The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - The Yankees are not good enough, NLDS is finally a series, Jared Goff is a future Hall of Famer

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Colin reacts to the New York Yankees' disappointing ALDS exit, breaking down what went wrong and what’s next for the storied franchise The Dodgers-Phillies NLDS is far from over He also makes a bold case for Detroit Lions quarterback Jared Goff as a future NFL Hall of Famer, backing it up with statsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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15 minutes of football talk all week, arguably on this show or any show. It's Greg CoSell, J-Mack. A team from Canada, oh, Canada, has eliminated your New York Yankees, and it was in fairly dominating fashion. And I know it's painful. 2-1 and then the error, you know, like, come on, it was closed. I don't know, dominate. Let's have a harsh talk.

This all be a therapist for the New York Yankees. Let's all sit down, take a deep breath, and admit the Yankees just aren't that good. They're good. They're not that good. Think about this. I looked it up this morning. If you take out the American League Central in the playoffs since 2009, the last world series, the Yankees are 3 and 10 against every other division in the playoffs.

Three and 10. Yeah, they're great against the middling payroll American League Central since that time, 8 and 2. Aaron, Judge is great. Garrett Cole and Max Fried, if they're healthy, what a one-two punch. I like Jazz Chisholm. I like him, don't love him. But they just got out hit by Toronto.

50 hits to 34. And the Js are the better fielding team. They strike out less. They get more hits, more contact hitters. They create more action. You know, the Yankees feel like an unbalanced diet. Too much protein. Not enough green.

Like all those weirdos on TikTok selling you and lecturing you on the carnivore diet. champ mix in a carrot. The Yankees are completely beholden this team is once Garrett Cole got hurt to home runs. Yeah, Stanton had seven last year in the playoffs. This year had none. It's a totally unbalanced baseball team. And to Aaron Judge is great, but last year it was all on Garrett Cole. When you took Garrett Cole out against the Dodgers, they looked like one of those American League Central teams against the Dodgers. This year, it's all on Aaron Judge because you don't have coal. And it's, I mean, again, you needed

Stanton and Judge to both be great. Aaron was John Carlos Stanton. Where's the deep ball? So, I mean, if you want to talk about balance and you can hit home runs and pay a lot of money and have balance, the Dodgers last year, Otani had a historic regular season, carried the Dodgers. And then Tommy Edmund,

National League Championship Series, MVP. And the World Series, it was Freddie Freeman. That's balance. Yankees have none. It's just completely unbalanced. And here's the other thing. This is probably the last run with these guys. It should be.

I mean, Aaron Judge, next year's going to be 34 in the season. Stanton's going to be 35. Garrett Cole's going to be 35 off an injury. So they need to get younger. They need to get more athletic and they need to turn radio off. I mean, it's not a coincidence that Seattle and Milwaukee and a lot of these media markets are really good right now. They don't react to the noise outside the building.

You mean, you take out, since they last won a World Series in 2009, they do not beat top-tier franchises. They beat the American League Central in the playoffs. Eight and two, they're great against the Central. But those teams don't have any money. The Dodgers spend it, but spend it smarter. The Cubs are spending it smarter. They're just running into Milwaukee.

So it's a little bit like the Pittsburgh's, Steelers. The brand is big. They do a lot of things well. They draft pretty well. But, you know, the Steelers, when do they beat elite quarterbacks in the playoffs? They don't. Ten years? They don't. When do the Yankees

beat good franchises in the playoffs? They're 0 and 4 against the Astros. Astros just fell apart this year physically. But again, who are you beating? Like, the Dodgers have their hands full with the Phillies. The Phillies are great. My guess is the Dodgers probably figure out a way to win one of the next two games.

But the Phillies are great and the Dodgers are great. And Milwaukee is really, really good. Toronto's excellent. They do a lot of things well. What do the Yankees do well? So, I mean, this is Aaron Judge on this. Their stars are old. Garrett Cole, Stanton, Aaron Judge.

I mean, you got to start moving some pieces, do you not? Here's Aaron after. I think once again it comes down to the little things making the little plays come with a big hit if you don't do that give teams extra outs they're going to capitalize on it

for us we got to we got to clean a couple things up and we'll be right back here the other thing is this is it's like an annual tradition it is so predictable is that you know the giants and the Jets and the NICs

and the Nets and the Mets They're always just moving pieces left and right and firing GMs and firing coaches. And the knock in New York is they're too patient. Brian Cashman need to relieve him. Why don't they have more good players? Well, analytics and baseball, the guys upstairs are making a lot of the calls. So let's blame the manager. But the truth is Aaron Boone, I don't know how much power he has.

I mean, I'm listening to Derek Jeter after that loss last night. Talk about the current state of the New York Yankees and Aaron Boone. and I think there is a lot of truth in what Derek Jeter said. What's tough is for the Yankee fans, right? This is the second year in a row that they've watched another team celebrate on their home field. And you can feel the frustration. Aaron did a good job. I mean, look, he's working with what he has to work with,

and he sticks up for his players. I know he takes a lot of heat. But, look, I'm not saying it from any inside knowledge, but I'm pretty sure Aaron's not the one that's calling every move that they make throughout the game. Go look at the salaries of Major League Baseball managers. They make about half of what a college football coach makes. There's a reason. They've been marginalized.

They don't matter, right? So they have to be pro player to keep their jobs. You don't want to disrupt the locker room. Players have never made more money, three, four, five hundred million. So you can blame Aaron Boone. But I look at this team and I just see an unbalanced diet. not enough greens. Home run dependent.

Last year, Garrett Cole, dependent. The truth is when Garrett Cole got hurt before the season, I think we talked about it on the show, you're not a World Series team. But it's more than that. It's the average base running. They're not athletic enough. They're not a great fielding team.

They don't sacrifice. They strike out too much. Let's be honest, Toronto dominated them. The Toronto Blue Jays weren't just better than the Yankees. They are a lot better than the Yankees. They don't strike out as much. more contact guys, they get on base more, and their pitching was better. All right, so there's a couple of stories on Bill Belichick yesterday after our show.

One story says, and there are those disputing it, is that North Carolina and Belichick are already working on a buyout. So the person who's stating that isn't a big name, doesn't work at a big company. I don't know how realistic it is, but I thought about this yesterday when I heard it. If I said, give me four or five words that explain the NFL, you'd say Shield, corporate, professional, business, kind of cutthroat. If I said five or six words that explain college football, pageantry, bands, alumni, donors, fun, which one does it sound like Bill Belichick would fit in? I've thought this, from the beginning, I thought it was a bit of a money grab. He showed no interest in college football.

None. None. I mean, look at his draft the last seven years in New England. He clearly doesn't watch the sport until he has to at the Senior Bowl, but he's a do-your-job, bottom-line guy, and that's what not college football's not. College football, when you win, sometimes you've got to dance with the players. It's not about culture. Sometimes you've got to dance with the players. You can look at Nick Saban and go, oh, he's harsh.

Nick Sabin's charming and can be funny. You watch him on television. Nick's great. He's funny. He's charming. He's a great story. tell her. I mean, the whole thing is felt weird.

Like the Jordan Hudson relationship doesn't bother me to each their own. But, I mean, she's kind of the age of some of the players maybe, to parents, administrators. There's an ick factor. And recently, Carolina had a buy. Bill goes to Nantucket with his girlfriend. That's not what Dan Lannings doing. He's on the phone to recruits. Nick Sabin, the day after winning a national championship, is on the recruiting trail.

So you've got to be totally committed to college football, and it's a different vibe totally. Sometimes you've got to dance with the players. And Mike Lombardi, the GM, again, he's not your warm uncle. You know, that's just not his personality. And that's okay. Bill's a pro guy. Mike's a pro guy. That's who they are.

So I think a lot of times I talk about this all the time. Fit happens, right? And fit matters. And, you know, he comes out with a book and Chapel Bill. and Bill had bills. The NFL said no thanks, and Bill's got bills to pay. He's got the Florida house,

the Nantucket Place, the boats, the lifestyle, and he's not flying Southwest Airlines. And Bill's like, oh, I'll take it. But from the very beginning, I was suspicious about the buyout. Didn't you guys think that was crazy?

Bill and his agent negotiated a very, very small buyout. Meaning if Bill got a job within a year, he could leave. Buyouts nothing. So I don't know which story, is true. It's not going well. It's going sideways. It's circling the drain. But to be great in college football, it's a lot of things. And it's a, it's sometimes it is connective tissue with

players and parents. And I said when Bill got this job, I said, do you really think Bill's going to be going to volleyball matches cheering on that? Well, that's what you got to do in college. Sometimes you got to go watch the softball team and go drive. And go, by the volleyball coach's office and call and deal with parents and say hi to the administrators. Let's go grab a cocktail tonight. That's part of college football. College football is more fun than the NFL. The NFL is just better, better coaching, more professional, better quarterback play.

It's professional sports, which is always better than college sports. And, you know, it's just run better. Big cities, big brands, a lot of money. But college football is awesome. but it's a bit more joyful and fun. Do those two words? Sound like Bill Belichick? So we'll keep you updated on that story.

Some are disputing that the buyouts happening. I don't have any insight to North Carolina football. I was actually at a place last night. I'm not going to give you the specifics. But first person I saw is a big, big Carolina, I would just say, supporter. I was a business person I know, very sharp, former player. And he was on the field against Clemson.

I said, what was it like? He said, we were beat before that thing started. No energy, no juice. College football is about running out of the tunnel. Miami, the smoke's coming out, the fight song, the rock in Clemson. And coming out of the tunnel is a big deal in college football. no juice, no energy. And at this point, no shot in Carolina for Belichick.

So, Jemak, I want you to turn that frown upside down in the Yankees. Wait, wait, you bury the lead. You're hanging out on Michael Jordan last night. Big donor on the sideline for the Clemson game. Oh, good stuff, Cowher. Yeah, listen, Yankees, tough loss. We move on. We'll be back next year when 90 games, right back in the thick of things.

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None of the Bull. Philly is at Dodgers Stadium. Hammered the Dodgers last night. Listen, they won 96 games. The Phillies are really good. Second best in baseball. You got Bryce Harper. He's going to be a Hall of Famer. Kyle Schwaber, who is just money, great power hitter, always good in the playoffs, and then Trey Turner.

Excellent starting staff, top 10 team ERA. So they were going to bust out. And Kyle Swarber took out his frustration. Here's his home run over the pavilion. Watch and listen to this. He's from the right side. That ball's crossed. Deep to right field.

Hernandez doesn't even move. It is long gone. It's off the roof of the pavilion in right field. Kyle Swarber. His first post-season home run of the year. It's his 22nd of his career. And with a lightning strike, the Phillies tie it up at one. Yeah, that ball's reportedly somewhere in Pasadena.

So in the first two games, the Phillies, which have power and they get on base, a lot of hits, batted 203. They are much closer to what you watched last night. Schwarber, big-time power hitter delivers in the playoffs. You have a trade turners, you're batting champ in the National League. Bryce Harper is Bryce Harper, first ballot Hall of Famer. So the team you saw last night from Philadelphia, that's closer to the team. And tonight they've got their best pitcher, Christopher Sanchez. One of their aces is going.

So we have ourselves a series. And the Dodgers also didn't get anything, you know, near the top of the order. Between De O'Sker-Hernandez and Otani and Freddie Freeman, they went 0 for 12. That can't happen. but when you watch that game last night, the Phillies do that a lot to a lot of teams. And you got a 50-plus home run guy and a National League batting champ

and a great team ERA, and then Bryce Harper adds in a couple of hits. That's what they looked like all year. I thought Philadelphia would win this series because I didn't think the eighth inning last night is what I thought we would see a lot of in this series. A little bit of batting practice, the elite hitting,

especially at the top of the order against the Dodger bullpen. So it's a real series now. You know, the Dodgers have more overall talent, but Philadelphia can punish you in a lot of ways, and they get good starting pitching. Bullpen can be susceptible. You know, welcome to the sport outside of a few teams like Milwaukee. But I think we have a series, and Kyle Schwerber hit a couple of them, and that's what he does.

J-MAC with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herd Line News. Let's get started, Colin, with the Cubs exploding for four in the first inning in game three yesterday. Against the Brewers that were able to hold on for a four-three win to extend the NLDS. This is kind of mind-boggling. The four runs broke Chicago's 13-game playoff streak with three runs or fewer scored.

That's futility. Well, listen, Milwaukee got loaded the bases in like the eighth inning. So you can feed Milwaukee's the better team. And you can say all you want about this. But Milwaukee almost won this puppy despite falling into a 4-0 hole. So Milwaukee led the National League in hits. They get on base. They can hit for average contact.

So Milwaukee puts a ton of pressure on Chicago. There's always it feels like runners on base and in scoring position. So this feels like it feels like the Toronto series of the Yankees. When you put that many people on base, somebody's going to deliver for the Blue Jays. and I think Milwaukee's one of those teams is they put so much pressure on your pitching staff and your manager that eventually the Dyke breaks, they loaded them in the eighth inning,

the Cubs hold on, but this feels like we're looking at a much better Milwaukee team top to bottom. The Cubs manager, Craig Counsel, joked he was going to tell his team every inning was the first inning for game four. Yeah. So overall, I mean, you like the Brewer still. I think they're going to win the World Series.

I think Toronto is really good. I think the Mariners are going to be interesting. But if you start looking, the Cubs outside of the first inning, they're not doing. They're not putting anybody on base. And Milwaukee is. Let's move on to the Philadelphia Eagles, Colin. They got the Giants tonight in Thursday night football.

The offense off to a slow start for sure. Not to Sequin Barclay. A.J. Brown, both of them really on the struggle bus. Sequin was asked about the offensive struggles. Take a listen. So Tom, it just doesn't hit off right away. I know hasn't shown, you know, a consistent way throughout the first five games, but there's been sparks.

There's been halves where we look in touchable. But there's been halves where we look really bad. So we've got to find a way to be more consistent in that area. And that's starting out with our details, being more detailed, make sure we're all on the same age and making the playwork. You know, you think to yourself, okay, the eagle's going to roll. But it is in New York. Philadelphia has horrible, horrible offensive halves.

And the Giants are off an embarrassing loss to the Saints. So the truth is it'll probably be an ugly low-scoring game and the Eagles will win. You look at this, this is not college. You look at these games and go, oh, seven points. First of all, they're division rivals, so they know each other's personnel. Brian Daubles faced the Eagles multiple times. hasn't done a lot against him. He hasn't done a lot against him, but Jackson Darts, just a new player and there's a little bit, you know, kind of a new vibe. What was shocking last week,

and this is virtually impossible to do, the Giants had a turnover on five straight possessions. Well, rookie quarterback, you know, and it was against the Saints, which is even worse. So one of the things I looked at last week that helped me with the five-in-one in headlines was how quarterbacks have fared against zone or man. The Giants are playing a lot of man defense. Well, guess who eats up, man, A.J. Brown. So I know that A.J. Brown, they had the closed-door meeting this week. I would not be surprised if he had, like, eight for a buck-15 tonight against the Giants. I think the Eagles roll tonight.

Low-scoring, you're probably on to something. Abdul Carter, we don't know if he's going to play or not. The young guy at a Penn State for the Giants. We'll see about that. No Landon Dickerson Interior lineman for the Eagles. But I think we both like Eagles, but you're not touching the spread, huh? Not touching it. I mean, if it ended up being 2417 and Philadelphia was clearly better, would you be shocked?

No, that seems about right. Get out of there, no injuries. That's right. Yeah. All right. Final story, Colin, the Green Bay Packers, their offense is averaging 26 points a game, tops in the league in third down efficiency. But Jordan Love told the media recently he still thinks there's room to grow.

He pointed to his own mistakes. He had the strip sack against Dallas. He had the bad interception against the Browns. I don't know. What do you think about Jordan Love? I think it's interesting that there's so many skeptics on Jordan Love. If you go back to week 10 of last year to today, his numbers are unbelievable. Why is everybody doubting it works?

It works. He's good. He's very good. Okay. That's fine. Very good. Has he been a top 10 quarterback in the league this season? I don't think, I mean, there's Sam Donald's playing way better than.

Again. Jack Prescott. It doesn't, man. That's just a construct. Top 10 quarterback, he's been very good. He's been good enough to get you to a Super Bowl. go back to week 10 of last year. I think it's week 10 or week 12.

And you look at his numbers until today. He's an A quarterback. He may be A minus. He can be, you know, he's a one of these guys that he's got a little bit of a Sam Darnold Baker thing. Like, he's going to let it rip. Yeah. And he's not going to lose any sleep if he throws an interception. He's not going to be protective or safe.

And so, you know, but I think about this. If you are anywhere, B plus plus to A minus, you mostly got your quarterback. And I don't think you can even dispute it. He is somewhere in that space. I would say he's not quite the elite five, but he's very close to the rest. He's very good. The problem is when you're in the NFC playoffs, you're going to be going up against Jalen Hertz. Matthew Stafford, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold.

I trust those guys in a big spot. I don't know that I'm there yet. Matt Stafford gets hurt a lot. The Rams running backs have ball security issues. Sam Darnold, where his playoff wins. and I like him too. I've got a veteran coach. I've got unbelievable weapons.

Finally, an edge pass rush. If Green Bay, if I had to bet somebody in the NFC championship, today if I had to bet, Green Bay is as good as bet as that conference has. So they got the Bengals. Oh, yeah, their schedule. Let's start looking at their schedule. Favor by 14.

Now I know on the principal. What is their schedule going forward? Have you seen it? I think it's favorable. You know, you got a lot of giants on there. It's favorable. Carolina, Jake Browning this weekend. Oh, I'm sorry, Joe Flacco this weekend, which is even easy.

Just let's, just for the audience, let's name the quarterbacks. Okay. Going forward that they're going to play. Flacko. Kyler Murray, 41-year-old Aaron Rogers. Bryce Young. Jalen Hurts in a massively struggling offense. Jackson Dart, whoever Minnesota starts.

That's a six, seven game sled of double. use. Green Bay is, by the way, Green Bay opened. Pretty interesting team. Dallas, which is really good offensively. Detroit's got great personnel. So it's like that. We don't know Baltimore, late week 17, are they going to be playing for something? We don't know. Just don't forget what Green Bay did to Washington and Jaden Daniels in week two. Ran them off the field. Washington just beat the Chargers. So the one big difference is getting that number one seat. The Niners are four and one. They're going to going to be healthy soon. If Green Bay gets it, then the 49ers have to go to Lambo possibly

from NFC. That's huge versus being at home out here in sunny or foggy San Francisco. J-Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. So I would term Baker-Mayfield's relationship with me that we're frenemies. Is that if I saw him, I would be like, hey, what are you doing? And he'd be like, hey, good, how you doing? And then we go our separate way. I think I like him more than he likes me, but I've talked about him a lot. So, Baker Mayfield, I swear he listens to her show.

Yesterday, or a couple days ago, he's talking about, about, you know, the critics, yeah, I wonder who that is, the critics who say he's a little bit of a changed man. I told you guys I try and not get too high, not get too low,

which is something that I was not doing early on in my career. But, you know, early on in my career, yeah, it's looked as cocky, immature. Now it's Moxie. He's a dog. Same, different day. As long as you play well, they change the narrative, but you've got to be yourself,

and I've always been like that. Okay, first of all, Baker Mayfield's too smart to not get wiser as he ages. He's a wiser version of Baker. Now, I do think, and I've said this multiple times, Baker's mostly still Baker. He's a smarter version, a little wiser,

because he's too smart not to be. We all grow and get smarter. I mean, that's just dumb guys don't get smarter. Still banging their head on the wall at 45. Baker's smart. And so the difference is the environment. Cleveland is cold, impulsive owner, bitter because of all the losing

and not really a supportive media. Tampa's got a better infrastructure, better owners, great GM. They're inviting. Cleveland felt like they were poking them in the ribs. Tampa feels like they open every door from him. Office door, car door. They're just opening doors.

from Hugh Jackson, a little bit of ego to Todd Bulls, no ego. So it doesn't feel like he's battling. He felt like he was constantly under siege and battling. So I don't buy this. It's like, I'll give you an example. People that are fiery and intense, take Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan's fire didn't work early or late. I mean, he scored a bunch of points, but he didn't win a lot.

Early Chicago, late, Washington. You know where Michael won when he had the intellect of Steve Kerr next to him, and then the Zen master, the psychologist and Phil Jackson, and kind of a chill Robin, Scotty Pippen, veterans, BJ Armstrong, super smart, Horace Grant. Michael scored a lot of points early and late, but his intensity wore people out early and late. It wasn't until he got the right supporting cast that he scored and won games. because Michael's intimidating and Michael's intense.

And that's the truth about people with big, fiery, confident personalities. Fit becomes essential. And Cleveland was kind of intimidated by it, didn't know what to do with it. And Tampa's like, we're looking for a pirate. It's Ebor City. It's cocktails early. They've always had talent. They don't have a meddling owner.

Tampa's a great fit. Tampa empowers. his personality. It felt like Cleveland was intimidated by it and poked at it. So Baker hasn't changed that much. He's changed a little bit. He's too smart not to have changed. And he's always going to have fired.

That's his personality. I mean, I thought it was great in Seattle when he was talking trash. He was talking trash to all these fans. Baker's going to do that as a grandpa. It his sons and his grandkids, you know, pee-wee games. who Baker is. That's his personality. He's an S-talker. And that's great. And after he won the game, he went back

to those people to talk trash. He put it on his Instagram. That's who Baker is. But he's a little wiser. And when you have that kind of personality, support. Support becomes the people around you, the surrounding environment becomes incredibly important.

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Like, like, and I, yesterday I said, Jared Goff has had seven coordinators. He's been really good with six of them. The first was a disaster. The whole staff was. And I said, Jared Goff is absolutely going to be a Hall of Famer. Guy is still in his prime. Jared Goff does not get hurt, despite his kind of tall and lanky frame. I would say he's got at least because his strength is throwing the football.

And quarterbacks can throw the football. Drew Bledsoe could grab a football to do. and throw a 35 yard out. They lose their legs. So Jared Goff has got four to five years of prime left because he throws, he's like Steph Curry. Steph will be able to shoot when he's 50. He'll just lose his legs.

Gauph's a thrower. And so, but when I said this yesterday, he's a first ballot hall famer, people just freaked out. So since 2017, eight years is a pretty big span with seven coordinators, number one in the league, in completions, passing yards, in big pass plays, number two in passing touchdowns, and wins.

Five playoff appearances, two conference championships. Again, he's still in his prime. But the two reasons why Pete, I mean, it's so obvious. If he was a flashy player, you would all have him in the Hall of Fame, but he's not. So there's an aesthetic here. He's kind of boring. But if you think about why doesn't everybody get Jared Goff? Number one is, first impressions matter, and his first season was brutal.

0 for 7. McVeigh wasn't there yet. He looked like a complete bust. He didn't know which direction the sunset. Remember that? You got to see it on hard knocks. So you watch this disaster. First impressions are really powerful. And the second reason you're all struggling with it is Matt Stafford won a Super Bowl, the first year in L.A. McVeigh punted on golf. First impressions are really powerful. Matt Stafford's first year. in LA. Jared Goff's first year. Powerful moments. Let me remind you, Goff was a number one pick and Stafford was a number one pick. Okay. And people forget this. The Rams wanted a reboot at quarterback. So did the Lions. Brad Holmes is the least talked about great personnel guy in the last 10 years in this league. He does not miss on his top picks in the the draft. The GM. He does not miss on trades. Brad Holmes is great. What was his first move? To move off Stafford and to go get Gough. So the big game hunting GM in Detroit's like, yeah, I'll take Gough and the Rams will pay some of the salary. He's turned those picks with Gough into

home runs like Jamir Gibbs. But I think people forget that it's not linear. Jeter, Kobe, Elway. That's storybook. That doesn't happen much. One team. All those memories. Loyal forever. Brady? Belichick wanted about two years before he went to Tampa. Montana ends with the Chiefs. Payton Manning ends with Denver. LeBron's had three separate moves. That's typical. Jeter, Kobe, and Elway, that's storybook. That stuff doesn't happen.

Michael Jordan, his early teammates and coaches didn't like him, and they couldn't stand in Washington. He got Phil. It all worked. So here's the other thing to remember. that Goff went to a total rebuild in Detroit and Stafford went to McVeigh, Andrew Whitworth, Cooper Cop, Von Miller. Yet, since the trade, look at the numbers between Goff and Stafford,

and I love Stafford. Goff's better at everything. Wins, yards, touchdowns, fewer picks, pass-a-rating. And that includes the rebrands, build years in Detroit. Stafford took over, baked, ready to pull out of the oven, and consume. And Goff's numbers are still better. And we think the Rams know what they're doing.

So the Rams were better initially, had kind of a quasi-one-year rebuild, hit on a bunch of defensive draft picks. Now, Stafford's had the better defense, I would say, on average. Goffs had to me, I mean, they both had great receivers. Amaran St. Brown, Puka, Cooper Cup, now Devonthe Adams. They both had good skill people. Both have good running backs. But if you look at the numbers since the trade, and that includes Goff having to go through a two-year rebuild, Goff's numbers are better across the board. But I think it just first impressions are incredibly powerful. And that first year, 0 and 7, and it was on hard knocks, and then the Rams punt Goff, and then Stafford comes in and win, people just, They can't, like, put their arms around it. If Jared Goff had a little wiggle in his step, if he moved, I'm not saying like Lamar Jackson or Kyler Murray, but if he moved like even Bo Knicks, everybody would be like, oh, yeah, it's a Hall of Famer.

Goff is the last pure pocket guy we have drafted as a number one pick. It's interesting how it works. I mean, Caleb Williams, I think it's fair to say, has struggled with basic operations. operations with the bears. And people are like, they always lean to the positive. I like what I see. It is getting very interesting. Gough's not as much fun to watch.

The guy is second and wins, first and everything else. Everybody's like, I just don't see it. I've said this about Russell Westbrook. Russell Westbrook, you can't take your eyes off him. He's so hyper-athletic. But he is a guard that can't shoot. Right? Like John Stockton, kind of boring.

Could shoot. and did a lot of dirty work. But Stockton wasn't as much fun to watch. And that's just a lot of it. Goff is still in his prime. And because he is not like an NBA shooter, he's going to age well. Jared Goff's going to age well. He's got a great GM.

They're always going to have good players around him. Amaran St. Brown Prime. Panasul Prime. They just drafted Interior linemen. Two of them look really good. Jay Mack, what are your friends texting now? No, no, I didn't look at my phone. I was trying to come up with a comp for Goff because you think he's such a lock.

So I think the best I can come up with is Philip Rivers. Really, really good quarterback, great regular season numbers, longevity. I mean, he played 17 seasons. How many conference championships? No MVP's. Yeah. No Super Bowl appearances. But he had a five and seven playoff record.

Goff is four and five currently. So, I mean, Goff is on track. But golf is having much more postseason success. I mean, four and five versus five and seven. No, but I mean, he's on track to have. To conference championships. Yeah, that's, okay. Well, that's, you know, it's like Andy Reid was great before Kansas City.

But do you think Rivers is a lock? No, I don't think. Okay, so do you think golf, like, is that much better than Philip Rivers? Like, I, I, I, I, I, don't know those are impressive. It's not about who's better. It's about, it, a lot of its productivity. And if you go eight years into Philip Rivers' career, did he have the most wins in the league? Did he have the most big plays in the league?

I mean, Philip was great. No, you'll never argue, you know, I'll never bang on Philip Rivers. I loved Philip Rivers game. He wasn't very athletic, less athletic than golf, actually. Yeah. But at the end, especially. But when you start putting up these numbers, you know, it's just, it's a classic example. If you keep succeeding, like anybody, I mean, let's be honest.

A lot of Powerball winners either go broke or lose a majority of the money. Right. Some people do get like a great hand in life. They get rich parents, their trust fund kids. But to me, it's always been about what do you do with it? Like, what do you do if you, let's say tomorrow you win the Powerball at L.A. So you get about five of it. Can you turn the five into 25?

Most people can't. I could. They turn to five into one. Right? Or less than that. So my point is, yeah, Jared Goff got McVey and Andrew Whitworth. Okay, it was a great break, and he got to a Super Bowl. And then he got a great GM.

But they were awful when he got there, and he keeps winning. Yeah. The best case for golf is, man, he got kicked to the curb by McVeigh. Right? That was harsh. He went to a Super Bowl. And he didn't give up or throw in the towel or stink. He kind of thrived.

And I think that's great. I just, to me, it's a little reach to say Hall of Fame. I definitely am a fan. I think he's been outstanding. He's got a little work to do. Ask you this. Detroit gets to a Super Bowl. Jared Goff was still five years of prime

will be to two Super Bowls. That's pretty good. Yeah. I mean, Russell Wilson only got to... Okay, but again, Russell's a prime example. Yes, that's why I brought him up. Let's go back to the beginning of my argument. Who did Russell succeed with?

Kind of one group of players. By the end, Pete wanted about, Tomlin wanted him out, Payton wanted him out, and Dayball's not interested. So Russell had, like Goff, this really good run, but did he succeed with multiple people?

And that's the start of this rant. Part of what makes golf great is seven coordinators and six he's crushed with. What hurts Russell Wilson is he struggled in Denver, did not. It butted heads with Peyton. Struggles, nice. Then he was in Pittsburgh that, you know, lasted a year. Now he's in the Giants. He's been benched before September was finished.

If you're close, like one of the arguments for Philip Rivers, it actually helps him in this way when he was at his oldest and the least athletic quarterback in the league and he was and Philip would at first to admit it he goes to Indianapolis goes 11 and 5 goes to Buffalo for a playoff game

and they were in that thing covered the spread I remember so Philip Rivers old Philip got out a comfortable went to re kind of rebuilding Indianapolis the roster indie had then is not nearly as good as the roster now for Daniel Jones this roster now in Indy is legit top 10

seven roster. That wasn't. 11 and 5, go to Buffalo, toe to toe to with Josh Allen. And I remember that game. You're like, this is a real game. And that was when Buffalo was at the height of their powers. So how you end when your borderline matters.

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