The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Seahawks win the Super Bowl, Sam Darnold's epic comeback

Episode Date: February 9, 2026

Colin Cowherd reacts to Sam Darnold and the Seahawks winning the Super Bowl in dominant fashion over the Patriots. He celebrates Darnold's comeback story from "draft bust" to Super Bowl champion.  Colin discusses the Patriots losing to the Seahawks and why they are probably 1 draft away from being a complete team  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's the greatest football game I've ever seen to the very last snap. I don't know about the rest of you, but I had a dream. last night. Sam Donald making a speech in Canton, Ohio. It was so lifelike, so much more lifelike than it was 24 hours earlier.

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occasionally. The scary part about Seattle is sixth most cap space in the league next year. Their coach is 38 moving into his coaching prime. Sam Darnold, two more years of a team-friendly deal. And they may have seven or eight players who are ascending. Young guys only getting better. And go ahead and say it wasn't about Sam Darnold. Go ahead and say that.

But it was in the postseason against the superior NFC and eventually Vrable's defense, no turnovers for Sam, smart enough, mature enough, and coachable enough to know what was needed. And against New England, he knew what was needed, a couple of big throws, make the right decision. Since 1990, four quarterbacks have won a Super Bowl with no turnovers. Maybe you've heard of them. Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Drew Brees, and Sam Darnold. They all had great coaches. and they all had stacked rosters.

They knew what the assignment was. That's all this playoff run was about for Sam Darnold. Against the Rams, he needed to be a game changer. Donald had to make big throws because Matt Stafford three different times, eight the Seahawks secondary. Eight. And Donald needed big throws. He was a game changer when the game called for it.

But with Kenneth Walker, running finding space regularly, Sam only had to make a couple of big ones. Here's one of them on the screen. He had to be a manager. He had to be understanding of what was needed. I'll give you an example. Tom Brady's first Super Bowl win

and Tom Brady's last Super Bowl win. I'm not sure if you know this. He threw for a few yards than Darnold did last night. That's what makes Tom great. All quarterbacks. I'd like to repeat this slowly. All quarterbacks are game managers. But it's part of the maturity that Sam lacked when he was 20 and 21 and 22 in New York.

He developed it. He's a good listener. Gratitude and humility. Great parenting probably adds a lot. 22-year-old Sam screws that game up last night because the New England Patriots were jumping routes. Mike Vrable knew looking at the film. He had the second best roster. And Mike Vrable knew the way to beat Seattle was make it fast and frenetic and make the old Sam

Darnold appear. He didn't. In fact, he didn't in the entire playoff run. I'll like to repeat against the superior NFC in New England, Seattle, the Seahawks are the first team ever to win a Super Bowl with no turnovers. against the Rams defense, the Patriots defense. You see the Patriots defense against C.J. Stroud, what they did to him. You see what they did to New England's O-line?

Or excuse me, the Chargers O' line and Justin Herbert? That New England defense is rough, really well coached. And yes, the Seahawks roster, like the Eagles, who won the Super Bowl last year, is stacked. That's usually the way it works. Go ahead. Say it's not Sam. but no turnovers? Playing the Rams, playing Robert Salas, playing Mike Vrabbles.

I mean, Drake May is really talented. Look at his postseason. What do you have seven fumbles? Donald didn't have a turnover. IQ, maturity, listening, 186 offensive snaps against the Rams, he had to be a game changer. Against the Patriots, and everybody in Seattle's locker room knew it.

The assignment was different. Stay ahead of the change as much as you possibly can, and don't make the big mistake. Here's Mike McDonald, a great young coach, the defensive version of Sean McVeigh, on defending Darnold. It's become a regular habit in the Pacific Northwest. Sam doesn't care about the obstacle.

Like everyone's made a narrative of this guy of, like everyone is, they have tried to put a story and a label on who he is as a person, who he is a quarterback. He does not care. All he's done since he's walked in the door has just been a tremendous player on our football team and a tremendous leader who is the same guy every day. And that's who he is. And that's how we need to talk about him moving forward.

Let's talk Drake May in New England. I preached last week. Stafford should be the MVP over Drake May. And I said the reason is every time Stafford walks to the line, every time Matt Stafford walks to the line, he understands the why. Drake May is still trying to figure out, as I said last week, the what? What am I seeing? What is this?

He didn't have the answers against Seattle. Stafford against Seattle tore him apart. three times. Drake May overwhelmed. Chris Collinsworth appropriately said at half time, May is not ready for this moment. Mike Vrable at half time seemed resigned

to the fact his young quarterback was over his skis. He was nervous and he was rattled. And that's why I said, stop vomiting statistics and spewing analytics. Quarterback is about the why. Can you walk to the

line like a Brady and a Manning and a Mahalms and a Stafford, and you have the answers to the test. I mean, I'm watching Stafford against this Seahawks defense, and he looks like Lewis Hamilton. Drake May yesterday looked like a student driver. He was completely overwhelmed. And New England's good. They're going to get better.

It was almost understandable. But Stafford and May are just different quarterbacks and different human beings. Let's be honest. If Bow Nix was healthy, New England's probably not here. So, yes, Seattle had more talent. We did our top 10 rankings of the players last week. The top four players were all Seattle, including Darnold. But this was more than just, well, I mean, Stafford's got Pooka Nakuwa.

New England's tight ends and receivers are way above average. And yes, Will Campbell is not ready for this moment. He's probably going to get moved inside. He was the best tackle in a weak draft class. He's probably a really good guard. And the future is great for May. The coaching around him's outstanding. But at one point in the third quarter,

Drake May, eight drives, eight punts, seven completions. That's not about Puka Nakua. That's about not being able to see the why and struggling with the what. This postseason, and he faced good defenses,

Drake May completed 58% of his throws, was sacked 21 times. pass a rating of 82. Matt Stafford tore the Seahawks up three times. Seattle's a very good defense. It is a defense you can have success against.

But not yesterday, not this kid, not in this moment. Here's Drake May after. It's hurt. No, no doubt. You know, it definitely hurts. It's been a long ride. They play better than us tonight. They deserve it with that game.

and, you know, speaking for the whole team and, you know, myself, just, you know, where a journey has been for us. I love this team, love those guys in the locker room, and we'll leave it all in the field. And I know a lot of guys do that tonight and just came up short, didn't play our best. And that's what happens. Listen, Drake May reportedly had a shot before the game, so he was not 100%. And again, Will Campbell left tackle. He got overwhelmed.

And we all knew, you knew it. I mean, there's a reason, overwhelmingly, the bets were all on Seattle side, tip of the cap to JMAQ, who had said during the week multiple times, he didn't know if New England could score. And if you look at the box score, crinkle it up and throw it away. It's garbage times numbers for New England. They were not competitive. At one point, it's what, 19-0 to 19-7. Drake made some garbage-time stats. But a lot of these sacks and a lot of these fumbles,

That's what happens when you're young. You don't know where they're coming from. You're not prepared for them. So it was beyond that. He was rattled. He was nervous. He wasn't 100%. New England's going to be fine.

I mean, Josh Allen's in their division. Jets are still a circus. My guess is they're going to be a wild card or a division winning team for the next 10 years. They're going to be back here. Didn't we say all week long? We kept saying, didn't it feel weird that New England still feels like they're a draft away? well, in the AFC, Mahomes didn't make it, Borough didn't make it. We didn't really know, right?

Like, you're like, they feel like they're a draft away. When you saw them against Seattle, it was official. They're a draft away. So, J. Mack, congratulations. You had Seattle in a route. And I had Kenneth Walker MVP on Friday. Remember Kenneth Walker? Oh, you did.

Good game. Yeah, headlines was very good. I don't know. You seem bullish on the Patriots being fine. this postseason Drake May had was so bad. I just wonder if they got bigger issues. I mean, remember, Burroughs is going to come back. Mahomes is going to come back.

Lamar's going to be really good. Lamar's going to come back. The Jaguar's probably not going anywhere. AFC's loaded. I saw some troubling signs from Drake May throughout all this postseason. How many fumbles did he have seven? Interceptions galore? 58% completions?

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Houston's good. New England's good. Denver's good. There's Seattle, the Rams and San Francisco. Kyle Shanahan, and I appreciated him, he basically said, NBC did a really nice job. Terrico, Collinsworth. You know, the game for a lot of people.

I thought it was the best game in the history of football. A lot of people thought it was boring. I thought they did a great job. And Shanahan and the pregame show kind of told you, Seattle only needs part of their team to win. There's not much secrets to being in a talented, very sound team. I mean, I think there's two Super Bowl defenses this year, and it was Seattle and it's Houston.

And when I say that, it means they're capable of winning totally on their own if the other side of the ball, special teams and offense don't mess it up. And when you attack these guys, all right, if you want to, want to do it and unlock them, you better be able to run the ball. If you can't run the ball, they're going to keep their two safeties very deep. They're going to give up no explosives. I've looked for two years. And he knows there's one team in the NFL, and they did it twice this year.

There's really shut Kyle Shanahan's offense down in all the years. He's been in San Francisco, Seattle. And they did it twice against the 49ers. And Kyle Shanahan knew that defense. And boy, did he call it. say this. Seattle and the Rams were a combined 11 and O against the AFC. Yeah, with an average double digit margin. I mean, so I, you know, I don't know what to tell you. They're playing a different game. The story of the AFC playoffs was about who didn't get in. Burrow, Lamar

Jackson, Mahomes. The story of the NFC playoffs, man, these rosters are loaded. Man, the coaching is unbelievable. So the AFC has more star quarterbacks, but the NFC's got the better rosters. Chicago, Green Bay, Detroit, Philadelphia, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles. I mean, Seattle doesn't have a hole. Even

their special teams are stacked. So, and then that's why I say with Sam Donald. You know, Tom Brady's first and last Super Bowls, he had fewer yards passing than Darnold did yesterday, and Shanahan talked about that.

Yeah, Sam's a stud. And you know, us having them for a year. I think we get a little too much credit for what we did. We didn't do anything for him. We just gave him a platform to where we can take the pressure off him for a year. And I think him watching that, Sam's always let it ripped. But when you let it rip all the time and you're always trying to win the game, a lot of times you keep both teams in the game.

And I think that's really what's changed with him. He picks and chooses better. He's got a really good team. And when you have a really good team, you don't always have to try to win it. When you have a really good team, Aikman, Breaston, Steve Young, Sam Darnold, winning a Super Bowl with no turnovers. When you got a great coach and you got a great team,

the assignment changes, okay? Before the game, they were talking. Drake May needs to play great to win. Darnold needed to not make the big mistake to win. I just thought Shanahan was so good on the pregame. He told you at one point, he said, listen, if Seattle doesn't turn it over, this could be a route. You don't get analysts saying that before games very often to just put it out there.

This could get ugly. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, you talk dominant, Colin. Kenneth Walker was dominant last night. An unbelievable offer, 135 yards on the ground.

How would you like to be a cornerback trying to tackle them? Dude, he's so thick and strong. That guy is tough. Look at him, just bolt down the sideline monster game. First running back in the Super Bowl since Terrell Davis, to be named game MVP. Interestingly, Kenneth Walker said to be a free agent after the season. I saw a stat, Colin, last 650-ish carries for him, zero fumbles. Well, he's not a blocker.

No. And he's a very mediocre pass receiver. So he is, not that he's a one-trick pony, because his running style is a variation of many things, but because Seattle is drafted so well and they don't pay any of their utter running backs, I imagine they'll keep it. I don't know if it's a great running-back draft, but Seattle's an offense that eventually will have a series of running backs because he's not great. On a third and long, he's not the back you want on the field usually.

Agreed, but coming off a Super Bowl MVP, does he say, you know, want to test the market, running backs, we don't have a long shelf life, I'm 25-ish, I want to get as big a contract and, you know, some Arizona Cardinals, whoever offers him big money and he jumps at that. Could that happen? Absolutely. I remember years ago, Larry Brown played, I think, for the Cowboys, he had a big Super Bowl. And he was kind of, if I recall, he wasn't a great lockdown guy. He was kind of a tweener, but he had a big Super Bowl. And I think the Raiders or somebody came in and paid him a fortune, you see this all the time where NBA teams overdraft somebody because they had a good

March Madness Tournament. So I think Walker's a really good player. He's been dinged up somewhat in his career. He got healthy here. And again, not a guy I want blocking for Darnold. And I think Seattle does need to address the offensive line, even more on the interior part of it. But if he tests the waters and leaves, running backs are... Well, you need two now.

And they had Charbonnet and Walker all season, which was a good combo. They have Halani. Halani, yeah. It's an interesting one. But three. I would, if I'm out there and I'm a, you know, a contender, I'm at least throwing some kind of offer sheet Walker's way just to see what he says. Well, if I had a young quarterback and I, because I mean, this is a real thing. If you have a young quarterback, you can spend that extra money on a third corner or a running back that gives your quarterback some time to breathe.

So look around. Yeah, I could see like Sean Payton going. Okay, I got Harvey and Walker as a one-two punch. Harvey's a better receiver. Walker's the better power runner with Bo Nix. I could see Denver going after him. And then you could get Walker over in the AFC. We'll see what the draft is like for running backs.

Maybe Seattle says, hey, we're not paying him $12 million a year, whatever the numbers. Seattle also has three guys in the secondary who are a free agent. So we'll see. It should be an interesting offseason, but congrats to Kenneth Walker, who had the game of his career on 27 carries. All right, let's move on to George Pickens. We talked about this Friday. He's going to be a free agent.

And the Cowboys, it sounds like a franchise. tag is coming. According to multiple reporters, it sounds like they're going to be franchise tagging him. Jerry Jones spoke about keeping pickings at Dallas during NFL honors last week. I'm talking to George all the time

by virtue of my excitement for him. And he's better than as far as what he contributed to our team, showing the potential that he could contribute. So I'm looking forward

to getting things worked out. Ask yourself this. When you watch New England, because we can beat up on New England all day, but New England's defense is good. They don't have the depth up front of Seattle, but they got good front line players. Christian Gonzalez is unbelievable.

When you watch New England's defense and Seattle's defense, how many cowboys outside of Quinn and Williams could play? Forget start. Could play for those two defenses. I'm not talking starting. overshone maybe? I think overshone would absolutely play. I think about...

What about your guy, Kenny Clark, who they traded for? Again, he would be wrote. He's not as good as Leonard Williams. So, I mean, just watch those two defense. We can bury them all we want. In the first half, I mean, New England's defense was on the field because it was punt, punt, punt, three and out, three and out, three and out, you just wore down that New England.

If New England would have had one 12 play drive in the first half and their defense got a break, their defense would have remained, I think, if you notice in the second half, New England's defense, did you notice this? The tackling wasn't very good. They were just a beat slower. Why? Because they were on the field. Yeah. I need to ask you about Pickens. Like, let's say the Cowboys are like, we're going to let you go. What's the market like for this guy? Just remember how he ended a lot of pouting and how it ended in Pittsburgh. Are you wanting to get in bed with a guy like Pickens, Apiqon? I think Pickens is a very productive player. I think, I think Dallas gave away like a third round pick and maybe a fifth so they don't want to give

them away for nothing. So they've convinced themselves. They convinced themselves when they made the deal, he was going to be a cowboy for a while. Okay. And I do think if you're going to pay players pay on the offensive side, keep your defense young and hungry. Wait a minute. We just see two Super Bowl teams now. Eagles defense, Seahawks defense, dominate. So I almost wonder, Are we seeing a new changing of the guard here in the NFL? Now, hey, don't come to the playoffs unless you got a defense. Well, yeah, I mean, highest paid wide receivers, we're putting a list up for our TV audience. Find me the playoff wins.

There you go. We just watched two great defensive lines. We just watched two great secondaries play. I didn't see a lot of, I mean, JSN was shut down. Four catches on like 10 targets. And they still dominated. Yeah. And that in JSN and Stefan Diggs.

didn't do anything. So how valuable in the playoffs is the star receiver? It's about line play. Yeah. And that Pickens tag, they're estimating it to be $28.8 million, which would slot him about 11th with T. Higgins. And I don't think Pickens is going to be happy with that, given that he performed like at a top five level for much of the season. All right, final story. Let's go to the Eagles, because A.J. Brown went on the Micah Parsons podcast and was talking about the change from Eagles also see Kevin Petulow to the new guy, Sean Manning. Here's A.J. Brown on Change in Philly. I'm always excited.

You know, sometimes change is not a bad thing. I have the utmost respect for KP. To me, he did a tremendous job, and he has a great heart. But I'm excited for the season. I'm excited for what's to come. He has a great heart. Boy. offensive coordinator.

He's got a great heart. What is that telling you, Kyle? That's not a resounding vote of confidence on the guy that they got fired. Listen, some jobs look like they're great jobs. They always joke that being an NBA head coach is the worst great job in sports. You have no real power. You know, if the player turns on you, you're done. But you do make a bunch of money and you are in sports.

I think Philadelphia coordinator can be difficult because there's a ton of pressure and you get until Thanksgiving to prove your worth. Yeah. This will be an interesting one, this AJ Brown saga. We just saw Super Bowl week, right? So the receiver on Seattle, Bobo, broke his hand in the NFC championship game. We heard nothing about that until the day of the Super Bowl. And then we had Drake May getting shot up.

I'm just saying reporters are good, obviously. Colin, there's a lot of stuff we don't know. And I would suspect that AJ Brown's name is going to be on the training block all summer. And I think he's probably going to get shipped. I don't see him lasting in Philadelphia. I thought they should have got rid of him two years ago. I don't know what the market's like. Hey, good player.

But listen, do you want that in your locker room? He's going after the quarterback half the season. Not great. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurdline News. Just a reminder.

And I don't want to be too obnoxious today. But in the 2018 draft, when Donald and Baker came out, I said, I preferred Darnold. over Baker. He was bigger. He's got, he's more athletic, and I liked his maturity. Sam's Darnold, Sam Darnold's personality, in my opinion, is about belief in himself. Baker Mayfield's personality, and he wears it on his sleeve, is driven by perceived slights. And that is powerful.

playing angry, playing piss, chipping the shoulder, that's Baker, perceived slights. Darnold, his personality is belief in himself. It's grounded in that. Baker's the opposite. Baker is still taking shots at Stefansky a couple of weeks ago. Sam Darnold's beyond that. Baker needs to prove people wrong, whereas Darnold only needs to prove himself right. And that's the difference.

After winning the Super Bowl last night, Darnold could have taken shots at the Jets for almost screwing up his career, or Carolina for being chaotic, or the Vikings letting him go, or the Niners not letting him go into a camp and compete with Brock Purdy. He could have taken a shot at Cleveland for choosing Baker over him, and Sam Darnold instead goes on stage and says this. I told my dad I was, you know, and my mom, but, you know, just I was, I was, I'm here because of their belief in me.

Some people called me, called me crazy throughout my career for believing in myself so much and having so much confidence. But, you know, it was because of my parents because of the way that they believed in me throughout my entire career. And it allowed me to go out there and play free and have a ton of confidence. Humble in victory, gracious indefiards. feet, this was precisely why I like Darnold over Baker. Baker is trying to prove people wrong, perceived slights. And that does work, and it is powerful. But in the end, it's about proving yourself right and believing in yourself.

There is a joy and a humility to the way Sam Darnold plays. I still like Baker. I think it's highly entertaining all the chips on the shoulders. Baker has balance in his life. He has a chip on bow shoulders. And that is the kind of jet fuel that has driven many great athletes. There is nothing wrong with it. Darnold just different.

And that's why I liked him. It wasn't just that he was bigger, just that he was a better athlete. In college, Darnold was not. well coached, often had to play hero ball and carry the team, and even in losses, and he had a few, humble and victory, gracious in defeat. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?

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It all begins Saturday, 8 Eastern on Fox. Okay, so Clint Kubiak, and everybody in the world knew it, he's going to be named the head coach of the Raiders. probably in an hour. He was Seattle's offensive coordinator. Do I worry, I mean, C.J. Stroud, Jalen Hertz, have been quarterbacks that feel a little dependent on who's their offensive coordinator.

Do I worry about that with Sam Darnold losing his? No, for three reasons. Smart people in life, on average, make better choices than less smart people. Number one, Mike McDonald, the head coach, 38 years old. He's the McVeigh of defense. Last year, they won 10 games and he fired his OC. So that tells me the head coach has

incredibly high standards. Standards are what killed Pete Carroll's career. In Seattle and Las Vegas, he had people on the staff that weren't good enough to be on the staff. Mike McDonald fired an offensive coordinator when they were winning 10 games.

So he's got really high good. Good is not good enough. Number two, John Snyder's the GM. Snyder doesn't miss on anything. He hires the right coaches, drafting, trades, free agency. So the two smart guys at the top, really high standards and a hit rate that's very high. Number three is Sam Darnold is only 28 years old. And because of his futility in New York and his struggles, he's very grateful. I think he'll always take reasonably team-friendly deals.

When you've been crapped on in life, when you had a tough start in your life, you are so grateful to be surrounded by excellent people. Sam's not about the money. Sam is about staying on the field and surrounded by really good people. And that matters. A lot of these, you know, Donald now, you could say, well, he's got the, he's got the legacy. He's got, had such a bad first four years. I think he is so grateful to be surrounded by maybe the best defensive coach and football top five coach and the best GM arguably. So I don't think he's going to go and bang on the rinks truck. And so for those three reasons,

GM and a coach that don't settle in a quarterback that is not just going to look for money, I think that guarantees. I think Seattle is going to be excellent. They have cap space. And if you, and it's really amazing that people kept saying, well, Gino Smith is good.

Gino Smith never graduated to the next level of football. J. Mack and I were talking about this during the break. And the next level of football is often. Not losing games. Jimmy Johnson always talks about this. You lose way more games than you win. Troy Aikman knew, I got a really good football team. I'm going to hit Michael Irvin twice on big plays.

Alvin Harper wants. That's what I need to do. So Donald's not a guy. He's not a money guy. I've met his family, Oceanside kid. That's not what drives him. He doesn't need validation of another, you know, material item. That's not who he is.

Here's Darnold on his role going forward with the Seattle offense. I've taken it day by day, you know, throughout my entire career, and it's gotten me to this point. My job is to take care of the football. And I knew that coming into the game, and, you know, I did that. And, you know, I took the open guy when they were there. And, you know, if I had to take sacks, if I had to throw the ball away, I was able to do it. But I just played that kind of game, and I feel like, you know,

We ended up being on top because of it. By the way, he's from San Clemente, not Oceanside, my bad. It's kind of south on the coast in California. You know, the other thing is one of the things Mike Vrable sells at New England, this team isn't about one guy. It's a unit. He's the guy at the end of games in the tunnel thanking everybody. And it's easy to beat up on Drake May,

who I just don't think wasn't healthy, wasn't there. I didn't like, and I think Josh McDaniels is good, I didn't understand not attacking Hunter Henry. If you look at the Rams success against Seattle, the Rams have excellent tight ends, and they use them against the Seahawks very effectively. I thought the game plan was going to center around three-step drops, a lot of tight ends, some bubble screens, short passing game. do not get Drake May, five-step drops, Will Campbell left tackle, who was overwhelmed the entire AFC playoffs. I did not love the game plan. Listen, in the first quarter, neither quarterback could do much. I mean, it wasn't until the second quarter where you felt like Seattle was starting to put a few things together. So I did not love New England's offensive game plan. And again, when you can't

block on the left tackle spot, it blows up a lot of stuff. But here is Mike Vrable on the L. We can sit here and try to put it on one guy. You'll be disappointed because that'll never happen. You know, it starts with us as coaching staff and making sure that, you know, that we're doing our part. And then obviously we have to be able to execute. We've got to be able to protect. When we do protect, you know, we have to be able to progress through and throw the ball of the guys open and, you know, and help the quarterback, and then he's got to be better. Like, that's just how it goes. So, you know, that's never going to change.

Should be noted, John Elway got crushed in Super Bowls, and then he got better help, and then John Elway was winning Super Bowls. We went through a stretch, and I don't remember the exact years where Super Bowls were awful. Like, they were worse than yesterday. Like Super Bowls were blowouts for years.

And then we've gotten into a space until yesterday where we've had some really good ones. Now, last couple years have been ugly. But it goes back and forth on this. Last year, Kansas City was beat up in this year. We kept saying about New England, and I thought it would be low-scoring and close. I didn't think either team was going to get into the high 20s. I thought it had a chance to be 17, 16, 24-20 was my call Seattle.

But I think all of us sort of acknowledged it. Even New England fans, if they're honest, this team still felt like a draft away. I said it all year. They were my double the win total team in the NFL. Before the season, I picked one team that doubles their win total. It was New England. I thought they'd be in the 9, 10 win spot. I'd think they were getting to the Super Bowl.

And so I thought it was pretty obvious by middle of the second quarter. You start listening to the commentary. You can tell if you listen to the announcers. Mike Vrable at half, Kyle Shanahan before the game, Collinsworth during the game. You know, these guys are sitting in a stadium or on the sidelines. Vrabel at half time, it was almost discouraged. He knew there was a reality setting in.

The other thing that's interesting about yesterday, let me ask you a question. Do you believe 30 starts for a quarterback, 30, that you can make a fairly definitive judgment on a quarterback after 30 starts? That's two years. well if you want and say yes that 30 starts you can you can have a strong opinion Sam Darnold's 25 and 5 with two teams pass a rating 98 and a half 250 yards a game and two touchdowns throwing for every interception and by the way if you take the rams out just the rams those numbers are spectacular those are a minus they're a plus if you

just take the Rams out. And again, Seattle and the Rams just hammered AFC teams this year. So, you know, I think you start looking at the NFL. Jalen Hertz, you guys have all, for the last couple of years, have been trying to tell me Brock Purdy and Jalen Hertz are top 10 quarterbacks. So is Sam Darnal now a top 10 quarterback? He's bigger than both. He's got a bigger arm than both.

I would say he's as athletic as Jalen Hertz. much better in the pocket, bigger athlete, throws over the middle of the field better. So all you want to Jalen Hertz and Brock Purdy in the top 10, C.J. Stroud is regressed. I mean, I love Justin Herbert. He'd never had a playoff run like this. So what do you do with Darnold? Well, the general manager. Okay, are we going to have excuses?

I mean, at some point, you take the snap and you make stuff happen, pre-snap, post-snap. So my take is, what do you do with Sam Darnold now? I feel like there's four or five guys, Burrough, Mahalms, Allen. There's a handful. I mean, and then you start getting into this next group of Caleb Williams, Jordan Love, Donald. Ask yourself this. Right now, look in the NFC. Forget the AFC.

Go to the NFC. Stafford and golf are not mobile. That matters. What quarterback in the NFC? Tomorrow, if you're building a franchise. Darnold's only 28. Tomorrow in the NFC. What quarterback do you take over Sam Darnold?

Nobody's taking Brock Purdy. Injuries, smaller, gets no, but not a GM in the league's taking Brock Purdy. Not a single GM. Shanahan will tell you public, Brock gets banged up, Brock is smaller, Brock's not this athletic, Brock's not this big. I mean, Brock, a playoff run with no turnovers, hoisting a trophy? Nobody's taking Jalen Hertz over Sam Darnold. Donald. Nobody. Donald is loved in the locker room. I have a source that tells me, and this is now like public, Jalen Hertz is not. He doesn't galvanize a locker room. So ask yourself, in the NFC, who would you take? I'm not talking Burrow, Mahomes, Al. I'm not talking that side. As JMAX said, the AFC at the top quarterback's unbelievable. It's like seven of the top eight quarterbacks. But Stafford's old, golf doesn't move. Jordan loves inconsistent. Jalen Hurts and

Purdy, not a GM in the league has taken them over Darnold. So who's the guy? Well, we know GM's whiff on quarterbacks a lot. Yes. So I don't know that I'd agree with that part. I'm sorry, I can't rock with you on this. Yes, I agree. Donald's had a great run, 25 and five last two seasons.

He is 28 older than Jaden Daniels, who I know got hurt last year. Jaden Daniels can't stay healthy. I agree. But if we did this a year ago, he had just been in the NFC championship and people were crowning him like top seven quarterback in the league. So he did get injured. But we have new information. I think Caleb had an awesome season.

I think Caleb Williams is... Jordan Love, for sure. Very inconsistent. I would personally go hurts and purdy. I know you disagree. And several GMs probably agree. Every GM disagrees. It's interesting.

We'll see what he does without Kubiak next year. We'll see. How do you do it without Kevin O'Connell? He did good. With Coviac. Justin Jefferson, Kevin O'Connell. Seattle's got a defensive coach. I don't know.

I just watched yesterday's game. Yeah. JSN did nothing and they were fine. Yeah, we'll see. Oh, boy. He's just so excited. You could hear the cackle at his voice out here. Dude, whatever you guys dream about, it was just Donald at a podium wearing a gold jacket. He was in Canton, Ohio. It was very emotional. I don't know what he was talking about, but it was very clear. Hey, guys, it's us and the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas.

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