The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Thoughts on the Bull waiving Jaden Ivey, defending Dan Hurley

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

Colin Cowherd reacts to the Bulls waiving G Jaden Ivey and the real reason why he was let go despite being a top 5 pick back in 2022. Colin defends UConn head coach Dan Hurley from criticism about his sideline demeanor and why Duke fans need to stop overreacting to the “incident” with a ref at the end of their loss to the Huskies.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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marginalized and sometimes for very good reason. Most of my friends are Christian. I've said before I'm kind of agnostic. I got no idea what's going on upstairs. But there was a story yesterday that developed and it just so happens. I got lucky with this story because I had context and context around it. I know somebody that went to Purdue and played with Jaden Ivy. And I know somebody in the NBA that's been on his staff with Jaden Ivy.

He doesn't necessarily mesh well with others. So yesterday, the Bulls let him go. He went to Instagram multiple times. He called out the NBA for promoting Pride Month, saying it celebrates unrighteousness. And again, his reputation at Purdue, I've got it sourced. and in the NBA, he only had seven games left with the Bulls this year, and they were not going to bring him back.

So they said, you know, hit the road, good luck in free agency. Here's the first thought I thought about was never screw with a locker room. Never screw with a workplace. And I'll give you an example. I own a company. We got about 60 employees. It's called the volume. If I found out somebody did.

something illegal. And it was bad, a DUI. Maybe it was a misdemeanor. But they were good people. They made a big mistake. They were contrite. They were apologetic. They worked well with others. And they were really, really a good person in the building, despite committing a misdemeanor. I'd keep them. But it's a private company. And if they were annoying, odd, sometimes talk too much politics and religion, and multiple employees came to me and said, they're not good for the workspace. They're disruptive. I'd fire them in 30 seconds. I would keep the criminal. And I would let go of the annoying co-worker. And that's a private company, and I could. The Bulls, for the record, are a public-facing company. Athletes, you'd get to this point.

they'd figure out, keep religion and politics out of it mostly. There's thousands of Americans who have been arrested, who have made serious mistakes, who are tremendous employees and their workers, their boss love them. But you know what? There's not a million of in America. Annoying, weird people who talk politics and religion at work and don't mesh well with others. Don't screw with a workplace. Too many of you are getting into this dopey freedom of speech.

Jaden Ivy's not a lawyer being disbarred. He's not going to prison. He got seven games left and the Pistons who strangely made him a top five pick and let him go. The Pistons are dying for guard play and they let him go. Hmm. Why would that be? Bulls seven games left said hit the road, which they have every right to do legally. Here was their coach, Billy Donovan.

We have people from all different walks of life working in the building and players from all different walks of life, right? So the first thing is, you know, everybody comes with their own personal experiences. But one is we've got to all be professional. I think there's got to be a high level respect for one another. And we've got to help each other, you know, and then be accountable to those standards. You are always entitled to your own opinion. But you're never entitled, especially if you're not productive or you're disdainable. disappointing to disrupt the workspace.

And that's the thing about life. I tell my kids jokingly, half-jokingly all the time, be really great at something. You'll be able to get away with more. The legendary stories that Bill Belichick tells about Lawrence Taylor when he was a defensive coordinator for the New York Giants. And one time he showed up 15 minutes late to a meeting, and Belichick goes to Bill Parcells and says,

Bill, just thought I tell you, Lawrence showed up 15 minutes late to our meeting. And Bill Parcell said, why the hell did you start the meeting? He's the best football player in the league. Jimmy Johnson, guy falls asleep at a meeting, kicked him off the team. Troy Aitman did. Troy, get up. Troy, the meeting's still going. Life's full of gray.

And I understand that Christians feel marginalized. I get it. And you often have a point. and you can often take these disruptions to court, Gina Carrano and actress, right? Stuff like that happens. But the more skilled and talented, I know it stinks, right?

You get away with more. We all know that Dennis Rodman and Draymond Green created some headaches for Steve Kerr and Phil Jackson, but they got four and a half more rebounds per game than headaches per game. And so they stuck around. And that's one of the things that you say. A life is not fair. So many Christians this morning or last night read that story and feel attacked.

And I understand it. Some of what he said, I'm sure, has been said in churches last weekend. But they're not a locker room. And they're not necessarily a workspace. They're a house of worship. Timing, place matters. I mean, in Hollywood. If you're a B-lister and you're just, you're talking politics and sports on set,

you're only in two scenes, they'll reshoot them. If you're an A-lister, they're not redoing the movie poster. They'll just try to get through this puppy as fast as we can. And of course, there's lines that you can cross and you can't cross. But I literally had this sourced. And a Purdue, former Purdue player said, he was viewed as a guy that didn't always mesh well with others. And the injuries have compounded his frustration.

He went to Detroit desperate for a guy of his talent, and they let him go quickly. And now Chicago with seven games left said, you know what? We wish you the very best in free agency. And I'll give you an example of this. That place and time matter is that Josh Giddy, there was an allegation when he was a very talented young player for Oklahoma City. It was an ascending roster, very good roster.

Now you've seen it a couple years later. It's like, wow. There was an allegation, no arrest, nothing proven with Josh in an underage person, a girl. And in conservative, ascending OKC, Sam Presti said, we're going to let you go. Big City, Chicago Bulls are like, come on down, bro. We need, we'll give you a chance. You made a mistake. You've showed contrition.

We need it. And he's been a great player. Different organization. Different maybe political environment. Different, you know, small town, big city, conservative, liberal, all that stuff plays into it. All of it plays into it. You know, which way you lean in Hollywood may not be in Dallas. And in this instance, Jaden Ivy is for a public team.

in a locker room is viewed as, bro, if you average 29 points a game, and I thought about this this morning, what if he averaged 29 a game? And he didn't just have seven games left and several injuries. My guess, as he and Billy Donovan would have discussed it, and he would be given a second chance. Or a fifth. That's life. let's make this instructive is that it is unfair but rules aren't even and the internet wants to make everything black and white life is gray what you can say and i can say and others can say and where it's at and what time and what i understand christians feel attacked i get it i mean i watch the media and i am often uncomfortable with having

Christians are marginalized for things that are not a religious person are probably close to doctrine in a church. But in this instance, bro, injuries, you're not really the kind of personality that meshed at Purdue all the time or Detroit all the time. And Chicago can't go there. I agree with what the Bulls did. You just can't go there. again, they're not disbarring him from the law firm. There's seven games. They're like, bro, somebody, you know, he's talented kid.

Somebody may pick him up, right? People deserve second and third chances. But I hope what you've taken from this rant for me is, I own a small company. I would absolutely move off an employee who I viewed as disruptive to the work environment 10 times faster than somebody who made a big mistake in life, showed contrition, well-liked, highly productive, good teammate, even if the mistake was something that you should know better, even if the mistake is something that gets public scorn,

people make mistakes. This society, America, we allow them one of the great things about America. but odd you know back in 1986 i was a sportscaster this is my first year as a sportscaster out of eastern washington university and i was it it was the first time i'd ever gone to a really nice restaurant my boss at the time the late larry kentock took me to his golf club the desert in if you ever watch the movie casino it plays the part the desert in and so i go with larry i don't even have, I mean, my suit is like a wool suit in Vegas. It's 110. I mean, I just don't look the part. It's all these guys with big Rolexes and tans and open shirts and I'm just some rural kid.

And we go to a lunch at Desert End, you know, I don't even know what to order. And as I'm walking out, some big rich guy comes up and Larry introduces me. He says, he wants to be a sportscaster. And I never forget what this guy said, this big tall, kind of look like a Texan, a strapping guy at the D.I. That's what they call the desert in DI. He said, well, kid, just don't talk politics or religion. In your business, you could probably commit a crime.

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I've got to tell you, with the emergence of college basketball being so good now in the last several years, doing large part to the NIL and all these colleges being able to go by and recruit the best European young players and really good players staying in college another year. I don't think I've watched as much college basketball in a long time, and it's given us so many stories. And one of them is, you know, Dan Hurley. He's very intense. I would say this, and I would say it to his face.

I'll say it the next time I have him on. He's so intense. Sometimes it's odd. I mean, his coats coming off him. His glasses are on. They're half off. He's barking, spittle. You know, he's a lot.

I mean, he admits he's had anxiety, on therapy. He's, you know, he's very honest about his issues, his struggles. And so he's an easy guy if you want to pick on him because he's not like everybody else. He's not always perfectly buttoned up. I mean, look at the picture over my shoulder. That's like his default face. You know, mouth open, outraged. But Duke fans need to lighten up. One of the things that drives me crazy since we legalize gambling, sports gambling in this country is when a team loses, they never look in the mirror. It's rigged. It's the refs. It's the television network. Now, the Kansas City Chiefs were bad last year. That's why they didn't do well. It wasn't the

networks. Okay, Duke blew the game. They blew it. Not great coaching, too many turnovers. The two men involved in what it looks like a headbut, Dan Hurley and Roger Ayers, know each other, get along, and both say, it may look weird, but it's a non-story. I mean, there's Hurley on the screen. His jacket's half off. He's looking at him right there. That's Hurley. If I saw Dan in his office, I mean, look at him. He's physical. He chest bumps players as jackets half off. He's not Bobby Knight. He's not barking, trying to intimidate here. during the games he barks at refs but he acknowledges he likes the refs he barks at and so this is just this is just hurley to a tee jackets half off he's looking over his glasses it looks like he's an old man

with bifocals and roger air says it's no big deal we know each other it's all good it was i took the train to work this morning i get face to face with about four people every morning on the train it was just a brief tight space the ref and dan walked by each other the ref may have said something. Dan didn't say anything. He just looked at him and they moved on. And so it's like a lot of this is just Duke fans, apoplectic, outraged that they lost and they're like,

hey, hey, you got to throw that guy out. We have to understand. There are certain people in society that are wired differently. Dan Hurley is one of them. And Jackets off. he is just perpetual motion it was brief it was a tight space both men involved said no big deal

I mean I went and looked at some of the complainers was remarkable how many are Duke fans Duke you blew it own it here's Hurley last week on my show I'm more relaxed this time of year I think you work so hard to put yourself in position where you're in contention now you find yourself with a team

that's in contention, you're more relaxed this time of year. When you're coaching in December or January, you're really uptight, man. It's like if things start going bad in December, now you're looking at staring down the barrel of, man, I got two or three more months of hell with this group if we get out of two-game losing streak where you don't worry about picking the pieces up this time of year. If you go down, you know, it's kill or be killed. Also, context matters. his team just beat Duke

with a game winning shot in which they trailed by 15 at half. I don't think he was mad at the official. I think it was one of the happiest moments he's ever had in most relaxed moments. Like just beat Duke, down big, roaring back, miracle shot. It's not like there was a bad officiating call

that sent Duke to the line and won the game. That's as happy as he has been since the last time he was with his wife at a Billy Joel concert. That is as happy as Dan Hurley gets right there. And he's just a quirky, unique, intense, brilliant guy, and you're seeing all of it all the time. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no.

Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. All right, let's go to the NBA where SGA had a decent night last night, Colin, 47 points. The free throw merchant went to the line 25 times, 21 or 25 from the charity stripe. and the Thunder beat the pistons in overtime. That's the Cade Cunninghamless Pistons. But afterward, what everybody's buzzing about is SGA was asked if he wants to, you know, talk about the MVP race. Here we go.

I think it's good for the league. I think it's good chatter. It gives people something to talk about. There's a lot of good players in this league and a lot of guys in the conversation because of that. There's been chattering on behalf of other players. Would you like to chat on behalf of yourself? No, I'm good. Thanks for asking, though.

But, yeah, I'm good. I'll let my game do the talking. I know his nickname is SGA. It should be smooth. He is just his game. Listen, he's dapper. He's, that guy is smooth. You know, there's just Walt Frazier,

the legendary, just had his 81st birthday. Walt Frazier is one of the all-time great characters in the NBA. you know, Frazier was just a great player for the Knicks. He's just kind of smooth. SGA's game, you know, it's not highly vertical. He's not dunking over you. He's not shooting from 38 feet. He's just both hands.

He kind of gets you off balance, little leaner to the right. And I like his personality. He's just one of those never too high, never too low. I think the OKC embodies, you know, Sam Presti's the same way. Sam's never too high, too low. It's analytics. It's data. This whole organization, the GM, the star player, it's just their smooth, adult, high EQ IQ operators. I really like his personality.

He's cool. I mean, they got a great leader face of the franchise. I will say I was watching last night, and tie game, fourth quarter, he makes one of his patented shots. But, Colin, they called the offensive foul on him because he clearly pushed off. and everybody was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe they actually called it because the reps protect this guy everywhere. Anyways, Thunder with the Good Win. This was obviously a dig at Wembe.

I'll let my game do the talking because Wemby got to the podium and was talking about it. I'm just telling you how it's going to work right now. The media loves SGA. They are going to vote for him. They don't like Luca because he whines. And they think, oh, Wembe's going to have his shot, he's got the next 10 years. The media votes for it.

They're going to vote for SGA. I have no problem with SGA winning it. I would vote for Wemby and SGA, too, but I don't have a problem because, again, here's a prime example. So this is a, J-MAC, this is a subjective vote. Yep. Just like we talked about in the opening segment, life is a lot of gray. SGA is always available to talk to the media. I mean, you know, you can say what you want.

Oh, the media just loves LeBron. LeBron's always available to talk to the media. LeBron's always been great with the media. And that's part of why people like him. And there's other players in the league that have been, you know, discouraging to cover, disrupt it. People don't like it. It shouldn't be that way.

But part of it is to your point. The feeling is Luca complains too much. Wembe'll get his. And SGA is such a likable, great player. He's an easy guy to vote for. I kind of wish they just kept it to basketball. And the goofiest is this whole, whoa, the thunder have the best record. Where were these morons when Russell Westbrook averaged a triple-discuit?

double was like the sixth seat in the West, and they gave him the MVP. It's just like there's no consistency. Well, that's a prime example. That was a great story. Westbrook lost KD. There was some sympathy for Russ. Ross put up unbelievable numbers, and people are like, you know, Russ got abandoned by his star. That's brutal. Kevin Durant left him. Let's give him the MVP. Well, no, no, he got to be fair. T trophies for everybody. No, Russell had a great year. He was he had a great year. Yeah. Now, I will say, the rebounding stats were goose. a little, obviously. But in fairness,

he did put up historic. He had a great season. He did. No doubt about it. All right, let's move on to the NFL where the Cowboys franchise tag George Pickens. I mean, who knew? Nobody could have guessed, Colin,

that this would come back to be a potential issue. Well, reports are now indicating Pickens could sit out the voluntary OTAs. Brian Schottenheimer, of course, is not concerned. GP loves it here. We love GP. We have plans for GP to be here for long time. So we'll let the business side of this thing. See where it goes. I haven't pushed that on him.

I mean, again, we're all going through the process. It's almost April. We're still a couple weeks away. It's going to play out the way it plays out. Again, it's all voluntary. I had to squeeze in a cowboy story. Hey, listen, man, that was not me. And I even got, I'm like, I loved your opening rant. I loved the Jaden Ivy stuff. I'm like, that's a great topic. Schadenheimer, though, is annoying to me. And listen, I have some bias here, Colin. He was the Jets OC when we went to the AFC championship game, We. And I did not like his play calling at all.

So I come in bias to this. It's probably not fair for me to chime in. I'll let you chime in on Pickens versus Schottenheimer. I mean, he's not going to show up. Let's be real. Well, they didn't give him a long-term contract. I don't think he's a long-term contract personality.

I think he's a super talented player. Yeah. But I like my receivers like JSN. I like my receivers like Ibuka. They go. So Amar on St. Brown, Larry Fitzgerald. It is a position with a lot of personality and mood swings, and for whatever reasons. So I think at wide receiver, there are things that concern me in terms of long term.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't acquire somebody for a year or two. I like Amari Cooper's personality. I didn't love Des Bryant's personality. I like my wide receivers. And I understand they're the most talented players. They have kind of an NBA feel like they can take a game over. But, you know, George's history, it would worry me with a long-term contract. I'm just curious, you know, my team is the Jets, so I know they're going nowhere.

But I'm just curious, if you were a Cowboys fan, you watch the offseason. Now you see the picking stuff. I mean, like, are you even optimistic about next season? Oh, if they landed Caleb Downs and if they went into the secondary in the first round and got Caleb Downs and then got the third best corner with Rishon Gary, Quinn and Williams,

Kenny Clark, overshone. Damn right, I'd be excited. So you think there's some optimism around Dallas? I want them. Now, I want them to get cheaper and less expensive on the back end of the defense because now they're spending money.

The cap hits go up for Quinn and Williams, Kenny Clark on the front end. So my take with Dallas is if they go secondary, I love Caleb Downs. I mean, I think he's the most undervalued guy in this draft. I see him going 11th. I'm like, you think there's 10 guys better in college football than Caleb Downs?

You're crazy. Okay, so you're optimistic. Do you want to guess the win total on the Dallas Cowboys right now? Six and a half. Come on. Six and a half. The Jets are five and a half. Dallas Cowboys over is eight and a half wins.

How are you optimistic if your win total is eight. If they nail their draft, let me revisit that. I would say under. Like a win? Come a half a win? If you get Caleb Downs, who I think, I'll make an argument. Caleb Downs is the, I've done this before. I did this years ago when Patrick Willis played for Ole Miss and the Niners got him at 11.

I said the Niners just got the only can't miss guy in the first round at number 11. Caleb Downs and Jeremiah Love. Those are the two players. I also love Fernando Mendoza, but it is the Raiders. If you told me there's two guys that cannot miss, I would say it's love the running back out of Notre Dame and Downs for Ohio State. Even if they went to a bad team, a dysfunctional team,

those guys are, it's really funny about this. There's very few guys that fall into. Jonathan Ogden came out at left tackle. You're like, he was a can't miss guy. Like he literally, you just couldn't, he was like trying to block the sun, get around the sun. The diameter, the length, he was just ridiculous. But there's not that meant Nick Alman Worry went to the Seahawks in the second round. And almost everybody went, that is as good a pick in the second round as there's been in years.

Like everybody knew that was John Snyder, that he was a first round talent, slid to the second. Dallas gets Caleb Downs with their pick, and I've seen mock drafts. They ace the first round, regardless of their next. picking the first round. All right. Finally, the Ravens and Max Crosby, that deal that kind of blew up earlier this month, you know, everybody knows the Ravens backed out of the deal. It's obvious regardless of what they want to say. But how about this one? Team President Sashi Brown is acting like, hey, you got to hear our side of the story. Here we go. I think it's a slow news cycle. I don't want to at all downplay the experience that Max had coming, that we all had. A

Ravens, Max, our locker room. As Eric said, we were incredibly excited and just as equally, if not more, disappointed, that we weren't able to pull off that transaction and bring Max to Baltimore. Slow news cycle. This is the biggest story of the offseason, Colin? I will say. What was bigger? I will say.

What's he talking about? When the NFL season ends, there's about a three to a four-week stretch. and you and I do this for a living that is really slow. In fact, you and I generally go on vacation. And that Max Crosby story fell in that space. People ask me all the time, what's the worst time to be a talk show host?

And I say, well, March is amazing. You got March Madness. And then the Masters is coming up in the draft and you have the NBA playoffs. And they're like, oh, I always tell people, June, take your vacations in June. and that three or four weeks after the season. So that is a time when you and I are bailing water

and that Max Crosby story was getting daily play for hours on shows. I don't think it was worth that. I really don't. I think it was, it happens, it's odd. You think you'd have medical clearance before trades were made, which I've always thought's weird in the NFL, like, shouldn't you have clearance, then you have a trade?

But it works the inverse. But I think he's going to be great I think he's going to be a great raider for the rest of his career. I don't think he's going to get traded. Jay McClinton. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

The Heard Lye News. Okay, this made me laugh. The Athletic, great journalism, subscribe, it's great. They did a, this is funny to me. They pulled fans

of every major league team. They called it the Hopometer. Okay. The Dodgers and the Blue Jays were one and two. They were in the World Series. That's not surprising. The Reds were 11.

The A's haven't played in their stadium. 12. Pirates 13. And the New York Yankees, Hopeometer, they were one spot ahead of the Marlins at 22. Yankee fans have officially become the unhappy billionaire who's no longer the richest man in the world.

He's like number two and he's miserable. The Yankees haven't had a losing season since 1992. I look it up since 2005. They lead baseball and wins. Yet they're neck and neck with the white socks and the Marlins. in the hopometer. There's a saying, comparison is the thief of joy,

and this is a great example. Yes, if you compare them to the Dodgers the last eight years, they're not number one. Or if you compare them to their own dynasty in the late 1990s, well, they're not that either. So they're not as special

as a current dynasty or their dynasty. But today is 2026, and here's the good news. If Garrett Cole, when he comes back in May or June, if he is 85 to 90% of what he was, the Yankees starting staff is one of only two or three in the sport that could beat the Dodgers if they met in the World Series. Never forget the last time they met.

The Dodgers beat them. What were the two games in the series the Dodgers couldn't hit? Garrett Cole starts. So the Yankees starting staff, I mean, I don't know how many runs they've given up this year. The answer is not many. So the Yankee staff, if Garrett Cole comes back and is 85%, 80% of what he was, they actually match up great with the Dodgers. Don't forget, Otani was one for 18 against the Phillies pitching.

Great players have bad series and bad post seasons. The Yankees have given up three runs in four. four games. Their pitching is great now without Garrett Cole. So, I mean, to me, if you said, who could beat the Dodgers? In a series, I'd say, Yankee pitching. Right now, Yankee pitching could beat the Dodgers. They wouldn't be favored. But I watched that World Series a couple of years ago that went five games. The Aaron Judge Error won. They couldn't hit Garrett Cole. When Garrett's on, nobody hits Garrett Cole. Nick Swisher on the recently on our show, part of the Yankee broadcast on the critics of the Yankees.

And one of the things that I really appreciate about spring training this year was, listen, there was this narrative about how, you know, the Yankees are just running it back. Like they weren't very aggressive in the off season, didn't get a whole lot of names out there, like Bragman, the whole nine. But at the end of the day, you're talking about the team that won the Team Silver Slugger Award. Right? So that just goes to show you how talented this team is. is now all of a sudden you not only have an unbelievable offensive roster you now have some depth

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It's just magical. This is not a big story, but it's something. I liked it. All the NFL head coaches, the GMs, are in Phoenix this week. And it was interesting. Matt Lefleur was asked about the players survey. So they did player surveys forever, but the owners don't like it because especially like Arizona or the Jets or a lot of these owners, they get called out. They get Fs.

Matt Lefleur did not get an F. He got a B minus. B minus is not a D minus. A B minus is basically my college transcript, and that's fine. But what I like about it, that he didn't deny it. He said, I got to figure out why. He addressed it and he owned it. And I think that's what smart people do and what smart organizations do.

They stay ahead of problems. Proactive, not reactive. So a prime example is the San Francisco 49ers got a very solid grade of B to a B minus with their training staff and their training facilities. They immediately addressed it, $9 million into upgrading their training facilities. And they hired three or four more trainers to give the players more individual access. So, I mean, player surveys are not everything, but there's something. I think by and large, now they're occasionally. occasionally in any workforce, you're going to get grumpy guy and, you know, I'm not getting

treated fairly guy. But when you have a collective and, you know, Matt LaFleur, who by the way, since 2019 is second to Andy Reed in wins by active coaches. So he's tied with Harbaugh for second. He's ahead of Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVeigh. So he's a really good coach. But this is what I've always lauded the Dodgers for. Dodgers were number one in baseball. number one in attendance. They win the World Series in 2024. What do they do? Improve the stadium.

Like, stay ahead of stuff. Be current. So the Yankees last night, I got to tell you, this ABS system, the ball and strike replay system, is really good in baseball.

And I know there's going to be old timers, don't like it. I get it. Colin, you always like the new stuff. No, I don't. Remember when the NBA came out with a new ball or they made guys where, like jerseys that were like over the shoulders like that's bad this thing yankees are 10 for 11 this year and they were five for five last night against the mariners and so what it you know people the first thing you think is ah these lousy home umpires first of all calling balls and strikes is is some of the best umpires ever had bad nights behind the plate mike easta book um

had a bad night. The Yankees challenged him five times, and they were right all five times. But I don't think it's just about the umpires. There are all Mike Trout this year is three for three. What it's shown me is that most batters really, really know the strike zone down to the millimeter. Ronald O'Kuna of the Braves, he's a he's O and two. So what you're finding is, is I think the thing that impresses me the most, because remember, a manager, it's got to be a pitcher, a catcher, or a batterer that taps the head. Can't be the manager. The thing that blows me away, just I can't believe it, is how well most batters know the strike zone. I mean, they are, it's like Ronald O'Cunia, I could tell that that was a strike. Yeah, he, it was close, but,

I think it's fascinating. And it impresses me more with hitters. I mean, it's so, I mean, stuff, have you ever gone to a batting cage? I used to do this. I'd go to a batting cage and I'd turn it up to 80 miles an hour. And, I mean, I could, I could, I could, I mean, that to me was no one Ryan through 101 with movement. I don't know how, I mean, I was reasonably athletic. You can't even see 80 is on your hands like that.

These guys are all throwing 98 splitters. And these batters to the millimeter can figure it out. It blows me away how great Major League Baseball hitters are. So here's Aaron Boone last night. I'm going five for five against the Mariners. Really good job by the guys. You know, when you have that kind of success rate, it's not going to be like that every night.

But I thought everyone was obviously warranted. and a couple in some key spots to give us a chance to build an inning. We just weren't able to build much offensively tonight. Probably can be a little bit. You know, you also get a little frustrated over there. Like, let's, you know, you don't want to, those are razor thin pitches sometimes. You don't want to always have to be challenging. But J-Mack, do you like it?

I think it feels like a game show. I mean, it does feel a little gimmicky. You remember the torpedo bats last year? They had a moment for like, I don't know, two weeks. it was like the big deal and then they kind of went away. I hope this is kind of just a fad because I don't want this to be baseball every night, do you? Yeah.

It's basically like umpire versus batter now. Well, I mean, you get football replays every game. Yeah, but there's limited to replays. You can't have replays every five seconds. It's interesting you bring this up. So I have thought, you know, because they've, baseball fiddled around with this in the minor leagues, like the pitch clock. And so, I mean, they have done their homework and due diligence on this.

They're not making it up. They watched it for years. They had discussions. It's funny. I remember when the pitch clock came out and there were a lot of baseball purists and legitimate baseball reporters that said, man, this is going to be hard for some of these batters. They have years of habits.

And virtually within three at bats, everybody figured it out. The reality is, if there's a law posted on the freeway, don't go over this speed in the school zone. I don't care if you're a racy driver. You won't go over that in the school zone. People can follow direction. People are capable. The batters and the pitchers figured out the pitch clock by the second start or the third at bat.

I do think, I mean, I know the umpire union probably doesn't love this. Probably. Yeah. And like last night, it's embarrassing if you're a home plate umpire. I do think, I wonder if this happens. If what happens if a home played umpire and these guys have egos melts down and has a seven pitch ABS inning. Like I could see an umpire melting down. I mean, they better have a therapist and a couch somewhere in that umpire room,

because I could see it getting really ugly. I mean, it got ugly the other night and that was at the Reds Red Sox game. You're like, this is embarrassing for the umpire. The umpire was clearly embarrassed. And they're also going to have a quick hook with anybody giving them lip if you're constantly challenging them. By the way, these umpires then get reps. The next game they go to after getting called out five for five, you know the batters are going to be looking.

Oh, I'm going to show this guy at Piki. His eyes are terrible. You know, I don't love that, but maybe it's early and these are growing things. I like that it holds everybody accountable. It also holds batters accountable or pitchers accountable. You know there are grumblers in every workforce in America. There's got to be every staff's got a pitcher or two that always thinks, my sinker.

I never get, okay, champ, test it. So it gets out a lot of the grumblers. I mean, that's the great thing about technology. It gives you the truth. Whether you can handle the truth, it gives it to you. Brad Underwood, Illinois head coach joining us. Man, there's a lot going on. Hey, guys, it's us.

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