The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - More drama coming out of Pittsburgh, defending Fernando Mendoza

Episode Date: February 12, 2026

After former Steeler Joery Porter calls out Ben Roethlisberger for being a bad teammate, Colin Cowherd explains why this reveals the reason the Steelers haven’t won a playoff game in 9 straight ...seasons Looking at the journeys of Drew Brees and Sam Darnold  Colin doubles down on his defense of Heisman Trophy winner Fernando Mendoza and why he’s clearly a franchise caliber QB in this year’s draftSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:23 You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Ah, here we go on a Thursday. A lot more stuff to talk about than I thought we'd have to talk about, but all sorts of things happening, the combustibility rating, the combustibility factor in Pittsburgh. We got a controversy with the Steelers. So nice to have you in today. So I can argue over the last, you know, 15, 20 years.
Starting point is 00:02:59 years, the greatest Pittsburgh Steelers is Big Ben, Rothesberger, and James Harrison's on a short list of the second best player. Great players. Well, they have podcasts, and they've gone on those podcasts over the last year or two, and been critical of Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. And by the way, their message is pretty smart. Their message, to me, was spot on. but according to Joey Porter Sr., whose son plays for the Steelers,
Starting point is 00:03:32 so he gets very emotional. Joey Porter, Sr. says Big Ben, who he calls number 7, and James Harrison broke the brotherhood. He used his brotherhood in the Arctic line reading like seven times,
Starting point is 00:03:46 so just remember that word. Here is Joey Porter, Sr. mad at James Harrison and number 7, Big Ben. Seven definitely broke the brotherhood Because like, that's the one I don't understand. The seven dude that did that we don't talk about is crazy. He should never grab a microphone and really talk stiller business.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Because if we talk in Stiller Business, his ass is foul of all foul. He's not a good teammate. Won a Super Bowl, Woody. But the person, he's just not a good teammate. Like, he knows that. Anybody in the Steeler Building knows that. But we protected him. Well, if James Harrison and Big Ben don't buy into the brotherhood, his word,
Starting point is 00:04:34 maybe the brotherhood's not that important. I also know Big Ben and James Harrison hit. When you start attacking the messengers and not the message, they're on to something. That brotherhood couldn't beat Blake Bortles at home in the playoffs or Baker Mayfield. That Brotherhood in the last 11 games against playoff teams, one in 10, averaging 15 points, giving up 28. The Steelers culture forever under Tomlin was talent and toughness. I like those qualities.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And I guess, Brotherhood. But with the Chiefs and the Seahawks and McVeigh's Rams and Shanahan's 49ers, I get the toughness and the talent too, but I get discipline and schemes like smart football. Have you ever noticed over the last 10 years as football has gotten much smarter, more motion, more deception, more looks? There are so many great coaches out there. D'Amico Ryan's, Mike McDonald on the defensive side,
Starting point is 00:05:48 McVeigh, Shanahan, offensive side. Have you noticed during that time, the Steelers have become, them less relevant. That's why I defended old guy Aaron Rogers this year. Was he part of the Brotherhood? No, he was the new guy. But the offense finally looked like grownups. Fewer penalties, fewer turnovers.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Aaron Rogers, the new guy walked in at 42. And it's like, oh, this is, despite having some limitations at wide receiver, you're like, oh, this is how an offense should function. That Steeler Brotherhood has not beaten a top 10 quarter of. in the playoffs in 15 years. And Big Ben and James Harrison called it out. Mike Tomlin, bottom 10 offense, seven years. Why?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Not innovative. Not creative. You can win with defense. Seattle did it. But a sophisticated, sophisticated progressive new approach, new looks. Not just what the Steelers do. Let's spend more money. The Steelers pass defense.
Starting point is 00:06:55 this past year, 29th defensively. How's that Brotherhood thing working? I don't know. Big Ben and James Harrison, and it takes some courage to do this, pushed back on very popular Mike Tomlin, pushed back on this organization, which keeps everything in-house. I'm not into that.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I'm about beating teams in February, in January, top quarterbacks. So, I mean, this whole thing about talent and toughness. Everybody in the NFL is tough. Everybody in the NFL has talent. You can call it a brotherhood. But if Big Ben and James Harrison are saying things they shouldn't, to me, that's the underlying problem. What Joey Porter is saying is, hey, nothing leaves house.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah, that's the problem. You don't discuss real problems. you don't put them out there. You don't take criticism well. You get stubborn and rigid, and the way we used to do it, it's the way we do it. They brought in 42-year-old Aaron Rogers. Old guy, in one-off season, he fixed the offense. To the degree anybody could fix that offense where you didn't have a number two receiver.
Starting point is 00:08:12 So I'm going to defend Big Ben and James Harrison going out and saying, there's some issues here. And some of them were Mike Tomlin. It should be noted, Mike Tomlin no longer coaches. So Big Ben and James Harrison aren't the only people that wanted to bring that up. Drew Breeze was on the show yesterday, and he was great. And it was at the end of the show. And I said, Drew, if you look at your career and you look at Super Bowl champion Sam Darnold's career
Starting point is 00:08:46 and all the turbulence you both had early, does Sam's career remind you. you drew a little of your early career all the lessons that we hope to teach our kids through sports and through team athletics and that is that you will face adversity you will face failure and disappointment and it's how you react to it that matters and while it didn't work at the first couple teams that he went to he continued to work he continued to recognize where he needed get better and learn. While it wasn't maybe the road that he would have envisioned when he first got in the league, it was meant to be.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And it's what has brought out the best in him and allowed him to play the way that he has, lead the way that he has, and also inspire others the way that he has. Drew said, yeah, when I watched Darnold, I thought of my early years. And you know what Drew briefed's comments made me think of, not Darnold. Arch Manning. All these college quarterbacks now. the minute they have a bad week or get bad news, I'm out of here. Give me a paycheck.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I'm out of here. And there are times I think college quarterbacks should transfer. Cam Ward at Washington State gets a Miami hurricane offer. You take it. Trinidad Chambliss, great quarterback at Old Miss came from Ferris State. You take that offer and go to the SEC. But Arch Manning never left. He had to sit for two years at Texas.
Starting point is 00:10:21 And then when he finally played, it was rough. He got crushed. He was bad. And he stayed there. He hung in. He was tough. And did you watch his last five or six games in the SEC? Five and one beat A&M and Ole Miss.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Or excuse me, A&M and Vandy, five and one, 20 touchdowns, two picks, 320 yards a game. He overcame. He endured. He had to sit. I watch these five-star quarterbacks. If they're not starting by their red shirt freshman year, I'm out of here. The first sign of adversity in the NIL world, I am out of here. You do understand the NFL is adversity. I mean, God, Belichick and Brady never had dinner for 20 years. Like, it can be grumpy, it can be harsh, it can be punitive, it can be tough, you can be injure, every time we bring on an NFL player who's even 30 years old, he's on his ninth surgery. So when I'm watching Drew Brees talk about Sam Donald, it makes me think of Arch Manning.
Starting point is 00:11:29 That is the one five-star quarterback that I can think of, top of mind, who could have transferred multiple times, who had to sit behind a guy, I'm absolutely convinced he's more talented, Ben, got beat up when he played, was really bad, and just hung in, head down, put in the work, didn't sulk. And at the end of this past year, it's really good. Too many young quarterbacks see adversity, and they scramble. They're just running, and they don't know where they're running. They're just running.
Starting point is 00:12:03 And I'm not saying you shouldn't transfer again. If you're at a small school and get an Oklahoma to call, you should go. I'm not saying that. That's opportunity. If you're at Ferris State and the SEC call, or you're at Cal and Indiana's got money with Kurt Signetti. Like, go. I get it.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Go. But there's a, I'm telling you, when people are banging on Archmanning and say some article was like, biggest bust ever, I'm like, about half these five-star quarterbacks, if they're not playing through one year,
Starting point is 00:12:34 they're out the door. Thanks for flying United. Get me where I can play. We're going to look back in about 10 years, 15 years, at how many of those get me out of here guys did, and my guess is, Arch Manning will be better than most. All right, J. Mack, there's some, you know, sometimes during Super Bowl week, a lot of stories get buried. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:00 The Jonathan Cominga, Steve Kerr warrior story got buried. It is fascinating what's going. That thing got ugly. I think that era's over. Real quick on Arch Manning, if the Jets have any clue how to tank. they will tank the entire season and get Arch Manning. We've screwed this up before. We had to settle for Zach Wilson instead of Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And this year we're settling for no quarterback instead of Fernando Mendoza. If the Jets want a quarterback and a future in this league, they got to tank the right way. Even if it's not Arch, it's going to be someone else. Would you agree on that? Yeah, I don't think Aaron Glenn has to try to tank. Oh, come on. You're taking shots at Aaron Glenn every day now. I mean, if you don't have an interception as a DM.
Starting point is 00:13:45 defensive coach and playing the same division as Tua, you know, I think you're tanking without trying. And that's what the Jets are doing. Although maybe, hey, maybe there's a chance that Raiders don't take Mendoza and the Jets get him in two. I mean, based on yesterday's talk, and I ran into a guy at the gym who's a big Raiders guy. He doesn't want Mendoza. I'm like, what are you talking? These people are losing their mind. It's unbelievable what's happening.
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Starting point is 00:20:10 And I always felt kind of my responsibility is to form relationships in athletic departments, form relationships in professional league, scouting departments. So I have the most informed opinions. Now, I do three hours a day, some of it's just my gut instinct or my eyes. But a lot of times if I have my strongest opinions, I remember when Tebow was on a hot streak and I was like, this isn't going to last. And I had somebody inside the Denver locker room saying, dude can't play. It's not an NFL. Don't listen to all the nonsense.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Whether it was Darnold over Baker, it was Herbert over Tua. Through the years, I've relied on scouts, often with my strongest opinions. They get backed by people in the league. So my scouting guys, sometimes there's a problem when I like a player way more than my scouts do, or I don't like a player as much as my scouts do, and that's where Fernando Mendoza. Like I like Fernando Mendoza a lot. Everybody else just kind of likes him. Albert Breer came on the show yesterday, and this is kind of the universal opinion I hear about the
Starting point is 00:21:15 who's your quarterback. Two years ago, when Caleb Williams went first, Jaden Daniels went second, Drake May went third, Pennix went eighth, McCarthy went 10th, and Knicks went 12th. The consensus I've gotten is that he would have been the fourth of those quarterbacks, so right in the middle. I think most teams like the makeup, they like how much he's won, they like the accuracy, but is he physically what, you know, say Drake May was coming out of North Carolina or Jaden Daniels was coming at LSU
Starting point is 00:21:46 or Caleb Williams was coming out of USC. He's not that. Okay, when I watch him, here's what I see. Bigger, stronger, more athletic version of Matt Ryan. That's what he looks like. Well, Matt Ryan is ninth all time in passing yards and top 10 all time and touchdown passes,
Starting point is 00:22:09 got to a Super Bowl and led 28 to 3, has an MVP season behind him 15 years for Pro Bowls. So add 30% to that. Because I think Mendoza is got, he's a little bigger, he moves a little better, and I think he's got a slightly stronger arm. So I think Matt Ryan, you can build a franchise around and get to Super Bowls with. In fact, I think largely the Falcons failed Matt Ryan. He didn't fail them.
Starting point is 00:22:42 He was a very good quarterback. So, and again, Matt Ryan Plus, I remember when C.J. Stroud came out. And everybody said, Jared Goff's his comp. And I'm like, yeah, that's an accurate comp. Jared Goff gets to Super Bowl. He got to a Super Bowl. Jared Goff's top 10, 12 quarterback in the league. That's what everybody's trying to get.
Starting point is 00:23:07 So it's interesting, though. I like him a lot. everybody kind of likes him. The knock on him is. He's not super athletic. It should be noted. Lamar Jackson is and Josh Allen is. And they haven't gotten to a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:23:20 The athletic thing we talk about, Sam Darnold's athletic. How many times did he scramble in that game? How many times did Sam Donald scrambled in Super Bowl? Couple? What he mostly did, he commanded the game, managed the game,
Starting point is 00:23:34 and didn't use his hyper-athleticism. I'll admit, Mendoza's not super-athletic. But, I mean, I think his athleticism, I don't think he's Justin Herbert athletic, but he's big and strong like Herbert. So I see a better version of Matt Ryan, and Matt Ryan's was really good, was a really good quarterback. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Let's start in the NBA, Colin, where the San Antonio's furs, the best, Team in the league. Yes, you heard that right. Best team in the league had a nice comeback to beat the Warriors. They won by 13. Ended up covering the spread despite a poor three quarters to start the game. Wemby cooked the Lakers on Tuesday and then basically filleted the Warriors on Wednesday. He and Deere and Fox combined for 53 points. Colin, this team is really on fire. They got about seven guys. They have a starting five they use, two or three guys off the bench. It's very much like Oklahoma City. You know exactly who's playing, how many minutes they're playing, this is what championship teams look like.
Starting point is 00:24:45 O KC and the Spurs. You know, when Denver won that title, they had the same thing. They had to move off guys and they've never been the same. But because they're not, you know, because right now you're not paying Wemby of fortune and you're not paying, you know, a Stathaw and Castle of Fortune is they've got their finances right, they've got draft picks, the Spurs and OKC, that's how you do it. Great GMing. keep your draft capital, have ascending players,
Starting point is 00:25:14 and Wembe is now, is Wembe moved into best player in the league? He's in that discussion with Luca, Yokic. Yokic is number one. Yonis is ever healthy. Yokic is the best player in the league. Wembe's a much better defensive player. I don't think Luca is, I think Lucas dropped down to like six or seven.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Wow. All right. So, hey, real quick, I know you're big on, this is how a championship team looks. You're right. So do you don't want to know the last time the Spurs won a playoff series, Kyle? Eight years ago? 2017, okay?
Starting point is 00:25:49 They have been garbage for the last eight or nine years. Two playoff appearances and then nothing. That's how you're able to be good now. And you've got a lot of young guys because you keep drafting high. They got Harper, who was the top early pick. They got Castle. They got Wembe Nyama. Like, that's what it takes.
Starting point is 00:26:05 You miss the playoffs or nine years. And that's what Adam's so. wants. That is the new CBA, but the Lakers, the Lakers aren't close. And the Lakers, the Lakers have tried to transactionally trade for AD, trade for Luca. And you can get those players, but that's not what the league is anymore. And so is Los Angeles going to be patient with the new Dodgers owners for years? And I don't think Los Angeles is built to be that. Like in baseball, you can just go by guys. In the NFL, you can go awful to great overnight. The NBA now, and this is the Adams Silver NBA, everybody's shooting threes, nobody wins back to backs, and the one way to build is
Starting point is 00:26:49 draft and develop. Well, the problem is the NFL draft gives you a 23-year-old. The NBA draft gives you 19-year-old, so they're not even ready to go to the hotel bar. So are Los Angeles Laker fans ready? Move off LeBron, get some draft capital in a place? for Austin Reeves and get more athletic and wait for about four years to get back into that okay C San Antonio mold. Well, I think patient, you use the right word. That's the word. That's the key word.
Starting point is 00:27:17 The Lakers had the young guys, DeAngelo Russell, Brandon Ingram, all those early picks, Lanzo ball. We don't have the patience for this. Let's bring in LeBron James. Let's bring in AD. But the league was less punitive to that. That wasn't necessarily bad GMing. No, it was great. They got a title.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Yeah. Well, now you're right. It's tough, and that's what's going to make this Luca thing tricky because the league has these stupid new rules that kind of want to restrict player movement. Colin, riddle me this. Why did Adam Silver want that? The best this league has been post-Jordan was the last decade where everybody's moving around, the Warriors super team. LeBron's creating super. Well, we talked about the NBA more during KD Warriors and the Heedles.
Starting point is 00:28:00 And I believe it's because David Stern, the late great commissioner, took over a league. that nobody cared about. So he understood the value of New York and Chicago and the Celtics and the Lakers big brands being great. Adam Silver inherited a different league from David Stern, one that was top heavy, where 70% of the owners were unhappy that you could create super teams. So Adam Silver is like, ah, let's have a league with ultimate parity. dynasties are popular go back to the 10 most popular NBA teams in my lifetime Magics Lakers, Bird Celtics,
Starting point is 00:28:43 the bad boy pistons, the heedles Now that doesn't mean every dynasty Duncan Spurs are beloved or fascinating But there is a history in basketball Ask yourself this The top 10 AAU teams in the country They always, you know, Atlanta Metro, Detroit Metro Basketball's Yukon Basket
Starting point is 00:29:04 basketball, Duke basketball, Yukon women's basketball. Basketball has always lent itself to dynasties. Why? Because you only have five starters and eight rotational players. If you get two great players together, you can have ten great players in the NFL. If you've got a crappy coach, you're done. So basketball is always lent itself. It's the reality of the structure, the construct of basketball, you're going to have dynasties. Girls, teams, boys' team, doesn't matter. And so Adam's pushing back on a reality of the sport. Get out of the way. If people want to play together, Magic love playing with Kareem and Worthy and Michael Cooper. Like if you're going to have stars, stars want to play with stars. Kobe wanted Gasol and Shaq. He didn't want that two-year period when they didn't
Starting point is 00:29:49 have another star. And you know who's going to be hurt the most by this, Colin, is Steph Curry, who's stuck on a putrid Warriors team. Where's he going to go? Not even a playoff team. And LeBron, who is averaging 22, 6 and 6 or whatever. And he's looking at like he might be might just have to take a major pay cut or retire. Like it's real. I don't like what Adam Silver did. I think they butcher this. And I'm not optimistic about the next few years. You can go to eighth grade basketball, where it's boys and girls, and then it becomes high school basketball, and then it becomes college basketball, then it becomes pro basketball.
Starting point is 00:30:23 On every level, basketball is about dynasties. You go to any state in this country, there's one basketball program in high school that dominates, maybe two. And I'm talking about, you get, you know, outside of maybe California, even big states. So I just think, just let the water flow where it goes naturally. Great players want to play with great players. Yeah. All right, let's move on to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And the New England Patriots suffered a big L in the Super Bowl. It's curious whether or not, they'll get back there. But at his final press conference of the season Tuesday, Mike Vrable broke down a message he gave his team following the loss. talked about a disappointing finish to a phenomenal, exciting, enjoyable year. You know, it's unfortunate. Talk to them about the, you know, foundation, I think, that we've built, much like a home. You know, you build a home and then run out of things to do. And so you continue to add on to it.
Starting point is 00:31:23 You finish the basement. You make additions to it. And we'll try to do that to this footprint. ball team. I like the foundation of it and I'll try to improve on it. Yep. Attack the offensive line. Get another tight end and wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:31:39 The defense is good enough. It just needs more depth. They'll be very good next year. The downside is the entire AFC had a hiccup this year. Like, I mean, it really was. Kansas City and Baltimore and Burrow and the Chargers lost both their tackles. The problem for New England
Starting point is 00:31:54 isn't their roster. It's their competition. The AFC had a down year. This was the year with a Patriot schedule to sneak through. I think there'll be a better roster next year and yet won't get to the AFC championship with a better roster. Yeah, so the schedule, by the way, the first place schedule is going to be brutal, Colin. It's like last year was a joke.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I'm looking at the schedule. Jags, Seahawks, Chargers, Chiefs, Lions, Bears. I'm not making this up. These are the away games. I mean, in the division, they'll beat the Jets and the Dolphins. That's fine. They got to go to the bears, the lions. I don't think you're...
Starting point is 00:32:34 Again, everybody can get excited about Drake May and Rabel. There's a world where this team misses the playoffs next year. It's not a lock. The biggest advantage the NFL has over college football, and you and I love college football, is that the better you get, the league stacks the rosters against you. You know, in college football, the better Sabin's teams got. the more power Nick had with the schedule and the softer out-of-conference schedule.
Starting point is 00:33:01 They wouldn't go on the road at a conference against anybody, right? It was like neutral field or in Tuscaloosa. The great thing about the NFL where it really separates, you get more high-quality games, you get a New England schedule for a year, take advantage of it. The following year, you are going to face a gauntlet of great teams, and that is why it creates all these great games. Think about this. We got about 14 games a weekend in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Nine are compelling. What's the hit rate? In college football, you got 70 games a weekend. There's six good ones. You have so many lobsided games. So I love that the Patriots took advantage of this, but next year's true serum. And they'll be better, but they won't have as good a record, not even close.
Starting point is 00:33:48 All right. Final story is the Seattle Seahawks wrapping up their Super Bowl win. Ernest Jones, the linebacker, came to the defense of Sam Darnold yesterday or two days ago at the parade. Shout out to these bad ass who played this game. The right way. Not only do we have the best defense in the world, we got the best team in the world.
Starting point is 00:34:13 And quite frankly, if you got anything to say for my quarterback, you got anything to say by my defense, you got anything to say for my own line, and you got anything to say by the same, by the city of Seattle. I got two words for you. That was kind of frank. Ernest is the
Starting point is 00:34:39 Lillian. Is he a little pro fan? I mean, geez. How many drinks did the guy at that point? Come on. Goodness gracious. Okay, Sam Darnel won the Super Bowl. He went to Disneyland. The end.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Jay Mack with a news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. So I just saw it. So I just saw this. The Packers Matt Lefleur, serious story, has landed on the coaching hot seat list. So according to this story, the 10 coaches on the hot seat, Aaron Glenn, obviously.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And, you know, Brian Schottenheimer, Todd Bull, Zach Taylor, like some are predictable. They have Matt Lefleur at number of. nine. Second most wins in the history of the NFL for a coach in his first seven wins, seven years. According to Fox Sports.com, they got Matt LaFlewer on the list. Okay. I don't agree with that at all. The interesting one, though, is Nick Seriani, Eagles coach it too. Because I believe the market is the truth. When Cleveland fired Kevin Stefansky, he interviewed with the top five jobs within a week. I said when they fired him, he's going to land the first or second best job on the market.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Now, Buffalo didn't look like it had any intention of hiring anybody but Joe Brady. So that one was kind of out. And Baltimore really leaning heavily into Jesse Minter. But I don't, the market is the truth. Kevin Stefanski interviewed immediately for all the top jobs. What's interesting with Siriani is, I don't think he'd get in their job, not quickly. So fans are completely swayed by winning, but there's a lot of different ways to win. Sometimes a coach inherits a mess, Bill Parcell's career, and turns around quickly,
Starting point is 00:36:45 and sometimes a coach inherits a really good roster, Nick Seriani. He inherited a great O-line and a great owner and a great GM and great, and great team momentum. I mean, they got rid of a coach who won a Super Bowl. So you got to be careful. Results-based analysis, where you base everything on the results is flawed. That's what Miami did.
Starting point is 00:37:11 And they paid $54 million a year for $2 million. Well, he made a Pro Bowl. I mean, he made the playoffs. He had a great offensive coach. When he was making the playoffs, He had a running back that led the NFL in touchdowns. He had a track team on the sidelines at wide receiver, and the Jets and the Patriots were a mess and rebuilding.
Starting point is 00:37:36 You can't just be swayed by results. That's like judging a real estate broker only when the interest rates are 3 to 3.5%. Anybody can sell a home with that. If you have a real estate broker and the interest, rates are 7.5%. I have a friend who's a real estate broker down in Florida. Everybody tells me, man, Florida, that is a buyer's market, man, a seller, they can't, they can't sell anything. He's never had better years. He's really good. And the interest rates aren't ideal. That's a good real estate broker. Anybody can anybody, if you give him a track team on the perimeter,
Starting point is 00:38:22 Mike McDaniel, 18 running back touchdowns, weak division where it's Buffalo and team circling the drain, Patriots rebuilding, jetts rebuilding. So that's my take on Nick Seriani is he landed this great, great job. And you all think Nick Seriani is a better coach than Kevin Stefanski. The market reacted to Stavansky's firing. Everybody interviewed it. Siriani's got a trophy. if he lost his job, who's interviewing him?
Starting point is 00:38:54 Seriously, who, I mean, who's hiring him? Maybe he could get a job. I don't think he'd get one of the good ones. It can't just be results-based judging. Winning takes, there's a lot of different ways to win. We just had two defensive coaches in a Super Bowl after years of offensive coaches. So by all accounts, I mean, the offensive line coach for Philadelphia, Jeff Scoutland considered the best offensive line coach,
Starting point is 00:39:20 He's still coaching. He left the Eagles. With all that talent in the O line, he left it. What does that tell you? So when Green Bay Packer fans get all worked up about Matt LaFleur, you guys don't know how good you have it with Matt LaFleur. You do realize Green Bay doesn't land free agents. How did the Seahawks get Sam Darnold?
Starting point is 00:39:42 Big City, good coach, convinced him to come there. There were more than one team wanted Sam Darnold. So Green Bay does not attract free agents like other places do. I mean, some players love playing there, but they're not a lot to do. It's a tiny town. That's a huge disadvantage. The Packers have always done a great job drafting and developing, mostly because that's the only way they can build dynasties, drafting and developing. Seahawks can do it multiple ways.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Eagles can do it multiple ways. Rams can do it multiple ways. Rams give up their first round picks, and they're great. So when I see coaching hot seat and I see Matt Lafleur on it, I mean, it got to be serious. That's just not serious. Live in Chicago, it's the herd. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.
Starting point is 00:40:42 What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
Starting point is 00:41:01 I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. we could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
Starting point is 00:41:26 and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&LINER.
Starting point is 00:41:51 N. L. Michael's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keith Giamonka seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly, he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:26 But I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong on what that might look like? No. I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has... has been living a double life.
Starting point is 00:42:52 That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is, getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is, getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the civil war. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Lee Boulevard.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akila Hughes, and Rebel Spirit season two goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal. personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian, and recently I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream a chicken suit. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Saturday, the ACC and Big Ten collide in primetime. the inaugural Nashville Hoops Showdown. As number 15, Virginia takes on Bruce Thornton and Ohio State. It all begins Saturday at 8 Eastern on Fox. You've seen the ratings for college basketball this year? Oh, yeah. Beating the NBA.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You know I'm a college hoops guy. Beating the NBA. Yeah, no, certainly. The college basketball season, Colin, this is, I mean, there's like seven teams that could legitimately win the Natty. It's amazing. There are so many good teams this year. It's going to be a great tournament.
Starting point is 00:45:53 It helps outside of Kansas and their star. You know who's playing every night. Oh, yeah. It's amazing. Football players tackle each other, and yet they're always available on Sunday. And basketball players run wind sprints, and they're always hurt. You know, I don't like when you do that. I mean, it's just not nice.
Starting point is 00:46:10 College basketball, they play fast, too. I always get the starter shown up. Seems like to me. So it's amazing. I'm reading a story this morning, how the rough. Russell Wilson trade by Seattle really jump started what we're watching now. They got all these picks, Devin Witherspoon, Charles Cross, the left tackle, and others. So they started building.
Starting point is 00:46:37 But what's interesting is at that time, Russell Wilson was good. But he was viewed by John Snyder. The GM is not good enough. and that's what you can take from the Seahawks Super Bowl. You're not going to duplicate this defense, the dark side. You're not going to go eight for eight the next four years on your top two or three picks in the draft. You're not John Snyder. You don't have that.
Starting point is 00:47:06 What you can identify as something to emulate is what the Seahawks did. It's the same thing the Niners did with Garoppolo, who got to a Super Bowl in San Francisco. Francisco said, we're not going to settle. It's what McVeigh said to Jared Gough, who got to a Super Bowl. We can be better at that position. It's what Andy Reed and the Chiefs said, even though Alex Smith got Kansas City to the playoffs, we're not going to settle for that. The Eagles with Wence, we found something we think is better. You can laugh at this, but the Bucks had James Winston who led the NFL. in passing yards, was second in passing touchdowns as the league was transitioning to an
Starting point is 00:47:55 offensive league. And they said, now we're going to get the old guy Brady. It's not good enough. James Winston was wildly productive. Pete Carroll, by the way, thought Gino Smith was good enough. And he got whacked. Mike McDonald got one year of Gino Smith, got him out of the building. We're upgrading.
Starting point is 00:48:17 that's what you can take from the Seattle Seahawks. Don't copy their identity, copy their mindset, which is don't settle. I'll give you a great example. This works, this is a two-way street. Demarcus Lawrence, who loves Dallas, played with Dallas, wanted to end his career with Dallas, went to Seattle, and he didn't do it for the money.
Starting point is 00:48:45 He only got like 18 million guaranteed money. DeMarcus Lawrence, do you remember when he said this? You know, Dallas is my home. I made my home there. You know, my family lives there. You know, I'm forever going to be there. But, you know, I know for sure I'm not going to win a Super Bowl there. I'm not going to settle for the Dallas Cowboys nonsense.
Starting point is 00:49:10 I'm going to go to better structure. A non-meddling owner, in his eyes, a better coach, a better system. and a better roster. So it works, it works both ways. It's just, that's what you copy from Seattle and the Rams and Kansas City and the Niners don't settle. Gino's fine. Darnold's better, obviously.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And it was obvious before the trade or before the free agent signing. So here was Donald this week at the parade reflecting on his journey. I just want to say I've talked a lot this last week about belief. A lot of people, you know, didn't believe in me, but it didn't matter because the ones that are close believed in me, including y'all. I appreciate y'all so much. That short list also includes Jody Allen, John Schneider, Mike McDonald, man. I appreciate the belief y'all had in me for signing me last this past year. And last but certainly not least, these players, man, for believing in me.
Starting point is 00:50:15 you know, I wouldn't be here without these guys. Yeah, it's funny. John Snyder, GM, and Mike McDonald, the coat of the Seahawks, both publicly and privately lamented the fact they could not figure out why Darnold was so negatively covered by the media. And I think this goes back to something we've discussed that those initial first impressions, are really strong, especially if it's like a three-year first impression. And seeing ghost, people just were not willing to move off that. There's a lot of rigidity in sports, which is silly, new information, new opinion.
Starting point is 00:51:00 I've always said, if your biggest criticism of me is I move off opinions, yeah, I'll own that forever. New information, new opinion. Sam Darnold Jets didn't work. Sam Darnold, end of his Carolina run. Oh, four and two as a starter. San Francisco, Minnesota. Seattle is a new player. New information.
Starting point is 00:51:16 He's really, really good. Is he top 10 good? Maybe closer to 10 than 3, but he's good. There are no question he's good. And it was funny having Drew Breeze on yesterday. Here's four quarterbacks who have gone through a playoffs without a turnover. Darnold, Breeze, Aikman, Steve Young. All of them had great coaches.
Starting point is 00:51:36 All of them had their best roster ever in their career. And they figured out, I'm not taking big risk here. You go back to that Saints team with Breeze. We were watching yesterday the highlights of it. That Saints team was stacked. They had corners and safeties and linebackers and running backs. I mean, they had guys, they had like bit players on that team that could play special teams. And Drew Breeze figured it out.
Starting point is 00:52:03 You know, it's like there are times as a quarterback, it's like, I got to take risks. We play from behind a lot. We've got holes. I mean, that's Matt Stafford. Like Matt Stafford knows the Rams corners. they should draft two corners this year before the fourth round. Matt Stafford knows we got to be good on offense because you can beat us down the fit. Carolina almost beat the Rams twice.
Starting point is 00:52:24 I mean, there are holes with most teams. Seattle didn't have a hole. I mean, they do not have a hole. They have exceptional special teams. Top three special teams. Even their offensive line, which I had criticized during the year, I think center, right guard, right tackle, it's okay. I think left guard, left tackle, very good. I mean, we say this.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I'm not sure when's the last NFL team? And I guess you could say Philadelphia last year. But, you know, was Philadelphia special teams this good? Jalen Hertz doesn't throw over the middle of the field. Ringer has an article this week on Jalen Hertz. He literally doesn't throw over the middle of the field. There were Nick Siriani's not in Mike McDonald's class as a coach. Like I'm trying to think of a NFL team in the last eight years, nine years,
Starting point is 00:53:11 10 years, this good. Everything. A at everything. And they're O-line. Maybe they overachieve. Maybe they're better than we give them credit for. O-Line was pretty good to me in the playoffs. Pretty good in the Super Bowl. Because New England's defense is good. That wasn't about the C-O-Lon. Our tune-A. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called. Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.
Starting point is 00:53:46 We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.
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