The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Mike McCarthy & Aaron Rodgers may still work, taking a look at Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

Colin Cowherd discusses the Steelers decision to make Super Bowl Champion Mike McCarthy their new head coach and why McCarthy has a better resume than people give him credit for. Colin looks at both Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, why they are facing serious challenges going forward and why their Super Bowl hopes are beginning to fade.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Friday. This will be the best Friday show pre-Super Bowl week I've ever had. I really believe that. I honestly, what happened in the NBA night last night was unbelievable. What's happening with a couple of the young stars, unbelievable. I love today's show. You know, so I got to, I didn't know what I'm about to tell you. But I have a couple of young hipsters on the staff, and they informed me this morning. And I thought this had a sports connection. that the Android phone actually has better technology than the Apple iPhone. But the Apple iPhone has better marketing and branding, and what will happen is, you know, this happens in tech.

Apple will, you know, maybe borrow a couple of the Android widget features, and a couple years later, you'll be like, oh, man, Apple's phone's the best. And Android users are like, yeah, we've been doing that stuff. We've been doing that stuff years ago. So I was told, hey, don't shoot the messenger. The hipsters tell me that Android phones have better widgets, gadgets, features than the iPhone. iPhones got better branding. And I saw a story this morning, late yesterday actually, that Mike McCarthy, the Steelers,

hired his old offensive line coach, James Campan, who Aaron Rogers loves, to go with him to Pittsburgh. They're trying to transform this offense. And I think a lot of Mike McCarthy's problem, like Android, is the marketing and branding. I mean, you hear people say, Pete Carroll, he'll get Hall of Fame votes. Well, Mike McCarthy has the same playoff record as Pete Carroll and a better regular season record. And McCarthy's only been canned once. Pete's adding them up. I mean, Mike McCarthy 12 times has had a top 10 scoring offense.

Pete Carroll doesn't have that. So he is a good coach. There's no question. And he wins a lot of games, and his team score a lot of points. So I think hearing this news, I said this. It feels a little uninspiring. He's older. He's a Pittsburgh guy.

But I think he's a good coach. And Pittsburgh did just go 10 and 7 with an organization and a head coach that felt kind of the last six, seven years, toned after offense. And remember this. Mike McCarthy, when he just, joined Green Bay. You remember Brett Farve was like 36 years old, led the league at interceptions, Packers were bad, they hired Mike McCarthy. What happened? Farv was back to being a pro bowler, and I think he made the NFC championship. So it's like Mike McCarthy makes quarterbacks better. In fact, Ian O'Connor, who wrote a book, a great book on Aaron Rogers, Out of the Darkness,

must read. The first couple of chapters are his family's history, Aaron's family's history is amazing. he says when he did all this homework for the book, he says, Aaron Rogers and Mike McCarthy, don't believe it. It'll work. Their relationship is better now than it ever was when they were together in Green Bay. And Rogers said to me, listen, we did buttheads. But at the end of the day, we lit it up for a lot of years.

And what people forget is Mike McCarthy changed Aaron Rogers' entire style of play. When he got him out of Cal, he was very robotic. he had the ball back at his earhole, and McCarthy loosened him up and made him a more athletic player and really helped develop him into an all-time great and never gets any credit for that. So what is the ceiling for this partnership? Probably 11 and 6 at best, winning a playoff game.

Okay, they were 10 and 7 last year, and they weren't great offensively, but they won the division, and they'll be better. offensively. It's just certain the android. Mike McCarthy. I always said Stephen Soderberg is a director in Hollywood. I love

all his films. The Limey. Oceans 11. Aaron Brockovich. Sex Lides and Videotape. Traffic is one of my 10, 15 favorite movies of all time. He doesn't get mentioned a lot. He's got one Oscar. Mike McCarthy's got one Super Bowl Trophy. Like some people,

and I don't know why it necessarily is, I just watched Black Bag, Stephen Soderberg. I don't go to the theater anymore unless it's impossible. I do not go to the theater. I literally was sitting on my couch. The staff laughed at me. I look, oh, Stephen Soderberg's got a new movie. Boom, went and watched it.

I was like, came back on my best movie I've seen of the year. Black Bag. Love it. Spy thriller. Unbelievable. So, like, I don't think it's as good as John Harbaugh may be to the Giants, but McCarthy's record in John Harbaugh's resume. They look like they're mirror images

of one another. We think this, of Harbaugh, and then Mike McCarthy's like, I don't know. I don't know if it works. You know, the Harbaugh name is obviously very powerful, and it should be. But when I saw the hiring of the Green Bay offensive line coach to Aaron loved and McCarthy loved, I'm like, okay, here's the transition to finally getting an offensive coordinator that the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers loves and has worked with. It's like, oh, that's a real thing. That's a real thing. When Robert got the job of the Titans, it's even better that Brian Dables is the offensive coordinator.

I'm like, oh, that will work for sure now. The Pittsburgh thing has grown on me. So this week, very interesting, Josh Allen, we've had a lot of people crying this week, and we've had a lot of emotional people, getting jobs, getting let go. Josh Allen got very, very emotional this week when Sean McDermott got fired. Reportedly, it was a very emotional time. I don't know if people know this. In the last 40 years, that's four decades, that's a long time.

Every quarterback that's won an MVP in the last 40 years has won a Super Bowl, except Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. And I was thinking about this this morning. Both now are massive cap hits, limits the roster. Both now have head coaches. It's very realistic. The coaches now they have are not as good as the last guy. I mean, Sean McDermott won 66% of his games.

Okay, that's really high. And John Harbaugh's got a winning playoff record and a Super Bowl trophy. Do we think Jesse Minter will be better than that? I don't know. Do we think Joe Brady will be better than McDermott? And both quarterbacks now not only have massive cap hits, we just saw Josh Allen in a boot, and Lamar Jackson has been hurt several times.

So he's a little bit injury prone. And then here's the other thing. So if I had to bet today, is Lamar Jackson going to get to a Super Bowl? My bet today would be, no, I don't think he will. And I'm a huge fan. And if I had to bet, will Josh Allen get to a Super Bowl? It would be yes, but he would be an underdog, and I don't think they would win because of his cap hit. Because just in the AFC, forget the fact that Drake May and Bo Nix both have a top five coach in the league, an established winning coach.

but both Drake May and Bo Nix have tiny cap hits for the next three, four years. So those Denver rosters, those New England rosters are going to be baked. They're going to be fantastic. Better than Buffalo for sure. And then my question is if Josh Allen gets to a Super Bowl, well, the NFC has many of the best GMs, Seattle and San Francisco and L.A. and Philadelphia and Detroit and the Rams

and Tampa Bay and Green Bay. So if you get to a Super Bowl, you got to get past Sean Payton and a stacked roster and Mike Vrable in the stacked roster, Jim Harbaugh. Then you get to the NFC with more stacked rosters. Here's Josh Allen on the moves in Buffalo. As much success we've had over the last eight to nine seasons, we still haven't been able to get the main job done. So again, what does that look like? who's involved in those decisions of what it looks like. But I truly believe in the direction of this organization,

starting from the top. And I think that, again, whatever Joe needs for me, I'm going to do. And I think that it's the right decision for this organization. Now, there's only two jobs left. Clint Kubiak, the Seattle offensive coordinator, obviously has a Super Bowl. A couple Sundays from now, He is the leading candidate in Las Vegas, reportedly, and Arizona. I think Vegas is a better gig.

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Maybe it's because I like conflict. I'm okay with it. I don't know why it is, but a lot of times I defend people. I remember when Peyton Manning got into a really ugly argument with Jeff Saturday. And I worked at the other place at the time. And I remember saying, you've got to re-sign Saturday. Somebody's got to push back on Peyton Manning. We had the famous Josh McDaniel, Tom Brady blow up on the sidelines.

And I'm like, well Brady's got an ego no Brady's competitive and so is Josh McDaniels who I talked to this morning like these guys are fighters, they're competitive, they're intense they're talented like everybody's freaking out about like

Bo Nix and Sean Payton now Sean sometimes leads with his chin and not everybody likes him and I didn't love him talking about Bo Nix's injury and Bo Nix fired back this happened this week

What was found, though, what was a condition that was like predisposed? Because when you look at the play and you're trying to evaluate it, he said the doctor operating surgeon said that this was going to happen sooner than later. Nothing predisposed, nothing that was there originally. That might have gotten confused, but I don't think he really should share how many surgeries I've had in the past. to be honest with you, because I don't, you know, he doesn't really even know that. And nothing really that concerns me, nothing that scares me going forward. So I heard this week and read this week all over the internet,

is Sean Payton blowing up the Broncos? No, that's what Nat Hackett almost did. And the GM, who's pretty sharp almost did, giving away draft picks and paying a fortune for Russell Wilson. Sean Payton saved Denver. Saved Denver. If Bowenix is healthy, they're probably in the Super Bowl. So sometimes, you know, one of the things I love about the NFL, it's not sanitized.

It's not, it's the most popular thing on TV, but it's not a TV show. There's controversy and weird calls and people get emotional and they cry and they, it's not sanitized. head coach quarterback to me is a lot like a marriage when you stop talking that's the problem that was sort of the Belichick Tom Brady issue they didn't have dinner for 20 years they didn't you know and they would go back and forth

but at some point remember that documentary from Gotham Chopra like you know even uh you know Giselle was saying my my husband doesn't feel respected or heard like that's the problem Bo Nix wants to make sure Sean Payton's heard him and Sean Payton's a guy that leads with his chin.

So I always feel like this. And Sean leads with his chin and gets battered around. It's like, okay, like if you want to dominate your players, coach college sports. You recruit him, you control him. Go be a college coach. But pro athletes have strong opinions. Pro athletes fire back. Bo Nix is hyper intense and super competitive.

And he's going to defend his body and his brand. and Sean Payton probably heard something from the doctor and kind of ad-libbed it, and Bo Nix didn't love it, and that's okay. That's the reality of pro sports. And football's got a regulated level of violence, go sit in the sideline and listen to the language during the game. Between teammates, we just saw the Seahawks, their safety, and their corner going after each other on the sidelines.

and when they asked the Seahawk Corner about that, he's like, it's good, bro, we're all trying to get to the same place. We love each other. Any relationship that's close has disagreements. Deal with a conflict. It's not that big of a deal. And sometimes I think the people that cover the sport, they want it more sanitized. That's why even when Aaron Rogers gives me a quote, and I totally disagree with it, I appreciate the content. I appreciate the quote.

I appreciate the segment. And Sean Payton gives me segments. and I like the fact that Bo Nix pushed back, but I've seen them argued three or four times on the sideline this year. And I'm totally okay with it. I kind of like it.

Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, the Eagles announced yesterday that they have found their offensive coordinator and he is, drum roll please, 33-year-old Sean Manion.

Yes, 33. three years old. You probably remember the name. I'm fairly certain he was in the league in 2021. I mean, Colin, this is a super young guy. He will be replacing Kevin Petulow, who was a straight up disaster. Seriani is very excited about this hire. And I think part of it has to do with some of the coaches that Sean Manning played for. Are you ready, Colin? During his NFL career, he just happened to be a backup with Sean McVeigh as his head coach, with Kevin O'Connell as his head coach, with Matt Lefleur as his head coach. So he comes from that McVatry.

It's unclear as of right now if he's going to call plays or not. This guy has two years experience as a coach. He was a quarterback coach last year. That's all he's really done, Colin. Is he too young for the job? Does he have enough experience? I root for people, young people who get jobs. I've always said this.

You probably, in your first big job, could be my kids. It could be this coach. your first big job of your career, you should bail water for about six weeks. If you're ready for the job, your first job out of college or your first big job in your mid-20s, late-20s, I mean, big job. If you're totally ready for it, it's not a challenge. So I am always rooting for people that go into jobs where you're like, I'm not sure they're ready. It'll all come down to this.

How smart is he? Smart people learn stuff faster. I mean, if he's a smart guy, Philadelphia's whiffed on some coordinator hires. they've hit on some coordinator hires. You'll know by Thanksgiving. I don't expect him to be great. He's not Sean McVeigh. He worked next to Sean McVeigh.

He is not Sean McVeigh. But we just don't know. This is one of these. He could be brilliant. But Sean McBey's, he's really become one of the coaching tree guys of note in this league. And some of them have worked. And Rahim Morris in Atlanta didn't work. So who knows?

Yeah. Interesting. So he went to Oregon State. I think you have an affinity for the beavers. I do want to ask, one of your theories that you like to say is, hey, if a coach hits the open market, how much interest is there? I can't find a lot of interviews that Sean Marion had this cycle, Colin. So I don't know if this is a job that's maybe above his head. Like you said, bailing water for six weeks.

Is that going to work on a team that just won the Super Bowl? It's a good thing. It is a high scrutiny job. Like Philadelphia offensive coordinator is probably, Probably the toughest coordinator job in the entire league. I'd argue it is. Philadelphia is different. It's even harsher than New York.

I would say it's a very boom bust because right now people coming in like, what kind of place is he going to call? Well, Sean McVeigh was a coordinator at 27. You can look that up. Shanahan was a coordinator at 28. So I'm not going to, you know, again, I'm not banging on somebody because they're young. There's a brilliant 27, 28, 29-year-olds all over the country. Agree?

All right, let's move on to the Tennessee Titans. They had a really strong coaching cycle hiring Robert Sala as a head coach and Brian Dable as the O.C. Sala said Dable's history of developing young QBs was the reason he wanted him on the staff, calling him the perfect man to match up with Cam Ward and maximize who he is. You and I both love this pairing. You don't want to go overboard and say Dable is going to take them to the moon. But remember, Cam Ward was the number one overall.

pick, slam dunk. There was no debate about it. And it's very difficult. Listen, I mean, it's, and I think most fans are pretty good about this. When you don't have the right coach, coordinator, or roster, and it always feels like to me, my, at the last 10 years, I always feel like Tennessee is like skill players shy. They're like, they get the defensive line right. They've had good offensive linemen. They've had starbacks.

Good tide. I always feel like they're a receiver or three shy. Nothing. Nobody could have won last year. You could take a veteran quarterback and you would have struggled with this team. So Cam Ward's a kid. My take is this is how many games did Tennessee win this year? Not many. Three and 14. Okay. This is the easiest bet. The two easiest bets of teams in the league that will double their win total. New York Giants and the Tennessee Titans. Those are the two easiest. Now, the over, under over Vegas total is probably going to be for the Giants about seven and a half take the over.

For Tennessee, it'll probably be six. I'd probably take the over. I don't think either is a 13-win team, but I can assure you Tennessee is going to double their win total minimum. I don't disagree. Interesting that Cam Ward is not in the Pro Bowl. He did have 15 touchdowns and seven picks. Better ratio than Shedur Sanders, who is in the Pro Bowl.

Let's move on to the final story. Let's go to Kansas Indies Chiefs, Scott. We love the Chiefs on this network, although on this show not so much. But they did add Eric Bienemy as their new offensive coordinator. Now, it's technically not new because this is his second stint as the O.C. Right. He is very excited to be back with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. Here's Bionemi talking to the media.

Big Red ever picks up the phone. That's the only person that you'll say, hey, you know what? It may be time to return home. Having this opportunity to come back and be putting this chair with Coach Reed, that was just something that it's tough to pass a ball. I'm just excited and fired up about the opportunity. I feel like a kid in the candy store. Well, they got to fix their offensive line, but my guess is that that division now,

I mean, you've got a stacked roster, the Charger in Denver. You got Fernando Mendoza is going to, you say what you want about the Raiders. They're going to knock off those teams. They may finish fourth. They'll be feisty if they get Clint Kubiak, Fernando Mendoza, Colton Miller left tackle gets healthy, keep your eye on the Raiders being interesting. That division is a handful.

We've said this before, J-Mack. LeBron, he kept getting to the finals because Toronto was the second best team in the East. Sabin dominated the SEC. Then Kirby Smart got the job at Georgia, Sark from Texas. Alabama didn't look the same. Part of being a dynasty, Tom Brady had a

dynasty. Buffalo was a mess. The Jets were often a mess. I mean, Rex Ryan actually beat New England a couple times. It's part of being a dynasty is it's an easy runway. We thought Buffalo was going to have an easy path. Now they've got Drake, Mae Vrable, Josh McDaniel, Capspace. Like, Kansas City could be significantly better than last year and not make the playoffs. Because you know the Chargers with Mike McDaniel and their tackles. are going to be a different offense completely. Does this kind of not feel like, hey, man, you know, they were dating before the chiefs had to be at me,

then they break up, go in a different direction, and then you break up for that relationship, and you go back to your old girlfriend. I mean, this is kind of the same thing the chiefs had before. I don't want to say Andy Reid's running out of ideas, but Colin, at some point, don't you have to go outside of your comfort zone? Hey, we got Nagy, we got Bion and we got all our guys. If something works, it's over.

okay to go back to it. But it didn't work last year. That's the problem. They went back to old stuff. It didn't work. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm being too negative here. I know Chiefs fans get very passionate defending their team.

I think the Eric B. enemy Andy Reid relationship was very strong. They won a lot of games. Yeah, five years ago. Different time. Different roster. Different everything. I think Mahomes and Andy Reid are still there.

That's good. Yeah, yeah. No Kelsey. No, Tyreek Hill to bail him out. Huh? Huh? James. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. I've said this. I love the NBA playoffs. Regular season can be sort of long. But let me give the NBA credit. Adam Silver has finally, the league has figured it out, that college basketball is a free marketing brand for you,

like college football is for the NFL. The difference is the NFL is always understood how valuable college football is. The NBA is like, G-League, don't go to. college, go to the G League. G League is the witness protection program. Nobody cares, nobody watches it. Duke, Carolina, Arizona, Yukon, Michigan State. That is free marketing and the coaches are better than G League coaches. So Adam Silver, I think, has finally wrapped his brain around this and wrapped his arms around it. He came on our show and we talked about this. Lean into college basketball, especially programs like Duke, who furnish you with not only great players, but we all

know who they are. And this is a multifaceted rant. I could go on for an hour on this topic, but two dukies that just came out of the draft, which is a hell of a draft, have now entered the NBA and they met last night. And these kids are unbelievable. Two dukies, two Duke rookies. Cooper flags, only 19 years old. He dropped 49 points. And then Conopple is only 20. He dropped 34, both Duke guys, and they are so insanely skilled for their age. I mean, when LeBron came out, he was a freight train. I don't think he had Cooper Flagg's bag. I really don't, rookie year.

I've never seen a teenager in the NBA that is this good offensively. Both these kids are sensational. They're almost European in their skill set. They're versatile. I mean, they put Cooper Flagg at Point Guard. They put on a show last night, 149, 134. It was a great game. they're what the NBA was hoping John Morant was, but he was too immature, or Zion, but he kept getting hurt and was unfocused.

I don't know if these two Dukies can be the face of the league, but Cooper Flagg, I said it before the draft, I'll say it now. He's a better version at this age than Jason Tatum, much more aggressive, better defender. These kids are unbelievable. If you go to the last 25 games for Cooper Flag, shooting 50% from the floor average in 22.5 points a game. And they put on a clinic last night. And the other thing that really helps, college basketball went through about a 20-year drought where I stopped talking about it.

All the good players were won and done. And so college basketball is significantly better today. They've just got more good players. And what it's done, it's given, like these two Duke kids, a better training ground for the NBA. So, I mean, that Cooper flag is something else. And the other thing is, I looked this up this morning, just to give you an idea of how college basketball has changed, three drafts ago, there was only one college basketball player in the top five.

It was becoming a European draft. They had more skill. This draft, first 11 picks, all set, ours are college basketball players. And J-Mack and I have talked about this. Next year's draft, this upcoming draft, is unbelievable. at the top. The top three players could all be like high-end all-stars. And the top five players in this draft, Ace Bailey's in Utah, Edgecombe in Philadelphia, Harper and San Antonio, the kid in Charlotte, Cooper Flagg, all outstanding. But those two guys last night, I mean, it was, it was something else. Here's Cooper Flagg on his battle with a former teammate. It's incredible. You know, I, you know, I, I think it's pretty well known.

That was my roommate last year. And, you know, just to have a night like this with him, and, you know, I know how special he is and, you know, how hard he works. So it's just funny, you know, I think, you know, 10 plus years down the road, you know, I think we'll both be looking back on this, you know, as a pretty special thing. Con Caneple and Cooper Flagg. I'm looking at their rookie rankings.

Points a game, they're one and two. Rebounds a game, they're three and seven. assists a game, they're fourth and five. God, they are. It's just, you know, if you didn't watch it, go to YouTube. Both these guys are, they just, I mean, they look like they're 26, 27-year-old guys. All sorts of, I mean, Khan can literally catch and shoot. He can lead with a ball.

They both have a sense of what's around them. we thought John Morant and Zion we thought we're like, okay, this is going to be the league going forward and between injuries and immaturity, like that didn't work. I don't see that as an issue with these two guys, but it is

thankfully the NBA has finally come to terms with use and lean into Duke and Yukon and Kansas and UCLA and Arizona and Gonzaga and your Michigan State's

lean into this. The coaching's better, and it's free marketing. I get to watch these guys for two years, sometimes only one, but I get to watch them. So it's been one of the gifts of the NFL. Whether you liked Baker Mayfield or not coming out of Oklahoma, you had an opinion. European guys could be good. I haven't seen them. I don't even have an opinion. And they usually go to awful teams so you don't watch them much for the first four or five years. All right. The coaching hires, we've only got two coaches. coaching positions left will grade what we think of the coaching hires. And you're not going to believe a movie that's going to get made in Hollywood.

You're not going to believe this thing. They're talking about Sam Darnold in Tinsletown. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news.

We created our own podcast called, Hey, John's. Jonas, we invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.

So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Tomorrow on Fox, they come from all over for the 150th Westminster Kennel Club show. The nose-to-nose battle for Top Dog begins with the Master's Agility Championship tomorrow at 430 Eastern on Fox. Yeah. You say that as if you're not excited for that. A lot of people watch that dog show. I'm stoked. World Cup. Did you see the World Cup announcement came out?

That is going to chat. People aren't going to believe, not that they care. The ratings, that thing's going to get. It's just, yeah, there's nothing up against it. It's going to be like, I mean, regular season baseball, NBA finals will be done. It's all World Cup. Like, it's going to be the biggest story in sports. Have you seen how many tickets? There was a window to apply for tickets.

500 million ticket applications. 500 million ticket applications in the brief window for the World Cup. So the Raiders don't have a coach. I think it's going to be Clint Kubiak after Sunday. And the Arizona Cardinals, who are kind of a turbulent mess, don't have a coach, and I don't know where they're going. And I kind of look, usually I do grades on coaches. I don't know.

Here's all the hires. I would say this. here's my confidence. I'll give you my confidence meter on the coaching higher so far. Let's start. I am supremely confident on John Harbaugh

with the New York Giants that it will work to some level. First of all, the Giants were one and seven in one score games. Their D-line is, to me, top 10 in the NFL. Scataboo and Jackson Dart

were super productive as rookies. it's a winnable division to me. The Eagles regressed. We don't know about their new OC. Commanders are a bit of a mess right now. Cross your fingers on Jay and Daniels Health. Cliff Kingsbury left. Harbaugh's been 500 or better in 15 of his 18 seasons.

I would say I am supremely confident that John Harbaugh, I'm not promising Super Bowls, but I think they're going to vie for the division title next year. I think they're going to be a very good 8, 9, 10, win team. I really do. Okay, so I'm supremely confident in that. I am confident in Kevin Stefanski within two years getting Atlanta right. First of all, he's a really smart guy. He's an offensive coach, stable ownership. I think their O line is really solid above average. Michael Pennix, Bejohn Robinson, Drake London, Kyle Pitts had his moments last year. I think, again, Arthur Blank,

Matt Ryan, I'm interested to see his work inside the organization, another smart guy. I think within two years, I am confident that he'll get them humming. Very winnable division. Also, Titans, Robert Sala, I'm very confident in one year they will turn it around because they have a healthy quarterback Cam Ward. I think Brian Dable's a great hire at OC. Sala did it with smoke and mirrors defensively. his teams play hard and fast and are a little cocky. They have the most cap space in the NFL.

So I am supremely confident on the Harbaugh Giants hire. I am confident on the Robert Sala and Kevin Stefansky hires. Now I would go down to competent. Jesse Mentor with a good organization. That is a competency hire. I do not know he's never been a head coach. I have no idea. It's the fourth head coach in the Ravens history.

They don't move around a lot. They don't make a lot of mistakes. He's a sharp young guy. Last four years, he's been with hardball, crushed it at Michigan, crushed it. But I don't know. They have Lamar Jackson, excellent ownership. They had six pro bowlers. If nothing else, he's a very competent coach.

And I feel that way about Mike McCarthy. I think he's the offensive version of Mike Tomlin, but Mike Tomlin just finished 10 and 7 with a 42-year-old quarterback and won the division. Mike McCarthy is competent. They're not going to fall off. They've already gotten the offensive line coach that Aaron likes and Mike likes. Again, I feel like you're getting competency. Jesse Mentor and Mike McCarthy, very, very high floor.

And then let's go to this C-word concern. Let's start with Joe Brady with the bills. He's young. I mean, Brian Dable, statistically, was a little better with Ken Dorsey on the offense than Joe Brady. He did a good job with Joe Burrow and LSU. He's done a good job with Josh Allen. I have no idea. Josh Allen covers up a lot of deficiencies.

I'm sorry. He just does. I don't know. I don't. And also, it's going to be harder for him than it was for McDermott because Josh Allen's cap hit goes up. Like 20 million a year. Well, that just makes it tougher. That's one less high-end player.

The other one I'm concerned about, and I think this is pretty obvious, Todd Monkin with the Browns, was he on anybody else's coaching radar? That whole coaching search, everybody thought it was Jim Schwartz, and I think they thought Jim Schwartz would hang around if they didn't hire him, and Jim Schwartz said, no. Jim Schwartz, for the record, probably goes with Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco, go and he's going to crush. I have no idea.

I mean, again, he was nobody's top choice. The organization always feels like they can't figure out quarterback. They let Stefansky go, who's a two-time coach of the year and won a playoff game. Not a lot of people do that in Cleveland. And the third one, and I just Jeff Halfley Dolphins, they got to get a quarterback. And this is not a good draft for quarterback. So Halfley's supposed to be a sharp guy. It could work.

did a solid job at BC. I thought he did a really nice job in Green Bay, but I've never seen him as an NFL head coach. Stephen Ross, I mean, they got rid of the GM and Mike McDaniel. The GM, I thought, was a bigger issue. I don't know. I mean, it's Miami's hired a lot of coaches. A lot of coaches.

So supremely confident, confident, certainly competent, concerned. Jesse Minter was on our show this week. He says, number one, I've got to establish my own culture. I think we're going to create an identity of a really well-connected team that's tough and physical, but also that's very innovative.

We want to be really forward-thinking, schematically, in all three phases. And I think there's going to be a lot of excitement when the guys come back and really feel like we're headed in the right direction. I saw another story this morning. Drake May at 23. will become the second youngest quarterback to start in a Super Bowl. So eight quarterbacks have gotten to a Super Bowl in their second year and four and four.

So two things are happening in society with age. Older people are living longer. Boomers are living longer. There's been obviously health advances. I mean, there's more information on health. if you embrace it, you can live a little longer. People now living 79 and a half years. That's going up.

The boomer generation is also the richest generation, so that can help with health care. The second thing is happening. I believe this to be true. I think young people are savvier than I was. When I was young, there's more transparency in society. There are so many places to get information that you didn't get young people because their parents or boomers have traveled more than weed that is kids. So I think older people are living longer, and young people,

if they embrace it, are a little savier. Sometimes it works against them, but they're a little savier. And when it comes to quarterback age or age in the NFL, the league's getting younger. And I don't, to me, age is a number. I mean, Aaron Rogers, 42. He's not his mobile. Tom Brady, 44. I mean, both those guys were really good in their 40s.

Matt Stafford, I think he turns 38 here. Matt Stafford is going to win the MVP. And on the other end of the spectrum, youth, Bo Nix had 61 college starts. I think Brock Purdy, let me look it up here, had 46, Jalen Hertz had 42. These guys are starting a lot of games. College coaching's better. NFL coaching offensively has never been better. There's seven-on-seven camps.

There's private coaching. I don't think, I mean, Drake May, maybe 23. Drake May is an excellent quarterback. Probably be a little more refined next. next year, Josh McDaniel coaching for a second year, but I don't look at him as a weakness in the Super Bowl. Is he going to put up Matt Stafford performances? Well, he doesn't have Pooka and Nakua, okay?

And the offensive line for the Rams is better than the offensive line for the Patriots. I also think the Rams have better tight ends than the New England Patriots. I've said this. I think the Patriots offense needs another draft. but I don't look at him as the problem against the Seahawks. Here's Drake May talking about the experience with Vrable this year. I think he does a great job of kind of relating to us, relating to us being able to talk as a player

and now as a coach of his experiences, of his experiences winning Super Bowls, the experience of making the playoffs this first year with the Steelers. Remember we talked about in the beginning of the season, kind of talking about our stories and what kind of hopes we had. And, you know, our hopes were to win the big game and win the Super Bowl and look where we're at now and kind of all those hopes are coming into a reality.

It is hard to find anybody outside of the Dunkin' Donuts region that likes the New England Patriots, but that line's getting up to five. That's a lot of points. Seattle is the second youngest team in the league. Seattle will be a favorite. They can be at times a little reckless. They obviously, Seattle's got at this point, really,

I mean, there's not a lot of holes with Seattle's roster, but Greg Kosell came on yesterday and said, people do not understand how good the defensive personnel is with New England. They spent a lot of money in free agency. I think New England's defense is excellent. I think their skill players, backs, tight ends are above average. Hour two next.

Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.

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And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff. on this. If we didn't talk ever again, I was funny. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Mark keep coming to. He's like, you know, I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Therapy is fantastic. But once again, it does not have a monopoly on healing. That's why I create the resources and that's why I create the community because I really just want you to have more access. On the podcast, Cultivating Her Space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard.

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