The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 1 - Thoughts on Jaguars-Saints

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

Colin talks about the Jaguars win over the Saints on Thursday Night Football and what Trevor Lawrence's performance tells us about playoff bound teams in the NFL He breaks down the latest allegations made against Jim Harbaugh and Michigan football and why this is rooted in jealously given Harbaugh's recent success. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It is a Friday live in Los Angeles. It's the hurt. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. One hour from now, blazing five, very excited about our Friday picks. J-MAC, after the show yesterday, a little workout, started digging. mile deep on NFL picks. I really like these.

Really like my picks this week, one hour from now. How about you? Let's hope they go better than Saints against the Jacks last night. Well, Trevor played. Yeah, but still, Saints. What are we doing in the Red Zone? Like, we know Red Zone woes are ailing teams, but the Saints, 22 plays in the Red Zone last night.

Can't score touchdowns. Come on. Well, I was thinking about this. The New York Giants and the New York Jets, I like both the GMs a lot. I like both the coaches a lot. One team may have the best corner in the NFL. One of the emerging stars at wide receiver, star running back.

New York Jets. Giants have one of the great young rush ends. Star running back. Great left tackle. There's good players on both the Jets and the Giants. Good coaches, good GMs, valuable. I mean, the positions. Running back, left tackle, corner, rush end.

And over the last couple of years, they're not very good. Why? Last night's proof. You get the quarterback right. It erases all the mess. Get it wrong, overpay. You lose games at home. You should win.

Trevor Lawrence is what everybody's looking for in this league. Bad knee did not practice. On the road, there was one great defense in that game last night. It's the one he faced. And what did Trevor Lawrence deliver? Not practicing. Bad knee. 20 of 29, a touchdown no picks. Key 60 yards rushing. A couple of huge runs at the right time. Leadership, not yelling at everybody on his team. Six different targets, not dependent on any singular player. And then there's Derek Carr, who apparently was blaming everybody not named Derek Carr, yelling at receivers, yelling at coaches.

totally dependent on Alvin Kamara's rushing and receiving. Totally dependent on him. At home, better defense. Alave, Michael Thomas, Alvin Kamara. It's a better roster. At home. One great drive. That's it.

Last night is precisely why. Six of the eight divisions are led by the best quarterback. And Miami and Buffalo, two elites by a game. but Josh Allen and Tua played. It was a total mismatch. Josh Allen, much better than Tua, because he's a much better player. And my guess is they'll eventually win the division. If they meet again, Buffalo will once again beat Miami again because they can't stop

Josh Allen and Buffalo tends to stop Tua. The only division where the best quarterback doesn't lead NFC West, and that's because the Rams and Matt Stafford are in a rebuild. Otherwise, it's your Josh Allen's Tua's, Lamar Jackson, Trevor Lawrence, Mahalms, Jalen Hertz, Jared Gough, and Baker Mayfield. And yes, Baker Mayfield is better than Derek Carr. I argued it yesterday. He's better than Derek Carr. You can screw up in this league all day long.

I'll give you an example. And I don't know if it classifies as a screw-up, but it certainly was a lot of money, and the Rams didn't want to do this. Remember when they gave Jared Goff the bag? It was in 2019, and the contract wasn't even going to start until 2021. And when the Rams traded to Goff to the Detroit Lions, it was before the 2021 season. His contract hadn't even kicked in. So they had to pay Goff a fortune to go play for another team and then had to pay Matt Stafford on their team.

And they gave up draft capital. And they won the Super Bowl for. year because they had Matt Stafford with a great offensive coach. Last night was your classic go-either-way game. I mean, we'd all admit until the very end. It was ugly and boring. But the superior quarterback, a couple of big passes, big running plays, great leadership, bad knee, didn't practice on the road, made it happen.

The other quarterback, a pick-six, dependent overwhelmingly, despite the fact he has weapons everywhere on one guy. Alvin Kamara. Doug Peterson, who's a happy guy, he's got a franchise quarterback, even when he doesn't practice, even when it's a game time decision, he was the difference. On Monday, I would have told you that he was not playing in this football game on Monday. But that's not who Trevor is. And again, proud of his effort, you know, the ability to, you know, escape the pocket and run.

Fortunately, they were straight ahead runs. He didn't have to cut too much. but yeah a lot of a lot of gutsy performances out there and and his is his is probably the number one all right so they're all out the pitchforks are all out to get jim harbaw Michigan plays michigan state this weekend the nc.A is investigating michigan over sign stealing allegations and according to the athletic Michigan state was considering not playing in the game. Get this.

Over the health and safety of its players. Oh, like Michigan State can take the high road on anything. Sign stealing for the record is not technically prohibited unless you use like electrical equipment. Michigan sent an in-person low-level staffer, read intern, to watch the other team and see if they could, you know, like in baseball, figure out some signs. Apparently that is illegal, although it should be noted. It was legal up until 1994.

And they didn't put it in because they thought it was a massive advantage. They put it in because the lower level programs complained, we can't afford to have a low-level staffer go to other games. Basically, they have a Mercedes and we can't afford one. They're bad people. Nobody's winning and losing games. Michigan's a three to four touchdown favorite again this weekend because of a low-level staffer figuring out your bat signals.

That's why coaches do this during games. They hide signals. You can watch it on TV. Teams have been doing that forever. So Michigan State right now, football, is a bit of a tire fire. So it's classic David Copperfield. Look over to your right. over to the left, you know, you got the pigeon, the penny, whatever it is.

So Michigan State also leaked this story to the athletic so that it would read, almost canceled the game. Oh, God, get over yourself, Michigan State. This, to me, is a badge of honor for Michigan. They have not only separated from the conference, PJ Flex saying earlier this year, this is the best team I've ever faced in college football 15 years of coaching. They've separated from Ohio State. They have worked the bucket.

guys the last two years. And their in-state rival, which is between the Mel Tucker situation, here comes Washington better program, here comes Oregon better program, here comes USC better program, Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan, all better programs, is getting a little insecure. Basically, Michigan football sent an intern to opponent's games to see if they could get some, you know, defensive signals. It is illegal. Yeah, so was that hamburger that, um, on campus that Harbaugh apparently got somebody. This is all envy and nonsense. Now, I know what you're saying.

Colin Fox, Big Ten. No. No. I didn't defend Mel Tucker. I didn't defend Michigan State. I have not, through the years, defended the PAC 12, the conference I grew up when it disbanded. I wasn't there ringing the bell for the PAC 12.

I said, sorry, it's a declining conference. Having a good year declining conference. I don't do that. I've been defending Harbaugh because Harbaugh. Harbaugh is different and unique and successful. And you see this all the time in industries. When somebody in their industry pulls away from everybody else and make no doubt, Michigan is rolling over people, humiliating people, embarrassing people,

taking some of that Michigan economy from one side to the other, and they already got more of it. It's embarrassing for Michigan State. Listen, slap on the hand, I don't have a problem. But the fact that Michigan State is over-dramatizing this and saying, saying we were going to cancel this thing. The safety and health of our players. Oh, Lord.

It's like SpyGate. Tom Brady, Deflategate, Spidegate. They were winning before it and after it. You understand Deflategate and we monitored it on this show. When I had this show, I'm not sure if I was here or the other place. Deflate Gate, Brady was better after Deflategate. It had zero impact on Tom Brady. Zero.

I'm not saying that because he's coming to work at Fox. I said it a thousand times at the other place, I believe, and here. It didn't matter. Brady was better after it. This stuff doesn't matter. College football is about personality and coaching and recruiting. That's it. It's 70% of this sport getting really good players.

And Michigan is on pace to have more players drafted than any university in the history of the draft. And they're pulling away from everybody, including Ohio State. And they're hard to pull away from. and everybody now, it's amazing what fear and envy do. Joel Clatt this week on how Harbaugh has built a Michigan team that's as good as it's ever been in its school's history. Jim has built a great program, and he's done it in a unique way,

in a day and age in which the sport is built around offense and tempo and volume. He's gone the opposite direction and built his program about culture and toughness and power. This is his deepest team that he's ever had. I will not be shocked if Michigan breaks the record of players drafted in one single draft next spring. I am in no way saying what he did is right. But folks, this stuff's happening every weekend. Stealing signals, getting information on the Internet, calling sources. This stuff is, I mean, this is.

This is the peanuts on an airplane, right? It's not the engine. It's not the pilots. It's not the crew. It's not the engine. It's not. It's the peanuts on the airplane. You didn't get them this time.

Maybe you get a biscuit. Maybe this flight's too bumpy. You don't get served. It's not a biggie. All fired up to you. I don't know if it's as cut and dry as you're making it. Yesterday I was 100% with you on Harbaugh, but I think I'm going to wait for a little more information here.

I have a lot of information. You do. Okay. All right. Reading a report that allegedly this guy, Harbaugh's guy, was sent to opponent's games to get their signals. Yeah, that's never happened. How different is that from watching tape? Well, are you stealing the signals? You ever think like a university that has a history like Ohio State, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, ever sends former players coaches, players especially who have coached to opponent's games, seats, watch the signals. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and guess that has happened before.

Every single weekend. I could give you an example on the West Coast. So then the question becomes, why Michigan, why Harbaugh? Exactly my point. Why Michigan? You don't think all these top schools, they have a directory. Who's in town? Who can go? Take a look. Call back. Hey, it's just for fun. There's eyes in the stands every weekend. This stuff, again, this is the biscuit on the airplane. It's not even the meal. It's just nothing. We're all trying to get an edge in some way, shape, or form. Hey, people don't know. Hey, I am going to other studios. I got people all over. That show, this show, spying on Stephen A. We don't need. We're not worried about anybody. But I do like that extra biscotti on the airplane. Oh, gosh. Love that. You're young.

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any good, Green Bay and Denver. This is the test, not a test. This is the test for Jordan Love. Off a by with an offensive coach. Offensive coaches off a buy. Very successful. Lousy Denver defense and running back Aaron Jones, top 7, 8 in the league, is, I'm told back.

If Jordan Love lays an egg against Denver's defense, defense, Justin Fields completed 80% of his throws against this Denver defense. It is time in the building to make a move toward a quarterback in the next draft. Do you have the intellectual honesty in Green Bay to do that? Giants didn't and doubled down on Daniel Jones. Justin Fields, his best game ever as a pro against this Denver defense, and he's got a defensive coach. So we just watched Jordan Love with extra prep time against the Raiders defense, struggle, punt, field goal, punt, interception, punt in the first half on scripted

plays. We also know that he is getting worse every game, meaning, i.e. translation, defensive coordinators now have some film. They know what he can't do and can't complete. And three, he has the lowest completion percentage in the NFL. He's not a rookie. Don't listen to that. He's not a rookie.

He's been in the NFL now. This is his fourth year. He's played in games, preseason games, dominating camp. Do the Packers have what they call intellectual honesty here to look in the mirror and go, now we reached on him and it's not working? You cannot lay an egg this weekend. In fact, he needs to be excellent. For the record, I'm not being harsh.

Kyle Shanahan moved off a quarterback that got to the Super Bowl. Sean McVeigh moved off a quarterback that got to a Super Bowl. Andy Reid moved off a quarterback Alex Smith that was a pro bowler. Sean Payton may very well move off a quarterback and have five years of his salary to eat. Jordan Love's just bad and they don't owe him much money. He has got to be excellent. Denver is allowing, I mean, this is hard to stomach. opposing quarterbacks against Denver are averaging 117 passer rating.

Justin Fields ate it alive. So think about this. Green Bay has the worst first half offense in the NFL. And consider this. The Giants haven't scored a first half touchdown. Green Bay's offense is worse. Can you look in the mirror? I think Pittsburgh's too nice to small.

town, Pittsburgh really is. It's a big small town, right? They're not going to move off, Kenny Pickett. Local kid, and it's going to put them behind Baltimore and Cincinnati for years, who have superstar quarterbacks. And Detroit Lions, golf, momentum, you know, Minnesota's going to get a quarterback. Chicago may go get another one. They have the first two picks in the draft potentially.

Can Green Bay go, okay, we've got to be honest here. Extra prep time against the Raiders defense, bad. extra prep time against the worst defense in the history of the league statistically. He's got to hit a home run this weekend. He's got his running back back, offensive coach, great organization, a lot of momentum when he entered it. Got to be good. No excuses.

The franchises that make a mistake on a reach, you got to move on. If you make a mistake, this league is full of mistakes. Everybody makes a mistake. I've had general managers, Bill Pulley, and made the Hall of Fame. he knew three practices in. He had a second, third round pick, total whiff. The best Belichick. Andy Reid, the very best at this, the best GMs, the best coach.

They screw up all the time. It's an imperfect business. There's no great talent in pointing out everybody's mistakes. They all make them. We make them coaches, GMs, no perfect GM, no perfect coach. No reason to belabor it. But the bigger issue is when you can't own it and move on. or you're the Giants and you double down on it,

that's when you get buried for years. Matt LaFleur this week on the Packers' inconsistent offense. I think a lot of times the quarterback gets too much blame when you're not scoring points, and that's just the way it goes, especially when you're turning over the ball. I just think it comes down to us getting into a rhythm offensively. We have not done that.

It's been choppy. It's felt disjointed. Jacksonville was choppy all last night, and then Trevor Lawrence made plays. Everybody's choppy. It's called the NFL every Sunday. Don't make excuses. Well, we were choppy and uneven. Jacksonville was all night, and they won.

And Patrick Mahomes against the Jets was choppy all night, and he won. There are no non-choppy games in the NFL, unless you're no Brock Purdy. until last weekend. Choppy is the league. Got to make plays. Got to complete passes. J. Mack with a news. No.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. I don't know. If you told me yesterday, Calvin Ridley would have one catch for five yards. Trevor Lawrence would have one touchdown pass. Travis E.T.N. under 60 yards rushing. I would have said the Saints should win the game.

Well, the Saints have the best talent in that game last night. Jacksonville is still in certain areas on that team, rebuilding. They're still in the rebuilding process. New Orleans is not rebuilding. Michael Thomas, Alave, Alvin Kamara, good run blocking O line, excellent defense, elite pass rusher. You're leaving out one name, and we're going to get to him right now, and it's not Derek Carr, although Derek Carr struggled for much of the game last night.

He even got booed at the end there. A booed? He got booed all night in the first half. Okay, well, I had a men's league basketball game, so I was watching on, what's out the sound. But yeah, listen, Carr had a couple overthrows. Here he is barking at Chris Olavé. There seems to be some sort of disconnect.

I will get into it here after we listen to Derek Carr. Okay. The slow start, you know, I've been showing my emotion a little bit too much on my sleeve, you know, like I kind of got to chill out. You know, and that's me holding myself accountable because that's not going to help anything. And so just trying to be a calming influence in those moments, especially when it's been a couple of times that's happened. that heightened frustration, I could do a better job as a leader to calm everybody down. I wasn't talking to Chris. Like the past two weeks, I've just been talking in general.

But there are some things that happened today that led to some pretty big negative plays that should never happen. And I think that's where my frustration was coming from. I like that. He wasn't talking to Chris. He was just looking at his direction and expressing massive displeasure. I couldn't figure it out. The ball was out of bounds by 10 yards.

Olave, some people broke down the video online. It looked like he may have stopped running there, but again, the ball was way out of bounds, so I can't totally fault it. Okay. Yeah, I mean, that's not a catchable ball. So, listen, we both like Derek Carr. I'm probably a little higher on him than a lot of people.

They think he's total garbage. He'd never want to play off game of bubble. I figured it out last night. He's 14th or 15th best quarterback in the league. One of those two. Yeah, right around there. So Pete Carmichael is the offensive coordinator. And I'm not trying to crush the guy, but I started reading about him.

Some people had told me before the season he's like, Matt Canada level bad. He's been an offensive coordinator for 15 years, longest 10-year-old OC in the league. But a lot of that was with Sean Peyton. So who do you think's calling play? Sean Payton or Pete Carmichael? Come on, Sean Payton. The offense was terrible in the red zone last year. They're once again terrible in the red zone.

And it looks like Carmichael's calling plays as if Drew Brees were his quarterback. Everything is dink and dunk. five yards in the middle of the field. They know what's coming. That pick six, that's not totally on car. There's like three defenders in the area. They ran 22 plays in the red zone last night, Colin. The Steelers have run 21 in the red zone this season.

Yeah, you know, my only criticism of Sean Peyton in his career, sometimes I think he's hired friends and not the best coaches. He's had guys in his staff that I think are mediocre. one of the things I love about Sean McVeigh, go look at all those guys that leave Sean McVeigh. Like Rahe Morris, Yarber may be the best receiver coach in the league. He's had multiple guys. His guys get head coaching jobs.

Bottom line is Breeze and Sean Payton just willed themselves to a Super Bowl and success. And it was overwhelming the GM Mickey Loomis, the coach Sean Payton and the quarterback Drew Brees, all A-plus-plus. there were other people on that staff I didn't love. Sean loved. He's loyal. I don't think Dennis Allen works, in my opinion. I think this is a very good organization that doesn't have the right coaches, plural. I don't hate that. Listen, they're still going to be in the playoff mix.

I know people don't want to say this is not a playoff team. Look at the division. Look at the schedule. They're going to be right there even at 9 and 8. Remember Tampa Bay won this division with Brady, I think two years ago, was it? when they had like an 8-9 record or 9-8. Tampa actually has good players. And they've got veteran player.

Atlanta's got good players. They're kids. Remember Carolina was in the mix for a playoff spot last year, like 7 and 8 late in the season? Like this division sinks. Saints aren't dead yet, but they got to fix this offensive court. I don't know what the solution is, but goodness, great. Three for 18 on third down. Yeah, they were awful on third down.

Three for 18. Come on. All right. Next story. Jimmy Garapolo officially out Sunday when the Raiders traveled to Shytown. Again, I know this is supposed to be a game nobody wants to watch. But I think Justin Fields... Well, wait, he's not playing.

Oh, now he's out. Yeah, we'll get to that shortly. We're going to do... We've got backup quarterbacks, Raiders, bears. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So here's the question, though. Do the Raiders start veteran Brian Hoyer, who I think is probably my age? I'm not sure.

He's a fossil. No, what's wrong with the backup? Or do they go with Rican O'Connell? I would go with Aiden O'Connell. Okay, so here's the problem. The Raiders are three-point favorites. The Raiders are also, I think, three and three and three. right? They got a chance to be over 500

if they win in Chicago and if you look at the schedule, I know this is going to sound crazy. There's a world where they could steal nine wins. So do they want to... I told you this yesterday and you barked at me. You mocked me. I did mock it, but here's the question. Colin, if you're the Raiders, do you say, let's see what we got with the young

guy, Aiden O'Connell? Or do you say, you know, Brian Hoyer's not going to screw it up for us? When's the last time Brian Hoyer won a game? You go with Aiden O'Connell. Last week against the Patriots? Aiden O'Connell, by the way, against the Chargers. I know they were down 24-7, but in the second half, he got them into like the 10-yard line to tie the game. I didn't watch last week.

No, no, he filled it. He didn't start last week. Remember Jimmy G. had the back injury at a half-time? And Hoyer comes in and he just didn't screw it up and made one deep pass. So do you play it safe with Hoyer? No. Do you see what you got with the young guy?

Go with the young guy. That's what I would do, but I'm not sure. And by the way, so what's the, you're going to give me the Justin Fields story? Yeah, okay, fine, final story here is Justin Fields, who has the dislocated thumb, According to Ian Rappaport, he's not going to do surgery? That's right. He's not. He can't grip of football right now. Like, what do we do?

This smells a little like Justin Fields knows. Like, dude, they're going to go get a quarterback. I got to save my job. I got to try. Well, they are. You have to draft a quarterback. So now you're going to play injured and even damage your future worth the way Baker Mayfield did in Cleveland? But people in Chicago, if you're wondering, you have to draft a quarterback.

I know, but Justin Fields, his mindset is I've got to go play to give my self a chance. But let's be honest, if you have the first or second pick and Caleb and Drake may are there, you draft them, period. I don't care. Again, you don't know if you have Mahomes, Herbert, Trevor, Jalen, Lamar, Josh. I don't even care if you had Dak or Kirk Cousins. You draft those quarterbacks. These guys are A prospect. I don't even care if you have DAC and Dak's good. There's about six quarterbacks in the world where I wouldn't draft one of those two guys. I would move down. Okay, so if you're the Bears will draft a quarterback. Are the Bears? Are the There's telling Justin Fields, hey, hey, Justin, just get the surgery, we need you healthy.

Because he's going to know that's a bat signal. Oh, they're tanking. Because Colin, the backup is an undraft-of-the-old. Oh, no, I watched him. It's not. It's bad. I think it's pronounced badgin. He played in a college program I'd never heard of.

Division 2. So, you know, he was a West Virginia high school football legend. I was just reading about him. He had a couple D1 by 22. The most interesting thing about this kid is his dad is like an arm wrestling legend. I'm talking like, I think I saw 17 championships in the arm. arm wrestling. Like he's a trash talking arm wrestler. Okay.

That's what's interesting about him. Okay. The bears are pretty clearly, let's just be aggressively bad. I'm going to guess there's not much else interesting about him, if that's what's interesting about him. That's the most interesting thing about this. I would say, I don't think the bears are telling Justin Fields anything. I think Justin Fields is hurt, and he senses the urgency to play.

You don't have, you know, I see this all the time. when people dream up conspiracy theories. You don't have to have one with Chicago. Justin Fields isn't an idiot. He's struggling. He sees Caleb Williams and Drake May. It's all over the internet. Michael Pennix.

And Chicago's got the first two picks. That kid wants to save us bacon. Now, I do believe if he got the surgery and got healthy, he does have a tiny market. I can see some, Justin is so talented. Because when you watch the Bears play, you don't love their GM, you don't love the owner, you don't love the coach, you don't love the defense. and there are moments, it's why Sam Gar-Darnold got another chance. You watch it up YouTube on Sam Darnold, you're like, wow.

Justin Fields has some Sam Darnold, not winning, but you can comprise a five-minute tape. There are some jaw-dropping moves by Darnold, so he got a second chance. Baker's second chance. Gino was a total bust and got a second chance. So my take-what, Justin Fields will get another run somewhere because, number one, he's got real talent. As a starter? Absolutely, absolutely. So he's talented.

And if you look at the dysfunction and the bears, I mean, if I was a GM and didn't have a quarterback, my first take is, well, who could succeed in Chicago? I don't even know if they had the right GM or the coach. Wouldn't you rather just draft one in a quarterback rich draft? What if I have the 15th pick? I'm not, how much would I have to move up to just get Michael Pennix? The third quarterback.

Bo Nicks, Quinn Ewers. There's a lot. Okay, well, I'm just saying, Justin feels a starter somewhere in the league next year? I don't know. I think he's backing up somewhere. I think he's, first of all, the talent's unmistakable. Darnold's talent was never the issue. His wind-up, his delivery, his recklessness. No, wait, I'm sorry. Fields is still on the rookie deal, so maybe he's backup in Chicago.

Well, no, I think you'd move. To whoever get that draft. You'd move him out. No, no, he'd be a distra. He's too talented. Remember, backups need to be people that can put a hat on in sunglasses, walk through them all, and nobody recognizes him. You don't want Tim Tebow, who wasn't any good, but he was a distract.

Cam Newton is a backup. Tebow is a backup. Johnny Mansell is a backup. Baker is a backup. They're too newsworthy. Justin Fields will be too newsworthy. But he's a starter for somebody in this league next year. Maybe it is Chicago. Maybe they win four games.

But he's starting. He's too talented not to get a second run. I would say no. I don't think he's starting anywhere week one. Should we do that as a side wager? I know we have a million sidewagers at this point. How many stakes do I get from you? Stop.

I'm at the 13. I can feed Fox Sports. I mean, you just look through the league. Like, I don't see where there's a spot. It's like musical chairs. There's not any available. Okay. Every year, two things happen.

Eight coaches get fired and eight teams are desperate for a quarterback. Baker Mayfield is starting in Tampa. Gino Smith was buried beneath your winter coat and your fourth closet in your house. It was over. He was in the third closet you never opened. and he's now starting and Pete Carroll gave him a contract and believes in him. So I guess the argument for those two, Pete Carroll really liked Gino Smith, but also Shanahan believed in Sam Darnold.

Who's seen two plus seasons of Justin Fields and is like, I need that. By the way. I like Fields, by the way, just for the record. Fields is talented. Donald's talented. Baker's talented. These people that are selling all their stock on Kyler Murray, he got Arizona to the playoffs. I'd rather have Justin Fields as a backup to Rogers, assuming he's back,

over Zach Wilson, 100%. So would I. Back up. He'll be somewhere in this league. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News.

I don't have to love a quarterback, and I've said Justin Fields reminds me a Darnold that he's a YouTube quarterback. If you watch the entire game, you wince occasionally, too often. But I can give you a three-minute reel of every game Sam Darnold played, you know, and you're like, I got to move.

He's big. He makes plays. Too reckless over time. That's why you have to watch the games. But Justin Fields has talent, and because of Chicago's dysfunction, somebody's going to look and go, yeah, look at that.

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A lot of people are questioning, you know, Detroit Lions, I don't trust him. Trust them. So Barnwell ranked the teams with the most players worth a first round pick. You can get a first round pick in a trade. For our radio audience, I'll read it. Philadelphia 7, Detroit and San Francisco, 6. They got dudes. Cowboys, Dolphins, Seahawks, 5.

So what jumps out to me in that, no big surprises. Detroit, as talented, first round pick-wise is anybody in the league. So buy this team. The second list, Jay Mack, you'll like this, that Barnwell has. Teams without a quarterback worth a first-round pick. Again, I'll read this for our radio audience. Bears, Broncos, Browns, Bucks, commanders, falcons, giants, jets,

Packers, Patriots, Raiders, Saints, Seahawks, Steelers, Titans, Vikings. Now, which teams jump out to you? To me, it's the Seahawks and the Steelers. Good teams, legendary defensive coaches who don't often show urgency for O-line play or quarterbacks. Gino Smith, Kenny Pickett, do not, in my opinion, feel like hoisting a Super Bowl trophy. So as I, I think it's the first time I've done it or second time this season, I do something after about week six, seven, called the Super Bowl Bowl. level. Teams, I believe, and it's always a very small group of NFL teams that I consider Super Bowl teams, and then there's always two or three for other reasons, close, but I'm not

there yet. And introducing my first Super Bowl bubble, or at least the one I remember, Baltimore, Kansas City, Buffalo, and Jacksonville from the AFC, Detroit, Niners, Philly, NFC. Now, I think the Bengals are close. They have won the last two weeks, but I thought they got outplayed by Seattle and outplayed by the Rams earlier. One both, but I don't love that. Miami, again, go to Philadelphia. Even if you lose 27, 26 and push them around a little, I'm impressed.

And Dallas, 11 penalties, special teams, blunders, the only reason you beat the Chargers, they're the Chargers. They made more mistakes than you did. So I think Dallas has the talent and there's a lot of things I do think are good, but I have Miami, Dallas, Cincinnati on the outside. Now, what are all these teams? What have all these teams have in common? Outside of San Francisco and we don't really know how good Brock Purdy is.

His numbers have been good. They all have elite. Dax elite, golf's elite. Maybe you're top 12, you're elite. That's it. Got to have one. So when I look at Barnwell's teams, without a quarterback worthy of a first-round pick.

You either have one or you're fooling yourself. So he has the Jets, Aaron Rogers, hilly surgery, going to be 40. Can't get a first-round pick for him, can you? Is that what he's saying? That's what I look at that list. I see Seahawks Steelers, good rosters, great coaches, but defensive guys, is Pete really buying into Gino? I think they draft the quarterback.

Is Pittsburgh really buying into Kenny Pickett? I don't think they will draft a quarterback. Local kid, they'll stick with him. Your take. Well, if we could show your Super Bowl bubble. So I feel like two teams are missing and they don't have a first round quarter. Okay, who are those teams? Well, let me back into it.

So why do you have Miami just on the outside? They have shown no ability. When you punch them back, they have a glass chin. They fold very quickly. They have to win a certain way. It's got to be finesse. They play with a lead. It's got to be a track meet.

Buffalo can win a track meet or an ugly one like last week. Miami doesn't win enough ugly games. You've got to be able to win both. And by the way, the Niners should have won last week. They missed two give me field goals. They can win ugly. They can win big. So I'm assuming Miami's offense is the primary reason.

And their coach. That they're even there. Okay. Yeah. They are. They play downhill. And when they do, they can blow anybody in the league out. So why wouldn't you have?

Because if Miami is at the elite end of the spectrum for offense, at the elite end of the spectrum for defense is the Cleveland Browns, who have set a record now for fewest yards allowed through six games going back like 50 plus years. They are by far the number one defense in the league. I know Chubb's gone. Deshawn Watson practicing today sounds like he may go this weekend. Why isn't Cleveland on the outside? Well, do you believe leadership matters?

Yes. Vic Fangio, defensive coordinator, Mike McDaniel head coach, and Tua. Those are leaders of men. Jim Schwartz, unbelievable defensive coach. Kevin Stifansky, who got to the second round on the playoffs with Baker-Mayfield. And then the most important part. And then Deshawn Watson is the question. Already, what the heck's going on?

We will hopefully sign up. I like Miami's leadership trio. Head coach, top coordinator quarterback, too is a great leader. I think he's a great quarterback. He's a great leader. Really good leader. McDaniel's brilliant. Vic is tremendous.

By the way, I consider Cleveland. But I look at the ownership. I look at the quarterback. I like their defensive court. Schwartz has been a great D.C. for a long time. Last team I would toss in there. But remember this. Remember this.

Miami dropped to 70 burger. What's Cleveland scoring on the weekends? Not many, but they got a defensive game. 19 points a game. Okay. The other team. Not even three touchdowns. That's not a Super Bowl bubble.

team to me. The Seattle Seahawks. I don't have men. Did you consider them for the outside bubble? Oh, yeah, no, no. Did. Because if memory serves, they were on the chart before with the most player, most talent.

They are loaded with talent. The Rams, though, to me, were closer than Seattle. Rams bludgeoned them when they played, elite offensive coach, elite quarterback. I thought week one out. I thought week one didn't matter. Elite coach, elite quarterback. That's true. So to me, every team in my bubble, do you have a star quarterback?

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