The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - UConn defeats Duke in a wild finish, ABS in MLB gets an interesting reaction from the fans

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

Down goes Duke! Colin Cowherd reacts to the wild finish between UConn and Duke in the Elite Eight that saw the Huskies pull off an improbable comeback against the Blue Devils. He talks about how fans are reacting to the ABS Challenge System in MLB   Guest: Dusty MaySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Michigan, Thump, Tennessee went home and watched like the rest of you. Duke blow a huge lead and lose to a team that is always magical in March. wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Dusty May, the Michigan coach, is going to show up in 45 minutes from now. Duke is an academic powerhouse, but man, they played some dumb basketball. First of all, they jumped out to a huge lead. Terrace Reed for Yukon, an old school big, was essentially the entire Yukon offense in the first half.

It was Terris Reed against Duke. and he was holding the fort down, but Yukon couldn't hit shots. They shot 9%. 1 for 11 on 3s in the first half, and Cameron Boozer aggressively took it right to Yukon. 14 points in the first half. He was the best player along with Reed at Yukon on the floor. Yukon's great in March, but they looked overmatched.

They needed somebody else to help them offensively. Duke leads by 15 at half. And honestly, you're thinking if Yukon doesn't start with dynamically, the game is over. But Dan Hurley's teams, very good in the second half. They are physical. They wear you down. Fatigue sets in. You start making mistakes.

The boozer kids combined had seven in the second half. And that's where Dan Hurley's intensity comes through. John Shire is a great scheme coach and a great recruiter. In-game coaching could use some work. They got tentative. Duke got sloppy. They got tight. It jumped through the television.

Duke went from a dream wedding to America's funniest home videos. The bride's hair was on fire and the wedding cake got knocked over. And everybody was lost. You could see it on television. Duke looked lost and tired. And listen, great coaching is more than just drawn up plays in recruiting. It is when you've got a young team and Duke's players are five-star guys. There's a lot of one and done guys.

Where's the coaching in chaos? Call a time out. You don't have to get the ball over half court. Sit on it. I'm looking for coaching there. Again, Shire is a great recruiter, but you've got to call a time out. You've got to help the kid. So, because, I mean, let's be honest here.

It's not a seven-game series. Old NBA guys get a seven-game series. Not the way it works in college. It's a lot of 18-year-olds. And, you know, the great Chris Weber. We have great players making mistakes. Of course, they do their kids. So U-Conn's best players are older.

Dukes are younger. And that was very clear in the second half of that game. And here's the Duke coach after. More disappointed and feeling for our guys. at the same time of, you know, just trying to process what happened. I don't have the words. I don't have the words. It's easy to look at that play.

You know, I look at every play that happened, especially in that second half. This is not about one play. It's about every play to put us in that position. And that's what you don't want to do. What's interesting about Duke's last four losses, they led by 19, 13, 17, and 14. So I felt Duke was a really talented team.

But when you recruit these great five-star players, they need guidance. They need guidance in those spots. I mean, you've got some Yukon guys. They've been around through titles. They could have left last year. So Hurley, Duke, Yukon's an easier team to coach. You've got guys that know the system. They've been around.

I mean, they're passing on that final shot. These guys have been around a long time. The culture is set. you know Duke is still in that guidance stretch of their basketball career i feel terrible for duke but i'll be honest with you you were thinking what i was thinking shire is young would coach k's team have lost that game maybe it's maybe it's unfair but you kind of wonder because it feels like and this is all credit to yukon that is a great coach and a great program as a little part of that that felt like duke lost it as much as yukon won it okay so i went

I wanted to watch Michigan play. Michigan checks all the boxes. They've got old guys, young guys, the hottest coach in the market the last two years. They've got scores. They've got size. They've got the defensive player of the year. And I went and watched them in person and they do everything well. I mean, the one thing that's clear in college basketball these days, size is about 70% of it.

And you have to collapse on Mara and Landenberg, and therefore, they're wide-over open on the perimeter. They're shooting 45% in the tournament on threes. That's like NBA, high-end NBA shooting. And I don't think I've ever seen a college team in the half court set path like that. I mean, again, they buy into the culture. They hit the threes. And Mara is an interesting player. He's a seven three spaniard. He was at UCLA for two years. And when it was at UCLA, he wasn't a score. He was a big strong kid filling out his body. Now he can score and defend. So he's kind of an offensive hub. You can run the offense through him, drop it to him.

You double. He kicks it out. Landenburg, 6-9, 240 runs the court, can hit a three, but he's too big and strong. He's 23 years old. And remember a couple weeks ago when Bam out of Bayou scored 83 points? And I said, well, the team he played the Wizards had 19 and 20-year-old guys. They're just not strong enough to defend Bamadabai who's been in the league for 10 years. It's the same thing with Landonborg. He has been around a long time.

He can drive and finish. he can shoot. I mean, Mara, I just don't know, little Zach Eadie there. I don't know how you beat these guys. Arizona's next in Arizona. I mean, Michigan went on a 21-0 run against an excellent Tennessee team. That is insane. And Arizona doesn't shoot many threes. Now, they're not great at it. When they shoot them, they can hit them. But I don't know how you beat Michigan playing your standard game. Now, Arizona's got better guard play. Michigan's got better bigs. A lot of this is Dusty May.

I mean, they went to the portal. They found the hottest coach in the market. They've got size. They've got a defensive stopper. I guess you could attack their guards. But I'm telling you, when you watch Michigan play, you can see the NIL money. You can see the great coaching. Their half-court offense is aesthetically as pretty as a college basketball.

half court offense can be. They not only lead the tournament in assists, they lead it by a wide margin over Illinois, another excellent passing team, full of euros. So here is Dusty May after. If you're not mature and you're not connected as a group and you're not willing to be held accountable by the staff and each other, then it's not going to work. And once it creeps in, it's almost impossible to weed it out. And so our guys never let it in. Our guys have been up to the challenge to deliver in the biggest moments all year and nothing changed tonight. But just to be proud, we're all just very proud to be a part of this group. You know, J-Mack, when you go to a game, and I went with a friend,

and we sat upstairs, it was a corporate kind of sweet thing. And so it's like watching hockey from the back end, and you can watch the play develop. I'm telling you the way Michigan passes the ball and swings it around to the open guy, they are so incredibly unselfish. and there's just so many boxes they check. There's so many elements to the offense. I told you, I wanted to watch that Michigan, Illinois game late in the year, down in Champaign outside of Chicago, and Michigan thumped them.

And now you got Illinois in the final four. So, I mean, to shoot the percentage they're shooting on threes with dominant bigs, I, you know, this is the first time in forever. Both final four games are under a two-point spread. So people can criticize the NIL, but what it's done, it's fortified the big dogs where you can, you can recruit a five-star guy, then you can go get a Lannenberg, bring him in, and boy, I think Michigan's tough. Yeah, I think you nailed it. That's what Duke is missing, Colin. Michigan has the recipe. You need a mix of old guys, veterans who have 22, 23-year-olds, and young stars. Duke playing too many freshmen. I know the foster injury hurt. Yeah. He shoots 58% free throws.

He had a rough game because he was so great against St. John's. Yeah. I just, Colin, I had to wear a bright shirt today to pick up my energy. Because, you know, I was big on Duke. We had him in the Calcutta. I'm devastated. Colin, last year's lost to Houston. Remember that meltdown?

Yep. Again, young guys, Khan Knapple, Cooper Flag. Yep. Just melted down against old guys from Houston. And Sunday, I'm still in shock. I mean, my kids thought like, like, they were watching me. You know, usually I'm excited and stuff. Yeah.

I was in stunned. silence for like 30 seconds. I can't believe it. I could not believe it. Well, you know, it's, you con and Duke is, and that's the thing about the NIL, you got to be smart about it. So Connipple and a Cooper flag are great, but 18 is 18. You could watch Duke on television melting, and they just didn't have a 23 year old. And that's, and for the record, that is the magic of Michigan and the magic of Yukon, where you can get a four and five star guy, but you got Caraband who's been around the program forever.

You know, you go to a timeout. You got two coaches. You got Hurley, and then as you walk to the floor, you've got the guy that's been there for five years, he's putting his arm around the guys. He's like a secondary coach. So I just think their last play,

I felt so bad for Caden Boozer. It's like, you know, if he is a junior, he calls a time out or he doesn't. Well, He just- Listen, John Shire could have easily. They had two timeouts, Colin. Shire could have just, hey, give me a time. He's right next to the referee.

And two guys wide open down court. You just throw a grenade in the air. You don't need to, like, make a precise pass. Just chuck it. Connecticut had nobody on the other side of the court. It is one of the most mystifying end-game moments. I mean, Colin, I could not watch the replay for a few hours last night. I was just destitute.

I was like, how did this happen? I mean, it was unbelievable. You know, I'm sitting there. I was watching, there was a Cubs game on, in the suite I was in. I'm watching Michigan play Tennessee. And Michigan, obviously, you can drive from Ann Arbor to Chicago. So it was a heavily Michigan crowd watching Big Ten basketball. And then I'm Big Ten Basketball Powerhouse, Michigan.

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So the first thing is, you're not picking on umpires. They get over half right, and even when they miss, it's close. But the unintended benefit of this is that it's become like a game show with a reveal on a live studio audience. What's behind door number three on ABS? Survey says. So the fans are playing along. It also illustrates how great batters are.

Because to hit a 96-mile-an-hour splitter is one thing. But these batters are, they know millimeters around the plate. And again, the umpires get about half right and about half wrong. Now, one umpire, C.B. Buckner. He did not have a good, he did not have a good weekend. But here's an example of how it's playing out. It's the unintended benefit. There's often unintended consequences of new legislation or new business.

Here's the unintended benefit. Listen to the crowd during a Reds game. The batterer is Suarez. Listen to the crowd, play along, and watch how fast the reveal is. And we didn't have to do editing there. So, listen, baseball's always been strategic, but it was more like chess. It was plotting. Now it's like speed chess.

And I've said this for years. I know if you're retired and you've got nothing to do all day, you don't mind a three-and-a-half-hour game. Strategy and drama are better efficiently. Baseball is so much more watchable. And a lot of it's the pitch clock. and these kind of tweaks are just adding, you're not taken to any strategy you win. I think you're adding a dramatic game show feel to it.

And listen, there's so much money in sports now. You've got to get the call right. And I don't think it's picking on the umpires. I think half the time they're right, half the time they miss. And it's always by, I mean, that second one, that was a big miss, which felt pretty obvious for, you know, a viewer. But I think it's unbelievable. I, you know, because, you know, when Tennessee is getting beat by Michigan, you know, Tennessee fans are all the refs.

It's like Michigan would have beaten Tennessee 12 out of 12 times. It's not close. But in, you know, in baseball, you don't want the home plate umpire changing outcomes. And in baseball, it's so situational in the postseason that, you know, one at bat, one awful ball and strike call changes outcomes. So I just like how fast it is. It just works really quickly. The pitcher, the batterer or the catcher. You got to tap your helmet.

You got to go quick. I mean, baseball between the pitch clock and this has put a time on it. Like speed it up, guys. And everybody's like, oh, I don't know. Guys got habits. Yeah, get new ones. And they've worked. And it's great.

And J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Heard Line News. All right, let's start in the NBA. Jalen Brown sat out last night for the Celtics. He's missed a couple games, but it didn't matter. Boston got the dub anyway.

Their 50th of the season, Jason Tatum dropped 32. And Jalen Brown had some fun after the win over Charlotte saying 50 wins in a gap year. Obviously poking fun at everybody, including you and me. Nobody thought Boston would sniff 50 wins, Colin. Peyton Pritchard had 28 Boston 12 straight seasons going to the playoffs. Now, a lot of people are off Detroit right now because Kid Cunningham's hurt. Right. The Knicks, I don't really want to talk about them.

I hope they're not in the show. They are on the struggle bus. And then you've got like the Sixers getting healthy with Paul George's back from suspension. Is Boston like the default leader to come out of the east? Oh, I don't even think it's close. Atlanta Hawks? I mean, what are we doing? No, I mean, like Michigan basketball, they check the boxes.

They've got the coach. They've got now set culture. They've got two go-to guys who are now veterans. They've got one guy, Peyton Pritchard could come off the bench and be just a killer for them. They've got size. They were getting old. Between Porzingis and Horford, they had size, but they were getting old. Now they're younger with their bigs.

And Brad Stevens, they draft well. I think they're, you know, it's, you know, it's, I just don't think the Knicks are going to match up. Knicks haven't matched up all year with Detroit. Detroit's more physical. Nicks can be a little pretty at times, a little finesse. So I think Boston can play physical. They can play pretty.

They can play up-tempo. You know, they live on threes. And when they're hitting them, it's lights out. By the way, it seems like Joe Missoula is probably going to win coach of the year. I remember when your buddy Boston Bill came on the show and was calling him second row Joe and making fun of Joe Missoula not ready for. Joe Missoula has been amazing, Colin. I mean, he has just been incredible with this.

You have a right in life to learn on the job. I tell people this all the time, is that, you know, if you're not nervous when you take a job, then you didn't take a big enough swing. You should think I'm a little over my skis. Joe Mazula first year was learning on the job, but obviously Brad Stevens saw something in him. I mean, Brad Stevens is one of the smartest guys in the elite.

Do you think he'd hand the keys over to a dim guy who couldn't grow. Sometimes you're just not quite ready for the moment. You know, by the end of, by the beginning of year two, Joe Missoula had established himself. The players liked him. I think Boston's really good. Yeah, it's almost like a parallel there.

Is John Shire ready for the Duke job? Is he too young? He's kind of got bodied in a lot of close games, a lot of big leads blown by John Shire. All right, let's go to. the NFL with Josh Allen. Some news. Obviously, he battled through an injury last season, had the broken bone in his foot.

He had surgery to repair the bone this offseason. And Joe Brady says he's good to go. It will not hamper Josh Allen's status for OTAs. Now, Brady added that Alan could barely walk with the injury, but he was able to play through it. That doesn't really compute in my head. But this kind of is more fodder for. Listen, man, is that Buffalo window closed, Colin?

We know the AFC's going to be stacked next year. Well, you know, Cam, Big Ben aged very quickly because when you're as big as Josh is, you're going to hang in the pocket more. You're going to, you mean, let's be honest. Even in the NFL, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, guys like that, they're 6.5 and a half. They're 2.45. Corners and linebackers can struggle with them. So the downside to size is sometimes.

you feel you're kind of bulletproof? Well, this is what happens. You can only take so many hits. I mean, Big Ben aged fast. Cam over night aged. Cam took so many shots head on and didn't slide. So, I mean, my take on this stuff is, yeah, this is what we've talked about. You probably have three more. Three. A plus plus years by Josh. And then you're going to feel like it's a minus that he's not quite willing to just scramble. And by the way, he has probably six great years left. But I do wonder, you know, Dack Prescott aged really fast, lower body injuries, and Dax big.

And he doesn't move like he used to. We've seen Lamar breakdown. Patrick Mahomes coming off a major injury. Allen has been, you know, I don't know how many games he's missed over the last five. It's not many, maybe zero. but essentially he's hitting that 30 wall and Colin he's taking a lot of hits over the years remember late in the season they just turn on

hey Josh Allen runs 12 times a game because we need wins I don't know man I listen it's March I'm not going to bury the Buffalo Bills but file it away for the off season final story Collins go to the Philadelphia Eagles Howie Roseman lot of rumors about A.J. Brown well how he met the media

and said I understand Dan, that there's a lot of interest in the AJ Brown story. I unfortunately don't have a home under a rock, whatever that means. But my answer to any question on AJ Brown is A.J. Brown is a member of the Philadelphia Eagles, which to me is not a total, I'm not trading him. And remember that June 1 date is coming up rapidly. Yeah, I've been wrong on this. I think that's what you say.

So you never appear desperate. it. So if somebody calls for him, you're like, we love him. We think he's great. First rounder, two first rounders. If you start showing signs of distrust or unhappiness, well, then you give away leverage and negotiation. I've been saying it for two years. This is a run first team. I think AJ with the right quarterback. I mean, look at Devonte Adams with Matt Stafford. How many touchdowns that he have last year? Like, it's just, I mean, I don't think it's a good fit, but, you know, they keep winning the division. Well, I mean, Devante Adams is a model soldier.

He's a professional athlete. A.J. Brown is a professional instigator. I mean, he's reading books on the sideline. So people can talk about him, Con. Come on. Yeah. He seems to get into it often. We'll see. I think he gets shipped. But. J. Mack with the news.

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. So there was Dusty-May Michigan coach joining us in 10 minutes, 12 minutes. Dan Hurley, great coach, Yukon. how to tweet yesterday. Basketball Capital of the World Stores, Connecticut, and his screaming and his intensity, you know, gets, it gets a lot of play. For the record, he mostly screams at officials. Very rarely does he scream at his kids. But here's the thing about sports. Successful people,

especially in sports, they're intense. Brady and MJ and Peyton and Peyton and Mike Brable and Colby. They're first in the building guys. I mean, they're first in the building guys. And Dan Hurley, he goes after officials and I you know listen man Lose Fair may be great for substitute teachers and babysitters but you get into pro sports and college sports at the highest

level you know capitalism you need urgency and you need intensity and I mean anybody see the video this weekend of Mike Vrable New England Patriot head coach former NFL guy working out a potential first round offensive tackle and Mike Vrable is literally

sizing him up and you know I mean, it's hand-to-hand combat. So playing and coaching at the highest levels, there's Mike, it's just not for everybody. It's not for the meek and the passive. And so all the fruit gets bruised in major college sports and in pro sports. And I mean, is anybody surprised that a coach known for his intensity, Dan Hurley, is the coach of a team that comes back.

from a 15-point deficit to maybe the best college basketball program. Duke. Is anybody surprised that it's that team? It's that kind of personality. That fight to the end, back alley, he coaches it, players feed off it. And you're going to find a lot of times with these coaches that are intense, their teams have a certain grit and toughness. And, I mean, that's what makes Michigan good, is they can play pretty and they can play

physical. Duke is young and it's pretty. But in that second half, I mean, they were Duke was against the ropes. Duke was taken way too many shots and passive just does not build powerhouses.

Here's Hurley on his coaching style and the comeback. We run a very intense program. You know, we're on these guys. We put them, we stress them in practice. We we put a lot of pressure on them on a daily basis to do the right things, to stay in a game

like that where you're getting outplayed, you're having a really bad shooting night at the absolute worst time. But what kicks in at that point is just a bunch of strong men, a strong team players that let their coaches coach them hard and prepare them for tough moments. You know what really jumped out to me watching this on TV? is that in the first half, Hurley wasn't barking at his players. They couldn't hit shots. They were getting looks. They couldn't hit him.

And Hurley, he wasn't passive. He was almost pensive. He was just kind of looking at it thinking, if we get a couple of these to drop, I got older players. They got younger players. We got to put the heat on them. And then you saw Duke start to make really bad turnovers. I mean, the Boozer kids are smart kids.

Great dad, NBA dad, but they had seven turnovers. and Shire's young. So Hurley has been through so many battles. This Yukon program is just, you know, there are certain things. We talk about this in the NFL that play. Like the Miami Dolphins, when they had Jalen Waddell and Tyreek Hill and Tua, they look great in great weather. You put them in cold weather, they're not built for January in the AFC. What Duke does, the Duke is pretty and they're efficient.

and they're talented and they're young. And that can kind of blow you away in the first half. I mean, you can prepare for Duke and they are so skilled and so talented. And they've got depth. But what really plays in college basketball is what plays in the NFL when the weather gets bad. And it's tough and physical because you're playing these games without a lot of prep time. And it really felt to me like Duke fatigue set in. you know the old saying fatigue makes cowards of us all like duke looked like beaten down tired and and

it's amazing how often yukon has a second and third gear in the later stages of these games like like i i honestly thought at halftime i'm like this game's got about five minutes if duke if yukon doesn't start chipping away on this thing uh it's over fast and you could just see Hurley in the toughness and the culture. You know, there's studies shown that tough coaching and tough parents, it's built to help you later in life with adversity. And I mean, a lot of these Yukon guys could transfer. They could leave and they don't.

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I went and watched them, and I said that half-court offense, they passed like an NBA team. I mean, not everybody on an NBA team is a great passer, but you've always got a collection the guys who were slick. And I think Michigan figured it out. The NIL is, you got to do a mix. Yukon and Michigan feel the same way to me. You got some youth, you got old guys, you got size, you got the hottest coach on the market. Dusty May is 62 and 13 the last two years.

The most impressive thing, let's bring him on. Dusty May, Michigan basketball coach joining us live. Dusty, I'll tell you, the most impressive stat for your team is that you lead the tournament in assists by a mile. And as a coach, I was watching you, was sitting next to a Sparty fan who was begrudgingly admitting, he was going, yeah, they really know what they're doing.

They're really good. The passing. Just most college teams don't distribute like yours. Take me inside that. Well, first of all, Colin, I appreciate you having me on, and you're a better man than me if you can sit and watch a game with a Spartan fan. I think as all coaches, we value,

certain things more than others. There's only so much you can work on every day. And we begin every single practice with a passing drill. We sell it in recruiting. And we tell guys that if you don't want to share the ball and make the right play, then you shouldn't come here because we're going to be stubborn with that being a part, being part of our DNA. And if there's a second defender on you, you must pass it. Or that's one of the few times that you're going to get, it caused me to raise my voice. Yeah. You know, it's funny. You were a student manager. under the late Bobby Knight, and you don't raise your voice much. And, you know, you have a chance. There's some guys left in the tournament like Dan Hurley that does, but I think it's very effective.

Everybody's got a different style. It's interesting. Adai Mara, when he was at UCLA, good defensive player, great size, 7-3 Spaniard, not much of an offensive threat. What has happened to his game? Because I think he's a great passer. He's become a bit of an offensive weapon for you, and I didn't see that. What transpired? Well, stylistically, each player, I think, when you look at the NCAA tournament, Jaden Bradley's a great example. He played at Alabama, which they rarely shoot mid-range jumpers, and he didn't look like he's nearly as good as he does now for Arizona. They value the elbow pull-ups, the mid-range jumpers. So he excels because of the style of play and obviously just being older and better.

And I think it dies the same way. We run a very European-style offense. where the passing, the spacing is paramount to our success. And we don't hard hedge ball screens, so we don't have him out towards half court away from the basket. We try to keep him at the rim as much as possible. So a lot of what we've done is design our defense around his skill set. And offensively, we just try to take what the defense gives us, and we have so many weapons offensively that when he has the right matchup

or we have the right style of play, he's impressive to watch. Because he sees the game and then obviously being able to play over the top. of it is a genetic gift. You know, you do something that I like, and not all college coaches are comfortable with it, you are, is that you let your team express themselves. You can be classy, but basketball is a swagger sport. Okay. When you're feeling it, you know, your body takes over.

And some of your guys, you have a personality, and you allow your team to have a personality. is that a fine line for you that, you know, you never want to show up an opponent, but you guys go on 21-0-0 runs. I mean, you physically beat people up. Where are you as a coach letting guys be creative and expressive, but not taunting? Because I think that can be a tough line for a coach. Well, our guys at FAU had so much edge column that they would talk trash to the other team, the other coaches.

And finally, after trying to convince them to stop, I just gave into it. it and thought this is what makes them them as long as they don't cross the line they play better uh it causes them to play with more edge and and so i learned to just go with it and even with our guys we have a couple of psycho competitors in practice we just tell them just don't go too far just look take it all the way to the point of of there where there is no return and don't go past that and so it's the same thing in the game you can get into a physical altercation or a jump ball when you're fighting for the ball but you can't do something that's going to hurt our team because of a lack of impulse control.

So we try to talk about those things. I mean, it's an edgy sport. And as you said, I don't raise my voice. We have a Paramount Plus documentary coming out soon. And I feel like every one of the clips are me being a raging lunatic. And I said, this is going to completely ruin my public image. Can we edit some of this out? But no, we want our guys to be the best versions of themselves.

We want them to be their authentic selves while also making sure that they don't distract us from what we need to be doing. So Arizona can be terrifying. Their guard play, listen, that's five-star guys. That buries, that young guard, you're like, wow, he's gotten good fast.

I mean, when you watch Arizona, what's your reaction? If I was at a camera on you watching Arizona film, what terrifies you? What worries you? Well, I was just watching them as we got on here, Colin, and they do a number of things to terrify you. Like us, they have so many weapons. We could start rattle off Coa Pete and Burrys and Jaden Bradley, and we haven't even mentioned crevish yet.

Karsnikov, you haven't even mentioned these guys that are going to play in the NBA, and that's very similar to the way other opposing coaches talk about our team. So the baseline is the talent, but now they play incredibly hard with great physicality. They share the ball. they do it. Each guy does what he does well consistently. So the way I look at it, there's stylistically some differences, but we're almost like mirror images of each other. Yeah. You know, you actually, Yen Nadenberg could have gone to the pros. I, a couple weeks ago, a guy in the NBA named Bam out of Bayou scored 83 points. And everybody's like, oh, it's brutal. That's bad sportsmanship. And my take is I went and looked at the team he scored 83 on. It was the Wizards. And they had a 19-year-old starter, a 20, a 20, a 20, a 21. I said, guys, Bam out of Bayou's been in an NBA wait room for a decade. He's playing high schoolers. These guys don't, you physically don't match up.

When I watch Yaxel, my take is he is strong. I mean, it's 6-9, 240, he can hit a three. He's a match-up problem for college kids. I don't know how it projects to the NBA. But when's the first time you got to look at him? Is he better than you thought, or is he what you thought he would be at Michigan? No, he's better than we thought. His improvement's been extremely gradual as far as his skill set and confidence in himself.

I'll give you a quick, funny story on Yaxel. One of our players, L.J. Kaysen's youth coach was up this summer, and he watched an open gym, and he walked up to my office and, quote, unquote, he said, that man's in the wrong league. And meaning he should be playing in the NBA. So there's a lot of times during the game, he'll make a play, and one of the assistant coaches will say he's in the wrong league during live play. Yeah, no, it's pretty obvious. There is a swagger and just an IQ to your style of play.

It's really, really, I love watching his highlights. You are a fun team to watch. Dusty May, you know, listen, sometimes, you know, I didn't mean to go to a game with a Spartan, but I do like Tom is also, sometimes it happens. You know, I'm in Big Ten country. You can't control everything, Dusty. Congrats. Good luck with Arizona.

I would say, is it the best team you've ever faced, talent, wise in your college career you know when i was a citizen of florida we play jason taitam and those do those guys from duke um we face some some teams like that but they're as good as i can remember in recent memory it's it's going to be a great challenge but um our guys have been able to elevate their play when the stakes have been their highest so uh we're excited to go to indianapolis and see what we can do good seeing you coach thanks colin i appreciate it you bet dusty may coach of Michigan, they are just, you know, you got to go to game sometimes and just see how it plays out. And when you watch them in person, they are chest out, big confidence, really like each other.

And, you know, this NIL, it's very instructive, like how Yukon's done it. You know, Duke, because their brand is so big, they've got five star guys everywhere, but they're young. Arizona can be young in points. But you look at Yukon and Michigan, and you get a lot of. a little old, you get some physicality. I mean, Michigan's got two or three guys on that team that passed at an NBA level. And that is just, you know, it's so funny about the NIL. You know, the downside of, I guess the downside to the tournament, the NIL is

Cinderella stayed home. She Netflixed and chilled. Cinderella didn't show up. Iowa beating Florida is an upset. But the upside of the NIL is, I mean, we got four. four teams left and the spreads on the game are like a point to a point and a half. You never get that. There's always one that feels like, you know, the conclusion's pretty obvious.

So what you have is you have great coaching and then you combine all the big brands who always get four and five star guy. And then you bring in a great player from, you know, a mid-major who's a dominant player at that level and they get better. And it's just the question. at the top of college. I remember this. I can remember we're not that far removed.

How many years ago was it when Duke beat Butler in the championship and the team shot 39% and had zero fast break points? It was unwatchable. And then the next year, Yukon beat Butler and shot 31% combined from three. So the game 15 years ago is any good player was one and done. If a guy stayed for three years, he wasn't an NBA guy. It was missing open jumpers. You didn't get the transition beauty and the passing. You watch Michigan, they pass like an NBA team.

You watch the guard play for Arizona. It's like these are all, all lottery pick NBA level guys. So the NIL has, it's like been jet fuel for the top 12 to 15. programs and everybody says, oh, what about the Cinderella? That stuff was a lot of mythology. Take out Brad Stevens, one guy. How many underdog stories we're doing? I mean, it's always been about the number one seeds.

The difference is you get that one first round upset or two and people go crazy about it. We had an upset. Iowa beat Florida. It doesn't have to be like Iowa Tech beat Florida. It can Iowa was an under. Iowa doesn't spend a lot of money on NIL. And well coached, play their butt off. So just fantastic.

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