The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Packers are having issues on offense, the Micah Parsons trade isn't one sided, looking at the Bears offense

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

Colin Cowherd breaks down what’s gone wrong with Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers offense after back-to-back losses and another sluggish 7-point performance He goes back to the Micah Parsons trade to Green Bay, and why it's as one sided as some may think For the first time in a while, the Bears offense is playing better than the Packers offenseSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It was a rough what you did. I made sure I got a nap. I wanted to stay up late. Halfway through that game, I'm like, why did I stay up for this? It's unwatchable. But it does create a lot of interesting scenarios. That Packer's schedule pretty dicey going forward now that Chicago's legit.

So let's start with this. Is Green Bay's problem a Jordan love issue, a Matlafleur issue, injuries to wide receivers and tight end issue, well, whatever, they've regressed. in almost every offensive category, three straight weeks. I don't feel like Matt Lafleur has a ton of trust for Jordan Love. I mean, how many yards passing in the first half? 39, six completions.

Now, Jordan Love has great traits. 64, 220, good arm moves. He would be the number one pick if he came out today. Big, strong kid with a big-time arm runs well. But I've seen Ben Johnson and Caleb grow in eight to nine weeks. We're six years in to Lafleur and Jordan Love, and you get these weird stretches where it feels like They're grinding gears.

We've got six years of these two. Don't tell me it's defense. Philadelphia is defense, middle of the pack. Carolina held them to 13 points last week. Now, usually if it's, you know, a quarterback issue, even bad quarterbacks or limited quarterbacks are good on script like J.J. McCarthy. Not Green Bay. Their offense is broken.

They haven't scored an opening drive touchdown. Since week four against Dallas, they can't even get the scripted stuff right. So this offense is broken. Nothing's working. But you know what I felt last night watching this game? I felt like I was watching two quarterbacks who are dealing with the same thing. Is that the difference between Hertz and Jordan Love and the elite guys is noticeable when they don't have a run game. Kate, Justin Herbert is on a three-game winning streak with a worst O-line in football on a third string running back.

Mahomes won a Super Bowl with an average run game and a blow average receiving core. I mean, Lamar Jackson wins 12 games a year. Has he ever had a number one receiver? Good tight ends. Jalen Hertz and Jordan Love. They're not that. Both last year had an exceptional run game. You know where the Packers and the Eagles run game?

games are ranked this year? 20th, 21st. These guys need more. There's about five quarterbacks on the planet. Herbert's one of them, Mahomes, Lamar, Josh, they don't need a run game. I mean, Josh Allen got to an AFC championship with no run game years ago. Joe Burrow got to a Super Bowl with a bad old line. That's not what these guys are. They are good quarterbacks and good guys and good leaders. They're not top five guys in the league. And top five guys don't need as much. Can get to Super Bowls with completely flawed teams. That Burrow team that got to the Super Bowl was wildly flawed.

I mean, it's one of the least, it's one of the least impressive roster that's ever got into a Super Bowl. Go look at the Chargers O line right now. Justin Herbert's getting hit 15 times, three-game winning street. So I think reality with Jordan Love and Jay Hylen Hertz is when you give them a dominant run game, man, they're tough. They're thrown on play action. They're using their legs. They're good franchise quarterbacks.

There's about five guys at any one time in my life in the planet that can reach conference championships, not have a good run game, bunch of injuries everywhere, coach is good, not great, incredibly rare. That's Burroughs-esque. That's Lamar, right? Here's Matt Lafleur after. I don't sense any quick in there, obviously. It's a good football team that we went against.

And we just got to be better offensively is really the message. And I thought our defense played really well. I thought we did some good things on teams. And unfortunately, like I said all along, it's just you've got to find a way to score more points. And it starts with myself. And then there's some level of execution that has to go with that as well. Listen, Matt LaFleur is a good coach. Is he Andy Reid? Probably not.

Bill Parcells, Jimmy Johnson, probably not. Good coach. Jordan loves a good quarterback. He's not great. He's good. And by the way, if you have a good quarterback, Daniel Jones, who's now become a good quarterback with some flaws, fumble issues. They're going to win their division.

They're going to host a playoff game. The problem for Green Bay is, oh-oh, Detroit's got a better roster. and Chicago's legitimate. Go look at that Packer's schedule. That lost last night, it's going to get tricky navigating this. They got to figure out that offense. They are lost right now.

All right, so I don't know if you noticed this last night with Micah Parsons. He didn't have a sack. He didn't have a quarterback hit. Let me check the stats. Oh, it's the second straight game. No sacks. No quarterback hits. Remember when the Cowboys traded him?

The reaction was completely over the top. You were only allowed one opinion. This is a heist for the backers. Oh, they stole him from Jerry and the Cowboys. But there was this one singular voice in the American Sports Land Escape. Just a tiny, humble voice from a tiny humble man, me, who said, I get it. I get it.

I've seen Micah get engulfed by good left tackles. What are his playoff numbers? There's a way to go at Micah. Yeah. Remember that? I was the one guy that raised his hand and said, I got a couple first round picks and Kenny Clark. All right.

Green Bay last season through nine games. Six and three. Green Bay this season through nine with Micah. Five, three, and one. Dallas last year through nine games, three and six. Dallas this year through nine. Three, five, and one. This is not the NBA.

We're an amazing dunk. A windmill dunk can supersede production. It will define you. Dunks will define you. This is the NFL. And Micah's rep has always been. He is a splash player, a remarkable athletic splash player. He's not good against the run.

Right now, edge rushers, he's 28th in the league against the run. Miles Garrett is elite at both. T.J. Watt, good against the run and the pass. He's more versatile. Max Crosby, good against the run, great against the pass. That's not Micah. I mean, the truth is I was talking this summer to an NFL GM. As a humble man, I was on a park bench all by myself, just me and the iPhone.

And I was talking to an NFL GM. And I said, what would you do with Micah? And this GM said, you know, the funny thing about Micah, when he got to Dallas, you know, they tried to make him a linebacker and drop him into coverage. I didn't last very long because he couldn't do it. This GM said, he doesn't have great eyes. He's more of the heat-seeking missile. See the quarterback, get him.

See the ball, get it. There's nothing wrong with that. DeMarcus Lawrence of the Seahawks joked around this weekend. He said, yeah, our defense in Seattle for me is C-ball, ball. It's kind of an old expression in the NFL. Micah is a great athlete and a heat-seeking missile. He is great to have in Green Bay when they lead games in the fourth quarter. But when they don't, and the offense dries up, he's not very good against the run. And so Philadelphia at the end of a game can try to

run the clock down and just run at Micah. I'm not saying he's not worth the first round pick. I'm not saying he doesn't have value. On the right team, Bill Polion told me this years ago, when your offense is humming, you get to Peyton Manning, next thing you need, need a left tackle than an edge rusher because you're going to be leading games with six minutes to go and they have to pass. The other guys have to pass. So I like the move for Green Bay. But this idea made no sense for Dallas. No, I get it. Kenny Clark and two firsts? I get Kenny Clark's good player. So Jerry Jones, remember after the Micah trade that was paned by everybody, Jerry had a little tell on his view on Micah.

Micah is special, and we all know he is, and he can be disruptive. But we have huge amounts of experience with the anecdotes that we've seen used on us for the last four years. And while he does make great plays, there is also a way to approach playing against Micah, as we know, because we didn't exactly win the Super Bowl during those years. Yeah, they tried him at linebacker. No, he wasn't that versatile.

You can run at him. He's great when Green Bay's offense is humming. But the last two weeks, Green Bay's offense isn't humming. So teams that face Green Bay don't have to, in obvious downs, throw. They don't have to. They can run. They can throw. They can do play.

It's what Carolina did, what Philadelphia did, and you can run at him. So I can think two things. Love Micah, great fit for the Packers. But the reaction was so overwrought that Dallas got nothing from it. Two-first and Kenny Clark. That's pretty good. Now they have Quinn and Williams still two-first next year. It's pretty good.

When Dallas drafts an edge rusher with their first pick in the next draft because they don't need a quarterback, they're going to have Quinn and Williams, Kenny Clark, and a first-round edge-rusher. That's elite. That's why the Eagles went and got Jalen Phillips, because they got two interior guys that are great, and now they've got an elite edge rusher, Phillips. So, just saying, there was a small, timid man, a humble man in the forest of yelling and screaming, J. Mack, you remember that day when we just said, slow down, two first, Kenny Clark. It's a very nice package.

You could, because you don't need a quarterback, you could move down. in the first and get more picks with it because the seven teams need a quarterback. So I think that Micah last night, no sacks, no quarterback hits, second week in a row. Well, you're my dear friend. I like you a lot. I'll just stand by aside and say, I disagree with this take badly. I won't tell you that Micah is still the defensive player of the year, favorite, that he's third in the league in pressures, that the Packers are going to be fine defensively.

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A lot of Bears fans. So for the first time in forever, Chicago's offense is better than Green Bay's offense. Everything. Big plays, run game, offensive line. PFF has the Bears O line at 7th, the quarterback. In fact, the Bears offense against the Packers offense, it's startling. Big plays, the Bears have 78. Packers have 57.

they have a better run game significantly. Also, I'll take DJ Moore and Roma Dunzee over a lot of Packer receivers. It's starting to feel like now that Kraft is gone, receiver and tight end by committee. Also, the Bears have been great in close games this year. Packers have been bad. So whatever that clutch gene is, Caleb has it. So, you know, it's a good question. Jordan loves peak.

Was it 2023 against the Cowboys in Dallas playoff game? Remember that? What's Caleb Williams Peak? Sunday. So it does feel like one is absolutely ascending. I think the thing that's most impressive, last year Caleb sacked 68 times, this year 14. So listen, he's getting the messaging.

He's coachable. And that's like a big thing. like the more extraordinary a quarterback's talent is sometimes they're going to do what they do. I've always said this. Lamar Jackson, I can see that he takes to coaching. He doesn't have to. He'd still win 70% of his games.

I can see Caleb taking to coaching. When you get that A plus quarterback talent, it doesn't take long, right? Like the Bengals did not win a playoff game for 31 years. Joe Burroughs already won five, and he's been hurt a lot. The Buffalo Bills, 2000 to 2000, 18 had three winning seasons. They're on their seventh straight winning season. So Drake May,

Caleb Williams, are A prospects. They erase a lot of things quickly. I mean, let's be honest about New England. We said going into the season, they don't really have a number one receiver, a number one tight end, O-line's okay. He's kind of erased all of that. Remember what I used to call LeBron, the human eraser in Cleveland? He didn't have an all-star around him. They got to the finals. I mean, it's just that's what great does. I think Chicago's got much better personnel top to bottom than New England does, but Drake May and Caleb have this ability. They erase stuff.

They can play bad for a half, three quarters, and then turn it on in the fourth quarter. And they're the launch pad. A great quarterback is a launch pad, the rocket booster for success. And you look at those numbers, bears and packers. it's not just just the big plays Caleb was a better prospect Caleb's got a bigger arm

the run game for Chicago now is elite it's hard to cheat on the run game when you got Caleb moving outside so it's noticeable and again Green Bay feels stuck Chicago feels like

it's ascending Chicago's really been good in these close games. Should get better, right, young team? Green Bay feels stuck in close games. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, let's start with the NBA, huge breaking news just before the show came on. Nico Harrison, the embattled GM of the Dallas Mavericks, has been fired.

Yes, the man who delivered Luca to the Lakers. Thank you, Nico Harrison. He got his walking papers this morning from the Mavs. Dallas is off to a brutal start this season. I believe they are three and eight. Another tough loss last night to the Milwaukee Bucks. If Kyrie Irving doesn't get hurt, they wouldn't be as rudderless,

and it may feel different because he didn't get fired after the trade. Right. But then when you watch them now, and it's not just that they're losing, but they're a mishmash of too young and not lead. They don't have a leader on the floor. And you can't ask Cooper Flagg. He should be in high school. He should be his first year at Duke.

So they just don't have an offense. So in an offensive league, it's a really ugly look. Again, they could have this record. If they were fun offensively, kind of had a direction. We're losing close games late. It's not that. It's like an NFL team that can't complete passes. Like they're so hard to watch that you're kind of stuck.

And now Nico's going to take the fall. As is she on the screen, it's all been a disaster. Now, listen, I'm not defending. his trade at all. I still think it was a horrible trade. But Kyrie Irving, I believe, as you said, went down something like a week or two after the trade. And his timeline was, hey, the next three years were in the mix with Kyrie with Anthony Davis. And of course, now, Kyrie out for the year. And Anthony Davis has now heard at the beginning of the season. I know they got Cooper flag, but as you said, he's 18 years old. Dallas Mavericks fans were chanting fire Nico

basically all season at home. Clay Thompson's been a disaster. Listen, sometimes the best laid plans, they just go sideways. And we'll never get to find out if Kyrie and AD would work. When he made the move, immediately after, the Mavericks fell apart. Like four guys got hurt. And this year, Kyrie gets hurt. So if nobody ever got, if they had the, yeah, AD. If they had the average number of injuries in NBA team has,

they're kind of like the 49ers of the NBA. Like, their stars are always hurt. If they didn't have those injuries, Nico would be fine. They would have been a better team last year. The press would have pulled back. But new owners in Dallas, Mark Cuba, not the owner now. They listen to this stuff. The environment in the home arena is bad.

Reportedly, the players like playing on the road better than at home. So you had to do something. It's just a tough spot. Cooper Flagg did look great last night, by the way, in the lost. His best game is a pro. Best game. I think he had 26. All right, let's move on to the L.A. Chargers, Colin.

Very nice win over Aaron Rogers, a company on Sunday night football. They're looking to keep pace in the AFC West. Obviously the Broncos battle the Chiefs and the Chargers, they're hanging tough there. Justin Herbert, man, I'm worried about him, Colin. Sacked five times, was hit

nine times against the Steelers, had his ankle rolled up on it. An ordinary guy probably would have been down for the count. Here's Jim Harbaugh on the ankle injury suffered by Herbert. Any concern there at all with his physical size? I do have an update

on his physical status. He's still a beast. Oh, I love that guy. Obviously, Chargers have the Jags this weekend. Obviously, Jags stink. But be careful. Yeah, I, that's okay, every week I tell you, I'm staying away from a game. Okay, so I, Philadelphia Green Bay last night, I'm staying away from that thing.

A couple weeks ago, it was Denver, Houston, a weird vibe. Jags Chargers is a stayaway game. I mean, Jags can rush the passer. The Chargers O-line is... I'm not sure there's been an O-line this bad in years. They're on third string. Everybody PFF has them last at their position. You can win some home games over teams like that.

Hard to win Roeys cross-country. Tough. So remember, they went to Tennessee a few weeks ago and they were huge favorites. I took the bait. and then they give up a punt return touchdown. Herbert has a pick six. They don't cover.

They did get the win. This could be a close game. We'll see if Jacksonville gets healthier, a wide receiver. Maybe Brian Thomas is back. But I don't know. Do you really think the Chargers get through the playoffs, Colin? And I ask because of the injuries. I don't know that they can overcome.

Both tackles gone. This is the difference. This is really the difference between a star quarterback and like Brock Purdy. Who's good? Or Jordan Love who's good? brought purdy last year teams dinged up against playoff teams he was one and six Justin Herbert with the worst O-line in the league and no number one receiver has won three straight games the difference between the herberts and he's a top five or six guy and the good

quarterbacks we just watched last night take away the run game from hurts and jordan love and they shrink the justin herbert is the singular best example in this league Mahomes has been for years. He doesn't have a run game. He doesn't have an offensive line. He doesn't have a number one receiver. He gets hit more than any quarterback. So what?

He wins games. And that is the absolute Burroughs Super Bowl team is the greatest example I've ever seen of star quarterback with an average roster, good receivers average roster, getting to a Super Bowl. Herbert's got that quality. So I'm looking at the schedule, Colin. This is not great for Herbert's health, knowing that offensive line. They still have games against Philadelphia. we saw how nasty their defensive front is. We know Spagnolo is going to dial up pressure,

and they have to face Houston and Denver. Those are four of probably the best front sevens in the – four of the top ten front sevens in the league. If they lose all four of those, that's seven losses. I don't know if that gets into the playoffs in the AFC. I don't know if it does either. I picked them as a – I had them for third in their division. I said Denver, Kansas City Chargers,

and I feel pretty strong. I like Kansas City this weekend over Denver. Oh, damn it. Okay, I'm worried about the charges now. All right, final story, Con, let's go to the Buffalo Bills. Interesting subplot here for the Buffalo Bills. So the offense has not been amazing. They went scoreless for the first three quarters against Loli, Miami.

This is where it gets interesting. Yesterday, Brian Dable was fired by the Giants. We know where Brian Dable was previously in Buffalo. He didn't create Josh. Allen, but he was with him as he rose to become a superstar. So is there a world where the bills move off of Joe Brady, their OC, and bring in Brian Dable? Well, of course, Sean McDermott was asked about it.

Here's what he had to say. Joe's a good coach. He really is. We've got a really good offensive staff. You know, they've had really good games. You're going to have some games you want back, some play calls you want back. Those happen. So it's how you respond to them, and I'm fully confident in our offensive staff.

Would there be any consideration or reaching out to him to see if he had any interest in joining the staff in any way? Yeah, no, I understand why you're asking that. Brian's a great coach. Unfortunate to see that happen to him. At this point, that's not under any type of consideration. I'd hire Brian Daibald. I'd say, here's a couple, Hyundai. I want you to look at our offense, and I just tell me what you see.

Yeah. And an advisor role, right? Yeah. bring him on as an advisor. I like that. Well, if I'm the Buffalo Bills O.C, you know, think about this, Colin. Let's say I was struggling here in my role, and you said, we're going to bring on someone as an advisor, Jamie.

I love that. We help you out. Yeah, we may have somebody like doing that right now. Who knows? Well, I would instantly fire up the old resume and see what else is out there because I know. Once you do that, I think it's going to bring in some a little panic to Buffalo. The problem is Daibold knows Alan well. He knows the head coach well.

So this is a tough spot for Buffalo. And Colin, let's be real. They better go all in here. I still think the bills at their full strength are the best team in the AFC. I know you disagree. That's fine. But I don't think you mess around here. If they screw up and cannot deliver against Tampa,

I think Brian Dable will be in some kind of role on the bills in two weeks. Yeah, you know, Buffalo is what I've watched. I watched them get housed. I watched them lose to Atlanta. And beat Kansas City, though. Pretty handily. At home, game of the year, circle it, barely. I mean, they had the greatest effort of the year,

and then the next week they were bad before it. They were bad after it. Okay. I mean, I... So who's the best team in the AFC, Colin? Right now. Kansas City. Maybe Baltimore.

Four and five, Baltimore right now is the best team? Heard hierarchy isn't standings. That's the other network. I don't do standings. I do who the best team is now. Today, if you have the Ravens at number one in the AFC in the herd hierarchy, I'm out. I'm out. You do the final two hours solo.

No way. I'm not standing for that, Colin. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. So if you had to say, who are the 10 most important people in the United States? the NFL. And I'm counting everybody. You know, Mahalms and Andy Reeder way up there.

You know, Jim Harbaugh is going to get votes. Josh Allen's going to get votes. I mean, Miles Garrett, all 31 other teams would want him if he was on the market. And honestly, if you could get him, most teams would do it. How about Howie Roseman, GM of the Eagles? Top 10. Anybody watch Jalen Phillips last night? Yeah, unlike Micah, 52 snaps, seven pressures, six tackles, two quarterback hits and a fumble recovery.

Why are the Eagles the team that always makes moves like this? An elite pass rusher for a third round pick, and if he doesn't resign with him, because he's a free agent, they get a third round pick back. I mean, the Dodgers defer payments to stack their roster. your billionaire that owns a baseball team can do the same thing, right? The Eagles have made nine trades since training camp. The gap in this league between how the Bengals operate and how the Eagles operate is the gap between the pirates and the Dodgers.

I mean, you can defer payments. The Dodgers are doing it. Anybody could do it. So I look at Howie Roseman. I think he's one of the ten most important people in the league. Jalen Phillips was a five-star recruit in high school, dominant player. Goes to UCLA, great player gets banged up. He goes to the Dolphins, eight to half sacks his rookie year.

He was available. We were talking about it for three weeks. Miami's going to make moves. Why is it always Howie Roseman? I mean, Philadelphia is the best team arguably over the last five years in the NFC. We don't love the quarterback. We don't love the coach. I mean, it's Howie Roseman.

And we're all products of our environment. And I think this is the psychology that Howie Roseman gets. We're all products of our environment. There are a lot of people listening or watching the show right now. You are excellent at what you do. Your boss stinks and your company stinks. If I put you the same person, man or woman, in a better company with a better boss, you'd flourish. Right?

Because you go to work with a bad company. You go to work with a bad boss. You're just treading water. Right? None of us are born in a test tube. Our environments matter. The people around us. So you take a Jalen Phillips.

He's just, you know, again, great pass rusher. When Miami leads, that would be great. But in the fourth quarter, when he was there, Miami trailed a lot. So teams are running against Miami. Now you put him in Philadelphia. Philadelphia leads in the second half. Then they can pin the ears back, and Jalen Phillips can go after you. And you're watching that game last night.

He jumps off the television. He's been a tremendous, tremendous player. Now he's in a more uplifting, joyful, optimistic, positive environment. It wasn't hard to figure out. You know, I'm watching him, I'm like, why is it always howie? Here's Jalen Phillips on his big game last night at Lambo. I just felt super grateful. It was the first time in a while that I've gotten a little emotional before a game.

just, you know, obviously this stage and, you know, coming here, it's my first time of Lambo walking out through that tunnel. I mean, it doesn't get better than that. So, yeah, I'm definitely grateful. It felt amazing energy from the guys. There's just an air of confidence. And, you know, everybody played together. We had a great game, honestly, super gritty.

So, yeah, I'm just grateful to be here for sure. Everybody went crazy on the Micah deal. This was a heist. A third round pick for a potential rental player. or you can sign him. He's a tremendous player. It's funny, in college, he had some injuries. Did he, like, retire briefly from football in college at UCLA?

But I can remember watching his high school tape, unbelievable five-star recruit. He's always been a great player. And it was just, when Seattle went out and got Rashid Sahee, the receiver, it's like, that is going to pay dividends. John Snyder, great GM. You watched that game last night. I mean, it's when you can, like Miles Garrett's like this,

When you can turn the TV on and you're a casual, let's say you're a casual fan. You don't know all the defensive players. You watched that game last night. There was a play where he literally grabbed the defensive end. I think we showed it on the tape, pushed him over, and made the tackle to the running back. That is elite. That is really, really hard to do. Yeah, here it is right there.

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Bears fans, Chiefs fans, thanks to all who honorably serve our country. So, listen, I'm not trying to start something. That's not how I roll. I'm America's honesty broker. And honestly, do the Lakers need LeBron back? last night, Rui, Austin Reeves, Luca. Austin Reeves, through eight games, he's averaging 30 a game. It's the best he's ever been.

Rui through 11 games, the best he's ever been. Field goal percentage, three-point percentage. DeAndre Aiton is playing with joy and effort. This is the Lakers' best offense since LeBron joined in 2018. It's never And some of it's JJ Reddick He is amazing at creating

Space for his players They're number one in points Field goal percentage Offensive rating No LeBron And remember Rob Polinka Austin Reeves is his guy

So if they moved him It would have to be It would have to be the deal of the century You know There have been times They've appreciated LeBron but Austin Reeves and Luca, those are Polinka's guys. He made the deal with Luca.

He found Austin Reeves. That's where the loyalty is. And this is the interesting thing. I'm pro-Lebron. But LeBron has always needed the ball to play his best. That was great at 28. It's not great at 41. LeBron's also amazing at elevating B players.

Luca's now better than LeBron. And Austin Reeves, many would argue, is an A-minus player. So LeBron dominating the ball. He can take the oxygen out of the offense. He can a little bit, right? He needs the ball. It was fine when he was the best player.

He's not. Luke is a much better offensive player now. So, and you got, remember, the loyalty in this organization, Rob Polinka runs the show. Okay, the new guys are baseball people. Rob runs the show, just got a contract extension. Luke is his guy, Steel of the Century, right? in the trade, and then Austin

Reeves is his guy. And JJ Redick is so good. He's already a specialist at creating space. Rui's never played this good through 11 games. He's been a hot and cold player. Austin Reeves has never been this good. So here

is Luca. It feels like a very joyful, freed up offense. Everybody's got space. You know, nobody is taking the ball and becoming a ball stopper, good movement, excellent space. Here's Luca on having Austin Reeves back.

It's great. I was pushing him to get back and needing him back, so it's always great to have him back. He's an amazing player, so, I mean, you saw it today. After missing four games, it's not, I don't know how much it was. It's not easy to just come back and perform the way he performs. So props to him, and we're happy. You know, it looks like a bunch of kids having fun and dad's been gone for a couple weeks. When dad comes back, everything gets a little tight.

Everybody's shoulders get a little tight. Am I wrong on this? Austin Reeves and Rui have never been this good to start a season. Now, again, JJ Reddick gets some credit. But he's not Phil Jackson yet. It just seems fairly obvious that LeBron at 40, the idea that he's going to play off ball a lot. LeBron's not an elite shooter.

LeBron needs the ball. I'm just saying, I'm not starting anything. I'm just, I'm just addressing what appears to be fairly obvious. If you're a Laker fan and you've watched the game, look at the movement and spacing. It's unbelievable how clean it is.

I just pulled the pit on the grenade and chucked it, but I'm not starting anything. I'm not starting anything. There's nothing. Listen, Colin, settle down. take a deep breath. It's LeBron. Probably the smartest basketball player we've seen in the history of the NBA. I mean, is that a stretch? He's an absolute big brain genius out there. But he does have a style. I think they're going to figure it out. He does have a style.

Well, you know what? We've got to adapt our styles. My style coming on to this show. I had my own radio show for like five years. I'd want to run the show. I know I got to play off you. You're the man. This is your show. I got to adapt my style. We all have to change, Colin. I don't think 41-year-old superstars change. Old dogs can't teach them new tricks? No, I think that's always been the thing. Kevin Durant, you can just plop into any offense, catch and shoot.

That's not LeBron. LeBron, there are certain guys that you know what they bring. Westbrook brings energy, not efficiency, but energy. Durant, catch and shoot, late in the shot clock. LeBron needs the ball. LeBron's really smart, elevates

B-level players, and in his prime was the best player on the floor. usually by a stretch. He's not the best player on the Lakers. He's not the best player in the Lakers. In an offensive league, Luke is a much cleaner, pure shooter. So I'm trying to think of an example of someone

who was ball dominant in the NBA and needed to pivot as they got older. And you're right, a lot of these guys, like Alan Iverson could never adjust. Your game is your game. Carmelo Anthony could never adjust. I need the ball. I need, you know, like,

I'm just going to put faith in LeBron again, smart player. I'm not doubting that. All NBA last year. I think it's going to be okay. And remember him and Luca and Reeves, there are going to be some clunky moments. I think they've played something like 21 games together.

That's it. There haven't been many. So they're going to iron things out the schedule. By the way, OKC Lakers tomorrow night in OKC should be a good one. We know Luca owns OKC historically, dating back to his Mavs days. LeBron will not be at that one. All right. Yeah.

NFL schedule, week 10, week 11. Let's look it up. Let's dial up the NFL schedule. I think the lines are, first of all, there's some unbelievable games. Seahawks Rams could be the game of the year in the NFL. And you're wedded to Seattle on that one, huh? I get points with Seattle. I don't think the home field's a big edge.

the Rams are more efficient than Seattle. I think Seattle has got, I mean, those are two of the top four or five rosters in the league or better. Detroit at Philadelphia is a really interesting game. Kansas City at Denver late afternoon. That's a pretty interesting game. Keep your eye on this one. It's late.

Oh, my gosh. Keep your eye on this one. Bears at Vikings. What do you do with that one? Well, Bears are the better team. I looked at the line on this. It is if the wise guys think that Kevin O'Connell and J.J. McCarthy, you can see from the lines, people don't buy the bears.

The guys in the desert don't buy the bears. They still, you know, they're like, okay, it's Ben Johnson. It's not, you know, despite all the glowing numbers, the lines vary to me, a little wonky on the Bears, Vikings. Bears could win this game the way they're playing now. Yeah. Comfortably. I mean, just remember the Bears had scored, I believe,

seven points on the New York Giants through three quarters. The Giants defense who hasn't stopped anybody in weeks. So I don't know. I mean, I would probably lean J.J. McCarthy and company in that one. But that's probably a stayaway. I still think the best bets are the Patriots Thursday night and the dolphins in Madrid against Washington. So far at least.

I've never been a game played in Madrid. I'm going to kick that going. All right, hour two, Heard hierarchy. Who is now the best team in the league? It's not Philadelphia. It's not Kansas City. They may be close.

Plus Nick Wright. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called,

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It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, Embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app,

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