The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd-HOUR 1-Rodgers, Brady, Wentz, Dodgers

Episode Date: October 19, 2020

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Colin right, calling wrong, plenty of both. Starting get some clarity in the NFL. Joy Taylor is joining me. Joy, how are you? Great. That was a great weekend of football. And baseball. And baseball. Yes. Last night was fun. It was. Congrats to the Dodgers. Congrats. So we all know Aaron Rogers is talented, right? And if you look at the history of quarterbacks who are talented, you know, they have a better than average chance of

coming from behind and a better average chance of holding a lead for all the great quarterbacks, the Peyton Mannings, the Troy Aikman's, the Dan Marinos, the Elways. Aaron Rogers now, this is fascinating, has lost by 14 or more points now 19 times in his career. Russell Wilson's six. But this is even more damning. Aaron Rogers, for all his talent, and this has been a well-run organization, let's not make this into the lions or jaguars. Aaron Rogers has a losing record when he trails at any point in a football game. could be one minute in.

Mahalms, Lamar Jackson have won 65% of their games. And we think Lamar doesn't play well from behind. Jimmy G. 62% winning when he trails at any point. Brady, Russell Wilson, Big Ben. Tebow has a winning record. Aaron Rogers, my friends, is a frontrunner. When the going gets tough, he bails. Brady's a baller,

Aaron's a Baylor. Don't you think that's crazy? The second he threw that second interception, he changed. He was out. Short, safe passes, protecting my legacy, protecting my stats. He'd never admit it. But this is another example. This is happening too often now.

The last four times this team has lost, my bad make it five, they've been shelled. This team's too talented to get shelled. You can lose. Last year they got crushed by Philly, run over, crushed by the Chargers, crushed twice by San Francisco. Now crushed by Tampa. They're the classic fighter.

They get into the Octagon. And when somebody hits them back, they are out. Aaron is a different quarterback when he trails. He is not a foxhole guy. He's talented. He's a Hall of Famer. He's gifted. He's got a great arm.

But Tom Brady is defined. his most defining two games are the Atlanta Super Bowl when he trailed 28 to 3 in the third quarter. That was the defining Brady moment. He went to even another level. And then he trailed the Seahawks by 10 in the fourth quarter. Aaron Rogers can't win those games. I mean, he can, but he wouldn't. If you look at Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson,

they are now beginning to be defined by their ability to come back from double-digit losses. Double-digit deficits. Aaron Rogers has a losing record if he trails by even a point at any point in the game. That's brutal. He's ranked 30th since the 50s in that stat. 30th. Is he the 30th best quarterback during that time? He can't blame defenses and coaching.

He's had two coaches now. This is now teams become their quarterback. teams become their quarterback and their coach. This is now Green Bay's identity, that when you punch them back, they fold. They are out. Runaway Rogers. Great with a lead. Great when comfortable.

But that's not how you win Super Bowls. Patrick Mahomes trailed in the fourth quarter of last Super Bowl. Brady's been defined by coming back from big deficits in the second half. I mean, if you can only win Super Bowls when you lead five minutes in, that can happen. they've got one, but that's not the NFL. If you go look at just yesterday, just go look at what happened yesterday, the fight Carson Wentz had,

the fight we've seen from Russell Wilson. I'm going to tell you, I don't want to hear any excuses. The Packers now, I can't unsee that. And this has now become the identity of Aaron Rogers. He's a bailer. He's a frontrunner. This team is really talented. You cannot be getting blown out in your last four losses.

And I'm not saying you don't have bad games. I mean, yesterday, there are times you show up and did Buffalo last week, good team, it just goes sideways. But 10 nothing doing hip thrusts, second interception, and Green Bay stops, changes, alters. Derek Carr and Ryan Tannehill, I'll repeat, Derek Carr and Ryan Tannahill have more fourth quarter comebacks historically than Aaron Rogers.

That's brutal. That is brutal. Here's Aaron's excuse afterwards. You don't ever want to lose like this. I feel like we needed a little bit of a wake-up call at some point this season because things have been so good. And there's been so much talk maybe outside the building about the ease, which with which we're, you know, moving the ball on offense and scoring. And, you know, I think we need to kind of kick in the ass a little bit as a little bit of a wake up to, you know, stop feeling ourselves so much and get back to the things that got us

to this position. It's not a we thing. It's an Aaron thing. Don't point any fingers. This is who you are. We got over, we got 10 years now. This is what defines you. Brady's a baller.

You're a bailer. You are not there. That second interception, the temperature in that huddle changed. On that sideline changed. This is who Aaron is. Hall of Fame, first ballot, great. talent. And he knows it, by the way. That's why he gets so prickly with the media. He knows it. He knows it. He was all hip thrust early. Second pick, shut it down. Didn't have any fighting him.

Quit in the octagon. All right, let's shift to this. We can officially announce it's okay. Three different head coaches for the Cleveland Browns. Baker Mayfield is the problem. It is not their running backs. It is not their offensive line. It is not their coaching staff. Baker Mayfield is holding this team back. They've had three different head coaches. All of these coaches have been offensive head coaches. You generally don't get that as a quarterback. And I still think this team goes nine and seven and can make the playoffs. But we've had three different head coaches. Baker Mayfield's career, 59 touchdowns, 41 picks. That's what he is. In the last two years,

32 touchdowns, 27 picks. That's a franchise liability. Listen, Carson Wentz lost to Baltimore yesterday. But he looked like a man who was fighting for his life to the very end. He was never overwhelmed. I've seen Deshawn Watson lose games. I've seen offensive lines fold. Baker Mayfield looks tiny.

He looks like a little boy playing with bigger, older brothers. He looks completely overwhelmed. and the Steelers game plan told you exactly what they thought of Baker. Put heat on him, he'll fold like a deck chair. He cannot be your franchise quarterback. I don't think this GM and this coach are going to pick up the option, the fifth year option. They'll do a Trubisky. He's the problem now.

You don't get a fourth head coach. This coaching staff is excellent. This running game is excellent. These wide receivers are excellent. The pass rush for Cleveland is very good. They're not a great team on the back end due to injuries. But we've got to stop now. The two times they've faced excellent teams this year,

they've now outscored 76 to 13. Bakers the issue now. Now they're not going to announce it, just like Chicago protected Trebisky. You don't announce it, then a bad half. But I said when he came into this league, he was Case Keenham with a better arm. And I like Case Keenham, but he looks overwhelmed.

Like there are guys in this league that the office. offensive line protection is terrible. Carson Wentz. I've seen Deshawn Watson where things break down. But those are men fighting for their life surrounded by suboptimal options. Cleveland is loaded. Pro football focus has their offensive line. Four of five guys are highly graded.

And yesterday, Pittsburgh just told you, this kid can't handle heat. He can't handle it. And he can't. And he's the issue now. You don't get a fourth head coach. They're going to protect him, but inside that organization, just like Chicago knew the truth with Trubesky, inside that organization, they know it. Police video, goofy medical staff call out, Duke Johnson call out, too many turnovers, too many commercials, not enough focus, looks small, undersized, overwhelmed when the offensive line breaks down. this is not a team.

And I like Cleveland's talent. I think it's excellent offensively. I mean, I think it's elite offensively. This can't be what's happening when you face Baltimore and Pittsburgh. It can't look like that. It can't look like that. Here's Stefanski protecting Baker afterwards. I don't want to see him get hit one more time.

I didn't do a good enough job allowing him to be put in those positions. So it's something that I have to do way better. I can't let him get hit like that. heard the same thing in Chicago. People make decisions before they announce it publicly. That GM and that coach, they know the truth. By the way, I saw Joe Burrow yesterday. Joe Burrell's really good.

I don't care he's not winning. He's really good. Lamar Jackson appears to have hit a ceiling. He's still really talented. Ben's on fire. You can't build a franchise if you have the fourth most talented quarterback in a division. they're going after a new guy. They're just not telling anybody yet.

Coming up next, one of the most amazing things I have seen in football, it's the most amazing one-week turnaround. I didn't even know it was possible. And it happened in the Buccaneers game against the Packers. I'll have that coming up next. Colin right, calling wrong, top of next hour. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app.

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All of Tom Brady's are. And so once, twice, three times a year, you'll catch Tom Brady screaming and yelling and getting after people. That's called leadership. That's what the late Kobe Bryant did. That's what LeBron has done. It's getting after people. That's what leadership looks like.

That's not a negative. That's not a debit. That's a credit. Or you can have the Aaron Rogers puts his hands, passive aggressive, rolls his eyes. That's not leadership. Leadership is Troy Aikman. Leadership is getting after people and uncomfortably calling them out.

This is amazing. Tampa Bay had no penalties yesterday. They had 11 10 days ago. Last year they led the NFL in penalties with Bruce Ariens. So the coach is still there. Tampa is defined by loose. Brady is defined by details. Something had to give with this franchise.

And it did. What you watched yesterday from, Tom Brady was a three and a half hour leadership seminar. They didn't give up a sack. And Green Bay is good. They didn't have a penalty. They didn't have a turnover. Ten days after they were a dumpster fire.

And Tom reamed them on national TV. Six days later. Tom, yelling at us. This is what leadership looks like. Peyton Manning barked at people. Yeah, he barked at people. And not all leadership looks the same, but in sports you have a clock. You have issues.

They have to be solved in 17 seconds. This isn't like where I work at a corporation and the show's over and we can do calls and Zoom meetings. And oh, we're back on the field. They're punting. You've got to solve crap fast. And again, some people are blamers. Leaders are fixers. Brady is a fixer.

He had a friend, and this was always our issue when he got to Tampa. This was always our issue. It wasn't the new coach, the new system. That's not what we worried about. On this show, we said, I worked in Tampa. It is loose. It's cocktails at five. The franchise has a history of just losing games they should win.

The Chargers have this on the West Coast. Brady has a history of details, accountability, and he will bark at you. Not passive aggressive. Tom will confront any problem head on. That's what leadership is. Anytime I see anybody on Twitter, anybody going, what do you call that? That's leadership. Barking at Josh McDaniels, barking at offensive linemen.

You've got to confront stuff. There's a clock on the issues. And I thought yesterday was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. This loose franchise, they were a mess last week. They faced the best team they'd face all year and played essentially a perfect, flawless football. game Bruce Ariens after. I can't say that I've ever been in the ball game with no penalties. And, you know, so it was, you know, we addressed it every single day and the guys

addressed it in practice this week. And hopefully we can continue that trend. You know, as a team, I don't think we had any penalties, don't think we had any sacks and don't have any turnovers. We're going to be hard to beat. And so we kind of set a new standard for herself in that regard against a quality opponent. Listen, Brady has had games.

with no penalties. Ariens hasn't. So Ariens may not remember it. Tom has. That was very patriot-like. Nobody likes to get yelled at. But in pro sports, you know what you like even less than being yelled at? Losing. So you've got to fix this stuff. And I look at Tampa in 10 days.

And if you want to be cool, you'll never be a leader. A lot of guys, they want to be cool. Leadership's not always cool. It really isn't. You have to be the grumpy guy and you have to be the yeller and the screamer. A lot of guys in sports, they want their money and they want to be cool. And they want their shoe deals and they want their swag. That's not what leadership is.

Leadership is calling people out sometimes on national TV. That was a leadership seminar yesterday. I can't even believe Tampa 11 penalties to zero. What? That just doesn't happen in the NFL. Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

Maybe they're on to something down in Tampa with that cocktails of five thing. Seems to be serving their sports teams pretty well. Yeah, they've had a very good year. They've had a very good year. After a bad history, they've had a great 12 months. The raise. So Jimmy Garoppolo was benched last week for the second half against the dolphins, but he bounced back yesterday in the 49ers, 2416 victory over the Rams.

He was 23 of 33 for 268 yards. three touchdowns and no interceptions in the win. And after the game, Kyle Shanahan said he was impressed with how his team put last week's ugly loss behind them. When you get embarrassed like that, you can find out a lot about your team. I was very impressed with the character of our team and just how the players carried themselves and the way they came out to practice on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. And really the way they responded to all of us getting embarrassed. They tried to get better this week and not worry about anything else.

And usually when you do that, you can put together those type of practices, usually the results. are better, and I'm glad that they were because I thought they really earned it throughout the week and today. Didn't feel very competitive. I mean, that was one of those forced their will on the other team. Rams and I look great, but they also had a good game plan coming in after a loss like that. Build it up slowly, short passes, get his confidence rolling, get the, you know, offense into a bit of a rhythm. And it worked. He was, as I said, 23 of 33, 268 yards and three touchdowns.

Jared Goff, 19 of 38, 198 yards, two touchdowns, one interception. Aaron Donald also was held with two tackles and one quarterback hit, and the Rams only got three hits on Garoppolo and he wasn't sacked. So that's a big factor as well. We can give him some protection and some time. They make things happen. They're still a good team. Like, they've suffered a lot of injuries this year,

and it doesn't feel like the same team as last year. I do think, though, I really like their weapons on the outside. Yeah. And they just don't throw to them enough. Like at some point, it feels. like Garoppelow is so controlled. Like even McVey and Gough, like McVeigh after the game

criticized his players, he never does that. I watch these two teams and I'm like, these coaches, you got to let them play a little. Garapolo feels so controlled to me. But don't you kind of have to do that with Garoppolo at this point, especially coming off that injury

and last week's loss. The dolphins are beating people. So it's not like that's an embarrassing loss because of the way that they lost, right? But like the dolphins are a competitive team. So if Garoppolo gets healthier, am I going to see more vertical stuff? Because I think San Francisco's got nice weapons.

Last night it was like, I think I had a number of like 13 or 17 of his 23 completions were five yards or less. I mean, I guess when he's healthy, you have to allow him to air it out a little bit, but you also have to cater to the talent that you have and put them in positions to win. If you're winning games, I mean, look, Chicago's winning.

It's not the prettiest thing in the world, but they're winning. At the end of the day, you've got a win column and a loss column, and they're in a tough division. So I don't know. I don't know that you force it on him if that's not what's working for him right now. I just came out of that game last night. I looked at San Francisco's schedule, and I'm like, man, they have got to open it up a little. But, you know, they did completely control a good football team. They're at the Patriots next week and then at the Seahawks.

Oh, good luck facing New England next week. Well, yeah. So speaking of the Patriots, they look rusty, and they're 18 and 12 lost to the Broncos. they barely practiced over the last two weeks because of the team's positive test results, but Cam Noon is not using that as an excuse for poor performance. I'm here for one reason, and, you know, that hasn't, it hasn't got it, I didn't get the job done today. So you can just imagine how I feel. But yeah, I don't, you know, I don't want this to be a pity party.

Obviously, everybody knows what the situation was and, you know, it is what it is. And, you know, I just know for me, here moving forward, I just got to play better. football and that's what my job is to do. It felt like a COVID loss. It honestly felt like, okay, this team's not practicing. I mean, they were so out of sort, even defensively, they were so, they couldn't make key stops. And I'm not making excuses, but they almost have two COVID losses.

They have the, Cam gets COVID, can't play against Kansas City, and then can't practice basically for 10 days. that was the least patriot-looking Patriot game in 10 years. It was, and that's why I'm not really going crazy over it. We know what this team is, right? We had our reservations about it before Cam got there, and they've played well in the wins that they've had, and Cam has been impressive.

But yeah, they barely packed over the last two weeks, and he was out. So I'm not going to overreact to that loss. And even Cam's mechanics. It's like Cam's a guy that you've got to stay on him with his mechanics. His mechanics looked. They didn't look very good yesterday. They just, the whole, and then they had two offensive line injuries, and it's like, okay, this is over. They're just, they, that was a COVID loss.

Their next three games are against the Niners, at the Bills and at the Jets. Well, there's a W there. And they're now two and three. They haven't been under 500 since through the fifth game or later since 2002. That was when they finished nine and seven and missed the playoffs. He wasn't great yesterday, but again, I don't, I'm not going to go too crazy about it. They were out of rhythm and out of sorts, and there's a reason for that. Finally, Tua got his first NFL action yesterday.

Yes. Finally, Tua time. I literally saw him out in the field. I was laying on my couch, you know, like, whatever hour into the day that was. And, like, popped up, like, on the edge of my seat. I know it's garbage time. I'm like, I have to see what's happening right now. And clearly, the entire stadium was reacting the same way.

Look at Fitzpatrick. He's so cute. It was great. He came in with two and a half minutes left in the game. Obviously, garbage time. And then we just showed Ryan Fitzpatrick cheering him on. Both of his passes were completed for nine yards on the team's final drive. Dolphins shut out the atrocious New York Jets.

They barely qualify as an NFL team. They're not collegiate, but you see they made a trade. The minute the game was over, they sent their nose tackle, one of their better players to Tampa Bay. They're just like, all right, let's just get rid of players, let's get picks. They're the only winless team remaining in the NFL. Yeah, Jacksonville and the Jets are literally like not just rebuilds. They're like bad teams rebuilding. And Jacksonville, I think, has too much offense.

I don't know if the Jets win a football game. I really, do you know they've never won a football game? Since Sam Darnold was drafted, the Jets have not won a game he didn't play. Now, he's lost plenty of games. I think they're 0.8 or 0.19. They cannot get first downs without Darnold. He's not the issue. It was remarkably bad yesterday.

But it was very exciting to see two out there. Everyone was very excited. And after the game, he went back out onto the field after everyone was gone. It was kind of a nice little moment. And he sat at the 15-yard line. And everyone was kind of, reporters were posting pictures of him out on the field. And everyone was just kind of assuming that he was just having a little meditation moment. It turns out he was FaceTiming his parents because they weren't actually able to be there at the game with him.

So he went back out on the field to kind of walk them through the final drive and talk to them. And he posted this on Instagram. Come a long way. The journey continues. Hashtag bless. It was a nice little moment for the offense fans. Good for him. That's great.

And that, by the way, Ryan Fitzpatrick is playing well. Yeah, he's playing. He's playing well. He's great, honestly. Just him on the sidelines cheering for Tua like that. Like, he has such good energy about the whole thing. And like that's so important. He knows what the situation is.

Going out there and winning and playing and enjoying playing football at that point in his career, knowing that like he's grooming Tua. It's just the perfect situation for the moment. It really is. Joy with the News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hur. Listen, I've been critical of Aaron Rogers through the years, but I've also said he's great.

I've always said I prefer him to Favre. I've always said first ballot hall of famer. But I cannot get over this. He has a losing record in games he's ever trailed. That is unacceptable for his talent. Brady is defined by comebacks. Elway was defined by comebacks. Russell Wilson is defined by comebacks.

Patrick Mahomes is defined by his arm and increasingly by comebacks. you lead Aaron Rogers at any point, 3-0, losing record. He's too talented for that. And I said before, some guys are ballers, some guys are bailers. And Greg Jennings will join me, the former Packer, brought to you by Mercedes-Benz, the best or nothing. So it's one of those days I'm the bad guy beating up on Aaron. But I cannot get past that.

I just think this team, Greg, is too damn talented to get blown out in their last four losses dating back to last year. there's something there is I mean you know it is hard to beat bad teams in this league bad teams you get into most of these games late third quarter it is chess I mean you're just you're trying it's attrition that there's got to be something to this stat that Aaron I thought after his second pick he he just played differently I mean what did you see well I will say this from week to week anything can happen in this league. And yes, the numbers that you're putting up when they've trailed, when he's been

behind have not been good. But from what I've seen, the seat that I've been able to fill and sit and watch this team overall this season in two games up close and in person and talking with these guys, defensively, they have to be better. They have to be able to stop to run. And they were not able to do that yesterday. And then what we saw also is them not turn the ball over, them not give their opponent other opportunities or more opportunities. They did that yesterday for the first time all season long. Aaron Rogers did not play well, but he didn't have the supporting cast that he's had all year play well the way they have in previous games this year. And let's face it, the Bucks played a really good game. Defensively, when you sack and you

apply pressure on Aaron Rogers or any quarterback in this league, they get rattled. And the game plan changes and you have to quicken things up offensively. Timing is disrupted. And that's what we saw against the Green Bay Packers for the first time all year. Kudos to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But the last five losses have been to a very physical Tampa defense. twice to a very physical Niners defense. Last year, Bosa Ingram for the Chargers, very physical. And then the Eagles in Lambeau just ran the ball over him. Could I not argue this?

There are teams that are physical and there are teams that are more finesse. And there is a little bit of a trend. The Packers' front office addressed this in the draft. They went after blocking tight ends, an interior offensive lineman and a power running back. The Packers, they're starting to be a trend here in the last two years. They can be very finesse, but they don't. They're not a physical football team.

Is that fair? I will give you the finesse. They are a physical football team watching them play, but they have the tendency to fall into that finesse category. And when you look at the extremely physical football teams, you look at the Baltimore Ravens, you look at the Steelers, the San Francisco 49ers, the Pittsburgh Steelers, teams that really, allow their defense to go before their offense.

And that's where I feel like the Green Bay Packers have not gotten it right. They've consistently, because of the play of Aaron Rogers, have always relied on their offense to be out front, which understandable. But at some point, your defense has to step up and play well. They have played well to a degree this season. I believe, and they know this, they want to play better, specifically in the running game. But to your point, when they've played teams that are truly physical across the board,

they have been dominated and they have been outmanned. And it's a nastiness that I feel like is the differentiator. Yeah. They don't play with that nasty, grimy mentality or approach where the Philadelphia, or not, I'm sorry, not the Philadelphia Eagles, even the Eagles at times when we've seen them, at their best defensively. But the 49ers, that's the type of defense that really rattles the Green Bay Packers. And we saw that yesterday with the Bucks.

They played a physical, nasty, get after the quarterback. Don't let Aaron Rogers beat you type of a game. You know, I've said this before. Leadership's not easy. There are very few leaders because it's hard. You have to yell at people and confront people. And in sports, outside of baseball, you have a clock. So if you have a dilemma, you may have 30 seconds to solve it.

And there's crowds and there's volume. And you get loud and you confront and you don't have time to dilly dally around. Brady has a history of getting after guys and chewing guys out on a sideline, coaches, coordinators. That's not Aaron's style. Peyton Manning could be a cheuer. Aikman could be a chewer. And for the buccaneers to go from 11 penalties to none is so Brady. And I want to talk about that because nobody like that.

to get yelled at. But there are moments where if a leader comes in and starts chewing and you can sense the urgency, when I looked at Tampa yesterday, my takeaway was they were really physical, and man, that was patriot-esque. That was really tight. And what do you think practice was like this week for Brady, having chewed the guys out in national TV, and then he has nine days to prep for the Packers? Well, I think there was a focus on attention to every single detail, including your quarterback, who is the goat in Tom Brady, when you have a mental lapse the way that he did in their last outing, of course, you're not only going to rip your teammates, but you're going to take on some ownership yourself so that that never happens again. And when it happens to your

leader, your captain, the one who everyone is following, your alpha male in that locker room, you have to pay attention to it and you have to address it. And I feel like that's what happened And let's not get overboard with the Packers because when you win and when you lose, there are completely different approaches to your week. And the Buccaneers had a tough loss going up to Chicago and losing to a bear team who we all thought that they would beat and they didn't. The way that they lost, it created this atmosphere and this kind of backs against the wall and let's make some changes right now.

They have to address these changes. When you win, you don't have that same approach. You still want to find the things that you have not done well and make them better and sharpen them, but you have to have this high on guys. We are getting it done. Let's continue to stay in this lane. And there's just different types of approaches when you win versus when you lose. It's one thing to lose.

It's another to be overwhelmed. I mean, Carson Wentz yesterday had no weapons and valiantly fought. I mean, using backups to backups. Yesterday, Baker, again, it happened against Baltimore. It happened against Pittsburgh. This is his third head coach. He looks overwhelmed when he's back. He looks small.

He's not, he doesn't have the arm. Like, I honestly believe they are looking, this new coaching staff watches the Baltimore game and the Pittsburgh game. And he's like, listen, this is not, we're too damn town. to lose like this. I mean, I don't know how you could watch that as a third coaching staff, as an owner, as a general manager, and think, this guy can overcome. I think there are people bailing on Baker in Cleveland. The one thing that I've noticed about Baker against teams that have a game plan and can execute it and can disguise long enough, he struggles. And what I mean by that is they can hold

what they're going to go to as far as their coverages to the last moment and confuse a young quarterback like Baker Mayfield someone who goes to the line in the huddle. When you're a young quarterback the play caller gives you the call and they kind of guide you through the

progression. You know it, but they kind of guide you if you don't have this, check it down. Well, when you play against teams like Baltimore, who was in their division, who they will see twice and we saw them do this to them. You play against teams and defenses like the Pittsburgh Steelers who have a ton of talent and can disguise and hold on and can pressure you. You can confuse the quarterback, especially

someone like Baker Mayfield, who they have shown they can do this to time in and time again. He has success when the running game is very apparent. It was not yesterday. And it was solely on him. He had to bring his team from behind. He did not show up. They got after. He did not show up. They got after him. They disguised. They confused him at times. This is what the trend is for Baker Mayfield. And he's going to have to answer this riddle or teams are going to start doing this weekend and week out.

Greg Jennings, 10 years, NFL, Super Bowl, multiple time pro-boulder, Fox Sports NFL analysts. Good seeing you, bud. Appreciate you stopping by. Absolutely. The quarterback yesterday that lost, but I thought won. I thought he walked out of that football stadium. And you can't doubt him anymore. And he lost.

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But there are moments when a quarterback can win and he stinks, and there are moments when a quarterback loses and he's unbelievable. If you don't get Carson Wentz at this point, I'm out, I'm done with you. This kid's incredible. I went and looked this morning. The Eagles have had, we're just starting the season. We're not even close to Thanksgiving. 17 offensive players have missed games,

including four of the five offensive linemen. didn't have Lane Johnson yesterday. His record won't show it. His stats won't show it. He was unbelievable yesterday. He's the anti-Aaron Rogers. He's all guts. He's all fight.

So he was missing his three best receivers yesterday and his best offensive linemen. They got down big to Baltimore. Baltimore was heavily favored. Baltimore was rolling them. He then loses his best tight end, Zach Hertz, and his best running back Miles Sanders. And they come back and they fight.

And if not for a lousy two-point call by Doug Peters. they maybe tie the football game. Eagle receiver, it could have been, they should have won by a touchdown. Eagle receivers were dropping touchdowns. They were dropping open stuff in the flat. He had nothing to work with. Nothing. We think Tom Brady this year has had a few injuries.

They have, I'm literally looking at their depth chart this year. It's insane. 17. I don't even know what goes on in Philadelphia. The water, what is it? This is the third year in a row. No, they've got nothing to work with. And Wence was just battling in that second half.

And he's doing it with Travis Fulgum, who was a late round draft pick by the Bears. They cut him. Old Dominion football didn't know they had a program. Philadelphia picks him up. He's his go-to guy. And he's competitive against Baltimore, a top five team in the league, and a good coach. Even John Harbaugh after the game, just tip of the cap to Carson Wentz. It was a tough, hard football fight.

And they came roaring back. That's a really good football team. I have to give Carson Wentz a lot of credit. He played just, he got hit and he kept coming back, making plays with his legs, hanging in there and making throws. I give Carson a lot of credit. I thought he led them. Working with nothing, man.

We say this all the time is if you were a, if I was a trust fund kid and had a pretty good life and you had to overcome a bunch of nonsense in your life, chaos, bad parents. and we ended up at the same place. You would be much more impressive than me. You would be much. What do you overcome? No quarterback in this league is leading their team to the playoffs last year with what Carson Wents has.

This kid is all guts and all fight. He may not have the talent of a lot of quarterbacks that you like, but guts, I'll take that guy my foxhole any day. Philadelphia should have gotten, they were getting crushed. The game was over. And then he lost his tied end. Then he lost his best running back. Didn't matter.

Just nothing but guts. All right, I got to say this. Baseball can wear me out. But one of the things I've liked about this postseason in baseball, I saw it with the Rays, I saw it with the Braves, and I really saw it with the Dodgers. Attitude. I like it.

There's no fans or very few. So players have to create the juice and the energy. And the Dodgers, they stare at their home runs, and they're full of emotion. And Cody Bellinger did it last night. Eighth pitch has been the magic one tonight. This time he hits the ball to deep right field. This is what sports should be.

Don't get me wrong. I want my franchise quarterback to have his hat on the right way, but sports is fun. We're all consumers. There's very few fans. I saw it from the Braves. I saw it from the Dodgers. I've seen it from the Rays. Baseball has officially lightened up.

Kike Hernandez had one of these as well. Like, have fun. stare at your home run, flip the bat. Mookie Betts. By the way, Boston, Mookie Betts is so talented. He is, he looks like a different level that even great players for the Dodgers. This is what sport should be. Even the NFL, which is so corporate two years ago is like, I think it was three years ago,

we've got to lighten up a little bit on the celebrations. And you know what? They're funny. Players are funny. they're choreograph, but you only do it after you score. Like, this is what sport should be. A little bat flip. I grew up.

I love Reggie Jackson. He watched every home run. And then something happened in baseball. I have no idea when it happened. Everybody got old and grumpy. I don't know what happened to baseball. Guys used to be Charlie Hustle. They'd run over catchers.

They'd flip bats. They'd stare. It was crazy people and characters and wackos and Mark Fidrich. And then baseball gets. grumpy. This is what baseball was when I was a kid. Attitude, fun, personality, lighten up. Dodgers or the Braves would have been great in the series. Nothing but big personalities. Colin Wright. Colin Wrong. Hour to next. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert

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