The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - The magic of Mike Vrabel, what's at stake for Sam Darnold, Aidan Hutchinson

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

Colin identifies the unique trait Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel has that allowed them go from 4-13 to the Super Bowl in just one season He talks about what is at stake if the Sam Darnold and the Seahawks lose this SundaySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So we had Christian McCaffrey, and I've said before, it's in my lifetime. Walter Payton's probably the best running back I've ever seen. Barry Sanders is closed. I'd say Christian McCaffrey in terms of the ability to do everything, not fumble, catch a pass, make a block, make a run, make people miss, outrun people. He was on our show yesterday, but it was at the very end of our show.

and he played a couple different times with Sam Darnold, once in San Francisco and once in Carolina, so he knows Sam very well. And he dropped this little gem about slinging Sammy D. When I first met him in Carolina, from the jump, I was like, this guy's a dude. And the more and more you see him at practice, you see the throws you make, you understand why he's a top pick in the draft. And then you're around them more. you're like, this is one of the best players I've been around, period.

And it's because of how talented his arm is, he's way more athletic than people give him credit for. Yeah, he's one of the most talented players I've ever seen. And that's a guy that plays with George Kittle and Trent Williams, the Debo Samuels. I mean, like, you know, Fred Warner, Abosa, he's one of the most talented players I've ever played with. All those Carolina teams, they had good players too.

So the fan's opinion on Darnold is so different than the player's opinion on Darnold and the coach's opinion on Darnold. I mean, if Sam throws an ugly pick in the Super Bowl, fans will be like, told you, can't play. When this guy was at the depths of his career, players were always like, he's a dude. And by the way, players and coaches gossip like the rest of us. and people inside the game know how good he is. And I think one of the reasons is is because first impressions die slowly. And there's a reason our parents, I hope your parents did this,

my parents, my dad did this a lot, where, you know, look people in the eye, tuck your shirt in, firm handshake, first impressions matter. Man, never had better advice. I had a college professor named Howard Hopp at Eastern Washington University. he was a very funny guy

small guy projected wore like a interesting hat and the reason when you had a class project he would make you come up and present it like a business person and I can remember him shouting at me cowhud sit out

I wouldn't buy triscats from you stadova and it was like first impressions matter people feed off your energy or your negativity and Sam's never been a victim

He's got great energy. He's a great guy. And that was through the hard times. So, you know, but those first images in New York, I'm seeing ghosts on a nationally televised game. But players always knew how bad the Jets were. So I think that stuff just gets embedded in our brain, your first impressions. And I'll give you a basketball example. Chris Weber, when Chris Weber came into basketball, as a college player, I'd never seen a guy that big with that good of

hands and that good of feet. I thought he had the best hands and feet I'd ever seen from a big. Pre-Lebron. I just, like, he had the feet of a guard and the hands of a catch-and-shoot two guard. But because he called a timeout in the national championship, that gets embedded in your brain. C-Web is a NBA Hall of Famer. It's a five-time all-pro in his prime.

25 a game. Tough defender, great rebounder, unbelievable touch for a big guy. is a great Hall of Fame level basketball player. But you say C-Web and you think that time out, that image, one second is all that play lasted. One second.

Scott Norwood made a lot more kicks than the one he missed in the Super Bowl. But that stuff gets embedded with people. And when I look, I've said that I've used this stat before, is that if you go after the Jets, he went to Carolina

and he got bench for the first time in his career. Then November 27th, Sam Darnold started again. From that day to today, Carolina Niners, Minnesota, Seattle, highest percentage of 100-plus passerating games, winningest quarterback in the league. The dude is a baller, and the players and the coaches know it,

and if he loses the Super Bowl, players and coaches will not bail on Sam. Tom Brady lost multiple Super Bowls, one to Nick Foles, but fans will immediately bail on him. He's just seen differently from one group to the next. Okay, so I saw this headline, and I really love this headline,

because you know I like Mike Frable. And you know I love Max Crosby. Max Crosby of the Raiders reportedly wants to play. Where does he want to play? This team, that team, the best team, the AFC, the FC. Max Crosby wants to play for Mike Vrable.

And running backs and quarterbacks want to play with Kyle Shanahan. Matt Stafford took less to play with Sean McVeigh. You see Vrable in the tunnel with players, emotionally hugging them. And he's not just doing that to the stars. He's doing that to gunners on special teams and long snappers. That image is so incredibly powerful throughout the league. And there are only five or six head coaches. That's about it in this league that have a brand.

That doesn't mean there's only five or six great coaches, but that have a brand. Shanahan schemes. Andy Reed, creativity. McVeigh, Energy, Innovation, Harbaugh Physicality. And the two words I would use with Mike Vrable, Tough Love. nobody is going to be harder on you and love you more than dad and mike brable and Vrable's brand is virtually impossible to duplicate because of his size and physicality apparently he intimidated people in tennessee like he was intimidating and there were reports

that when he was interviewing for jobs you know people remarked about his sheer size and and presence in the room. And so it worked against him. I can't imagine it would, but those were the stories. So you can't really duplicate him. And the other thing is there's two things in the league you cannot fake. And I would say among pro athletes, you can't fake a tough guy. Those who know, no.

You can't fake being a tough guy. You also can't fake that you really. really deeply care about your players. Players can smell fake tough guys. They can sniff out the guy who says he loves you, but doesn't. So Vrable, to me, is a very unique coach. Chris Long, and he's such a good fit in New England. Chris Long yesterday on their show talked about that.

Mike Vrable is who he is. What you see is what you get. Players appreciate that. And we also appreciate being told the truth. That's one thing I was appreciate about Belichick was, you know, like I had coaches that would walk a mile around confrontation and telling you the truth and telling you if what you were doing wasn't cutting it or what we were doing as a team. Something needed to change. Hiring Mike Vrable is going to turn out to be one of the best decisions a team has made this decade. And by the way, Sean Payton has some of this.

Vrable and Sean Pate, they'll bark at you. they allow you to bark back and they don't hold grudges. I mean, nothing pettier than holding grudges. Sean Peyton barks at Bo Nicks. Bow Knicks barks back. Sean barks back. Bo barks back again and they don't hold grudges. He loves him.

And Vrable has that quality. And even among coaches, you'd think that was universal. It's not. There's pettiness in every industry. And Vrable just doesn't have that. So Warriors finally made a trade. Boy, what a big nothing burger that was. The Jonathan Cumminga era ends with a whimper.

Like a real whimper. I've got some thoughts on that. For the record, so all the money is coming in on Seattle. J. Mack, you have always been a bit of a contrarian. So I said from the very beginning, this number, if you got Seattle at three and a half, I'm much more comfortable. Now it's four and a half. I think bookies are having a hard time not pushing it to five.

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By the way, Shams indicating the bucks have indicated they are keeping Janus. They will work on other trades. and my takeaway is what we said all week is that what is the value of Janus. He's still hurt. He'll be out until like March. He's 31, several injuries. He's not a perimeter player. He has to have the ball in his hands.

I think he could screw the New York Knicks up because Jalen Brunson needs the ball to be effective. He's not as good off ball. Well, Janus off ball, he can't shoot, right? So like, he's a great defensive player. That would help a lot of teams. But you have to have an entom. entire camp with him. So the first year you trade for him, it's a sunk cost.

So there's just no, I mean, I just, I don't think, I don't think in the current way the game is being played, if you're going to give me a big, give me Yokic. He can shoot. I'll take Yokic. He works with everybody, elevates everybody, and can shoot. Janus is very team specific. You have to be bad defensively so he can solve your defensive issues. That's why he would work kind of with the Lakers, because Luke is a liability on the defensive

end, and so is Austin Reeves. and he could be the rim protector. But it would be hard because you'd be taking the ball away from Luca and Austin Reef. So even with the Lakers, it's a weird fit. So the Warriors were interested, but they settled for Christop's Porzengis, talented but can't stay healthy. Jonathan Caminga, buddy healed out. Caminga, they, you know, when I look at what defines the Warriors over the last four years,

couldn't make Jordan Pool work, James Wiseman work, Jonathan Camingo work, all have some talent. Moses Moody was okay, but they have not drafted an all-star since Draymond Green in 2012. And this is the one downside to having a great popular superstar. How do you end it? How do you do it? Bulls had Michael Jordan. Jerry Reinsdorf, rest in peace, came out and said, okay, this is the last run.

That's why they made the documentary. This is it. You think, okay, all right, all right. Start over. Yeah, and the Derek Rose Bulls were interesting for about 45. minutes and but they've been mostly irrelevant since and then you think well the post tim duncan the spurs won a late one with tim duncan kawai yeah they did and you think they're brilliantly run they have not won a playoff series since 2017 and they've drafted brilliantly

so post cobi pre lebron lakers were the worst team in the league they were bad so what do you do when you have this wildly popular star there's no perfect answer you can you can can cut the ties, you can spread it. I mean, they've been trying to make this thing work forever. But the bottom line is the Steve Kerr, Steph Curry offense is complicated and cerebral. It is massive motion. You have to be very instinctive. And a lot of these young guys, Cominga just never felt like it worked. So the warriors have become very old. They don't get fast break points and very small. They don't rebound well or get points in the paint. They're a hard watch when Curry's off the floor. They're just a boring team to watch.

They don't have size. They don't have speed. And so they used to be a draft developed team, right, with Steph and Clay and Draymond. But then they became an acquisition team to fit in with Steph. And the problem is that is not the league. The league is so punitive now on acquisitions. So what they need to be, because they can't, the young guys don't work there. They don't work.

So you've got to be an acquisition team. Well, the NBA punishes you. So basically, what they do now get veteran players, it's too punitive. OKC, great team, young, nimble. Detroit, built entirely through the draft. You know, San Antonio, super young and nimble. The Warriors are old, expensive, slow, small. It just doesn't work.

I think they wanted Janus. But even Janus, my question was, well, I mean, Steph can't give you 82 games. Yonis can't give you 82 games. They'll be more fun to watch. You know, I mean, you're going to have two stars. You'll be a playoff team. But I think, you know, I think this is what happens.

I think the bull struggle with it post Jordan. You know, you got post-Cobie. You got post-Duncan. I don't know what you do. I don't think there's an answer for it. But it feels like, you know what they feel like? The Warriors feel like the old guy that walks into the young nightclub, and you're like,

Cringy. You may want to, Applebee's next door. This isn't working for you. I mean, they just don't feel like, they feel like out of touch for what the league is. It's, it's the,

the acquisition, young guys don't work. We know that. Now they don't work. Kaminga's got talent. It just doesn't work. Okay, let's go acquire guys. That's not what the league is.

That, that's what Adam Silver has built with all these aprons. He's built a league to really punish you if that's your game plan. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. It's been a huge week in the NBA column, but we're starting with the NFL because there is actual news in the Super Bowl and it's not great for Seattle. Nick Umanwari, the great young talent in the secondary, a great chess piece who can play in the box

in the secondary, injured his ankle at practice yesterday, and we have video footage of him walking into the hotel last night. If you have not seen this, it's not great news for Seahawks fans. Here's a Mn-Wari getting out of an SUV, and you can see he's clearly laboring. Unless he's hamming it up for the cameras, Colin, this does not look good. That is a pronounced limp.

Now, maybe you shoot him up. That's Wednesday night. Yeah, I mean, okay, so he's got to practice Thursday. We'll see what happens today at practice. Then he's got Friday, Saturday. Young players heal very quickly. I mean, depending on. All right.

That just doesn't look great. That's not natural. That's what I looked last night out of a car. Yeah, that's what I heard. I was getting some reports about you last night getting after it. Obviously, Emunwari is what really makes his defense go. Their secondaries loaded witherspoon. He's so versatile.

And, you know, safety's a position in the league that's in vogue now. Yeah. Like a lot of the really good teams are, safeties are moving up draft boards. So it's a very cyclical league. Nobody likes running backs. now everybody wants running back. These two teams run the ball. Safety has become a kind of an alpha on these defenses,

a versatile safety who can cover, who can pass rush. This kid can get sacks. Tackle in space. He's a great tackler. So this is a... He can match up with your wide receiver, your tight end, you're running back out of the back deal, all of it. Like he's all over the board.

This would be a big blow to Seattle if he's unable to play. But it's still, what's say, Thursday. Hopefully he'll be fine in time. All right, let's go to the next story. Dallas Cowboys, Colin. They haven't been to an NFC championship game since 1995. My goodness, so embarrassing. And, of course, Dak Prescott's at the Super Bowl,

and he's getting asked on his chances of making a Super Bowl in the future. Monkey Gorilla, you know, he grows. He gets bigger each year that we don't make it. And that's real, you know, talking to Micah. Just, you know, it's one of those things, you know, you become a rookie, you get in here, and, you know, everybody thinks they can win the Super Bowl, and they think how easy it is.

And when you have a year, like I did, as a rookie year, you think you're going to have multiple opportunities. to get back and you sit here in year 10 having opportunities in the playoffs and not doing what you wanted to do as a team and definitely individually it hurts and every year you know it just means even more you know it's interesting he's a little bit of the opposite of sam darnal so the first impressions of darnell is bust yeah but inside the league everybody's like now he's one of the best athletes i've ever seen play the position DAC comes on to the scene as a fourth rounder Dallas Cowboys Big Brand,

offensive coach, very quick, the best offensive line in the league, the initial imagery of Dak is, this guy's a Hall of Famer. Wasn't it like 24 touchdowns, two picks as a rookie? 13 and 3. They had the best own line, very quickly had Zeke. So the

early belief on on Dak after like two years was, it's going to be a Hall of Fame. This is an elite player. And Dak has sort of plateaued because he's not a great athlete. He didn't have a big arm. Donald's a much more talented player. But Darnold's initial, the embedded part of Darnold is can't play C's ghost, the initial part with Dax.

So my take on Dack has always been, he got overvalued because he walked into a really good, if you have the best offensive line in the league. I mean, for a quarterback, it's hard, it's hard to fail. I think he started as a third string quarterback in preseason. It was Romo who got hurt. Then there was a backup whose name escapes me. And then Dack comes in. People are no expectations.

He was, it was amazing. He had a game at the Colise. see him. I thought it was a preseason game or something, and people went. Yeah, dude, he was good. But, but as you later found out, there are limitations when you put him in playoff games against elite teams. He's been a very average postseason quarterback. So I got a surprise question for you. It's not on the sheet here. How many career playoff wins for Dak Prescott? Two. Correct. Sam Darnold has two this postseason. Drake May has three already. And I look at Jack and I'm like, he hasn't been great in the playoffs, but Colin, has Jerry Jones put a great

team around him? No, my argument is just on the imagery. The initial first two years of Sam was can't play. The initial, because of what he inherited in Dallas, was unbelievable player. The truth is today, if you ask GM, Sam's more talented. But those first impressions die slowly. I mean, Brock Purdy, my guy, five playoff wins. Five. First impression for Brock was like, he didn't lose a game. Remember the first time when he came in as the backup? And now has reality set in with Brock a little bit, he gets dinged up. There are, he can be a bit reckless.

He does need to have a little better protection. Yeah, but the first impressions, I mean, by the way, first impressions of Jalen Hertz. Whoa, wow. I heard two things last night at, a Super Bowl party, the Jalen Hertz locker room stuff is not good. He is not popular. The narratives, listen, I got to defend my guy Hertz.

I'm dug in, you know, defending Super Bowl MVP. Jalen Hertz, let's put some respect on his name. Final story, Colin, Sean McVeigh and Les Need are locked in for next season, but now the question becomes, what about Matthew Stafford? The likely MVP should return for his 18th season. I'm told he's coming back. but Sneed addressed that future. Here we go.

At the macro level, I think we, when Matthew's own the horse, we go, let's make the most of our time with Matthew, and we're well aware that there will be a time where we have to transition. So you kind of do both at the same time. Because there will be two different teams with or without Matthew,

obviously with the position he plays and how important that position is and how well he plays it. I actually think it's pretty cool. I've thought about this with the Rams. They have two firsts this year. Don't worry about a quarterback, and it's not a great quarterback draft. Just stack the team because the following year,

you're probably going to have to give up all sorts of draft picks to get your quarterback, and the Rams are still very young on defense. So why not just ride with Stafford? Instead of worrying about his replacement, you got Garoppolo as a backup. He's capable to win games. Stack, take every one of these picks. and make sure they fit with Stafford and just make a run at the Super Bowl.

I mean, Sean McBade's made two Super Bowls. He gets to three. He's on a short list of coaches who can do that. We're so worried about replacing players. You don't get many Max Crosby's. You don't get many Patrick Surton for the Broncos. Those are once a decade players.

Don't worry about replacing them. Just stack players around them. You may never. get. The Rams will probably never get a quarterback ever again as good as Matt Stafford. I'm not drafting his replacement until I have to. Yeah. So, Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. Speaking of great players, he has been as advertised, Aidan Hutchison of the Detroit Lions. He is joining us now live. I'm not sure if I've ever a Michigan man through and through is joining us live.

You know, it's interesting. You, when you go to an event like this and you're watching Seattle and New England, do you have mixed emotions? I mean, do you, are you sitting there thinking, oh my God, this is my whole dream. This is my whole life. It's like playing at Michigan. If you can beat Ohio State, it's great, and Michigan's great.

But if somebody went four years to Michigan and never beat the Buckeyes, you're like, it feels a little. little unfulfilling. When you're at the Super Bowl, Aden, are you like, this makes you hungrier? It's kind of, how do you feel this week? Yeah, I mean, at this point, with this being my fifth Super Bowl without being at the Super Bowl, you know, it pisses you off a little bit because we know the talent. We got on our team and we know, like, what we're capable of love. We just got to put it together and play complimentary football and we'll be all right. So that's what we got to do next year if we want to be in the big show.

We've talked a lot about Mike Vrable this week and that his physicality, his size, it's hard to duplicate Mike Vrable. Dan Campbell's probably the one guy in the league that is sort of Vrable NFC version where there are just not many human beings, the size of Dan Campbell. And I don't think you can be, I don't think you can coach like Dan unless you're Dan, right? Like that kind of, I mean, to me, he's such an authentic guy. Have you ever in your entire life and all the coaches you've had, high school college pro, have you ever had anybody that even like Dan Campbell? Yeah, you know, I mean, him and Harbaugh were similar in that way for their love for football, but Dan is different in the way that you said it.

It's like, for one, he's like towering. I feel, I don't feel small in front of many people, but like when someone's like kind of like, has broad shoulders and like standing toe to toe with me, Um, he makes me feel a little bit small for sure. But, um, so there's that factor, but it's also the way he lays it, he lays it on the line. Like even post games, like if it's a tough loss or even a, even a great win, the authenticity of the reactions and the emotions. It like you, you feel that as a player. And even when, you know, stuff wasn't going right for us this year.

Um, it was kind of up and now, a win, loss, win, loss. We couldn't really find a streak. And he was really imploring us to just stay in the fight. Like we're going to catch fire at some point. And we ended up missing the playoffs. Man, I think there's no lost belief in him. Well, you had Sam Darnold in your division a year ago. And I've always said we were talking about in the show today,

whatever the initial impressions are, it could be of an actor's first movies. If they're both great, you just think great actor, and they could go 12 years without a hit. Sam Donald's initial impressions are, oh, he can't play. But every time, Christian McCaffrey came on my show yesterday, he's like, I played with him in Carolina. And my first impression was, that's one of the best players I've ever played with.

So the fans are like, yeah, guys, interception. Players I've talked to are like, oh, I love Sam. Sam is a baller. He could be a linebacker. What were your impressions? When, like, Minnesota moved off him, Were you actually, I mean, he was so good. Were you kind of surprised?

For sure. That situation is one, that Minnesota situation is just, it can go either way. And it's whatever way the owner and the GM, they want to take that team. And they ended up wanting to move on from him. And now he's in the Super Bowl. So it's, you know, all I got to say is, I'm not going to, we're going to talk about Minnesota. I just want to say congrats to Sam, you know, because I think he's had a crazy ride in the NFL. and to be where he's at and having a good chance at winning the Super Bowl.

Like that is, talk about an adversity story, overcoming adversity, and looking your obstacles in the face and just not caring about failure and just keep moving on like that. To him, he embodies that. Yeah. You know, it's the NFL's crazy. Max Crosby was a fourth round pick. That's just crazy.

Brady was a sixth round pick. And then there are guys like you that, are just physically look different, play different. You're an easy comp. It's like, okay, that guy's a first round pick. That guy's top first. But they're not many. After about 15 picks, I've had GMs tell me for years,

it's kind of 15 guys that are different, and then it's a bunch of really potentially good players. I look at Detroit, and I've said this many times, I think your front office is excellent. I'm like, there's a lot of dudes on that team. There are a lot of dudes in Detroit. Does that make losing tougher? Does that make disappointment tougher,

knowing in that locker room, you got fourth round guys like Amaran St. Brown. Like, you got guys everywhere. Did that make it tougher this year? Absolutely, dude. I mean, that's, it's, we're no longer, it's no longer 2022, where if we win a game, everybody's screaming in the locker room, cheering. It's just the expectation at this point. And when we're not doing that, not even when, I don't care what people say about us,

I don't care what reporters say, like, the overall expectation for what guys, believe we should be capable of is that it's winning every week it's playoffs it's super bowl like the fact that we haven't made one it does piss me off at this point because I know what we can do and I and I know but don't get me wrong I know in my whole heart I believe that that we're going to go and and we're going to win it one day and do I know when that will be no but I do know it will happen yeah you know I look at this Super Bowl and I our teams, defensive coaches, athletic quarterbacks

that like to throw the ball downfield, really good secondaries, front sevens with a lot of dudes that have got range and can move. Offensive lines, okay. Okay, there's a couple players, each old lines got like a really good, Gray's Zabel

for Seattle is a dude. Charles Cross pretty good. It's just interesting. When you look at these two teams, and I know you're concentrating on the lines, but when you look at these two teams. Do you think there's one team you go, oh, that team has an edge here? Do you see it that way? Honestly, I haven't watched a ton of these teams, but like you said, it's like if you say the offensive lines are okay, like I think really good quarterback play with mobile quarterbacks.

Like they can, in football now, like that can really, like when we play Baltimore, for example, like it doesn't matter who the old linemen are, you could beat them, but you got to then get Lamar down. And that's a whole other task. You know, so it's, uh, uh, offenses definitely make it challenging now with their mobile quarterbacks. Even if you went on the rush, you then got to take down a quarterback who's running a four or five and, and can juke you out. You know, so it's, um, it's a tough task. But again, you're right, defensive-minded teams. This is going to be very defensive game and, um, it's going to be fun to watch as a defensive player myself. You know, you had, you played and you're playing all the games and you show up every week and you

had come off an injury the previous year. And for players like you, it's one thing like in baseball, I guess pitchers have arm injuries, but a shortstop can play for 20 years. In the NBA, you know, guys play for a long time. Your position is

so violent and you're literally, I mean, the collisions you are in weekly are just like, I don't, I've said this before to fans. You have no idea what football's like from TV. Go stand on the sidelines. It's, I mean, I, I'm 6-2, I'm bigger than average American.

It's terrifying. Like, God, do you think about that that you are living a dream? Michigan, first round pick, got the financial set. Do you think about that when you play this game as, man, I better cherish every freaking snap. Now you have a good coach. You have a good front office. Half this league doesn't. How do you, like, how do you think of yourself and your career and your future?

because you're still young in a sport where you age quickly. That's right. That's a great point. That's why I'm really since college. When I was kind of in the middle of college, I prioritized longevity. I prioritized diet and my health because I knew, man, if this game that I love so much really depends on my longevity and how long I can stay athletic, how long I can stay injury-free, like, why don't more guys than take care of their body?

you know if you really love this game so um man i have so much passion when i got that taken away from me last year it it hurt you know not being able to go out there especially with a good ass team number one seed in the nfc last year like um that hurt and so being able to play this year with a really fun defense really good guys it was um it felt like i was back and and again to your point it's um this NFL experience is very fleeting and i understand that and that's why i really try to do everything I can to play as long as I can. And so at the end of this career, I'm going to look back and go, I'm good. I did it all.

You remind me of Max Crosby, and I know Max and I love Max. I just, and that you're willing to talk a little bit during a game. Like you're a verbal guy. Do you, I mean, not even, maybe intimidation not. Do you find yourself verbalizing stuff during games? Is this like almost, it's a performance. for you it's three hours of being relentless. I mean, I've had pass rushers tell me this,

and I haven't had other players tell me this. I've had pass rushers tell me, bro, I have to change personality. Like, it is, I am a different human for 58 snaps on Sunday. Is that you, or you're kind of just the same intense guy? No, man, that switch flips. And to me, I'm not as vocal on the field. I'm like, I like to be more of a quiet killer, Like, I like, I won't say anything to old linemen, but if I'm, when I'm beating them,

getting them, getting them, getting them, like you see the, you see the wear down, you see the demeanors change a little bit, and to me, like, that is the war within the war. You know what I mean? It's not necessarily what you say. It's when you start cooking, like that, that, when the demeanors change, momentum's flipping, and you feel it, that's when football's fun, man. You got quality hair. Head and shoulders must be helping you with that.

that quality head of hair, Aiden, that's all I've got to say. That's a good... They are, man. They are. Man, I'm out here with head and shoulders, tackling Dandruff with every wash, staying consistent every day. They've been a great partner with me, and, man, staying consistent with them. Keeping that dry scalp nice and moisturized.

We've been good, man. You look like you've been using it to yourself, man. You look like you got a good head of hair, man. My age starts with a six, and I still got hair. Hey, if I can be like that, I'd be blessed, okay? Because, you know, and luckily, I think genetically I might be all right, but you never know. But I think I'm looking good for 25 right now. We still got everything intact.

This is a hairpiece. I just don't let anybody know. A little too bad. Yeah, that's right. All right. Good to see you, buddy. Good to see it, man. Aidan Hutchison, great, great player.

Man, right now in the NFL, we got some pass. pass rushers. Like I understand, but like we talk quarterbacks. We have got some pass rushers in this sport that are all time good. Jay Glazer reported this week, Max Crosby is done with the Raiders. They're going to get a haul for Max Crosby. I think you can get a bigger than Micah Parsons Hall. I really believe that.

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Crap coin. All right. So, Super Bowl betting report. Okay, I'm going to play a little sociologist, psychologist here. According to the market, all Seattle money. 1.76 billion to be wagered legally in this game. Four and a half point favorite Seattle. getting all the money.

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Here's the other story Is that Max Crosby is reportedly According to Jay Glazer Jay's been on a heater Is done with the Raiders So here is this is actually The Raiders This actually

Is not terrible for the Raiders Because Max Crosby has not translated into success right Like they haven't had the right coach And the right quarterback and I think they now have both but Max is going to get you an absolute haul. Really good teams, good teams that probably could talk themselves into winning a Super Bowl with Max, New England, the Bears, and the Ravens all could use Max Crosby.

Okay, the Patriots could use him, the Ravens could use him, the Bears could absolutely use him. I could absolutely see in all three teams get them up a first round pick or more. And here's the thing. Micah Parsons, five-star recruit, goes to Big Brand Penn State, first-round pick, goes to the Cowboys, is viewed one way. But to me, he's a splash player who disappears against the run and has been overwhelmed by really elite left tackles in the postseason. Max Crosby goes to Eastern Michigan, fourth round pick, goes to the lowly Raiders. for a long time, he's viewed another way. To me, Max Crosby is the better player.

Max Crosby's much better against the run. Max Crosby is not a splash player. Max Crosby is a relentless dog, very much like Aidan Hutchison or a Miles Garrett. He just doesn't take plays off. And Micah is good. I'm not saying that, but I always felt, and I've had GMs telling me this,

Micah is a splash player. He makes very memorable plays. And he's very good. And Green Bay's defense was not as good when he got injured. I'm not saying Mike is not a first round talent. But Crosby is better against the run. I think

you get a more consistent effort. So if the Raiders do move off him, they're going to get a haul. A haul. When I talk to executives around this league and I say

who do you think is a guy who's a great player, take out quarter And I've asked this question for it. Take out quarterbacks. Give me three guys in the league you die to have. Like, without question, Max Crosby gets named. Here was Jay Glazer this week on his future.

There's a couple guys. If they tell you their plan, they're playing. It's not open for discussion. They're playing. If there's certain guys, they need it. Do you think his time with the Raiders is done? I do. Before the draft?

Probably, yeah. What kind of haul do you think, realistically, a Max Crosby gets in general? He, probably more than Michael. So the day it happened, no less than 20 teams called me. 20 teams on Max Crosby. He's only played with one defensive pro bowler. He's been double. Everybody knows you've got to stop one raider.

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