The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Tua To Be Released & Kenneth Walker Has A New Home

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

Jonas Knox & LaVar Arrington fill in for Colin as they react to the news that the Miami Dolphins will be releasing Tua Tagovailoa this Wednesday to be a free agent. Plus, the guys react to running... back Kenneth Walker III signing with the Chiefs as a huge domino to start free agency, we also have some more free agency news on the Herdline News, and more!! #2prosSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:36 You can hear LeVar and I, weekday morning, 6 a.m. Eastern time, 3 o'clock Pacific on a show called 2 Pros and a cup of Joe alongside Brady Quinn. But it is Stix and I, a little bit of black and drag on this Monday morning for some free agency frenzy and legal tampering. Yeah. You look great. I'll still never understand. Well, I'm overweight, but thank you. No, you look like. I feel relieved.
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Starting point is 00:05:49 All right, well, I guess that is the perfect transition. It is great transition. I mean, you know, from one toilet to another. It is perfect. To a tug of my law. And the Miami Dolphins are no more. Miami Dolphins have officially parted ways by releasing Tua. It is a $99 million dead cap hit, which is a record, NFL record. And apparently they're going to split it over the next two years because they're going to make him a post-June 1 designation, but he's going to make $54 million from the dolphins. And that'll be that for the Tua Tuga-Tugavai Loa experience with the Miami Dolphins, who I know a lot of people are,
Starting point is 00:06:32 are taking the shots or the victory lapse now because they look at it and they go, oh, well, you know, clearly he was the third best quarterback in that draft class when you consider he was next to Joe Burrow and he was next to Justin Herbert and all that. And Miami made a mistake. I get all that. Look, they tried. They wanted Joe Burrow. They didn't get him.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And then they chose to over Justin Herbert. Clearly, not the right choice, not the right decision. But I do think it also bears pointing out the concussions really changed. everything. Completely changed everything for the trajectory of Tua's career. And so because of that and other things, now Tua finds himself away from Miami, gone from the dolphins, and making $54 million this next year. Victory laps. I mean, if people want to take victory laps, that's not a that wasn't a hard race to run and win. I mean, I think a lot of people felt as though because of the cap situation that the Miami Dolphins were almost forced to try to
Starting point is 00:07:32 figure out what to do with Tua for another season at least. Bless you. And at the end of the road in this scenario, I think you have to take a good look at it and say, man, this is a record-breaking, record-setting cap-hit, dig-cap-hit loss in the league. And guess who set the record not too long ago? You got it? Do you got it? You know who said it?
Starting point is 00:08:01 Russell Wilson. set that record. So interestingly enough, coincidentally enough, Russell Wilson has not been the same quarterback. Is there any comparisons here? Let's see, you've got an undersized quarterback, didn't have a legitimate running attack to help him in the passing game. Passing game kind of took a dip and suffered. Sounds a little comparable in comparison, Jonas. and I would say my biggest question here is if I'm to a Tunga Voloa and I get to make $54 million guaranteed, I think, and that's before us structuring, right?
Starting point is 00:08:43 I think it might be more. It could be more. I'm not certain. I wish we had Q to be able to discuss the, you know, the details of the contracts. But with that being said, I'm just curious. curious as to what do you do? Isn't that the biggest question if you're too? What do you do?
Starting point is 00:09:05 If you make this amount of money and you got it as a parting gift, take care of your head, take care of your family. I'm not one to tell you what to do, but if I'm giving you advice on what I think would be the best thing for you to do, your game did take a change for the dramatics of not being as good once you were making sure you were limiting the amount of times you were hit? The reports are that the Falcons are going to pursue Tua. And the reason it would make sense for Atlanta is because you've got Michael Panix Jr. You got another lefty and Tua that you could bring in.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Kevin Stefansky is now the head coach there. He's done things with quarterbacks before and operated and done a really good job with quarterbacks and maybe people thought he couldn't get a lot out of, you know, case and point, Joe Flacco when he did it and brought him in and he won comeback player of the year, which still, by the way, one of the most amazing things and feats I've ever seen in my life. Joe Flacco won comeback player of the year for a partial season and he beat out a guy who almost died on the field year before. That's one of the great achievements in the history of the NFL. So Kevin Stefansky, there's some thought that he would bring into it. And the reason also financially why
Starting point is 00:10:25 it makes sense, similar to Kyler, is that because of the money that they're making from their former team, they can sign a low rate deal for a little over a million dollars because they're still going to get their full 50 plus million from his previous team. So if you're Atlanta and you want to create some competition, if you're not sold on Michael Pennix Jr., and you want to bring in another lefty to the fold, Tua to Atlanta would make some sense.
Starting point is 00:10:55 and you know you mentioned you know if you're Tua take care of your head take care of your health look we spent a long time talking about you know the Samoans the Tongans the Hawaiians they don't operate that way brother it's not that's not the way they operate it's a warrior mentality a warriors creed he's going to play and I think that that you know in part led to look he's not a big guy so yeah he should you know slide early do this but that's not that's just not the way he that's not the way he but i think he did avoid contact this past season and i think it did impact the way that his results were you know within the games he did not take hits and you didn't want to see him take any hits
Starting point is 00:11:44 and the seasons past where you saw those hits take place and he was on the ground and his fingers was doing the crib cips signs and throwing up you know gags signs out there on the field. Like that, that ain't it. That's not it. And sure, I would assume you're right in the fact that he will look at this and want to continue to play. But if I'm a team in the NFL, if I'm the Atlanta Falcons, the first thing I'm looking
Starting point is 00:12:11 at is his head injuries report. If I'm any team in the NFL, I'm looking at the head injury reports. And I just don't feel compelled. to take that chance. I think I could take that chance with a lot of other quarterbacks. And while there may be the opportunity or the potential
Starting point is 00:12:33 of what you could get out of to a coming to your team or even a safety valve considering to be maybe a safety net for someone like a Michael Pennix who's also injury prone, I think that I mentioned Russell Wilson earlier
Starting point is 00:12:52 and I mentioned him not because of the injury, I just mentioned that because of the falloff. Why take a chance on a player that you already saw the fall off taking place in Miami? I know you say coaches feel like they can save these guys and my system can develop them. And we have seen guys that didn't have great starts to their careers actually come back to life in a different setting.
Starting point is 00:13:17 If that happens, it's great. But I think the one determining factor here with two of that makes me tremendous pause is his head injuries. This isn't about if you can clean up and fix him playing the game, get better results from him as a quarterback. He's been a good quarterback. He's been a good quarterback. So it's not like he hasn't had success as a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:13:40 That's what led to him having this large contract to begin with. The biggest concern and the biggest issue and the reason why sometimes you got to save somebody from themselves, Tua probably isn't going to go into retirement after this, but he probably should. And if I'm a team and I'm looking at this, if I'm looking at a guy that because of head injuries probably should make the decision to walk away, he's got a great payday to go, you know, live the rest of his life and be comfortable with him and his family. You could do all the tongue and teas all you want, wherever you want, playing some beach catch play some catch with your kids
Starting point is 00:14:22 and with your family. You don't need to do it in the NFL. I'm just saying for me, hard line stands with that many head injuries and the way it looked playing out on national television for all to see over and over and over again multiple times.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Maybe the best decision to make is to move on with your life. He did take a shot this year. I forget who it was, but I think it was on a, it might have been a Thursday night game. I forget. There was a game I watched where he did take a shot.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Like it was a legitimate shot to the head and he got right back up. So I do think there's been some time since all of that was it. But what was your thought when you saw the hit? Oh, God. Like somebody called a medic. Okay. Yeah. So even if he got right back up, do you not think that there was an impact on him and on his head,
Starting point is 00:15:12 even though he was able to get right back up? It's the Alex Smith stuff. When Alex Smith came back from that gruesome leg injury he suffered, I remember the first game back he was playing against the Rams and I was watching with my head kind of turned when he got tackled the first time. It was Aaron Donald and I just thought to myself, man, bring him down and off his feet.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Like don't let his leg get planted. So there's always that that sort of cautious watch. And that's a leg. That's a leg. And so there's- You can move through life. Like I know because my pop. You can move through life with a little.
Starting point is 00:15:49 not being what it needs to be. Like, you can limp around. You can, you know, you can use the other hand. But your head? And I get it. It's a much different. It's a much bigger conversation when your head is involved. I also think that calls into question, you know, if all of that stuff was on the table,
Starting point is 00:16:09 why did the dolphins give him the deal they gave him after all that stuff was on the table? It's a very good, it's a good point to me. And I think the reason they did it is because they were sort of in this in-between, where he didn't show flashes of being the greatest quarterback in the league. You're not going to find a Mahomes or a Josh Allen and a Tua. But he did play, and you mentioned this, he did play good football. It's not like there was a thought that, you know, the Brian Flores experiment happened. And Brian Flores, for anybody that wants to, you know, kiss his ass and talk about,
Starting point is 00:16:44 oh, wow, he was right about Tua. No, he butcher that from the get-go. All right. He was pulling a rookie quarterback out of games early so that Ryan Fitzpatrick could finish it. Like that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Go through the growing pains. We talked about this for Fernando Mendoza. And then all of a sudden, Mike McDaniel gets there and he finds something with Tua.
Starting point is 00:17:07 He starts to play at a high level. Tua was good. The concussions derailed everything. Like he played at a high level. He played really good football. The concussions derailed. railed that stuff, got in the way. And then this past year happened.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And you knew that his time was limited in Miami, based on the fact that he started calling out teammates. His time was limited. He started... Total time. He started calling out teammates. There was some... And then he had to come back afterwards.
Starting point is 00:17:38 It seemed accidental. It seemed good nature, good-hearted, but the way it was perceived after you can hear it. That was one of those ones once he heard it. he probably wishes he could have it back. And I just, you know, but it happened, nonetheless. And then afterwards they're like, what would you think about a change of scenery? He goes, you know, that's probably a good idea.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Like, after the seat, he just, I think he just. That change of scenery should be his crib. I mean, it ain't happening. That change of scenery should be the vacating from the NFL altogether. I also think. Be a coach. Be a coach. I also think that he was in an impossible situation because he was always going to be
Starting point is 00:18:17 compared to Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert. That is always going to happen. He's made it to the playoffs just like those guys. Joe Burroughs made it to a Super Bowl. I get that. But I don't know what Joe Burroughs going to be moving forward. He was like in this weird space this past season.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And Justin Herbert always asses the bet when he gets to the playoffs. No, no, yeah. He's winning. Let me tell you something. Hey, I said 21 years today. bro. Hey. Jessica Alba and Madison Beer.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I got news for you, man. I got news for you. Business as a quarterback is good. Hey. Business is real good at quarterback. I'm just saying, man. Hey, if he's always going to be compared to them, get on my level, bro. Like, he got his money and he still seemingly, I don't know what, what two is, you know, vitals are on his, on his, his, his, his,
Starting point is 00:19:17 activation and operation of brain function but if you still like like save your brain man seriously and I'm not trying to like be on no joking type matter on this is a very serious thing it's funny because we make it a point
Starting point is 00:19:36 to focus in at least I've made it a point to focus in on the amount of concussions and head injuries he's had but it happens to probably other players more other positions more than the quarterback position. I just think that there's such a focal point on the position that when something like that happens, it hits a little different. You know, like, when you're watching a movie or cartoon or
Starting point is 00:19:59 TV show and then the TV show, like the main character is just busting off on people. Bow, shot that person, bow, shot that person. Like, you can watch them take down at least 10, 15 people, but let somebody cut them or let somebody like shoot them and they got to go. It's like, oh, it hits you different you're like desensitized to actually looking at the impact on others i always say you want to like have a cool show take one of the shows of where the hero is busting off on everybody to get to the mission and then the objective of the tv show and do a story on one of them people that he shot down he mowed down on his way to help and save somebody's life Anyway, the point I'm making is that we look at Tua and the amount of importance you place on his mental and head health is probably much higher because of the amount of attention and time that's been put on covering it and showing it.
Starting point is 00:21:05 It's almost like it's sensationalized to sit there and show the aftermath and the effects of when he's gotten hit and has sustained these concussions. Well, you know, we, from Tua to Tui for some breaking news. Who's from Fox Sports? Guys, you know what time it is, right? It's legal tampering. Yeah, I love to tamper legally. We got our first big signing, guys. Alec Pierce from the Colt is heading back to Indy.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Four years, $114 million deal. According to Schaefter and Rappaport, Ian Rappaport. A lot of people thought he could be going to, New England or potentially Washington, Vegas, Tennessee. That's interesting. You know what? I don't think Chris Ballard had it in. Let's not bury the lead here.
Starting point is 00:21:54 That's a win for us, Tooie. Yeah, we did it. Oh, man. Everyone out there wondering what Jonas Knox is talking about. Alec Pierce happens to be white. White. That guy's see-through. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:22:15 All right. Yeah, clean-cut, all-American-looking do from, you know. Up top, Tui. Told you we can do it. Play that Cincinnati is a beer cat. Good for him, man. And by the way, good player. Good size.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Good height to him. Good speed. Very good player. So, yeah, going back to Indy, there you go. One of the prizes of the off-season. Love me some legal tampering. Who's going to throw him the ball? Is it going to be Daniel Jones?
Starting point is 00:22:42 You got to figure that one out there. Oh, I don't know. Tui was campaigning for Jack Treas. Trudeau earlier for some reason. I don't know what that was about. He's got something left in that arm, I think. I mean, the Colts have run through a lot of quarterbacks over the past several years,
Starting point is 00:22:56 so who knows? So Ursa is making big moves and Indy to make sure she's building that team up the right way. You damn right. She's got enough information in her notes that she looked at it when she was in the office and said, you know what? Alec
Starting point is 00:23:12 Pierce, he fits the mold. He fits the criteria somebody that we need to keep here and give a nice contract. Let's give him that money. That's elite note taken. There it is. I don't understand why you have to dismiss that. See me on that sideline, taking them notes. By the way, be sure
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Starting point is 00:29:41 you get your podcasts. It's a herd on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Erington, Jonas Knox, in for Colin. We are going to maybe get into a little bit here about something that went way better than anybody expected in the world of sports over the weekend. But as we mentioned, it is the legal tampering period. The window is opened in the NFL. And it's time for some more breaking news from Tui. Who's from Fox Sports?
Starting point is 00:30:18 All right, great, Tewy. What do we got? This is a big one, guys. Kenneth Walker is joining the Kansas City Chiefs. All right. Big one. Big one. This kind of seemed inevitable after the Trump McDuffie trade, right?
Starting point is 00:30:29 Like they were going after a big fish. When's the last time they had a dependable running back that you could look at and go, that's the guy? Man. Priest Holmes? Dang. Larry Johnson came after priest Holmes. I mean, we are.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Well, hold on. Come on. Larry Johnson was a beast. Hold on now. They had what? Charles. I like Pacheco Yeah but
Starting point is 00:30:59 Just get hurt He gets hurt And look you had Clyde Edwards For a while Who was the way Hunt There was a two Two hit at monster
Starting point is 00:31:07 Hunting who Who was that Man There was two backs I don't know They've had some pretty good backs though I just I look at
Starting point is 00:31:18 But they haven't had a guy That you look at and go All right that's the lead back Like a Derek Henry And you look at what Kenneth Walker did late in the season. Zach Charbonnet goes down. And he was massive for them. And I was surprised they didn't put the franchise tag on him.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I was surprised they let him walk. But I think that's also an indication that they feel like, look, it's a tough call, tough decision. I appreciate everything he did. You know, he's got to walk at the height of his career, just won Super Bowl MVP. but we're just going to go take our chances and try and get cheaper at the running back position. Try and get cheaper. We'll go get cheap. That's the way it looks like. And we've talked about this before.
Starting point is 00:32:04 To think where the running back position was years ago, when it next to quarterback was the face of the league and to where it is now, to where a guy just won Super Bowl MVP and they're like, see you, we'll see you, thank you. We're not even giving you the tag. Go have a lot. I'm not even going to give you the tag. Go have a,
Starting point is 00:32:23 have fun, legal tampering window opens, and now Patrick Mahomes has got some help in the backfield that's going to be Kenneth Walker. Listen, it is some help. It certainly does help. Kenneth Walker is a fine football player and showed how fine of a player he was by being the best player in this year's Super Bowl. That was going to be a defensive heavy game. You were going to need your running game to be a part of it,
Starting point is 00:32:57 and Seattle's run game delivered and Kenneth Walker delivered. I guess I would ask the question. I guess if it improves your team, then there's nothing wrong with it. But I don't feel as though bringing Kenneth Walker in alleviates the pressure that you have mounting in terms of letting McDuffie go on the defense side of the ball. I'm curious to see what they do to shore up their defense, to make sure that their
Starting point is 00:33:35 defense is what it needs to be moving forward. And curious as to what do you do at the quarterback's position. Obviously, you're going to try to figure out how to run. the ball or get better at running the ball if you're KC because you don't know what the future holds for Patrick Mahomes right now in upcoming weeks and months and days of his career. So until you can get him back healthy, fully in the mix
Starting point is 00:34:07 and ready to go and confident in that leg and what he does, I would assume that you have to, one, have a quarterback that can stay. stand in there and help you be competitive until he gets back. But two, you want to have a running game that alleviates the stress and the pressure on the guy that you're putting in there and to that point to do it for Patrick Mahomes when he gets back as well. The Chiefs haven't had a thousand-yard rushers since 2017. I just looked it up.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I was like, man, you're all right. It's just not been. Kareem Hunt is probably the closest they got to like a guy that was kind of pushing to be the bail cow back for them. And clearly they've had plenty of success, so it's not like, well, that's going to really hold them back, you know, the Super Bowls, the dynasty, all that stuff. But I do think this is also, if you've got a quarterback like Mahomes, who's coming back from the injury, and they're optimistic that he's going to be there and ready to go, you know, to start the year and all that's fine. But worst case scenario, he's not there. They've got to start off the season, putting him
Starting point is 00:35:13 on the Pup list. Okay. Or he comes back. He is ready. for the start of the season, but it takes him some time to get used to the new normal, which is a surgically repaired leg. You're going to need some help. And if you've got a back there that you can depend on, look, I thought
Starting point is 00:35:32 they would have been one of the teams that would have taken a shot at Jeremiah Love in the draft with a top 10 pick and go running back in the draft. But the fact that they've made this move, and we've seen Andy Reid offenses in Philly,
Starting point is 00:35:48 when he's got a back that can catch the ball out of the backfield that's a love screams big time and so I look at that and I go that's where a guy like Kenneth Walker can step in and can be of help at a position of need that they've needed for quite a while and then they look at it and they go on defense it's not ideal that we lost Trent McDuffie
Starting point is 00:36:10 but you know we've got to make you they did the same thing with Legerius Sneed a couple of years ago and I think that's probably where they try and get better in the draft or who knows maybe we'll get a toy tampering update at some point on the show and the chiefs are going to attack the defensive side of the ball I think we
Starting point is 00:36:27 built Patrick Mahomes up to be this larger than life figure because he's accomplished so much that would be deserving of the things that are allotted his way, the reverence towards him the respect factor he's built up a lot of great will
Starting point is 00:36:43 not just goodwill but great will and so we talk about Patrick Mahomes as if he's this invincible figure. I think the first thing you got to take a look at is, one, he did go down to a serious leg injury. That's one. For two, this offense hasn't been what it's needed to be. And need I say, I mean, he's thrown for some good yards during the course of the season, having a 5,000 yard season not too long ago, what, 2022.
Starting point is 00:37:14 but when Eric B. Enemy left, and I'm not making this about Airbnb, but I'm saying in that moment in time when Eric B. Enemy left the team, that offense has seemed to not be the same since that departure took place. Whatever happened in that moment of time, the offense hasn't seemed to get back on track. I mean, and obviously you had the departure of, you had the departure of the Cheetah and Tyree Kidd. I know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I just, again, I don't, I don't, and it's interesting. We're going to bring, I believe we're going to bring TJ on today. I asked the fellas on, I asked them on up on game on Saturdays, by the way, 9 a.m. West Coast Town. I asked the fellas on Saturday, because I didn't want to feel like I'm going crazy here, because at times last week I did. Is this, is this the end of the road? like how should we be looking at this Kansas City Chief's team right now? Is the window closing? Well, you're,
Starting point is 00:38:21 you're, I think you were trying to say, and I don't want to put words in your mouth because I would never want to do that, but I think you were trying to say that the chief should fire Andy Reid and make Eric B. enemy the head coach. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm not saying.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Let's just run with that. That's exactly. What do you think the comments would be like there? We certainly would get, we would go viral. Can we? Let's fire that off. I'm not trying to.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I'm not trying to go do shock value to get views and listen. Just see how long we can keep a straight face for. But I am saying that sometimes we may lose track of the fact that Patrick Mahomes is a person. Yeah. He's not an alien. He's not this mythical figure. It's also, if we're going to be honest, man, you are correct. The offense has not looked like this high-powered, you know, Houston.
Starting point is 00:39:13 and Oilers run and shoot from back of the day. For years. Where you could bring in Cody Carlson and he throw for 5,000 yards. Like, we're not talking about that. The defense has been the more consistent side of the ball. And that's the thing, right? Like, the conversations have always been about, well, as long as you got Patrick Mahomes, well, as long as you got Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And the biggest moments of late, of recent, like, oh, well, they made it to the Super Bowl. their defenses of through the years the defense through the years has come up so big in the most pivotal moments and the most critical moments of their seasons
Starting point is 00:39:53 it has been the defense that has delivered and so that's why I led off with back to the original point bringing in Kenneth Walker is a great move for them because I believe he is a hard-nosed lunch pail type of guy
Starting point is 00:40:08 He's a normal type of guy, no diva connected to him in any type of way. He's a workhorse. That's great for what they're trying to do. If they're going to try to bang the ball, run the ball, establish the run, and be able to have that set up the pass with whatever their quarterback situation is going to be, that's a good move for them. But again, we mentioned Chris Jones getting aged. He's aging.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Carlophtas, dope, dope player, makes plays. Can this defense return to form? And actually, I don't even want to say bailout. They have won games for them. They have won championships for this team. Is this defense this year good enough to lead the way? And that's going to be the biggest question that has to be answered. If the offense comes back and they're,
Starting point is 00:41:06 able to be good, I would be surprised. I really would. It's going to be on the defense to make sure that they carry this team through the course of this upcoming season, and is this a defense that can do it? I'm a big believer in Spagg's. Spagnolla is a great, great coach in terms of being able to game plan and find the weaknesses in an offense, overload the line, bring blitzes from different positions and different places on the field where you thought they were coverage, but they end up coming in on a blitz. He overloads. He does a really, really great job.
Starting point is 00:41:42 But can he bring that to the table this year and probably, in my estimation, one of the most pivotal years for this Kansas City franchise? You're just looking for improvements from year and year out. I think that's every team's goal,
Starting point is 00:41:58 or at least publicly, that's what they say their goal is. And so if you're the Chiefs and you're coming off a six-win season last year, you just need to find five wins on the schedule because you already have two with the Raiders. So if you can just find five other on the schedule that you get to,
Starting point is 00:42:16 everything's going to be all right. Because you do have that buy week that resides right across the street from Mandalay Bay. So there is that. So it's not, you know, we'll keep you posted. And again, this is the Tuwey tracker.
Starting point is 00:42:32 The legal tampering window is open. Tongan Tuwee is here. to give us the updates throughout the course of this show. It is LeVar Erington. Amazing job, too, by the way. Great job. Lovar Erington, Jonas Knox. In for calling.
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Starting point is 00:43:02 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.
Starting point is 00:43:15 But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Starting point is 00:48:39 All right, this just came down. We told you last hour, or earlier this hour, that Alec Pierce was re-signing an indie. Well, guess what happened now? They're trading Michael Pittman to the Steelers, LeVar's Steelers. Sounds like a late-round pick swapswops. I'm sitting here looking at a picture of Carly Ursay right here, Carly Ercee Gordon, and I see her notes.
Starting point is 00:49:00 She's walking fine. What are you talking about? Yeah, so I'm glad that Michael Pilots. Junior is going to the Steelers. That is a tremendous addition to the team. Daddy. Are they trying to appease an Aaron Rogers
Starting point is 00:49:24 return here? Giving them another weapon potentially? It feels like it. It does feel like that would be a nice duo. I just couldn't understand why they let pickings go. You bring in D.K. If you have D.K. If they could coexist, that's nice. That's a great duo. It could be
Starting point is 00:49:42 best hand them developed in the league. Instead, you let them go. Well, I don't know that Pittman Jr. has an ego in this scenario in particular. No, no, I know what you're saying. But what I'm saying is, is can they coexist? Because one ego is more than enough. When one ego gets in the way, it still can have an impact on ego-less type of guys. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:05 It seems like a good signing, though. It could be a signal to Aaron Rogers to come on back and throw to these two guys. So when we talked about the Alec Pierce signing, there was a graphic that was posted on X from the NFL X account. You know, Colts wide receiver, Alec Pierce agrees to term on an extension with the Indianapolis Colts. Michael Pittman Jr. responds and goes, deserved, congrats AP. And then 15 minutes later gets traded to the Steelers. Yeah, because he probably already knew it.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Coldhearted world out here. Breaking news from Fox Sports. We got quarterback news. We got quarterback news. Packers Free Agent quarterback Malik Willis has agreed to a deal or will agree to a deal today with the Miami Dolphins. That makes sense. The Miami Connection.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Makes sense. The Miami Connection. Liberty. And you, I mean, you blew out Tua. Like, you now can answer the question why Tua was blown out and they didn't wait. So, yeah, you're right. So the... blew him right on out of here.
Starting point is 00:51:16 And also, you know, Jeff Hathley was in Miami. Is it John Eric Sullivan? Who's the GM for the Miami Dolphins? I believe it's John Eric Sullivan, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Malik Willis was in Miami Jeff Hathley was in Malik Willis was in Green Bay
Starting point is 00:51:47 Jeff Hathley was there Sullivan was there like the connection I get it I just Is that an upgrade though Tua for Malik Willis Is that really an upgrade?
Starting point is 00:51:58 I think it's a big question mark I mean But it's the perfect It's the perfect market For a Malik Willis to go somewhere And if he does great It works out great If it doesn't work out at all
Starting point is 00:52:08 It's like why did you bring Malik Willis here You just keep moving forward And I also wonder what's the structure of the contract? Because we've seen this before. Teddy Bridgewater signed a three-year deal with Carolina. It turned out it was a one year they got out of it after the first year. According to Ian Rappaport, it will be a three-year, $67.5 million deal, $45 million guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Yeah, and I wonder if... That's manageable. That's not a blockbuster contract whatsoever. Does he have six starts in his career? I think Malik Wilson has got six starts in his career. It's got to be under 10. There's just a lot of question marks going into this. And I know it's been made out for him to be a very, very high profile.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Six starts, John. Potential acquisition for this offseason. But we made the conversation point. Again, I'll continue to give Pete Priscoe a lot of credit. This has not been a very what you will be considering a super high profile free agency's market. So trades were going to have to come. And now we're seeing in this legal tampering period that the trades are flowing, which means that there was probably illegal tampering going on because of how quickly these
Starting point is 00:53:22 trades are firing off. I mean, I'm just saying, you didn't just call me today when a legal tampering period just went into effect. You just called me today and say, let's get a trade done. You got to assume that they were planning these things were being planned out. It's like breaking up and you're engaged 48 hours later. Oh, God. And that span of time, I found the one.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I don't even understand how you call it legal tampering. Like, just say you can talk. Like, why is it legal tampering? That just seems like a hockey morrow. Yeah, it is so. Belique Willis, the brand new quarterback for the Miami Dolphins, you know? Is that the only move at the quarterback's position? That doesn't scream starter.
Starting point is 00:54:04 That contract doesn't scream starter. I was kind of hoping for Quinn Ewers just getting out there slinging it around a little bit and see what we got. You're not that far out in the water with that. I mean, you think that's a significantly large? You're giving him $45 million guaranteed to not start? That's a lot of money to not start.
Starting point is 00:54:22 But the market, that's well below market value of a franchise guy. Well, maybe compete, right? I'll give you to compete, but I don't think that's backup money. I mean, it is the dolphins. We've seen their track record. Maybe they're giving them this contract so they can, too, you know, cut and then swallow more money for the
Starting point is 00:54:38 next year. Amen. I'm just saying, anything's on the table there in South Beach. I think you could get out of the way of it with that contract. Did she talk about Willis? I know. Just an opinion. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers.
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Starting point is 00:55:32 Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an Acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. People are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown if you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole. This podcast is for you to hear more.
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