The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 1 - Tom Brady is getting annoyed

Episode Date: January 24, 2023

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We've got some big news we're going to reveal later in the show. Big news? Well, I will at least. Okay. Yeah, I think some fans in the Northwest will be very excited. Okay. You know what I mean. Okay, very excited for all this.

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The Crip. I'm just trying to be cool and sound fun. So NFL executive says, Russell Wilson is washed amid the Sean Peyton rumors. I have been told the Broncos have made a decision. They want Sean Peyton. Russell Wilson has told the Broncos owners he wants Sean Peyton. Here's the dilemma.

According to an NFL exec, Denver's got the best tradition. The new owners seem aggressive. They're willing to spend. But I think Russell Wilson's washed and the lack of draft capital, holding them back. The defense is very good, but Mahalms and Herbert aren't going anywhere in that division. So, you know, you think to yourself, if Brian Daible can get Daniel Jones to the playoffs, can Sean Payton get Russell Wilson to the playoffs? Well, Herbert and Mahomes are not playing in the NFC East. But I think one of the things that Sean Peyton has to think about, and it's a real thing,

with Daniel Jones, there are some limitations, but they're football limitations. You know what you have. It's right in front of you. But with Russell Wilson, there's self-awareness issues, trying to simultaneously be a football star and elevate Sierra's career issues. There's the isolation issues from teammates. He's got his own office, that's an issue. And his own chiropractor, I'm told, that's an issue. A lot of this stuff is personality, emotional, family stuff. That's way harder.

The football stuff for a Brian Dable or a Sean Payton, that's not as difficult. Wasn't it a little bit, and I'm a Russell Wilson fan, wasn't it a little bit an eye-opener when he left the Seahawks and former teammates, some of them offensive? Use words like fake, isolated, not approachable. There are so many things to like about this, and they'll probably pay upwards of 25 million for Sean Payton, but I think I'd pass. Evaluating quarterbacks is certainly not an exact science. I couldn't stand Zach Wilson as a prospect.

Joe Douglas of the Jets, a sharp, shrewd young GM loved him. I met somebody last week, former NFL coach, loved Zach Wilson. Again, I'm just a radio TV guy. I couldn't stand him as a prospect. I didn't like Baker Mayfield as a prospect. I didn't love James Winston as a prospect. prospect. I don't know more than GMs. It's in exact. You're not really sure. But here's the one thing that is exact. All the great ones, all of them have like an approachable feel, kind of

relatable, one of the guys, go out drinking on a Tuesday night. You can put your arms around them. That's like the opposite of what you're hearing from former Seahawks and some current Broncos. a couple of players late in the year did defend Russell Wilson. You've got to be a unifier. One of us, relatable, approachable, can't have your own doctor and chiropractor and therapist. And I look at NFL quarterbacks who have often had their careers implode. It's not the football stuff. Tyler Murray, it imploded.

It was the personal stuff. Jay Cutler, personal stuff. liked him. Jeff George. I know a lot of you don't know who Jeff George is. World-class arm talent. Not enough people liked him. Baker Mayfield, butchered the podium. Zach Wilson in New York. I saw a story this weekend. They were rejoicing when he got benched. It's not the football stuff. An older Aaron, an older Russell Wilson, sometimes not viewed as unifiers, aloof. Don't spend off-season with the young guys. I don't know.

I think with Russell Wilson, Denver wants Sean Payton. Russell Wilson want Sean Payton. I think the deal would be done today if Sean Payton said, all right, I'm your coach. And he may. I've got to pay a lot of money. The defense is good. And there's some really nice weapons. A star running back got injured.

He's back. Tight ends are solid. Receivers are beyond solid. They got a good left tackle. But there's so many hoops to jump through. and sometimes it's just easier to have football stuff to deal with, not like personality stuff. Has Green Bay ever truly figured out Aaron Rogers?

I don't think they have. And those are smart, capable people. They go into meetings with him. They've been around him for 15 years. They still can't quite nail him down on the personality stuff and the off-season stuff. I think of I'm Sean Payton. 25 million is a lot of money. I think I'd pass.

All right. So speaking of Aaron Rogers, it's now no longer just a rumor. Ian Rappaport is an excellent reporter. He is saying what many others are saying, trading errands on the table. Now, obviously, Aaron's very, very expensive. But a couple of years ago, Jerry Jones said something. And it really stuck with me. He was talking about Dax contract. And although at the time, I thought it was too much for DAC. His point on paying for nice things is accurate. Here's Jerry. The truth is, most anything that I've ever been involved in that ended up being special I overpaid for every time to the end. Anytime I've tried to get a bargain, I got just that. It was a bargain in a lot of ways. up to standard by the way you know who got a bargain at quarterback this year the Steelers with Mitch Trevisky they stole him the Falcons stole Marcus Mario dawn Panthers did with Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield yeah they got a bargain all right I don't know how you look in the AFC like a Tennessee Titans New York Jets and you see

Mahomes and Alan and Lamar and Burrow and Trevor Lawrence I don't know how you look at your current quarterback situation and feel good about it. The only way to get value at quarterback, Jalen Hertz, draft them. That's it. And most teams that draft a quarterback know you got to have like Mike Tomlin's security or Bill Belichick security to withstand the two or three growing pain years. Otherwise, you've got to go to the market and pay. Like I look at the Jets. Really good roster, desperate for a quarterback.

and they're not paying any of their top five or six offensive players, anything. He fits. New York, Aaron Rogers. He's not going to be overwhelmed by it. I don't know. Also, I think Green Bay would be fine. The Bears, defensive head coach, defensive culture, lost 10 straight. Offense is an absolute mess.

Minnesota won 11 and 0 in one possession games, one score games. They're the easiest team to predict a pullback next year. They're not going to 11 and 0 and 1 score games. Just like the previous year, they lost 8 one score games. They'll probably be 5 and 5, 6 and 4 and 6. They're going to pull way back. And Detroit, I like their story, but they haven't won the division since the early 90s. I think it was 93.

I think it's 30 years ago exactly. I may be wrong. So I think Green Bay would be fine. If Jordan Love was a B-minus quarterback, in that division, you will absolutely contend for a playoff spot. Oh yeah, with Aaron this year, you didn't make the playoffs. I think it makes sense for Green Bay. You get a first round pick this year, maybe a couple of seconds.

You've got a nice roster. You could use another tight end, another edge rusher, maybe a wide receiver. But Jordan's not making any money for two years, at least one year, so you can handle Aaron Rogers' dead cap hit. but how in the world in the AFC can you look at that Mount Rushmore and then some roster of young star quarterbacks

generational talents in their prime and go we're good here Tennessee you're not Miami you're not Jets you're not take a big swing and Green Bay ripped a Band-Aid off every time Jerry Jones has

sought a bargain it's exactly what he got Falcons got one this year Steelers got one this year Carolina got two this year. Got a bargain at quarterback. It's all you have. All right.

A lot of stuff going on today. McIntyre said he has a big announcement. I have no idea what it is, so I'm very excited for that. I just wanted fact check something here real quick. I have it in my notes, which you just said. I just want to confirm I heard correctly. If you're Sean Payton and Denver offered $25 million, you think you'd pass. Yeah.

Okay. Because Denver's going to pay probably $18 to $17 million for somebody else. will reset the market and you'd make 20 to 25 next year with a better situation. How do you know there's a better situation next year? Well, first of all, I know what Belichick makes today and what he makes 10 years ago. So the market gets reset constantly. The NFL coaching market, there is no salary cap. So it gets reset all the time based on, you know, Jim Harbaugh next year comes in.

So Harbaugh, I was told they would have gotten about 18 million. Payton will get closer to 25 million. But Sean Payton does very well here. the market just keeps going up. It's not like Sean would be offered nine next year. He's going to be the best coach on the market this year and next year. Who's available? I guess the question would be,

are you certain that a good job with a potential Hall of Fame quarterback, which is what Russell Wilson is, is going to be open. Let me ask you this. Sean McDermott. This happens again next year. You and I would take Sean McDermott. I would dump McDermott now. So would I.

They won't do that in Buffalo. Let me ask you this. Chargers don't make the playoffs. I mean, you got Mahomes. I mean, I'm just saying. But the opposite is true. Chargers could face the bills in the AFC championship game, you know? It's possible.

And then neither of those jobs are Sean Payton's at home. Your takeaway. Trying to come on my podcast or something. Come on. So you're a young broadcaster podcaster. So when somebody just says, here's a bunch of money, your natural inclination is take it. No, no, no, no, no, not all the ways.

I'm not a bad. I'm a believer in follow good management. there's a sea of money. Sean Payton is doing just fine. I'd rather ask yourself this. Would you rather take a better situation at 18 or the Broncos at 24? Nothing against Dan. But there is no situation at 18.

Seven coaches a year get whacked. Seven. It's fair. You think next year's the year nobody gets fired. I mean, you know, Robert Salick. I mean, I'm just saying, I had this discussion with Sean.

I actually had this discussion with Sean because he was interviewing and it's all out there. I'm not disclosing anything. Carolina is interviewed. And my takeaway, I'd take Arizona over Carolina and people think that's crazy. But Arizona's got a super talented quarterback. If you look at the history of the NFL,

they gave us, they give us one star quarterback a year. One. Now, because of the cultural changes, there's more good quarterback. it's up to one and a half, maybe two. Okay. You do realize every year eight teams need it. You may, how long did Miami, they still have never replaced Marino?

Yeah. Denver had to go by Peyton Manning, and for about two to three years, they got L. Yeah. So my takeaway is a job can be great. If you do not have a star at quarterback, it's over. I'm going to bolster your argument. Because I like you. I'm going to help your argument. Houston Texans get the number one pick and they get Caleb Williams.

Is that a better job than Carolina, Arizona, Denver? Yes. You know it is. Because look at the four quarterbacks left standing in the playoffs. None of their big money deals have kicked in yet. You need that quarterback on the rookie deal. Houston. That's going to be a great job next year, assuming they get the number one pick.

So my takeaway is Sean Payton. Would you rather go in with a ton of cap space for four years, draft capital and Caleb Williams, whoever gets Drake May, the kid from Carolina. He's another A plus. Next year we've got two Trevor Lawrence-ish level players. So stay at Fox.

You think you can solve everything. Russell Wilson's dilemmas are beyond football. There's the isolation, the self-awareness, the R's career. There's a lot of stuff that Sean Payton's not a therapist. He's a football coach. Now coaches all think they can do it all. They can't.

You've got to be it. So my point is if the league next year we're going to have multiple teams, not tanking, but multiple teams vying for Caleb Williams and Drake May. I don't remember a year, and I don't. It may be the Marino Elway year where we had two A-plus-plus candidates. These kids are great players. You don't get that. You get like a Trevor Lawrence and then a bunch of Justin Fields, Traylant, who could work in the right situation.

next year is two guys they're going to work and you fire the coach after a year if he can't figure it out. Like Trevor Lawrence was oh, Urban's not working. Get him out of here. This kid's going to win the division

with the right coach. Boom, they did, and they did. That's what Caleb Williams and Drake May are. Those guys are different. I like that idea of Sean Payton waiting a year for one of those two jobs. Or one of those two jobs

or the possibility of the seven other openings, one of them would have a good quarterback. So next year you get two, things. You get seven job openings. One should have a good quarterback and two superstar quarterback. What do they say? Patience is a virtue. That's right. So that could apply here to Peyton and Denver, no draft capital. Not enough picks. Quarterback issues. And we win too because that means Peyton gets to come on here and regale us with tails. Selfishly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm all in on that.

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Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So I was reading an article yesterday by Tyler Dunn, who was sort of eviscerating Sean McDermott, the coach of the Buffalo Bills. And Sean McDermott did bring some stability to a chaotic locker room in Buffalo. Nobody's saying he's an awful coach. But we have a revolution going on in football in America.

And it's amazing to me. These billionaire owners aren't paying attention. I'll give you an example. So I'm going to tell you, I'm going to give you the most, that's the key word here, the most successful defensive head coaches this year. Sean McDermott went the furthest. He was routed at home in the playoffs, and they had absolutely no offensive identity for three and a half hours. It was a humiliating effort.

The second most successful defensive coach this year was Brandon Staley. Epic second half meltdown. Scored three points, second half. No offensive adjustments with Justin Herbert. The third most successful defensive coach was Pete Carroll, who was routed by the Niners, six points in the second half. No offensive adjustments.

The next most successful coach was Todd Bowles. He trailed at one point with Tom Brady, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and a healthy or offensive line, one to six. The next three most successful defensive coaches this year, many finished in last place, were Mike Tomlin at 9 and 8, Ron Rivera at 8, 8, and 1, and Belichick at 8 and 9. In all three, the offense struggled at times pathetic. A baseball manager can understand pitching and hitting. So can a hockey coach and NBA coach, MLS. You can understand both sides of the sport. It's not that way with football. It's not. Bill Parcells. Sean Payton tells you

stories. Bill's a psychological guru and a brilliant organizer. They didn't know offense. Didn't even understand quite the language. Belichick does not know offense. Can't draft it, can't develop it. Think about this. Nine of the ten best offenses in the NFL made the playoffs. 90%. Five of the top six second half. offenses, made the playoffs, including Brian Daibble, who's dealing with Daniel Jones at quarterback. You're not maximizing your opportunity to win in professional football with a defensive culture. It's like not shooting the three in basketball. You're just not maximizing your opportunity.

San Antonio's been stubborn. They're awful. Golden State never was. They're great. you start looking around at the, it's not just a defensive coach, it's the culture in the building. Chicago, historically, a defensive culture. The offense is a disaster. Let me name some teams that spend the most money on defense in the NFL.

Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Seattle, Titans, Chargers, Shocker, all defensive coaches. The world has changed. billionaires. Hello, anyone watching? That doesn't mean every defensive coach wouldn't work. I still think you need a great defensive coordinator. When I talked to Sean Payton about the Denver job or Arizona, he had his defensive coordinator all picked and ready to go.

But when you watch Mike Zimmer, a respected defensive coach, leave Minnesota, highly respected. A kid, a former player, becomes offensive coach, and they go from the team that lost the most one-bossession games in the league to the team that went 11-0 in one-bossession games. Are you paying attention? It is the three-point shot 12 years ago. You are literally not maximizing the sport if you've got your money on the defensive side,

Pittsburgh and Seattle, your defensive coach, a defensive. culture in the building, you talk about toughness and run games and, oh, that's adorable. Nine of the top ten offenses make the playoffs, the teams that adjust at halftime. You watch Buffalo. What was that? First series, Josh Allen, at home, three and out. Stefan Diggs disappeared. Didn't use Josh Allen's legs in the first half.

It's not that Sean McDermott can't coach. It was pathetic. I mean, it was, it was. I don't even know what it was. Defensive coach. Defensive culture. Defensive draft pick. Look at Buffalo.

Two great offensive players. Rest them are on defense. Humiliated at home. J. Mack with the news. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So the Cincinnati Bengals obviously on the cusp of back-to-back Super Bowl trips. They'll have to beat the chief said Arrowhead to make it happen.

But they have won three in a row over Patrick Bahams and Andy Reid. Joe Burrow says this season's Bengals team is better than last year's. Here's what he had to say. I think we're a more complete team. I think we're a better team. And we just seem to make plays when it counts. It's all there is to say. I think our line is better.

I think our run game is better. I think our defense is better. I just think our special teams is better. were just overall a much better team than we were last year. I totally agree. I think they, and by the way, they have playoff experience. That helps. Zach Taylor.

I think they're a significantly better team. They are a two and a half point favorite in Kansas City. It's moved up. Well, yeah, Fox Pet has it one and a half, but in Vegas, it's two and a half. And I don't know if that means somebody knows something about Baham's ankle, but Colin, the matchup just has favored Cincinnati the last three times these guys have met. Andy Reed has kind of been shut down in the second half. I was looking back at some of them and like, yes, they're close games.

But Joe Burrell has been like unstoppable against Kansas City. Like the Spagnolo defense just is not working? To me, if the line moves from one and a half to two and a half in Vegas, Vegas always feels like it's hours ahead of the market, the Mahomes injury. Right? Like you saw him limping on handoffs and that's during the game when he's got adrenaline. How do you think it's going to feel totally? Tomorrow, Wednesday.

We'll see what the practice reports say when the media gets in there. But one quick word on the Bengals. So they went and spent lavishly on the offensive line. Two of those guys are hurt. I know. It's a damn good thing they spent, Colin, because now they got like credible backups behind the big money guys. And they also drafted the Clemson tackle. Jackson Carman, who was outstanding against Buffalo.

Listen, he'll have his hands full this week. It's a little bit of a tougher matchup. Frank Clark and Chris Jones on that line is going to be tough. Chris Jones is really, really good. Speaking of the Chiefs, they beat the Jags. Obviously last week, Mahomes had the high ankle spray and it will surely impact his play. Mahomes has said he'll play, but Andy Reid doesn't want to make any decisions just yet. Here's Andy Reid on the latest from Mahomes.

How encouraged are you by the past two days of treatment? Yeah, no, he's worked hard in the treatment and it was doing okay. I mean, he mentioned it to you that he's going to play. So, I mean, that's his mindset. And then we'll just take it day by day and see how he does. I've got to see how he feels. You know, when we get ready for practice. Yeah, he'll play.

That's not the issue, apparently. The issue is mobility and extending plays. And there you go. I don't know, Colin. I'm getting worried about Mahal. And that kind of stinks, right? You don't want an injured Pat Mahomes in the AFC championship game. We want to see him at full strength.

I don't see Chad Hennie for three quarters. Yeah, I don't think we will. This stuff's not linear. Brady went 10 years without winning a Super Bowl. With Belichick, with great defenses, with Dante Scarnikia. It's hard. And I don't want to be like look-ahead guy. But Patrick Mahomes, his new deal kicks in next year.

No question. Both their tackles are free agents. A couple receivers, Jerich McKinnon. Here's the other thing. They couldn't keep their top corner. Ward goes to the Niners. He's great. They couldn't keep Tyree.

kill. You and I have been talking about this off air. Dallas is in a precarious situation. Dak is the number two quarterback cap hit next year. Zeke, who's not even a top 15 running back in the league, is a maybe top, maybe top 50, not top 10. He's the number two running back cap hit. And so, and Tony Pollard, they can't afford. Dulton Schultz, they probably don't afford. Well, they're going to have to probably franchise tag one of those two. I guess it would be Pollard, right? Or, I mean, I like Tony Pollard a lot. Maybe more so than the average guy. Outside of CD Lamb, he's their home run hitters.

Super dynamic. And they also have to draft another receiver and another tight end. For my mock draft for Fox Sports, Dolton Kincaid, who you know well from Utah. Oh, yeah, big boy. I mean, he's a plug-and-play guy. He's like 23 years old. He's not this young guy who doesn't know what he's doing. So there are players out there to rebuild quickly if Dallas wants to.

And final story, Brock Purdy. Boy, what a run. Seven and O mark as the starter since Jimmy G. went out. Purdy's thrown 14 touchdowns, only two interceptions, and now looks to become the first rookie quarterback to ever start and win a conference title game. Colin, man, Brock Purdy, one of the great draft steals of all time. Look at these numbers for rookie quarterbacks in conference championship games. It ain't pretty, to say the least.

We got them on the screen here. It's been awful. And you've got to go on the road, Philadelphia, a top flight defense. It's a tall order for Purdy. I know. It's what I said yesterday. It just feels like Philadelphia is the side. I think we're going to go head to head on this one.

At the top of the hour. So every time we get to a huge game, I go get my yellow piece of paper, who are the 10 best players in the game? So I'm going to do it today at the top of the hour. So is it not 10 best career? No, right now. Go to PFF level-ish.

It's opinion. It's what we watched. It's momentum. It's health. Who are the 10 best players in this? Niners, Eagles game. And almost always, whoever's got a six, four, seven, three advantage wins the game. So I'm very curious to see if Brock Purdy is one of the 10 best player. Hasn't lost 14 touchdowns, two picks. Now, I'm not saying he's an amazing franchise quarterback,

but right now, the way he's playing, listen, close game against Dallas, touchdown drive in the second half to win the game? Like, the guy's making plays, Colin? Dallas's defense was good. Dan Quinn had a good game plan. Oh, Dallas played. I thought the Dallas-Niner game looked exactly like we both thought it would look like. Yeah, Purdy's not making mistakes. I don't know if he's top ten. We'll see. I think you'll be surprised by the... Number one has to be both, the defensive player. Well, we'll see. I'm not giving stuff. You're not giving away your big surprise.

I don't even know what your big surprise is. I'm not giving away. All right, there we go. J-Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. So we'll do that top of the hour with Nick Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. This is Steve Covino and Rich Davis.

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on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sunday, it's the NFC championship game presented by Intuit TurboTex.

As the 49ers take on the Eagles with a trip to Super Bowl. 57 on the line. It all kicks off at 3 Eastern noon Pacific with pregame coverage starting at 1 p.m. Eastern only on Fox and the Fox Sports app. Can't wait. By the way, a little story, Tom Brady, according to page six, is that the New York Post? New York Post, correct. Didn't you work for the New York Post or something? I did not work for it. I've been written about it in the New York Post. But you didn't work for them? I did not work for them. Okay. Tom Brady's been spotted in Miami checking out private schools for his kids. Now, remember, Brady had a deal with Miami before it blew up in the Brian Flores lawsuit to be like an owner.

He was going to go there with Sean Payton. When you're in the East Coast and you're a Californian, Miami's very attractive. It's the one East Coast city that's got really nice aqua water, no state tax. Miami has always felt like, so this is what I've said, even Kirk Cousins. Derek Carr and Brady work in Miami because it's a distribution offense. Brady at this point in his career needs elevation. He needs protection. Tom is no longer taking Julian Edelman and making him a borderline Hall of Famer. That's not what he's doing. Tom got to Tampa. He knew what he needed. Right tackle. Gronk. A.B. Lenny Fernette. Tom needs protection. This is a distribution offense. Tom Brady doesn't miss starts. He doesn't miss starts. So to me, Miami, that coach, that distribution, that, you and I have said this. This is where if I was Derek Carr, I would go in a heartbeat.

If I was Kirk Cousins, now they're not going to go after Cousins. They'll go over Tua over Kirk Cousins. But I do think Derek Carr, you would have to think strongly. Send Tua to the Raiders. You go, you go Derek Carr. I think you'd have to consider it. Jimmy Garoppolo obviously has a relationship with McDaniel dating back to San Francisco. Jimmy Garoppel makes sense as well.

Now, we have a bite from Tom Brady. He was on his own podcast with Jim Gray. He's getting very grumpy. And Brady clearly has not resolved his decision on what he's going to do this upcoming season. Tom, you're leaving everybody guessing. You've said you'll take your time. Do you have any type of a timetable as to, what you might want to do regarding your football career.

Jim, if I knew what I was going to do, I'd have already done it. I'm taking a day at a time. I sense you're antagonized by the question. You're scratching. It's only the question that everybody wants to hear. You're scratchy. I appreciate you're asking. Thank you.

I will say this. Tom to Miami makes sense. His former home, New England, hired Bill O'Brien yesterday. So he's the offensive coordinator, second time around for the Patriots. He was a coordinator at Alabama. He's a competent offensive coordinator. He knows what he's doing. So I was saying this morning to the team, I said,

New England will be a playoff team next year. It's remarkable. New England was last in the league in red zone offense. Scored 30 points one time, Kansas City did eight times, that in this league now that has pivoted to offense, it's remarkable the Patriots were eight and nine. Had they beaten the Packers in overtime, an overtime game, they would have a winning record.

It's almost impossible in this league to have a winning record when you're awful offensively. That a DC was their OC. It doesn't make any sense. So seven of the 14 teams that made the playoffs this year are new. They did not make it last year. Ravens, Jags, Chargers, Dolphins, Vikings, Giant Seahawks. Next year, you're going to have six to seven new playoff teams.

The teams to keep your eye on that did not make the playoffs this year, and we're going to have six to seven because since 1990, you can go back 33 years, minimum of four plus make the playoffs that didn't. And now we've added some. here's the teams to me that feel like they'd be the leader on the clubhouse that didn't make it this year that would make it next year. I think New England number one. If you look at their defense, it was second in the NFL and takeaways. Belichick still regarded as the best defensive coach in the NFL.

Now they've got a competent offensive coordinator. And I think you'd be surprised if you Googled Mack Jones rookie, rookie numbers. They were really good for a rookie. he is now, this will be his third year in the league, I think New England makes the playoffs. Second, probably if T.J. Watt is upright, Pittsburgh. I do not buy Cleveland at all. Deshawn Watson's, I think, going to have the biggest cap hit in the league. I don't buy the front office. It's nothing against Andrew Barry. The ownership worries me. I don't buy Cleveland. Kenny Pickett, in five of the last six games, he was healthy, won each of them.

In fact, it's won each of his last five healthy games, my bad. I think the Broncos, if they hire Sean Payton, remember three of their best players running back Javonte Williams, receiver Tim Patrick, and Garrett Bowles, the left tackle, all return, all missed this year. So not only Peyton, not only Russell Wilson in year two with a better coach, but they have three offensive players, a left tackle, a receiver, and a running back that would all be added next year. You're looking at me. Yeah, yeah. Raiders, Chargers out.

Chargers out? I don't think it's going to work. I would say lions were a very good football team. Now, their defense is atrocious, but this draft, because they've got the offense figured out, they can just go defense. Hutchinson is a really nice pass rusher. They've got to get better on the defensive interior, and they need another corner. But Jared Goff, with protection in his career, is a B-plus quarterback.

He's a very, and they have a really good offensive line. The Rams had 13 different starting offensive lines. I do not believe that will be the case. There's nothing you can do. Stafford is back. I do think they will regain some draft capital by moving Jalen Ramsey for a first and a fifth or a first and a fourth. But they're going to, I've been told they're going to go heavy offense in the offseason and the draft. And the defense will be on their own.

They're going to load up with a tight end, a wide receiver, offensive linemen. They may get another running back. They're going to concentrate on McVeigh's side of the football. in the offseason. The Packers, the Vikings are not going to go 11 and O in one score games. Green Bay missed the playoffs by a fourth quarter. Chicago's still a mess. Minnesota is a big pullback. I think Detroit and Green Bay are more than competent, but I think they'll make the playoffs with Aaron Rogers and have a strong likelihood they will with Jordan Love if he's competent. Green Bay makes the playoffs. The roster's too good. LaFleur is competent. I think those

two young receivers are only getting better. Aaron Jones, Gary, the defensive lineman back. It's a really good roster. I don't love their special teams. Very competent front office. If they trade Aaron and get a couple of firsts, they'll hit on those as well. And I think you have to look at the Panthers, who both you and I said, if Brady leaves the division, their roster, pretty interesting.

They also have one of the richer owners. He'll go get a good coach. I mean, Sean Payton respectfully is interviewing with him. in a division with the Saints, all his friends. I think they would pay for a car. They would pay for a Garoppolo and a defense. They've got some weapons we like on the outside. They've got a really nice front seven.

This is not a great division. I think if you gave them an offensive coach and Garapolo, and Brady leaves the division. So these would be my early liens. Now, we haven't had a draft. We haven't had free agency. But if you had to ask me today of the seven new teams, that feels like it.

So I want to pin you down. Who is coming out of the playoffs? That's the toughest part. In the AFC, I'm assuming you have dolphins falling out. I don't. This was only about naming the new guys, not dumping on the old guys. Listen, the NFC could get Seattle's coming out. Likeies are coming out.

Right. Minnesota. Right. You're not going to go. I mean, that's not a knock. I predicted they would be the most improved team they were. Let me make a prediction. They pull back.

New York Giants, are they going back to the playoffs? I think Daniel Jones will be better. I'll throw an at you. I don't think Dallas makes the playoffs. I think they're cap situations, a disaster. I don't think Dallas a playoff team. Philadelphia and the Niners are guaranteed because they're not paying their quarterbacks and their rosters are stacked.

So the Eagles and the Niners are bringing back that we know. We know Kansas City probably makes it Cincinnati. I'll throw it at you think's crazy. I'll just throw this out. Brady goes to Miami. Buffalo doesn't make it. Think I'm nuts. It's getting worse.

I don't hate that. Listen, they're going to have, they got a lot of questions defensively. Several starters, first of all, free agents. Do you see who? They're the classic defensive culture.

They have two expensive safeties and two expensive linebackers. Not much longer. I don't think. You got to move off that. You got to go spend some money and get a second receiver. You got to get a better tackle. Hey, I just thought of something as you were saying this.

you said San Francisco and the Eagles will be back there next year. I would agree 100%. What happens with Trey Lance in San Francisco? Try to get a third, fourth round pick. And do you then keep Garapolo and have a Garapolo Purdy tandem at quarterback? I don't think it's, yeah. I mean, I think that makes sense to me. How appealing is Trey Lance to a Tennessee who may not, you know,

we got a new guy in Tennessee who didn't draft Malik Willis? He wants to play. The kid didn't play much in college. So does Jordan Love. he wants to play. These guys want to play. Do you have Jordan Love as the starting quarterback with the Packers in the playoffs next year? Yeah, I think it's very possible.

Now, that's probably your spicyest take. Well, I'm not saying AFC. We're talking NFC. I know. And there's only one division next year that's guaranteed to be pretty awful. The NFC South. Right. If Brady leaves, it's tragic.

When? Let's just say when Brady leaves. He ain't staying. He's not staying there. He's not staying in Tampa. So he's moving on. Brady tends to be somebody that can see around corners. He's not coming back to Todd Bowles.

Also, would he win the division? Yeah, he did this year. It's not, I don't think it's that satisfying for him. I also like the, if Brady goes to the Raiders, are they a playoff team? No. Oh. They made the playoffs last two years ago with Carr. And I don't even remember the head coach's name.

Let me ask you this. If Sean Payton takes Denver, you think the Raiders are a playoff team. It's the fourth most talented roster. I'm not betting against Tom Brady. to make the playoffs in in uh Vegas oh I am him and McDaniels so his kids are going to be in private school in Miami oh now that gets that makes that's an interesting layer you think he's going to be 3,000 miles or whatever Vegas is I don't boy would you I can't get over Tom Brady's going to the dolphins and now the jets once again are going to be in the basement of the aFC East well there's

no guarantees I'm just just throwing it out it stink can the jets get Lamar Jackson can we speak that into existence or just no shot? I don't know. I'm not an insider. I had dinner with Sean Payton last week. I'm not an insider. I don't have boots on the ground every day. That's just a dinner with a famous person. Okay, we got a lot of stuff.

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