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All sorts of interesting teams.
How good are they?
Our herd hierarchy, our second ranking of NFL teams, will we squeeze the Raiders in there?
And what are we to do with the New England Patriots?
Joy Taylor is joining me after a captivating look at a Raider team that feels perfectly welcome in Vegas.
I can't wait to see Raiders fans in that stadium.
It'll be amazing.
It did make me miss Vegas a little bit.
I know.
It did.
Talk about a Chamber of Commerce Night for Vegas.
Yeah, it looks great.
You see the strip.
I had buddies like, God, I miss Vegas.
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of either way. Good stuff. Let's start with this. Drew Brees was not very good last night. I have a
rule with quarterbacks. Trust your eyes. Take the emotion out of it. Take down the pom-poms.
Trust your eyes. Then look at the data. Said that a couple years ago, Mitch Trubisky made the playoffs.
And I said, eh, it's a lot of smoking mirrors. That's mostly coaching. What do we think now in Mitch
Trubisky? I said it with Baker Mayfield. Maybe he's a franchise quarterback. He's not a number one
pick. Look at him. I said it with Kyler Murray. Second start. Oh, hell. That's special.
Drew Brees, trust your eyes.
Look at the data.
He's old.
He's declining.
He doesn't throw the ball down the field.
He was clearly the second best quarterback in the field.
Derek Carr was carving up an excellent defense.
Drew Brees struggled against an average defense.
Old quarterbacks don't want to hear it.
They get defensive.
They get snippy.
They've been American royalty.
They're iconic.
They make $30 million or more a year.
And when the end is near, they get crusty.
but the Raiders don't even have a great defense.
They didn't have a sack.
Drew Brees said, we're out of sync.
Why? You've been there forever.
So's the coach.
It's mostly the same pieces without Michael Thomas.
Raiders didn't have two of their best offensive linemen.
They were fine.
Again, Derek Carr was the better quarterback.
He had a livelier arm.
After the first quarter, he started throwing the ball down the field.
He gave us a few arm angles.
He was more mobile than athletic.
He had more juice.
He had more energy.
against the better defense.
Trust your eyes.
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
Breeze is accurate.
So is Kirk Cousins.
Breeze is excellent at the line of scrimmage.
So is Kirk Cousins.
Half of the Saints completions to a team without a pass rush
or to running backs.
Trust your eyes.
Then look at the data.
The data tells you in a league with these hyper-athletic
quarterbacks,
Kyler and Russell and Aaron and Lamar and Mahomes,
the saint's ceiling is dink and dunk and dink and dunk.
What about Michael Thomas?
What about him?
He's not really a rangey deep thread.
He's just a great receiver, 17 yards and in, and he's great.
It's okay.
Now, Drew Breeze afterwards will tell you he's still very good at what he's supposed to do.
Here it is.
I've always evaluated myself on being a great decision.
maker. And so at the end of the day, I'm going to throw the ball of the open guy.
Blue the ball down the field, score points, help us win football games. So that's my job.
My job is to help put everybody around me in the best position to succeed. And that's all
I'm focused on. That usually can win games in this league. But again, what is the standard for
Drew Brees? What is the standard now for the Saints? They keep winning the division.
that's not just the standard. Completing accurate line of scrimmage, that's a lot of Kirk
Cousins and he doesn't get to Super Bowls. The league is changing. The business is changing.
The rules are changing. It is benefiting mobile quarterbacks. Wide receivers have never been
more valuable, free touchdowns all over the league. And the Saints don't get any of them. So until
further notice, I have two tiers of quarterbacks in the NFL. I've got the
Oh, my God, tier.
That's Russell, Wilson, Mahomes, and Lamar Jackson.
And then the special tier, and until further notice, breeze out Derek Carr in.
Oh, by the way, Carson Wentz, you're on the clock.
I'll give you two more weeks.
That's officially what it is.
Nothing personal.
Trust your eyes.
Put down the pom-poms.
We have stuff we can see.
The better quarterback last night.
Throwing with arm angles, livelier, letting her rip, a lot of velocity.
throwing the tight ends, wide receivers, slot receivers, running backs against the better defense
was absolutely Derek Carr.
Derek Carr was a better quarterback.
Well, Drew was on the road.
There was no crowd.
The Monday Night Football Broadcasting guy.
That was the closest three people were together.
That was the crowd.
I thought Derek Carr was a much better quarterback last night.
All right.
Let me shift to this.
So there was a comment yesterday by a broadcast.
at another network of former steeler Ryan Clark and said,
Cam Newton's actually better for the Patriots than Tom Brady.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
But his quote was specifically for young receivers.
He said Jacobi Myers, Damir Bird, Nikiel Harry are better off with Cam Newton than Tom Brady could ever give these guys.
That's not a knock on their careers.
It's not in any way to negate Brady's greatness.
They needed Cam Newton.
This was a match made in heaven.
Now, I will say this.
Jacobi Myers and the other kid don't matter.
I could care less.
Nekeel Harry? Oh no, Cam Newton's better for him.
Cam Newton sees Nikiel Harry as a fresh, young, healthy, talented weapon.
Tom Brady saw him last year as a guy that couldn't get to a spot
because he didn't know the playbook well enough,
for he hadn't been in the system long enough.
Tom Brady was frustrated with Nikiel Harry because Tom had been there forever and
memorized the system, and Nikiel Harry was learning it.
So that I agree with. Cam is great for Nikiel Harry.
and by the way, the Patriots can't draft wide receivers, this cannot be a bust.
This has to work.
Nikiel Harry has to work.
You can't pass to Julian Edelman 29 times a game.
Nikiel Harry has to work.
And I do think Cam is better for Nikiel Harry.
But let me just give you the difference between Cam and Brady, because we're going to hear this a lot now.
Because Cam's going to have some success.
And Brady's going to have some success.
Think about it this way.
Here's my analogy.
Tom Brady is the great.
conductor. And when you have the great orchestra, Welker, he had good running backs, Randy Moss,
a young gronk, Brady created the greatest music we've ever heard. Cam is a lead singer.
Give him the mic. You don't even notice the drummer. The orchestra, the symphony becomes a little
less crucial. I mean, in Cam's MVP, or ask yourself, do you remember who their number one,
number two receivers were? Yeah, nobody does. Cam, when you have a garage band and marginal
talent, you know, like New England right now has, Cam's a great fit. Cam's a playmaker.
Cam grabs that thing, and he is in the front of the stage, and he is just bellowing and a showstopper.
he is the show.
And this is a garage band.
There's not much here.
Now, Tom Brady has moved down to Tampa, and that is quite an orchestra.
7-8-9 weapons at his disposal.
And Tampa last year had another conductor.
His name was James, and he would forget songs occasionally and lose the baton.
Tampa is perfect for Brady.
When you give him weapons, he is the great conductor.
He gets everybody in the right spot.
He plays to their strengths.
He puts the ball in the right spot.
He doesn't turn it over much.
He takes just enough risks.
Cam's always been more lead singer.
It's not as much about the orchestra.
And when you give Cam nothing to work with, he's better than Tom.
I mean, Sunday, I don't believe Tom Brady could have gone to Seattle,
gotten into a shootout with the Seattle Cioxx and Russell Wilson,
who's playing virtual perfect football,
and Tom Brady would have gotten them within one play and three yards of winning.
No, I think Cam Newton with this roster and this team and no deep threat and below-average tight ends
and the greatest offensive line coach left,
and they had eight guys opt-out and free agents left,
and they don't have a kicker, they can totally trust.
And they came with a play of beating maybe the first, second, or third best team in the league.
This is about Cam.
And Nikiel Harry can't be a bust.
And he's better with Cam.
But I think when New England was at least presenting Tom with some gifts,
I think Tom's the best ever.
There are times that Cam has had better talent than I think the media and fans would like to admit.
And it hasn't, he hasn't always elevated those players.
But these players, they got ceilings.
Cam on his best, doesn't.
And so I think it's okay to just admit, like, Cam works for this New England group,
and Tom will eventually work really well with that group in Tampa,
and Tom wouldn't be quite as good with this group.
I don't think he would.
I don't think he would go to Seattle and get within a play of beating the Seahawks.
Cam Newton was on Boston Radio this morning, and he admits this is a really, really good fit for him on a multitude of levels.
I do admire and love the culture of the Patriots.
And it's been a place for me that's been therapeutic.
This is a place that has been kind of rather challenging for my growth and it's making me better.
And also, you know, it has been a place that has given me everything for my need at this particular point of time of my life.
Cam's the artist, he's the rock star that right now in this moment,
New England needs.
It's working.
It's fun.
Oh, by the way, they host the Raiders next Sunday and what I think is going to be the most entertaining game of the weekend.
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You know, Jerry Jones is the one that pushed for the Rams to move.
from St. Louis, kind of a dying city in America.
Corporate headquarters have moved out into Los Angeles.
Jerry Jones pushed for the Oakland Raiders who had left before to move to Las Vegas.
Jerry Jones has great business instincts.
It's nothing against Oakland, but the stadium was antiquated.
The A's have tried to leave.
The Warriors just left over to the other side of town.
And in the end, last night felt right.
John Gruden in Vegas.
Raiders rebel brand in Vegas.
The Rebels, the running rebels were outlaws.
The Raiders are outlaws and every league needs a villain and a rebel and a maverick and the guys that push back.
The stadium.
Raider colors, reflective to the city of lights.
I don't think I've ever seen a first game in a city that felt more right.
I wanted to go to Vegas.
I wanted to hop on a jet and go to Vegas.
I started lighting up cigars and drinking cocktails.
It felt perfect.
Vegas is lights, action, and juice.
And the Raiders offense, and Derek Carr slinging it, and Gruden talking felt absolutely right.
Everything worked.
The Raiders are actually a very good brand.
They've been down, though, for a long time.
I said this years ago about the Warriors.
The Bay Area was always a great NBA town.
It just were bad for 15, 20 years.
Like some cities in this country are struggling to keep up.
They can't get legislation passed.
They can't get a new stadium.
they have funding issues. It happens.
I lived in a city called Hartford.
It was dying. They couldn't keep their NHL franchise.
It's not up to the NHL to help cities get their economies right.
But Vegas's son.
It's no state tax. It's entertainment.
It's a food and entertainment mecca.
And the NFL is number one entertainment ticket on five different American networks.
It's the only TV show in America that's number one on five different networks.
Vegas and the Raiders is right.
And not all these expansions are.
We all know the Chargers felt more like San Diego than Los Angeles.
Maybe they always will.
There are times we have moved teams.
It wouldn't feel right if Philadelphia's Eagles left or if Chicago's Bulls left.
But this is the perfect move.
This divorce works.
This is it.
That stadium looks like the Raiders.
That city feels like the Raiders.
And by the way, one of the things I like about,
Las Vegas having an NFL team.
Because I always fought for this.
I didn't think baseball would work there.
I'm surprised hockey's worked there.
I never was for NBA.
Too many games, not a big corporate headquarter.
But the NFL is eight Sundays.
And ask yourself, the NFL is a fall and winter league.
It gets really cold in most of America by November 15th.
If you live in Kansas City, you live in Denver.
You look at the Raiders schedule, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Baltimore,
many of the great teams, most of them in this league are in bad weather.
oh honey, let's go to a road game this year for our local team.
Any place better than Vegas?
Any place you're going to get better food, better room for the price, and a cheaper flight than Vegas?
The answer is no.
That was a home run debut.
How many of you watched that game like joy and thought, God, I miss Vegas?
That's great for the city.
It's great for the team.
It was great for Gruden.
I'm watching this locker room stuff last night.
That's one of the best debuts I've ever seen.
By any team relocating, moving, expansion, that's as good as it gets.
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Gruden is such an entertainer, too.
What's that?
Gruden is such an entertainer.
Well, he was, when I worked with him at ESPN, and I told people this all the time,
is that the Monday night football crews, and this is nothing personal,
but when he left, there was a hole.
I mean, Gruden, it was just
Tariko Gruden and John Talk.
And they didn't need a third guy.
They didn't need, I mean, it was,
they didn't need like a guy in the crowd.
Like, John Gruden just took the oxygen out of the room.
He's just a special, unique, one-of-a-kind personality.
He is.
I mean, it's just, you can tell something.
And by the way, the NFL has got a bunch of old, boring coaches.
They need Gruden.
Gruden's great for the guy.
the NFL business. Because he's old school and he's full of life, full of life. So Justin Herbert was
impressive in his NFL debut on Sunday. And even though head coach Anthony Lynn said after the
game that Tyra Taylor will be the starter, healthy, Lynn did think there's just a good starting
point for the rookie. I thought he came in and gave us a chance to win. But there's a lot that you
don't know. There's a lot, you know, we didn't get done with Justin on the field yesterday.
He's a backup for a reason. You know, he's a rookie. And there's a lot. And there's a lot.
that he needs to learn about this game.
I know we can win without either quarterback,
but the veteran quarterback right now gives us the best chance to win.
Well, Tyrod was reportedly out because of an adverse reaction
to a pain-killing injection to treat a rib injury.
He's said to be recovering well and got treatment at the hospital.
Herbert was 22 of 33 for one passing touchdown, one rushing touchdown.
Against the Super Bowl champs.
Against the Super Bowl defending champion.
And given five minutes heads up.
with no first team reps all week.
Look.
You look big.
I have a lot of respect for Anthony Lynn and I have a lot of respect for Tyrod Taylor.
But after seeing Herbert and as you started the show by saying, with quarterbacks, your eyes don't lie to you.
Like you see what you see.
You can make up whatever narrative you want.
But at the end of the day, how they perform, you can see if it's them or if it's someone else, right?
Very quickly.
Justin Herbert having that performance, if Tyrod gets back out there and has one or two bad
weeks in a row. It's just, that's just how it's going to go. We've seen him now. Herbert just
looked big and athletic. He looked, by the way, he looked like a first round quarterback.
You're like, oh, he's bigger than Tyrod. He's got a bigger arm than Tyrod. And he's a little
fat. He's like, that's what a first round quarterback now, they don't all look like that.
Right. But that's what they look like. You're like, like, Joe Burrell, when you look at him,
you're like, oh, he just makes guys miss. He throws 60 times. He throws 60 times. He's not over. First
quarterbacks, even if they're erratic in their first start, they shouldn't look completely
physically overwhelmed.
Or mentally overwhelmed.
Or mentally overwhelmed.
They're throwing six interceptions.
Like I just thought the eye test was Herbert may be erratic and may miss some audibles that
Tyrod would pick up, but God, he looked big.
The other issue is we kind of know what Tyrod is, which is a good quarterback,
playoff level quarterback, but we sort of know.
where he is in the league at this point.
What Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow have is hope and potential.
And that is an intangible that someone like Tyra Taylor doesn't have.
So when you see Justin Herbert out there and you're like, wow, he got five minutes to find out he was starting.
He's a rookie quarterback.
Did a pretty decent job against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Now, if that wasn't Justin Herbert, we'd be like, all right, well, who is this guy?
Five years in the league is this is what it is.
He's a rookie, and that was his first start.
So the potential that he could reach plays a role in whether people are going to want him out there again.
So Tyrod cannot have a couple bad weeks, or that's just how it's going to go.
So the Eagles have not gotten off to a good start this season.
We lost both of their games by double digits.
And former Eagle, Brian Westbrook, says there's plenty of reasons for the team's own two start.
But Carson Wentz is going to have to be the one to turn things around.
As bad as they were against Washington, things got worse.
And, you know, a lot has to land a defeat as a quarterback.
Of course, a lot of have to land at the feet of Doug Peterson, Jim Swarth.
I mean, there's a lot of things to go around.
I don't see anything that's going to change outside of Carson being the guy that, you see, yeah, I said it last week.
I'll say it again this week.
Unless he can be Patrick Mahomes like, then we don't have a chance.
He's probably right, but the thing about being Patrick Mahomes like is there's only one Patrick Mahomes.
Well, and also, there is some good news here.
If we both acknowledge Wenz's a mess.
Yeah.
Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins are at best developing.
I'm not sure if they're emerging, they're developing,
and the Cowboys right now are lucky to be one-on-one.
So you've got time here.
This is not a division where, like, if you're Arizona and your own two
and you watch the Rams and Seahawks,
you're like, we can't be O'N-3 or it's done.
Philadelphia's got a long runway here to figure out what the issue is,
and I don't know what it is, but there's time here.
This is not urgent.
They don't have to win Sunday.
Well, we also know that Carson Wentz has the ability to put the team on his back because he did it last year.
Now, if he's the same guy this year, like that's the question.
We don't really know what's going on with the Eagles.
But as you mentioned, everyone's kind of got to calm down.
We feel like we have a ton of information on everybody, but we really don't.
It's only week two.
It feels like we've watched so much football because we're all just consuming as much as we can because we missed it so much.
But it's only week two.
And NFC East is what it is.
They have the Bengals this week.
That's a good, at home.
It's a nice place to be.
That's a good get-back game.
And then they have the 49ers at San Francisco, but they're banged up right now.
No Garapolo.
And no Bosa.
So that's not a terrible place to be.
So very quickly they could be two and two.
Right.
So we probably need to pause a little bit on the panic, but they do not look great.
Finally, the Clipper season didn't end the way they hoped, felt to the Nuggets in the second round.
And after the game seven loss, Paul George reportedly addressed his teammates, but it didn't
go very well. According to Sham Sharania,
George was urging the team
to stay committed and for everyone to
return next season to make another title run,
but his comments were met with some
eye rolls and
bewilderments. I love that word.
Particularly because of his poor play in the
series. Shams also noted
that George had multiple verbal spats
with teammates during the postseason, and
the Clippers players reportedly felt he wasn't holding
himself accountable. Remember after
game seven, Paul George told the media
we never felt like this was a championship or bus year for us.
So probably wasn't the person to give that speech.
I don't know who the speech giver is in that locker room because, you know,
Kauai is not very focal.
I'll say it again.
Not be surprised if they move off Paul George immediately.
I will not be surprised.
Paul George in draft picks, they've got depth here.
You can get players.
I'm not going to be surprised if they, I'm just, don't have it sourced, kind of sourced.
don't be shocked if they lose patience quickly with Paul George.
Because as you and I know, people are what they are in the playoffs.
We try to talk ourselves that Hardin will now rise.
And we do it every playoff run too, because they'll have a game and we're like,
oh, there it is.
Nope.
And listen, Paul George is a great player.
But the clippers are not built for the regular seasons.
This is a team that is built to win a championship that is the expectations.
That's the expectations of the owner.
Steve Balmer, that's the expectations of the coach.
Dot Rivers.
Kauai Leonard.
Because everyone's down on Kauai Leonard right now.
Like he didn't just win a championship last year.
I got no issues with Kauai.
He didn't have a great performance, but.
Yeah, he had a bad last game performance,
but I got no issues with Kauai.
I'm still all in on the Kauai.
This team is a team that needs someone who can perform in the postseason.
And there's a lot of evidence that that might not be the case.
Joy Taylor with News.
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You know, I was talking about this earlier.
There are quarterbacks I've grown up with.
Tom Brady and Drew Breeze, and it is tough when a Joe Montana ages.
But I do believe I watched Drew Breeze last night, and I've said that's the last couple of years.
New Orleans doesn't throw the ball down the field.
And when you have these hyper-athletic quarterbacks, Russell Wilson and Aaron Rogers and Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes,
and they're just so incredibly gifted and they're giving you free touchdowns and stuff over the top is that being, you know,
Breeze looked more like Kirk Cousins last night.
And I hate to say it, but, you know, we know the age game.
We know how it works.
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Listen, it can be painful, and I don't want to overreact,
but I've been critical of Breeze the last couple years.
I love him.
I know he's accurate.
I know he's good at the line.
I know he's a great leader.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the game is changing, Peter, and I thought you could really see decline last night with Drew Breese.
Well, I would just say two things about this. Number one, I think that first, in the first, say, three drives, I thought that Breeze was fine and playing well and using Alvin Camara optimally.
Okay. But as the game went on, the loss of Michael Thomas really showed. And again, for those who want to pin all of this on the fact that Drew Breed,
is not throwing the ball downfield.
I understand that.
But he's got one of the best downfield threats
in the recent history of the NFL
who's probably going to miss three weeks.
And so I think you can't look at Breeze in a vacuum.
I think you have to look at him as part of a hole.
And that hole right now has a pinhole in it.
You know, that balloon hole has.
a pinhole in it. And, you know, if I am the Saints, you just have to hope this isn't a shootout
with Aaron Rogers this weekend, because if it is, the Saints will lose. You know, I said this before.
I didn't think Belichick Cam would be ideal, but it's really fascinating. And I would make an
argument that actually, Nikiel Harry is a first round pick that cannot be a bust. They need a weapon,
and Cam's probably a better fit with him than he is Brady.
And I got to be honest with you.
I don't think Brady could have gone to Seattle and gotten within one play of beating the Seahawks.
Are you at all surprised that it's not just that Cam, it's working.
It's working with no preseason, shared snaps.
It's way better than I thought at this point, Peter.
Well, it's better than anybody thought it would be.
In part, what you're saying, there was no preseason.
There's no off-season program.
which to me is a huge plus when you talk about how well they're playing on offense.
And if you follow the Patriots, if you're a Patriots fan, even though they lost that game the other
day, there was so much to be optimistic about and so much to be up about.
And all I can say is that as I look at the AFC East right now, you've got to love what you're
seeing in Josh Allen.
you know, his performance under pressure, you know, pro football focus had a great stat.
His quarterback rating under pressure Josh Allen is like 150 point something.
And you look at that and you just say, wow, that was one of the things that people wondered about with Josh Allen.
So you got to give him some credit.
But as far as the Patriots go, I totally agree.
Bill Belichick is proving just like the old.
Mum Phillips thing. He can beat you with his and he can beat you with urine.
You know, he can win with a wide variety of players and a wide variety of schemes.
Are you shocked? And maybe it's a reflection on last year where Went was asked to carry the
Eagles and now perhaps he's trying too hard to carry the Eagles and doing too much.
Are you at all surprised by how ineffective, inactive, inaction?
accurate. Carson Wences B. We know Doug Peterson can coach. It's the same system. Are you surprised by
what you're why? I am. Yeah, I'm very surprised. I thought he would play significantly better than what
he's playing, Colin. And I think one of the issues right now is the inconsistency of the protection
from an offensive line that is very much not only a work in progress, but
beat up too. I mean, Lane Johnson, you know, who might be the best at his position in football,
clearly is not 100%. They didn't plan on having Jason Peters have to play tackle this year at his age.
So that's another issue I see. But, you know, I also think that one of the issues that they have is that
this was a team that needed the offseason, that needed the chemistry between Carson Wentz and his receivers,
didn't have it. And it's one of those, it's one of the things that when you look at the way
Cam Newton played Sunday with all these new guys, you've got to applaud that. And Carson
Wentz just has not been able to make that same positive adjustment that Cam Newton has made
in New England with guys who he didn't even know before. You know, it's interesting. There's one or
two things that I was told years and years ago from a general manager, a really good GM. He said,
and I said, how do I figure out if a coach is working very early, five or six games in? He goes,
one of the two things I look for is a general manager. Do I get the same performance every week?
Win or lose? The team looks, I mean, Belichick's team, they look the same. You get the same performance
every week. Sometimes they lose. Sometimes they win. He goes, are you seeing consistency of performance?
He goes, the second thing is the really good coaches are good after half.
A lot of guys can put down 20 plays.
They got no second gear.
And last year, Matt Lafleur, as a rookie head coach, I thought was really good on the script and they were a bad second half team.
What's interesting, two weeks into this year, they're actually a better second half team.
And I think, okay, I'm now getting a lot of wins in 18 games.
And now I'm getting a team that's good off script.
So did we undervalue Matt Lafleur a little last year?
I probably did.
No question about it.
As a matter of fact, I called him my coach of the week in my column this week
because look, guy has now coached 20 games in the NFL.
He's 16 and 4.
That includes the playoffs.
That includes two horrible one-sided losses to the 49ers.
And I, like I'm sure a lot of people coming into this year,
looked at those losses and said,
the Packers are really good against just 50-50 teams, you know, teams that aren't very good.
They're not really good against the excellent teams.
And the two San Francisco games prove that, seemed to prove that, in which they gave up 37 points each time.
But I think what has happened this year is that you have Aaron Rogers coming into this year,
and I doubt he's ever going to say it, Colin.
But you have Aaron Rogers coming into this year saying basically, I will show Brian Goudicunds.
I'll show him.
And Brian Goudicund said, good, that's fine.
If I end up having to trade Jordan Love two or three years into this experiment, that's okay.
Well, Jimmy Garoppolo our situation and we'll be okay.
But to me, Aaron Rogers deserves a tremendous amount of credit for coming back without significant improvements.
in their receiving core and coming out and playing great early.
And I think they lead the NFL and points scored.
And so I look at this and I say this head coach knows what he's doing
and this quarterback knows what he's doing too.
So, you know, it's funny with Brady is I was talking to a former NFL coach this weekend
and he said, you know, Tom in New England always had, you know, Moss and Welker
or Gronk and Edelman.
He's like, he's got three legit tight ends now
and three legit wide receiver
and two good backs and a third back that can play.
He said Brady may be struggling with too many gifts.
New England was actually for a complex offense fairly simple.
You'd have like one big star receiver, a slot guy, and a tight end.
I think Brady's going to figure it out,
but he's still not throwing to the tight ends.
Is it possible?
It's not just a new coach and a new system.
Brady's got so many mouse to feed here
This is going to take a long time.
This is an eight, 10 week process to figure out.
There's no question about it.
But unlike a lot of other places where when you have a lot of mouths to feed,
the hungry ones get really ticked off,
I don't think these guys are going to get ticked off if they're not getting the ball.
Because it's Tom Brady.
And all he's going to do is, all he's going to do is say to O.J. Howard,
listen, if you're open, I'm throwing to you.
He'll say that to Mike Evans.
You saw him say that.
You saw him do that with Evans.
the other day when he was wide open in the deep middle.
You know, I think the one guy who even though he had an end zone drop the other day,
I think the one guy who's going to merge this year out of all of the receivers,
out of all the famous ones, is an unfamous one.
And that's Scotty Miller.
The two days that I saw the Bucks in training camp,
Scotty Miller was getting fed more than any wide receiver on that team.
and Brady just really likes him.
One of the reasons I think he likes him is he gets separation.
Brady is not used to having receivers who gets separation,
but this is a 434 Smurphy guy who's really tough.
And he kind of reminds me a little bit of Gary Clark with the All-Washington team
that he just was so smart a player and he got separation.
and that's what made him an excellent target for his quarterbacks.
And I agree with you, Colin.
I think this is definitely a work in progress because, hey, he never got in a huddle with any of
these guys until one month before the first game.
So, you know, you have to give him time and you have to avoid drawing really specific
judgments after two or three games.
Peter King, great stuff.
Monday morning quarterback.
Good to seeing you, my friend.
Love your stuff as always.
Read his column.
Peter King.
Thank you.
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It's a scary time in America tonight for many of you who just can't deal with change.
Your rigidity has made you feel left out in 2020.
Change is hard for you.
You don't like change.
What you saw in 1980 is the facts and nothing should ever change from 1988 or what-eves.
It's going to be tough tonight potentially.
If LeBron wins, the Lakers are up on Denver 3-0, they'll win the series and he'll make it to the NBA finals again.
Oh boy.
Michael Jordan the goat.
LeBron no chance to be number two,
even though LeBron still looks like he's near his peak.
If LeBron wins tonight, then he'll face Denver one more time
and then get a bunch of rest for two young teams, Miami and Boston,
who will both be underdogs to LeBron and the Lakers.
And the two best players in the finals will both be LeBron and Anthony Davis,
and they'll win.
If he wins tonight, it does eliminate one more and.
anti-Lebron argument.
And that is, oh, the West.
The West is just too much for LeBron.
I mean, did it over in the East.
They're playing picnic tables over there.
Nobody in the East.
Oh, wait, he beat Portland in five.
He blew through Houston in five.
And maybe he beats Denver in four or five.
He was the number one seat in the West.
He's rolling through the playoffs in the West.
He doesn't get the home court advantage as the number one seat in the bubble in the West.
He has a brand new coach and roster in the West.
West and he's blown the hell through it. Yeah, it wasn't a West thing. It was the he's damn good thing.
Everywhere, every league, every team, every roster. Michael Jordan could not win games with a second
team. LeBron is about to win a title with his third. LeBron James only had one coach that he could
take to the finals. LeBron is about if he wins tonight to get his fifth head coach to the finals,
but you keep clinging to 1980.
I, whatever was happening, that is the best.
One by one, we're eliminating the LeBron criticisms.
The West is so easy for LeBron to roll through.
He doesn't even get home court advantage.
Michael got to go home to the stadium.
And the Bulls' crowds were electric.
You got Oprah sitting over there and Siskel and Ebert over there
and crazy fans and the, you know, the public address announcer and the, come on, man, you're going to give
it a rest?
Guy moved west.
Bow, bound, bow, bow, bow, bow.
Westbrook Harden, boom, Kauai, Paul, bam, bow, bow, bow.
Knock all the chest pieces off the table.
There's the king.
King's left.
Not sure they're going to win the night, but you're running out of, you're running out of arguments.
They blew through Portland, they blew through Houston, and they're blowing through Denver.
And I got news for you.
Nothing against Miami or Boston.
They're not beating Anthony Davis and LeBron James.
And I'll tell you this.
You can say what you want about LeBron.
This is leadership.
Because every old team in this bubble, the old teams have a bunch of wives and they've got kids.
The old teams have stunk in the bubble, except LeBron's team.
The old teams, Janus, first week is like, I don't like it here.
Paul George, I'm struggling.
It's hard.
You got habits.
Once you get into this league eight, nine, ten years, you got habits.
You've got a family.
You've got kids.
You've got your life.
22-year-old kid.
It's an A.A.U tournament.
Young guys are great in the bubble.
Old guys have struggled, except LeBron.
By the way, Joy, Taylor has some breaking news.
This is rather remarkable, again, for people that can't handle change.
This could be very discomforting.
Well, week two of the Patriots, Seahawks, NBC Sunday Night Football.
NBC.
NBC.
Came in, yeah.
Yeah.
So according to NBC, sports PR, that easily ranked as,
the week's most watched primetime show and at top last season's week two Sunday night football game.
Well, how's that possible?
They had 18.2 million last year, this year, 18.4 million.
And last years did not face LeBron and the NBA playoffs and the primetime Emmys.
So the number one NBA brand and number one NBA player were playing at the same time, plus the Emmys and the ratings beat it.
How is that possible?
I thought everybody was.
I guess people are still watching football.
People are still watching football.
Folks, I know you don't understand the ratings.
You got to wait like 48 hours after the games.
You have digital numbers come in, O-O-H numbers come in.
People are moving and watching it differently these days.
And people are still watching football.
Amazing. They still like the games.
I don't know how it's happening.
I'm told they're not watching.
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