The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Steelers still don't get it, Giants should bounce back, stop crying over the Dodgers

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

Colin Cowherd questions the direction of the Pittsburgh Steelers as they search for their first head coach in nearly 20 years. He believes they’re increasingly out of touch and what makes an elite head coach in today’s NFL. He explains why the New York Giants are in prime position to bounce back as a playoff contender in the NFC under new head coach John Harbaugh He believes the rest of the MLB is overreacting about the Dodgers signing Kyle TuckerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Here we go. Busy day, lots and lots to talk about. We got a good one today. We're alive in Chicago. It was 30. Felt like I was in Santropay when I woke up this morning. It's the herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. So I saw this story. Mike McCarthy to the Steelers, Blares the headline, why he'd be the right fit for Mike Tomlin.

Right fit in Pittsburgh. To replace Mike Tomlin. Okay, we get it, Pittsburgh. You blue-collar people, you like your own. You don't have to keep reminding us. Mike McCarthy isn't just older, he's old school. That was Mike Tomlin, right? Tone deaf to one side of the ball, a lot of penalties.

five years McCarthy was in Dallas. They averaged seven penalties a game, led the NFL. You know who has the fewest penalties in the NFL this year? Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan. In fact, the four least penalized teams, four young offensive coaches. McVe, Shanahan, Zach Taylor, Dave Canales. That's the NFL.

And just because you're older doesn't mean you have to be old. Kurt Signetti is 64. Just one in Natty. Have you heard about how he recruits and his view on athletes? It's very new school. Like McVeigh, his teams don't get penalized. Fewest penalties, FBS. They don't drop passes like McVeigh's teams. They don't fumble. Signetti, maybe 64. He is all about quarterback play in details. Richard Branson, late 70s, still cool, still hip, still with it. Jensen Wang, 62, founder of Nvidia.

I mean, innovative, sharp, progressive. Mike Tomlin and Mike McCarthy are kind of the same guy. Their football teams are loose. A lot of penalties. What works in the NFL today, day is young coaches. D'Amico Ryan's, McVeigh, young coaches who think young,

making trades in season, Howie Roseman, moving off tone-deaf coaches, pivoting off quarterbacks and players, finding your next quarterback, and putting them on a rookie deal for four or five years as you build a roster. All four things,

Steelers haven't done well. Mike Tomlin before Aaron Rogers got there. They're a penalty problem. Aaron cleaned up the offensive side of that and didn't throw as many picks. Suddenly they look detailed. No, that's Aaron Rogers. I got nothing against Mike McCarthy in Pittsburgh, but Pittsburgh doesn't do this hiring thing. And they get a lot of credit for it. Oh, Pittsburgh is loyal. The problem is they're like the guy who was married for 35 years and now gets divorced and is single. And thinks app is short for appetizer at Chili's. Like he doesn't understand dating apps.

They didn't have iPhones, social media when he got married. And that's Pittsburgh. Tomlin and McCarthy, that's the same guy. Good coach. Little light, little loose on the details. I mean, McCarthy's cowboy teams, awful with clock management, bad with penalties. Go look at McVeigh's team this week in Chicago in horrible weather for a warm weather team. Zero drop passes.

Zero penalties. Zero turnovers. That's what's happening in the NFL right now. It's changed. And the Steelers, they don't just date head coaches. They say, I love you and propose after the first date. Like, whoever they hire, they're here for 15 years, 10 minimum. And I got nothing against Mike McCarthy.

I wouldn't put him in the elite 7, 8, 9 top coaches, but he's in that second tier with Tomlin. Very, very good. But old school. Again, I'm not anti, I'm not ages. I'm older. Gray hair, lots of it, see? But you got to be young. You know, you got to think young.

That's what's happened to GMs in this league. You got to pivot off guys. You got to make in-season trades. Cincinnati, I don't know how old the owner is. They think old. Philadelphia, I don't know how old the owner is. They think young. So I just look at McCarthy-Tomlin.

Okay, I know you like Pittsburgh guys. One of us. I get it. That's not working and winning in this league right now. You can be a defensive coach. Dimeco Ryan's. Mike McDonald. Young, sharp with it.

Moving off people that don't work. Making moves, trades. At least understand offense. Have a feel for it, not tone deaf to it. So I, you know, it just, Pittsburgh's like, listen, the way we're doing things works. Let's go get the next version, kind of an offensive version of Tomlin. That's not it.

Here's Art Rooney on the Steelers coaching, sir. Nowadays, there are a number of protocols we have to follow that are sort of really designed to slow the process down. And so, as I say, it'll probably take at least a few weeks. Could I sign up for another Chuck Moll or another Bill Cower or another Mike Tomlin? Sure. Somebody that we feel fits that mold would be great. But for now, we're not going to kind of narrow the box too much. So when Jim Harbaugh got hired by the Chargers,

Jim Harbaugh's in his 60, but he came off and all his has is very boyish, very young. John Harbaugh similarly gets hired by the New York Giants. I mean, he feels like he's 37 years old. He is so excited. Everything out of his mouth, he's so excited. And I've said the New York Jet, when you list the teams that won four games last year,

tell me which one doesn't feel the same. Jets, Arizona, Tennessee, Vegas, New York Giants. The Giants had seven one score losses. In fact, they led three really solid teams, Denver, Chicago, and Detroit by double digits in the fourth quarter. They got leads. They couldn't keep them. The Giants had a better point differential than the Carolina Panthers who won a division. The New York Giants are a right tackle, probably another receiver, and a couple of dudes in the secondary from being an 11-win team.

They have needs. The whole league does outside of Seattle. everybody's got needs but there are good losses in football when the Bears lost to the Rams that's a good loss you may have lost to the best team and the best coach in football

and I mean you go into the offseason thinking we can play with anybody we're one play to play with anybody the Texans losing to the Patriots is a bad loss they don't even know if they like their quarterback anymore so you can be a four or five win team

look at it and go we got to get a right right tackle, another receiver, probably a tied-in and some secondary help. But I mean, watching Jim Harbaugh get hired by the Chargers, he's boyish. And my theme today is, you can be old, you got to think young. You can be in your 60s or 70s in a coach. You can't, I'm okay with it. But you got to be somebody that wakes up optimistic, not cynical, that understands offense,

can appreciate defense. Here's John Harbaugh sounding young and like the right choice on Jackson Dardis quarterback. You build your team around your quarterback. I mean, you build your team around your players and what they do well. And I like the way he plays. I like his talent, skill set, all the things he's accomplished. But more than that, I like who he is and what he's about. To me, he's about football.

I mean, this young guy loves football. He wants to talk football all the time. And, you know, and that's kind of what I like doing too. so I think we're going to have a lot of great conversations. I can't wait to get started with them. So the other thing that's important and instructive here, when you hire John Harbaugh in the NFC East, you immediately first day on the job today

have the best coach in the division. And yet they were only a four-win team. If Las Vegas hires a coach with Andy Reed, Jim Harbaugh, and Sean Payton, you probably still have the fourth best coach. in the division. If Arizona hires a coach today with McVeigh, Mike McDonald,

and Shanahan, you probably have the fourth best coach in the division, even if you get a guy that works. John Harbaugh today doesn't just feel right. This morning, best coach in the division.

And we don't know. Jackson Dart, you can at least argue if he stays out of the blue tent because Jaden Daniel's injuries now a concern. Do you have the best quarterback in the division? We'll know by Thanksgiving. Next Thanksgiving. We'll have a feel for it. So it wouldn't, I've said this about the Giants. Four win teams are not all the same. Playoff losses are not all the same. I mean, Denver feels terrible, but they just watch Bo Nix outplay Josh Allen. If you're the Denver Broncos,

win or lose this week, you go into the offseason thinking, we're there. We're ready to hoist a trophy. And the Giants at four wins do not confuse them with Tennessee or in Arizona or a Las Vegas or the Jets. Not the same. John Harbaugh could have taken a lot of gigs. Why did he step up really quickly, see this one, and take it? Okay.

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Every year I see the TV rating for the Pro Bowl. I've never watched one. It's a practice football. I'd rather watch an exhibition game from a team that I'll monitor. They're mostly, though, what you like, I like. You like March Madness. You like the Masters. You like the NFRA.

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I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever, because everything that had existed,

prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I said before the break, Diana Rusini top of the next hour, Phil Sims through today. I said as I sent the show to break is that you and I mostly agree on everything. I mean, we do. I mean, day to day, we may disagree on a football pick. you like the home run derby more than I do in the Pro Bowl, but by and large, what you like I like. And the way you think is mostly how I think.

I would say more than anything, people come up to me and go, I think your show is pretty common sense. Believe it or not, that's what they say. But here's something where I just totally disagree. There's too much fear-mongering out there. I saw this quote. Major League baseball owners are enraged by Kyle Tucker to the Dodgers deal. They will push for a salary cap no matter what.

what? It took a Kyle Tucker move to outrage you. Cub fans complained about them all year. They wanted them out of town. Did you forget about the angels spending $380 million $15 years ago, or close to it, on Albert Pooleholz and Josh Hamilton, which, if you look at what that's worth today with inflation, it's $540 million. That didn't bother anybody. Why? Because the angels were poorly run, and it didn't change outcomes. The Yankees in 2010, the four highest paid players, check, check, check, check, four Yankees, four for four. But they're not considered well-run.

And even though they spent a ton every year and a half for 30 years in the last 10 to 15, it doesn't change outcomes. That doesn't bother you. The Dodgers aren't just rich. That's not it. Let's keep it 100. They're rich and exceptionally well-run and winning the World Series. That's what bothers you.

Juan Soto, Yankees' Mets didn't bother you because he went to the Mets. They'll gag. They're the Mets. Studies have shown you can be rich and unattractive or handsome and poor, and men aren't necessarily jealous of you. But if you're rich and good-looking, studies show men hate you. And that's the Dodgers. They are rich, good-looking, driving a convertible, own a tech company, and keep being the richest guy in the sport.

And it pisses you off. It's not just about the money. Kyle Tucker outrages you. Mookie Betts was arguably the best player in the American League, not a peep. Josh Hamilton, Albert Pullhole, Angels, not a peep. 2010, Yankees had all the highest paid players. I don't know. Nobody in New York was outraged.

Steve Collins trying to put together an All-Star team. Crickets. Kyle Tucker, in playoffs, career is a 230 hitter. Chicago complained about him all year. That's the guy that set you off. No, what set you off is that game seven win in back-to-back World Series titles. Last year I had Dave Roberts on the show The Dodger Manager, and I asked him about it.

The Dodgers, like everybody said, are ruining baseball. Baseball viewership is at an all-time high. Baseball players are better than they've ever been. we are going to have more eyeballs watching this World Series than ever because of the country of Canada, the U.S., and Japan, and beyond, right? So obviously the Dodgers are not ruined baseball. It's in a great state. And I was just kind of taking a dig at these crazy people that say that what we do, and I think we do it really well, we're ruining baseball. I don't remember a game seven in Major League Baseball in a division series, whatever series, you know, NLCS,

ALCS World Series of game seven. I don't remember a game seven. That riveting than last year. Glued every pitch. Kyle Tucker outrages you. That's the one. This morning I wrote down in order who I think are the top

10 Dodger players. I could be off on this, but I wrote a list of the top 10 Dodger players. I had Kyle Tucker at 8. Shohei, Mukhi, Yoshi, Freeman, Edwin Diaz, the best reliever in baseball, Blake Snell, when healthy, Will Smith, great catcher, Kyle Tucker,

Roki, and Tyosca Hernandez. By the way, Teoska Hernandez, I had recently had dinner with Tom Ricketts, the Cubs owner, what a great guy. And I asked him about the Dodgers privately, but now I'll say it publicly. He had nothing but respect and admiration. He goes to the best run team in baseball. He goes, they happen to be the richest team in baseball right now. He goes to the best run team in baseball.

He goes, I have total admiration for what they do. Andrew Friedman down. They just know what they're doing. We should not be eating and biting away at them. They got a better TV deal, better in R&D. And he was very proud. The Cubs have had a great offseason. Bregman at third, got another top starting pitcher.

Kyle Tucker left Cubs will be better. But what you should be mad about if you're a fan isn't the Dodgers. It's Taya Oscar Hernandez, the 10th best Dodger. Maybe it's Mac Moncey, but I think. to Aska Hernandez is a beast. He's been available twice to the sport. And your billionaire owner didn't get him. And he's a great player for the Dodgers at a very reasonable number. St. Louis could afford him. The Pirates billionaire could afford him. The Mariners could afford him. Detroit could afford him. Cleveland could afford him. I'm not sure if the A's could afford me.

The point being is great player. He's been available to the Dodgers have signed him twice. Max Muncie was an A. They let him go. Otani was an angel. He didn't win enough games. This idea that Kyle Tucker created the outrage, let's be totally honest about that. If the Dodgers weren't winning, you'd be laughing at them. They're winning and you're ticked off.

People do not like, studies have also illustrated this. People do not like when they feel other people are separating from them. Guys don't like that. You can make more than me by a little. and it does feel like the Dodgers have separated. It should be noted, seventh game, beat the Blue Jays. Blue Jays for most of the series felt like the better team. The Blue Jays more consistently hit than the Dodgers did.

They got some breaks, they got good managing, they got guys that step up. This idea that I'm supposed to Kyle Tucker, that's what really set a sport off. It's like I hear this about college football constantly. Oh, it's in chaos. I just watched the best national championship game I can remember. It was in chaos when Bama in Georgia and Clemson every year were in the national championship for about 15 years. That was trouble.

Attendance down, ratings down. Baseball's in an incredible spot. Well, what about the pirates? What about them? They couldn't compete when Steinbrenner ran the Yankees. They hadn't been good since the 70s in Willie Storzel. Weren't they great in the late 70s? When I was a kid growing up in the mid-70s, I can't.

can name the whole infield. You want me to go, Mani Sangin? You know, Al Oliver, Rennie St. Veras and short, they were great. They haven't been great consistently forever. It's not a Dodgers issue. Well, what about the Cardinals can't afford? St. Louis has been dying as a city for 20 years.

They've lost 15 Fortune 500 companies in 40 years. They lost an NFL team. St. Louis has dried up as a city. It's Hartford with an arch. Don't blame the Dodgers for that or the Yankees for that or Steve Cohen for that. I feel strongly about this. You and I totally disagree on this stuff. If the Dodgers

would have lost to the Blue Jays, you'd be like, yeah, keep buying those players. You laughed at the Mets. Didn't you laugh at the Mets this year? It's funny, they spent all that money, they stunk. They got the richest owner, not the Dodgers. J-Mack with the news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. All right, let's get started with an interesting press conference that went down earlier today in Buffalo. Colin, I don't know what on earth owner Terry Pagula was doing, but he was hosting a presser with Brandon Bean, the embattled GM, who somehow got promoted after McDermott got fired. And regarding Keon Coleman and the drafting of the former, I don't know, can we call him a quasi-star in college, it was very good.

Listen to the owner jump in and defend Bean and bury McDermott. Over Keon Coleman. Can I interrupt? I'll address the Keon situation. The coaching staff pushed to draft Keon. I'm not saying Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice. That was Brandon being a team player

and taking advice of his coaching staff. who felt strongly about the player. And, you know, he's taken, for some reason, heat over it and not saying a word about it, but I'm here to tell you the true story. By the way, isn't that player still on the team? He is on the team. He was a healthy scratch many times this year.

By the way, why would you do that when he's still on the team? Like, why in the world would it, would my boss come out and say, You know, I wasn't really on the Cowherd Bandwagon. It was... So it gets worse, Colin. Oh, good. So somebody found a video from the NFL Combine,

just propped on the internet. Brandon Bean praising Keon Coleman's 40 time and the ability to get him in the draft. So, I mean, listen, you know how this works, these power struggles in front offices. As soon as things get embattled, everybody cozies up to the owner. I can get his ear.

I can kind of push the other guy out while saving my own hide. I don't know that that's what went on here, but that's what it feels like. When was the last time you've seen an owner jump in and pick a side over a draft pick? Kion, first of all, and Keon Coleman's disappointment. Let's be fair to Kiann Coleman, the young man. Florida to Buffalo isn't the easiest transition for any young person in America to make. Secondly, he had a touchdown last week.

Third, wide receivers, our first round wide receivers, struggle in terms of bust more than any other position. So it is a lot asking a kid to go from a college offense to Josh Allen, Dionne Dawkins, Brady's sophisticated offense. So Coleman's got a lot of talent. I think he needs to grow up a little bit, mature a little bit. I think that's part of it. But I don't like this at all. Calling out an employee when he is still a young man, an ascending player potential.

He had a touchdown last week. Yeah. Well, let's be fair. A lot of quarterbacks, receivers, a lot of players in the first round don't hit. in near one. Coleman actually fell right to 33 at the top of the second round. But here's how the order went. It was a wide receiver run.

Pierceall, who's been a disappointment, can't stay healthy. Then Leggett went to Carolina. He's been up and down. Then Keon Coleman, who's right in that group, the problem is right after Keon Coleman, Ladd-McConkey, who's done some pretty damn good things with the Chargers. Yeah, but Ladd McConkey went to Harbaugh and Herbert, who were desperate for a receiver, so he got a million throws and looks.

Yeah. So, I mean, I think Lad's terrific, but that's a, If you could say I could go to Harbaugh and Herbert and be the number one receiver immediately in the slot, that's a pretty good place to land. 100%. I'm with you. I don't like burying a player that's still on the roster. I mean, essentially, what do you say? We don't want this guy?

And now that everybody knows you don't like him and didn't want him, nobody's offering anything credible for it. That's horrible. I mean, again, when you're, maybe I'm pandering the players here. but I just, I don't like calling out young players publicly. Privately, ream them all you want. Bring them into the office. But I don't like Keon Coleman's a kid. I mean, he's listening to this.

And I mean, he's, what is he thinking today? And again, that's, all I'm saying is, this is weird. This is ugly. They got the, they got the, um, PR announcement wrong. They waited like two days to finally go to their social media and give McDermott, um, you know, McDermott. is laughing at all this. You know what Sean McDermott's doing?

I told you it was a zoo. I told you it was a mess. Sean McDermott looks like he escaped from Buffalo. That's what it looks like right now. Fair enough, that's what it looks like. Yeah. I mean, this is, as a Jets fan, I love watching the bills implode. And Colin, that's what's happening.

I know you don't love to listen to, like, fan bases. The fan bikes right now in Buffalo is so angry that McDermott got fired and Bean is still employed. Yeah. They've broken down his draft history. It's abysmal. Listen, I had to take Friday with Rachel. You were out that I think the Buffalo Bill's Super Bowl window with Josh Allen has shrunk. And I don't know that there's much of a window left, Colin.

Let's be real. 30 years old, he's taking a lot of hits. The injuries started, haven't piled up yet, but he started to wear down. We saw Mahomes crack this season. Cam Newton at age 30 fell apart. I'm just saying, Josh Allen, he gets a turf toe injury. And this is a five-win Buffalo team. Okay?

Things are not looking good for Buffalo right now. Now let's move on to a positive story, and that's Mike McDaniel. We talked about him a lot, the sharp genius, the wizard, who was fired by the Miami Dolphins. He's going to the Chargers to be the offensive coordinator, pairing with, oh my gosh, Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert. Everybody wanted McDaniel, except the Lions, apparently. Tampa Bay was hot for him. The Eagles were very interested. Colin, this is a great landing spot.

You know Harbaugh's not going anymore. You know Herbert's not going anywhere. Yes. And you get to go from Miami to Los Angeles to great American cities. This is awesome. Yeah, this is a really, really good fit. It's going to have a lot of, they'll look a lot like, honestly, they'll look a lot like the Rams offense, a lot of motion, a lot of sets.

He's a very creative guy. You know, it's interesting. I think both of us don't know if he's a head coach, but he's a great offensive guy. And again, I'll say this. He got the dolphins to the playoffs, I believe, two times. he made Tua a pro bowler. I didn't like getting Tyree

Kill necessarily because my take was they already had, I think Jaden Waddled and Tua is not a deep ball thrower and you're not going to win Super Bowls because you have a track team. You're going to win Super Bowls because you have good O-Line D-line. Go look at the Miami Hurricanes. There's a Miami team that's good. Why? Trenches. That's what wins in cold weather.

Trenches. Rams. Defensive front. Right? Like Denver, a lot of sacks. So, I mean, to me, I think this is a, about if I was Justin Herbert, I'd get the checkbook out and I'd help. Because the trajectory and the opinion on Justin Herbert now is like, well, when are we going to see? Watch Justin Herbert's reaction if he gets signed.

This is so good for him. I know you and I are equally bullish on Herbert and the Chargers. Just remember everybody, they made the playoffs the last two years. They'll get both of their tackles back. Their rookie O'Mary in Hampton was injured a lot. He's going to be back with Vidal. They got the receiving cord. Gadsden emerged.

I mean, listen, if you want hot take off season, this is a top three team in the AFC next year for me, Colin. I think the Chargers are really – now, they're probably going to lose Minter, right? The defensive coordinator, he's interviewing everywhere. But I like a lot of things about the Chargers. Final story, it's got to Brian Daibel, another offensive coordinator in high demand. According to Diana Rusini, Philadelphia is conducting their OC search with the understanding that Daible,

wants the Buffalo Bill's job. Now, if he doesn't get that, and maybe he doesn't want to go into that messy cauldron over there, he could go to Tennessee as their offensive coordinator for Robert Sala. Cullen, if Mike McDaniel and Brian Dable do not want to work with Sariani and Hertz, what does that tell you about Philadelphia right now? Well, it's Philadelphia as a hard place to coach, and it's certainly a hard place.

It feels like, to me, a Syrian. has escaped the criticism. I mean, so Saryani sits there because he's got a trophy, and when you get the job, nobody talks about Sariani. They're not going to talk about Vig Fangio, who's great. The offensive coordinator is getting ripped for hours, regardless of who it is. He's taking all the arrows. So to me, it's like, time out.

You can all see that Siriani is totally reliant on coordinators. How about he gets the criticism, not the coordinator? So to me, I think it's probably the toughest coordinator job in the NFL is the Philadelphia Eagles, a very loud franchise where you and I, and I've said this before, is I still don't know if Siriani, if he was available to the market today as a head coach, would people be lined up like they were for Stefanski? Or I don't think they would. Like I could be wrong.

So, you know, like some people are offense. Some people are defense. Harbaugh was a special teams guy famously. I don't know what Siriani. He's an offensive guy. Oh, really? Yes. That's why he has to change his offensive coordinator every year.

And Jalen Hertz is declining supposedly rapidly. And the Eagles offense was a massive issue all season. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News.

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constantly because rabel right now is a better coach than bellichick is today so number one is you have to keep Belichick away from pro personnel. He's so arrogant. He thinks he's good at it. He's awful at it. His last seven years were brutal in New England with personnel on draft day. I was told by two sources mid-January. He said, guys, I got it from here. Awful.

Nick Casario left him, went to Houston. Now Houston drafts as well as anybody in the league. Because Belichick had his thumb on him. And Brandon Bean is the GM of Buffalo. He's not known as a great draft guy either. He's a great cap guy. He's a smart guy. He's a confident guy.

He doesn't have the best reputation. In my sourcing as a great, you know, Jason Lighten, Tampa, John Snyder guy, less need guy, Brett Veach, Vech guy, Howie Roseman. That's not his thing. He's not a great trade guy. He's not a great draft guy. He may be okay. He's not great. Belichick's a disaster.

Indisputable disaster. Number two is old defensive coaches, this is a theory of mine. They don't age as well. I think the league's now getting younger with coaches, but I'm okay with older offensive coaches. Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Andy Reid, because offensive coaches tend to be creators. It's like Hollywood. Hollywood's got all sorts of 70-year-old directors and actors and writers and entertainers. Creative people age better than brute force.

And defensive guys are about toughness and volume, and there's a way to do it, an authoritarian. Remember the late Bobby Knight how he ate. Not very well. Very restrictive, very rigid. My way of the highway, that's Belichick. Belichick has said, you know, I only want to coach certain guys, my kind of guys. I mean, literally he made Matt Patricia an offensive coordinator. I don't think defensive coaches, old defensive coaches age as well.

Brute force has a ceiling. Creativity is ageless. If you're smart and funny and creative, you could be a stand-up comic in your 70s. George Burns was funny dilly died. Creatives age better. That's not Bill's thing. And the other thing is, and we have to be totally honest about this, Belichick, there's no new guys in his circle. He hires retreads.

Even in Carolina, he kept Freddie Kitchens, and that's another old guy, Bobby Vitrina. He doesn't want a new young set of eyes unless the last name is Belichick. It's one of his kids. I know that sounds brutal. But go look at his New England hires. He hires guys that have failed elsewhere. where's his McVeigh on the staff or his Kyle Shanahan on the staff? Where are they?

Vrable will go get it. So I'm not anti-defensive guy. I'm not. I think Damico Ryan's is great. Mike McDonald's, Seattle's amazing. I prefer offensive guys, but I can live with a defense. Brian Flores, I've been saying this for two years. Somebody give that guy a job.

I think he's great. But you can't let Bill do anything with a draft. You can't let him touch it. Brutal. Secondly, defensive. older defensive guys, the numbers are right here. They don't age as well. Third, he doesn't put any new guys.

I mean, Andy Reid's always got a new young guy in his staff. He's got plenty of young guys. I don't mind old guys on the staff. I'm not agist. But you've got to have new fresh voices and eyes on your product. Carolina feels like family and friends. New England at the end, retreads. Let's bring Joe Judge back.

How about not? I mean, again, and I think Matt Patricia is really good. for the record. He could be on any staff I had. So, I don't know. I mean, silence of the lambs was 35 years ago, but we saw what happened to the first Buffalo bill. It's not good. I'm not going there. Here's Brandon Bean on the bill's potentially hiring an offensive head coach.

We'll definitely give those guys every chance, but we've got to be careful not to just, this is a bigger job than just a play caller and a schemer. I think we've seen where guys have been excellent. play callers but they got to the head coach seat and they couldn't handle the adversity the conflict management all the things that it's a CEO job that that's for the record that's exactly right it is a luxury when you get Kyle Shanahan who's a CEO and a great scheme guy Andy reads that but Andy Reid also says I

don't want to touch the draft any read has no interest in the draft so you know who would I hire Brian Daibald feels like he could handle a conflict. He's been in New York as a head coach. This is a small market, probably easier. Let's be honest. Daniel Jones with the Giants is harder than Josh Allen with the bills. That's an easier lift. I'm sorry. What are the three or four things you need in the NFL? You need a star quarterback, check, a great left tackle, check, an edge rusher, Bosa, check. They've got a lot of checks. They really check a lot of boxes. They got a new stadium, so revenue's going to go up. is going to be much more attractive to free agents.

You got loyal fan base. I understood the McDermott dismissal. I did. They just kept, it was always something. But I'll tell you, since he left, it doesn't look great. I disagree with J. Mack. I think if you have Josh Allen, a great left tackle, weapons, an edge rusher, you're going to be fine.

This is a league in which, if you have a star quarterback, as long as you keep redoing his deal, so you have some space to go get a weapon, you're going to be, fine. The idea that Josh Allen for seven years is done. Josh Allen had a bad game against Denver. Josh Allen, it should be noted, MVP last year in the running this year. If you have an MVP level quarterback,

it's hard not to be kind of good. Well, they're going to be good, yeah. They're going to win 7, 8, 9, 10 games, but the days of 13 wins, AFC championship, Colin, they got eight free agents who are starters. Okay? Now you've got a new head coach. Don't know what that transition is going to be like. Is there going to be a new offensive

coordinator? Are they keeping Brady? A lot of questions. The thing I keep coming back to is Josh Allen, Colin, turns 30 this off season, has not really been injured. As long as he's breathing, they're fine. They'll be competitive. But remember. But win a Super Bowl? Remember.

Remember. Matt Stafford got the you know what beat out of him for a dozen years in Detroit. He is going to be 38 or 39 Super Bowl week. He is still elite. And he doesn't have the ability to escape. He's had concussions. he's had a litany of injuries. He's 38 and humming.

He's not the, he's got a great arm. He's not the athlete of Josh Allen. Also, he entered the league. You didn't have all this nutritional upgrades. The quality of these quarterbacks and, you know, the pliability stuff they go through, Josh Allen can play as long as he wants to play because he's like a great shooter in the NBA.

He's going to have an arm when he's 54. I don't worry about that stuff. But what I worry about, in my take on this story with Belichick is, every coach has a hole. Even the great ones have a hole. Belichick doesn't think his whole is a hole. Now, Belichick with players already in the league is very savvy and very sharp. Bill watches Sunday football.

Do you think Jimmy Johnson coached in college football? Jimmy Johnson spends his Saturdays for eight hours watching college football. Jimmy Johnson was great with college personnel. When he rebuilt the cow, he made that Herschel Walker trade. Nobody make trades like that. Jimmy is one of the rare guys loved college football. Love the personnel. There's not, now, Jim Harbaugh, because he's coached and college.

He loves college football, too. Look at the Chargers' last two drafts. They've been very, very good because Harbaal loves college football. If I were a Chiefs fan, I would be pushing Bill Belichick to the bills, too. Andy Reid doesn't. Andy Reid doesn't watch college football on Saturday. That's why he doesn't want anything to do with it. Andy will tell you, let Brett Veach do it.

Some guys love college football. Jimmy Johnson did. Jimmy's arguably the best personal guy we've ever had as a head coach. And by the way, most aren't. Pete Carroll came out of USC. First three years, Searks were stealing guys in the sixth round. Okay? So my take is that Belichick is not a Saturday guy.

No. I mean, last year was a disaster. He's smart enough to make the program better. Carolina should be better this year. But this was, for the record, this is this story, what Rex Ryan is saying, this is what I was saying, and I think you were saying it last year. Remember his contract had a very quick out.

He did. And I kept saying the two jobs he would look at, Eagles with Howie Roseman. Now, I think Bill in Philly with Howie Roseman as a GM, that tracks. Because he's not going to be near the personnel. But in Buffalo, where Brandon Bean is not,

and again, smart guy, he's known as a very sharp guy, great cap guy. He doesn't in recent years have a great record and I understand the draft is hard. It's really, even the great GMs, with all the time. So I think Philly with Belichick,

I would support that move today. Yeah, there's nothing here with Buffalo Belichick. There's no chance a guy like Brandon Bean who's clearly insecure, which is why he ran off McDermott. Zero chance he's entertaining Belichick. And you know ownership. They don't want him in there. So that's not, it's a non-starter. I think the real interesting one is Daibol.

because Daibel is who made Josh Allen. That's how you win the fan base back. They loved Brian Daible. Offensive genius. That was the best years of Josh Allen. I think that's the move. You got to bring him back. But then you lose Joe Brady.

The air thing is... There's no easy fix here, Colin. This team is in trouble, man. I'm just telling you. They're not as much trouble. Look around the AFC, the young quarterback. Jets are a disaster. Dolphins, you know, just hired a defensive guy.

Brable and New England are going to be great, and Buffalo is going to be really, really good too. Those two are going to run this division for years. The reality is 14 teams make the playoffs, you know, seven each conference. If Josh Allen is upright, they're going to be in that playoff chase

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