The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - People owe Jerry Jones an apology, the Eagles have been tempting fate all season, Shedeur Sanders first win as a Brown

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

Colin Cowherd breaks down the NFL weekend, reacting to the Dallas Cowboys’ stunning 21-point comeback win over the Philadelphia Eagles. Colin explains why Dallas is closer to contender status than most fans think, giving major credit to Dak Prescott and Jerry Jones Whatever the problem is with the Eagles, we saw the same kind of dysfunction 2 years ago Thoughts on QB Shedeur Sanders first win as a BrownSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but it was going to be a really good Sunday, and it was. Overtime games, already got coordinators getting whacked. One hour from now where Colin was right. where Colin was wrong. Oh, it's plenty of both. Wow. So, Alboys Eagles, Jay Mack. It was, you know, on paper, we think Dallas is floundering,

but somehow shoddy has got this offense, at least in moments playing out of their mind, and it ended up being in wildly, incredibly entertaining game. So let's just start with that one. I said it last week, and I've been a huge, critic of the Cowboys. They're not as far off as you think since they've made these trades. Okay, a lot of us may own apology to Gerald Wayne Jones Jr.

Because Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams deals, now suddenly you can't run on the Cowboys. The Micah Parsons trade. Well, didn't have much of an effect. They're still top three in quarterback rushes. The George Pickens move, I mean, that's one of the heists. Poor Steelers can't throw the ball down the field. George Pickens, third in the NFL and touchdowns. DeMarvian Oversown, that dude was great at Texas with the Longhorns.

He is healthy. He is super athletic. Two first round picks. They're going to get an edge to replace Micah, probably a corner. I don't know. The offense works, man. Number one in the league in total offense. Number one in passing.

Number four in scoring. It works. And because of Pickens and season. CD Lamb. You can't cheat on the run game. So the Cowboys are running the ball now better than they have since Zeke in 2019. Now the O line is hot and cold.

Better run blocking than pass blocking. But statistically, I know I know they're only 5-5-1. I know they're playing Kansas City and it may not turn out well, but I would rather be Dallas today and have the offense figured out than be the Steelers for the fifth year in a row

paying a fortune for a defense that can't stop anybody. You can say what you want about Dallas. Two first round picks. Overshone's healthy. George Pickens, heist, a real run game for the first time in forever. And say this for Jerry. Or Gerald Wayne Jones, Sr. He has always been 100% committed the DAC. He has said he's the best leader I've ever had. And yesterday, that unflappable leadership trailing 21-0, throwing and, you know, he can throw a red zone pick. Doesn't matter. It's DAC.

It's just noise. A lot of that win was DAC. And Jerry said, DAC was indispensable. Micah was great, but he was tradable. And guess what? The Cowboys are still getting a pass rush. The Cowboys defense right now is better than it was last year. And with Micah, it is.

You can't run on them now with Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams. Yeah, I have questions about Shoddy. I didn't think it was the strongest hire. I thought they should have gone heavy into Mike Vrabel. or the year before into Jim Harbaugh or Sean Payton, and they didn't, and Jerry doesn't necessarily want to pay coaches big money, but I'll say this for Shottie. When teams play hard and don't quit, it's something.

I mean, I thought they were buried. I mean, it was 21 nut, and I'm like, oh, come on, I wanted a good game. It's the late window. Give me a game. I don't want to have to watch Jacksonville in Arizona. Give me a game. And it was. And it's DAC and it's leadership, and it's no quick.

and it's overshone. I don't know. Philly's been tempting fate for weeks and nobody can quite beat him, and then the Cowboys do. To score 24 unanswered points against a really, really good defense, credit to everybody, even Matt Iberfluse.

Everybody gets credit for this one. But more than anything, it is DAC, a lot of noise, unflappable, Jerry's always been committed to him. We all owe them an apology. It's funny you start looking at these first-round deals, And you're like, oh, they're losing Micah.

They couldn't defend the run when they had Micah. Now you can't run on them. So who made the good deal? Who made the bad deal? I said during the Micah deal, good for Green Bay, not terrible for Dallas. Dallas will be fine. They've got to get healthy. They've got to get some draft picks.

So here was Dak and Jerry after. Down 21. What did this team draw upon to get this win? Brotherhood, one another. You know, we got that touchdown before having went and half. time we talked about it late. We've only been hurting ourselves. We know we're capable of doing, come out, stay focused, stick together, and we can win this thing. Nobody blinked, everybody believed it, we got it done. George has been such an integral part of our story.

And he has his story to a degree that that's our story. And I'm so proud for him. Everybody on this team is, and he certainly has absolutely been the difference. as we've played over the last two weeks. And I'll say this, sometimes you have unintended consequences or unintended benefits of a trade. Right? I don't think they thought when George Pickens arrived it would help the run game so much.

But you got Pickens on one side, CD on the other. You can't just do single coverage. You've got to do some bracketing. You've got to play honest. You can't have your safeties to up. So the reality is now the run game's working. The O-line's getting better.

two elite receivers, Dax on fire, two first round picks, don't need a quarterback so could turn two first round picks into five total picks. The great thing about the NFL, it's the League of Hope.

You can be absolutely awful one year, New England, and be a number one seed the following year, potentially New England. Can't do that in baseball. You can't do that in the NBA. It takes time and acquisitions.

That is what is great. If you have a reasonable quarterback and DAC is more than reasonable, look at Dallas from hopeless to hopeful this morning. All right. Used to be a saying, how about them cowboys? How about them bears? First place. Now, Chicago was missing six defensive starters. So let's just start with that.

Their entire linebacking corps was out. So suddenly you go into this game with Pittsburgh thinking, Oh, we can't be boring. We've got to actually, we've got to move the ball down the field. And Caleb Williams, in my opinion, played his best game as a pro. Yeah, he had a bad strip sack for a touchdown. Yeah, he misses open receivers. Yep, four straight game under 60% completions.

But Ben and Caleb is a marriage and both are helping each other out. Ben has provided creative play design and creative play calling, and he's created some structure. and focused on the run game. And Caleb is given Ben Johnson the horsepower that Jared Goff in Detroit could have only dreamed of. It is a marriage, not of convenience, it works. It's never going to be perfect. Caleb gives you all this horsepower, but he does miss some throws.

It's just, you know, it's just part of his game. And I said this, I'll always take the upside for some struggles and accuracy. And Ben and Caleb are both incredibly gifted. Right now, they're the number one big play offense in the NFL. This is Chicago. That's something Green Bay does or McVeigh does or Shanahan does. Or Buffalo and Josh Allen does. No, it's Chicago.

And here's the thing about Caleb. If he's your quarterback, there's two or three guarantees. Big arm, big mobility playmaker. Loves the big play. And Ben Johnson is providing the structure and the running game to allow that. Much easier to throw downfield on second and four. when you don't have negative plays. That's the one thing about Caleb.

There's two or three things we all know about him. But I have said this for years about Caleb. He doesn't get hurt and he doesn't throw picks. If you provide him with a decent structure to play within and a foundational running game, then those big plays are easier. It sucks the linebackers in. It gives him more space.

He's going to make plays with his feet. And he's got a huge arm. But he just needs structure. He needs a run game, and he's obviously coachable because he's completely eliminated the negative plays. 11 games, he's been sacked 11 times. And just think about that. That's not because pass rushes died. It's not just because they improved the offensive line.

If you're sacked 68 times and it's down to 11, you are coachable. And a lot of great athletes in all sports aren't. And Caleb is. So this marriage works. I don't think it's a perfect fit. They're facing a very angry Philadelphia team next. That's not a place I'd want to be. But Ben and Caleb addressed the number one issue.

What did Ben say? No negative plays. We can't have these second and 22s, third and 19s. We can't do that where everybody knows what we're doing. So they're doing play action. They're doing under center. It really works. and here's with Caleb, you don't get the picks.

It's very rare in the history of the NFL that you get all this upside and you don't get a lot of downside. I mean, Marino through picks, Elway through picks, name it through picks, Peyton through picks, lump picks, Cam picks, Josh Allen picks. When you get the massive upside, there's usually a downside. He doesn't throw them. So it's working. They're winning.

it's a little uneven. It's not always a perfect fit. But when you're missing your entire linebacking crew and you're going up against the team in Pittsburgh, don't forget, hammered the Patriots, the Red Hot Patriots, hammered the Colts, who went toe-to-to-toe with Mahomes and Andy Reed.

So wins or wins, here's Ben after. I tell you what, it takes a village. It takes a village. And I'm talking about players. I'm talking about coaches. I'm talking about training staff. I'm talking about everybody in this building. Everybody. And here we are towards the back half the season and our depth is being tested. All right? It would have been so easy to want, man, how are we going to win this game? We got no linebackers.

Ah, and on and on and on and on, man. Credit to you guys, that's number eight. How about that? In a day, how about them cowboys and how about them bears? In one weekend, J. Mack. Mac. Caleb this season, through 11 games, through 11 games, has been sacked 75% less than he was last year at this time. We all talked about it before this season. I don't care about wins. You got to eliminate the negative plays in sacks. Ben Johnson and Caleb in unison have, and that's the difference. It's what Brady talked about in Belichick. They asked Belichick, favorite part of Brady. And that set down interview, he goes, no negative plays.

We always stayed ahead of the change. He didn't talk about not throwing interceptions or a big arm or Brady's. You know, Tom got rid of the ball quickly. Yesterday, I believe, was it Caleb Williams the fastest he's ever, second fastest release time as a pro? So Caleb, all the games he's played yesterday against the Steelers, and we talked about it Friday, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, tease, T.J. Watt, he did once and got burned. You got to get rid of the ball. Yesterday, the second fastest getting rid of the ball in Caleb Williams' career. So again, it comes back to working with the coach, being coachable. And for the record, Ben's got to work with Caleb,

because Jared Goff didn't give you this. Jared Goff didn't have this jet fuel. Really interesting stuff. You know, people say, listen, these games are ugly. Who cares? coaches, you know, Sean McVeigh said it last week on analytics. Everybody's got all the answers. None of the accountability. You got to win games. You need Ws. Otherwise you get fired.

We got two guys getting fired today. Giants got rid of their D.C. Raiders got rid of their O.C. You got to win games. If the Raiders win, Chip Kelly's still working. If the Giants win, that D.C. who's not doing a great job, probably still retains his gig. Got to get Ws. Fairs are.

J-Mack, what a Sunday. Wow. Four overtime games, I think. And I just love the glee that I hear from you and the Chicago Bears. Get another awesome victory beating. Mason Rudolph. Yeah, that's right. Mason Rudolph.

Nice dub for the Bears. Did you see the line for Bears, Eagles this week? You told me to look at the lines. Let me guess. Let me guess. I don't think you can even get within two points of this. Okay. So Philadelphia is at home, awful loss.

This is a tough spot for Chicago. That's a tough one. I would say Philly minus five and a half. Seven. Ooh. Opened at seven. Now, listen, I was expecting a four and a half, something like that. Bears are playing good.

Maybe they'll get one of the linebackers back. I'm stunned at that. And the Eagles, I don't know what the problems are. They're not Jalen Hertz, but they got some problems somewhere. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Chiefs. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. 45 minutes from now, Matt Hasselbeck, too.

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quarters. That was about the fourth quarter in overtime. Kansas City was tough and resilient and fighting their butt off, and they were clutched, 236 yards, fourth quarter and overtime. another team india had a 29 lead in a fumble recovery and choke like a cat on a hairball Daniel jones last three weeks regressed into the new york giant daniel jones chiefs are not a great team but they fight and scratch and claw and they've still got that george foreman punch okay and dynasties do not usually end abruptly Kobe and shack they got to to a finals, lost to the Pistons, but they got there. And Brady, before he left, 12 games and a playoff appearance. And Manny Pacchio, I was there against Dennis Thurman, won't a fight at 40.

Dynasties don't end abruptly. They fight, they scratch, they claw, little like Thanksgiving. Little bit of a mess. Fire alarm goes off twice, but by the time the meals delivered yesterday, it's pretty good. And that's Kansas City. Indy had this game wrapped, get out the bow, late shopping, it was done. But even then, the game was not about Daniel Jones and his ceiling. That was going to happen. Right, September, October, you get fooled a lot on quarterback plate. Weather's perfect, right?

Your roster's not injured yet as a quarterback. You have all your weapons. Then all of a sudden you lose your number two receiver and your number one right tag. You're down to a third string running back. Asked Justin Herbert last several years. Now Daniel Jones didn't quite look like it did. And Kansas City doesn't look like they used to either. But the reality is dynasties do not die abruptly.

Kansas City now has Denver at home, the Chargers at home, the Texans at home, and the Cowboys are probably feeling themselves, and they face Dallas next. champions are about executing at their best. Tom Brady through pick sixes and Super Bowls. You can have mistakes. That game was all about the fourth quarter and all about overtime. And in that space, fourth and overtime, the Chiefs had 14 points, 13 first downs, and 236 total yards.

And the Colts had no points and no first downs. Here's Mahomes after the season saving W. This is exactly what we needed. To win against a really good football team and the game's not going your way, you could have folded in that situation. We needed a win like this, and now we should try to build off of it. I mean, it's, you know, the old saying, dead to rights, it was over. And this is what, you know, this is the older Lakers or the older Patriots.

You just fight and scratch and claw and it's imperfect and it's ugly, but all I care about, I sit down for the meal, what's it look like in the end, and it's a win. What a wild day yesterday, J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Speaking of wild, the Raiders organization is a wild dumpster fire. Chip Kelly got fired last night, Colin.

He is the highest paid offensive coordinator in the league, and he lasted a whopping 11 games. Oh my gosh. Did see a crazy stat that Pete Carroll in all his years in Seattle never fired a coordinator? He's now fired two in the last three weeks. So things are really going sideways for the Raiders. Gino Smith was sacked ten times. I don't know how close are you watch that. It looked to me, I mean, I had the Browns.

It looked to me like the Raiders' offensive line just quit. Like they just didn't care. I'll say this. Not all bad teams are the same. Not all bad teams have a coach like Kevin Stefansky and a GM like Andrew Barry. And I'll argue this, I'll die on this hill. Cleveland has talent. Okay, that running back, baller, a couple old linemen that are elite, the best pass rusher, the Denzel wards.

Jerry Judy drives me crazy. He's talented. Oh, God. David and Joku. So don't tell me, of all the teams in the league right now, we lump into bad teams. There is no Stefansky at any of those teams. I think Barry's an elite GM. I think none of them have the best player arguably in the.

the whole league in Miles Garrett. Cleveland may not have the quarterback they ideally want. They tried with Watson, but the Browns have talent and I'll die on that hill all day. Yeah, they just did the quarterback situation is unsettled. Shadour was solid. I'm sure we'll talk about him later. But this is more about the Raiders, Colin. You could argue right now that they're the worst team in the league.

Yeah. And this is, this is bad for Pete Carroll. I talked last week on this show. Hey, is he going to be one and done? I mean, Colin, he handpicked Gino Smith. Gino Smith does not look like an NFL. I don't even know if he's a backup next year anymore. Do you think Pete Carroll survives this season?

No, I think it's over at the end of the season. That's my guess. Damn. Yeah, I'm with you. Raiders are, they're worse than the Jets, and that's saying them a lot. Yeah. All right, let's go to Sunday night football. It was a snoozer.

Rams just bludging the Buccaneers. I mean, it was over basically from Jump Street. 34-7 was the final. This was 21-0 before I sat down with, like, my milk and cookies. Matt Stafford was phenomenal. He is on an absolute heater. He's 37 years old. He's throwing no look passes.

27 consecutive touchdown passes without a pick. Here's DeVante Adams gassing up his quarterback. He's playing like the most valuable player in the league. I mean, you can see it in the numbers, the way he's taking command of the huddle and the offense. You know, the way him and Sean put things together and work throughout the week together to put together a good product for us. just all around. I mean, he's a great leader, and obviously knows how to put points on the board and keep his office moving.

Listen, Devonte Adams, the Raider situation wasn't great. Either was the Jets, but he got Aaron in his prime, and now he's getting this Stafford. I'm going to get him to the Hall of Fame, right? I mean, here's the thing. They didn't give up anything to get him. He was a free agent. So, I mean, it's amazing they were able to get him for a very reasonable price. The Rams, let's be honest. They have two number one receivers. They have two, even as much as we like T. Higgins, he's not Jamar Chase. The Eagles have two number one receivers. The Rams have two number one receivers, which, again, the Cowboys right now look like they have two number one receiver. I always saw Pickens is a really good two. Pickens is playing like a one.

So when you have, it's not a coincidence. When you have two great receivers like the Rams and the Cowboys, oh, you can run the football. You can't cheat on the Rams. They throw their tight ends. They can run, play action. They can go deep. Crossers. They are the cleanest, most efficient team.

No penalties, no turnovers. The Rams are one of those teams. I mean, think about Philadelphia how good they are. Philly goes long stretches where they look inept. I mean, the Rams, Tampa is a legitimately good division-winning team potentially. Not even competitive. I don't know. The Baker-Mafield stuff doesn't sound good.

It sounded like an AC joint sprain. They don't know if he's going to be able to play this week. Just real quick, though. I know you said the Eagles stink. Their offensive coordinator situation is a disaster. Like, can we get Jalen Hurtt him with McVe? I mean, McVeigh is amazing. McVeigh gets golf.

Go to the Super Bowl. McVeigh trades somehow gets Stafford, wins a Super Bowl, and now they're the number one seed. By the way, Colin, the Eagles loss is kind of damaging for them getting the number one seed, although they do have the tiebreaker over the Rams. I just don't know if SOFI is a big home field advantage for the Rams. It's a big weather advantage. Yeah, you don't have to go outdoors, but the Rams could win outdoors.

Yes, but it's a huge advantage. I mean, the stadium may be 55% Eagle fans. No snow, 72 degrees. That's what they work out in and train. There is no question. I watched a lot of Dan Fouch teams that were magical offensively. You send them to Cincinnati. It's nine degrees.

It's different. So number one in the AFC, I don't think matters as much because most of the good teams over there all playing bad weather. But for the Rams or like the Lions. Lions are they're going to be live. Yeah. Home field's a big deal. And Green Bay should have their track team of receivers healthy. I'm just saying if Rams host the NFC title game,

it really opens things up for the NFC makes a lot of teams interesting. Final story, Colin, we've got to talk about this Lane Kiffin stuff. This is just, I'm floored by this. Lane Kiffin is now, you know, deciding between staying at Ole Miss, going to LSU, going to Florida, all kinds of nonsense out there. So the AD at Ole Miss has spoken up and said he's expecting a decision after Friday's Egg Bowl. So that's interesting.

Before we were hearing reports that he wanted an answer before the game, now the AD has lightened up and said, smartly, I want an answer after the game. You don't want people worried about that. But in the end, I think we just have to be totally forthright. I like Lane. I text Lane. I think he's a brilliant guy.

I think he's a brilliant football coach. I think he should stay or go to the NFL. I don't think he should bounce around in the SEC. to take? Yeah, stay at Ole Miss, not because you want to be a legend there, because they're going to pay a 12 million bucks, you got it rolling, your offense is great, or go to the NFL, because, you know, it's college football, NFL's better coaching, you're an elite offensive coach or a former player, but my gut feeling is Lane has kind of done Ole Miss. He's not somebody that's going to, you know, wear the high school letterman jacket and look, Lane is looking for new challenges. LSU is

always been viewed as first or second greatest job in the greatest conference. Georgia and LSU. Those jobs are NFL factories. So Lane could get the NFL feel without the NFL ownership or breathing down your neck. Yeah, and the goofy LSU situation, I think, knocks it down a peg. Let me just add this, Colin. I looked at Ole Miss is a seven and a half point favorite against Mississippi State, right? So they should win, but going to Stark Vegas, wacky things happen, a rivalry game.

Do you know Ole Miss is going to the playoffs, and they're basically one bad quarter against Georgia away from being undefeated? Yeah. And he would walk away from a team going to the playoffs. They could win the national championship. I don't think they would, but they could. And he would walk away from that opportunity to go coach in Bachelor Rouge? That's insane.

I don't understand that. So that's why I think he's staying. I think Nick Saban talked about this. College football's got to solve this. In the NFL, you don't hire somebody that has. a job in season. Cannot do that. But in college, you can.

So in life, when you can do something, aggressive people are going to do something. LSU doesn't give a rip about Ole Miss. The SEC is all about W's. So this is a college football issue, not a Lane Kiffin issue. I mean, the reality is, if a tax system in America was an honor system,

everybody would cheat on their taxes. You can't because of the IRS. You have to set up boundaries or aggressive people are just going to do what aggressive people do. So you can blame Lane. He's not, he didn't create it. He's a symptom of it. He didn't cause it.

Yeah. So the other thing is before the playoff, right, Colin? There were exhibition bowl games. And if a coach leaves before you're playing in the peach bowl, who cares? But the playoff, that to me is totally different. I'll be honest. I'll be surprised if he leaves. I know Florida LSU.

I just, that would be shocking. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. So I always said this, all the years I've been doing this and relying on executives in the NFL, who I text and talk to, I'd never seen a quarterback that I viewed as a mid-first, mid-second round quarterback going to the fifth round. And then there were stories that came out about Shadour Sanders that kind of explained it, a little boozy. And it's like, oh, okay, okay, okay.

But I didn't know that before the draft. but I always said about him in college. I said like he moves well, he's super accurate. He's got kind of a casualness to him. Like he's not, you know, his dad's famous. He's been at famous places. He's not intimidated by the moment. His confidence doesn't ebb and flow.

You know, I think he lacks maturity and self-awareness, but there's a looseness and a bring-it-on attitude that I, you know, I didn't think he was going to shrink. I predicted Friday. He'd go 13 of 18, one touchdown and one horrific pick. and he went close to that. But unlike Dylan Gabriel, you do get big plays out of Shadur.

And that matters. And if Gino Smith is a franchise quarterback, so is Shadur Sanders. And I thought Kevin Stafansky, smart game plan. Rolled him out. At the goal line, they used the Wildcat,

and there were very few negative plays. Obviously, was coachable and listened. So there was a lot of stuff I like. I didn't, I never really pre-draft or during the draft understood why he fell. Antonio Pierce, the former Raider coach, said this weekend, we had him as a first-round player. So, and then you hear stuff and, you know, the speeding tickets and you're like, he's got to grow up.

But I thought he'd go 13 to 18 with a horrible pick and he went 11 for 20 with a horrible pick. But overall, you got some big plays. there's no reason to go back to Dylan Gabriel. Let's let this thing play out. And, you know, it's like in a weird way, Shador Sanders is the perfect holiday fling. You play around for the next six or seven weeks,

and then eventually Cleveland moves on to a steady. Or somebody they're going to have, you know, a 15-year relationship with. But there's nothing wrong with a holiday fling. Hey, you connect again on Facebook, hang out for six or seven weeks. it is a good time. But it's not like, it's not a marriage. I don't think he has great traits. He doesn't have a huge arm.

He's not hyper-athletic. He doesn't have a cannon. He's kind of loose and fun and capable. I thought it was a lot of fun. And I, you know, the conspiracy theory crowd, you can't listen to that nonsense. I don't think Shadur is a 30-year marriage. He's a good time.

And I thought yesterday was a good thing. time. It was fun. I watched. I would have never watched that game with Dillard Gabriel. So his traits are okay. He's not big. He's not super athletic in his own division. He's not the athlete of Lamar, and he's not nearly as good in the pocket as burrow. And who knows what Pittsburgh's doing at quarterback. They'll probably figure it out, you know, next labor day. And they never would want to get ahead of schedule. But I mean, he went from fifth round, to fourth string to a first win. He went from a scout team to a savior.

And it was a lot of fun. I mean, maybe like Colorado, the retirees jersey, it's Cleveland. But overall, he's kind of, he's not affected by it. He's not intimidated by it. I saw a quarterback playing for the Vikings that literally drive to drive. It feels like his confidence goes up and down. Shooter's kind of, whatever, casual, bring it on. here he was after his win.

You got to go out there and perform. There's no choice, no question. Nobody cares if this was one week of prep. Who cares? So a lot of people want to see me fail, and it ain't going to happen. Yeah, I don't think a lot of people want to see him fail. I was one of those with Tebow.

I never rooted against Tebow, but I said it's not divine intervention. It's a great defense and Matt Prater a kicker. I don't, there's no reason to root a guy. against Chador. His dad's been a little bit of a, you know, prima donna, a little diva and Dian. I think he's a likable kid that needs to grow up a little bit. I wish he played with a little more urgency. Everything kind of feels casual. But it was a good time yesterday. Not all relationships have to be 30-year marriages. Holiday flings are okay. Browns have two first

picks, two first round picks. Their only problem with Shador, going to win some of these games down the stretch. And they may not be able to get to the Mendoza pick. And if Dante Morris stays for another year at Oregon,

I think there's only one or two first round quarterbacks. Maybe it's a good problem to have. In Chicago it's the herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what?

We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts.

Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you

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the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself.

I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jenchian went. I mean, she went down at three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lerner Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world. right now and I actually can win on any surface because if she's serving, well, good luck.

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Thanksgiving Day, Fox is serving up a classic NFC North rivalry. As Jordan Love and the Packers take on Jared Goff and the Lions, coverage begins at 11 a.m. Eastern. with the pregame show live on location from Detroit. Thanksgiving Day on Fox. It's a great game. My wife grew up in NFC North Territory in Michigan and Chicago. And so very rarely in her life have the lions and the bears been good. And I said it's a great game because the bears are on a heater.

Green Bay and Detroit are talented, but I don't feel great about either one of them. I mean, yesterday Green Bay clearly didn't think J.J. McCarthy could beat them and had the most conservative game plan of any Green Bay team I've ever seen. So we'll get to that later. But I want to talk about Philadelphia, lose to Dallas. So we saw this script two years ago. Eagles got off to an unbelievable 10-1 start. Then it got real noisy, and then they circled the drain, and it went sideways in a hurry.

So I'm seeing it again. Don't tell me everything's okay. I've been preaching this for six months. Something's not right. You keep telling me, Nick Seriani. They've got two elite wide receivers, a top three O line, a superstar running back, and they lead the NFL in three and outs. Stop telling me everything's okay.

Well, Nick Seriani, his strength is managing a locker room. What is he a babysitter? I mean, that's part of it, but you've got to be more than that. Sequin Barclay, can somebody explain it? He looks like a number two back. I mean, last year we thought he was the second best back after Barry Sanders. we'd ever seen. So if you're an offensive coach and unquestionably the defense is the strength of your team, you have a stacked offensive roster and yet our bottom 10 in offense, don't tell me

everything's okay. And the other thing you're like, hey, Nick Seriani, he is great at managing the locker room. Then why was it Big Dom their security guard that had to facilitate the A.J. Brown Jeffrey Lurie meeting. Isn't that the coach? Not the security guard? I mean, Phil Jackson, for the record, he was great at managing egos too. So was Joe Torrey.

But, you know, Joe Torrey could fill out the lineup card, and Phil Jackson and Tex winner were the architects of the triangle offense, and Phil was a great in-game, late-game chess player. So, I mean, everybody just keeps telling me, well, they're a little uneven,

uneven. A couple weeks ago, they led the NFL in punts. How? It's not like they played in their division. Dallas was wonky defensively before all the moves. The Giants are bad defensively. So I mean, we all keep blaming Jalen Hertz, myself included. I'm over that.

Jalen Hertz, he is what he is. You can't be punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, punt, and tell me, well, that's all Jalen Hurts. I saw Baker Mayfield win a game with one practice and Josh Dobbs win a game with no practices. Jailie, you can't keep blaming Jalen hurts for all this stuff. I mean, 24 straight points by Dallas. I mean, that's what you do against the Titans. That's what you do against the Raiders.

They don't do that against Philadelphia's roster. Here's Jalen after the loss. It's a matter of the execution, the discipline, and the focus, and what we do and collectively, we just have to take a step in that. It's been a lot of instances where it's showing. showing up in this guidance but we've been able to figure it out and will ourselves so a win and tonight we didn't you know we we played a hell of a first half and and then we didn't play you know not even a close enough to our standard in the second half we've been

before we'll figure it out and they may figure it out and if they do let's give jalen hurts the credit or big dom so i mean it's not the end of the world they're going to be in a really bad mood. They're a touchdown. J. Max says on Friday over the Bears. It's a rough spot for the Bears. But it's just, you've been telling me for months, it's all okay. And I'm like, I saw this two years ago. It looks a lot like two years ago. I don't even know what's happened to Sey Juan Barkley. I have no idea. I mean, is it like arm fatigue in baseball where you go, you know, you go deep in the playoffs, you come back for spring and there's arm fatigue. I don't know what it is. I just know last year we were talking about one of the great

running backs of all time. He looks like a backup. And again, they have two great receivers They have good tight ends. So let me just say this about the cowboys. Now, for years and years, I have been critical of quarterbacks or coaches who on Wednesday at the podium. It's not linebackers, corners, it's leadership positions, wearing the hat backwards at the Wednesday podium. I don't like it. I've never said anything, though, about a coach in a locker room wearing his hat on backwards. I've never talked about that, and I've got to be honest.

I kind of like this yesterday from Shottie. Hey, we got a lot of cool things to celebrate, but I got a question first. Can you win the game in the first court? No. Can you win the game in the second quarter? Did we spot them 21 points? Yeah. What about?

Hey, can you win the game in the third quarter? No. What about that? When you play only one game a week, those locker room things are so good. I'll be honest. I've never really coveted the backward hat like most of my audience. That doesn't bother me.

The post game backwards hat, that may become a tradition. On this show, we may promote it and market it. Wednesday podium don't love it. But I will say about Brian Schottenheimer, he's an offensive coach. What is my rule? How's your side of the ball? Brent Venables in Oklahoma, his side of the ball's great.

So, Schoenheimer's job is offense. Dax reeling, the O-line's getting better, the run game is working. Now, 15 years ago, he was thought of as the hot coach. And then there was a lot of people that felt he wasn't current, he wasn't keeping up, whatever.

I was one of those people. So he's been really, really good. Now, again, they're 5-5-1. They play the Chiefs. I don't like him in that game. But there is an energy. Listen, Jerry Jones, I think it's pretty well established. He doesn't.

The parcels and the Jimmy Johnson, they're going to keep, they're going to keep Jera at bay. They don't want him in the room. They don't want him talking to the media. And Jerry's like, it's my toy. I'm sorry. It's a lot more fun than selling oil or fun in it. I like doing this whole GM thing. And Jerry's probably a little bit better than anybody gives him.

credit for. And I didn't think Schottenheimer, I didn't think he was empowering him. I thought it was kind of a weak move. But you have to admit, the offense, the passing game right now, it's extraordinary. It's like the Rams. They're just playing at a different level. So he deserves a lot of credit. Colin right, calling wrong. The whole day, I mean, from Chador Sanders, we got coaches getting fired today, to the Dallas Cowboys, to the Colts having it and losing it. It was a really, really wild Sunday. And I think what's fascinating, Thanksgiving is always weird. It's a short week. Do you get the best effort? The Green Bay Detroit game, to me, is really interesting. Detroit does not feel nearly as precise as last year.

Jemir Gibbs saved them yesterday. So, you know, I didn't love it when Detroit lost both coordinators, excellent coordinators and hired only in the building. I didn't like it. Well, I think I've been proven right. They're not as sharp, but they're just so talented. The lions are so talented. But I don't like the way they feel. And Green Bay, I thought this weekend, they did cover, but that game plan, that was an

indictment of J.J. McCarthy. They're like, we're just going to do field goals. We're going to make him drive down the field. You got nothing deep. Beat us that way. And Green Bay was right. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?

We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where SportsSlice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline.

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Jen, she's an outsider to win the French win. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHart Women's Sports. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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