The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd-HOUR 1-Titans, Brady, Jets, Packers

Episode Date: October 14, 2020

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This is The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we're on Fox Sports Radio and FS1. One hour from now, Joel Clatt will yell at me about college football. 30 minutes from now, Nick Wright will yell at me about everything. It is great to have you. Enjoy Taylor is joining me today. They're still celebrating in Los Angeles, home of the world. champion Los Angeles, Lakers.

And feel it in the air here to Winters Town. It was a Hollywood season, so they deserve it. And now LeBron's gloating. We'll get to that in a big. He's in gloating stage, and I'm here for it. Let me start with this. First impressions matter. And we all know that.

I'm not telling you something you don't know. First impressions matter. The first time you meet somebody, you see somebody, first impressions matter. So what is the difference between Baltimore, the Ravens? We all love them. everybody loves the Ravens. Everybody's in on the Ravens, me included.

What's the difference between them and the Tennessee Titans, who we all kind of roll our eyes and dismiss? They both have a good head coach. They both live and die with the running game. The pass rush for both is, so it must be the quarterback. That is the big difference.

Lamar is amazing in Tanna Hills, kind of a stiff. Okay, so first impressions matter. Our first impression of Ryan Tannihill is Miami's so, so, 500, 8, and 8. Our first depression is Lamar is, my God, he's faster than Michael Vick. Oh, my God.

Let's go to their last 17 games because Ryan Taniel has only been a starter for 17 games in Tennessee with this staff. Oh, oh, my. It's the same quarterback. Tanyhill actually has a little better TD to interception ratio. More passing yards, higher completion percentage, better pass. Oh, by the way, in that str... Lamar can run, though. Well, that's funny because in that stretch, Lamar has seven rushing touchdowns, Tannihill 6.

And oh, by the way, they played in a playoff game in Baltimore when they actually had crowds in the NFL, and Ryan Tannahill won and outplayed him. Now, I'm not in any way saying Ryan Tannahill is Lamar Jackson, but first impressions kind of matter, right? And our impression of Tennessee for years has been 9 and 7, 9 and 7, 9 and 7, 9 and 7, 9 and 7. and then you combine that with Ryan Tannehill first impression, and it's like, well, he's kind of an 8-and-8 guy. No, no, no, with this team and this coach and Derek Henry

and this support system and that offensive coordinator is really good. No, Ryan Tannahill, he's a top 12 quarterback in the league, as is Lamar Jackson. Ryan Tannahill is not some pocket stiff who can't run. He had 42 rushing yards last night on four rushes. is in a touchdown. And Lamar Jackson, similarly, is not just some guy that runs around and can't pass. But if you look at the numbers last night against Sean McDermott, one of the best defensive minds in the NFL, 130 passer rating, 21 to 28, three touchdowns, no picks, and he

was mobile. Tennessee has been so nine and seven and so boring for so long the Marcus Moriota years, we've just come to expect, they're a little better than average. And Ryan Tanniel in Miami was, it is kind of average. Now, we need to reboot. this because we all love Baltimore, me included, and we all dismiss Tennessee, and we all love Lamar, and we all dismiss Ryan Tanniel. I'm talking about me. Maybe we need to reboot this. Maybe they're the same. Running games, quarterbacks that can move and throw, very good coordinators. I mean, Baltimore's offensive coordinator, Greg Roman, is a legendary coordinator who took Colin Kaepernick to Lamar. this system down pat, very hard to defend.

Who's the best young offensive coordinator in football? A lot of people think it's the guy with the Titans. So, you know, sometimes you just have to get away from what you believed. First impressions are very, very powerful. And I watched Tennessee last night and I'm like, what's the difference between them and the Ravens? I don't know if there is. I don't know if Tanna Hill with this staff and this coach and Derek Henry in this

environment and this offensive coordinator, I don't see a. massive gap. Now, I think Lamar's a little more explosive, but I saw him playing a playoff game, and I watched Tenney last night, in 17 games, he's 13 and four, and I've seen him go up against good quarterbacks. All I know is we have to rethink what we think about Tennessee, because Buffalo's good, and Tennessee last night did not have eight starters and two assistant coaches, and they housed them. Buffalo's not going to lose that badly all year. They're not going to lose to the Patriots like that. They're not going to lose next Monday night to the Chiefs like that.

Buffalo will not lose like that the rest of the year. Tennessee is for real. We dismiss them. We love Baltimore. I'd argue it's the same team. One's just cooler. One we just talk about more. All right.

So I used to live right near Boston. And I used to live in Tampa. So I have a sense of kind of the sensibility. of Boston in Connecticut, very principled, prep schools, very academic, very rigid, very political. And I lived in Tampa for a couple years. Tampa's loose and Ibor City and fun and cocktails early, pot-te had the most strip clubs per capita in America when I was there.

Whatevs? They also has lightning. But my concern when Tom Brady went from Boston to Tampa, Joy as my witness, was not about changing wide receivers. It was not about changing adjutant. addresses. It was not about changing coordinators. It was not about, it was about the sensibility. It was changing cultures. Tom's a winner.

Tampa's losers. And we're already now three and a half, four days removed from Tom yelling at teammates. What game was that? It was Thursday. So we're six days removed from Tom yelling at teammates. And it is still a story. They're still asking them about it. They're still talking about it.

This was my concern. It's easy to change uniforms. It's easy to change receivers. It's easy to change offenses. Try turning losers into winners. New England is about academics and detailed and button up. This year, the New England Patriots. And by the way, they have a brand new quarterback.

They should have a bunch of offensive penalties. You know how many they have? Three. Tampa's got Tom Brady. James Winston's no longer there. They will clean it up. You know how many offensive penalties they have? Eight times that, 25. The standards are different.

And Tom's trying to change the standards. Bruce Ariens was asked yesterday again about Brady yelling. Just be yourself. I don't have any problem with it. At least I don't have to go back there and cuss them out. They've already got the airfall by the time I get over there. So Tom's got to be Tom. I'm not going to ask him to be somebody different.

He does a good job of pat him on the back too. He might have explode, but he's going to go down there and pat him on the back and get him going. Yeah, they don't remember that. They remember this video. And it's amazing how much flack Brady's taken over this. Folks, Michael Jordan went to the Wizards. He was easily their best player. Do you remember how much pushback Michael Jordan, the greatest basketball player of all time,

got when he went to the Wizards. He's mean. Michael doesn't understand young players. He played with all sorts of young players in Chicago. Michael was a winner. The Wizards were losers. And he could never overcome it. When LeBron first got to the Lakers, they were a mess. It was all these young kids.

And LeBron came in and had standards, this, this, this, this. LeBron is out. He doesn't under. They got rid of all the young players. By the way, when Michael Jordan first got to the Chicago Bulls, remember the funny line during the 10-part documentary? They called him the cocaine. the traveling cocaine circus.

It was a bunch of drug guys and a bunch of guys that wanted points. And Michael Jordan walked in. He's like, no, no, no, no, no. I come from North Carolina. I got aspirational dreams here. Michael's a winner. His business is a winner. His basketball is a winner.

He was a winner in college. He was a winner in high school. He was a winner in the pros. Michael's a winner. But Michael couldn't change all those bull players. He couldn't. They just wanted to score points. He couldn't change them.

He had to get rid of him. And he couldn't change the Wizards. And LeBron, he couldn't change the. those early Laker players, he had to get him shipped off. This has always been my number one concern with Brady. He'll figure out the wide receiver. He and Mike Evans already get along great. He'll figure out Leonard Fernette.

He'll figure out the rookie right tackle. He'll figure out Todd Bowles in the defense. He'll figure out Bruce Ariens. They have 25 penalties, New England. They have a new quarterback, too. Cam Newton had about four practices, three offensive penalties. Changing cultures is hard. being content is the enemy of great.

Tampa's always been sort of pretty good draft. Nine and seven, eight and a penalty, a nine penalty game. Nine penalty games in New England, they just don't happen. If they do, they don't happen the next week. So I think it's really interesting that we are now almost a week removed from a 10-second Tom Brady outburst. And we're still talking about it. He had those all the time in New England.

He had two of those last year in New England. We didn't talk about it. Because the standards in New England, Boston, that region, are higher for football and sports. The Celtics win. The Bruins can win. The Red Sox have won. The Patriots have won. The culture of Boston is you shout, you scream, you get it right, you yell, you win.

And it's understood. It's part of the fabric of success. in Tampa, Tom barks at an offensive lineman. Six days later. Tom is, well, did you make a Tom, you own it, people. That's how you get crap done in sports. Games are live. You can't sit down and put your arm around.

Let's have a long talk with dad. You've got to be on the field in nine seconds. Bark, let's go, get it done, get it corrected. I want that this is what happens in sports. Michael yelled, the late Kobe yelled, Charles Barkley yelled. Steve Kerr has yelled Kevin Durant's yelled Brady's yelled

Peyton Manning's yelled and Patrick Mahomes hasn't yelled yet but he will in the next 10 years good stuff still whining about that in Tampa poor Tommy yelled at somebody coming up next to outside of LeBron

where you land in sports matters I think mostly we know that but we know it more this morning than we did yesterday because of one NFL player and what's happened to his career. We'll talk about that. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app.

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Don't be spooked by high rates and car insurance. Get a quote today at geico.com. An ad executive probably laughed and giggled all the way home after they wrote that. They thought, I nailed it. Guy Coean. So, Levy and Bell got released by the New York Jets. Let me unpack this a little bit because I actually think he's been a good soldier there. I mean, he, you know, sometimes he goes to Twitter instead of talk to the boss, but it's 2020. He didn't grumble.

He is actually, he's not quite elite anymore. next generation stats tell you since the start of last season, despite the fact the old line's bad, they take that into consideration. He's kind of in the Todd Gurley class, the Peyton Barber, the Devante Freeman. He's not what he used to be. Running backs get old. It's not just the Jets offensive line. He doesn't have the burst.

They were saying in camp, he looks slow. The kid they drafted out of Florida behind him looks to have more of a movement. I like Levian Bell. I've had him on the show. I think he's a gamer. But I think the cautionary tale of this, and the Jets put him out to 31 teams. They just wanted a seventh round pick. They couldn't get it. So there's no market for him. Very interesting. Antonio Brown, in my opinion, was the best receiver in the NFL when he left

Pittsburgh. His career's over. Lavian Bell was a top three running back. He can catch it. He can run it. And his career is kind of like flattened out, right? Or it's over. I don't think it's over, but there's not much left. Take LeBron James out of it. Every athlete in America, take LeBron out of it. And you could say that occasionally for international soccer, for Ronaldo or a Messi. But for 99.9% of talk show hosts and athletes, where you land matters and who you're surrounded by really matters. Tucker Carlson is the hottest thing on cable TV. He was invisible for 10 years. I'm not sure. It was like witness protection. Where'd he go? He ended up on Fox News. Oh, a lot of people watch that. Now he's a star. He was invisible for 10 years.

Bill O'Reilly was invisible for 10 years before he got there and had a 20-year cable run. The reality is outside of LeBron James and maybe Oprah, okay, where you land matters, who you're supported by. If you're a skill person in the NFL, do not leave Andy Reid. Take less money. If you've got Sean Payton, if you have Russell Wilson, you have Aaron Rogers, take a little less money. You don't leave Russell Wilson as a wide receiver. You shouldn't leave Aaron Rogers. Don't leave Andy Reed.

Do not leave Sean Payton. And don't leave the Pittsburgh Steelers. Antonio Brown had the perfect team. It was a top three offensive line and the best deep ball thrower in the league, Prima Holmes. It was perfect. I got my issues with Big Ben. Too much drama.

Woe is me, Ben. Can still sail a ball over a running back in the flat like nobody else can. but on deep balls, and how do you throw deep balls if you have time to throw? Pittsburgh had a great offensive line. Labian Bell had that style where he sat and he waited for the offensive. It didn't look like any other running back. It was just perfect. For both of them, it was perfect.

This is a franchise in Pittsburgh that has had three coaches since 1969. The Jets have had three in six years. Take LeBron James out. Lavian should have never left. A, B, shouldn't know. ever left. And I'm not saying it was all their fault. Big Ben's a handful. But man, A-B to me still should be the best receiver in the league, and Lavian Bell should still be a top five running back. They were magic. But you go to the Jets, you go to the wrong team, and it's amazing

how often it can all unravel. 31 teams. Jets called reportedly all of them. Not a taker for a seventh round pick for Lavin Bell. It's a bummer because I love watching them play. Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Aaron Rogers has been putting up MVP level numbers this season.

I don't think he's been, has he hasn't thrown a pick yet. And he hasn't been sacked yet. He has, uh, nope, no interceptions. 13 touchdowns, no interceptions. He has led the Packers to in four no start. And Matt LaFlor couldn't say enough good things about his quarterback's performance so far. He said, I think our quarterback's playing at a really high level

right now. Well, like he has his entire career, but he's playing really, really lights out. And we're just playing good team football anytime there's what's deemed a controversial decision or whatever you have to answer the questions. But I like where we're at right now and there's a lot in front of us. I know that. Well, they play a really

good defense this week and one of, I think the best coordinator in the NFL is either, I'll just say Todd Bowles is in my top two. So this is not going to be So they've faced, the Packers this year have faced the 30th ranked defense, the 29th, the 28th, and the 26th. Now they face the second. No, this will be a good test for the Packers.

Real test for Greenback. And I was very wrong about the backers. And it wasn't really that I doubted Aaron Rogers because I never doubt Aaron Rogers. You didn't think they were going to be bad. We just didn't think we were going to be 13 and 3. No. And I thought that the controversy in the offseason with the draft and with Jordan Love and all the questions that surrounded it, It just kind of felt like this might be one.

The relationship between Matt Liff, Lorne, Aaron Rogers might not be as cheeky as we, you know, as it appeared to be. They're saying everything's cool, but why is this happening? And, yeah, they're playing amazing football right now. This weekend of games is great. Oh, this is the, so Cleveland, Pittsburgh's great. Aaron against Tom is great. Buffalo, Kansas City, Monday night is great. There's another game I like.

think the Rams San Francisco is going to end up being really, really good because they were so bad last week, the Niners were. Yeah, Gropolo was a little better. They were so bad. That line's only like a field goal now. Watch San Francisco. When teams get embarrassed, good teams, watch them come back and give the Rams

fits this week. I still think Russell Wilson is leading the MVP conversation just because he's overcoming more. Easily. But Aaron Rogers is definitely right there with him. Yes. So the Eagles have the challenge of taking on the Lamar Jackson and the Ravens this weekends.

And defensive coordinator, Jim Schwartz, talked about how difficult it is to plan for a player as dynamic as Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is probably the most dangerous player in the league because there are times you can do everything on everything right on defense and can't catch him. I think that you gotta have a resilient attitude when you play him and you know that a playmaker

like him is gonna make some plays. You just have to limit his big plays. Yeah, that's a lot of. good way. Just don't let the previous play beat you again because he's going to pop. He's going to burn you at some point. This is a, this, this looks like a loss for the Eagles. This is one of my blazing five picks. Is it?

I like Baltimore a lot this weekend. Oh, okay. Yeah, they lost the Steelers last weekend, obviously 38 to 29. But this is, that's rough to go off of a loss like that to the Steelers into Baltimore. more. This is this. So the Eagles schedule coming up. Obviously they have the,

they just lost the Steelers. They have the Ravens. So they have the Giants week after that. So that could be a nice little get back game. And then the Cowboys. That's in division games. I think Philadelphia is better than Dallas. I think their defense will decide that game.

So I take Philadelphia over Dallas. Yeah, I do not. I disagree with you there. But then they play the Giants again. And then they have the Browns. So then it gets a lot more difficult after that. It's just, it's been a really rough start for the Eagles. and to come off of that Steelers' loss into the Baltimore Ravens who played great this last week.

And obviously, you have Lamar Jackson. I don't know. I'm thinking it could be a rough stretch for the Eagles. It's weird. I like a lot of great quarterbacks. I'm starting to see a trend in the NFL. And I've always love underdogs. But, man, there's a lot of favorites this week.

There's a lot of – Mahalms only has to give up a field goal here. And Lamar only has to give up a touchdown here. I don't know. I've always been a take the underdog guy, but I... Yeah, you usually do. But you start looking around the league, and I, despite what happened to Kansas City last weekend, I'm like... But there were a lot of blowouts last weekend. Yeah, I'll tell you something.

We got to revisit what Tennessee is. Because Tennessee and Baltimore, to me, I don't see a big gap. They were really impressive last night. Missing eight players, two coaches blew out a really good Buffalo team. Finally, Ben Rathesberger was critical of his performance Sunday against the Eagles. he needs to connect more on deep throws. And Mike Tomlin believes Ben's self-criticism this year

stems from getting a new perspective on the game after sitting out for most of 2019. Sometimes, you know, when you have the perspective that he has now, you know, he watched the bulk of football in 2019. And oftentimes when you get removed from your role and you get to watch it from a different perspective, it might change your perspective on performance

It's an evaluation thereof. I think that Ben has been really impressive since he's been back. I didn't know what to expect from him. He's completion percentage has gone up. He looks good. He looks like he's a little thinner. He's in better shape. He's 69.9 completion percentage.

Yeah. 1,016 yards, 10 touchdowns and 1 interceptions. With a lot of young receivers? And therefore no. He's been good. By the way, let me help all you TV executives that hang around all day and get big contracts and just eat donuts. When Mike Tomlin retires, hire him on television.

Yeah. He is going to be so good on, he talks in eight second soundbites. He's literally, like if you, in football, when you're an analyst, you have to talk in eight second soundbites. He is literally been doing it for 20 years. He's also just, he has the ability to go from such an like intense, like, quietly intense person. Yeah. So when he gets in front of the microphone, it's like this explosion of energy. It's such a. John Gruden was that. John talked in

eight second soundbys. That's why John Gruden was a television star. Mike Tomlin is Gruden. Yeah, he's amazing. He's a defensive version of John Gruden. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News.

Maybe Nick Wright won't be as obnoxious this week. Kansas City got rolled at home. I'll get to that in a second. What's it like to lose football games? I don't know. For 20 years, I didn't know what it was like in Kansas in New England. living up there in Connecticut. Let's not waste any time brought to you by a Mercedes Ben's the best or nothing.

You know what? I'm not going to start with the Chiefs. There's no reason to rub it in. Friends, don't rub it into friends. I'm not even going to go to Mahomes initially. It didn't look very good to me. There's a lot of trouble in Kansas City, obviously. But let's start with this.

Yeah, he's certainly not Tannahill, who I heard your owed to this morning. Yeah, my home's no Tana Hill. You're right. Go ahead. Start wherever you want. Okay. LeBron's legacy. Most people are saying, yeah,

He was always, it's like Tiger Woods winning another golf tournament. It doesn't change his legacy or anything. You know, great's great, whatever. I can, I kind of, that's kind of my feeling on it. But you do think this is sort of adding a little bit, more than a little bit to LeBron's legacy. Of course. Yeah. I mean, of course it is.

The guy's 35 years old. He's in year 17 and he just shot 59% in the finals. he was better on twos in this finals, Colin, than any players in these playoffs, than any player has been in any playoffs ever. So think about that. LeBron was better on twos than any Shaquille O'Neal playoff run

when all he was doing was dunking on Rick Smith's head. So, yeah, I know we live in this world where Michael Jordan can gain more legacy points for having a documentary come out than LeBron can for winning a damn title. But I'm not going to abide by it. And I'm not going to let folks act like, oh, this was a fait accompli. No one doubted this team when some of my favorite media personalities picked against them in every single round.

Well, let me say this. I mean, now, LeBron's out there now, Nick. He is gloating. He's on social media. He's dead lighten his cigar. I mean, isn't he above all that nonsense? No. And I thought, listen, everyone's focused on the,

and I want my damn respect. And that was a great line. But the next part I thought was the most telling. Because what he immediately followed that up with is, I never missed a playoff game. And that is an unprecedented and unbelievable streak. 260 out of 260 times his teams have had to tip off for the NBA playoffs. He has been out there.

Not one twisted ankle, not one dislocated shoulder, not one time was he not there for his team. And listen, I think it's relatively easy early in your career when you are trying to prove yourself to make sure at the very least all always be there. Not to compare myself to LeBron, but I will just for a moment. I've never missed a day of television, ever. I've never taken an extra vacation day. The show wasn't off. I've never called in sick because I'm still trying to make my way. But at one point, you know, God willing, if I'm ever calling Cowherd, maybe I also will be vacationing in Utah quite often. Who knows? LeBron don't do that.

LeBron's just there. He's like, I don't know who else is going to be there. But I'm I am going to be there every single day for my team, and I'm going to, for the last decade, every year except for the year he tore his groin, play in the final game of the season, and leave no question whatsoever who the best player still is. You know, it's interesting. I was saying this bubble was a lot of things, but it made me, it honestly, because I do think leadership is part of being great, just like quarterback play, nobody ever talks about pre-snap reads.

And I think that's why Russell Wilson is like the best football player in the earth. Mahomes just has more quarterback talent, but Russell's literally audibly out of trouble. Like he doesn't even throw in completions now. LeBron's leadership in the bubble was unbelievable. And after this bubble, I never thought I would say this. I think the gap is greater between LeBron and the second player. As he goes into his 18th year, and I never thought I would say that. I honestly think seconds Kauai.

You do. Well, think about this. So you said the second's Kauai. I think KD would be the obvious choice, but we got it, what KD are we getting? It's 32 years old coming off in Achilles. It's tough. The gap between LeBron,

let's call it Kauai and Kauai, is greater than the gap between Kauai and the ex-best player. The eighth best player, Luca Dantzich, the 10th best player Jimmy Butler? Like, think about that. The gap between,

this is where you use Tiger Woods as an example earlier. At one point in his career, the gap between Tiger and the second best golfer in the world was bigger than the gap between the second best golfer

Phil Mickelson and the 20th best golfer Sevi Bisteros, whoever the hell it was. That only seems to be growing, and Sevi Biasteros probably was a little old by then, but you know what I'm talking about.

Yeah, yeah. Like that only seems to be growing. seems to be growing. And so I do think I, listen, LeBron does not need six rings to be better than Michael Jordan. But for those folks that say he will,

you've got to recognize if right now, Colin, if I set his over under on rings at five, not five and a half at five, which side are you taking? What do you think is more likely? He never wins another one

or he wins two? I think it's clearly the over. I think if you set it at five, you have to take the over. Because how are you going to bet on him not winning another ring? How are you going to bet on him win? Worst case scenario for him, when he's 40, he can be a rich man's Jason Kidd. And Jason Kidd's the 42nd greatest player of all time. And he can just be that forever if he wants to.

So I just, I don't know how his game is going to age entirely, but I know barring horrifying injury, it's going to age beautifully. Two football topics. Number one, I always had one concern about Brady. Intense, detailed, buttoned up environment. He's an overachiever aspirational. And he goes to cocktails at 530, Lucy Goosey, Ebor City Fund Tampa. I didn't care about changing offenses or coaches. What I cared about is the culture in Tampa has a very low standard. And having lived in Connecticut, the culture is academic, it's prep schools, the Bruins win, the Red Sox win, the Patriots win, the Celtics win.

Winning is absolutely, there is no content. You win or you're a loser. And in Tampa, you get to the playoffs to celebrate. And he yells at a teammate. Six days later, people are still asking about yelling at a teammate. I think it is something. I do think this is going to be a struggle. Am I wrong?

No, so I agree with almost everything you said. I don't know if I'd lump the Celtics in with the winners. They have won title since the Berlin Wall fell, so they're kind of holding the rest of the city down. But otherwise, you're spot on. So a couple things here, Colin. One is this. While there was so much quetching last year about Brady doesn't have weapons,

he doesn't have enough help, doesn't have enough help. What he did have was the most detail-oriented, well-coached, precise team in the league. And now he's in Tampa, he's got all these weapons, and they're constantly in third and 15, because the center head butts a guy, and it's not sitting so well with him. Where I will defend Tom's teammates to a degree is this. If you are going to demand perfection or execution or attention to detail from your teammates, it's probably best that the only two categories that you lead the league in, not be pick sixes and forgetting what down it is.

So maybe Brady should be a little better if he's going to dog cuss his teammates, but in general, I agree with you. Well, that felt kind of cheap, but funny nonetheless. Okay, finally, I don't know. You know, we're getting kind of used to Mahomes falling into these crevices and these deficits, and this past weekend he couldn't get out of it. And listen, we know Kansas City's got a lot of brainpower and offense and a lot of talent and their coordinators always get head jobs.

But, you know, a little sloppy to me. One of these holes you couldn't dig out, aren't you a little troubled? Little trouble by what you saw against the Raiders? Oh, I'm bummed because they had a real shot at 21 straight wins, which is the 0304 Patriots record. Once they got through Baltimore, that was on the table. Instead, it snaps at 13, so they're going to have to start a new streak. The streak of never losing a football game by more than one score

since Mooms has taken over, though it was still alive. So I'll take some solace in that. Also, I thought it was very cute. How many people were very, once they lost the Raiders. Oh, and you know who's next? Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. Watch out the next face of the AFC. And then they get their teeth kicked down their throat

on national television by Ryan Dan Hill and company, and we're just going to, you know, ignore that for a bit. So listen, the Chief's offensive line has to be better. Yes. The defense against the Raiders played the worst game it's played in two years. so they need to snap back into it. But I think right now it is a little in vogue to say, oh, you know, the Chiefs, maybe a little overrated.

I would just venture to the audience or anyone thinking that. If I say I will take the Chiefs, you can have any other team in the AFC. Is that a deal you're taking? My guess is no, because they did dominate the Ravens. I know, Colin, all of a sudden, you really like Tennessee. prior to last night, their three wins had come by.

It combined six points, so I'm going to hold out a valuation on them, and we'll get to see them play the Buffalo Bills here this coming Monday night. So I'll still take the Chiefs versus the AFC field, and we'll see how it works out. But unfortunately, they're not going to go 16 and 0. I thought they could. They're not going to win 21 straight.

I think 14 and 2 is probably going to have to be enough. I mean, look at him. The Chiefs are winning Super Bowls and the Lakers are winning. Look at him. When my teams win, I'm humble. I'm just very gracious. I mean, he has a good six months. And look at him here.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, you have been handling Russell Wilson's MVP year with nothing but grace and a plumb. There's been no I told you so at any point. Check the tapes, America. Unbelievable. Get out of here. All right. Nick Wright, first things first.

I'll talk to you later. All right. Well, it's nice when your teams win. If he's got Lakers win in LeBron, he won a lot of little bets, personal bets on that. Yeah. Nick has the right to clip right about the clippers. He was right about the Lakers. He was right about the Lakers.

He's right about the Chiefs last year. He's got a good six-month run. Yes. Nobody's eight-month run. He's at, you know. Coming up next, they're getting along great. But there's a reason Aaron and his coach are getting along great. We'll talk about that coming up.

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And everything's going great. And the careers are great as they pretend to be stuff. They're really not. They don't really write it. They just perform it. And they're good looking and their cheekbones are perfect. And then one of their careers kind of, ooh, and then they don't like each other. Because, you know, actors, then instead of pretending, they really get a divorce.

Because all of a sudden there's bumps in the road. And it's not perfect. and the careers aren't on fire and everybody doesn't love them and they're not adored. And what am I talking about? Smart, good-looking, successful people. It's very easy to get along because people just stand at your feet and tell you how great you are. And Aaron Rogers and Matt LaFleuror, I saw a story this morning. They're just getting along great.

Well, yeah, because they don't throw interceptions or get sacked because they've played four crappy defenses. They've faced the 30th, 29, 28, and 26-ranked defense, and they've scored 30 plus points in all their games. of course Aaron Rogers and Matt LaFleur getting along. If they weren't getting along, you'd have real problems. You know when Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rogers never argued? You know when you never heard about their relationship going south? The year they won the Super Bowl and the year after they went 15 and 1. In fact, I've got an actual quote here.

Aaron Rogers. And I'm not picking on him, but he loved Mike McCarthy early. In fact, his quote was, you know, starting in 2010, that was year they won the Super Bowl. Thursday afternoon, Mike and I would spend anywhere from 90 minutes to four hours, talk about football in life, lessons, thoughts, and dreams. I really appreciated that time with Mike, getting to know him on a personal level. Mike McCarthy and Aaron would spend four hours together just talking about life and stuff. Because in two years, nobody could really beat them. I want to see Green Bay and Aaron this weekend face Tampa. That's a real defense. Aaron's

going to get sacked. He may get intercepted. They're going to have a lot of three and outs, and it's going to be ugly. And that's when a Hollywood couple can last. After the bomb, his career dovetails. She's the shining star in Hollywood, and he's now a character actor and can't get jobs. Then let's see how you get along. Let's see how these guys get along when they're not 13 and 3 last year. And let's see how they get along. Because they didn't get along very well when Jordan Love got drafted. They got along at the end of last year, and they're getting along now, and they're playing bad defenses and everything is great.

And I am not saying they can't win the game. And I am not saying they won't get along, but everybody gets along when your career's on fire and you're winning. And by the way, Brady tolerated all that Belichick stuff. Did you ever notice this? Until all of a sudden they couldn't find a wide receiver for Tom. Started getting frustrated. And they lost to Tennessee, and his pick sixes went up because his receivers couldn't separate.

And Edelman's drops the last two years in New England skyrocketed. And Gromk got old. And suddenly 18 years of listening to his mentor Bill Belichick, they don't want to listen to it quite as much. It wasn't as much fun. Patrick Mahomes looks pretty good. And Lamar looks pretty good. And the AFC's better.

And Buffalo's better. And Edelman's dropping it. And Gronk is old. And we can't draft the wide receiver. and suddenly Bill didn't get along. And Tom didn't get along. Like, they didn't want to hear Bill bark at him all the time and call him out in front of the team.

And everybody gets along when it's great. And you're winning in the NFL. It's like Jay Glazer always says. It's two different leagues. It's the you're driving to the stadium knowing you're going to win today or there's driving to the stadium no, you need to play perfect to win today. One's a great life and the other one is miserable.

It's a miserable existence in the NFL driving to the stadium knowing. And by the way, when Aaron's, and I'm not blaming Aaron, but when he and McCarthy started losing games and Aaron couldn't win as many playoff games, then all of a sudden those four-hour conversations where they talked about life and dreams turned into about 60 minutes of uncomfortable. All right, yeah, okay, yeah, you bet. I got to go. Come on. 2010, he's talking about, oh, he spent four hours together. Yeah, you went 15 and 1?

than the previous year you won a Super Bowl. Everybody gets along in the NFL that way. Hey, everybody. Tom and Belichick, when they're, Randy Moss and Welker and Super Bowls and Scorn and Tom's numbers and they got along great. Not so great when Edelman started dropping it and Grong started getting old. Okay.

Joel Clatt and Will Blackman next hour. Will is a wine sommelier. He's very smart. And Joel Clat, you know, he just thinks he knows a lot about college football. Somebody at this company has got to set Joel Clatt straight. This is my job. This is what I've been born to do. Take Joel Clatt and kind of shame.

This is the way you should think. He doesn't want to listen, but I hope you enjoy that. Plus, Emmanuel Sanders is stopping by today. Danny Green, who on games, one night in L.A., they couldn't stand him. The next night, they loved him. Danny Green missed a little three-point or no good. Next night, wearing a crown. We love him.

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