.

Length, guard play, coaching, toughness, could beat several different ways. They could pound it inside. They could hit shots. So this Yukon team, by Yukon standards was just marginally talented. I had them losing to Duke. They were outplayed by Duke, and Duke's really young and got really, really tight.

But most of that game you felt Duke was better. You never watched a single game in this tournament that you thought anybody was close to as good as Michigan. I watched multiple games this year with Yukon, one against St. John's. I'm like, I'm not sure they were that much better than St. John. They got whacked by Marquette. I mean, they were a good team. Don't get me wrong. It's March.

It's Dan Hurley. But this group of players for Yukon, they overachieved. I don't think anybody would deny that. Previous Yukon teams would have dragged this Yukon team. Here's Hurley. To play to the last, you know, to be one of the last two teams standing, I know a lot of people talk about, hey, it's better off losing the first game in the Final Four than losing in the championship.

That is the biggest bunch of, it's the biggest bunch of crap of all times it's such a bullsh stuff stuff it is i mean it's like this is where you want it to be yeah and it's it i thought last night's game was what you would call inevitable is that michigan's best player had his worst game in the tournament he wasn't you could he said it half time he's like i'm out of juice they could not hit threes even open ones they couldn't hit. And they had that burst at the end of the first half and you're like, okay, that's Michigan. They're going to do that about two to three more times. They did. They took a lead. They never looked back. Nick writes around the corner. It's Tuesday.

Come on, Bulls, take a swing. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick.

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