The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - The Bears finally win, the Rams need more help, Harbaugh and Herbert are the perfect combo

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

The Chicago Bears finally notch their first win of the NFL season — and Colin Cowherd breaks down why he's beginning to believe in the growing chemistry between rookie quarterback Caleb Williams and new head coach Ben Johnson He gives his thoughts to the Rams losing to the Eagles and why they need to make a move before the trade deadline The Jim Harbaugh-Just Herbert combo is working quite well so far this seasonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh, here we go to Monday. What a crazy, crazy Sunday of NFL football. Carson Wentz, Marcus Mario de Chomping it up. What is it, 2017? We are live. It's the herd one hour from now where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, plenty of both. J. Mack, all the years I've been watching football.

There has never been a Sunday like that, ever been a Sunday like that. Seven games had winning scores in the last three minutes. That's the most in 48 years. And most went the opposite way of how you thought they would end up. That was easily, in my adult life, the weirdest Sunday. Tampa Bay led like, what was it, 23 to 6 at home with a better quarterback in the fourth quarter and needed a walk-off kick to win over the awful jets. Yeah, Falcons every week, heart attack in the final seconds.

Oh, my God. So let's start with the Bears. Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson, beat the Cowboys. Two things were abundantly clear. Number one, that Ben Johnson, the coach and Caleb Williams, the quarterback, had some real harmony. They finally found a rhythm. We've been waiting for that. A couple of great drives.

End of the first half, start of the third. Eight different players saw the ball. The screen game was working. Creativity, structure, the run game. In fact, over the course of the game. game. There were 28 pass attempts. There were 29 rush attempts. This team has tons of offensive talent. Caleb Williams, structure, creativity. Now, Caleb can be more accurate, throwing it down field than he can on a six-yard out. But it was rhythm. And that's what I said. I don't need to

win. Progress, advancement. Can you show me rhythm outside of the first drive? So that was abundantly clear they found some of that. Imperfect, but they found it. The second thing that is abundantly clear is Mike has gone and Dallas's defense is absolutely atrocious. It is awful. I don't know how Cole come at and DJ Moore can get that open in the end zone. Like I don't know. On third down, they can't get anybody off the field. Matt Eber Fluse got completely worked by the guy that replaced him Ben Johnson. Dallas is bad. And so there's two things. Dallas, made Russell Wilson look like Seahawks Russell Wilson, and Caleb Williams got loose.

And again, I said, we said on this show, it's just you got to get away from the Ws. They don't have the Packers talent or Detroit's. They're not going to be the Eagles or the Rams, but let's put it in proper context. You saw something. Like pass, run, screen game. It's not a lack of talent.

They got talent. I didn't need a win. Move the football. I didn't see a sack. There were no sacks. It was layered. They were better on third down. And they trick plays. They hit the open guys. Now, I'd still think Caleb, I don't know if it's mechanics, anxiety, or he's rushing it, he can dirt balls from five feet away. It drives Ben Johnson crazy. Coaches design plays, the clever, creative ones. Even their trick play wasn't smooth. It worked. The Cowboys, you know, weren't covered. covering it. But Caleb's got a power arm. He's a remarkable athlete. This is a really smart, structured coach who puts all sorts of creativity in it. And so I got everything. I got Ben's creativity. I got Caleb's horsepower. It worked. At least it worked against Dallas. But that's okay. I had said opening up with Brian Flores and then facing Detroit in Detroit off a blowout

loss to Green Bay. That is a tough opening act when you're just learning a new system. It's okay to occasionally get a bad defense. There's about 15 of them in the NFL, but when you get a bad defense, you have to make the most of it. And I thought Chicago at home did. I thought they got momentum. They were creative, and it wasn't perfect. Ben Johnson wears his emotions on his face. You can see when he's upset. But balance, clever, creative, power running. I liked it. Here was Ben after. It'll be fun for tonight. And then we're on to the next one. We're behind the eight ball here. We're one and two, and we've got to get back to 500 here.

It's early, but we've got to get the issues fixed. And I thought those guys were committed to that here this week. And we had a good week of preparation, and they came out, and they played inspired football today. And so good things happen when you're playing hard, you're playing physical, and you're playing for the guy next to you, and I thought that's what happened here today. Okay, so Brian Flores, that was tough.

and then the ticked off lions on the road, that was brutal. Awful Dallas rolled. Okay, now here come the Raiders, a team that's not very good. The quarterback will give you the ball back, and then it's a buy. So we said it was a rough opening act. Remember, in the preseason, now you don't take a lot of snaps. It was bound. We told you one of our favorite bets that week was Minnesota playing Chicago.

Detroit was a rough spot, but they took care of business. they should beat the Raiders who are trying to find their way. Then they get a buy. It's a little early than you'll want to buy, but you've got the Saints on the schedule. You're going to have the Bengals without Joe Burrow. You've got the awful giants at home. At Minnesota, we don't know what they are. Pittsburgh at home.

There's some wins here. Nine and eight is optimistic, but you have to take care of the you got to take care of the games. You should win. And it was pretty clear yesterday between Caleb and Ben and the playmakers. you got to win that game. And they did. Comfortably.

That's progress. Okay. In one of the weirdest games ever, the Rams dominate Philadelphia in the first half. And then Nick Seriani, I've never been the biggest fan, had to go in at halftime and make adjustments. And he did. And the adjustment was, just pass the ball to A.J. Brown.

So the Rams match up well with Philadelphia. We've seen that the last two times they play, except two areas. They don't have big physical corners, and A.J. Brown can eat them alive. They didn't draft one. It was a surprise. They should have. The Rams have smaller corners, and they do not match up with A.J. Brown at all. Ten targets, six catches, most yards all season.

He's just tossing guys like croutons and a salad bowl. The second problem the Rams have, they're not very good at center. they had a back-up right guard. Uh-oh. Between Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis, the Eagles have the best interior D-line. I mean, honestly, by a long shot in the NFL, well, it's not a position of strength for the Rams. We saw it last year when Jalen Carter blew up the Rams offense in the snow to seal a Philly win, and we saw it yesterday.

Two block kicks. Then, on a fourth and one, the Rams' truce. tried to run it and went backwards. So between A.J. Brown manipulating the smaller ram corners and the ram's inability to block two great interior defensive linemen for Philadelphia, they're not beating this team unless they make a move, in my opinion, at the trade deadline. And I know, I know all of you were saying this morning, hey, God, I thought Jalen Hertz wasn't good from the pocket. Well, he had minus one passing yards in the first half.

It was embarrassing. And Jalen has these halves where he looks like he does not know what he's doing. But to Nick Saryani's credit, Siriani listens to his players and relates to his players, and they went in half and figured it out. Get the ball to A.J. Brown. So nobody in this league wins as imperfectly as the Eagles. I mean, Sean McVeigh does not lose

10-point leads. He never loses 26-7. Matt Stafford missed a couple of open receivers, but for Sean McVeigh to lose a game leading 26-to-7, it just doesn't happen. Philadelphia's defense is very good, but it was those blocked kicks in the fourth and one that was the difference.

So between A.J. Brown and the defensive interior line of the Eagles, the Rams do not match up Philadelphia in those two spots. So Nick Sariani and Jalen Hertz deserve a ton of credit for the second half. And A.J. Brown, who is an insane talent, there are, listen, he matches up well, against almost everybody. But against the Rams, I'm surprised it took half-time regrouping to figure it out. They can't, they can't stop him.

There's nothing they can do. He's a terrible matchup for them, and here's AJ after. I truly believe, man, we got so many good players on this team, you know, and at times, you know, you can feel like we're being conservative. And I don't think it should be like that. You know, I think it should, you know, let your killers do their thing, you know, and play fast and play aggressive. You know, we have a lot of good players, and we have, and I feel like you should just let us go, you know, so, you know, so it shouldn't be like that. It is. It's going to be like that.

I will say it is the craziest day I've ever seen. I've never seen a game like that. I officially, I'm just not going to count that Rams loss on the Blazing Five. It never existed. I'm just not counting it. I don't care. That hurt. It would be nice if in the history of the show I could ever win a game like that.

But then again, J-Mack had the Falcons over Carolina. It was 30-0. So, I mean, listen, it was a bad day. But I want to let you listen to the Eagle Radio Network. on the block kick that ended up sealing it for the Eagles. Here we go. They blocked him the last time. The ball is spotted.

The kick is away. It's blocked. It's blocked. It's picked up by the Eagles. Running with it is Davis. 30, 20, 10, 5. Touchdown. Game over.

I mean, you could say it was bad luck. It wasn't. They did it twice. They blew them off. on the fourth and one. They did it last year in the NFC divisional round. Like the Rams can't block the Eagles interior studs. They can't block them.

I mean, that fourth and one wasn't even close. So hats off to Philadelphia, which, I mean, listen, part of football is finding the liability of the team you face. It took them a half. But the Rams can't block their interior, and they can't cover A.J. Brown into the Philly, their credit, they discovered it, leaned into it, and won. J. Mack, that was nuts. What is a, just a nutty day?

By the way, not only did I have the Falcons, those losers that you tried to steer me off of. I had the Tennessee Titans who got their doors blown off. However, they have a quarterback who's underutilized and played in Kansas City and was awesome and could match up with A.J. Brown. His name is Legerius Sneed. I wonder if you could put in a call to your guy less Sneed with the Rams and say, hey, do you want to kick the tires on and the Titans aren't going anywhere? I was way wrong about them. I mean, you got to make a move.

The Rams have a Super Bowl team. Do you go look for a corner on the market? Remember last year, Washington got Latimore from the Saints. They got to the NFC championship. So I think it's worth making a move. No, I think the Rams at the trade deadline, they have got to get at least one big physical corner because it was a mismatch. It wasn't like AJ Brown had separated.

He was just bigger and stronger than all the Rams smaller, talented corners. So it was a surprise the Rams didn't draft a corner. I mean, that was one of their draft needs, and they didn't use any pick on a corner. And it's like, oh, man, this is really showing up. Okay. Coming up next, the world's greatest football coach, Jim Harbaugh, pulled it off again. And I want to talk about that next. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd, Weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

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Chargers win over Denver, 23 to 20. So as the Chiefs were stumbling and bumbling to a win over the New York Giants, Harbon Herbert have officially taken over the AFC West. Three and O, all division wins. And yesterday the Chargers had every reason to lose. Denver's great pass rush, the Chargers were missing multiple offensive linemen. Kaleel Mack's still not there. Naji Harris got hurt.

they fumbled the opening kickoff in the third they were less rested because they played in a short week and yet harbaugh and herbert found away justin herbert got hammered he got hit 14 times that is a most and the chargers over the last 20 years have had some battle lines that is the most a charger quarterback has been hit in 20 years in fact just Justin Herbert was pressured on 55% of his throws. He threw 49 times. He was pressured on over half the most Justin Herbert's ever been pressured in his career. And yet this kid is extending plays, getting attacked, getting hammered.

He leaves the NFL right now in 310 yards passing per game, and we're still not sure if Quentin Johnson's any good. and Keenan Allen, who's had four major surgeries. I mean, if you don't get Justin Herbert's greatness, you literally do not understand football. There were seven reasons they should have lost that game, and yet the greatest coach in the history of football, Jim Harbaugh pulled him through. And if he went to a lab to create a quarterback, it would be Herbert. It's the perfect quarterback for him. Tough, physical, smart, willing to be coached.

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Jim Harbaugh still in awe of it after it was over. There's almost something about it. I mean, it takes that hit. I mean, there's no facial expression that changes. There's no limp. There's no

you know, it doesn't grab any, it's like it didn't even happen, but it, it, there's something in his competitive fire. It almost, It just motivates him even more. It even takes them to another notch. You know, whatever fill in the blank is happening. I mean, it's, I mean, he's one of one that I've ever seen at the quarterback position.

You can have Simon and Garfunkel. I will take Herbert and Harbaugh. He leads the NFL and wins in total yards per game. and for the last 20 games, haven't we all said, man, if they only had one big time receiver. Now they don't have Najee Harris. Backups playing backups on the O-Line against the Denver pass rush that is as gnarly as any in the league. I mean, they were on a short week. They fumbled the opening kickoff in the third.

Man, if you don't get the Justin Herbert thing, I can't help you. There are some things you just got to be able to see before he hoist. trophy, you got to understand how great that is. I mean, I keep saying, the size of the quarterback matters. Did you see how many times Justin Herbert got hit yesterday? 14 times, the most in two decades for a charger quarterback. I mean, I'm telling you, for years they've always had the coolest NFL uniforms. Now they got the coolest quarterback and the coolest coach.

unbelievable. A game almost everybody else in the league would have lost. Here's J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Conn, let's start with the Green Bay Packers.

I think you had them high up in your herd hierarchy. I forget if they were one or what. But listen, they were up 10-0 with like five minutes left in the game. And they blow it in Cleveland. Now, we tried to warn you that this was a look-ahe You did. I wouldn't bet it and you told me, you said it Tuesday. You said, don't touch this. Yeah, but even I was like afraid to go heavy on the Browns. They come back, win it, just miraculous turn of events. In Cleveland, they were celebrating like they were NFL won the Super Bowl. Yeah, they should.

Michael Parsons was disappointed after the loss. Here's what he had to say. It's just a reality of it happens to the best teams. Even the best super bowl chance, make mistakes and they pay for it early. You go back to the history of the champions and who they played and games they should have won. It's just part of the man. It's that competitive. It's that hard to win. It's hard as hell to win football games.

So when you run a football game, it's a celebration. When you lose yourself. Yeah, I mean, I remember years ago Brady going to Cleveland and getting hammered. I think Cleveland had like Peyton Hillis, that running back, and it was a really good New England team went to Cleveland. and just got destroyed. It happens. I mean, I always say this.

They led 10-0. Jordan Love had a bad pick. Well, wait, wait, hold on. They just showed it. Colin, that's an inexplicable pick on third down. Yeah, it's bad. What are you doing deep in your own end? Like, I mean, that's amateur hour stuff.

Then they get the ball back and you're like, okay, we got this. They're going to kick the field goal. And it gets blocked, which was like the theme of football yesterday. If you're going to, this could very well be a blip. And like, you can go back to almost. all great teams and they've had a horrible Sunday and it was I don't know if it's as we move into the fall and is the moisture in the air happening I don't know what it was but in the history of this league there has never been a special teams day like yesterday ever I mean it's just it was one of those

like I just I don't I have to drop them in the herd hierarchy I can't punish Green Bay that much because I this is the difference between pro and college football this is the difference where great teams last year the chiefs get to the Super Bowl, Raiders should have beaten them twice. I mean, that's just the way the league operates. So interestingly, a lot of good quarterbacks had under 200 yards passing yesterday. And I think there's like an epidemic happening with defenses have kind of started to solve. We're not giving you the big play. We're not giving you the bomb.

Nobody's getting it. Go ahead and matriculate down the field. We double dog dare you. And Jordan Love couldn't really do it. He wasn't good. Now his offensive line got banged up. Yes. They lost one guy on the first snap of the game.

He got, let me say, there were at least two times, maybe three, that Jordan Love, I mean, crumpled like a deck chair. Like, he got hammered multiple times. Josh Jacobs had like 30 yards on 15-k. He couldn't do anything. It was a bad day for the offense. Now, the good news is they get right against Dallas next week. Now, Colin, this line, we don't have it on the screen. The Packers are going to hammer them.

I'm sorry. 16-point favorite, 17-point favorite? No, no, no, no, no, no. crazy like that. That's the Bill's Saints game. But I just, I think they're going to get right next week. Let's not panic about the Packers. Next up, Colin, let's go to the New York Giants.

They played on Sunday night football. It was borderline unwatchable. Russell Wilson, I don't know what he was thinking. He was getting booed off the field. Two terrible interceptions. Dable did bring in DART, Jackson DART, the rookie for three plays. And then he yanked

him. And he would go right back to Ross, and the crowd was booing. Anyway, here's Dayball. after the game. I'd be going too, to be honest with you, in terms of not being good enough. Not scoring, not finishing. I understand that. That's the nature of it. We've got to be better.

Overall offensively, Connor, nothing was good enough. Coaching, playing. Didn't do a good enough job. Everybody. Here's the other thing. Daniel Jones is lighting the league up, having left the Giants and going to the Colts. Now, the Colts, I've been arguing this for, a year and a half, two years.

The Colts roster just needed a quarterback. They have excellent O-line, star running back, star tight end, three different receivers I like. So the Colts, that's why with Anthony Richardson, you're like, bro, I'm watching these games. They got good players. Chris Ballard's built a very good roster. Their offensive line is excellent. But that does. It makes the Giants look like they don't know what they're doing when the quarterback leaves you

and is now six of nine throwing the ball down the feet. Like big, big throws down field. Daniel Jones is playing, I am shocked by what I'm watching. The Giants host the Chargers in week four. Harbaugh, Herbert, Jesse Minter, really good defensive coordinator. He is going to confound Russ. I don't know if I want to toss Jackson dart out there. By the way, your guy, Andrew Thomas, take a guess.

Hurt again. I mean, the guy cannot stay healthy. We didn't even mention the Chiefs in this. Did you think the Chiefs look good, Colin? No, the Chiefs aren't good. The Chiefs are unwatchable. Just FYI to folks. Final story, Colin,

now this guy deserves a lot of flowers, and his name is Baker Mayfield. Because all he does is win games in the final seconds. Three straight victories with game-winning drives in the final seconds to win football games. This guy is clutch, man. I don't know what else to say about him. He beat my Jets.

Jets had a spear to comeback and did cover the spread, but Tampa is 3-0. And afterward, Baker said this one was a little personal. You know what it's like to go up against teams that you played for? How big was it for you guys to get the victory for him? I loved it. And it's also their de-coordinator was the one that cut me in Carolina. So it was a lot of stuff was personal today.

Son Reddick, former jet, a lot of people. You know, here's the thing about Baker. Is he almost plays better when the chips are against him. He gets amped up. But it's funny in that game because Tampa totally controlled the game. And then the Inept Jets, boom, boom. And you're like, what is, and I was sitting there watching, and I'm like, only on this day.

But we've said this about Baker Mayfield before. And he had a couple of really nice scrambles. We've said it about Baker before. When you allow him to plant a foot, dude throws one of the best balls in the league. And he is such a good fit in Tampa. I don't know. I mean, I think you said it last week, and I think you're right.

He has moved himself consistently into the top. top 10 quarterbacks in this league. He's a franchise quarterback. Well, that part's obvious. But I mean, eventually you find your way in this league. Sam Darnold, Carson Wenslow good. If you're a good guy, you work hard. You'll get more opportunities.

And Baker has totally taken advantage of it. Now, Mike Evans got a hamstring injury late in this game. I saw that. Did not finish the game. That would be bad news against the Eagles next week. And you know the Eagles historically have struggled against Todd Bowles. This is, it's a great game next week. Buck's Eagles. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. So, you know, people always say,

Colin, give my team credit. That's what Visa does or MasterCard. I'm not in the credit business. I've been saying this. I'm in the honesty business. Pittsburgh did not win yesterday. New England lost the game. New England was a better team. I mean, I went and looked after the game yesterday at the box score. I mean, New England had 30% more first downs, almost double the yards, dominated time of possession. I mean, the Steelers even had more penalties. It's the same team that went 0.15 down the stretch.

They can't run the ball. Protection's sketchy. Old quarterback doesn't move well. Expensive defense. That for some reason feels very. very vulnerable. And I said it last week. You're going to beat Jake Browning.

You're going to beat Joe Flacco. You're probably going to beat Drake May. New England gave the game away. Five turnovers. Dumb penalties. An awful interception right here. Just a terrible throw. So, you know, this is the same team, Pittsburgh, that went on a five-game skit at the end of last year.

I mean, they got five turnovers and all their possessions without that, and they scored three touchdowns. So New England's young. They make a lot of mistakes. They've got a lot of new personnel. They're not very good. But I can't give the Steedars credit on this because I'm here to be honest, and I don't think Pittsburgh very good. I thought they were totally outplay. And, I mean, again, everybody's going crazy because Aaron's breaking records, and he deserves credit,

because I've always thought he was better than Brett Farb, top to bottom anyway. But with quarterbacks in the NFL with at least 20 attempts, Aaron's dead last in air yards per completion. It is a dink-and-dunk offense that can't run the ball. And listen, you get credit in this league for winning games when you're playing terribly. And the Steelers are going to go, if you look at their schedule, who's coming up next? It's, you know, Flacco and it's Jake Browning. They're going to be five and one, and the fans are going to be going crazy.

But they have fewer offensive yards than Detroit. And the Lions don't play until tonight. They've only played two games. So, I mean, I looked at just the box score. If you would have not watched this game, you would have thought New England only won, that they blew them out. So, I mean, they forced five turnovers.

Mike Tomlin said I like that. That's why we spend as much time practicing down in that space as we do as a collective. We've got to be great on defense in the effort to win the point swing. We got to be great on offense. And when you take the ball away, man, you get all seven points. Usually you're fighting for four. It cannot be going the way you desire, but you better have enough emotion.

You better have enough belief. You better stay the course in an effort to do it. I feel like I've been watching the exact same Steeler team for five years. Quarterbacks pass their prime. They can't run. Pass protection is sketch. They're loose on the details. And they kind of figure out a way.

Defense isn't as good as what they pay for it. But they kind of figure out a way to beat the bad teams, and this league's got about 60% bad teams. And here's Mike Vrable on the turnovers that killed his young team. We don't need to learn a lesson. We just have to not give them so many chances with turnovers, take care of those things. And there's a lot to clean up.

A lot of good in there. But unfortunately, just not. enough to get us to win. I'll give Vrable credit. He's not necessarily barking at his players. He knows what he has. He can see all the mistakes, the youth. But I can't just say every team that one deserved to win.

Like there are weeks, I mean, Philadelphia trailed 26-7, but they dominate the second half, and they earned those block kicks. The Eagles earned that stop on fourth and one. The Eagles deserve to win that game. I mean, they dominate the second half. Tampa Bay, had they lost, well, it would have been their fault. I mean, Jets scored three quick touchdowns, boom, boom, boom. But in this instance, it was just a young team making mistakes with penalties and

turnovers. But, you know, they won in Pittsburgh. They're celebrating. I can't give you too many flowers on that. It is a very, that offense is a water pistol. There's just not a lot there. Aaron made a couple of nice throws. He and D.K. Metcalf have some symmetry.

it works, you deserve credit for that. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, top of hour number two, Matt Hasselbeck stops by. He's going to talk all about the Chicago Bears among other teams. Tonight, Ravens, Lions, we like Baltimore. Baltimore at home against an NFC team

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podcasts. Sunday on Fox, we got two of the NFC's early season best as Sequin and the defending champion Eagles take on Baker, Mayfield, and the Bucks, or the Jags battle Christian McCaffrey in the Niners or other regional action. Check local listings for the game in your area only on Fox. You know, as the Bears finally unleashed their offense, there are challenges this offense has, and here's the thing about the Bears' offense that's a little bit of a good problem to have. They may not quite be Green Bay in terms of running back, tight-end, wide receiver, youthful talent,

but they got a lot of it. Roma Dunzee, Luther Burden, Colston Loveland, Cole Comet, still young. like the Bears have a lot of offensive talent, eight youngest offense in the league, and that includes Caleb Williams. So, I mean, Colston Loveland's only got three catches in three games. I mean, Luther Burden is a twitchy burner.

He only have five catches in three games. He had three of them yesterday. So DeAndre Swift got loose yesterday. They're getting him the ball about 13, 14, 15 times a game. That's good. But DJ Moore, there's a touchdown, but he kind of disappeared. So their issue, I mean,

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So this thing is going. Now, it may just be against bad defenses. But when you watch Chicago play, they're not throwing to the same guy over and over. I mean, you watch the Chargers, it feels like on big downs, they're going to McConkey or Keenan Allen. You kind of know where it's going. You don't know where it's going with this team. So they got players. A lot of players on the offensive side.

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a quarterback that moves. They got wide receivers, young, veteran guys, they got players. So it's kind of the opposite with Kansas City. And because they were so dynamic offensively, for years, you forget that Kansas City has been winning despite their offense. In fact, Cam Scadaboo was the most entertaining offensive player on the field last night by a long shot. So there's no doubt that Kansas City's offense should get slightly better when Xavier worked. returns. And it should get slightly better when

Rishi Rice returns. But they played together last year for three or four games, and they weren't great then. So the Chiefs' offense feels a lot like an old pitcher that's lost about five miles an hour off his fastball. Three straight seasons where

the offense has regressed. Right now, the offense is below the New York Jets. I'm not joking. So I'm not going to get in it talking about the Giants. They're not worth the air time. But you've got to trust your eyes on this. you start looking at this offense, and here's my concern if I'm a Cheaps fan, because the time of possession for Kansas City's offense is 22nd. Well, that means your defense is on the field, and the longer your defense is on the field, the more your defense gets banged up.

So if they can get worthy and Rishi Rice back here collectively in the next three weeks, maybe they can improve and get their time of possession to 14th or 15th or 13th or 13th in the league from near the bottom because the more your defense is on the field, the more your defensive players are going to get banged up. The best thing going for the Chiefs right now is that Denver is finding ways to lose games. They have a chance to win. But for the last six or seven years, it's felt like the AFC had this trifecta at the top of Chiefs, Ravens, Bills. And right now it feels like Josh, Justin, and Lamar Jackson.

That's what it feels like. And it's struggling with Andy Reid, the great play designer of my life. Can you imagine what this offense looks like without my homes and Andy Reed? It is a water pistol with these guys. And they have one first half touchdown. Twenty-second in time of possession. And, I mean, they have halves and quarters. that are ugly.

You're seeing around the league, like some of the star receivers are getting held down. You've got to find number two options. Number three, this kid Thornton looks okay for Kansas City. Think about this. Kansas City has had eight red zone possessions this year. Mack Jones and the Niners have had 11. And that was a rock fight with Arizona. This is not bashing Kansas City.

Colin, they got the Ravens up next. Okay. Now, maybe the Ravens get caught napping tonight, and they're looking ahead to the Chiefs and want to kill them, you know, Because they've been destroyed by the Chiefs every postseason. That's why the line tonight is fairly reasonable. Who's betting the line? I don't see it.

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