The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - The Eagles hit a speed bump, Dak Prescott deserves more credit, Drake Maye looked great last night

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

Colin Cowherd breaks down the Philadelphia Eagles' shocking fourth-quarter meltdown against the Denver Broncos, handing the Eagles their first loss of the NFL season. He dives into the Eagles offensive struggles, poor execution in crunch time, and what it means for their Super Bowl hopes Dak Prescott continues to show how underappreciated he is this season after another great performance Drake Maye looks like a new man ever since hooking up with HC Mike VrabelSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It is a Monday. We're live in L.A. It's the herd wherever you may be, and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. You know, Jay Mack, you said something about five minutes ago as we were sitting here jotting some notes down. The bottom of the NFL is like the bottom of the NBA now. there are some bad teams. Two of them may be in New York.

It was not a good weekend for New York sports. Yankees, Giants, Jets, even Buffalo upstate. But we've been sitting waiting for Philadelphia because they keep winning, and we keep waiting for Philadelphia to lose. And finally, they met their match. Yeah. Hey, Denver Broncos, your guy, Bo Nix? Yep.

So in football and in life, drip, drip, drip. Like, people don't wake up and just decide, let's get. get a divorce. There were signs. Companies don't go from great quarterly earnings to we're bankrupt. There are signs, warning signs, red flags, arguments. Philadelphia has been a leaky faucet for five weeks. We've been talking about this. Sequin Barclay, his production has been cut in half. The lions have two running backs that are more productive than Sey Juan Barclay. They labor to get the ball to AJ Brown and the elite wide receiver. The offensive line used to be the best in the sport, middle of the pack. Doesn't even look close to Detroit's now. So when I've been preaching this

for three years, Nick Seriani is not a scheme guy. Okay, so he is very offensive coordinator dependent. All right? So when he has a great coordinator, he gets the Super Bowls. He hired Brian Johnson, didn't work, circle the drain. He missed on a coordinator. hired somebody in the building that had never called plays before. Could be a good coach. But right now at this moment in that coach's life, probably not the right fit with this veteran offense. And it just, it took a half. But Bo Nix, who's still a kid, Bo Nix has played what, 22 starts in the NFL?

He's going to have bad halves. He's going to have bad throws. But in that second half, Sean Payton, and this is what he does, maybe as good as any coach in this league. That second half, Sean Payton extracted every yard. out of that offense. Two point conversions on the road, noisy crowd, everybody involved, multiple receivers running the ball, another very good Denver draft. All these guys can play. And Bo Nix, that dude is athletic, and he is fast. He used to hold the ball a little long last

year. Bo Nix is seeing it and let it rip. So the better team, the better coach, and yes, the better quarterback. By the second half of that game, we're on display. and this is nothing against Nick Seriani, but he's got a stacked roster, and don't even try to convince me, 45 yards rushing, the big plays are gone. They were a good big play team. They're done. They're 17th in the NFL in big plays. With A.J. Brown, Devonte Smith, Sequin Barclay, Jalen Hertz, they're middle of the pack on big plays. Yards per play has tanked. Saquan Barclay's getting touched, a yard into the carry, not two and a half. So this, This is not on the players.

The players were great last year. What did they do? All eat Twinkies in the off season? Give me a break. It's a coordinator hire. And that's okay. A lot of coaches in this league are not Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan Thursday night goes out with backups everywhere.

And out coaches Sean McVeigh. He's a scheme guy. Coordinators much less relevant to Kyle Shanahan. And it's not a knock on Siriani, but that's not what he is. And so if he makes the wrong OC hire, this is not. this is not the same team. It's not the players. It's not the effort. It's not the toughness. Coaching matters. We've seen this more and more. Coordinating matters in this league. Second half of that game, Sean Peyton put on a clinic.

Bo Nix with 22 starts against Vic Fangio, one of the best defensive coordinators in the sport. Clinic up and down those last two drives. And here's Sariani after. I think that the guys have worked extremely hard in preparation. I see the same hunger that is that was there prior to us winning the Super Bowl. So I don't think it's anything like that. Again, just the name of this game is always going to come down to detail. And as far as us as coaches and players, we weren't detailed enough today, and they were a little more detailed than us.

Okay, usually my second story on a Monday isn't about a blowout. But when Dak Prescott broke into this league, Zeke was a great running back. The O-line, Tyron Smith, Zach Martin, it was the best O-line in a decade in the NFL. Dak got a lot of credit and didn't have to do

a lot of heavy lifting. He had to babysit Des Bryant. That was about it. But he was a little overrated. Now, Dak, this DAC is not getting enough credit. They don't have a number one receiver currently. The offensive line is still in a rebuild mode. Running game, okay. Staff, fine.

Defense. Last. in the league. Dak Prescott, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield. It's like they've hit the 10,000 hour rule. Like they're just, I mean, they're all smart guys, but they have reached another level of football IQ. And Dak's gone from a little overrated to now underappreciated. If I had an MVP vote today, I would vote probably Baker Mayfield 1 and DAC 2.

I would give Baker it because he's won more games and he's won them late, but also Baker Mayfield has. the better general manager, the better rookie receiver. I think the overall roster in Tampa is much better than the Cowboys roster. But this, right now what you're seeing Dak Prescott do, this is the best stack I've ever seen. First of all, I think he's lost weight and gained strength. They're missing three offensive linemen.

C.D. Lam's a top five receiver. Doesn't have him. Running backs, kind of by committee. Okay, not special. And listen, Brian Schottenheimer deserves a lot of credit. We don't think he's Andy Reader, Sean Payton. So again, I'm looking at MVP right now. And here's the other thing to remember about DAC, where he deserves a lot of credit.

Everybody said when Des Bryant left, he was in trouble. Nope. When Zeke left, he's in trouble. Tyron Smith left. Micah left. The great Zach Martin. All these great players have left. And every time, as long as Dak Prescott is upright, the Cowboys win double-digit games.

I mean, let's be honest. Sometimes it takes a long time. You've got to read to the end of the book. Yeah, you ever read a mystery or a murder mystery, and you kind of figure it out by the fourth or fifth chapter? And then the really great books, like all of a sudden you're like in chapter 10, 12. Dak, you got to peel this onion. You got to peel this.

There was a little overhyped, DAC with a great old line in a great run game. And Jerry Jones at the time felt, you know, not quite as meddling. And then all of a sudden it's Mike McCarthy and Dax's actually putting up better numbers. And now McCarthy leaves Brian Chattanoimer, who nobody loved. C.D. Lamb has hurt.

Mike has gone. It is a lot of C-plus players, and they're still rebuilding this offensive line, and Dack looks unbelievable. He was getting MVP chance in New York, and he was asked about it after. I mean, my ears work. So I heard it, but I didn't hear it to your answer.

It's week five. I don't care. I don't care if it was week 17. I've told you all what I want to win, the team goals. Right now, the success and the continued success is going to happen. It's just a beneficiary of all the guys in that locker room. Again, OAS says the right thing. He is a dropped pass against Philadelphia from being three one-on-one.

Don't pay attention to the 2-2-1. He is playing next level. Remember, they tied Green Bay. And, I mean, the way Green Bay was running the clock late in that game, could have won it. They had Philadelphia beat. C.D. Lammett is worst game as a pro. Three drops, one. I mean, right in the bread basket.

So you can't, sometimes the record doesn't belie the truth. Dax's playing out of his mind. So is Baker. So is Darnold. It's these old guys. They got the 10,000 hours. but I think I would vote Baker-Mayfield MVP at the league today. I think I would have right now DAC runner-up from a little over-hyped to is everybody paying attention to what's happening here?

Coaching staff, ownership, O-line. I mean, find me a guy in the league that's working with a bunch of mid that's putting up those numbers. Well, it's the Jets. Well, the Jets look pretty good against the Steelers. The Jets didn't look that bad last week. whatever's happening Dak goes on the road It's one of my favorite picks of the week

I mean that thing was what was that thing 23 at 3 at half 30 to 3 at 1 point and Dak's putting on a clinic that is amazing so J. Mack who did you went 5 and 1 in your picks I had a winning week as well so we know

taking over a less talented team and rebuilding it it's hard yeah to Aaron Glenn's great example but it's not that hard just like anything in life taking over a building a business i mean uh you know for a therapist fixing a rocky marriage it's hard but it's not that hard competent people can do it how about new england how about what mike vrable's doing and drake may's doing

drake may looks amazing incredible fourth quarter last year jets had more high-end players when aaron glenn took him over than new england had i don't and a more experienced quarterback in Justin Fields. So again, same division. I'm not saying it isn't hard, but you're seeing a gap between Mike Frable and Aaron Glenn

in a month. It's not even close. So we'll talk about that. It's easy to beat up on Buffalo. I don't think last night was about the Buffalo Bills at all. I think everybody in this sport has a stinker. They fumbled it. It was ball security was a mess. We'll talk about what's happening in New England. as well as Baker and Sam

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It was just one of those games. They couldn't hold on to the football. They didn't play particularly well. And Buffalo's fine. Is Buffalo great? I don't know. But Buffalo just didn't play well. And you have games like this.

The Chiefs in their dynasty, the Patriots in their dynasty, had games like this. This game was about the country. culture that Mike Vrabel is built and about Drake May now with a legitimate head coach quickly becoming a franchise star. This one we called. I said basically Vrable and I picked him to make the playoffs despite being bad last year. Vrable is the opposite of Mike McDaniel in Miami. He is all function and no flash. His brand, his scheme is toughness. He's a 260 pound pair of work boots.

And that is what Vrabel's all about. He's your classic CEO. Brand creator, culture builder, all about resilience, all about toughness, NFL coaching and a lot of business is masonry, laying bricks every day. And that's what Vrable does. He still gives Brady and Belichick crap. He does not, you know, he doesn't, he honors men. he worships none.

He's one of the smartest coaches in the league. By the way, Belichick, you're seeing it in college. Belichick doesn't know college personnel. He can't recruit it in college. He couldn't draft it in the NFL. He can't. And so Vrabel didn't get anything. The last five drafts before Vrable got there were nonsense.

Crap. So he had to get a GM and spend $300 million bucks to just get an NFL roster. but I look at it. He also hiring Josh McDaniel. Again, not everybody is built to be a head coach. Some guys are brilliant vice presidents. Josh McDaniel created Brady. Brady in the early years, Charlie Weiss, Josh McDaniel, Brady was always willing to be coached.

Same with Drake May. We said when Drake May came out of college, he's Justin Herbert. He just is not quite polished enough. So it was speed dating, speed him up quickly because Gerard Mail was not it. Again, a guy that's more coordinator. But between Josh McDaniels, the culture, Vrable, the intelligence, this team's a playoff team. They check all the boxes a playoff team does. Toughness, resilient, can win on the road, excellent young quarterback.

They've spent their money in the right places. And if Stefan Diggs can stay healthy, you're not going to get a lot of over-the-top throws in the playoffs in the AFC. You're not. The weather is going to be lousy. But for the record, the Titans are 4 and 18 since Mike Vrable left. That's one of the things we always talk about. It's not just what you do when you arrive. What happens to the company? You left. With Harbaugh, they go into the tank. With Vrable, the Titans are a laughing stock. Despite yesterday's goofy win, they're a laughing stock. The worst team in the league. So, I mean, this is not not a small win. This is a defining moment for Vrable. I think they're actually, I don't know if

Mike Vrable looked at the schedule before the season and looked at this game and thought it was that winnable. I think they're getting better really fast. If you go look at Drake May's second half stats the last three weeks, last four weeks, I mean, they gave that game away against Pittsburgh, and he's a young quarterback. I mean, Drake may had a terrible red zone pick against Pittsburgh. He's a young quarterback. He's a kid. He's got 20 starts. Bo Nicks says like 22 stars. But it's not about the bad throws. It's about can you make the big boy throws? And Drake May last night made about four of them.

And it's like, oh, okay, this is big boy football. That's C.J. Stroud. That first year, he wasn't great every Sunday. But he'd get protection when he did. He'd make throws. And you're like, yeah, there's like six guys in the world that can make that throw. So what a win for New England. This is what a playoff team looks like.

I'm not sure if it's a high-level playoff team. But, I mean, Burroughs out. Ravens are nonsense. they just beat Buffalo. Maybe they are. Here's Vrable after. I'm really proud of the whole team for being able to come into this road environment. We talk about a lot of other people that had cracks of beating them here for 14 games.

They had their opportunity. And we and those players took advantage of that opportunity and beat a really good football team that hasn't lost here much. Yeah, that was impressive. and by the way, here's the other thing I love. You ever seen that thing Vrable does? After the game, he greets every single player. Vrable is about the players. Belichick in the end was about Belichick.

Right? Belichick became about Belichick. And Vrabel's always been about the guys. It's very rare when you get somebody that's great at their job and doesn't really have an ego. And I'm telling you, I thought they'd be a wild card playoff team. I think they're ahead of schedule. I did not expect them.

I said this week I took them to cover. I said I'd take them to cover. It's a division rivalry game. I didn't think I don't win that thing. Buffalo does not lose at home. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. If you want to buy low stock, Patriots, here's who they have next. At Spencer Rattler, verse Cam Ward, verse Dylan Gabriel, Michael Pennix. There's still Jets and Giants on the schedule. This could be an 11-win team, Colin. Jake Browning is coming up. Look at it. Look at this.

They're going to win like eight or nine games before December. So do you realize this is going to be my fifth straight? Oh, gosh. What? I bring that up. Another hit for Coward. No, no, no. My favorite bet every year is the what team will double their win total team.

You take a crappy team. And again, my take was, Jets and the Dolphins are not trending up. They're going to get four wins there. I didn't think they beat Buffalo, but if you start looking at that schedule, I mean, it's just, I didn't think Tampa would be this good. Their toughest game in the next seven weeks is at Baker Mayfield. That's it.

These guys, that's a good call by you. All right, let's get to a not-so-good call, the Baltimore Ravens. Oh, my gosh, Colin. This team is bad. Down bad right now, as the kids like to say. They lose 44-10 to the Texans at home. The Ravens defense is on pace to give up 602 points, which would be the worst of all time.

There's a stat floating around. They've given up 177 points through five gains. That Ray Lewis-Edd-Reed defense from 2000, that historically great, gave up 165 for the season. Here's John Harbaugh talking about how bad things are right now. Just complete disappointment. And we're going to have to find a way to turn it around, figure out who we are this next week, and then end of the buy and after the buy. We're going to have more than half the season left, and we're going to have to find ourselves.

So that's what our aim will be going forward. So they were down Roquan Smith, their middle linebacker. Marlon Humphrey, who's their best corner, but he's not even playing good. Kyle Hamilton, who's their chess piece on defense, they're not winning any games without those guys. The backups were like kind of undrafted dudes off the street getting cooked. That's what happens when you pay guys. When you're paying Kyle or Roquan Smith is your backups aren't as good. So there are very few rosters that have a ton of depth.

There just aren't many in the NFL anymore. So because you, that's why you have to, and you and I have discussed this a lot, you have to really be careful in the NFL who you pay. You've got to be very careful because all you have to do is pay one guy too much and all of a sudden a linebacker in a corner go down and you have like, you have CFL players. But I mean, they pay their stars. Ronnie Stanley, Lamar Jackson, they pay their stars.

Well, all it takes is three injuries. I mean, go look at the Chargers right now. Without their offensive tackles. It's just, it's not a functional offense. By the way, Ronnie Stanley also missed the game. I don't know, I don't want to get in this. Should they fire John Harba? There's just too many injuries.

It's not like this is that. Here's the problem. They got the Rams on deck. Oh, they're going to lose, yeah. Rams are off extra time. If some of these guys don't come back, I don't think they win. Now, the good news is if we could get the Raven schedule on the screen, after the buy, their schedule is a cakewalk.

Oh, and also they'll get healthier. They'll get healthy. guess is they reel off six or seven wins post Thanksgiving and they make it an eight and nine or a nine and eight season. I don't think it's a playoff team. I think I think teams like Denver, here comes Kansas City, here's Denver. The Colts are absolutely the real deal. If Jacksonville wins tonight, New England's the real deal. Listen, we're having a little changing of the guard here. Burroughs hurt again. Ravens are a mess and all of a sudden, oh, New England looks good. Oh, wait a minute. The Colts are totally legit.

Listen, if you want a decent bet, tell me if you'd be, look at that schedule, right? So you get the bears after the by, they should beat the bears with Lamar and everybody. They're going to beat the dolphins. They should beat J.J. McCarthy. They're going to win eight or nine games. Well, here's the thing.

Can they still win the division? Do you trust Aaron Rogers in Pittsburgh to get separation? I actually, the way Aaron's playing, I do. Listen, we thought this could be the best division in football. It's arguably the worst with Burrow out and with Lamar out. So it happens. They still got the Steelers. twice. That's interesting. Now, let's, sorry

to go to another bad team, but the Raiders and Pete Carroll, oh my gosh, they get destroyed by the Colch yesterday. 40 to 6, it's bordering on embarrassing. Gino Smith is just at rock bottom right now. I think this is more about the Colts. Colts are good, yeah, but 40 to

six, and some of these decisions by Gino, he looks lost in the pocket. Now, he didn't have Bowers, which hurts. And he doesn't have his best left tackle, so it's not a functional offense. I think the Colts, I think the Colts, Colts are good. I think they're absolutely for real.

I think it's a top three offensive line. I like their weapons. They've been very lucky. Ballard in the first round has had great players fall to him. This roster has like, yeah, I always said this. To be a Super Bowl team, you've got to have about seven elite players somewhere close to their prime. I almost think, I don't think the tight ends close to his prime yet. Oh, Tyler Warren is everywhere, man.

He's throwing passes. He's running the football. I mean, he's. No, but when you watch the Colts. They gave that game away against the Rams. They gave that thing away. This Colts team's going to win this division. Because I think Kansas City beats Jacksonville tonight.

This is not about the Raiders being awful. It's Pete's first year. This is about a GM who has built a really good roster, and they've been sitting there since the late Jim Ursafe forced wins to leave. They've been bailing water at quarterback. Well, Daniel Jones may not be an A, but with Stuyken, he's pretty damn good. It is interesting. The Colts went and got Daniel Jones.

Pete Carroll wanted Gino's specifically. Here's Pete Carroll after the loss. I'm processing it poorly. I'm going to tell you the truth, because I did expect it to win right out of the shoots. They out executed us in the throwing and catching part of it, and we weren't able to get off the field, and that's why they sustain their drives. Yeah. I don't see a lot of upside with this team.

Colin, we're going to round out the herd line here. It was another negative story, and that's Bill Belichick. And North Carolina football, I don't know if you watch this Saturday. It was a crowded sports day. First play of the game. Didn't Clemson go to the tricks? There it is. Yeah.

I mean, and, you know, look at North Carolina, five yards trailing here. It was bad. 38 to 10 beat down was never close. I'm pretty sure this was 353 for a while. Meanwhile, Clemson's not even good. Bill Belichick, his team has scored a touchdown

on four of 29 drives against Power 5 conferences. That's not good. Here's Belichick after the L. We just got to do a better job of coaching. I had a better job of playing. and just eliminate the mistakes that are fixable. I mean, there's honestly not that many things that we can't get right,

but we've got to do a better job of it. We can't get a place like that defensively at the beginning of the game, obviously. It just tilts the score. You know, it's too much. So get back to work here tomorrow. And, you know, I think I expect the players to rebound like they did last week and have another good week here.

You know, I watch some of this game, and I just go back to the last six drafts in New England, Bill controlled it and could not draft. And clearly doesn't have a great eye for college personnel because they just don't have any good players. It's just, I mean, defensively, Cade Clubnick had struggled all year. It was pitch and catch.

I don't know what his numbers were. Was he, like 24 of 26? I mean, it was like practice. So I think. college football to some degree as a young man's game, but if you are middle-aged or older like Saban, you have to have great energy. Well, Mack Brown before him. Again, very good personality, very good energy, very good recruiter. So is Saban. Bill's not an engaging personality. And he and Mike Lombardi, they're Sunday guys. They're not Saturday guys. So I don't think they have a feel for

it yet. That doesn't mean they couldn't turn it around. Next year, maybe. But I... This feels like Arch Manning. Hey, this was an exciting off-season story. Everybody was pumped. and no. It's just a big rejection. The transfer portal seduces a lot of coaches. You think you can solve a lot of your problems? You can't bring 50 new guys to a football team and build a culture. That's what I worried about.

Remember I said this about New England when Mike Brable came in? I said they spent so much money to get the NFL roster of the Patriots just up to like NFL standards. Remember how bad they were in the first couple weeks? And I said, you've got to give me a break. New England's playing too many new people. well then it took a week three, week four, week five. Everybody was banging on New England.

Well, think about this. You're doing that with college guys. So Belichick's got 50 new guys. You just can't do that. Lincoln Riley still can't get his defense right. When you live and breathe with a transfer portal in college, you can't build a culture. You can build an offense if you get a great quarterback

or you can have some explosive plays, but they just don't have enough good players and none of these guys have played together before. Jay Mack with a news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. So it's one of these things in life that's never fair.

You know, they always say when men and women meet, men take eight seconds, women take eight minutes. But they decide, first date, yeah, I'm going to hook up. This personal work. And first impressions in pro sports are rough. Sam Darnold's 21. He goes to the completely dysfunctional New York Jets. And then Baker Mayfield goes to completely. functional Cleveland. Now, Baker was much better than Sam, but it does get embedded in your mind

and you kind of hold it against Sam. Well, he's having another decent year. Or you look at Baker and you're like, oh, it'll implode. He's cocky. If you'd never watch Donald in New York and you'd never watch Baker in Cleveland and you just watched that game yesterday, you would think you had Brady Manning. Those guys were unbelievable. Mayfield goes 29 of 33, 380 yards. Donald goes 28 to 34. They both have a passer rating at 135. It's one of the best

offensive quarterback games I've ever seen in my life. And Baker's missing Mike Evans. He's missing Bucky Irving. Seattle's defense was a little banged up. I mean, it's the NFL. You're not going to be healthy. Baker was unbelievable. I'd give him my MVP today.

This is the best Baker's ever played. That Seattle defense is, it was banged up, but it's a good defense. That's a tough place to play. But again, Brady and Manning played over 15 times. We went and looked it up this morning. They never had a matchup with this kind of offensive productivity.

If you didn't get this game in your local market and you got stuck with the Cardinals and the Titans, the NFL owes you an apology, that is one of the best quarterback games I've ever seen in my life. The game had nine touchdowns and 10 incompletions. And Baker was amazing. Sam's a little more athletic. Baker probably better just throwing strikes from the pocket. And what I watched was two great quarterbacks, two great GMs slash rosters, two very competent head coaches. And I mean, Baker was not playing with a fully healthy team.

And Seattle wasn't playing with a fully healthy defense. But, you know, it's funny, both these guys obviously take the coaching. Because Sam Darnold's biggest issue was really reckless. and accuracy issues. And he had a slow wind-up. Darnold gets rid of that ball fast, and he's really accurate. So four straight years, Darnold's accuracy has improved.

The other thing is they both have a great young wide receiver that is growing with them. So they didn't inherit a lot of egos. They went to good coaches, defensive coaches, who let them be their own personality. But here was Baker after a scintillating win. We're built different. It's just the way the locker room's wired, the way they built this roster, and I love it.

It's a group that plays with an edge, and I always say we're always in the fight, but I love this team, and I love the way they fight. And both Baker and Sam can have their reckless moments, but we looked it up. Manning and Brady played 17 times. They never had a single game. We're both through for over 300. or they neither ever played together and both teams scored over 35 points. So that shootout was rare. But again, if you go back to your first impressions,

Darnold's 21, he goes to New York, the Jets are the Jets, they could make anybody look bad. Think about how many people in this league today are flourishing that are former jets. The coach of the bucks, Todd Bowles, the quarterback for the Seahawks, Sam Darnold, Devonte Adams. I mean, it's remarkable how many,

former jets. But again, when you're 20, 21, 22, 23, and you walk into a dysfunctional business, you're not established. It'd be one thing if you're 37, Donald and Baker now could go to a dysfunctional team, right? And they'd have the buy-in from players. But if these two teams, Seattle and Tampa met in the NFC championship, I would not be shocked. That's what I watched. And these teams weren't healthy. Playmakers, quarterbacks, coaching. Speed. That's one of the best games I've ever seen, honestly. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a...

We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential.

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Keep your eye on the Mariners. So I have this theory that everything now because of TikTok and Instagram is performative. Nobody can just have lunch or a conversation with a friend and you can't go out or you've got to take pictures of your food. And you've got to show where you're at. People can't just live. And I think this trend among young people,

this need to constantly be performing and be cool. And I believe this is happening in the NFL because I've now seen it like three, four times, and it's disturbing. Yesterday, Arizona running back, Amari DiMarcato, breaks free. Man, this is the bad trend. trying to be cool, drops the ball at the go line. This would have sealed the win.

They would have gone up 28 to 6. It would have sealed the win. Every yard counts in the NFL. Every play counts in the NFL. Do you know how hard your teammates work? How hard it is to be an offensive lineman to create that whole, how hard football practice is. I mean, that's literally like showing up late to work the week.

Your company's having layoffs. Hello, self-awareness. By the way, last week, Indianaapolis wide receiver, another showboater, A.D. Mitchell does the exact same thing. This could have sealed the game for the Colts, and this guy never scored a touchdown in the NFL, still has it. What in God's name are you thinking? Stop showboating. Get into the end zone. By the way, this week he played six snaps. Thankfully, I'd cut him. I'd have no problem cutting guys that do this. People are losing jobs in the NFL because of this.

Coaches, coordinators, teammates. You know how hard it is to score in a long touchdown run in the NFL? There are very few of them. Philadelphia now can't run the football. They got pro bowlers everywhere. It's hard. It's so selfish and so disrespectful. The Jets had a guy that did this last year.

Malachi Corley, shocking. He's never scored a touchdown. Most of the great players get it. But you have to be so self-absorbed. lacking in total self-awareness. I mean, the Arizona was missing two starters at running back. Bro, it's your moment. It is your moment.

Remember this last year with the Jets? A guy that's never scored a touchdown. Performative, trying to be cool. I mean, this is the NFL. Go look at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this year. Every single play matters. I mean, to do that to your teammates, I mean, baseball practice as a kid was fun.

Basketball practice is a good sweat. Soccer practice. Football practice, it's often in bad weather, pads, it's cold, it's hard, you're getting hit. Football practice is hard. You're going to be that selfish of a human being, that's selfish of a teammate to all your brothers who work so hard. You know how rarely you get a 50-yard touchdown run in the NFL?

This thing was going to be a 70-yard touchdown run. Those just don't happen. The good teams don't get those. The bad teams never get them. all that work and you're going performative. Don't tell me it couldn't see the line. Not that hard to figure out.

Here was the coach after. As a coach, what do you say to him? It's never about one play. We have coaching points that I'm not going to tell you guys now. Is this the worst that you felt after a loss here? I don't know that. What do you think, Bob?

We've had some bad ones. Yeah, on the sideline, that coach was furious. I don't blame him. I mean, that coach was absolutely, I'm surprised so many players were consoling him. That is an L. I mean, it is, man, you've got to be a selfish co-worker. You've really got to be selfish to do that. A.D. Mitchell, bro, you've never been in the end zone.

The Colts were a good team. You're on the road. You're facing the Rams. Daniel Jones is playing his butt off. Your offensive lines giving great production. and you're trying to perform. I swear to God, I think this is TikTok and Instagram, and nobody can just have lunch.

Nobody can just have lunch without taking a picture of it. Can we just live a little bit and not have to constantly show off? Speaking to show off, Bo Nix got to in the fourth quarter. Fourth quarter against the Eagles on the road, Bo Nix was 9 of 10, 3 of 3 on scoring drives, 101 on 2-point conversion. A lot of you guys are rooting against Bo Nix. it's going to work.

I mean, he's going against Vic Fangio's defense in that roster. He's really been able to speed up his delivery. He held on to the ball last year too long. He plays super fast right now. He is, and he's also really athletic. I'd make an argument you could run him more. He is really athletic. And here's the thing that you see.

I say this all the time. Watch a game and watch the play. play calling. A coach will tell you what they think about a player by the plays they call. Okay, there's no handholding here. Right now, Bo Nix leads the NFL in past attempts. Yep, more than any other quarterback. That is trust. There's no handholding going on in Denver. So, and the other thing, one of the great things about Brady is Brady didn't take sacks. Brady had no problem, thrown it away, dirtying it, getting rid of it.

Bow Nix doesn't get sacked. And they've faced some real defenses. He's been sacked five times all year. Now, you know how last year we said a lot of times Caleb Williams was getting sacked, and it wasn't always the offensive lines fault? Matt Hasselbeck said that. A lot of people said that.

Well, he's only sacked five times. That's not all the offensive line getting credit. He gets rid of it fast. And again, he's only played 22 games. so it's he's going to have Drake may had a horrible interception against the Steelers bad plays are going to happen but when I watch him and his ability to get rid of the ball get first downs with his legs I mean intellectually physically that balls out here's Sean Payton after the road win and the decision to go for two we felt

situationally with time left on the clock you know we came here to win a game and I had two or three calls that I loved. And the guys executed. It was perfect. But we felt, I think there was seven, seven and a half minutes. Let's do that. Let's keep being aggressive. And by the way, the play was designed perfectly.

It's interesting about going for two. Because a lot of times, I think coaches tend to be math professors before they need to. They start playing to the numbers. That was one of the rare instances. I'm like, listen, Philly doesn't lose. They haven't lost since when. December or something last year, you're on the road on Philly. When you're on the road, you go for it.

If you're on the road and you're an underdog, that's a go-for-it moment. If you're at home and a heavy favorite, you may just think, listen, we want to get to overtime. We've got the better players. We're at home. Our players are comfortable. Let's get to overtime. better roster. But if you believe we're on the road, we're an underdog, we were getting shelled at half. We have all the momentum I like the call. And again, I think it's situational.

I don't think that's an always-do it. But again, you have momentum. Bonix is hot. The Eagles are a little backpedaling. You're on the road. You're an underdog, by the way. Kansas City Just be, you've got to think about all this stuff. Kansas City faces Jacksonville tonight. Kansas City just crushed Baltimore. Here comes Kansas City. My take is we're not going to play it safe against the Chiefs. We're not going to play it safe against the top teams in the NFL. Let's go for it.

So that was the rare instance. Usually I'd be like, dude, just tie it up. Don't be a math professor. I don't know Jay Mack how you feel. But that was one of those like, dude, when you get Philadelphia a chance to step on the neck a little bit, I think you go for it. Yeah, I totally agree. Because Philly has this weird thing.

They don't, you know, play to the whistle. Remember, they had Tampa down 24-6 and just stopped playing. Up 17, 3 and the 4th, kind of stopped playing. Let me ask you, on the Eagles, Colin. We know they're good. They were number one in her hierarchy. So, because CD-Lamp drops passes, they beat them. Travis Kelsey bobbles the intersection.

There is no great team in this league. That's the thing. I don't know how good Philly is. There are great units. There are teams that have great games. There are no great teams in this league. There are awful teams. Two of them may be in New York,

but there are no great teams in the NFL. Colin Wright. calling wrong hour two first one flew by it's the hurt hey guys it's us the Jonas brothers I'm Joe I'm Kevin and I'm Nick and guess what we created our own podcast called hey Jonas we invented a podcast well we didn't invent it we just contributed to it first people to do podcasts we get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions well sick and tired is

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stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades.

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