The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 1 - The QB Standard

Episode Date: August 3, 2023

Colin breaks down the verbal spat between Dak Prescott and Trevon Diggs, discusses the HOF game tonight and the ratings it will get, plus, why Colin holds QBs to a higher standard and much more!See om...nystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:03 It is a Thursday. We are live in Los Angeles. It's the herd, wherever you may be. However, you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Good show today. Big Ten expansion could happen soon. Washington, Oregon to the Big Ten.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Joel Clatt joins us last hour to talk about that. Jets, Browns. tonight. Hall of Fame game. Very exciting, J-Mack. Very exciting. Mackay Beckton can play tonight. That's all I care about. I got to make one correction. You said good show today. I'll upgrade that to great show today. There's a lot happening. Very exciting show today. All right. Let's start with this. What you say in anger and what you say with a little alcohol in you is always closer to the truth than you'd want to admit. You feel bad in the morning or an hour later, but when you're ticked off in the moment, what do you say? You pull up the truth from the gut.
Starting point is 00:03:08 A couple cocktails in you. How do you act? That's who you are. That was a moment yesterday. I'm sure it's no big deal. Media often pandering. We don't do that here. Little moment, the kind of moment that really started a problem between Kevin Durant and Draymond Green.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Just a few words here and there. Dak Prescott, Trayvon Diggs, practice play. Here's the tape. Oh, interesting. Shut your blank, blank up. Right in his face. Looked him right in the eye and leaned in to Dak. Trayvon Diggs, shut your B.A. up.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I don't think players would say that to Patrick Mahomes. Nobody ever said that to Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, Elway. You think a bingo would do that to Joe Burrow? I don't know, but I'm sure it's no big deal. People say they love DAC. Maybe they do. But do they respect him? Seven years.
Starting point is 00:04:21 On average, top 5-0 line. Two offensive coaches. Massive marketing. A lot of money. Great weapons. Not good ones. C.D. Lamb. Amari Cooper.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Zeke, Tony Pollard, Des Bryant. Two playoff wins. And Zeke was the star of one of them. players Seema Holmes, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert. There's a wow factor. Jalen Hertz, second year as a starter. Whoa! That guy may be the best player in the league after Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Whoa! I don't see an eagle getting in the face of Jalen Hertz and saying that. I don't. When Draymond Green got in the face of Kevin Durant, there was some truth in what he said. We won before you. we'll win after you. Draymond was right in both cases.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Deep down, Draymond can like, love KD. But what you say in anger, those little microbursts, I mean, Jordan Poole and Draymond got along great a lot of times. It was out one or two seconds. He crossed a line. What happened? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Shut your B.A. up. I just, now maybe it's a digs thing. Stefan Diggs, Trash talking, his quarterback. Trayvon Diggs trash talking his quarterback. I don't know, folks. I don't see any bingo walk. I don't seen Sam Hubbard walking up to Joe Burrow and doing that. I don't see Chris Jones walking up to Mahomes doing that.
Starting point is 00:05:52 I don't know. I don't see any RAM doing it to Matt Stafford. I'm sure it's no big deal. Just a few words here and there. Everybody tells me they love Dak. So they respect him. You think an eagle would say that the Jalen Hertz, turn around, lean in? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Well, I don't want to go too far on this. All right. So the Jets and the Browns play tonight. Yeah, I'll watch it. Shockingly, it'll get a great TV rating. It's just unbelievable to me. None of the starters will play. But my number one concern, the only thing I read
Starting point is 00:06:36 care about is 25 snaps. That's reportedly what left tackle, right tackle, absolute bust so far Mackay Beckton's getting. Aaron Rogers is 39. I looked it up this morning. He's been sacked 530 times and hit 1,000. He's over it. He's never had a bad offensive line. This is the first potentially. So Dwayne Brown's 38 had a great career at left tackle, but he's 38, 38. 38. year old left tackles aren't going to give you 17 games. Mackay Beckton at one point will have to play left tackle for some games this year. Health and weight issues, he's a bust. I like Joe Douglas, but watch out when you're a bust at quarterback, Zach Wilson, and a bust
Starting point is 00:07:22 at left tackle. You can hit on a lot of corners and wide receivers. You've got to get left tackle and quarterback right or you're playing catch-up for years. That's why they're going to spend $100 million next year in Aaron Rogers because Zach Wilson's a bust. It's why they may have to spend a fortune on a left tackle. Oh, wait, they can't because of Aaron's salary. They can't go spend a fortune on left tackle. Mackay Beckton's got to be able to play next year. Somebody has to. Interior O line, Elijah Verit Tucker, I like him. They're fine there, or at least okay. But last year, PFF had the Jets O line at 31st, and they're not better at
Starting point is 00:08:01 tackle. And Mackay backed into this point is a bust. So that's all I'm watching. He's getting 25 steps tonight. And you start looking at the AFC. And we always talk about the AFC how great the quarterbacks are because they are. But let me name some of the edge rushers in the AFC. T.J. Watt, Joey Bosa, Max Crosby, Miles Garrett, Sam Hubbard, Trey Hendrickson, Vaughn Miller, Matt Judon, Bradley Chubb, I'll stop there. There's plenty more. The AFC is quarterbacks and edge rushers. And Aaron Rogers, remember, has had two collarbone injuries, both bears and Vikings when he left the pocket.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Aaron Rogers, seven straight years in declining yards per game rushing. He didn't want to get out of the pocket. He didn't want to get hit. If you go to the end of Manning and Brady's careers, they just fall down. They didn't want to get hit. And I'm not saying Aaron was ever a huge runaround guy, but he is now, last two years, you've seen a falloff. We've talked about this, Jay Mack and I have in the show.
Starting point is 00:09:11 He doesn't get out of the pocket. Aaron doesn't want to get hit. He'll throw it away. I totally get it. He's 39 years old. Two collarbone surgeries. He's been sack 530 times. He's been hit 1,000.
Starting point is 00:09:22 He has no interest with a bad offensive line. So that's really what I care about with the Jets. I like their defensive front. I like their corners, good young safety. I think they're good at running back. They don't need Dalvin Cook. Garrett Wilson, I think, could be a star. I would prefer they be better at tight end and had one more high-end wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:09:42 But they're really a good football team. Cross your fingers with a defensive head coach in an offensive era. And I don't know what to make of them at tackle. Because Duane Brown's not giving you 17 starts. So Becht is going to have to move over or somebody is. And you've got to remember, Aaron, Rogers at 39 has had David Bactiari. He's had very good old lines. The Patriots and the Packers, I don't know what it is over the last 15 years, rarely draft like a tackle in the first round,
Starting point is 00:10:11 and yet they've always got good ones. The Patriots and the Packers do a great job. Some of it's Dante Scarnackia, the New England coach that retired, the O-Line coach. The Packers do a great job. First of all, the Packers never bust on their first pick. Say what you want about Jordan Love. He'd be the first and forever. They don't bust on first. round picks. And they don't miss very often on second, third, and fourth and fifth round, offensive line picks. The Jets whiffed at quarterback. That's why they had to pay for Aaron and left tackle. So far, Mackay Beckton. That's why Dwayne Brown has to give them a lot of starts. And he's not giving him 17. So that's all I care about tonight. I'm going to watch that.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Nothing else matters to me. He's getting 25 snaps. Cross your fingers. He'll have to play some left tackle this year. They've moved him to right. They're trying to salvage it and get anything they can out of him. There you go. I will throw this at you, J-Mac. It's interesting. So, Zach Wilson's not a franchise quarterback. Temperament size, style. And he's got too big of a profile and I think too big of an ego to be a backup. So to me, I really do think to get something out of him. Because Beckton at this point, it's a miss, and Zach's a miss. And they've had a lot of hits. Last year, they got a corner and a receiver in the first round. Both look great.
Starting point is 00:11:25 But in back-to-back gears for Joe Douglas, whiff at left tackle, whiff at quarterback first round. By the way, the second round picks have not been great either. Elijah Moore's already gone, and the wide receiver bust. So they've had first and second round bust. So what you can do then is salvage it.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Can Mackay Beckton be a right tackle? It's not what you drafted him for, but you salvage it. I think Zach Wilson's an interesting piece. can you salvage it? He's not going to be a backup with his personality. I don't know if he's a franchise guy, but Aaron shouldn't take any snaps in the preseason.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I would really make a point. I want to see a lot of quality Zach Wilson in the preseason because I think you could get to the trade deadline and if somebody's going sideways and they like their – because he's got talent. If somebody is good but loses a quarterback, maybe Raiders get off to a decent start. Zach Wilson get you a fifth.
Starting point is 00:12:19 six-round pick, salvage him? Because I think with Becht and Zach, you're in the salvage. You can say all you want to the press. You're salvaging, though. Becton's not going to be an elite left tackle. Andrew Thomas Giants, home run. Took him year two, home run next 10 years. Beckton has no chance to be that.
Starting point is 00:12:36 So you're salvaging him. Can he be a right tackle and a left tackle swing, fill in? Zach Wilson preseason me is fascinating. You're a Jets fan. What if a lot of snaps looks decent would you move him at the deadline for a fifth? I don't hate that idea, but I do wonder, so Zach Wilson, you think salvageable? I know, I think he's movable.
Starting point is 00:12:58 He's not going to ever be a... He'll never be the jet starting quarter. Right, I would agree. But if you're out there and you see Zach Wilson, would you rather kick the tires on Trey Lance and Sanfran? Zach. Or Zach Wilson? Well, I don't worry about Zach's throwing motion and his arm strength.
Starting point is 00:13:12 So I would probably roll the dice. He's a little small. I think he lacks self-awareness. He's a little loose. but I don't want to have to teach you how to throw. I don't want to go there. That's fair. So I think Zach Wilson's fascinating.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It's okay to admit this. Elijah Moore is a miss. Bechton, I think, is salvageable. I'll just say this. His agent is telling him, hey, man, this is a contract year. I don't care how much pain you're in. You've got to play through it. You've got to show out or you're not getting a second contract anywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Nobody's going to want you. This is your year, Beckton. They put you at right tackle. You've got to shine. You've got to be a good soldier. is it here for him to get paid. He's going to be the best he can be this season. We know that.
Starting point is 00:13:52 He has to be. That's his future in the league. But I do want to drill down on something you said, Colin. And it might spook some Jets fans. This is reality. You know, I'm a fan, but I'm also a realist. Yeah. So last year, the season opener, Bill's Rams.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Do you remember what happened to Matt Stafford in that game? I don't. He was sacked seven times by Von Miller and company. He was hit 16 times. It set the tone for the season. The Rams don't have an offensive line. So the next few weeks, they play San Fran twice. Dallas, Tampa, and they obliterated the Rams offensive line.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Stafford was dead by mid-season. That scenario could very well play out with the New York Jets. After week one with the bills, they go to Dallas and Micah Parsons. If the Jets' offensive line cannot hold up against Buffalo in week one, Dan Quinn's defensive line is going to kill him in week two. And now the Jets are staring at 0-2 and you're like, oh my gosh, is Rogers going to make it through the season. This is a nuclear scenario, but a real one.
Starting point is 00:14:45 No, the first two weeks, Buffalo, and Dallas are really good up front. This is the best Dallas defense in forever. And by the way, Micah Parsons has put on weight. Now, he is an edge rusher. Defensive player of the year, like, puts the money on him. He's probably got a chance. Yeah. So, no, tonight, I'm watching Bechton.
Starting point is 00:15:03 If Bechton can give me 25 starts, no sacks, and looks good. It's like, okay, I got Dwayne for a year at left. You're not going to play every game. I got Bechton it right, and Bechton can fill it. I'm guessing they're not going to face Miles Garrett. No, no, no, no. But I just want to see competence. Competent's a baseline level of confidence.
Starting point is 00:15:18 The head's dinged up in the Hall of Fame game. You're like, folks, we got an issue. Green Bay does not miss on first round picks. We don't know about Jordan Love. I went back a decade. They've missed on one or two seconds, but Green Bay's always gotten the first couple right. And they develop O-lines.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I don't know what it is in the water, but they do a great job with O-lines, and it's third, fourth, fifth, six-round guys. So Aaron's had the comfort of offensive coaches in Green Bay. Now he's got a defensive coach. and really good protection in Green Bay. And now this AFC is not just quarterbacks. It is a conference of edge rushers.
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Starting point is 00:18:53 credible great rates, none of the bulls. So the Big Ten conference is now seriously exploring adding the University of Washington and Oregon. Oregon's got the Nike money, the Phil Knight connection. Washington's been to a college football playoff recently and also has won a national championship. Both schools, when they get the right coach, win a lot of football games and become top 10 programs. The SEC is not slowing down. They're going to add Clemson and Florida State the minute they can and perhaps Miami. So adding Washington, major market Seattle makes a lot of sense. And adding Nike and Phil Knight makes a lot of sense. The big, 10 has a ton of dead weight.
Starting point is 00:19:41 They added Maryland and Rutgers. Nebraska rebooting again at Coach. Let's be honest. Nebraska, middle of nowhere, trying it again. I don't think they'll ever recover. Maryland and Rutgers are big major market cities, right? They're right next to them.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Nobody cares in Maryland and nobody cares in New Jersey. Washington, Seattle, Huskies have huge fan bases. Oregon maybe has the best fans in the conference. So there's dead weight through all of these conferences, I've been told athletic directors are very reluctant to get rid of dead weight. So the only solution to keep up with the SEC is add good teams.
Starting point is 00:20:20 You could scale back on five or six teams in the Big Ten and be stronger, but they're not going to do that. That's not what school presidents and athletic directors do. Every conference has dead weight. Big Ten's got a lot of it. And it's going nowhere. So the only way to stay up with an SEC is to add. because they're adding Florida State and Clemson, and they just added Texas and Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:20:43 So the Big Ten going with the Pacific Time Zone, USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington makes a ton of sense. And the other thing is, college football is starting to look like pro football anyway. You watch a college football game, LSU, Joe Burrow, there's eight pros there. The next year, they're excelling. You got NIL. You got transfer portal.
Starting point is 00:21:03 You have coaches now making eight-figure salaries. Yes, eight-figure salaries, major TV deals. Players, it's like free agency. You're buying players. It's starting to look like pro football anyway. And we're going to have two major conferences, the SEC and the Big Ten. Let's be honest. Those have been the best two conferences in terms of revenue and TV appeal forever.
Starting point is 00:21:28 It makes sense. College football, my entire life, has been the haves and the have-nots. Everybody says, oh, we're expanding. to a 12-team playoff. It's not going to change who becomes a national champion, just going to add more teams to the discussion, but you're not going to have a Cincinnati or a Boise State or a Army win a national title. It's going to be the same eight teams. Now, you could add in Texas and USC maybe because they have the right coaches finally, but we're expanding to a 12-team playoff. My guess is eight will come from the SEC and the
Starting point is 00:21:59 Big Ten, and I'm totally okay with it. And it may be nine if Florida State and Clemson get added to the SEC and Washington and Oregon get added to the Big Ten. You can go look at movies. You can go look at sports. It's have and have nots. Tennis, soccer, same four or five countries, winter Olympics, summer Olympics. You got to move on. Movie studios.
Starting point is 00:22:24 They want the big players. That's what they want. That's what's driving the revenue for the streamers, the big stars, big writers, and big directors. So Washington and Oregon, I get a major market. I get Phil Knight and Nike. I get schools that are, I mean, take Ohio State and Michigan out of it. I could argue Washington and Oregon could very well, very quickly be battling for that third spot, some year second.
Starting point is 00:22:51 So, I mean, you add Washington and Oregon, you also at a region, they're kind of damp, cold weather programs. I could argue it's a better fit than the California schools to the Big Ten. closer flights, a lot closer to fly Seattle to Chicago, Seattle to Iowa sometimes than Los Angeles. And I'm all for USC and UCLA joining the Big Ten. But these conferences are not going to get rid of the dead weight. It's not what they do. I've been told this time and time again, Big Ten, SEC, they've got who they've got, they won't, school presidents and ADs will not move off the weaker teams.
Starting point is 00:23:27 So how do you keep up with the SEC? You go add top 12 college football programs. whenever Washington's had the right coach. They've got him now. Chris Peterson, Don James, a power. You go look at Oregon. Mike Bellotti ended up number two in the country. Chip Kelly, the kid they have now from Georgia is a recruiting beast.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Looks like they found the right guy again. Mario Cristobal won a lot of games at Oregon. So I think it's a good ad. I think it's smart. And if you're going to keep up with the SEC, listen, Oregon and Washington, in the world of have and have nots in college football, are both halves.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And there's about 15 of them, maybe 18 halves. And then it's a lot of have-nought. It's 100 have-nots. So I'll take a couple halves. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.
Starting point is 00:24:22 All right, let's go back to the NFL, go to Trey Lance, who has been working so hard, Colin, to come back and regain that starting job after the nasty injury last year. 49ers quarterback coach Brian Greasy is ready to see all of Lance's improvements in live preseason reps. Tray has gotten a lot better. And you can tell he's put a lot of time in. I think the way I kind of described it to you guys the last time we talked, first and foremost, he had to get healthy.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Because a lot of what he was struggling with from the mechanic standpoint stemmed from him not being healthy, which is really difficult. And so he's done that. And I'm really encouraged by what he's done and the strides that he's made. The ball's coming out really well. And so we'll see where it goes from here when we get into live reps in preseason.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I think it like Zach Wilson, you're in the salvage situation. A ton of reps in the preseason for Zach Wilson and Trey Lance. They're both really talented kids. One's got a big arm. One can move. They both have talent.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Zach and Trey got talent. I don't, you know, but I think you're out of they're going to be the future of the Niners and Jets. So first round pick quarterback doesn't hit. Can you salvage it? Can you show them off? I think Zach Wilson and Trey Lance put up really nice. Brock Purdy's starting and Aaron Rogers is starting. Let's just get over it.
Starting point is 00:25:49 So now can you get something out of it? And I'm not sure Trey Lance couldn't be a franchise quarterback. I have my doubts. I don't think Zach is. But that doesn't mean the team doesn't get desperate. You show off in the, I've seen people in the preseason. Dak Prescott had a great preseason and literally overnight. Let's get Tony Romo out of here.
Starting point is 00:26:08 So I'd just play them a ton and see what you can get. I mean, these high picks, Baker Mayfield, I forgot, where did he go after Cleveland? Was it, was it Rams? Rams, Carolina. Oh, Carolina, that's right. So we saw, you know, Baker Mayfield. They got to the playoffs. They won a game in Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:26:25 It was mostly the defense and I think Big Ben was awful. But he got a second chance. So we know Wilson's going to get a second chance somewhere else. And I think Trey is too. Trey is certainly too. And they should. I mean, you don't get to the end. You don't work your entire light, well, 10 years or whatever to get to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:26:40 You get there. It doesn't work and then you're done. Like, you've got to have a second chance. Go back to the last 20 years. There's always eight teams at the bottom of this league looking and crossing their fingers at quarterback. There's about eight teams, maybe fewer, that have a star. And then there's eight teams that are in chaos. And everybody else has got a Garapolo.
Starting point is 00:27:02 You know what I mean? Like a guy that can win Derek Carr. We like, you like a little more, a little less. But there's a very small group at the top, five or six with stars. And there's always a bottom. Somebody willing to roll the dice on a young kid that didn't work elsewhere. You know, Baker Mayfield with the Rams, there was a pulse. For like a game and a half.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Well, it was something. A pulse. They resuscitated the patient very briefly. All right, let's go to Von Miller. He's been out since that week 12 ACL last year. Sometimes I forget that they were missing him in the playoff game against Cincinnati. How big was he for the Rams in the playoffs? And that really hurt the bills last year.
Starting point is 00:27:43 So he's still on the Pupp list, and Von Miller wants to think about the big picture. Because he's getting up there in age, right, mid-30s? When it comes to his readiness, it doesn't sound like he's a lock to play in week one against the Jets. Here's Von Miller. I'm not just going to go out there to be a tough guy. that won't be smart. Year 13, I got four years left with my five years left on my deal. It just won't be smart just to go out there to be a tough guy. Like, when you see me out there, I'm ready to go.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I want to play, I want to play every game. And whenever I get to a point where I can play, where I'm feeling comfortable when I'm feeling like Vaughn, I'll be out there. It's a marathon, not a sprint, Vaughn. Take your time, buddy. No need to force things early. Come back, you know, I'm looking at the schedule. Let's see you miss the first four games. Jets, Raiders. Washington and Miami. Like Buffalo is probably going to go three and one, maybe four and over. You could laugh about this.
Starting point is 00:28:35 That would be a huge break for the Jets. Well, obviously, that's what I'm saying. If Vaughn Miller didn't play. They still have depth on that defensive line. They're very good. No, no, no, they are. But I mean, that's... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:47 So, I mean, like, you could sit them out, and then the Jacksonville game, it's somewhere internationally. And then, you know, you can miss that one. And they come back for the Giants or the Patriots. All right. This is the long game. Buffalo's a Super Bowl contender. I'm hearing.
Starting point is 00:29:00 This is a little NBA-ish. Hey, forget about early season. We're playing the long game, Chris Paul. Let's know me to... My sources say he's recovering very quickly. Yeah, you want to force Von Miller back? Is that what you want to be? You want to rush him back?
Starting point is 00:29:13 Maybe you should get Dion Dawkins back here. I don't need, with a 17-game schedule, I've thought about this before. I don't need my stars outside of quarterback. I don't need you to play 17 games. If I have a star rush end, I go in and say, listen, I'm going to give you a buy week, and then I'm going to give you, I've thought about this all the time. If I have an older player like Andrew Whitworth at the end or a Trent Williams or a Vaughn Miller, buy week comes, I'd have no problem saying we're going to make it a two-by.
Starting point is 00:29:39 You're going to get a buy and we're going to give you a week off. Now, with Trent Williams, you're protecting the quarterback. It's harder. But if I have a great older veteran defensive player, the buy week's week eight. I'll give you off week nine. You just cut the season and a half for the old guys. The only argument against that is in the AFC. there's pretty much three awesome teams.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Kansas City, Sinci, and Buffalo. If you're the one, you don't face either of the other two until the conference championship. So last year, Buffalo had to play Cincinnati, and if they win that,
Starting point is 00:30:09 then they had to go to Kansas City. That's really tough, you know, back to back. So you want that one seed. I hope I didn't just talk the bills into playing funnville early. I mean, honestly, if you're Buffalo, you have to get the number ones.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Listen, Buffalo's defensive front, as it currently stands could mall the Jets' Offensive line. No, it's top five in the league with depths. I mean, they got Phillips, Epinez. What did they do this off-season? Rousseau. They brought in somebody else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:37 They committed to the defensive line in the off-season. Now, I am curious. Remember, Leslie Frazier was there, the defensive coordinator, and we've talked about this a little bit, under the radar, like, why did he just up and leave? And now McDermott's calling the shots. We're going to keep the aggressiveness. Is there going to be any schematic changes? Something worth watching. Buffalo. It's a little granular, but
Starting point is 00:30:57 you know, we like to get nerdy. Final story, NFL Players Association released their top 50 player sales list like yesterday. The first list of 2023 tracked sales of officially licensed NFL player merchandise for March.
Starting point is 00:31:13 By a mile. March 1 to May 31. Patrick Mahomes was number one, followed by Rogers, Borough, Micah Parsons, and Travis Kelsey, rounding out the top 10. Jalen Hurts, Dack Josh Allen, C.D. Lamb, and T.J. Watt. So we got three Calpays in there.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I think Lamar would be in there if he played late. He disappeared. It says it was March through May, and I think Lamar was like questioning what was going to happen with him. You didn't sign. But interestingly, so Dallas, three guys in the top 10. Well, that's the power of the brand. That's the power of the brand. People want to say they're not America's team.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah, they're America's team. Kansas City with two. Nobody really surprises me. again, CD Lamb surprises me unless he was with the Cowboys. So whenever they have a star receiver, Michael Irvin was unbelievably huge as a player. So, I mean, when the Cowboys have the quarterback,
Starting point is 00:32:06 Staubach, Aikman, Tony Romo, Dach, you're going to be a top 10 jersey sale guy. Generally feels like to me. So outside of the Dallas players, only one NFC guy, Jalen Hertz. Heavy AFC flavor. AFCs just stacked. I'm trying to think who is missing.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Kirk Cousins? No, he's not a jersey guy. I'm kidding. Come on. I would say Lamar Jackson, if he didn't have all that kind of tenuous, am I playing, would be in the list over like a T.J. Watt, top ten. T.J. is great. Harold Wilson? No Bosa.
Starting point is 00:32:43 No Bosa? Which Bosa? Miles Garrett Bosa. T.J. Well, again, so there's a bunch of great edge rushers. T.J. Watt and Micah Parsons are in. why Steelers Cowboy brand. Miles Garrett's the best Russian in the world. He's not there.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Brown's brand is not nearly as big as the Cowboys or Steelers. And the bosses play on teams where like a lot of guys want a Herbert jersey. So they're probably splitting and not as high on the list. 49ers, Debo Samuel, Christian McCaffrey. Is there a nineer on that list? No. That just shows the depth of their roster. There's so many good dudes.
Starting point is 00:33:19 No, there's so many guys who, and they don't have a star quarterback. There you go. There you go. J-MAC with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. J-Mack, very interesting.
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Starting point is 00:36:01 by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Sunday morning. The U.S. moves on to the round of 16 at the 2003 FIFA Women's World Cup as they face their biggest challenge yet when they take on perennial arrival, Sweden. Coverage begins Sunday morning at 4 a.m. Eastern with kickoff at 5 a.m. Eastern on Fox and the Fox Sports app. I have said this about quarterbacks before, J-Mack.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Everything with young quarterbacks. Everything is something. Nothing's everything. Justin Fields, what do we make of him? I was very unhappy about two weeks ago when a guy that's 5 and 20 suddenly proclaimed, I'm one of the top five best running quarterbacks ever. Talk to the hand.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Don't do that. I know it was a goofy local podcast. Don't do that. You're 5 and 20. Self-awareness. Don't do that. And you're not, by the way. One of the top five running quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Got to win more than five at 25 games. Buddy's young. Young people make mistakes. So to old guys. But I've got some positive news. Receiver Darnell Mooney, who will be their number two. Nice young player.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Had this comment about Justin Fields at practice recently. within the playbook I mean there's no there's no confusion there at all he's just I know where I want to go with the ball I know where this play is designed for I know the covers that I want to get this done in and um even like during walkthroughs he's we'll do like a like two minute drill and he's calling the play to itself so that's something like he wasn't able to like do last year for sure that is something that is absolutely a positive year three that's That's when Mahomes and Russell Wilson said, the light goes on. Then Justin Fields, they had a bad practice on Monday. And listen to what Justin Fields did after. I think today in practice we came out probably a little flat. So I'm just talked to the guys after practice. Just, you know, every little thing that we do that, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:10 every little win that we have on the field, we just need to have energy about it because that energy is contagion. That's something. Flat practice goes out and addresses it with a team. I know you think it's ridiculous. Everything for young quarterbacks is something. You rolled your eyes when I said Baker Mayfield's weekly press conferences were bad, calling out medical staff, Duke Johnson a running back.
Starting point is 00:38:41 It did not play well in the room. We later found out OBJ didn't like him. Everything something. Darnell Mooney, dudes calling his own plays, didn't do it last year. Justin Fields had to call out the guys after a bad practice. Bucky Brooks talked about the quarterback position, a former scout for two teams yesterday. That position is presidential in field.
Starting point is 00:39:06 It's a regal position. There's a reason why U.S.C. Matt Ryan suited up in press conference. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, there's a feel that that guy outside of the owner of the, owner of the team, the gentleman and head coach, the quarterback is everything and he has to represent the franchise in that manner. So his maturity
Starting point is 00:39:26 has to be on point, his intelligence, his ability to talk and or rate and do all those things. It matters maturity, self-awareness. I'm a top five all-time running back. Well, I was just screwing off. Don't do that. Drip, drip, drip. Johnny Mandel,
Starting point is 00:39:45 Baker Mayfield, James Winston, drip, drip, drip, drip, wrong direction. So I had Justin Fields at 60-40. He's going to work. I cut it down to 55-45-45. So the very latest update on the confidence meter, I have moved it up, J-Mack, to 57.5% the Justin Fields meter. I don't want to see cocky and outspoken for young quarterbacks with bad records.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Leave it to defensive backs, wide receivers, Mike linebacker. Let other guys be cocky. Turn around, get to the mic, say the right stuff. You are viewed different. For years, I said this. I want my, this is why Trump is ridiculous to me. I want my presidents to be presidential.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I want my quarterbacks to be quarterbackial. Be a grown-up. I don't want you, Johnny Mansell flipping people off on the field. I don't want Drew Locke, the hipster on the sideline. Win games. You can dance all you want when you win Super Bowls and win games. When you got a losing record, when everything's in doubt, I don't want cocky, I don't want dancing around, self-awareness.
Starting point is 00:41:02 So very good last 48 hours for Justin Fields. Calling out teammates, that's what leaders do. Darnel Mooney, guys calling the plays. I'm going to be fair here. When you do something I think is goofy, I'll call you out. I called out Baker. I called out Justin. Jamal.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I called out Winston. James Winston. I called out Cam when I thought he was over the top. I called out Baker. I've called out Drew Locke before. If you have a losing record or you haven't proven anything, you are viewed differently in the corner office. So can I ask for some context in confidence meter?
Starting point is 00:41:44 Mahomes and Burrow would be like 100, right? Josh Allen 100. Okay. But 57 and a half. So where would a guy like a Mac Jones be in the confidence? Well, because he had a very good rookie year. I'm 7525. Oh. Yeah, I mean, Mac Jones succeeded when he had an offensive coordinator. Mac Jones is fine.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Mac Jones, rookie year numbers with no number one receiver, arguably no number two, no number one tight end. And a rigid defensive culture had very good Matt Ryan career numbers. I'm just trying to put the fields in content. 57 and a half. That means... Doesn't sound great, but it's better than 50-50. So like Brock Purdy has a whopping seven-win, seven-star.
Starting point is 00:42:25 So Brock Purdy is 60-40 because he's won eight games. Of the eight games he started and finished. I don't think he's a star. Could he pull back this year? Absolutely had an injury. People now have spent an off-season with Brock Purdy. All the coordinators going, he can't make that throw. He can't make that throw.
Starting point is 00:42:44 You know, all the guys confident, meter. All the guys that are stars in the league, that's 100%. Jalen Hertz is probably 90. I just want to see him one more. Trevor Lawrence is 90. Give me one more great year. I mean, Dak Prescott's is, they're good. I'm talking about this meter is for mostly young guys that I don't know the answer to yet. Like, let's take young guys right now. Okay, Daniel Jones. Can we go here? Well, I mean, he just got a contract. So we don't really have to judge him. I don't think he's a star, but he already got a contract. Let's talk just guys that don't have a contract. get that we don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Okay. He's not necessarily young, but Gino Smith has a long track record of mediocrity bad. So it doesn't matter. He got a contract. Well, if you look at the numbers, it's really a year-by-year deal, but it's like a hefty non-sum. I'm probably 65,
Starting point is 00:43:32 69, 68%. Well, I don't think he's going to have the same year, and I don't think, I think Seattle next draft is going to draft another quarterback. My guess, because they got everything else filled out. Seattle doesn't have a lot of holes. They could use another interior old lineman, although I think they address that.
Starting point is 00:43:48 They're going to go, Seattle's going to draft the quarterback next year. So I guess my meter is mostly for yet unpaid young quarterback. Jordan Love. Oh, I'd say it's, it's my feeling is it's 35%. So I got Justin Fields here on the, on the closer side to 60. I like that. And I maybe, I'm not going to watch the rest of the camp, but I remember I started at 60, pulled him back 55, moved up to 57 and a half percent.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Constantly evolving. Kenny Pickett in Pittsburgh. Oh, that's 75. Yeah, I'm at the end of the year. Now, again, don't think he has a big ceiling, but I think Kenny Pickett's proven he can win games. 75%. Can you even find a number for a guy like Sam Howell who has one start in Washington?
Starting point is 00:44:33 I have, my guess is 25%. I don't think he's half a Justin Fields talent. I like this confidence meter. This is good. Now, if you just keep the confidence meter, let's get it. Let's forget. homes and all its stuff. The confidence meter
Starting point is 00:44:46 is just for young quarterbacks yet to be paid. So Daniel Jones been paid. Gino's been paid twice. I'm talking young quarterbacks. Okay. Ready? Desmond Ritter in Atlanta. I would go 45, 45%.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I'm a lean, it won't work. That's a good one, though. I'd lean it won't work. So let's go through it. So Brock Purdy, I'm 62 because it has worked, although I think it could be a pullback year. The big one seems to be Mac Jones. If memory serves, you said about 70?
Starting point is 00:45:18 I would say I'm a, yeah, Mac Jones has not been paid yet. I'm 72 and a half percent. I saw his rookie year. I thought it was darn good. I've got two years, five and 20, and a 58% completion percentage for fields. Athletically, he's 90. Pocket stuff, he's 40. Like that's where, and self-awareness stuff, very encouraging last two days.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And can you even have a confidence meter for the incoming rookies, the Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud. Bryce Young, I would put it 65% today. I thought he was sight unseen in the NFL. Well, I think he was easily the best college quarterback. I talked to a coach and three GMs. They all said he's easily
Starting point is 00:45:58 the best prospect. I'd put C.J. Stroud at 52%. Got to see him play. But I do think his size and accuracy. Okay. Yeah, CJ Stroud is big and accurate. I'm on that it'll work. That's, so, so young, higher in confidence, despite
Starting point is 00:46:14 and not seeing and knowing his size, and Justin Fields 57.5. So under. If I would have never seen Justin Field, so what I've seen with Justin, I've seen two things. He's more athletic than I thought and less comfortable in the pocket than I thought. That's why I'm struggling. And he's been banged up. 57.5%. If he beats Green Bay, we're at 65%.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And he's home free. The meter has never failed at 65%. It's undefeated. I would have loved to have seen the meter for Mark. Sanchez when he went to the AFC title game of the Jetson's a rookie career. All right, hour two coming up on a Thursday. On the Look Back at it podcast.
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